D-28 Showcase - Custom Shop Aged (Indian) vs Authentic 1937 (Madagascar) vs Vintage 1938 (Brazilian)
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- Last week we showed a very impressive new Martin… the D-28 Custom Shop Authentic "Stage 1" Aged with Indian rosewood. BUT, how do you think it compares to the D-28 Authentic 1937 (Madagascar Rosewood)? and even further to an actual D-28 from 1938!!
Blindfold yourself at the end and see which one sounds best to your ears! Let us know in the comments and thanks for watching.
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The 1938 simply sounds somehow more mature, a class of its own - awesome guitar and sound!
I was surprised that the difference between the 1937 Authentic and the custom was bigger and more audible than I had thought. The Authentic clearly wins in my ears.
This 'Authentic 1937' has a top with VTS (which Paul translated into 'aged') whereas the 'Custom Authentic Aged' hasn't got the VTS (it's the finish alone that gives it its 'Aged' in the model's name - as shown in its dedicated own video -)...I found this pretty confusing ; it's not Indian RW vs Madagascar RW we are comparing here, but IRW, vs MRW-with-VTS-top...
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The aged 1937 has the most bass, the custom is nicely balanced, but the original 38 has that special tone. Listen to how articulate it is in the last recording at the end. You can’t get that special type of tone in a new build alone, it takes 80 years to sound like that. I agree with Paul, imagine what the other two will sound like in 80 years! Wow! Thanks for the demo guys, this is why I love this channel.
agreed and Im no vintage snob...but wow so open ...just special
You said it best.
If you want bass and dynamics. Get the 2020. Its the true top thickness n non adjustable truss rod. Very full. The thinner top is better for flat picking
I feel like the actual old one (1938) has the most bass. The aged newer on is a little higher on the bass. It also sounds slightly out of tune on the double notes. The Brazilian really sounds a little nicer in the high reverberant overtones when ringing. They are all resonant beasts though. Dream guitars!
Wow...that 38' took it to another level. Heard an improvement with the Madagascar. Then the 38 was like hold my beer! Mid/highs got a huge boost and had sparkle. Amazing instrument!!
Great job Quinton and Paul! Martin’s D28 series guitars project a magical blend of balance and tone that grabs the listener’s ear like no other. Thanks too for going the extra mile to seek out Custom Aged, Authentic and Vintage instruments to demonstrate a unique D28 perspective. You’re the best!
The bass of 1938 D28 is bombing my heart !
Nicely done … as usual
The 1938 was in its own class: depth AND brightness. I thought the two modern guitars sounded excellent and very similar to each other.
Great sound, love the D-28. Cheers
All 3 are cannons..all 3 sound great...The low end on the pre-war is a cut above IMHO👍
If I close my eyes in the end I could hardly distinguish when he switches guitars 😳
I have a 1980 D-28 and it's in like new condition with the original case and still have the key to the lock,It's one of the best Martin guitars I've ever owned ,I have seven high end Taylors and this my Martin plays as easy as the Taylors do.I love guitars and would never part with any of them.Ive owned many Martin guitars twelve at one time and this 1980 is the only Martin I need .
Some massive sounds coming out of those, and that 1938, oooooh!!!!
Apparently Quinton wants to play them more. With headphones, there's a definite great tone in the 1938, followed by the 1937 Authentic VTS and then the D-28 with adjustable truss rod. The last may have a different neck profile. Great demo. Thanks Paul and Quinton.
Yeah idk disagree. Id take that Indian over the Madi
I am amazed at how Martin has made these newer guitars sound today...25 years from now...OMG
The 38 seems to have more clarity , rings like a bell , more headroom , just seems to be able to be driven harder , but I’d be happy with either of those monsters
The original boom boxes! 😳 Wow!
D28 heaven. There is no doubt in my mind. The first one Q played, the Custom has that extra dimension in the bass, middle and treble which makes it a very special dreadnaught.
And it's Indian rosewood folks! That'll reassure a lot of us.
The 37 with the madi rosewood has more mids and the high overtones blend beautifully. I have one and it’s the same way. The worn in top on the 38 is bouncing more but that ambiance in the low end is the Brazilian reverberating overtones you hear that blend the notes nicely. Figured the Indian rosewood should’ve been brighter on the high end with an unbaked adi top but you can tell it’s going to be a huge strummer on the low money maker chords. I want all three. They would each lend themselves to unique inspiration. I think the same bracing pattern, bracing materials, glue, and the same careful handcrafted attention to detail seem to make all three less of a variation than say, 3 new standard production d-28’s straight of the line. These three guitars are worlds apart in timber, torrifaction, and age but they are extremely similar.
They all sound great. Do they all have the same kind of strings?
The 38 is like releasing the Kraken on the bass, but it brings the highs with it. It makes me feel good. The Authentic is louder and has almost as much bass. The Custom is better balanced than the Authentic, but just can’t touch the 38. I wish I was younger so I could hear what my HD-28 V and OM-18 Authentic will sound like in 50 years!
Well they all sound great. The big thing is how they respond to the user. What were the nuances that Quinton found that he preferred? I am talking about ease of fretting. Tactile feel to pull the notes out etc. after listening a little more…that ‘38 is amazing. The other newer ones sound great. But the ‘38 has that extra 5%
They all sounded very good.
38 was #1 for me
That authentic with the Madigascar wasn't far behind! Pretty impressive in my monitors.
The custom shop one that was the cheaper version of the authentic was 3rd in this one. I had one of those, but sold it off just because the sound wasn't fully my cup of tea. Got into an aged one and pretty happy with it.
Nice! I had a 37’ authentic. Beast of a guitar!!
Hi...Why didn't you keep it...?
@@gregorycarpenter It was the most sweet "sounding" guitar i've ever owned. I was a little concerned about the non adjustable truss rod, and the size of the guitar was becoming an issue due to a shoulder injury. I ended up buying a custom shop 0000-18 sinker. The 0000 is the best of both worlds for me right now. I will buy one of the authentics again in the future once the shoulder is no longer an issue.....and i can afford to have both....lol
@@lcvol73 I see...Keep on pluckin...! Thanks....
Great video. Congratulations. Automatic is the winner for me, specially for the price difference
They All Sound Amazing , In Their Own Way! I Have the Takamine Copy🎼💛😊
Three monster guitars and I love monsters.
I have a 2013 D28 authentic 1941 and I bet it belonged to the guy on the left at one point. Bought it online from Villa Music, a wonderful shop. It was featured on Acoustic Letter on youtube some years back. Terrific guitar.
Our store name is Music Villa.... Acoustic Letter is the name of our CZcams channel.
@@musicvilladotcom I thought that's what I said. Called you Villa Music, my bad. You folks totally rock, a great store. Big thanks for the D28.
@@BlindTom61 Sorry if my response sounded snarky. Now that I read it, it might have come across that way. That certainly wasn't my intention. Thank you for your business. It is very much appreciated!
@@musicvilladotcom It's all good
You have a great shop. Thanks.
Wow that ‘38.
The mids on that 1938 are strong and it seems quite a bit louder than the others.
What gauge strings guys???? fabulous as always!!!!
Mediums on all.... thanks!
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Love my DRS2 first edition
The difference that I hear between the D-28 CSAA and the D-28 AA, is like the difference between my 2002 D-18 GE and my D-18 Authentic 1939 Aged (39AA). The D-28 CSAA has a brighter Midrange and Highs. The D-28 AA has more Bass and lower Midrange. And that 1938 D-28 is just something else altogether. Paul must have a really good friend that let him borrow that 1938 for the video. I bought my 39AA at Music Villa, and I love the sound of that one more each day.
I don't think the difference is as big as a GE to an authentic just my opinion
Madagascar sounded closest to my heart :)
In a blind listen, basing it on balance and clarity, I would chose the Indian RW. If the '38 had new strings, the highs would have emerged.
they're all really great. and probably too valuable to take out to a bar.
They are pricey, but the whole point of the D-28 CSAA is to have a nice guitar that you could gig with and not have to worry with quite as much.
@@ericecklund676 when a guitar is $8K, it's a prized possession
@@martinkleinman2522It's not 8k
Have to ask; AGED: are you referring to VTS treatment or just the stain applied to the top of the guitar? Thank you.
Aged usually refers to the relic / stress level , in that at the factory they Pre age it by adding scores dings dents etc, but I think there is a bit of confusion going on here , I’m sure the madi has vts
Martin is calling the aging process of the top vts i think.
@@Ks-zz9lhNo it's not. Not on the Indian one. That's an aged finish. Its thinner than their already thin authentic finish, and harder. It's a completely different formula. And has finish checking all over the top
It doesn't use VTS on the top, thank God. I'm not a VTS fan. The Madagascar one has VTS.
@@TT-wz6xyThey don't add dents etc. Not on these guys. They're very lightly aged. The aging on these is just a thin, hard different finish, and that they add finish checking too.
It's a different formula. And very thin and hard. They also add some coloring to the pins, saddle and nut, but thats it. No dings and wear spots etc. Basically looks like a vintage guitar that was taken care of in a case. Really classy job and more importantly it actually changes the tone because oc the very thin hard finish
The Madi definitely has VTS. The one I'm talking about, that he also played, the d28 custom authentic 1937 aged, does not have VTS
Herringbone is the spine of the herring fish. It was literally originally herring bone! Crazy
yeah that 1938 sounds incredible
You guys got snow?!?!
The aged Indian Rosewood, by far, sounds the best. It's so rich across the full range. I actually think the 2 new guitars sound better than the 1938 Brazilian. They're certainly louder and much more bloomed and full.
This guy gets it
@@el34glo59 into the garbage can with the Indian
@@el34glo59I agree, I wouldn’t pay 140k for the 1938 it kinda sounds tubby in a way; I love my Authentic 1941 that rings
Which parlor guitar for less than 1k has the biggest, quality sound?
Thank you Montana boys!!!
Do any of those guitars have scalloped bracing?
Yes, they are all scalloped.
@@musicvilladotcom do you know if this was a process done at manufacture stage or after?
Reason I ask is I have a 2005 D28 and wondered if it could be scalloped as at the moment it is straight braced
@@seaniliffe yes u can have any guitar modified
The Brazilian rosewood really pops compared to the others. I’m guessing the age makes all the difference.
Dare I say it, the 1938 has a little bit of a Gibson flavour 😯
The 1938 was so loud I had to turn my headphones down. Wow!
The customshop sounds the most balanced, great guitar and happely not VTS..
Where did the actual 1938 come from? Does Paul own it? Or a collector or something?
Sorry. I was so curious I commented before the end of the video. Thanks so much for letting us hear this beautiful instrument. Is it possible to buy one nowadays? And what price range would they be? How many tens of thousands lol..
@@background4242 An all original 1938 D-28 would be somewhere above $150,000.
Give me the Indian rosewood aged, especially if going new. I'm not a Madagascar guy. Sounded absolutely amazing. So rich and full across the entire range. People would be all over Indian if it was rare. Madagascar doesn't sound like Brazilian imo. I tnink that Indian sounded more like tye Brazilian. I also hate VTS
strangely the 38 was by far the best...
Aqui no Brasil são muito caros os instrumentos vindos do USA .Lamentável...😪😪😪
I wish I knew if the ‘38 sounded better because of A: age, B: scalloped bracing, or C: the brazilian-ness of the rosewood. Something tells me it’s B and A, in that order.
It’s in in tune. It’s the wood! And the aging. That’s what I think. The 1937 AA seems slightly out of tune on one of the high strings.
I’m really impressed with the authentic. I’m just sad they have such thin necks. I’m lucky to have a 2006 D18A and it has the perfect neck on it. But it’s at least a tenth of an inch thinner than is comfortable.
I'm surprised they didn't change the shoulder shape to be exactly correct on these. Still using the modern jig that meets the 14th fret at a slight angle vs the original square shoulder. Also in my opinion that orange aging toner looks off. Let the lacquer and the adi age naturally if you want it to resemble an original.
In 1938 they had that same shape as you can see.. in 1931 hrs they had that 12th fret shape you’re talking about I call it a longer look to it
I recently purchased a sinker mahogany dread and i must say, its the closest thing to Brazilian ive found and in my opinion sounds better. All these guitars sound amazing.
Was the 38 rear braced?
Good question. They moved the X further from the soundhole in late '38.
The '38 is forward braced.
Ive started to notice. That hide glue isnt a glue that lasts forever. It not only gives but it decays fairly quickly compared to other glues. Making it easy to work on but difficult to keep a guitar sounding the same. And it goes into other variables that impact the decay of the glue. But. Here. The brazilian guitar sounds dead. It needs the glue redone in various locations. It shouldnt be so concerned about a hide glue guitar having been reglued. As long as everything else remains the same. A proper luthier will make an older guitar sound better and better.
The 1938 hands down is the best out of the 3 without a doubt.
There’s a discernible difference in tone between the Madagascar and the Indian rosewood guitars, but I wonder how much of the difference is attributable to one (or both) of these variables that weren’t mentioned: (1) that the Madagascar guitar is probably more broken in after a few years of being played, whereas the Indian guitar is likely brand new; and (2) the Madagascar guitar has the stiffer neck with the T bar neck. I think either or both of those might make a difference.
Madagascar has VTS. Honestly I liked the Indian more
@@el34glo59I own a 2013 D-28 authentic 1941. Non-VTS much more valuable it is aging like the real one in 1954 would’ve since that VTS is not on mine! It’s a cannon!
Too much snow is not a problem. We're in our 12th year of drought. Trade ya.
where???
@@sooparticular California.
@@guitarlusteuphoria4507 greetings from nyc...no droughts here...just the stupidest people on the planet:)
@@sooparticular No, that title, stupidest people on the planet goes to Florida.
@@guitarlusteuphoria4507 TRUST ME THEY ARE ENLIGHTENED...AT LEAST WHENEVER I VISIT MIAMI TEY ARE WORLDS AHEAD OF THE SHEEPLE HERE IN NYC...I always joke..Ive never been to Florida lol Ive been to Miami 13 times however:)) haha
Why would anyone want a guitar without an adjustable truss rod?
The new custom expert is basically a d28 marquis right? All sound fantastic but again martin making choices so hard to find the right guitar and they put a 6k price tag on the expert and NO VTS AGED BAKED TORRIFIED top. Such a shame as the new experts have it all almost. Aged top and I'd be signing up for the expert.
The Custom D-28 has more advanced "Authentic" bracing. The Marquis has "Golden Era" bracing.
Yes I forgot all about the golden era series so I should've known . All amazing guitars. I do love the the shaded tops in this new line ✌.
They're completely different guitars.
They're using hide glue. Authentic bracing, which is lighter and hand scalloped and sanded. Plus a thin sanded adirondack Top. Martin is literally picking the correct density and stiffness before using them for these because they sand them down thinner to 110.
Those two things alone are a big difference, yet that's not close to all of it.
Plus tucked bracing and a smaller bridge plate. Plus a super thin hard finish. Completely different formula. Low wide authentic back bracing too, which makes a difference in sound also. Not as stiff. You hear the back wood more. Which is top of the line Indian rosewood.
They are extremely different guitars to say the least. Authentic barrel and heel. Authentic neck block. Thicker neck etc
I'm ecstatic that the top isn't VTS. I can't stand VTS. These guys are some of the best Martins made and have the perfect combination of features. Anyone complaining at this price point, well gl finding something that compares.
Martins from the 30s didn't have VTS tops. So this is like going back in time and buying a prewar 30s Martin when it came out, but with a truss rod. Which is what I want. I want it to age naturally.
I also think Indian, when braced correctly, which these are, is closer to Brazilian than Madagascar. I don't think Madagascar sounds like Brazilian. But hey its rare so it's gotta be better right... There's a reason Martin switched to Indian at the end od the 60s. They could have used any rosewood they wanted back then
Love how people complain and don't even know what they're talking about first. Do your research guys
You can also get these for well under 6k new if you go to the right dealers
Painful how great the different is.. yikes.
Both of these are guys are too busy talking over each other takes away from the experience. One guy needs to talk and the other need to shut up and just play.
I like them in this order: 1938 Brazilian, Authentic 1937, D-28 Costume. But The 1938 beats them all, really beautiful.
I am so glad to get the chance to listen to all the special guitars, Paul you call people of a range to borrow guitars it is just outstanding.
Then Quinton Play the guitar effortless like a grand master and so beautiful thank you to both of you from my heart.
Love the 1937 but the no trust rod thing scares me for that price. 😂😂