We're both ghosts, Zod | Man of Steel
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- Man of Steel (2013)
Director: Zack Snyder
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Soooo many reviewers were mad that a large part of the movie focused on Zod and Jor El and I'm like wtf is wrong with you people, this is incredible
Fucking idiots.
No they weren't. They were mad because the main character has no personality. You can give your side characters arcs and a personality, but when your lead is as charismatic as Henry Cavill, and he comes off bland and boring, you have failed as a filmmaker.
Remember, Zack Snyder couldn't make Henry Cavill look charismatic. Henry Cavill is one of the most charismatic actors of this generation. That is a failure that speaks so much to Zack's inability to direct actors it is deafening. Michael Shannon carried this movie, because even though he also wasn't given proper direction, he's Michael fucking Shannon, and basically just played his character from Boardwalk Empire with Superpowers.
There's a thing called Character Development, and what, no personality? Are you sure you have watched the movie or just fall asleep?
Or maybe, you want Sups to be a fucking Gary Stue who is perfect from A to Z?
@@geoffreysorkin5774 They were mad because he wasn't Christopher's Reeve's Superman, who they naively think is Superman despite the fact the character hasn't been anything like him in both the comics and animation for almost 2 decades now ever since he was killed off in The Death of Superman arch in 1991 when comic sales for Superman were at an all time low and new readers didn't care for him at all. It was so bad Deathstroke comics were selling much better back then. So in other words they mostly criticised this film on the basis on nostalgia which isnt a valid criticism at all. That's called been biased and close minded. You know something critics aren't supposed to be when reviewing films. That's usually reflects on us the audience. But then again most critics are exactly that and have a clear and obvious political agenda when praising and criticising films. The Last Jedi been the greatest example of all.
@@taliamason7986 Remove the tin foil hat, and stop blowing a shitty director. The best live-action Superman is Dean Cain. Why? He had emotions across the spectrum, and he was able to be angry, to fight people, and to smile.
Also, Superman has never acted in the comics like he did in this movie. Superman has never been Batman with Superpowers. You're thinking of Supreme when Rob Liefeld wrote him. He also doesn't throw his enemies into populated buildings. That's Hyperion.
Also, Superman in the early 2000s is credited as one of the most important characters with bringing comics out of the dark ages of the 90s.
I love the look of doubt and pain on his face after he deletes the AI. A villain with depth.
*EXACTLY!*
00:30 it's what jor-el said. That's why.
Zod and jor-el were once friends and they respected each other tremendously, Zod must have felt some remorse.
A villain with no depth - no, in their twisted mind, justification - is just a bad guy in a black hat. Good fictional villains need a bit of grey.
That's bs, he felt nothing. Friends don't kill each other and try killing their children.
Your talking about genocide : zod Yes and I’m arguing it’s merits with a ghost. Love that line
Yes. He confirmed his doubts about what he was about to do. He was in fact a victim of his own nature and he knew it. And he missed his old friend.
im still trying to comprehend how you used your colon
Ever heard of the Enter key?
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@@bryanlee6065 You're*
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Jor-El : "Our people can co-exist."
Zod: "So we can spend minutes adapting and then gaining superpowers?"
Zod may have dropped the ball on this one lol
What makes you think it takes minutes?
the witcher king One word...
Zod
@@jonathanabrego8552 zod actually took longer to adapt.
the witcher king the dude looked at his hand and went, alright lets do this.
He only took a few seconds more and laser eyes popped out
Zod has set an impossibly high standard for DCEU villains. And to this day no one has managed to overcome it
Orm came close.
@@TheBlond49 That's true he came the closest
Lex was great. Ares was not bad and Orm and Black Manta are truly competition
@@odiadordeisrael Lex was dogshit
@@TheUndyingCrystal Agreed, Luthor was a comedy villain with a comedic sidekick, Otis.
Zod is evidently conflicted, his own harshness toward his former friend disturbed him. What a tragic character Zod is...
Calogero Huygens how it disturbed him ?
@@MegaVickrant You can see it on Zod's face when Jor El disappears
Totally. His ‘purpose’ is to protect Krypton and it’s people and it overrides everything else. He knows Jor el is a good man, he knows Kal is good and he knows what he’s about to do is wrong....but his purpose....
@@MegaVickrant wtf....
@@MegaVickrant wtf
I love how he uses past tense as if Zod really was a ghost when he says, “twice the man you were.”
Also might imply that he doesn't consider Zod a man anymore
@@TheErockaustin He literally says in the fucking video they're ghosts
@@ssjbroly8735 Jor-El is saying hes a ghost because Zod is no longer the person he used to be. The Zod he knew has long been dead. This is why we see Jor-El and Zod against one another because Zod has chosen violence and destruction. Zod isn't literally a ghost.
@@ssjbroly8735 he literally said in the f*cking video " twice the man you were"
@@FallenJustice it could mean that, but he could also be talking in a future tense too. It could be a sophisticated, mature, way of saying, "LOL Go ahead and mess with my perfect creation(referring to Kal-el), it'll be your own funeral! 😂 **middle finger**" or something like that.
I dont care what anyone says these two were a far better jor-el and zod than the ones in the original movies
At least Russell seems to care here Brando notoriously only did Superman for a paycheque
@@mrcritical6751 true and plus his performance is seriously overrated
I really like Michael Shannon as Zod, as good as Terrance Stamp was he could be a little over the top. Shannon meanwhile perfectly captures the personality of a former soldier pushed to the breaking point who’s become displeased with his own government.
My guess : you think so because you’re young and I disagree because I’m old.
West McGee I’m old too & think the new duo are far superior. Much better acting.
"You're talking about genocide!"
"Yes, and I am arguing its merits with a ghost."
That is Zod encapsulated, Shannon was spectacular.
This movie was so great. Michael Shannon was an incredible Zod. Why did Warner have to fuck things up so badly and try to play catch up with Marvel? They could've realeased some quality hero flicks, if only they took their time with them.
Randy qquaint so true they took the emotion side and just tried to go to fast with the story that didnt make sense at all not only that wtf was the cgi on sups in jl
Yeah. Also Batman vs Superman ultimate edition was kinda great too. Wonder women was one of the best superhero movie. Cinematographer says Snyder's Justice league cut was awesome. Even Jason Momoa said Snyder's Justice league is sick. WB just messed it up. They messed up a bit with Batman vs Superman, suicide squad and a lot in Justice league and then put the blame on Snyder.
@@SAM_1077 wonder woman sucked
@@logankowalyk2580 it's your opinion. People liked wonder women and it did good in box office. It's rating is high. So sorry if u don't like it. But I like it.
I think the other mistake was the tone of the DCEU. I think what Snyder failed to realize is you can do a dark tone, without going for edge and shock value.
Is it just me or do Zod and jor El remind me of Xavier and magneto
Good catch
Even Megatron and Optimus
and Clarke and Lex from Smallville
Eeshan Hardikar They both want to save their own race but Zod is like Eric and he doesn’t care about humans. So yeah you’re right.
100%.
@RIP FALLEN AFRKICAN LEGENDS blame WB
I love it how that ship is nearly 20, 000 years old and still light years ahead of our technology.
@@ajaybala8967 lol
as cool as it would be to see a spaceship like the uss enterprise, like you said, we are maybe a few hundred years away from that technology, but the original series did predict a lot of the cool stuff we have today. I'm not gonna lie, the transporter which is supposed to break down your body into an energy pattern and then reform it elsewhere sounds terrifying and a horrible way to die as evidenced in the original movie when it malfunctions.
Bruh ajay you dumb as fuck
It's called fiction.
@@ajaybala8967 A light "YEAR" is a measurement of time in relation to speed. Distance is measured very much differently. That's like saying comparing a Quantum Leap through an Einstein Rosen Bridge to a drive to work is the same when in actuality it isnt. The molecular transfer between two folded differences is different from the transportation of physical material over time to a new location.
TL;DR: Dont call people dumbasses when you're the dumbass because now you look like a douchebag too.
1:15 damn...that conflicted, regretful look he gives after deleting Jor-El. This guy is one of my favorite villains of all time.
Same. Him and Black Adam are my top favorites but he’s more violently Dangerous than Adam.
@@dayburks but Adam
😭
Yes, it was if for a full second... you he knew what he was doing was wrong.
I still can't believe Zod's armor was CG! This movie is still the best looking DCEU film to date(alongside Aquaman)
Ventura the Ace it’s best dceu movie in general
@@maul5578 I liked WW more tbh lol. But this movie had better action
Ventura the Ace I would say ww but they did ares terribly while mos did zod amazing zod is the best part of the movie
@Bobo Boy Ares should have been stronger than ww he is the god of war dammit, maybe zeus could have helped ww to beat ares then some people would not complain
And shazam
Geoff Johns "We should make Justice League be like Avengers"
Zack Snyder "So that we can suffer years trying to adapt to a tone style that doesn't suit DC's Dark characters"
Which is funny, because when the DC heroes debuted, they were pecfect and charismatic characters, with happy and positive stories.
Whereas Marvel heroes were imperfect beings full of flaws, and their heroism was sometimes questioned.
However, the golden age of comics is over a long time ago. DC's characters have changed a lot from their first appearances. They weren't always dark and serious.
I remember that in the Marvel and DC crossover comic, the Justice League questioned the Avengers because their world was in disorder, and that maybe they weren't capable of being heroes.
While the avengers the world of the Justice League had lost its freedom. Of course, those comics have been out for a long time.
I always saw batman as the only "dark" character in the justice league..and since dc only ever showcases him, it feels like all of DC is dark🤔
I don't think Superman functions well as a "dark" character. He is supposed to be a beacon of hope and the ying to Batman's yang
@Lord Dingus Hehehehe.
DCs Dark characters, like the big blue boy scout, Captain Marvel, Wally West, Hal Jordan (pre-Parallax).
DC is about larger than life heroes who we can aspire to be like. Marvel is about dark and flawed characters we can relate to. Making Superman be like Hyperion, or making the world hate and fear superheroes is DC copying Marvel.
"My son is twice the man you are"
Zod's face and when he turns around cracked me up so bad 🤣
"...You were"
Lil gif moment
"Our people can coexist!"
"So we can suffer though years of pain trying to adapt like your son has?"
"No Zod, you can just terraform the fourth planet of this solar system"
Lol yup. Mars could have been the one for them.
Or better for you still, the 2nd world.
Zod said that they need a foundation to build a new krypton, so terraforming mars is out of the question.
They should’ve used Venus
@@Aurantius_ Venus is even better than Earth. It's closer to the sun so their superpowers will be even stronger, and the planet will cool down once they use the terraforming gizmo
Even at the end of the scene where Zod erases Jor-El, you can see Zod’s pain as if he killed his friend again. Zod wasn’t all bad just conflicted.
Great movie.
He's by FAR the best DC movie villain. Ares was okay, but only inasmuch as a take on the devil can be a good villain. Zod had a range of depth in his motivations and emotions that no other DC movie villain has come close to - Ocean Master could have been just as great if they went with the comic version of his motivation, but they kind of pooped the bed making him a generic evil prince.
@@alessandragonzales8190 He's by FAR the best DCEU movie villain. To be more accurate.
"Hitler wasn't bad he was just conflicted about his feelings for the Jews" my brother in christ committing genocide on an entire species IS already bad.
Zod is saddled with a mindset that Joe-El knows led the planet to ruin.
By far the best villain of any movie
I like this version of Zod. He has a rationale for his evil. He is trying to rebuild Krypton and the Kryptonian race. He just doesn't let pesky morality questions, like genocide and murder, get in the way of that.
If someone had lost everything and had a chance to save the last few remaining things he knew, he would stop at nothing to do it. That’s what makes zod a compelling villain, he’s realistic with his motivation and methods, and the sense of loss is somewhat relatable
I find the best villains tend to be those that have noble ends in mind but are willing to achieve them by whatever means necessary. Zod and Batman's Ra's al Ghul are my favorites.
Indeed
Yeah, but he could have made things a lot easier if he flew a few million more miles and dropped the World Engine on Venus or Mars then come to Earth a few years later if he still wanted to conquer them😂
Of course we wouldn’t have an awesome movie then if he did that
@@AD-gd2wy As Zod said earlier in the movie: "The foundation has to be built on something." Mars does not posses the ability to support life on the level that Earth already does and Venus is even less. If they built on Mars it would have led to the same outcome that the original Kryptonian outposts suffered. With no support they died off. Earth was already able to support argriculture, which means they could grow their own food. Mars does not posses an easy pre-established source of food production, and good luck with Venus given the milenia of acid rain.
1:10 the pain he expresses.
The pain never goes away
I know this is late but when you see his pain, imagine what he must've felt like killing his friend. Twice.
Scott Ritchey that’s sad. But he did say earlier in the film when he was talking to Clark that if he had to kill jor-el he wouldn’t hesitate. Right here he did what he thought was necessary to accomplish his mission. Tragic. Life is full of hard choices
@@justintime02b45 kind of like a thanos on a smaller scale
@@tylerbrown3135a
Exactly!
The tragedy of Krypton. Born to protect Krypton, Zod struggled all his life to be his own person. Of course his purpose overruled it. He was aware that the things he did were wrong. Clark knew that he was a victim of a decadent society but had to be stopped. Just look at how his own cruelty disturbs him, what a character.
Brilliant summary of his character, kudos!
But...Zod must be stopped,no matter the cost!!
@Levineous Ogrimen sentinel was just a lazy coward
Sad how krypton sounds like crypt. And it is.
In some way, Clark put Zod out of his misery. By destroying any traces and hope restoring Krypton, he stripped Zod of his purpose.
That look at the end was like " Damn, I had to kill my friend again"
I love zod's character, he was angry, fed up, frustrated, he regretted things he did and felt guilt.
When he deletes jor-el he feels it.
But in his mind he was determined to defend krypton even after it no longer existed.
Talk about being made for a purpose.
The sloping road of rationalization. Just one more step, just one more compromise. The ends are worth it. And he suffers all the way down.
@@Leisurelee53agree and he was born and raised to be a warrior idk his parents but I can tell his parents is a lot different then Joe el parents
@@Leisurelee53jor el and zod was great friends but the way that both of them have their own way of doing things and zod way is probably the way he was taught as a warrior and by his parents
Michael Shannon it's one of the most underrated actors in cinema right now
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Nah, if you've dipped your toe into the 7th you knew of him before this.
This was a well acted movie. I wish DC would of kept the darker tone.
They will
Darker tone doesn’t apply to every character
@@snakeeyes4053 Yeah Aquaman definitely worked good with a lighter tone but I wish they'd kept it with wonder woman even though her movie was still exceptional
They will, Snyder is back and there's The Batman!
@@snakeeyes4053 right Shazam was fine with lighter tone, Josstice league was beyond atrocious, suicide squad was trash but the rest of the dceu movies were fine to me
Zod: “suffer through years of pain”
Also Zod: adapts to Earth’s atmosphere in like 10 seconds
Remember he is a soldier not a kryptonian civilian.
His potential to survive harsh environment is much higher than other kryptonians as he is a genetically engineered soldier. If he got more time on earth he will surpass superman for sure.
@@tanphan1848 ok so then genetically engineer the rest of the future kryptonians the exact same way so they don’t have to suffer so long. Easy fix. That’s kind of the idea of genetic engineering I would imagine
@@Bert439 yeah because of genetic engineering. So if they have the genesis chamber to their disposal, then just genetically engineer all future kryptonians in the exact same way as Zod was so that they don’t have to suffer for years
He was referring to Clarks inability to fit in with his powers and difficulty in understanding his place on earth.
I love how they portrayed the relationship between Zod and Jor El. You can just feel a lifetime of friendship and subsequent tension between them
#RestoreTheSnyderverse
I see them more as frenemies. Zod respects Jor El but still sees him as an obstacle to eliminate if he has no other choice.
@@Tommykey07they were friends before Zod led the insurrection.
0:34 That look you give when there is still no sign of a Man of Steel sequel.
Michael Shannon's performance as Zod is a great part of what makes this film good. He portrays Zod's single-mindedness so well it makes you believe he'd plow into the stupid decisions he makes. Even though he's a general, he's ready to destroy a world that turns his troops into super-soldiers (like Jor-El suggests, he could terraform somewhere else, then have his cake and eat it too). He's willing to destroy an AI that has tons of lost history of the culture he claims to adore, because he sees it only as his enemy. A film that can get you past those contradictions and still be good, is pretty well-crafted.
its a flaw every Kryptonian possesses except Kal, they're built for a single purpose and can't think the other way, they're designed to have a flawed mindset that only focuses on their "responsibilities", a reason why Jor-El says Kal is twice the man.
"Even though he's a general, he's ready to destroy a world that turns his troops into super-soldiers"
I've always thought that was the best part :D
Zod could've taken the narcissistic route of preserving the Earth's environment (letting humanity live) because "the pain that my people will suffer in this planet's environment is worth the power that I will gain," or he could've taken the Social Darwinist route of preserving the Earth's environment (letting humanity live) because "the pain that my people will suffer in this planet's environment is worth the power that they will gain."
Instead, he chooses to recreate the original Krypton's environment (wiping out humanity) because the power that he gains in the Earth's environment isn't worth it to him for the pain that his people would suffer.
I have never, in my life, seen a villain put in a position where he could've make the selfish choice of letting humanity live, but where he instead tried to make the personal sacrifice of wiping humanity out.
So the film is dumb but it hides it?
@@adrianoss.bougas3720 The film as a whole does have some pacing problems, but this one specific piece is so astonishingly good that I would recommend anybody slog through the rest of the movie just for this one part :)
The dialogue in this scene is ridiculously good.
"What you are proposing is GENOCIDE.
Yes. And I am arguing its merits with a ghost"
Fuck.
And this scene is exactly why Clark leading Zo away from Metropolis would never have worked. He was set on humanity's extinction.
All those haters clearly didn't pay attention to the movie.
Zod in this movie was so underrated he did him amazing I get chills watching his zod the movie in general was amazing
I loved zod in this movie the acting was pure perfection
You can see that Zod still respects Jor-El. That moment when he wipes out his conscious.
* Zod succeeds. Years later, Steppenwolf hops off a boomtube, says "oh", and quietly steps right back in.....
Steppenwolf vs. a whole freaking KINDERGARTEN of Kryptonian kids. "Yeah, I'm just gonna go."
LMAO 😂😂😂
A few moments later
Zod discovering the Anti-Life Equasion on Earth: Imma destroy Darkseid's whole career
If Zod had succeeded then none of them would have ever developed the same abilities. They were terraforming earth to mimic Krypton.
When Clark was on Zod’s ship, he lost all of his abilities because of the atmosphere... despite the sun’s presence. Unless that was just some weird plot hole, given that earlier they had explained that Supe’s powers were mostly due to the “young star.”
@@actualamateur149 Consider this a formal request for some plot armor.
The one good DC movie. None of the others even begin to compare. This had so much depth to it. The final fight between Superman and Zod broke my heart.
Bat v sup
Wonder woman
Aquaman
Not good enough for u ? And that just only DCEU
@@lmaoquan9534 bat vs superman was trash, wonderwoman was mediocre and aquaman was overrated and kinda cheesy.
@@DinkLover69 couldnt have said it better myself.
What do you think now after the Snyder Cut`?
I agree with the exception of BvS, I dont see how you can like MoS but not BvS when BvS builds on this movie
Anyways agree to disagree
This last exchange between former friends and now sworn enemies is a masterpiece. One can see Zod's duty as a general, to protect his people(as he perceives it) overwriting his remorse for having to "kill" his friend one final time. The movie has its flaws, but the dynamic between Zod and Jor are just too good.
"My son is twice the man you were." He says you were not are, just as he said they were both ghosts. The power of relegating him to the past tense.
Love or hate Snyder, I’d rather see 2 hours of Russell Crowe as Jor-El than 1 minute of him as Zeus.
😂😂
"My son is twice the man you ever were."
I teared up when he said that. What man wouldn't want to hear his dad say that about him?
1:14 - 1:16 The stare of disgust and hatred in ZOD’s eyes right before he looks away, is a man on a mission to carry out his purpose for krypton. Only for it to end with his neck being snapped! like a pretzel stick.😩
And in the end, his body was donated for all kinds of degradation of science.
I always took that expression and turn as “What have I done? I just killed my best friend... again.”
@@richmondlandersenfells2238 Damn...
it's far deeper, and more complex emotion than mere hatred Mike
I love that look at 1:15 Jor El is long dead at his hands and he just told his image that he would murder his son. But when he erases the last trace of his old friend, it hurts him. I imagine it's the same look Magento would have if he killed Xavier.
Zod actually felt more like anti-hero than a villain. He really wasn't purely evil and had a noble goal, he wanted his race to survive.
You do realize Hitler had the same goal?
You wouldn't have bothered to argue with a ghost if you were certain you would or wanted to win.
1:13
That look of him saying goodbye to an old friend.
Twice.
Zod needed to say. "I found him. I found him! I FoUnD HIIIIM!"
Michael Shannon killed it as Zod, such a great character arc
There was a quote something like, “when a society separates its scholars from warriors, its decisions will be made by cowards and its wars will be fought by fools”
Man this is some of the greatest acting in a comic book movie I’ve ever seen
When you aggressively taskkill an uncooperative admin level program.
Snyder is the only one reason why i loved Superman, i was a Superman hater but after watching mos it changed my mind. Thank you for making man of steel is my favorite superhero movie of all time
Same here
Hands down! Zach Snyder's "Man of Steel" is the best Superman movie I have seen in my life thus far! This movie is absolutely phenomenal in my opinion! I find the story, scientific concepts, philosophical ideas, acting, directing, music, cinematography and visual effects to be just powerful! It is definitely one of my favorite movies. I would even say it is one of the top ten films so far from the 2010s decade, along with "Cloud Atlas", "Les Miserables", "Coriolanus", "The Great Gatsby", "Exodus: Gods and Kings" and "12 Years A Slave".
smit4459 definitely an amazing movie one of the best I have seen especially Michael Shannon
@hurdy gurdy and your comment is fairly shit. When I mean fairly, I mean absolutely.
smit4459 if u say this is the best then u havent seen christopher nolans batman movies
@@thewitcherking937 And your comment is fairly accurate, and when I say fairly I mean absolutely.
@@TheStraightestWhitest thank you.
Michael Shannon and russel Crowe are seriously incredibly intense in this movie basically unbeatable
Such an underrated movie. I'm primarily a Marvel fan, but man this is one of my top 3 super hero movies no doubt. Wish the DCEU would have continued producing movies like this instead of playing catch up with Marvel.
Imagine if zod succeed and a fews years later Steppenwolf comes for mother box and at the time he arrives:
-Surrounded by Kyptonians
Parademons: Sir i think we attack the wrong planet
The parademons are the New Gods' most loyal slaves. Even if a parademon would be torn off, limb by limb, or in the most brutal way, the parademon would die a proud death.
Parademon navigator: "I think our GPS is broken"
Steppenwolf: "This is the exact location we didnt want to arrive at"
This and Snyder Batman series just had it right. Had DCEU built on those foundations these movies could’ve been revolutionary. Zod literally was the villain but you could tell he was conflicted but he was going do what he had to do. Jor El and Zod made this movie for me
Shannon and Crowe have to do another project, the performance they gave together was crazy good.
You can tell Zod not having a freedom of choice when he was born had a only a purpose to fight for his people and the fact his people are his only mission to recreate his home he literally lost his friend in the process and you can tell he regrets killing jor el
Michael shannon gave us the best general zod we ever had.
Zod deleting Jor-El, Doomsday's birth, Lex communicating with Steppenwolf, Superman's resurrection,... So many things happened in that spot of the kryptonian ship. Makes you wonder what would've happened in JL2 and 3.
Don’t know why DC can’t make every movie as good as this , they’re always a hit and miss
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This truly sets the standard when it comes to live action supervillains. Looking back it's a performance unlike any other. Very well done Michael Shannon 👏
The most terrifying Zod ever brought on screen.
Shannon is just such as heavily underrated actor.
Man, that's some good acting...when Shannon kills Jor El for the second time.
0:29 - Jor-El should NOT have said that!
Well he is twice the man he is.. zod is a monster of a man he has no empathy no sense of right or wrong no means of peace among even his own kind he is just another being bent to be a souless fighting machine kal el knows better he has respect kindness and and a sense of justice the right way it should be even if zod was successful at rebirthing his kind it would be the same issue as previously debated forced will and no rights.
No because that just pissed him off, he probably could have talked it out
@@ActaNova maybe, but taunting zod like that was NOT a very good idea.
haidan mcculloch your stupid Zod was a true man cauee he fault to death to save his own world if your very mad your not gonna be the man people talk about general Zod was a real life MAN
He pressed the Kal-El button.
1:14 see his eyes, his subtle expression? He’s not happy with any of this. He’s never wanted Jor an enemy. Jor’s his people, who are his purpose. But if he sees you against his purpose then you’re an enemy to eliminate.
hands down best villian in cinema history
Better motive than thanos
@@Fallen_angel2002thanos was awesome but if U think ABT it his plans r stupid. With how fast ppl repopulate, in just a few years it'll b like half the universe never went away and resource shortage will b a problem all over again
Not a huge Superman fan but this was a great movie!
"So we can suffer through years of pain trying to adapt like your son has" I mean if you think about it, you've got an army of supermans lol
Such fantastic acting by Michael Shannon. He's not 1 dimensional like most antagonists. His final line to jorel is fucking fantastic. Zod even looks away in disappointment after destroying the jorel AI.
I WILL FIND HIM!!!
One of the best villains we've seen on screen. Russell Crowe was legendary as Jor-el. This film is a masterpiece!
Just off this movie they could have made a prequel with Zod and Jor-el.
Omg someone said it!! I have been wanting something like that for ages!!
@@aoconnor2933 it could be a reboot tv show about krypton and it is directed by zack snyder and it could surpass the avatar movie using the planet of krypton visual effects also knowing the story of how jor el became the king of krypton and the story of jor el's brother who is supergirl's father that she will be introduced in the flash movie and how this planet had a plan to create the doomsday to protect their planet and then he became a dangerous threat to them and superman will know that he has to face the real doomsday without using kryptonite because he is not cloned from general zod or any other kryptonian citizen and clark will work with supergirl and his son superboy and they will need steel to help them to defeat doomsday. The second man of steel movie that will be set after the tv show will be a masterpiece even when you have the real bald lex Luthor wanting to kill superman by using his business to bargain with other superpowered criminals to destroy superman just like kingpin and zemo.
As a MCU fan, Man of Steel is my favorite Superman movie.
0:30 That line hits deep!
props to Jor-el's stored memories and consciousness for trying to stop Zod
0:24 people after seeing the millionth "thor vs superman" debate
"I will harvest the Codex from your son's corpse, and I will rebuild Krypton atop his bones." Oh shit!
O.o
1:10 - 1:17
I like it here how it shows Zod wish it didn’t have to come to this, like he knows what he’s doing and knows morally he’s crossing something. He knew deep down Jor-El was right but he has try because it’s his duty as a soldier
1:07 Jor El goes to Brazil
Zod's suit is CGI
very well VFX done by WETA digital
the same team should come back another man of steel movie
Superhero Buzz because it's made outta real life SOILDER armour
Superhero Buzz he had to work out just to have dat own
This scene gives me chills because he basically kills him off for good this time
General Zod is a universe in himself a separate movie should be made on him. I think he is best general in the superman Multiverse .
"My son is twice the man you were."
Zod with 'the fuck did you just say?' look.
Ill never know how they created such a compelling version of Zod but dropped the ball so badly with Lex Luthor of all vilains...
Eisenbergs Lex is too quippy, talks too much, doesnt convey a man, more a college aged boy, not being able to keep up the facade of a ruthless, cold, thinker.
Watch one episode of the Superman TAS focussed on Lex Luthor and you get what I mean.
@@deadbeef576 Any non nostalgic actual criticisms?
@@ssjbroly8735 Yes
Eisenbergs Lex is too quippy, talks too much, doesnt convey a man, more a college aged boy, not being able to keep up the facade of a ruthless, cold, thinker.
See what I did?
@@deadbeef576 Again any non nostalgic arguments?
In BvS Lex quite literally had Kal el killed, and moments before had him on his knees. Not even Ben afflecks Bruce Wayne could beat him down that bad.
Oh yea *he's not the lex Luthor I know so he's AUTOMATICALLY BAD*
I apologize dude, I absolutely should've remembered the universal law must be nostalgic in Zack snyders movies or it's trash law
@@ssjbroly8735 My point still stands, Eisenberg just cant portray a real man
This was the best Superman movie. The DCEU would have been brilliant if Warner Bros had stopped trying to be the MCU and let Snyder actually focus on storytelling
Michael did an excellent job here. You can see many of his emotions as Zod - especially in the eyes, the pain, anger, regret and determination.
Shannon what a good actor . 👏
Michael Shannon is the best part of this film. My favourite track on the soundtrack is General Zod. You can really empathise with his his point of view in this movie and you can hear it through that track thanks to Hans Zimmer.
His track perfectly represents his struggle. Tbh I don’t see him as the bad guy. Just a man doing what he believes is right for HIS people.
Right, i see Jake Sully as the Kal-El of Avatar and it's the humans invading in that movie. The humans are there to do the same thing Zod was trying to do.
Michael Shannon set the bar so high up for DC villains that no other baddies have even come close to Zod, not only was he a fantastic villain but he was a villain with a purpose unlike the other ones that just want to kill and destroy stuff just because they can, Faora was fantastic as well.
One of the best comicbook movie villains of all time.
I just realized that if they decided to adapt to Earth, they would have the same potential to gaining Superman's abilities without the added side-effect of being weakened by Kryptonite like Kal-El. They will still be vulnerable to it, but not severely weakened to exposure like Superman.
This movie would’ve been absolute perfection with about 15 minutes more footage mainly showing Zod and making him a bit more “lovable/hate to love”, if that makes sense. The actor is amazing and I think everyone would’ve enjoyed seeing him more.
This movie aged so well. A shame how low it was received when it was first released.
1:13 that little wince tells SO much
Suffer? You get to fly and shit
Good acting, you could see the emotion even when ridding himself of Jor-El
U know if Kryptonians asked nicely, Humans would have spared an island or two for them thrive and adapt. It wasn't like humans were hostile to begin with and they both look alike and converse with each other. Zod is just crazy
You gotta remember that humans are Known for destroying things out of fear. They would most likely start A-war with the kryptonians because they are afraid of what they can.
Yeah, because if there is one thing humans are known for, it's giving refuge to people different from them
@@polarisgemini52 LMAO THE SHADE
@@polarisgemini52 I mean yeah we don't have the best track record with treatment of people we see as different, and that's just with petty human differences not a literal alien species with superpowers, but Zod could have at least tried something else before immediately deciding on genocide.
The myriad of emotions conveyed in the last remaining seconds of this scene were absolute peak.
Zod, a Kryptonian warrior and general has always had to shoulder the burden of his far-reaching decisions.
He doesn't have the luxury of second-guessing himself. His decisions, in his mind, were the best course of action to take.
Here and now, General Zod's old friend and nemesis, Jor-el, has planted within him the seeds of doubt, anger, and heartbreak.
Doubt about the correct course of action to take with the Terraforming of the Earth. Anger at the very idea of coexisting with Humanity in their cities of squalor. Heartbreak over the fact that he had to kill, for the second time, another Kryptonian he respected and used to consider a friend.
I love Snyders DC movies cause there is actual depth to the characters and not constantly trying to make the audience. The soundtrack in MoS , BvS and ZSJL is better than anything in Marvel's or later DC movies