Toyota Prius vs. VW Jetta TDI Diesel | Comparison Test | Edmunds.com
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- Here we have the 2009 Toyota Prius gasoline-electric hybrid, embodying up-to-the-minute fuel-sipping methods and machinery intended to take us immaculately into a spotless future. In the other lane, the newly introduced 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI turbodiesel, a rolling relic of tried-and-true yester-tech locomotion (upon whose sooty breath the Industrial Revolution itself was built) that has been remastered, reengineered and reintroduced to be meaner, cleaner and more efficient than ever.
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I sold my 2005 Jetta TDI with 114,000 miles on it last summer and got a 2013 Passat TDI SEL, with the DSG trans. The 05 sold for $10,000! That shows that the value stays up with a VW TDI over a gas car! The Passat and my other car, a 2011 red Jetta TDI are both great on fuel milage! I have gotten 52 MPG on both, one from Nashville TN to norther IN in the Jetta 6 speed manual. Then I got 54.3 MPG on the Passat from St Louis to Norther IN. I averaged 49.5 from FL and back with 2500 miles with the Jetta! The Passat has averaged 46.6 MPG on 3800 miles so far! Both are great riding cars and have lots of toque. I can get to 80 MPH in a flash with either if needed! Some talk about the “hard” plastic of the dash, I do not know about you, but I don’t often caress the dash and feel that it is cheap! Instead I am watching my MPG average and totally enjoying it.
I have had VW diesels since 1980 and I am now getting better fuel milage and better performance and horse power with these newer cars and engines. I have had very little trouble with these engines as long as I do the proper care the 9 VW diesels that I have owned. The 05 Jetta was the first car I let go before it went over 200,000 miles. One went 325,000 before the rear axle rusted off!!! So, for my money, I think that a VW TDI in any form is well worth the money!!!
Don't worry about the price. Just because the media says your car is worthless doesn't mean a thing. Tdi has proven itself for many years and they will hold their value. I want a 6 speed manual Passat. It's the best mpg car you can get in that size of sedans. Tdi all the way! Plug you can get more performance and mpg with some fun mods. Can't do anything with an ugly Prius.
just got my 2000 TDI back up and running. City average is 44mpg. Highway has gotten into the high 50's on long trips. Not to mention greatest interiors ever in these cars.
Only 40 MPG for the Jetta? A VW 1.9TDI get's 47...
in my opinion , Ethanol and Biodiesel are the Future
Why do you people compare a Prius which excels in the city to a Jetta TDI which excels on a highway ?
because everyone drives mixed driving. Its the average that matters
I am happy to see you realizing people buy cars in other countries too, the car market is not just US. Some consumers are just easier to manipulate through marketing. I am sure the Chinese, the Brazilians, the Russians love your Prius.
One important point is to consider the type of driving you do. The Prius is better in urban driving with lots of stop-and-go that makes use of the regenerative braking. The Jetta TDI is super-efficient on the highway. My '02 Jetta TDI gets 55 MPG running on biodiesel going 55-60 MPH average on the highway.
By the way, it is very refreshing to see that there is a diesel owner that doesn't hate hybrids. If you read the post that people put, all diesel fans and owners hate hybrids while hybrid owners don't hate diesels. They say things that aren't true and make things up. I think diesel engines have come along way. I read that Acura (my favorite car maker) was going to give buyers the opinion of a diesel engine they were developing, but it was scrapped because the world's economy crashed.
My brother drivers the Polo 1.9 TDI coupe and its amazing :)
you are 100% correct, what alot of people don't realize is that depending on what test you get the results will vary. One of the reasons for this as stated earlier is than for one test the standard gasoline engine may not be running 100% of the time giving inaccurate readings. Both vehicles are very clean in relation to today's vehicles, each have their benefit and negatives.
This didnt aged very well
Just bought a '09 Jetta TDI..amazing car, great luxury. And as far as gas being cheaper? Right now diesal is 2.19gal while gas is 2.39..and I just drove 800 miles and got 47 MPG. Great car..a must for someone looking to save money on fuel but wants a nice, luxurious car.
had a TDI now a Prius. Prius much better in real life. no idle ,no annoying sound ,smooth automatic ,no dual mass flywheel and dsg clutch problems. no injector and turbo issues ,fault codes. most real life driving is about red light to red light and hybrids will always be the king there. only problem is the catalytic converter theft, that's a worldwide issue
A very thorough overview of two cars with possibilities for people wanting to use less non-renewable resources. A pair of issues:
1. Near the end, the greater cargo room in the hatchback Prius is mentioned. The VW Jetta comes in a Jetta Wagon hatchback configuration at the same price and performance, so that option is there for people who want it.
2. An older VW diesel can burn up to 100% biodiesel (up to 5% blend for clean diesel 2009+ models), bringing oil use to zero if desired.
Yes and this is why we also need to build fully electric cars that don't depend on outside sources. But developing this is evolutionary which is why we currently have hybrids.
i love that with touring package on the prius you get sat nav & a rear camera...great options for prius people who don't know where they're going or where they've been. it should park itself like the lexus for those who can't manage to park their car too.
I have come to love my wife's 2007 Prius. It gives you everything but looks and overall speed (top speed 108). It has a lot of space inside, very nice 500 watt DSP sound system, more safety and tech features then I have ever seen in a car this size, awesome in the snow and ice and has the smoothest quietest ride ever in a small car. Oh yeah and it gets my wife 53.4mpg. The new one is even bigger, has more power, more features, and more refined then hers. I almost forgot that it gets better mpgs.
My GF has an '06 TDI Jetta. Day in day out....44mpg...pushes on 50mpg on highway trips. The car is great.
You watched Top Gear didn't you. That's where I saw it from. That test between the Prius and the M3.
furley523 posted this; "I have an 06 TDI; the services are expensive!"
The service at VW costs $140 mainly because the the TDI uses a diesel specific full synthetic oil (505.00). You change the oil every 10,000 miles. On the other hand the Prius cost $20 for an oil change and you change it between 5,000-7,000 miles.
I love when people freak out about 30mpg. Drive an old Honda! i happily drive a 1987 Accord. It has a carburated 2.0l and a 5 speed, and going from Portland to Seattle once, I achieved an average of 42MPG on one tank, as well as usually getting 27 or so mpg in town, its a very satisfying $1500 car.
I was doing 150 one night years ago, when I saw two State Troopers on the side of the highway. I slammed on the brakes, and went by them doing 65mph. Alas, it was to late. They pulled out and pulled me over. They asked if I was drinking, I said hell no. I had slowed down, but not enough in time. They clocked me doing 105. They arrested me. I paid $500 to get out just a few hours later, and my license was suspended for 3 months. In 20 years of driving like that, it was the only time I got caught.
My wife has gotten 55 mpg over the last 6,000 plus miles without even trying. I reset it after that because to tell you the truth, when you get mileage like that, you stop caring. A year ago when gas cost more then milk, I checked to see what I was getting driving her 2007 Prius to work, since I stopped driving my RL because of high fuel cost. I was getting between 66.5 - 69.7 mpg, on my 30 mile round tips to work and back. The Jetta TDI and Prius are great at not using to much fuel.
I have a 2006 TDI like in the video. 100K on it and still like new. I get 600 miles (1000km) per tank every time. It gets 43 mpg no matter how hard I drive it. If I baby it, I get 50. I drive it in minus 30 weather and snow. The only drawback is that VW dealers and mechanics are more difficult to find.
The Prius starts at 26.000, i bought the Full Extra Leather & Navi for 28.000 Eur. Traction Control along with ABS & Brake assist, DTS, VSC and the Auto Brake Power distribution cannot be switched off in a Prius but are unbelievably functional. As of personal experience, I have driven in the Nordschleife in Nürburg (Nürburgring) and am very proud of my 11:15.7 in a rainy day :D could easily overtake FWD cars in the bends because i had much more entry speed than a Bora, Passat and an A class
It is pretty cool VW can do that without AdBlue. What still amazes me though is that as efficient as the Jetta TDI is, it is not even close the the Prius numbers in the city. This shows the clear benefits of the Prius. In fact, no one else is even close to the Prius MPG in the city, not even other hybrids.
The Jetta TDI it's a awesome car, i'm on my 8th month of ownership and is the best car i ever owned, and i owned models from top brands like Mercedes and BMW, none could deliver the fun of driving like the jetta. It's powerfull, good handling awesome economy plus a DSG gearbox. What a great car. it's not a luxury car, it'snot a sports car but you do feel good driving it i think it's what it counts.
Yes, wikipedia, the most accurate source of information on the internet. Driving a diesel is much better than it used to be, with clean diesel makes them run cleaner and break down much less often. In an older higher-sulfur diesel engine, yes, you would be right.
I have a 02 jetta tdi and its has 130k miles on it. It drives like the day I bought it still most of my problems have been very minor. It has a strong engine and it gets 44mpg with auto trans. I thought about a prius but Jetta is so much more comfortable and handles a lot better.
Sale number shows how reliable they are. Prius are still the most reliable car with proven statistics number but vw tdi are not bad either. Just not better.
as much as i hate my dad's prius....it's a great car 215,xxx miles and still running strong, never had to replace anything besides oil & filters as well as 1 sensor. and he only paid 23k brand new and i find it quite comfortable
Yes. There was a similar test on top gear, but around the track. The test done by one car magazine in my country did the test on public roads.
Just picked up a '10 Jetta Sportwagen. It's stellar!!
1986 VW Golf, 400,000+ miles. Clutch replaced 30,000 miles ago (it was the original clutch, too). 50MPG on average since new. three owners in its time, each did standard upkeep. Car drives like new for being so old.
2006 Jetta TDI, 770mi out of a tank (driving across the state of TN from NC)... no sweat. 49mpg highway, 42mpg city.
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD (2.8L Diesel)... 28MPG highway, 23 city 2WD, 21.4MPG 4x4 city... 400-550mi range on a tank + 5000LB towing capacity
Diesel = better. period.
just chose a 2012 Jetta TDI over the Prius. SO GLAD I DID IT!
I know you don't realize this, but the 2004-2009 Prius, has twin reversible electric motors, with a max of 10,000rpm, that make 67hp & 295 lbs torque, that is powered by a 500 volt electric battery.
any 09 owners? how reliable have they been going on 4 years?
As I tell everybody, don't say you hate a car, don't talk about the car, even if you think you know about it. Go out and drive one! Go to your dealer and ask for a test drive, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to let you drive one for a few hours. Don't listen to what other people think, what matters most is what YOU think and how YOU like the car. Quite frankly, everyone who owns a Prius loves them. I've never talked to a Prius or hybrid car driver who hated their car.
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@JohnCBriggs Most TDI users (09 and 10) get roughly 38 city, 44 highway. The problem is that it takes about 20,000 miles to break in the engine. As long as 60,000 miles if you don't push the engine during the first 5k miles. Once broken in, the engine makes another 3-4 mpg more than when it was new. Engine compression also increases.
If VW & Toyota could work together to make a TDI Diesel Hybrid car, they should be able to build an even more efficient car. Since both TDI diesel and electric motor generate more torque than a similar sized gas engine, the end product should be a blast to drive.
the new insight system works similar to the Prius. Originally the honda was going to run as you stated, but Honda tweaked it so as to allow the engine to completely shut down and run on battery alone at points (just like the prius)
My brother is getting 60MPG from a 1.9 TDI Seat Toledo - and its 8 years old!
I have learned a lot about the Jetta TDI posting back and forth with people. I think it is a very nice looking car that is great on fuel. I wouldn't buy one, but that's not because I don't like it. I'm not in the market for a new car anyway and won't be for a very long time. My wife has a 2007 Prius and loves all the high tech features and gets 55mpg. As for me, I own a 2006 Acura RL, which cruses at 120mph and has a top speed of just under 160. If I were to buy a diesel, it would be a BMW 335d.
The 2009-2010 Jetta TDI and the 2010 Golf are 50 State emissions compliant without Adblue after treatement. Your probably wondering how vw does this. Well, with a fancy exhaust. It includes and Oxidation Catalyatic converter, a particulate filter, a Nitrogen Oxide Catalytic converter, and an H2S catalytic converter. I'm sure there must be a you tube video that explains the process but i'd be more than happy to answer any questions about the new 2.0 TDI CR engine.
City/Hwy/Combined
Prius 2010 - 51/48/50
Prius 2004 - 48/45/46
Insight 2010 - 40/43/41
Fusion 2010- 41/36/39
HS 250 2010- 35/34/35
Jetta Tdi 2010- 30/42/34
Fit 2009- 28/35/31
RX 450h 2010- 32/28/30
Touareg TDI 2010-18/25/20
Veyron 2010- 8/14/10
They all use very little gas! Pick the one you like the best, and don't hate the rest!
733 mile test done in conditions (smooth highway driving) that most benefit the TDI by VW to discredit the Prius, revealed some interesting numbers...
CO2 Emitted:
'10 Jetta TDI: 146.37kg
'04 Prius: 137.05kg
CO Emitted:
'10 Jetta TDI: 293.2g
'04 Prius: 73.3g
NOx Emitted:
'10 Jetta TDI: 36.65g
'04 Prius: 7.33g
all i can think of is Jeff Dunham's 'achmed' "NO, but I saw blue Prius !" lol
The TDI ( jetta and golf) in particular do not have Adblue, and the maintenance is not more than the prius, the oil change intervals are 15,000 km on TDI vs 5,000 on prius.
Btw, I keep giving you a thumbs up but someone keeps minusing it. really mature i know
I drive a tdi gets me 38 average in town only driving and 45 to 48 mpg highway with a automatic transmission. I can work on it myself and not get shocked. car looks way better than a Prius too. Prius is ugly. The new diesel cars burn 20% cleaner than the same sized gas engines. I had a vw golf go 450,000 miles and still running when I sold it. You can tune a tdi to preform even better. I will stick with diesel.
+HappyListener50 Prius can kiss my ass! you have a gas engine and electric motor. Batteries and gas pollution.
+HappyListener50 If Prius was so great why do more people drive vw diesels? Only rich assholes can afford a prius with a stick up their butt thinking they are saving the world but the truth is your not. You still burn gasoline and on top of that you have batteries with very harmful acid plug everything plastic is made from oil. Vw is keeping max horse power and fuel economy by cheating on emissions. Epa has too much control over the market not allowing vw to bring over the lupo which is a diesel car that gets 100+ mpg.
+TESLA CARS Still can't argue a Passat TDI going 1200 miles on one tank of fuel vs a Tesla going 215 mile on one charge. Tesla is a lot more expensive too.
Benjamin Hartshorn I was not talking about Tesla, but because you mentioned it I will tell you that Tesla goes 260-290 FREE Supercharger miles while Passat uses expensive diesel! Tesla Model 3 will murder German cars, especially VW.
+TESLA CARS Tesla 3 isn't proven yet and I do like Tesla but there have to get better with charging stations and once you have more electric cars on the market it will start costing more for electricity. Diesel here is cheaper than regular gas and the price of a used Passat is far cheaper than a Tesla. You can buy a lot of diesel with the price difference between a Tesla and a Tdi Passat. My truck goes further on fuel than a Tesla does on a charge.
2010 Models
VW Jetta 2.5: 5 cyl, 2.5 Liter Regular Gasoline - 25mpg
VW Jetta 2.0: 4 cyl, 2.0 Liter Premium Gasoline - 27mpg
Lexus RX 450h: V-6, 3.5 Liter Hybrid Reg. Gas - 30mpg
VW Jetta TDI: 4 cyl, 2.0 Liter Turbo Diesel - 34mpg
Lexus HS 250: 4 cyl, 2.4 Liter Hybrid Reg. Gas - 35mpg
Honda Insight: 4 cyl, 1.3 Liter Hybrid Reg. Gas - 41mpg
Toyota Prius: 4 cyl, 1.8 Liter Hybrid Reg. Gas - 50mpg
It sounds to me like this video is based more on biased opinions. I've had 4 Prius's since 2001 and I wouldn't have any other car. I happened to LIKE the interior, handling, and how quiet it is. And they act like the 0-60 time is a huge difference, but it was like 1 second different. Neither car is going to win any races at the local drag strip. Also the Prius lasts to 200,000 or more miles with no mechanical problems because they are built very well. Can VW say that?
Still, very impressive what they can do with a Diesel these days. Now if they can make a Diesel Hybrid we will really have something.
One of the reasons for increased Nox is the higher burn temperature caused by the direct injection in the tdi. If you compare the Nox in the TDI to a gasoline direct injection vehicle, i.e. 2.0T(audi) you will see that the Nox are really not that high. Even the equinox which uses direct injection suffers from increased Nox compared to a normal gasoline engine.
and with the new Cup Street Edition coming out probably next year. the Jetta is looking like a great buy
City/Hwy/Combined
Prius 2010 - 51/48/50
Prius 2004 - 48/45/46
Insight 2010 - 40/43/41
HS 250 - 35/34/35
Jetta Tdi 2009 - 29/40/33
Fit 2009- 27/33/30
Of course, but, in the end, we do want electrical cars, since it doesn't have to require and run out of some sort of fuel. For now, it would be more pragmatic for just the gas engine, whether from a hybrid or non-hybrid, to be replaced by a diesel. Unfortunately demand is not high enough to invite competition but it is an evolutionary transition.
The U.S. gallon has 128 ounces in it, while Imperial gallon contains 160 ounces. That means that the miles per gallons will be rated higher in Europe, simply because there is way more fuel per gallon. Thats why cars in Europe seem to get better gas mileage and have a higher rating.
I just want a car that's cheap, no frills, no pollution and that it just takes me from A to B. I don't care what it looks like, or name or brand.
I guess it's my good old bicycle.
After 10k miles sold my Prius, got a Jetta Sportwagen TDI. The Prius is nice enough loaded but comfortable and exciting it's not. As for millage, I've gotten 40mpg but more often then not it's 33 to 35mpg (live in a hilly area) and I can get that with a gasser. Main reason I got rid of it is that I never felt safe driving it in bad weather. A little snow, some heavy rain and you better pray you don't have to make an emergency move. The TDI is new so it's a honymoon but so far a great car.
Toyota states that the (NiMH) battery packs used in all Prius models are expected to last the life of the car. Supporting this are first- and second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly traveled more than 250,000 miles and still going without suffering any battery problems.
@12VCTD you newer have to change the batteries
They forgot to tell you The MPG of jetta in the city where you do most of your driving
I own a 25 year old 1985 VW golf diesel that gets a solid 50MPG highway- FIngers crossed subaru brings there 2011 Legacy boxer diesel to the states!
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. Where do you get the data on the CO emissions? The EPA data shows only CO2 and "Smog forming" pollution for which the Prius is much better.
I concur. Before nineties, when everything was made in Germany, VWs used to be bulletproof.
Because it is not needed.
With an electric water pump, the Prius engine is the first production engine that requires no accessory belts which also further improves fuel economy.
The Toyota Prius doesn't have a single belt under it's hood. The A/C is electric, so it can be used without any loss of power or mpg.
Yes, there is an engine. Actually, there are two. A 1.8-liter four-cylinder with 98 hp/105 lb-ft plus an electric motor with 80 hp/153 lb-ft torque, powered by a 201 volt battery.
I meant to say...
The 2010 Prius electric motor alone, has a power output of; 80 hp/153 lb-ft torque, from the 210 Volt Battery, and weighs about 400+ pounds less!
dont' forget the faulty power steering lines in the camry and the faulty steering in corollas.
It is. A lot of people are going back to gassers because the diesels dont get as much mileage and aren't as reliable as the old ones.
I have a tdi and when I am driving aggressively, I still get roughly 45 mpg. driving carefully, the highest I have seen is 87 mpg. I can drive through multiple states on one tank (Not talking those small east coast states either)
I love diesel so much. Reason why: 1983 Mercedes 300D. Tried and true 30+ mpg average.
Toyota states not one Prius has required a battery replacement due to malfunction or "wearing out." Toyota further states that the (NiMH) battery packs used in all Prius models are expected to last the life of the car. Supporting this are first- and second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems. On the east coast diesel is $2.96 and 87 is $2.05.
Every car has weaknesses. Every car has positives. The way this review is being presented, it is as though the TDI is the holy grail, presenting all of the TDI's positives, and all of the Prius' weaknesses. To what extent are speed, fun factor and excitement important in day-to-day commutes from home to work to the grocery store and back to home? I don't know about you, but if I wanted speed, fun factor and excitement, I'd get a Ferrari Enzo.
City/Hwy/Combined
Prius 2010 - 51/48/50
Prius 2004 - 48/45/46
Insight 2010 - 40/43/41
Jetta Tdi 2009 - 29/40/33
Fit 2009- 27/33/30
And the Prius has Bluetooth, Keyless entry, 500 watt DSP sound system and keeps the car from getting hot in the parking lot while you shop in the summer time, and the smoothest quitest car for the money.
Oh, yeah and a ratied 50mpgs..
In lamens terms, it would cost ($2.70per gallon) you right now, only $21.00 to go 500 miles!
Both fuel efficient cars, but if you take a look back during the 80's and 90's, the VW diesels have seen upwards 60 miles to the gallon. I attest to this, though many would argue.
Then again I attest to 2 gallons per quarter mile at over 180 mph.......
I see . . . Good point. Although me thinks TDI awd could still run the 36 - 40mpg range but not into the 50's like the FWD. I'd be happy with a front-wheel based "4-wheel drive".
Either way, my next vehicle will definitely be the VW TDI.
sspope: the powertrain is still assembled in Germany.
The actual piecing together is done in Slovenia. In American Jettas, it is done in Mexico.
Actually, the production process on VW is still as German as ever. Look up the plant in Dresden. It will floor you...
Sometimes. Currently diesel is trending about 5-10% less than gasoline in most areas. Gasoline and diesel fuel are taxed equally in the US, unlike other countries which give a tax advantage to diesel.
@bjhorton2005 being cleaner then a hammer is such an achievement
your looking at the 2.0 us version, vw has a 1.6 5speed with Bluemotion technology, available in europe, ofcoarse, they love their diesels
CHILL OUT!! To much BS comments by 'know it all's'
Just go down to the vw dealership and test drive a 2009 TDI. Then come back here and comment,OK! I drove a 2009 TDI with a 6speed dsg the other day and this car kicks ass! You can also chip it for 170hp and 280ft.lbs.of torque.Then it really kicks ass! Try it,you will like it!
Month of Oct. 2009
Prius - 14,569 sold
Jetta TDI - 1,830
very true. Also the american mindset of diesels since the 80's has been that diesel's are dirty, slow, and noisy. Which in fact the complete opposite. I do hope to see diesel hybrids in the future U.S. car market. (fingers crossed)
To all the Diesel haters... Ever heard of a Diesel Particulate Filter?
This car comes with one, and so do many modern diesels.
So don't expect a trail of black spoke behind you... Those times are gone.
On that note, I want to say that the Prius, and all other hybrids have proven worthy. The batteries in them last a lifetime, (a man in Canada exceeded 400,000mi in a 2001 Prius with the original battery and no major repairs.) Years of hybrid car ownership from Americans (11 years) proves that hybrid powered cars add a genuine alternative to the traditional gasoline and diesel powered vehicles. There are tons of different hybrid models out now. Go take one for a test drive, you'll be surprised.(:
Prius gas engine is a 1.8 Liter with 98 hp @ 5200 rpm, 105 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm, electric motor 80 hp, 153 lb.-ft. Hybrid System Net Power 134 hp and Toyota never gives the torque but it is somewhere over 200 lb.-ft. The numbers you posted are from the first Prius they made over 11 years ago.
also, it seems like the prius epa numbers are hirer than i ever hear of people getting in the real world, where as the vw diesel has been well known for getting 50mpg since 1977 when they were first introduced
yes, but the TDI with the appropriate modifications can run on vegetable oil which is a biofuel.
I'm not talking about a tuner car, you can tune a Chevette to do the same thing. The electric motor alone in the second Gen Prius puts out 295 ft/lbs of torque stock. As for your go out and buy the cheapest POS you can find... Well you could say the same thing about the Jetta TDI since it cost the same as the Prius, but its rated 16mpg less too. I think the Jetta is a nice car, I'm just not a hater.
2010 Prius 50mpg
2010 HS 250 35mpg
2010 Jetta TDI 34mpg
2010 Fit 33mpg
Right, well not everyone reading this has been as reserved and good-natured as you.
Your right EPA are good for comparing across the board, but they really are only good for comparing vehicles of the same fuel type. Because Diesels run on a denser fuel it's a mute comparison. Also as mentioned before, EPA MPG testing consists of tests involving alot of stop and go. Even the hwy driving has stop and go, this is significantely advantageous to any hybrid as it allows the battery to regen. I'm sure u know Diesel is most at home on the hwy, steady driving and not stop and go.
After all, todays real mpg is still disappointing. I managed to get 38,2 miles to the gallon with a heavily loaded 1990 BMW 318is with wide tires, two people driving back from the Cote d'Azur back to Germany. Of course, we tried hard but still...
The Prius and Jetta TDi have the same starting price of $22k.
Toyota states not one Prius has required a battery replacement due to malfunction or "wearing out." Toyota further states that the (NiMH) battery packs used in all Prius models are expected to last the life of? the car. Supporting this are first- and second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly traveled more than 250,000 miles without suffering any battery problems.
@1impalaman The 177 lb/ft number is for my 05 TDI. Not the newer one I mentioned earlier.
I don't know the manufacturing differences between gasoline and diesel, but I'd think that would have something to do with it
Note down that you have to clean a DPF after 3 years. If not, then you can go biodiesel. It can be produced from waste cooking oil found in fast food chains and restaurants.
and not to mention, vw's are a blast to drive
if you want acurate emissions specifications and "data" as you say, go to hybridcarsdotcom/calculator
replace the dot with a period. There's a calculator there and it shows real emissions specifications. You are right the jetta does put out more Nox and Carbon Dioxide.
But the jetta puts out significantly less Carbon monoxide and nearly the same particulate. Also, this is based on a 34 mpg jetta, most real life Tdi's get closer to 45-50 while the prius can get less than the 50 it's rated at
man, i know what you mean, the jetta 1.9TDI is very good, has good acceleration even "eats" not alot of fuel when pushing the pedal to the metal cuz of the electronic gas pedal. i also have one :D mine is a european jetta. as i said very good car !!!!
Except for the engine, and some exhaust stuff in the modern clean diesel vehicles, everything else is the same as in any other vehicle. Most of the repairs are not diesel-specific, and can be done at most shops. Diesel engines also rarely break, since they are very durable.