Indian VS Brazilian Rosewood | Can You Tell The Difference? BLIND Preston Thompson Comparison

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
  • Jeremy & John Chapman compare a brand new Preston Thompson D-BA with a Thompson D-EIA! The test today will be to determine if you can tell the difference between Brazilian Rosewood vs Indian Rosewood. Is Brazilian worth the upgrade?
    Check out a full review of the Thompson D-BA here: • The BEST Thompson To E...
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    00:00 - Intro
    01:29 - The Specs
    07:16 - Shootout
    08:38 - Conclusion
    15:20 - The Reveal
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  • @dennissiler6672
    @dennissiler6672 Před 7 měsíci +12

    As a luthier, I can tell you there is another, perhaps more subtile, effect that comes into play with a Brazilian rosewood build. When building an instrument with this exceedingly rare and expensive material, it is almost inevitible that the builder will take more care and pay more attention to detail when crafting an instrument whose raw materials are worth well more than $1000 before the project even begins. Part of that effect is likely due to price point, but there are other factors as well, such as rarity and even the lore of this wood in itself. Some builders will never even have the opportunity to work with Brazilian, and if they due it will likely be a landmark build.

    • @tclaffey
      @tclaffey Před 3 měsíci

      That makes a lot of sense

    • @rogerdsmith
      @rogerdsmith Před 3 měsíci

      I would be interested to know if Brazilian rosewood from an earlier guitar could be repurposed when fabricating a new instrument? Is that even possible? I say that because there are still a few Japanese guitars from the late 60s early 70s that have Brazilian Rosewood. Sometimes these guitars can be picked up for less than $500 on eBay. My interest is in a smaller bodied guitar that would be suitable for a 24” scale neck. My thought was that getting one of those instruments in a dreadnought size, might allow for a sufficiently large enough piece of Rosewood to be used. I would appreciate your thoughts about this.

  • @jeraldtackitt6749
    @jeraldtackitt6749 Před rokem +17

    I was surprised. The Indian rosewood sounded crisp/cleaner than the Brazilian on my iPhone. For my taste and budget, I’d go with the Indian rosewood

    • @merseybeat1963
      @merseybeat1963 Před měsícem

      On an iPhone ! All phones are horrible sounding that means less than nothing.

  • @scouser2230
    @scouser2230 Před rokem +10

    Guitar A is slightly brighter than guitar B. They both sound fabulous.

  • @justinray9895
    @justinray9895 Před rokem +5

    That's probably the most realistic breakdown and talk about those 2 woods I've heard yet... very good job guys! Time very well spent.

  • @shutupnplayyerguitar3812
    @shutupnplayyerguitar3812 Před rokem +21

    I picked B as the one I preferred. Turns out that was the Indian Rosewood. I didn’t expect that?

    • @MrGuitarist900
      @MrGuitarist900 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Same. Seemed like it was slightly more bodied. A was slightly, ever-so marginally, more steel sounding.

    • @dustinjackson3964
      @dustinjackson3964 Před 2 měsíci

      Same, I felt like B sounded slightly more full sounding .

  • @user-xr6id3lg6e
    @user-xr6id3lg6e Před 3 měsíci +4

    If I had to buy one on the blind, I'd choose B. Definitely no losers here - both incredible!

  • @keithgreenaway2690
    @keithgreenaway2690 Před rokem +4

    I picked A as Brazilian and turned out to be correct. A good Brazilian guitar has a full yet crystal clear sound with what I call glassy reverb tone. I heard it right away in the A guitar particularly in the lower -mid register. Also usually Brazilian has more sustain. Years ago I had a Larrivee D10 EIR, and happened to find a D10 Brazilian for sale. In head to head comparison the Brazilian was clearly superior. I sold the EIR, and still have the Brazilian. I have a EIR Goodall Rosewood Standard that is close in tone to the D10 Brazilian but lacks the glassy reverb effect. Both are fantastic guitars. I definitely appreciate the difference in a good Brazilian guitar, but would never pay the insane upcharge for it in todays world. I actually have another Larrivee D09 Brazilian that sounds identical to the D10. I bought both of them used private party for the about same price as EIR. Thanks for the great demo.

  • @StanHall007
    @StanHall007 Před rokem +5

    I think there is a difference, it’s subtle at best. It would be interesting to do the same comparison in three more years. I listened on three different Bluetooth speakers, good, better, best kind of thing. As the speaker quality increased, there was slight increases in tonality differences. Differences don’t necessarily constitute better, at these price points. At this level, it’s a pretty subjective and more a matter of how much those differences are worth to any given customer.
    If money weren’t an issue, many of us would upgrade without question. Both are incredible instruments, top of the food chain!
    An even bigger testimony to the quality of Preston Thompson and his legacy of unquestionable quality. Nice version of AT !

  • @colakeith1
    @colakeith1 Před rokem +6

    Listening through my set up(PA) I could only notice subtle nuances between the Brazilian and the East Indian. Although strikingly beautiful. I have to say it was not enough to make me pay the difference. This was a fascinating comparison. Thank you.

  • @carole8312
    @carole8312 Před rokem +4

    Thanks for the comparison video. Love it!

  • @difalkner
    @difalkner Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm listening on a desktop computer with Altec-Lansing speakers and subwoofer; there was a definite difference between the Brazilian and Indian but both sound great. Good comparison!

  • @user-do5hd7zb4x
    @user-do5hd7zb4x Před 20 dny +1

    I think your comparison was top notch! I had a friend who had a rosewood backed guitar and I'm still interested in finding out all I can about this beautiful wood. Your comparison was just exactly what I needed. Im only slightly more partial twords Brazilian rosewood because it is darker. Any rosewood is prone to splitting or cracking, my opinion only. It is very temperamental wood in that it must be kept humidifier or it will dry out and crack. I don't feel there is any advantage to rosewood other than it is supposed to project well. There are violins that use rosewood for pegs or tailpiece on Stradivari instruments so rosewood must have some advantages sonically. I believe rosewood guitars are fussy and need humidity to avoid cracking. I wouldn't mind being given a rosewood guitar but I might not necessarily run out and buy one. Thank you gentlemen for doing this test. I really appreciate it!😅

  • @JS-nf1sn
    @JS-nf1sn Před rokem +1

    Another great video. Loving the channel.

  • @77guitarts22
    @77guitarts22 Před rokem +8

    Visually I favour the Indian Rosewood, those stripes are so appealing. Apart from being a rarity I don't understand the price tag difference. It's such a small tonal difference that it's not really worth it to me.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +2

      The main difference in price is due to brazilian rosewood being much more difficult to legally source.

    • @jimbrunett5025
      @jimbrunett5025 Před rokem

      I agree. I think it must be a feeling thing to the player because I did not hear much if any difference

  • @williamburroughs2273
    @williamburroughs2273 Před rokem +5

    I called that, I knew B was the Indian Rosewood as soon as I heard it. The bass was the giveaway, IR always has a (at least comparatively) boomy and muddy bass compared to Brazilian's low end that is deep but also focused. But this guitar B is a fantastic IR D-28 and I'd love to have it. It's also often the case that the highs can be bright, shrill or chirpy with IR, but not on this guitar. I think Preston Thompson is making the best boutique D-28s out there now.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Nicely done! Thanks for watching. Be sure to like, share, and subscribe for more.

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Před 11 měsíci

      I've never heard Indian have chirpy highs. Especially compared to Brazilian which often seems to have brittle highs

  • @RonaldoNoschang
    @RonaldoNoschang Před 7 měsíci

    I live in Brazil, here the farms, the pillars of the old fences are made of Brazilian rosewood, they are everywhere, today cutting is prohibited, but they are everywhere, buildings, floors, roofs, furniture

  • @thefamilydog6392
    @thefamilydog6392 Před rokem

    This is my favourite fishing and golf channel

  • @SillyMoustache
    @SillyMoustache Před rokem +2

    An interesting comparison.
    I listened to this with my sound into a high quality amp into 1970s large floor standing speakers.
    frankly gents, I think that the difference in time of build and amount of play makes more difference that the B&S tone woods.
    FWIW - I wouldn't buy a new guitar with Brazilian or Madagascar for two reasons, -one being moral - BRW is Cites listed for a reason! Madagascar is being looted of its native trees and a lot of bad stuff is involved.
    Indian Rosewood (Usually called "East" Indian rosewood) is native to:
    Andaman Islands, Bangladesh, East Himalaya, India, Java, Nepal, West Himalayas, and has been Introduced into Borneo, Kenya, Lesser Sunda Is., Malaya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Queensland, Sri Lanka, Sulawesi, Tanzania, Uganda
    I recently purchased two Eastman guitars with beautiful "rosewood" backs and sides, and I'd love to know its origins. It could also be latifilia sissou.
    I preferred the one with white, black and grey rectangles!

  • @davidbible1077
    @davidbible1077 Před rokem +1

    Great comparison, best I have ever seen or heard on line. I will put it this way- On a scale of 1-5 , The Brazilian is the 5 & East Indian is 4 , or maybe 4 1/2 . Very subtle tonality. The Brazilian is just a little brighter , a little more punch of clarity and that is it. I listened on my headphones and monitor speakers both hooked to my computer. No way is B rosewood that much better for the price. I also agree that the tiny bit more of clarity from the BR would satisfy the purest that has the ear to hear it and does not care about the extra cost.

  • @davegallagher7428
    @davegallagher7428 Před rokem

    I broke out my Bluetooth speaker for this one and I would be lying if I said I could hear a noticeable difference. I still think that the best thing you can do is to play the guitars. I recently purchased a Taylor with east Indian rosewood back and sides and a Sinker redwood top. Two minutes into playing it I knew it was perfect for me. I took a beating on trading in a relatively new guitar but I’m so happy that I ended up with the right guitar for me. Great video guys!

  • @michaelgonzalez7304
    @michaelgonzalez7304 Před měsícem

    When it comes to deciding between these guitars, you got to have one of each.

  • @mrjonesmusic5770
    @mrjonesmusic5770 Před 3 dny

    In the blind test I really preferred guitar B overall, especially in the treble regsister. Listening on my old studio monitors it was a much tighter sound.

  • @Patriot-American
    @Patriot-American Před rokem

    Of these two listening via iPhone, I liked the IR as it just hit the tonal characteristics that are more pleasing to my ears. Perhaps it might be different live… dunno but appreciate the fine flatpicking displayed here …

  • @ObservantHistorian
    @ObservantHistorian Před měsícem

    I've been around this discussion for YEARS. Most the people who get hung up on tone wood, strings, pick choice, how you hold your pick, et al, often don't seem to play very well, regardless.

  • @jamesberrange3671
    @jamesberrange3671 Před rokem +1

    It was a great test and although I listened to it several times - with and without my eyes closed - I could not hear much of a difference between the two. Perhaps a better question is "at this level of quality how much does it really matter?". Depending on what sound a musician is after, maybe a little, but then again maybe not really that much. It also depends on the piece you're playing and who is playing it. Thanks for the test I'll defjnitely be listening to it some more in the next few days.

  • @JTSunriseMusic
    @JTSunriseMusic Před rokem +1

    Varnish,and density and age of wood matters allot also, Brazilian with a celluloid finish like old Martins between late 60s and later can definitely tell difference in the dark cave-sounding rosewood tone between Brazil wood and Indian wood they switched to later

  • @ruybal34
    @ruybal34 Před 11 měsíci +2

    They are slightly different but both sound spectacular. I’d go for the Indian Rosewood 9/10 unless I just had a hole burning in my pocket for the Brazilian.

  • @Haskaza22
    @Haskaza22 Před rokem +1

    Playing acoustically I prefer the Brazilian. Playing through a microphone or internal preamp a simple scoop of mids on the Indian will achieve basically the same sound for a lot less money. If I were rich I'd own the Brazilian but unfortunately...! I am happy to own a 2013 Martin Custom DC Aura and 2019 Guild F1512e 12 string that both have solid Indian rosewood back and sides which sound awesome. Both for less than the price of any single Brazilian would cost.

  • @bobpikr4666
    @bobpikr4666 Před rokem

    I read through the comments and didn't see much of anything I disagree with. So many insightful, discerning observations! For guitars at this level, there is no right or wrong or better or worse. As was said, it's all in what the player wants and is able to afford. I chose the EIRW. I have to wonder just how much of what I hear is the Indian vs Brazilian or new vs played on? While the Brazilian does have all the bass characteristics and other great attributes discussed, I thought the Indian R/W was just a little more balanced and fuller across the sound spectrum. Your videographer is to be complimented on a great job of getting his guitar beautifully broken in! I wonder if he would be willing to put his guitar under the bed, play the Brazilian R/W guitar for the next three years and come back and let you guys try it again? Anyway, I'd certainly take one of each! Great demo - Thanks to you both!

  • @The_Guitar_Dude
    @The_Guitar_Dude Před rokem +1

    Listening through a pair of JBL LSR308 monitors I think I actually prefer the Indian. It sounds warmer, but that could be also the age. It seems as though string choice would make more of a tonal difference than the tonewoods themselves. I Prefer Phosphor Bronze or Nickel strings to 80/20 bronze too, so maybe I just like a warmer sounding guitar in general?

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 Před rokem

    Trent sold me my Eastman after John was showing it off and Jeremy called so a good still picture of it was made. Thanks

  • @Samana009
    @Samana009 Před rokem +1

    I am Brazilian and I have dealt with Brazilian Rosewood for great part o f my life and I tell you that the difference in negligible. They are from the same family and they sound almost the same.

  • @williamsmith41
    @williamsmith41 Před rokem +1

    Well, I do know the old growth Brazilian is way better than the farm type pulpy Braz. My Great Uncle Dick Smith-God rest his soul talked me out of getting a new 2001 or 02 Martin CW-Braz. Bone as he said a buddy had one and the eyes in the figure-actually separated and popped out! Tone and overall voice are subjected to the ear of the beholder-I liked A! And age to me is a major factor with any instrument. I'm still kicking myself for not buying a 1934 Bone D-28 for 20K in 2001! The Braz. was better voiced to my ears, more treble-midrange that I personally like reminded me of some old bones from the 40's! Well done gentlemen and may God Bless

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 Před rokem +1

    Yes there is a difference, liking Brazilian (headphones better bass). Can I choose both? East Indian Rosewood is usually harvested as the shade trees reach maturity in urban neighborhoods. Of course these are Thompson guitars.

  • @ScottLaneMusic
    @ScottLaneMusic Před rokem +1

    I think the Braz highs have more cut and sizzle - tighter lows. I get why bluegrass guys might prefer Braz. I did like the overall sound of the IRW a bit better. But for lead and bluegrass - braz.

  • @CuttingEdgetools
    @CuttingEdgetools Před rokem

    Right off the git go I easily could tell the guitar that was broken in and opened up from years of playing. The tonal Difference is very subtle, but it’s there.

  • @carlosreira2189
    @carlosreira2189 Před rokem +1

    Both really good sounding guitars. A is a little brighter and B favors the bass more, subtle though, so I'm going to say A is the Brazilian.

  • @dunhamchris
    @dunhamchris Před rokem +2

    I own a Brazilian Rosewood Bourgeois OM with an Adirondack top. I LOVE that guitar. Listening through youtube... yes, I hear a difference between the guitars. But I can't tell if it's the rosewood. I'd be much more inclined to think the top is whats making the difference. I believe about 80% of the sound of a guitar comes from the top. And only 20% is from the back and sides. Those tops are two different cuts of wood. It would be a more fair comparison to have tops from the same tree (side by side) on two guitars with different back and sides... Bottom line - if the wood or the guitar or the builder or the bracing or the finish or the sound hole or the neck shape or the color or the... etc. is what does it for you then thats what you need to go for. Whatever makes you want to pick up the guitar and play it- that's what you get!

    • @justinray9895
      @justinray9895 Před rokem +1

      I do agree there is a difference. Too me, there is way more of a price difference than there is a tone difference. Not sure which one was which, but one was a little warmer and thicker. The other was a little louder brighter. Both sounded FANTASTIC!!

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Před 11 měsíci

      ​​@@justinray9895xactly. Btw anyone who owns a Brazilian is going to say that its better. And I don't blame them considering the cost. But the facts are, it's not better. Sometimes its different. Not better. If I'm Indian was rare wood, trust me, it would be Holy grail wood

  • @pjiossi
    @pjiossi Před rokem +1

    To me there was a very noticeable difference. A (Braz) sounded more “alive” across the register from low to high and had a very pronounced reverb and sustain comparatively. My personal guitar is an IR OM but if it weren’t for the cost I’d love to own a Braz OM or dreadnaught. My IR sounds great though, don’t get me wrong…

  • @matthewpotter1933
    @matthewpotter1933 Před rokem +2

    Both sound great, and I could not tell the difference listening on my ear buds. Makes me appreciate the EIR Martin HD 12-28 I have and to stop yearning for a BR. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Love your videos.

  • @michaelsedgwick7907
    @michaelsedgwick7907 Před rokem

    Phew, I wasn’t sure I’d got it but yes could hear definite difference and was correct. With the braz, lows are deeper, highs are “sparklier”, for want of a better word. Both great guitars.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Yeah absolutely! Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe for more.

  • @jdallison7061
    @jdallison7061 Před rokem +1

    To me A seemed more tight on highs through low mids but was muddy on low end. And B was more low end geared and not tight throughout the whole low,mid to high spectrum so A would be my pick for sure just for overall tone.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      That's fair, thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe for more!

  • @MatthewPeskay
    @MatthewPeskay Před 4 měsíci

    I listended with my headphones and made a note which one I thought sounded better each time it switched and every checkmark was for the B guitar. I thought the notes sounded cleaner and brighter. The A guitar sounded like it had a filter on it compared to the B guitar. The B guitar sounded really clean and crisp. The A guitar sounded great too but sounded slightly more muted to me. I'll hang guitar A on the wall (backwards so I can look at it) while playing Guitar B.

  • @davisphillips6409
    @davisphillips6409 Před rokem +2

    I preferred Brazil Rosewood, but mostly because I liked the highs better and felt like more mids were missing in B.

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Před 11 měsíci

      B usually has more mids. Idk I prefer Indian but both are great

  • @uvp5000
    @uvp5000 Před rokem +3

    Did I enjoy the comparison? Yes, thank you for posting this. I agree that feeling would be the deciding factor if budget were not a consideration. I once played a 1969 Martin with an Adirondack top and Brazillian Rosewood (BRW) - I was immediately bored; it had no resonance or responsiveness. Tonewoods matter, but how an instrument feels in the hands as much as how it sounds is what matters most. I've played Sitka and Maple instruments that just floored me. I've played more "premium" instruments (i.e. tonewoods) that did not seem worth the price, and I would be willing to pay such a price. This is an intentionally ridiculous statement: If the instrument was made of cardboard, but was magic, I would purchase that over an instrument that had premium materials but left me disinterested. Yes, I've played instruments with premium materials that were magic. I've also played guitars with more common woods that I've enjoyed greatly.
    Ultimately, I agree completely - purchase what you want from the outset (be clear about what you want), or you may wonder if you made the best purchasing decision for yourself.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      Couldn't have said it better. Thanks for watching!

    • @dantheman348
      @dantheman348 Před 8 měsíci

      When I was playing d28’s, the guy I got my ‘61 from also had a ‘69 for sale and I got to play both of them side by side in the same room, both with fresh strings. The ‘69 I played was also a dog. It wasn’t in the same league as any of my newer guitars let alone a vintage BRW Martin. ‘69 was the last year for BRW for Martin with regards to regular production models, and I wonder if they were maybe at the end of their stock for ‘good’ Brazilian and those 69’s may have been built with whatever they had left over. The sonic difference in the 61 and 69 were striking. The guy said he knew I’d come to that same conclusion so it wasn’t just me!

  • @aum3.146
    @aum3.146 Před rokem +1

    man I knew A was brazillian and I preferred it from the first strum. in some ways they are close but in some ways they are worlds apart.

  • @naokmoon1487
    @naokmoon1487 Před 5 měsíci

    I have a chance to get an old 1996 Brazilian rosewood model "Aria AW-830", should I get this guitar? It sells only for 550$Cad used, should I get it or buy a used Blueridge BR160 which is Indian rosewood at around 1500$Cad ? :D

  • @Leonard.J.Mills.
    @Leonard.J.Mills. Před 7 měsíci +1

    It amuses me that I use Indian Rosewood each day in my manufacturing.

  • @wilhelmrogue1
    @wilhelmrogue1 Před rokem

    Beautiful gitars!

  • @BradTeena
    @BradTeena Před rokem +3

    They both sound great but the Brazilian has a thicker low end that thumps better 😊

  • @DanTrapp
    @DanTrapp Před rokem +1

    Funny. I thought B was the BRAZ because it was tighter, but I liked the sound of A better. Figured it was due to opening up with age. Nope. Definitely a difference.

  • @edunderwood2597
    @edunderwood2597 Před rokem +1

    Interesting. Just can't tell a big difference, at least with my computer. This is why a return policy is needed. I'm not paying 2000+ for a guitar I can't touch and hear in person. I'm going to be in your area between Christmas and New Year, will the TAS be open?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      We're planning on it! We also do have a great return policy. Hope you're able to make it in to the shoppe!

  • @rogersova9843
    @rogersova9843 Před rokem +1

    I JUST BOUGHT A 816CE. NICE.

  • @lefty5string
    @lefty5string Před rokem

    B. saves me from going down that rabbit hole and spending thousands. thanks

  • @billdedrick1914
    @billdedrick1914 Před rokem +2

    Unfair comparison since both guitar builds are not identical and especially unfair since one is new and the other is 3 years old and most likely has been played significantly. Having said that, very noticeable difference between the two. My ear definitely favored the 3 year old Indian Rosewood. It has a more robust fuller sounding output and volume with more clarity and balance, more roundness and thickness to the notes representing a more open pleasing sound. The Brazillian sounded muted, bright with thinness to the individual notes and almost strident with a tight semi compressed tone representative of a new unplayed guitar.

    • @uvp5000
      @uvp5000 Před rokem

      I thought some of the same things, too. I initially picked correctly that guitar A was the Brazillian, but soon developed doubts about what I was hearing. I found the East Indian Rosewood guitar very pleasing to the ear the more I hear the two of them for much the same reasons that you wrote. If I could afford a boutique builder's instrument, I would afford the Brazillian option if one was available.

  • @mojo6778
    @mojo6778 Před rokem

    I could not hear the difference, however, I have been able to play a couple of Brazilian Rosewood back and side guitars and did notice a slight difference in tone, but much more projection or volume out of the Brazilian guitar.

  • @Tyler_Wilson
    @Tyler_Wilson Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think Brazilian just has an extra little bit of high end sparkle that I can hear immediately lacking from the Indian. I have owned and loved both. Will 99% of people be able to hear a difference? Absolutely not.

  • @DesimoneAmps
    @DesimoneAmps Před 10 měsíci +1

    I Heard a fair difference.I would choose BR guitar to recording and IR to live performance (in a band)... BR has a more glassy and delicate sound and the IR is more mid focused than the first...

  • @jameslifetimelearner
    @jameslifetimelearner Před rokem

    One guitar had more overall presence and low end but both were setup with light strings and buzzed incessantly

  • @davidgillespie7954
    @davidgillespie7954 Před rokem

    My wife and I both chose the Indian rosewood as the sound we preferred. I am a guitar hack and she is a professional musician of many years (She'd kill me if I put the actual number on here). After this experience, I would certainly not spring for the additional $$$$ for Brazilian. Understanding that the sound on the laptop is not the greatest, but they were being judged on the same system.

  • @philkinzer6486
    @philkinzer6486 Před rokem

    Does anyone know what pick John uses on his dreadnaught demos?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      For a lot of the older videos he will be using a Bluechip TAD 55-3R but on the most recent ones he with use a ToneSlab. I want to say in this video he was using the ToneSlab but I'm not 100% sure!

  • @zixednatz
    @zixednatz Před rokem

    At first i couldn't find any difference. Then I focused on the bass and then I was able to guess the right BRW, but it was very very close.

  • @martind-1876
    @martind-1876 Před rokem

    I could tell small difference but not enough for the extra unless you have lots of money. Both great!

  • @panfelix2890
    @panfelix2890 Před 4 měsíci

    Great comparison! Brazilian sounds a little bit dryer to me. Very slight difference, Indian rosewood rocks too!

  • @marcusvaldes
    @marcusvaldes Před rokem

    I guessed Guitar A as the Brazilian. It felt "fuller" from my computer speakers. I'm typing this comment before finding out which one is which.

  • @ericinms
    @ericinms Před 3 měsíci

    I picked B! less shrill. both sound killer

  • @jaycee4203
    @jaycee4203 Před rokem

    What is the make and model of the onboard electronics that are in the guitar Jeremy has?

  • @dantheman348
    @dantheman348 Před 8 měsíci

    I immediately picked A as Brazilian from the first time you hit those medium to higher registers and the harmonics sustained and bloomed longer. But I own a 61 d28 and often play it along side EIR and HOG guitars so I kind of knew what I was listening for. For the record I really like guitars made of all woods but to say BRW and EIR sound identical, is not accurate

  • @Th3Alfisti
    @Th3Alfisti Před rokem +1

    For me the better sound has the A, brasillian rosewood

  • @DjBydLo
    @DjBydLo Před rokem

    Fuck, i was wrong, i thought that the brazilian rosewood was going to be warmer and the indian sharper, but it is inverse here. Thanks for the video.

  • @philkinzer6486
    @philkinzer6486 Před rokem

    Also does he have a favorite string/gauge?

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      John prefers the GHS Americana Mediums for tone, but for longevity it would be the D'Addario XS Mediums!

  • @boxbymartin
    @boxbymartin Před rokem

    How about a similar test with guitars the same age - preferably several years?

  • @adambrown7112
    @adambrown7112 Před rokem +2

    I’ve always felt the difference of Brazilian rather than hearing it, if that makes sense. From behind the guitar I find it easy to feel the difference between the two, at least in all the examples I’ve played.

    • @uvp5000
      @uvp5000 Před rokem

      Would you be willing to describe that difference here?

    • @adambrown7112
      @adambrown7112 Před rokem +2

      @@uvp5000 sure, this is only my personal unscientific experience but I usually feel like Braz hits a little harder on the bass registers. I always play a G chord when I pick up a new guitar and I’ll slide into from the second frets emphasizing the low E, the BRWs I’ve played have always had more of a deeper thump to that lower register while EIR can feel a little muddy with a super fast decay. I owned a PWGC HD Brazilian for a little while and even brand new that guitar has a really pronounced lower end for being brand new and actually “felt” looser than the low end on some EIR guitars I’ve owned that had many years on them.

    • @uvp5000
      @uvp5000 Před rokem

      @@adambrown7112 Thank you so much for that description. Excluding one Martin I played with BRW, I have not had the experience of a duly impressive instrument made with Adirondack Spruce and BRW. If I play such an instrument, your description will figure prominently in my thoughts. Again, thank you very much.

  • @pickerjer919
    @pickerjer919 Před rokem +1

    I play a 38D 28. Enough said.

  • @merseybeat1963
    @merseybeat1963 Před měsícem

    Around 8:00 during strumming I wonder if you guys mixed up the guitar labelings.
    Guitar A starts out sounding more open and B more muffled then a couple in it reverses B is open and A more muffled..Better look into it.

  • @acousticaddiction7719
    @acousticaddiction7719 Před rokem +2

    Immediately could discern the difference in bottom end on the Brazilian.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      Nice! Thanks for watching! Be sure to like, share, and subscribe for more!

  • @karengayle9331
    @karengayle9331 Před rokem +2

    I have to listen hard to tell the difference. If you sing and play or are in a band I cannot tell a difference. I hear denser lows but just barely in the Brazilian wood.

  • @japaneserequired6314
    @japaneserequired6314 Před rokem

    To be honest, the obsession with rosewood in general I have never understood. Every single mahogany guitar I pickup sounds better than rosewood to me. Even laminated back and sides sounds better than rosewood to me. To each his own but I'm always cautious when everybody wants the same thing. Is it really the best or is it just what everybody wants because they think it is the best (or because it isn't really legal anymore)

  • @user-fp1wx2oq7e
    @user-fp1wx2oq7e Před 2 měsíci

    I liked B the best sound wise. The Brazilian wood looks more beautiful to me though.

  • @edwardfletchertheoneandonly
    @edwardfletchertheoneandonly Před 7 měsíci

    The Indian sounds like it has more bass on my iPad… but then when I watched you play the without the blind, the brazilian sounded as if it was pitched lower in the mids

  • @dalesearcy5734
    @dalesearcy5734 Před 5 měsíci

    I would be interested in a lying blind test sometime.
    By this, I mean use the same for both A and B.
    As I listened to this blind test, it was very hard for me to hear a difference between the 2 guitars.
    You could have played only one and I would not have known.
    Also it would be fun to see John do the blindfold test with the two guitars and see which one he picks as the Brazilian.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před 5 měsíci

      Now that might be a tough test - we'll have to try that sometime!

  • @barryhambly7711
    @barryhambly7711 Před 7 měsíci

    Nuts you switch to quickly between guitars to let the ear start hearing the different sound. True Brazilian wood guitar has a much deeper sound with more body to it classical guitars are noted for the difference from Indian wood

  • @exyx
    @exyx Před 7 měsíci

    I thought the A guitar (Brazilian) had more bite than the B (Indian), but I could identify it as such, only that they were different and I had a slight preference of A over B.

  • @shawnsnow6413
    @shawnsnow6413 Před rokem +1

    To my ear, Guitar B was louder and had more definition in the bass strings. A sounded a little soft and muddy to me. Good to know I won't have to spend up to buy a Brazilian now.

  • @danamartinmayo9529
    @danamartinmayo9529 Před 4 měsíci

    B was my choice. Better focus.

  • @TravisHam
    @TravisHam Před rokem

    To me, BR sounded much rounder and seems like it might be the better tool if playing solo and trying to fill up as much space as possible. EIR sounded tighter, more precise, and seems like it would sit so much more naturally in a mix such that it would be the better tool if performing/recording with other instruments. For personal/private use, I'd take the BR. For professional use, I'd take EIR. For the massive price difference though, I'd put my money on the EIR every time.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem +1

      Very well said, thanks for watching and sharing!

  • @leoscomputerandguitarrevie978

    Im a little bit torn on this comparison, but it may be due to the fact that the Brazilian guitar hasn't opened up yet. The Brazilian guitar sounded great for picking, and the Indian Rosewood guitar sounded better for strumming, however, once the Brazilian Rosewood guitar ages, I know for a fact that guitar will blow out that Indian Rosewood guitar. I've played a few Brazilian Rosewood guitars, even had the opportunity to play a Martin D28 with Brazilian Rosewood, and when I played that Martin, whew, it felt like the guitar was gonna fall apart with how much vibration it had, but it had the loudest and most fullest sound that I have ever heard from a guitar. It sucks that guitar wasn't for sale, but it was a joy to play.
    I have a Guild 12 string guitar with Indian Rosewood and absolutely love it. I've played 12 strings with Solid Mahogany and Rosewood, and even laminate back and sides, and it seems to me that Rosewood back and side guitars make a 12 string shine. With 6 string guitars, I like both Mahogany and Rosewood, and also have a Yamaha FG840 that I've had for 6 years that sounds great, even with laminate maple back and sides.
    Great video comparison. Brazilian Rosewood is my favorite, but Indian Rosewood is a close second. I've never played Madagascar Rosewood guitars so I can't Comment on that.

  • @noonster55
    @noonster55 Před 8 měsíci

    Such a slight difference. Exactly what you noticed. So very little difference. All I know is they both sound awesome...

  • @DustyNonya
    @DustyNonya Před 7 měsíci

    I'll always prefer Indian to Brazilian Rosewood. Brazilian is often a bit brighter and sometimes louder...but, as a fingerstyle player, I try to avoid "twangy".
    If you're a Bluegrass flat picker I could see a Brazilian being a good choice.

  • @Chance-ry1hq
    @Chance-ry1hq Před 5 měsíci

    Sound wise I preferred B. That probably is because it has opened up. Visually I’d take A, the Brazilian Rosewood. Between these two guitars I’d take the Brazilian. Once it opens up it will sound every bit as good as the other, or better.

  • @peteralicea1968
    @peteralicea1968 Před rokem

    I was prepared to vote for the Brazilian but my ears voted for the Indian. The Indian sounded like a well aged old Martin D-18 with the crispness :)

  • @Ks-zz9lh
    @Ks-zz9lh Před 8 měsíci

    I think I liked A best. I think it’s Brazilian. But both are incredible.

    • @Ks-zz9lh
      @Ks-zz9lh Před 8 měsíci

      So it was right. I guess correct. First guitar I heard was Brazilian. I could tell. Again. Both are incredible. But there is this tiny difference. So many other factors, build style, model, age, hide glue etc etc play a massive role. That why this comparison is so good. Many thanks.

  • @btpearce
    @btpearce Před rokem +1

    I could not tell any difference . I listened with my eyes closed and I thought it was just one guitar ( Didn't know you were playing both in turns in the song) .

  • @boco1951
    @boco1951 Před rokem

    The spruce is critical then back and sides I think.

  • @rogerd9150
    @rogerd9150 Před rokem

    Well I picked the Indian Rosewood guitar as my favorite. Looks like a few more folks here did as well. Guess I don’t need to pay $$$ extra for a Brazilian rosewood guitar.

    • @AcousticShoppe
      @AcousticShoppe  Před rokem

      There you go! It all comes down to preference at the end of the day. Thanks for watching!

  • @dalee.ankele1047
    @dalee.ankele1047 Před rokem

    Would be nice to see the backs of the two guitars.

  • @thomasgathings1480
    @thomasgathings1480 Před rokem

    To me, I was pretty sure A was the Brazilian even before I heard B. Then B confirmed it. Brazilian was so lush, big, complex, satisfying. B was flatter, almost less lively. Listening through my home stereo/Klipsch speakers. At least this was my experience

  • @MANDALAMUSICNYC
    @MANDALAMUSICNYC Před 8 měsíci

    A is the Brazilian could tell immediately by the clarity and attack especially on the lows

  • @acadianflatpicker
    @acadianflatpicker Před rokem

    With headphones I couldn't tell. Would have to really play it.

  • @lilycat1694
    @lilycat1694 Před rokem

    Before I found out which one was which, I preferred the sound of Guitar B.