Someone who understands the importance of The God's oneness in authority, and His words as sole authority (especially for salvation), will always be better than someone who ascribes partners to The God and His words, and lives ignorantly off of conjecture.
Lorenzo Lamas The Quran is complete..Sunnah is the eye-witnessed and heard narrations of the Sahabas that saw and heard Muhammad pbuh's saying,Actions, Approvals and Disapprovals!.. Widespread Chain Narrations are Sound and strong authenricated ones. Qurani's are rejecting even strong Hadeeths .
I'm a sunni but this kind of argument is not a good way of going about it. "Do you think you're better than bukhari" isn't going to convince anyone. It's just an emotional plea.
'Perhaps he could have responded with: Why do YOU think Bukhari is 'better'. because he allegedly collected (alleged) rumors? ' Does collecting rumors/hearsay and churning them out, turn someone into a 'scholar'? If one has never met/heard/observed the actual primary subject of your 'scholarly' work or even its like-minded companion-successors, how does one become an 'expert' on the subject?
Especially since being better than Bukhari is the easiest thing in the world to do, as he collected multiple hadith attacking the character of the prophet and even Allah.
God commands the believers to obey God and obey the messenger, but God also makes sure that the obedience to the messenger is linked to obeying the message he delivered and nothing else. Obeying the messenger does not mean that the messenger issued additional teachings outside of the Quran. The confirmation that obeying the messenger is linked to obeying the message he delivered (the Quran) is given in the following verse: Obey God and obey the messenger. If you shall turn away then the sole duty of the messenger is the clear delivery (of God's message). 64:12 The obedience to the messenger and the deliverance of the Quran are linked in the same verse. For more details on the meaning of "obey the messenger"
I do not appreciate the newly introduced phrase of Quranist as if its a negative term. A person who believes in the holy quran and follows its guidance is a Muslim by all means. Its inappropriate to write Muslim vs Quranist.
Burhan Hashmi Exactly ... like when a Muslim says to me "ah! I see! so you're a Quranist!!!" I say "Yeah ... of course ... what are you then? A Bible-ist!?!"
وَإِن تُطِعْ أَكْثَرَ مَن فِي الْأَرْضِ يُضِلُّوكَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ۚ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَخْرُصُونَ - 6:116 And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie.
+RPNDLEADERSDOTCOM Africanuniondiasporadotorg: if you are claim to be a muslim, have you circumcised? majority of the inkarussunnah answer: "Yes i have".. but why? don't you realize, there is no circumcision obligation/command mention on Qur'an. that's why, your alias name is "Skin Surplus People".
+TECH Info: wait.. wait.. why do you "inkarussunnah" always think that we "Qur'anist Hadeethist" reject the Qur'an? ------ due to we believe and obey this verse: [QS 45:6] تِلْكَ آيَاتُ اللَّهِ نَتْلُوهَا عَلَيْكَ بِالْحَقِّ فَبِأَيِّ حَدِيثٍ بَعْدَ اللَّهِ وَآيَاتِهِ يُؤْمِنُونَ These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement after Allah and His verses will they believe? ------ so we try to fulfill this obligation: [QS 3:31] قل إن كنتم تحبون الله فاتبعوني يحببكم الله ويغفر لكم ذنوبكم والله غفور رحيم Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah, then follow me (follow Rasulullah), [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." ------ by following hadeeth or sunnah from Rasulullah. btw, how about you to obey & fulfill those obligations (those verses)? :-D
so, for us: Qur'an is an obligation that we must fulfill, while hadeeth or sunnah from Rasulullah is a necessity in order to fulfill the obligation of the Qur'an. clear enough for you "oo .. inkarussunnah" ?
I've said this many times. Sunnis method of authentication are hafs & isnads (Arabian culture), Quranist method of authentication are "lack of errors & contradictions" (human culture). It's obvious which method is more logical & to top it off the Quran, which both parties swear is the " word of God", also advocates "lack of errors & contradictions" as the only method for authenticating. Any Sunni that claims we are obligated to follow hadith is forcing us to accept an Arabian authentication method over a much better one, which just so happens to be ordained by their own Deity. Could the answer be any more clear?
Abdul S. all you have just said is totally unrelated to the core subject of this discussion. I do not authenticate Quran as divine literature via "chains of narrations" as Sunni's do. What justification do YOU have to use that method of justification other than your, or your ijma's, "whims & fancies"? I authenticate the Quran's claim to divinity because of it's lack of contradictions. My justification does not just come from my "whims & fancies" it also comes from the very book you claim is divine. If you object to my reasoning then you are also objecting to Allah's reasoning as well, for the Quran also tells us to authenticate it's divinity simply look for contradictions. So tell me brother, exactly who is following"whims & fancies"? It's nothing more than downright bullying to force someone to accept hadith based on your own authentication method. I'm very content using the authentication method the Quran has provided me with as it seems quite logical. If you are satisfied with your Ijma's authentication methods then surely you must think your Ijma has better insight than the very book they claim is from God. The cart does not usually lead the horse my friend, but we'll make an exception on behalf of all Sunni's the world over ok? Your Ijma authenticates the books that authenticates them. Can you not see the Irony?
@@celestialknight2339 it calls my attention you are judging him too. Also you are not free of sin and haven't achieved Jenna jet. Rise argument with your brother. Thou "perhaps you think you know better than him". Have you ever considered if Allah favors him instead at the end of your dispute?
@@shanemahabirsingh7215 إِنَّآ أَنزَلۡنَٰهُ قُرۡءَٰنًا عَرَبِيّٗا لَّعَلَّكُمۡ تَعۡقِلُونَ (Sahih International) Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand. -Sura Yusuf, Ayah 2
@@SJ-yd6zi I have no objection to that. The problem is that the Arabic language is not slave to the Arabian people. When the Qur'an is translated without hadeeth bias it confirms the quranist perspective. The Arabian culture should not dictate the way the Qur'an is translated. All Hadeeth followers believe that only the early Arabians post Bukhari has any authority to translate Qur'an. Yet the Arabic language existed prior to Quranic revelation so how can they claim authority over a language that existed long before they did? There is no verse of Qur'an that posits a system of belief dictated by hadeeth and it fully emphasises there is no other hadeeth that should be sought out for religious guidance. yet still they follow these hadeeth more determinedly than the very Qur'an itself. An instruction to obey a Messenger is an instruction to follow a Person. it is common sense. How did they take this to mean follow the assumed sayings of this person written by men over 200 years after his death. That's a huge jump which requires a lot of mental gymnastics and the only way they can justify it is not with logic but rather telling you that the biased Arabian Arabic is the only Arabic we need.
An English translation of the Quran - 6:114 "Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?" Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with the truth; so do not be of those who have doubt. "oh wait bukhari & co need to write their own books 300+/- years later to complete the Quran.."
Bukhari was not the first person to write hadiths. Rather, he merely collected all the Sahih hadiths and put them together. Before Buhari, there was imam Malik, Imam ahmed and others who's books are widely used. The problem with quranists is that they haven't studied the hadith sciences. The muhaddiths don't just blindly follow bukhari, or any hadith compilers for this matter, rather they analyse the sanad. Like I said, learn about hadith science.
I’m not better than Bukhari.. But I’m sure Bukhari is not God. He wasn’t even born when Allah sends down his Quran. I will follow Allah alone with his Quran (Message). Protected from corruption and contradiction.
bro read the English translation of the Qur'an by 'Sam Gerrans'. it is not the ritual of bowing and prostration, read the Qur'an to understand what Allah is saying, Visit the site of 'Quran Centric' what is salaah in the Qur'an, and read the book 'will you not reason' by said Mirza. Seek Allah's Mercy, guidance and ask for knowledge.
The sad part is the guy with the beard quoted nothing but man Mande Hadiths while the guy who defended Allah quoted nothing but the Quran. Who is misguided here? The guy with the beard kept his testimony with bukhri while the man without beard kept his testimony with Allah
@Thora Adam Your question on if you would rather quote from your own heart about the quran or from bukhari is irrelevant. Bukhari isnt quoting anything from the quran. The whole argument in the video is about Hadith being contradictory to the quran, and that bukhari was a person, who was prone to making mistakes, and the authenticity of hadith. That is what they are discussing in the video. Hope this helps.
وَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ وَٱلدَّوَآبِّ وَٱلۡأَنۡعَٰمِ مُخۡتَلِفٌ أَلۡوَٰنُهُۥ كَذَٰلِكَۗ إِنَّمَا يَخۡشَى ٱللَّهَ مِنۡ عِبَادِهِ ٱلۡعُلَمَٰٓؤُاْۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَزِيزٌ غَفُورٌ (Sahih International) And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah, from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving. -Sura Fatir, Ayah 28 Allah uses the word 'ulama'. And we dont believe in following the scholars blindly, we look at the proofs that they give for whatever they say. The people who claim to be 'Quran only' and one of the least educated people when it comes to Quran. Most, if not all of them, rely on translations, which in turn rely on hadiths.
- Prophet Muhammad himself commanded his people not to write his hadith, this is documented in the collection of 'Muslim' and other books: "Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7147)
rob emmanuel: You came up with a correct answer when you quoted this hadith from Muslim ( sorry, i will not call it Sahih or Authentic) but these hadiths lovers are brainwashed up to a limit that they will come up with a vague argument that this prohibition was for a limited time and once the Quran was complete; the prohibition order was withdrawn. I will simply ask them to turn to Surah Al Furqan, 25:30. when on the day of Judgment prophet will say to Allah that my people had ABANDONED QURAN. He will not say that Quran and my Sunah or Quran and Hadith and my Sunah.
Some hadith scholars tried to imply that Muhammed changed his view about writing the hadiths. However, the following hadith, which was reported 30 years after the death of the Prophet, confirms that Prophet Muhammed never authorised the writing of the hadiths after he instructed his followers not to write anything other than the Quran. (2) From Ibn Hanbal; Zayd Ibn Thabit (The Prophet's closest revelation writer) visited the Khalifa Mu'aawiyah (more than 30 years after the Prophet's death), and told him a story about the Prophet. Mu'aawiyah liked the story and ordered someone to write it down. But Zayd said. " the messenger of God ordered us never to write anything of his hadith". (3) The famous book, "Ulum Al-Hadith" by Ibn Al-Salah, reports a hadith by Abu Hurayra in which Abu Hurayra said the Messenger of God came out to us while we were writing his hadiths and said; "What are you writing?" We said, "hadiths that we hear from you, messenger of God." He said, "A book other than the book of God?" We said, "Should we talk about you?" He said, Talk about me, that would be fine, but those who will lie will go to Hell. Abu Hurayra said, we collected what we wrote of hadiths and burned them in fire. (4) In the famous book, "Taq-yeed Al-Ilm", Abu Hurayra said, the Messenger of God was informed that some people are writing his hadiths. He took to the pulpit of the mosque and said, "What are these books that I heard you wrote? I am just a human being. Anyone who has any of these writings should bring it here. Abu Hurayra said we collected all these and burned them in fire. (5) Ibn Hanbal in his Musnad book, narrates a hadith in which Abdullah Ibn Omar said, "the Messenger of God one day came out to us as if he was going to depart us soon and said, "When I depart you (die), hold to the book of God, prohibit what it prohibits and accept as halal what it makes halal." (6) Again, in the book "Taq-yeed Al-Ilm", Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said, " I asked the Messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, but he refused to give me a permission." (7) The farewell Pilgrimage of Prophet Muhammed is a corner stone in the Muslim history. The Final Sermon given by the Prophet during this pilgrimage was witnessed by thousands of Muslims. There are however three versions of this sermon in the hadiths books. This by itself reflects the degree of inconsistency of the hadith books as this is the most witnessed speech of Prophet Muhammed. 1- First version, " I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God and my family. Moslim 44/4, Nu2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319. This is the version upheld by the Shia Muslims. 2-Second version, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God and my sunnah" . Muwatta, 46/3 This is the version upheld by the Sunni Muslims. 3- Third version, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God." Moslim 15/19, nu 1218; Ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56. This last version is the version hated by the Sunni and Shia Muslims alike. This is the only version which conforms with the repeated assertion in the Quran that Muhammed's message was only the Quran. Many Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims do not even know that the last version of the sermon exists. In reality, they do not want to know, the truth hurts.
rob emmanuel LOL thank you because you just proved the authenticity of the Hadith in 2 ways. First is the fact that you actually acknowledge this Hadith itself, and the other traditions that you cited below, which means your entire worldview is self-destroyed. And if you were just citing them to make a point to those of us who accept Hadith, then your argument is still absurd & invalid, since 1,000+ years of Muslims theologians & Hadith scholars are aware of this Hadith...yet they still affirm the inspiration & authority of the authentic Hadith. And the second way you have affirmed the Hadith is because this statement of the Prophet (pbuh) is referring to when someone wants to actually write down the Quran in order to teach others or as a personal copy- the words of the Prophet (saw) should be left out of the margins or as in text references, *LEST THE PROPHET’S HADITH/TRADITIONS CREEP INTO THE TEXT OF THE QURAN AND BE INTERMIXED.* In other words, the Prophet (saw) is saying “I KNOW that you hear my words and statements and wisdom and wish to remember them and understand them as you study Quran. But make sure that if you set out to write the Quran, they you do not write down my prophetic statements alongside it, so that they are properly separated and not mixed together.” Thus the Hadith fails to support your argument, in fact contradicts it, and it doesn’t matter either way for you since you reject Hadith- or, you accept this one Hadith, which still means your argument is invalid since you have cherry-picked which Hadith to accept and which to reject based on your whims and desires. May Allah (swt) guide you to the truth. Ameen. *”...And We have sent down to YOU [O Muhammad] the Remembrance [i.e the Quran] SO THAT YOU MAY CLEARLY EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHAT HAS BEEN SENT DOWN TO THEM, and that they may GIVE THOUGHT.” (Quran **16:44**, The Bee)*
Abdul,S ,Exactly 16:44 .And We have sent down to YOU [O Muhammad] the REMINDER SO THAT YOU MAY CLEARLY EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHAT HAS BEEN SENT DOWN TO THEM, and that they may GIVE THOUGHT.” the reminder is the QURAN and the prophet did not contradict the Quran as 9 out of 10 hadiths do contradict the QURAN ,and Allah knows best
The brother on the left is spot on and showing true guidance from Allah in my humble opinion....I believe the same. And it came to me by intuition during one Ramadan after I made dua to Allah to reveal the truth to me....I started stumbling upon certain surah’s and things that I overlooked before seemed clear as day! It clearly says the Qur’an is complete and easy to understand....it has clear signs and everything is included in His book....all laws are in the Qur’an and that we should only take Qur’an as a book of Islamic law, plus Allah gives us examples of Jews and Christians doing the same thing with the books of their scholars by following them over the book of Allah.....the evidence is just blatantly overwhelming and when you present it to them they skim over it like it aint there or ask you a question that has nothing to do with the point you just made about the Qur’anic verses to try throw you off. They can never answer the verses and start quoting scholars or reciting Qur’an or Hadith in Arabic in order to sound knowledge and throw the arguing track....when backed into a corner they will start saying things like....you know better than the companions?? It’s the same thing they can’t see that Allah is talking about them in the Qur’an when He tells us of the ones gone astray....Allah says everything is in His book and they say not everything is in there so we need Hadith....so I must believe a man over what Allah says in His book? I was a Christian many years ago and they do the exact same thing yet most Muslims can’t see they are almost a carbon copy.....tell a Christian Issa didn’t eat pork and they will skip it like you never said it and either ask you a question or some other diversion....same thing blatantly having selective understanding when it comes to Allahs Book and making out certain obvious verses don’t mean what they clearly do!
Exact & all spot on! A carbon copy exact thing i have tried to say previously coming from Christianity its all so familiar!! but that is a great terminolgy brother! Well said.
Well , ill be frank with u dear Im not a scholar 👨🏫 , im just regular Muslim Ur talk didn’t make sense form me U said everything we need is in the Quran and u mean by that indirectly We don’t need the hadith If that’s right , so continue reading plz 1sr point u have to realize that the Quran is the book of signs not Science 2nd point> it’s mention in the Quran that we have to follow our prophet and do what he does and don’t do what he doesn’t do So logically we can’t ignore the hadith 3d point in the Quran it says we have to pray but doesn’t show u how to pray The sam with ramadan the same with hajee .. ect 4th point always and everywhere, either u should be a student and follow what ur teacher tells u OR u can be a teacher and discuss with other teachers I mean by that u can’t just be a student and u wanna argue with ur teacher and claiming that u know exactly like ur teacher , that’s no respect So at the end It’s clearly we need both of them Quran and Hadith plus we need the opinions of other scholars who are really spent their life for studying what Allah saya and what his messenger says and what really the meaning behind every verse Thank u
Instead of debating with Christian scholars, why don't the traditional Muslim scholars like Zakir Naik or Nouman Ali Khan debate with Quran only Muslim scholars? I've heard requests have been made, but declined. These guys don't have all the facts in their arguments. Seems to me though the Quran only believer made a better argument. May God guide us to what is best. Respect each other's doubts.
the beard argument again.. everytime they use it and they think by it they can convice people that they are not following the prophet.. sometimes I get so frustrated with the people.. stupidity hurts..
i got no knowledge about hadith but no one has answered this - so what about the people that never got to read bukahri's books( the people that never met bukhari or the prophet(SAW) as there was a 300 year gap in between). so this is big flaw as for salah i will got knowledge of my masjid teacher so as i dont recall him showing bukhari book to any one of us.
@@aqeel-3771 it is not about bukhari, it is about following prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) way of worship and every sort of commandment from Allah which is in the quran. It states in the quran An-Nisa' 4:13 تِلْكَ حُدُودُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَمَن يُطِعِ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ يُدْخِلْهُ جَنَّٰتٍ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَٰرُ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَاۚ وَذَٰلِكَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ These are the limits [set by] Allah, and whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger will be admitted by Him to gardens [in Paradise] under which rivers flow, abiding eternally therein; and that is the great attainment. The prophet Muhammads (pbuh) his companions and all the believers before bukhari compiled the prophets pbuh hadiths, people didnt need books to know the hadiths, they had great memory and understood the importance of the prophets pbuh actions and everything about him. Ofcourse we follow the quran however we also follow saheeh and hasan hadiths. I pray for guidance for this ummah.
@@aqeel-3771 Bukhari was not the first person to write hadiths. Rather, he merely collected all the Sahih hadiths and put them together. Before Buhari, there was imam Malik, Imam ahmed and others who's books are widely used. The problem with quranists is that they haven't studied the hadith sciences. The muhaddiths don't just blindly follow bukhari, or any hadith compilers for this matter, rather they analyse the sanad. Like I said, learn about hadith science.
@@-hs6vz is this correct? Obey the messenger ? What made the prophet Muhammad pbuh more important than previous messengers? I notice that pbuh is necessary for them yet jesus is mentioned normally. Islam is not about rituals yet alot of the hadiths suggest rituals but when the debate is with Christian's the very people supporting hadiths dismiss the bible because it was written by men who never jesus!!!
This Muslim who follows Quran alone, knows what he is talking about. Why? because he's speaking from the Quran, and not from man made doctrine. Alhamdullilah, may Allah reward you brother.
man made doctrine?? are you serious, the hadith is the speech of prophet Muhammad, how are you gonna pray/fast/ perform hajj if you reject hadith. also Allah said obey me and my messenger.
12345 67890 because Allah tells us to pray, to fast and to perform hajj. And yes the Hadith is man made doctrine if it's not from Allah. So yes I am VERY serious. How to perform hajj is in Surat hajj and in chapter 5. how to pray is in chapters 2, 17, 23, 22 & 4. And I'm Sure it's in many more places as well. And how to fast is in chapter ( 2:183), chapter 49, and chapter 97. And yes we are supposed to follow the messenger, and that is what we do when we follow Quran, because the Quran was the ONLY thing the messenger followed. And yes the words of Hadith are man written because man wrote them telling you that they are the words of prophet Muhammad sws (PBUH) when they have no proof at all what so ever...if they are not the words of prophet Muhammad sws PBUH from the Holy Quran then they are not trust worthy enough to be followed. EVERYTHING that prophet Muhammad sws said is in the QURAN. When it says "say:" everytime then we know Prophet Muhammad said it. But if it ain't in the Quran we can not trust it.
the quran and hadith was narrated by the same people, for you to claim it is man made then thats no different to saying the same for the Quran. Allah commanded us to obey him and his messenger, so how will you obey Allah if you reject hadith which are the saying of prophet Muhammad and how will you perform hajj and pray although Allah comamands it isnt detailed in the quran the details are in the hadith. i suggest you learn the religion correctly before making such ignorant and uneducated statements.
wow now that is something new " EVERYTHING that prophet Muhammad sws said is in the QURAN" the quran is the speech of Allah and Hadith is the speech of prophet mohammad, hadith has a chain of narration and so does the quran, it was narated by the same people it is hypocritical to reject one or the other, il ask you this how can you trust the quran when you doubt the hadith since the same people narrated it.
12345 67890 you didn't read my comment, the people who narrated the Quran did not write the Hadith. That's is what I'm telling you. And Allah tells us EVERYTHING Muhammad said in the Quran when He say "say (O Muhammad):" and the Prophets way is no different then Allah's way. How could there ways be different. Everything that is in the Quran is what the prophet did and said, because that was the only book he followed. He didn't follow one thing and then go and say something completely different. What is the matter with you. He spoke from the Quran, no where else. And the Hadiths go against the Quran in so many ways so how could he have said the things that they say he said in Hadith when I goes against Quran? I trust the Quran because it has no mistakes , includes everything and has no contradictions or errors. It is a book that has been made in divine design and there is only ONE divine and that is Allah SWT. That's how I know the Quran is from Him. Regardless on who narrated it, I know the MESSAGE is from Him. But Hadith lies and have so many contradictions and errors in it. And that is why it is not trust worthy to be followed. And prophet Mohammed was not a man of contradiction and error. That is how I know that the Hadith are not from him. And you said it's hypocritical for me to follow one thing and not follow the other? You can't compare something that has contradictions and errors in it to something that is divine. The Quran is divine the Hadith is not therefore you can't compare it. And it's hypocritical for you to be a Muslim and say that the Christians are wrong and so are the Jews for following man made doctrine but yet you go head and do the same thing when you follow the Hadith which was also man made. Islam only has one book of guidance and that's the Quran.
To the Quranist here, can I say that we can use hadiths only to explore the historical context of Muhammad ?? Hadith, from my perspective, can't be applied in the modern age. It's just the story about Muhammad and what all he said is mostly about the situation and condition in Arabia, the Arabs, and the circumstances creating the logical thinking of Muhammad at the time.
Before Bukhari finished collecting the hadiths, Muslims never had problems practising Islam, besides that not all Bukhari hadiths are shahih, a lot of them are weak or dhaif.
His point is clear I think. If you believe every Hadith in Bukhari amongst others is what the prophet Muhammad pbuh has said, then you’re not being honest with yourself.
@Thora Adam Read Quran. Most hadiths are weak, contradict Quran. Our prophets never approved them. Nowadays most Muslims and Clerics talk about hadiths but rarely about Quran. Irony. [6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. (The Quran is saying here that it’s complete, meaning it’s stand-alone and doesn’t need Hadith to complete it) [6:38] We did not leave anything out of the Book. (No detail was left out of the Quran). [45:6] These are the verses of God which We recite to you in truth. So in what hadith after God and His verses will they believe? [77:50] So in which hadith besides it do they believe? (This is a rhetorical question that conveys the point that no Hadith besides the Quran should be believed in) [39:23] God has brought down the Best Hadith; a Book that is consistent in its repetitions. [17:46] And We place veils over their hearts so they would not understand it, and deafness in their ears, and when you commemorate your Lord in the Quran alone they turn their backs and run away in aversion. (We are told to commemorate God in the Quran alone).
bukhari was a wicked man, who claimed that the prophet was bewitched, or at least claimed this hadith was sahih. bukhari 3175 The Quran warns that wicked men will say that the prophet was bewitched. 17:47- We are Best Aware of what they wish to hear when they give ear to thee and when they take secret counsel, when the evil-doers say: Ye follow but a man bewitched.
zepeterinma yes he was and that’s why he wrote in first page of the book “not to rewrite anything in the book”. He will be punished! He is a non believer who committed a blasphemy against Allah. And anyone who follows his teaching is participating in the blasphemy against Allah. May Allah guide us on the right path: the Quran!
Rashad khalifa should have just logically just made the conclusion that his 19 pattern only fits with the verses that start with bismillah? Or that there was just a small anomaly so that people could ignore the other 99% if they so wanted to? He could have said "i dont know". Just goes to show if someone is going to fall due to arrogance, it will happen no matter who you are
Allah says "In which hadeeth other than God and his revelation do they believe? Sunni muslim: imam bukhari and muslim and tirmidi and imam shafi imam ahmed hannibal and imam hanifa and the list goes on. WHY???
Whatever the debate is , it should be done in a more respectful and calm manner especially a religious one to protect the unity. It's not about I am right and you are wrong, it's about having a meaningful discussion and maybe coming with a better conclusion than our individual opinions.
These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you truthfully. In which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6 Or have they not looked at the realm of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created, and that perhaps their time may be drawing near? Which hadith after this (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185 God has brought down the Best Hadith; a Book (Quran) that is consistent in its frequent repetitions. 39:23 So in which hadith besides it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50 Or do you have some other book in which you are studying? 68:37 All the above verses contain the same clear commandment; not to follow any source of religious guidance and law other than the Quran. The Quran has all the details we need: Shall I seek other than God as a law maker when He has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114 6:114 contains clear confirmation that: - God is the only law maker. - The Quran has all the details. Further confirmation that the Quran has all the details we need is given in the following verse: This (Quran) is not fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what is with you, a detailed account of all things and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111 We did not leave anything out of the Book; then to their Lord they will be summoned. 6:38 We have brought the Book down to you providing explanations for all things plus guidance and mercy, and giving news to the Muslims (submitters to God). 16:89
whoever read bukhari's hadith book, obviously, the man in the left is far better than Bukhari. Why? If Bukhari know and understand the Quranic teaching, logically he wouldn't write hadith which contradict the Quranic teaching, isn't it?
If the Quran alone was enough why was it presented and taught to us by the best of creation. Why was it not left on the Earth to be discovered? This is because Muhammad (pbuh) was sent as an example and sahih hadith helps us gain a better understanding of how he lived and acted/reacted in any given situation. If these non muslim muslims followed the hadith they wouldn't have to interpret it with their own feeble minds and make a big mess off it.
- Prophet Muhammad himself commanded his people not to write his hadith, this is documented in the collection of 'Muslim' and other books: "Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7147)
Bashir Ahmad The Scholars are those who inherit the Deen from the Companions of Muhammad pbuh.who were the Example of how to follow him to worship Allah..They are of the 3 rightly guided Generations the Salaf of Ahl Al Sunnah Wal Ja'maa'h hold firm to....Guessing you are a deviant Ahmedi....
+Bashir Ahmad: have you circumcised?? if you have been circumcised since you were a child, blame and ask for compensation to your parents. because of course your parents will not find the obligation or command of circumcision in the Qur'an, so why they did that to you? they are very unjust and very opposing Allah.
baco tongo If a rule is not in the quran, it is NOT an obligation. Period. Allah tell us that we need to beleive only in HIM without idolizing ANYBODY. do salat, give charity, fast in ramadan, do hajj if we can, do good deeds and avoid sin. Thats it! that's what we need to do. Other rules and obligations are a bida. If circumcision is not in the quran, it is not important. It become only something for hygiene, nothing else. The hadiths are an association to Allah. Associating anything to HIM is worst than shaving beard, eating with left hand, and other stupid interdictions the hadith tell us. Peace and may Allah guide and forgive us nshallah.
Are you saying Allah forgot to put things in the Quran? That he’s wrong when he says his book is full and complete with details for everything? A guide? Allah said if the oceans were ink and trees were pens his words would never run out! Alhamdulillah!
Many Mazabs. Many Hadiths.Many scholars from different groups each autheticate their own version. People never learn from the people of the previous book. How sects came about in Christianity is exactly this way.. وَإِذَا لَمْ تَأْتِهِم بِآيَةٍ قَالُوا لَوْلَا اجْتَبَيْتَهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَتَّبِعُ مَا يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ مِن رَّبِّي هَٰذَا بَصَائِرُ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ (7:203) And whenever you do not bring them a verse (for instance to answer their questions), they say: “Why didn’t you make up one?!” Proclaim (O Muhammad): “I follow exclusively (انما = exclusive particle) what isrevealed to me from my Lord”! Quran emphasize strongly to study history and to reflect. Christians, jews all were divided because of narrations.
If muslim rejected hadiths it's mean they rejected QS 23:44, in the Quran not saying to believe in (book of) hadiths, Quran says to take the excent pattern of the Messenger of Allah QS 33:21, that's should finish the problem. and bonus QS 3:31 if you love Allah and want Allah love you back, it's so simple follow Muhammad PBUH and take his excelent pattern.
Allah SWT berfirman: اَوَلَمْ يَكْفِهِمْ اَنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنَا عَلَيْكَ الْكِتٰبَ يُتْلٰى عَلَيْهِمْ ۗ اِنَّ فِيْ ذٰلِكَ لَرَحْمَةً وَّذِكْرٰى لِقَوْمٍ يُّؤْمِنُوْنَ a wa lam yakfihim annaaa anzalnaa 'alaikal-kitaaba yutlaa 'alaihim, inna fii zaalika larohmataw wa zikroo liqoumiy yu`minuun "Apakah tidak cukup bagi mereka bahwa Kami telah menurunkan kepadamu Kitab (Al-Qur'an) yang dibacakan kepada mereka? Sungguh, dalam (Al-Qur'an) itu terdapat rahmat yang besar dan pelajaran bagi orang-orang yang beriman." (QS. Al-'Ankabut 29: Ayat 51) Maaf mas apakah ada ayat Al Qur'an menyuruh kita membaca hadis? Hadis adalah man made buatan manusia.. Penuh kontradiksi dengan ajaran Al Qur' an
Assalamualaikum@@rizkimp02 , atas kehendak Allah ahadits tsb ada, baik dalam AlQuran mau pun tidak, sebelum AlQuran pun sudah ada ahadits tentang para rasul-rasulNya. Sudah sepatutnya mengambil tauladannya, tidak baik mencemo'oh ahadits, kisah riwayat tentang para rasul Allah. QS 23:44 Kemudian, Kami utus rasul-rasul Kami berturut-turut. Setiap kali seorang rasul datang kepada suatu umat, mereka mendustakannya, maka Kami silih gantikan sebagian mereka dengan sebagian yang lain (dalam kebinasaan). Dan Kami jadikan mereka bahan cerita (ahadits). Maka binasalah bagi kaum yang tidak beriman. QS 33:21 Sungguh, telah ada pada (diri) Rasulullah itu suri teladan yang baik bagimu (yaitu) bagi orang yang mengharap (rahmat) Allah dan (kedatangan) hari Kiamat dan yang banyak mengingat Allah.
@@gigung9458 maaf begini mas saya tahu anda pikir saya sesat.. Oke hadis memang perlu tapi apakah nabi melakukan hal yg diluar Al Qur'an seperti membunuh musuh tanpa melawan? Siksa kubur? Membunuh cicak? Membunuh murtad? Dsb..
@@gigung9458 Allah berfirman Al Qur'an detail/rinci Allah SWT berfirman: اَفَغَيْرَ اللّٰهِ اَبْتَغِيْ حَكَمًا وَّهُوَ الَّذِيْۤ اَنْزَلَ اِلَيْكُمُ الْـكِتٰبَ مُفَصَّلاً ۗ وَالَّذِيْنَ اٰتَيْنٰهُمُ الْـكِتٰبَ يَعْلَمُوْنَ اَنَّهٗ مُنَزَّلٌ مِّنْ رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَـقِّ فَلَا تَكُوْنَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِيْنَ a faghoirollaahi abtaghii hakamaw wa huwallaziii anzala ilaikumul-kitaaba mufashsholaa, wallaziina aatainaahumul-kitaaba ya'lamuuna annahuu munazzalum mir robbika bil-haqqi fa laa takuunanna minal-mumtariin "Pantaskah aku mencari hakim selain Allah, padahal Dialah yang menurunkan Kitab (Al-Qur'an) kepadamu secara rinci? Orang-orang yang telah Kami beri Kitab mengetahui benar bahwa (Al-Qur'an) itu diturunkan dari Tuhanmu dengan benar. Maka janganlah kamu termasuk orang-orang yang ragu." (QS. Al-An'am 6: Ayat 114)
Okay saya jelaskan bukhari imam muslim dkk lahir 250 setelah kematian nabi.. Semua orang persia.. Perkembangan buku dan teknologi awalnya dipegang oleh mutazilah dan djbanggakan oleh islam pada jaman abbasiyah dan diturunkan oleh islam sunni, tapi ulama sunni menganggap mereka sesat dan muncul bukhari dsb.. Memang banyak hadis2 yg bermanfaat. Tapi coba cek -Membunuh cicak -Membunuh murtad -Menggauli budak saat kalah perang walaupun itu sudah bersuami -membunuh 900 yahudi di madinah -siksa kubur -nabi muhammad menggauli budak mariah di Kamar hafsah kemudian hafsah marah dan nabi bersumpah mengharamkan mariah (kitab tabbari asbabun nuzul at thamrin : 1) -menikahi aisyah diumur 6 tahun (cacian karena pedofil) -mendapatkan konstatinopel dan roma (kalifah usman menjajah konstatinopel dengan perang) -nabi muhammad diberikan kotoran untuk (maaf) cebok -nabi mengirim utusan untuk membunuh -seorang perempuan dicincang perutnya oleh sahabat2 nabu -1 kampung dibkar hidup2 abu bakar karena murtad -isbal masuk neraka -siapa yg tidak memegang sunnah bunuhlah -jika ada yg lewat depan solat dan ngotot bunuhlah -anjing hitam bunuhlah Masih banyak lagi.. Apakah itu ajaran islam? Anda sudah cek Al Qur'an itu kontradiksi tdk?
Quranist Brother:- Peace. ARGUMENT is not encouraged. Follow what is revealed to you and your heart will guide you to the right path with his will. Trust HIM and him alone.
kadhdd sumsha 16:37) (O Muhammad), howsoever eager you may be to show them the Right Way, Allah does not bestow His guidance on those whom He lets go astray; and in fact none will be able to help them And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam, and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.” [Al-An’aam, 6:125] Say: It is Allah Who guides to the truth.” [Yunus, 10:35] And they will say: All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has guided us to this, never could we have found guidance, were it not that Allah guided us!” [Al-A’araaf, 7:43] Verily! You (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills.” [Al-Qasas, 28:56] So whosoever receives guidance, he does so for the good of his own self, and whosoever goes astray, he does so to his own loss.” [Yunus, 10:108] But Shaytan wishes to lead them astray.” [An-Nisaa’, 4:60]
Allah said.obay.him and obay his messenger , how do.we obay his.messenger? You.say you.are.a.muslim, it's ok, a muslim must practice praying, fasting, zakat, hadj, how do we practice these acts only by.reading quran?
Djamal DOUAR “We sent no Messenger except to be obeyed by Allah’s permission. If only when they wronged themselves they had come to you and asked Allah’s forgiveness and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them they would have found Allah Ever-Returning, Most Merciful.” (4:64) All messengers Allah sent were leaders of their people they judged and taught from what they were sent in their Books. Say: ‘I am nothing new among the Messengers. I have no idea what will be done with me or you. I only follow what has been revealed to me. I am only a clear warner.’” (46:9) “Surely We have revealed/descended the Book (Qur’an) to you with the truth that you may judge between people by means of that which Allah has showed/taught you; and be not an advocate on behalf of the treacherous.” (4:105) First version (upheld by the Shia Muslims): 1st version The Messenger of Allah said, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of Allah and ‘itrati’ (my family).” (Moslim 44/4, Nu2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319). 2- Second version (upheld by the Sunni Muslims): The Messenger of Allah said, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of Allah and my Sunna." (Muwatta, 46/3). 3- Third version (ignored by Sunni’s and Shia): The Messenger of Allah said, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of Allah." (Moslim 15/19, nu 1218; Ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56). Say: 'I possess for you no harm or guidance to the right direction. I'm still studying I am searching for the truth. "Such was the sunna of God for those who have passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the sunna of God."33:62 ALI, the fourth Caliph, pronounced the following statement in a khutba: Those who possess with them pages of hadiths should destroy them. For what causes havoc among people is their abandonment of the book of God and in abiding by the injunctions of the scholars.34 (Jama e Biyaan ul Ilm, narrated by Abdullah bin Ye’saar) Men do evil things for different reason , money, power, fame, respect, love. people sin because they don't fear Allah they don't believe in judgement day
Djamal DOUAR Give me the Hadith you learned to pray from please. I'm assuming your parents didn't teach you about praying. At what age did you start following the Hadith to pray? Alhumdulillah
Bukhari is very well known for narating hadith. But he isn't well known for understanding Quran. I think that is why we can't take everything Bukhari said, because we should put Quran first.
@@SJ-yd6zi the proof is what he write that contradict quran. Dont take my words, find scholar who know better for this matter, like hassan farhan al maliki.
Creator does not create partners! Lol. You dont need to follow bullshit scholars to be a good muslim. Read the quran and see by yourself what Allah say about scholars.
وَسَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ - 36:10 It is the same whether you warn them or not-they will never believe. إِنَّمَا تُنذِرُ مَنِ اتَّبَعَ الذِّكْرَ وَخَشِيَ الرَّحْمَٰنَ بِالْغَيْبِ ۖ فَبَشِّرْهُ بِمَغْفِرَةٍ وَأَجْرٍ كَرِيمٍ - 36:11 You can only warn one who follows the message and fears the Most Merciful unseen. So give him good tidings of forgiveness and noble reward.
One thing I will say I do t agree with is that the Qur’an is the same as a translation.....a translation can give you an understanding of the basic concept of what it is to be a Muslim and the belief of tauhid....but in order to fully utilise the Qur’an, it must be recited in the Arabic language as the vibration frequency of those words are designed to have a certain effect....sound causes vibrations that resonate throughout our bodies which is 70% water and changes the molecular structured our body’s fluids which in turn raises the frequency of our vibrational field.....as the Qur’an has been proven to produce highly positive vibes that have an amazing effect in water....you can see why having it recited with the right sounds is important....the way it was divinely revealed is most powerful as that’s the original way Allah intended that book to be used.
Some of them call us Kaffir but it certainly looks to me that they`re confused about who/what to believe which then makes them non believers in each others opinion
These people are just a minority( I don't know if minority, is the right word, because they are eve less than that). We, as muslims, clearly understand what we believe
@@leertaste1265 If it was the oldest form of Islamic belief then enlighten us. U are not quranist You are unfortunately lost in ur own so called logic. Quran and sunnah is the oldest form of Islamic religion. so u have no clue. you don't do salah or believe in the 5 times prayers. Just pure arrogance and ignorance backed up by Shaitan
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “None of you have faith until I am more beloved to him than his children, his father, and all of the people.
Look what the Quran itself said. All hadith followers can quote is "follow the messenger" May Allah (SWT) guide us all. Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185 So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50 A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers. Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3 These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6 Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37 This (Quran) is not a fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what came before it, a detailed account of all things, and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111 We brought the Book down to you providing explanations of all things. 16:89 Shall I seek other than God as a lawmaker when it is He who has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114 We did not leave anything out of the Book. 6:38 Do not utter lies that are portrayed by your tongues: "This is lawful, and that is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to God. Those who fabricate lies and attribute them to God will not succeed. 16:116 The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of the message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99 Or do they have 'shuraka' (partners) who legislate for them of the religion what God did not authorise? If it were not for a decisive Word, judgement would have already been passed over them. Indeed, the transgressors shall have a painful punishment. 42:21 Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15). Such was the Sunna of God for those who passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God. 33:62 You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God, and you will find that there is no diversion from the Sunna of God. 35:43 The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message). 5:99 The same message is found in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48 and 64:12. But if they turn away, We did not send you as a guardian over them. Your sole duty (O Muhammad) is the delivery. 42:48 Say, "Have you seen what God has brought down to you of provisions, of which you have made some unlawful and some lawful?" Say, "Did God give you permission, or are you fabricating lies about God?" 10:59 The Word of your Lord has been completed, in truth and justice. None can change His Words. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable. 6:115 I'm just trying to help you :(
How ignorant and misguided could a person be who says I won't accept hadeeth.. Do they want a book to be given to them directly from heavens without a prophet. Even companions did not understand quran directly without prophets guidance.. May Allah give them guidance or keep them away in a corner..
Creator does not create partners! The Hadith are not the prophets guidance. They are Bhukharis words. Watch Quran centric and Sam gerrans to understand Quran alone.
@@ibrahim187 correct at this rate the prophet was married god knows how many times while he should be preaching islam and top of that they say that this was the culture and the prophet himself practiced it. if u ask me there bunch of idiots and the last apostles biography's of hadith are confusing as there all different
Look what the Quran itself said. All hadith followers can quote is "follow the messenger" May Allah (SWT) guide us all. Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185 So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50 A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers. Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3 These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6 Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37 This (Quran) is not a fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what came before it, a detailed account of all things, and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111 We brought the Book down to you providing explanations of all things. 16:89 Shall I seek other than God as a lawmaker when it is He who has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114 We did not leave anything out of the Book. 6:38 Do not utter lies that are portrayed by your tongues: "This is lawful, and that is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to God. Those who fabricate lies and attribute them to God will not succeed. 16:116 The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of the message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99 Or do they have 'shuraka' (partners) who legislate for them of the religion what God did not authorise? If it were not for a decisive Word, judgement would have already been passed over them. Indeed, the transgressors shall have a painful punishment. 42:21 Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15). Such was the Sunna of God for those who passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God. 33:62 You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God, and you will find that there is no diversion from the Sunna of God. 35:43 The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message). 5:99 The same message is found in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48 and 64:12. But if they turn away, We did not send you as a guardian over them. Your sole duty (O Muhammad) is the delivery. 42:48 Say, "Have you seen what God has brought down to you of provisions, of which you have made some unlawful and some lawful?" Say, "Did God give you permission, or are you fabricating lies about God?" 10:59 The Word of your Lord has been completed, in truth and justice. None can change His Words. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable. 6:115 I'm just trying to help you :(
Yea but when it comes to beliefs numbers clearly don't mean anything. Religions always start as one thing then break up in to sects. Even Buddhism has different sects. And in fact there are sects within sects. Like in Sunni Islam and Shia Islam there are other smaller sects.
@Thora Adam I should have said bring me the original Bible , I will believe it. Shakespeare is not God, therefore he can say anything but we don't have to believe it.
@Thora Adam Torah and Bible and Bible doesn't mention it's preserved because those books don't exist anymore. Quran claim's it's the reminder and a confirmation of the previous book's and also Allah said. Al-Buruj 85:22 فِى لَوْحٍ مَّحْفُوظٍۭ [Inscribed] in a Preserved Slate. This Quran is sufficient for everyone.
Sorry I read the Quran front to back and didn't find any "Bukhari" in there. And there were 77,000 words total. Lots of commands to follow. I think prayer only appeared 99 times.
Bukhari was not the first person to write hadiths. Rather, he merely collected all the Sahih hadiths and put them together. Before Buhari, there was imam Malik, Imam ahmed and others who's books are widely used. The problem with quranists is that they haven't studied the hadith sciences. The muhaddiths don't just blindly follow bukhari, or any hadith compilers for this matter, rather they analyse the sanad. Like I said, learn about hadith science.
If sunni accept that hadith is from prophet muhammad and prophet muhammad already explained everything what was in al-quran then why.. not any single hadith explain what mean by :- Alif laam miim.. Kaff haa yaa ainn saad.. Yaa siin ..and etc.. Does Allah not explained to prophet muhammad what does it mean??????.. if Allah do not explain .. then how can Allah said that our prophet accomplished his duty as massenger of Allah.. Where is the hadith.. or bukhori forgot to produce/manufactured the hadith??.. or cannot produce hadith because bukhori do not understand what does it mean????.. or bukhori scared to proposed hadith in explaining meaning for those words.. because he cannot even figure it..
Brother Kamran, Subhaan Allah. May Allah swt reward you for your effort in standing up to these bearded, hadith propagators and helping propagate True Deen. The title of this video ought to be True Muslim vs Hadithi. Why? Because Allah swt only Sent down Al-Quran. All else is man-made hadith. Allah, in the Quran, states that The Quran is the Best Hadith. Also, In what hadith after this, will you believe(77:50). The Quran further states, as brother Kamran rightly says, that the task of the Messenger was to only deliver the Message, he was not to explain it! This task, Quran states, lay with Allah swt. Those who follow man-made hadith are just like the Christians who now follow the Gospels. They dont even question where is the Injeel of Prophet Jesus! They accept blindly the hadith of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John i.e Bukhari, etc etc. As for growing a beard being sunnah, even the enemies of the Prophet s.a .w had beards! Having a beard has nothing to do with Deen-e-Islam. It is a cultural thing. More so related to being in a hot desert, with limited water supplies and harsh sandstorms. It made sense to grow a beard. Thank goodness these hadith followers havent insisted yet, that women must grow a beard also!!!! The verses in the Quran that say: Atti Allah, atti Rasool i.e Obey Allah and his Messenger is stating exactly that. Allah chooses His Words very carefully. Allah swt did not say "obey Muhammed," it says " obey the Messenger." There is a vast difference in the inference. If I send someone with a message to give someone else, the idea is that they will deliver my message and the recipient will act on the message. It would not be the case that the recipient then decides to follow and accept everything else that my messenger says! Bukhari etc lived over 250yrs after Rasool-Allah. It is inconceivable that such hadith are on par with the Quran. Many are in fact very, very degrading to our Messenger s.a.w and to women. What is so funny is that the man-made hadith even have hadith that say that the Prophet forbade the writing down of anything he said, except the Quran. I once had a discussion with a guy with a long beard who said that the reason for this was that people may get confused between the verses of the Quran and other man -made hadith!!!! How stupid. I reminded him of the Challenge that Allah swt gives in the Quran.... Produce a surah like it, nay, produce 10 ayats or even one ayah!!!! He was still stubborn in his view. It is Allah swt Who gives Hidayah. Those who think the sunnah is the hadith, have a seal around their hearts. Those like brother Kamran have been granted Hidayah from OUR CREATOR, OUR MAKER. Brother Kamran, please join thousands of others like yourself at " Ourbeacon.com." Where you will find those Muslims who also hold the Quran as central to their core beliefs. Hasbuna Khitab Allah.
@@user-k229 Only statements that you utter, had you followed the Quran, it would lead you to follow Rasulullah (May peace and blessings be upon him) I could say so many things but I'll leave you with this czcams.com/video/8ppnVcLU080/video.html May Allah guide you and me
Right at the beginning of the Quran it says THIS THE BOOK ! This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah! And what do 90% of muslims do? Follow the hadith books.
the absolute truth is in the Quran, use hadith as reference proving is in harmony with the Quran, if not toss the hadith and stick with the Quran only.
If you reject the Sunnah then how do you know how to pray? How to make Wuthu? How to fast? How to give zakat? The Hadeeth, Sunnah and Qur'aan go hand in hand my friend. I pray Allah guides these confused people and brings them back to Islam and stop their ignorance. P.s @ 5:00 the guy says did you hear the prophet say this? did you see the prophet do that? well by that definition, did YOU hear the Qur'aan being revealed to the prophet? How do you know the Qur'aan is the word or God if you didn't witness it? See... You can't use that logic.... because you weren't there.
Tara Bee, the Quran explains everything, you just need to study it without outside influence. Watch Quran centric and Sam gerrans Quran channels to understand more.
The Quran is complex, there are things within it that we may not understand. This is where the hadeeth comes in as well as the Sunnah of the prophet. Besides, if you believe everything in the Qur'an then how can you reject the prophet and his teachings? He is mentioned in the Qur'an!
Tara Bee. I do not reject the prophet or his teachings. What you need to realise is that the Hadith are not the prophets words, they are Bhukhari’s. Again I urge you to study the Quran alone before you follow mans word (Hadith) alongside Allahs word (Quran)
What is your understanding of Bukhari and Muslim? Do you not realise that it is a collation of the prophet's teachings? Via trustees who heard and witnessed and who's words were cross examined in order to obtain the saheeh hadith? I don't get why you are against these authenticated hadiths? You can't only read the Qur'an and know how to for example make Wuthu or how to pray. Maybe look into it? Either way, believe what you like. May Allah have mercy on all of us.
ALLAH SAID IN THE QURAN...OBAY ME...AND MY MESSENGER. MEANS OBAY THE QURAN AND THE TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET...THE SUNNA SUNNAH IS OBAYING THE PROPHET. WITH OUT HADITH...I DONT THINK THAT YOU CAN BE A MUSLIM... HADITH WAS A QADER BY ALLAH SWT. DESTANY. ALLAHU AKBAR
Islammylife 4everAllahwilling Allah said this in the Quran? or did one man who wanted to have superiority and control write this himself in order to convince you that this is what Allah said? I know, I know, you are not allowed to question the Quran or your religion. this though is exactly how you are kept in line. never ask questions is a control tactic.
Look what the Quran itself said. All hadith followers can quote is "follow the messenger" May Allah (SWT) guide us all. Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185 So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50 A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers. Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3 These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6 Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37 This (Quran) is not a fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what came before it, a detailed account of all things, and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111 We brought the Book down to you providing explanations of all things. 16:89 Shall I seek other than God as a lawmaker when it is He who has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114 We did not leave anything out of the Book. 6:38 Do not utter lies that are portrayed by your tongues: "This is lawful, and that is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to God. Those who fabricate lies and attribute them to God will not succeed. 16:116 The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of the message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99 Or do they have 'shuraka' (partners) who legislate for them of the religion what God did not authorise? If it were not for a decisive Word, judgement would have already been passed over them. Indeed, the transgressors shall have a painful punishment. 42:21 Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15). Such was the Sunna of God for those who passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God. 33:62 You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God, and you will find that there is no diversion from the Sunna of God. 35:43 The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message). 5:99 The same message is found in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48 and 64:12. But if they turn away, We did not send you as a guardian over them. Your sole duty (O Muhammad) is the delivery. 42:48 Say, "Have you seen what God has brought down to you of provisions, of which you have made some unlawful and some lawful?" Say, "Did God give you permission, or are you fabricating lies about God?" 10:59 The Word of your Lord has been completed, in truth and justice. None can change His Words. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable. 6:115 I'm just trying to help you :(
Walter Khayyam It would be clear they heard it because another Companion would confirm it too..It would not contradict the Quran.....He is asking Why Muhammad Pbuh.!!
+DiscoverALLAH7777777 There are thousands and thousands of Hadeeth, hundreds of collections of Hadeeth, as well as varying interpretations of each Hadeeth. Even if you could choose the correct ones and correctly interpret them without any chance of error, you would still be relying on 'faith' regarding the veracity of those Hadeeth in the first place. The Quran talks in allegory and metaphor, it is not difficult to find justification for almost any act using it's Ayahs. All that is needed is some linguistic skill and an ability with rhetoric.
Walter Khayyam No...Not faith..Because thry are chain narrations...Something Christians do not have...Thry regard all the 4 Gosple's to be divinely inspired when they are Hadeeth's that have been acceoted to be autgentic when their is no Chain Narration..
jésus warned us in the bible: if an angel comes after me with an other evangile, that he be curse, that he be curse. jésus said i am the last prophet, nobody comes to the father but by me. very clear, jésus warned about futur false prophet, he clearly said i am the last prophet, the last one. the "Ahmad" that muslim talks is a fraud, there is no "Ahmad" in the bible, this word doent even exist, read the bible you will see it by yourself, the throne of the antichrist in the bible is clearly written: PERGAME, which is turkey. and the kingdoms of the antichrist which will follow it are clearly written too: assyria (zone between syria and irak today), persia (iran today), koush (north sudan today), and libya and egypt. and they will try to destroy israel, a false jésus wil appear and will make miracles to deceive the world which will follow the beast (the false jésus), jésus warned us he was the last prophet, clealy, read the bible instead of theorising, the coran even denies the very most important thing from the bible, the fact jésus were crusified, read the bible you will see yourself.
DiscoverALLAH7777777 ...islam is not you fathers property ...i will practice it as i see fit and its between me and Allah...fuck off you jahil extremists in religion...
If anyone claims that he is following what is in the Qur’an, but at the same time he is not following the Sunnah, then he is contradicting himself, because the Qur’an enjoins us to follow the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and not to go against him. No one can worship Allah, may He be exalted, as Allah want except by following the Sunnah. If someone claims that he is following the Qur’an only - if that is possible - then how does he pray, fast, give zakaah on his wealth and perform Hajj and ‘umrah? The details of the rulings on these acts of worship are not mentioned in the Holy Qur’an; rather they are narrated in the prophetic Sunnah.
Abdul Rahman Following the Quran is following and obeying the sunna, the sunna of Allah and that never is changing its the same message Allah has sent with all his messengers(pbut). The Quran is complete. 39:18 Who listen to speech and follow the best of it. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding. ’We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). (Al-Hijr -Stone land-:9) If the Hadiths were guarded as Allah promised to guard the Quran then there would not be one fabricated Hadith. It was done on purpose to test people who they follow. 6:1 All praises and thanks be to Allah, Who (Alone) created the heavens and the earth, and originated the darkness and the light, yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord. We place veils over their hearts to prevent them from understanding it (Quran)and deafness in their ears, and when you commemorate your Lord in the Quran alone they turn their backs and run away in aversion. 17:46 3:78. And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah ," but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know. 6:144 Or were you witnesses when Allah charged you with this? Then who is more unjust than one who invents a lie about Allah to mislead the people by [something] other than knowledge? Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people." And the Messenger cried out: O my Lord! surely my people have treated this Quran as a forsaken thing. Ponder this verse please, who is the messenger talking about, what are the reasons the Quran is a forsaken thing. I'm a Muslim
Naz A cause if you disbelieve the hadiths entirely then you've just disregarded a numerous ayat in the quran which emphasised to follow and obey the messanger of Allah
Ali Ahmed obeying and following the messenger is not the same as following and obeying Bhukhari (Hadith). It’s the same argument every time from Hadith followers. You follow the messenger by following the message which is the Quran. Peace.
Naz A the prophet was not just a messenger in the sense of a postman who just delivered the quran he was the prime example of how to embody the teachings of the quran and live accordingly to it for references check surah alqalam ayah 4 and surah al imran ayah 31 and could go on and site many more aayat
How could Bukhari investigate 600 000 hadeeths in 16 years 600000/16 years= 37500 37500 / 12 month = 3125 3125/ 30 days = 104 hadeeths every day and this if he never sleep and never eat and travel with horse between countries and tribes Comon guys its so funny
45:6) These are Allah's verses that We narrate to you in Truth. In what kind of discourse after Allah and His verses will they, then, believe?8 answer the question The Qur’an is a book revealed by God that does not resemble hadiths at all. Nobody can come up with the Qur’an, as for hadiths, they can Wasn't it sufficient for them? We sent down the book to you, and it would be recited to them? Answer this question also if you can 14:1 “Alif, Lam, Ra. [This is] the Book which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], that you might bring mankind out of darknesses into the light by permission of their Lord - to the path of the Exalted in Might, the Praiseworthy “- Ponder and reflect on the verse ... the verse is clear and crystal clear ... and it means that the exit of people from darkness to light and then to the straight path is exclusively by the book. ... and people leaving the darkness to the light and then to the straight path is the highest goal, so if the servant attains that, what is our need for the prophetic Sunnah? Fear God and may God teach you Is piety scientific testimony or inside the heart? Answer if you can And if he was surprised, then he was surprised by their saying I do not attack you, but I bemoan you association the Sunnah with the Book and I invite you to the religion of Abraham, to be honest, and he was not among the polytheists If I tell you that prayer, zakat and all acts of worship are present in the Qur’an, then what is our need for the Sunnah?! ..... Do not be from those whom God said: (42:21) “Do they have any associates (of Allah) who have laid down for them a way pertaining to faith which Allah did not sanction?” Do not associate with God unless God has revealed authority, And do not answer me with a demonic answer, such as those who say: Obey God and obey the Messenger, evidence of the existence of the Prophet’s Sunnah. This is a vague answer and the Qur’an is clear and not vague. Sincerely review yourself, you will find the right path with the help of ALLAH
"تلك آيات الله نتلوها عليك بالحق فبأي حديث بعد الله و ءاياته يؤمنون "؟ جاوب على السؤال القرآن كتاب منزل من الله لا يشبه الأحاديث بتاتاً ،.. القرآن لا يستطيع ان يأتي أحد بمثله اما الأحاديث فيستطيعون "أولم يكفهم أنا أنزلنا عليك الكتاب يتلى عليهم "؟ جاوب على هذا السؤال أيضاً ان استطعت (الر كتاب أنزلناه اليك لتخرج الناس من الظلمات الى النور بإذن ربهم الى صراط العزيز الحميد) تدبر و تمعن في الآية... الآية واضحة وضوح الشمس... وتعني أن خروج الناس من الظلمات الى النور و ثم الى الصراط المستقيم يكون بالكتاب حصراً لاغير... وخروج الناس من الظلمات الى النور ثم الى الصراط المستقيم هو أسمى الغايات فلو نال العبد ذلك فما حاجتنا بالسنة النبوية ؟ اتقوا الله و يعلمكم الله هل التقوى بالشهادة العلمية ام بالقلب ؟ جاوب إن استطعت وإن تعجب فعجب قولهم أنا لا أهاجمك و لكني أتحسر على اشراكك بالسنة و أدعوك الى ملة ابراهيم حنيفاً وما كان من المشركين إذا قلت لك ان الصلاة و الزكاة و جميع العبادات موجودة بالقرآن فما حاجتنا الى السنة؟!..... فلا تكون من الذين قال الله عنهم : " أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ شَرَعُوا لَهُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ ۚ وَلَوْلَا كَلِمَةُ الْفَصْلِ لَقُضِيَ بَيْنَهُمْ ۗ وَإِنَّ الظَّالِمِينَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ " لا تشرك مع الله ما لم ينزل الله به من سلطان، و لا ترد علي بجواب شيطاني كاللذين يقولون وأطيعوا الله و أطيعوا الرسول دليل على وجود السنة النبوية فهذا جواب هلامي و القرآن واضح و ليس هلامي فقد أمرنا الله ان نؤمن به و بملائكته و رسله و كتبه .... لا وجود الى السنة النبوية في الإيمان فراجع نفسك باخلاص ستجد الحق باذن الله
A Book that has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it, it is a Reminder for the believers. You shall all follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3 Once again, we read in verses 7:2-3 clear instructions to follow the Quran and nothing else. Among the people, there is one who trades in baseless hadith to mislead others from the path of God without knowledge and he does it as a mockery. For these is a humiliating punishment. 31:6 And when Our revelations are recited to him, he turns away in arrogance as if he never heard them and as if there is deafness in his ears. Give him news of a painful punishment. 31:7 The words in 31:6-7 warn against following baseless hadith. Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37 In 68:37 God is mocking those who have other books than the Quran which they follow. So in which hadith besides it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50 In 77:50 we see yet another clear mockery aimed at all who follow other than the Quran.
lets dua and pray for unity of muslims. May God forbid and prevent this beautiful religion from becoming like Christianity whom instead of trying to follow the bible had been altered to fit into the western culture. Hopefully God grant each of us Hidayah and prevent people from trying to invent and create to fit into Arabic culture /norm or any individual culture.
Hadith literature and any past literature is important for linguistic purposes so we can understand the contexts and meanings derived from those words so we can understand the Quran and Arabic but the context isn't that important because we firstly have to take from Quran and when you arrive at a conclusion of what you understand from Quran then you can see the sense of looking at Hadith to see if your conclusions are mentioned anywhere in them But most Muslims use Hadith and opinions of scholars before contemplating on Quran first, scholars are only meant to give you the tools to extract the meanings of the Quran for yourselves not impose an understanding of what a person of the grave thought that you never met I.e Hadith talks about shaving the moustache is Sunnah because the messenger said it, but if you analyse the words used for it means wipe the moustache not shave , how? Because Allah uses the same word in Quran and it's implying wipe not shave So many Hadith have been misunderstood and its very well know Hadith writers were Jews because like today you pay people to record information, to those of a certain education and ability, so many wrote Hadith and inserted what I call taking the p** , and they're still laughing now at how gullible Muslims are Ok wipe the moustache could only mean , be presentable and not scruffy, today we use the term took your shirt in, etc So if you got milk on your moustache, or looks scruffy etc is all hinting at be presentable and have self respect You use how Allah has used his language to interpret the Quran not the other way around
You are right about Buchari being Jevish. They couldnt insert anything in the Quran as God protected it. So they came up with new innovations/writings years later. Thats exactly how christianity has been formed. It didnt work right away but took generations for true islam to fade away and drowning in multiplying lies attributed to it. And yes, they (disbelieving-people of Israil) are mastering manipulation through media. Whether it be in writing, oral and in todays world visual and psychological msnipulation. They created answers for almost everything. They created ways of praying, wudu, they even moved true Kaaba to new location after civil war broke out. It was closer to Jerusalem (City of Peace- Ibrahim asked God to make it city of peace) I have been researching and investigating this for few years now. Maybe about this topic another time. God willing, truth will preveil. Hadith creationist have totally twisted information and made it harder for people to accept true path. Peace.
People like the bearded guy are following man made books of people who have made a book of their opinions and the quranist guy kamran you will find one in a million you follow Quran alone and speak the truth , may Allah bless kamran
Recognising The Quran As The Word Of Allah Is MashAllah Guidance From Allah. Sincere Shahada Is What Makes You Muslim. Rasulullah, Nabi Muhammad SAW, Was The Final Prophet [Should Be Followed I.e. Sunnah] and Delivered The Quran [Should Be Followed I.e The Word Of Allah] Via Angel Jibreel MashAllah. I Think The Kamran Brother Should Reflect On What The Difference Between A Prophet Of Allah, and A Messenger Of Allah Is.
it is not about bukhari, it is about following prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) way of worship and every sort of commandment from Allah which is in the quran. It states in the quran An-Nisa' 4:13 تِلْكَ حُدُودُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَمَن يُطِعِ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ يُدْخِلْهُ جَنَّٰتٍ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَٰرُ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَاۚ وَذَٰلِكَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ These are the limits [set by] Allah, and whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger will be admitted by Him to gardens [in Paradise] under which rivers flow, abiding eternally therein; and that is the great attainment. The prophet Muhammads (pbuh) his companions and all the believers before bukhari compiled the prophets pbuh hadiths, people didnt need books to know the hadiths, they had great memory and understood the importance of the prophets pbuh actions and everything about him. Ofcourse we follow the quran however we also follow saheeh and hasan hadiths. May Allah guide us all
So when I was Christian the argument would be evangelists, protestant, catholic. Now it seems the only matter that keep us divided as human beings and arguing among each other it has to do with taking a shower and what parts of the body we do first and after. Before any of this, I want find God. This is so completely unnecessary. A brother walks into a mosque from jail after learning the Quran (true story) brothers in mosque be like "perfect wudu" etc... etc... I had to explain everything. Felt so pity for the guy the show no compassion. I heard he traced down his old steps. Perhaps I should off kept him closer we could have a friend and not those who feel a commitment to enter a place with a right foot exit with a left foot and judge their brothers.
It amuses me to watch Muslims argue over what is supposed to be a clear, detailed and fully explained book, especially when you know that the one banging on about the Sunnah will reject as "fabricated" any "sahih" hadith that does not support whatever argument he is making and will accept any weak hadith that does.
He just said “you’re trying to arabize it” Akhi it was sent down arabic. And let me tell from my limited arabic it is a complicated language not even close to English you really need to understand the quran in Arabic.
Mashallah to our brother on the left who is defending the Quran allone. We stand behind you.
Labeling someone as "Quranist" for following the Quran is unacceptable
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Someone who understands the importance of The God's oneness in authority, and His words as sole authority (especially for salvation), will always be better than someone who ascribes partners to The God and His words, and lives ignorantly off of conjecture.
Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? 6:114
"Fully detailed"
+ibrahim187:
so detailed, till you are so regret that you have circumcised, isn't it?
all those who deny the sunnah are kafirs
ibrahim187 The Sahabas had to be taught its explaination to the Sahabas..You think yiu can understand it by yourself...
Lorenzo Lamas The Quran is complete..Sunnah is the eye-witnessed and heard narrations of the Sahabas that saw and heard Muhammad pbuh's saying,Actions,
Approvals and Disapprovals!..
Widespread Chain Narrations are Sound and strong authenricated ones.
Qurani's are rejecting even strong Hadeeths .
I'm a sunni but this kind of argument is not a good way of going about it. "Do you think you're better than bukhari" isn't going to convince anyone. It's just an emotional plea.
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'Perhaps he could have responded with:
Why do YOU think Bukhari is 'better'. because he allegedly collected (alleged) rumors?
' Does collecting rumors/hearsay and churning them out, turn someone into a 'scholar'?
If one has never met/heard/observed the actual primary subject of your 'scholarly' work or even its like-minded companion-successors, how does one become an 'expert' on the subject?
@@brezbrez7845 scholar
Bukari is the biggest saitanist. He created another statement in association QUR'AN
Especially since being better than Bukhari is the easiest thing in the world to do, as he collected multiple hadith attacking the character of the prophet and even Allah.
God commands the believers to obey God and obey the messenger, but God also makes sure that the obedience to the messenger is linked to obeying the message he delivered and nothing else. Obeying the messenger does not mean that the messenger issued additional teachings outside of the Quran.
The confirmation that obeying the messenger is linked to obeying the message he delivered (the Quran) is given in the following verse:
Obey God and obey the messenger. If you shall turn away then the sole duty of the messenger is the clear delivery (of God's message). 64:12
The obedience to the messenger and the deliverance of the Quran are linked in the same verse. For more details on the meaning of "obey the messenger"
U tell me how to perform Hagie bcuz i cnt find it in the Quran.
Brilliant, yes, indeed. Another Khalid that thinks like me and has discovered a fundamental truth from the Quran. jzk
I do not appreciate the newly introduced phrase of Quranist as if its a negative term. A person who believes in the holy quran and follows its guidance is a Muslim by all means. Its inappropriate to write Muslim vs Quranist.
That's just your opinion. People can call 'em whatever they want.
Burhan Hashmi
Exactly ... like when a Muslim says to me "ah! I see! so you're a Quranist!!!" I say "Yeah ... of course ... what are you then? A Bible-ist!?!"
No one cares. Islam is a religion of hate, and I pity those whom believe in it, let alone other religions. It's truly sad.
Quranist is not Muslim Bro so the title is right
Ali Ahmed a muslim is one who submit to God. Its not one who follow bs hadith books
وَإِن تُطِعْ أَكْثَرَ مَن فِي الْأَرْضِ يُضِلُّوكَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ۚ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَخْرُصُونَ - 6:116 And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie.
And what does that prove?
@Iron Man
Indeed, the falsehood of hadith rejectors have been exposed.
Thanks for quoting the Ayah
Do you think Bhukari is better than Allah?
and how could you think that you are as the "Skin Surplus" people is better than Bukhari?
baco tongo skin surplus?
+RPNDLEADERSDOTCOM Africanuniondiasporadotorg:
if you are claim to be a muslim, have you circumcised?
majority of the inkarussunnah answer: "Yes i have".. but why?
don't you realize, there is no circumcision obligation/command mention on Qur'an.
that's why, your alias name is "Skin Surplus People".
+TECH Info:
wait.. wait..
why do you "inkarussunnah" always think that we "Qur'anist Hadeethist" reject the Qur'an?
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due to we believe and obey this verse:
[QS 45:6]
تِلْكَ آيَاتُ اللَّهِ نَتْلُوهَا عَلَيْكَ بِالْحَقِّ فَبِأَيِّ حَدِيثٍ بَعْدَ اللَّهِ وَآيَاتِهِ يُؤْمِنُونَ
These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement after Allah and His verses will they believe?
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so we try to fulfill this obligation:
[QS 3:31]
قل إن كنتم تحبون الله فاتبعوني يحببكم الله ويغفر لكم ذنوبكم والله غفور رحيم
Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah, then follow me (follow Rasulullah), [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
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by following hadeeth or sunnah from Rasulullah.
btw, how about you to obey & fulfill those obligations (those verses)? :-D
so, for us: Qur'an is an obligation that we must fulfill, while hadeeth or sunnah from Rasulullah is a necessity in order to fulfill the obligation of the Qur'an.
clear enough for you "oo .. inkarussunnah" ?
I've said this many times. Sunnis method of authentication are hafs & isnads (Arabian culture), Quranist method of authentication are "lack of errors & contradictions" (human culture). It's obvious which method is more logical & to top it off the Quran, which both parties swear is the " word of God", also advocates "lack of errors & contradictions" as the only method for authenticating. Any Sunni that claims we are obligated to follow hadith is forcing us to accept an Arabian authentication method over a much better one, which just so happens to be ordained by their own Deity. Could the answer be any more clear?
Abdul S. all you have just said is totally unrelated to the core subject of this discussion.
I do not authenticate Quran as divine literature via "chains of narrations" as Sunni's do. What justification do YOU have to use that method of justification other than your, or your ijma's, "whims & fancies"?
I authenticate the Quran's claim to divinity because of it's lack of contradictions. My justification does not just come from my "whims & fancies" it also comes from the very book you claim is divine.
If you object to my reasoning then you are also objecting to Allah's reasoning as well, for the Quran also tells us to authenticate it's divinity simply look for contradictions.
So tell me brother, exactly who is following"whims & fancies"?
It's nothing more than downright bullying to force someone to accept hadith based on your own authentication method.
I'm very content using the authentication method the Quran has provided me with as it seems quite logical. If you are satisfied with your Ijma's authentication methods then surely you must think your Ijma has better insight than the very book they claim is from God.
The cart does not usually lead the horse my friend, but we'll make an exception on behalf of all Sunni's the world over ok?
Your Ijma authenticates the books that authenticates them. Can you not see the Irony?
@@celestialknight2339 it calls my attention you are judging him too. Also you are not free of sin and haven't achieved Jenna jet. Rise argument with your brother. Thou "perhaps you think you know better than him". Have you ever considered if Allah favors him instead at the end of your dispute?
@@shanemahabirsingh7215 reference?
@@shanemahabirsingh7215 إِنَّآ أَنزَلۡنَٰهُ قُرۡءَٰنًا عَرَبِيّٗا لَّعَلَّكُمۡ تَعۡقِلُونَ
(Sahih International)
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.
-Sura Yusuf, Ayah 2
@@SJ-yd6zi I have no objection to that. The problem is that the Arabic language is not slave to the Arabian people. When the Qur'an is translated without hadeeth bias it confirms the quranist perspective. The Arabian culture should not dictate the way the Qur'an is translated. All Hadeeth followers believe that only the early Arabians post Bukhari has any authority to translate Qur'an. Yet the Arabic language existed prior to Quranic revelation so how can they claim authority over a language that existed long before they did? There is no verse of Qur'an that posits a system of belief dictated by hadeeth and it fully emphasises there is no other hadeeth that should be sought out for religious guidance. yet still they follow these hadeeth more determinedly than the very Qur'an itself. An instruction to obey a Messenger is an instruction to follow a Person. it is common sense. How did they take this to mean follow the assumed sayings of this person written by men over 200 years after his death. That's a huge jump which requires a lot of mental gymnastics and the only way they can justify it is not with logic but rather telling you that the biased Arabian Arabic is the only Arabic we need.
An English translation of the Quran - 6:114 "Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?" Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with the truth; so do not be of those who have doubt.
"oh wait bukhari & co need to write their own books 300+/- years later to complete the Quran.."
Bukhari was not the first person to write hadiths. Rather, he merely collected all the Sahih hadiths and put them together. Before Buhari, there was imam Malik, Imam ahmed and others who's books are widely used.
The problem with quranists is that they haven't studied the hadith sciences.
The muhaddiths don't just blindly follow bukhari, or any hadith compilers for this matter, rather they analyse the sanad. Like I said, learn about hadith science.
@Thora Adam how can u say that prophet Mohammed lived?
I’m not better than Bukhari.. But I’m sure Bukhari is not God. He wasn’t even born when Allah sends down his Quran.
I will follow Allah alone with his Quran (Message). Protected from corruption and contradiction.
alhamdulillah
astagfruallah
tosh, u r definetly better the bukhari n all the Hadith writers, because Allah has open yr heart to the truth.
Bro .how do you make salaah .in quran
bro read the English translation of the Qur'an by 'Sam Gerrans'. it is not the ritual of bowing and prostration, read the Qur'an to understand what Allah is saying, Visit the site of 'Quran Centric' what is salaah in the Qur'an, and read the book 'will you not reason' by said Mirza. Seek Allah's Mercy, guidance and ask for knowledge.
I watched a few Quranist vs Sunnist and those that follow the follow sunnah don't make strong enough points to show Quranist they are incorrect
all those who deny the sunnah are kafirs
TECH Info this is not the context of the verses so please correct yourself
dont waste time with misguided quranist
jaggafeen True
Misguided quranist? you do realise you have just insulted the Quran. They follow the Quran does not make them kuffar, what has the world come to
The sad part is the guy with the beard quoted nothing but man Mande Hadiths while the guy who defended Allah quoted nothing but the Quran. Who is misguided here? The guy with the beard kept his testimony with bukhri while the man without beard kept his testimony with Allah
I'm trying to figure out when the collection of Hadith became a science.
@Thora Adam who are you asking.?
@Thora Adam
Your question on if you would rather quote from your own heart about the quran or from bukhari is irrelevant. Bukhari isnt quoting anything from the quran. The whole argument in the video is about Hadith being contradictory to the quran, and that bukhari was a person, who was prone to making mistakes, and the authenticity of hadith.
That is what they are discussing in the video.
Hope this helps.
@Thora Adam where did I question the authenticity of the quran or Hadith. ?
But Quran says follow hadith sooooi?
The Quranist points to the sky and says, "Allah says."
The Bukharist says "the scholars say."
Salam alikum, I want to meet more quranists are u in Australia brother?
وَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ وَٱلدَّوَآبِّ وَٱلۡأَنۡعَٰمِ مُخۡتَلِفٌ أَلۡوَٰنُهُۥ كَذَٰلِكَۗ إِنَّمَا يَخۡشَى ٱللَّهَ مِنۡ عِبَادِهِ ٱلۡعُلَمَٰٓؤُاْۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَزِيزٌ غَفُورٌ
(Sahih International)
And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah, from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.
-Sura Fatir, Ayah 28
Allah uses the word 'ulama'.
And we dont believe in following the scholars blindly, we look at the proofs that they give for whatever they say.
The people who claim to be 'Quran only' and one of the least educated people when it comes to Quran. Most, if not all of them, rely on translations, which in turn rely on hadiths.
- Prophet Muhammad himself commanded his people not to write his hadith, this is documented in the collection of 'Muslim' and other books:
"Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7147)
rob emmanuel: You came up with a correct answer when you quoted this hadith from Muslim ( sorry, i will not call it Sahih or Authentic) but these hadiths lovers are brainwashed up to a limit that they will come up with a vague argument that this prohibition was for a limited time and once the Quran was complete; the prohibition order was withdrawn.
I will simply ask them to turn to Surah Al Furqan, 25:30. when on the day of Judgment prophet will say to Allah that my people had ABANDONED QURAN. He will not say that Quran and my Sunah or Quran and Hadith and my Sunah.
Teddy spot on mate
Some hadith scholars tried to imply that Muhammed changed his view about writing the hadiths. However, the following hadith, which was reported 30 years after the death of the Prophet, confirms that Prophet Muhammed never authorised the writing of the hadiths after he instructed his followers not to write anything other than the Quran.
(2) From Ibn Hanbal;
Zayd Ibn Thabit (The Prophet's closest revelation writer) visited the Khalifa Mu'aawiyah (more than 30 years after the Prophet's death), and told him a story about the Prophet. Mu'aawiyah liked the story and ordered someone to write it down. But Zayd said. " the messenger of God ordered us never to write anything of his hadith".
(3) The famous book, "Ulum Al-Hadith" by Ibn Al-Salah, reports a hadith by Abu Hurayra in which Abu Hurayra said the Messenger of God came out to us while we were writing his hadiths and said; "What are you writing?" We said, "hadiths that we hear from you, messenger of God." He said, "A book other than the book of God?" We said, "Should we talk about you?" He said, Talk about me, that would be fine, but those who will lie will go to Hell. Abu Hurayra said, we collected what we wrote of hadiths and burned them in fire.
(4) In the famous book, "Taq-yeed Al-Ilm", Abu Hurayra said, the Messenger of God was informed that some people are writing his hadiths. He took to the pulpit of the mosque and said, "What are these books that I heard you wrote? I am just a human being. Anyone who has any of these writings should bring it here. Abu Hurayra said we collected all these and burned them in fire.
(5) Ibn Hanbal in his Musnad book, narrates a hadith in which Abdullah Ibn Omar said, "the Messenger of God one day came out to us as if he was going to depart us soon and said, "When I depart you (die), hold to the book of God, prohibit what it prohibits and accept as halal what it makes halal."
(6) Again, in the book "Taq-yeed Al-Ilm", Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said, " I asked the Messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, but he refused to give me a permission."
(7) The farewell Pilgrimage of Prophet Muhammed is a corner stone in the Muslim history. The Final Sermon given by the Prophet during this pilgrimage was witnessed by thousands of Muslims. There are however three versions of this sermon in the hadiths books. This by itself reflects the degree of inconsistency of the hadith books as this is the most witnessed speech of Prophet Muhammed.
1- First version, " I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God and my family. Moslim 44/4, Nu2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319.
This is the version upheld by the Shia Muslims.
2-Second version, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God and my sunnah" . Muwatta, 46/3
This is the version upheld by the Sunni Muslims.
3- Third version, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of God." Moslim 15/19, nu 1218; Ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56.
This last version is the version hated by the Sunni and Shia Muslims alike. This is the only version which conforms with the repeated assertion in the Quran that Muhammed's message was only the Quran. Many Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims do not even know that the last version of the sermon exists. In reality, they do not want to know, the truth hurts.
rob emmanuel LOL thank you because you just proved the authenticity of the Hadith in 2 ways. First is the fact that you actually acknowledge this Hadith itself, and the other traditions that you cited below, which means your entire worldview is self-destroyed. And if you were just citing them to make a point to those of us who accept Hadith, then your argument is still absurd & invalid, since 1,000+ years of Muslims theologians & Hadith scholars are aware of this Hadith...yet they still affirm the inspiration & authority of the authentic Hadith.
And the second way you have affirmed the Hadith is because this statement of the Prophet (pbuh) is referring to when someone wants to actually write down the Quran in order to teach others or as a personal copy- the words of the Prophet (saw) should be left out of the margins or as in text references, *LEST THE PROPHET’S HADITH/TRADITIONS CREEP INTO THE TEXT OF THE QURAN AND BE INTERMIXED.* In other words, the Prophet (saw) is saying “I KNOW that you hear my words and statements and wisdom and wish to remember them and understand them as you study Quran. But make sure that if you set out to write the Quran, they you do not write down my prophetic statements alongside it, so that they are properly separated and not mixed together.”
Thus the Hadith fails to support your argument, in fact contradicts it, and it doesn’t matter either way for you since you reject Hadith- or, you accept this one Hadith, which still means your argument is invalid since you have cherry-picked which Hadith to accept and which to reject based on your whims and desires. May Allah (swt) guide you to the truth. Ameen.
*”...And We have sent down to YOU [O Muhammad] the Remembrance [i.e the Quran] SO THAT YOU MAY CLEARLY EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHAT HAS BEEN SENT DOWN TO THEM, and that they may GIVE THOUGHT.” (Quran **16:44**, The Bee)*
Abdul,S ,Exactly 16:44 .And We have sent down to YOU [O Muhammad] the REMINDER SO THAT YOU MAY CLEARLY EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHAT HAS BEEN SENT DOWN TO THEM, and that they may GIVE THOUGHT.” the reminder is the QURAN and the prophet did not contradict the Quran as 9 out of 10 hadiths do contradict the QURAN ,and Allah knows best
The brother on the left is spot on and showing true guidance from Allah in my humble opinion....I believe the same. And it came to me by intuition during one Ramadan after I made dua to Allah to reveal the truth to me....I started stumbling upon certain surah’s and things that I overlooked before seemed clear as day! It clearly says the Qur’an is complete and easy to understand....it has clear signs and everything is included in His book....all laws are in the Qur’an and that we should only take Qur’an as a book of Islamic law, plus Allah gives us examples of Jews and Christians doing the same thing with the books of their scholars by following them over the book of Allah.....the evidence is just blatantly overwhelming and when you present it to them they skim over it like it aint there or ask you a question that has nothing to do with the point you just made about the Qur’anic verses to try throw you off. They can never answer the verses and start quoting scholars or reciting Qur’an or Hadith in Arabic in order to sound knowledge and throw the arguing track....when backed into a corner they will start saying things like....you know better than the companions?? It’s the same thing they can’t see that Allah is talking about them in the Qur’an when He tells us of the ones gone astray....Allah says everything is in His book and they say not everything is in there so we need Hadith....so I must believe a man over what Allah says in His book? I was a Christian many years ago and they do the exact same thing yet most Muslims can’t see they are almost a carbon copy.....tell a Christian Issa didn’t eat pork and they will skip it like you never said it and either ask you a question or some other diversion....same thing blatantly having selective understanding when it comes to Allahs Book and making out certain obvious verses don’t mean what they clearly do!
Exact & all spot on!
A carbon copy exact thing i have tried to say previously coming from Christianity its all so familiar!!
but that is a great terminolgy brother! Well said.
Oh how glad 😄 it makes seeing fellow Muslims wake up!!!
Peace be with you my true muslim brothers n sisters
@@TheQuranExplainsItself
Peace with you too brother!!
Alhamdulillah
Well , ill be frank with u dear
Im not a scholar 👨🏫 , im just regular Muslim
Ur talk didn’t make sense form me
U said everything we need is in the Quran and u mean by that indirectly
We don’t need the hadith
If that’s right , so continue reading plz
1sr point u have to realize that the Quran is the book of signs not Science
2nd point> it’s mention in the Quran that we have to follow our prophet and do what he does and don’t do what he doesn’t do
So logically we can’t ignore the hadith
3d point in the Quran it says we have to pray but doesn’t show u how to pray
The sam with ramadan the same with hajee .. ect
4th point always and everywhere, either u should be a student and follow what ur teacher tells u OR u can be a teacher and discuss with other teachers
I mean by that u can’t just be a student and u wanna argue with ur teacher and claiming that u know exactly like ur teacher , that’s no respect
So at the end
It’s clearly we need both of them Quran and Hadith plus we need the opinions of other scholars who are really spent their life for studying what Allah saya and what his messenger says and what really the meaning behind every verse
Thank u
Instead of debating with Christian scholars, why don't the traditional Muslim scholars like Zakir Naik or Nouman Ali Khan debate with Quran only Muslim scholars? I've heard requests have been made, but declined. These guys don't have all the facts in their arguments. Seems to me though the Quran only believer made a better argument. May God guide us to what is best. Respect each other's doubts.
well done to the Quranic brother you have smashed it with real verses subhanAllah.
the beard argument again.. everytime they use it and they think by it they can convice people that they are not following the prophet.. sometimes I get so frustrated with the people.. stupidity hurts..
i got no knowledge about hadith but no one has answered this
- so what about the people that never got to read bukahri's books( the people that never met bukhari or the prophet(SAW) as there was a 300 year gap in between). so this is big flaw
as for salah i will got knowledge of my masjid teacher so as i dont recall him showing bukhari book to any one of us.
@@aqeel-3771 it is not about bukhari, it is about following prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) way of worship and every sort of commandment from Allah which is in the quran.
It states in the quran
An-Nisa' 4:13
تِلْكَ حُدُودُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَمَن يُطِعِ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ يُدْخِلْهُ جَنَّٰتٍ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَٰرُ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَاۚ وَذَٰلِكَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ
These are the limits [set by] Allah, and whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger will be admitted by Him to gardens [in Paradise] under which rivers flow, abiding eternally therein; and that is the great attainment.
The prophet Muhammads (pbuh) his companions and all the believers before bukhari compiled the prophets pbuh hadiths, people didnt need books to know the hadiths, they had great memory and understood the importance of the prophets pbuh actions and everything about him.
Ofcourse we follow the quran however we also follow saheeh and hasan hadiths.
I pray for guidance for this ummah.
@@aqeel-3771 Bukhari was not the first person to write hadiths. Rather, he merely collected all the Sahih hadiths and put them together. Before Buhari, there was imam Malik, Imam ahmed and others who's books are widely used.
The problem with quranists is that they haven't studied the hadith sciences.
The muhaddiths don't just blindly follow bukhari, or any hadith compilers for this matter, rather they analyse the sanad. Like I said, learn about hadith science.
@@-hs6vz is this correct? Obey the messenger ? What made the prophet Muhammad pbuh more important than previous messengers? I notice that pbuh is necessary for them yet jesus is mentioned normally. Islam is not about rituals yet alot of the hadiths suggest rituals but when the debate is with Christian's the very people supporting hadiths dismiss the bible because it was written by men who never jesus!!!
@@SJ-yd6zi "hadith science" lmao.
Brother in the left, subhannalah he is going through the way of all the prophets!! Defending the scriptures
This Muslim who follows Quran alone, knows what he is talking about. Why? because he's speaking from the Quran, and not from man made doctrine. Alhamdullilah, may Allah reward you brother.
man made doctrine?? are you serious, the hadith is the speech of prophet Muhammad, how are you gonna pray/fast/ perform hajj if you reject hadith. also Allah said obey me and my messenger.
12345 67890 because Allah tells us to pray, to fast and to perform hajj. And yes the Hadith is man made doctrine if it's not from Allah. So yes I am VERY serious. How to perform hajj is in Surat hajj and in chapter 5. how to pray is in chapters 2, 17, 23, 22 & 4. And I'm Sure it's in many more places as well. And how to fast is in chapter ( 2:183), chapter 49, and chapter 97. And yes we are supposed to follow the messenger, and that is what we do when we follow Quran, because the Quran was the ONLY thing the messenger followed. And yes the words of Hadith are man written because man wrote them telling you that they are the words of prophet Muhammad sws (PBUH) when they have no proof at all what so ever...if they are not the words of prophet Muhammad sws PBUH from the Holy Quran then they are not trust worthy enough to be followed. EVERYTHING that prophet Muhammad sws said is in the QURAN. When it says "say:" everytime then we know Prophet Muhammad said it. But if it ain't in the Quran we can not trust it.
the quran and hadith was narrated by the same people, for you to claim it is man made then thats no different to saying the same for the Quran. Allah commanded us to obey him and his messenger, so how will you obey Allah if you reject hadith which are the saying of prophet Muhammad and how will you perform hajj and pray although Allah comamands it isnt detailed in the quran the details are in the hadith.
i suggest you learn the religion correctly before making such ignorant and uneducated statements.
wow now that is something new " EVERYTHING that prophet Muhammad sws said is in the QURAN" the quran is the speech of Allah and Hadith is the speech of prophet mohammad, hadith has a chain of narration and so does the quran, it was narated by the same people it is hypocritical to reject one or the other, il ask you this how can you trust the quran when you doubt the hadith since the same people narrated it.
12345 67890 you didn't read my comment, the people who narrated the Quran did not write the Hadith. That's is what I'm telling you. And Allah tells us EVERYTHING Muhammad said in the Quran when He say "say (O Muhammad):" and the Prophets way is no different then Allah's way. How could there ways be different. Everything that is in the Quran is what the prophet did and said, because that was the only book he followed. He didn't follow one thing and then go and say something completely different. What is the matter with you. He spoke from the Quran, no where else. And the Hadiths go against the Quran in so many ways so how could he have said the things that they say he said in Hadith when I goes against Quran? I trust the Quran because it has no mistakes , includes everything and has no contradictions or errors. It is a book that has been made in divine design and there is only ONE divine and that is Allah SWT. That's how I know the Quran is from Him. Regardless on who narrated it, I know the MESSAGE is from Him. But Hadith lies and have so many contradictions and errors in it. And that is why it is not trust worthy to be followed. And prophet Mohammed was not a man of contradiction and error. That is how I know that the Hadith are not from him. And you said it's hypocritical for me to follow one thing and not follow the other? You can't compare something that has contradictions and errors in it to something that is divine. The Quran is divine the Hadith is not therefore you can't compare it. And it's hypocritical for you to be a Muslim and say that the Christians are wrong and so are the Jews for following man made doctrine but yet you go head and do the same thing when you follow the Hadith which was also man made. Islam only has one book of guidance and that's the Quran.
When Allah says the Quran is complete, enough and easy to understand, I believe Allah. Not your bukhari
Ahhh the end was getting good! good content.
those on the right path are always attacked by gangs of stray people. The Quran is all you need. Allah know best.
Right. And Quran commands us to follow the understanding of Quran that was taught by his Prophet S.A.W.
If the Quran is all you need then why was it not revealed on a mountain?
@@nothanks8594 this you need to ask Allah.
@@HingalshDealer
It’s a retorical question
@@nothanks8594 bruh. Never a saw retorical question like that
To the Quranist here, can I say that we can use hadiths only to explore the historical context of Muhammad ?? Hadith, from my perspective, can't be applied in the modern age. It's just the story about Muhammad and what all he said is mostly about the situation and condition in Arabia, the Arabs, and the circumstances creating the logical thinking of Muhammad at the time.
Before Bukhari finished collecting the hadiths, Muslims never had problems practising Islam, besides that not all Bukhari hadiths are shahih, a lot of them are weak or dhaif.
And your point is....?
His point is clear I think. If you believe every Hadith in Bukhari amongst others is what the prophet Muhammad pbuh has said, then you’re not being honest with yourself.
@Thora Adam Read Quran. Most hadiths are weak, contradict Quran. Our prophets never approved them. Nowadays most Muslims and Clerics talk about hadiths but rarely about Quran. Irony.
[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. (The Quran is saying here that it’s complete, meaning it’s stand-alone and doesn’t need Hadith to complete it)
[6:38] We did not leave anything out of the Book. (No detail was left out of the Quran).
[45:6] These are the verses of God which We recite to you in truth. So in what hadith after God and His verses will they believe?
[77:50] So in which hadith besides it do they believe? (This is a rhetorical question that conveys the point that no Hadith besides the Quran should be believed in)
[39:23] God has brought down the Best Hadith; a Book that is consistent in its repetitions.
[17:46] And We place veils over their hearts so they would not understand it, and deafness in their ears, and when you commemorate your Lord in the Quran alone they turn their backs and run away in aversion. (We are told to commemorate God in the Quran alone).
Does the battery die or sumtin these vids end abruptly...and no part 2
bukhari was a wicked man, who claimed that the prophet was bewitched, or at least claimed this hadith was sahih. bukhari 3175
The Quran warns that wicked men will say that the prophet was bewitched. 17:47- We are Best Aware of what they wish to hear when they give ear to thee and when they take secret counsel, when the evil-doers say: Ye follow but a man bewitched.
lol. do you know that the majority of Qur'an alone Muslims reject Rashad Khalifa? He became a kaafir because he removed two verses of the Qur'an.
zepeterinma yes he was and that’s why he wrote in first page of the book “not to rewrite anything in the book”. He will be punished! He is a non believer who committed a blasphemy against Allah. And anyone who follows his teaching is participating in the blasphemy against Allah. May Allah guide us on the right path: the Quran!
Rashad khalifa should have just logically just made the conclusion that his 19 pattern only fits with the verses that start with bismillah? Or that there was just a small anomaly so that people could ignore the other 99% if they so wanted to? He could have said "i dont know". Just goes to show if someone is going to fall due to arrogance, it will happen no matter who you are
Allah says "In which hadeeth other than God and his revelation do they believe?
Sunni muslim: imam bukhari and muslim and tirmidi and imam shafi imam ahmed hannibal and imam hanifa and the list goes on. WHY???
Whatever the debate is , it should be done in a more respectful and calm manner especially a religious one to protect the unity. It's not about I am right and you are wrong, it's about having a meaningful discussion and maybe coming with a better conclusion than our individual opinions.
Problem is religious people.
Masha Allah he stood his ground with good augmented against these traditionest small minded Muslims.
What's the name of the person on the left??? i need to reach him.
czcams.com/video/dV4Oogq0djw/video.html
should be the title... " HADITHIAN VS ANTI-HADITH" ;)
That's stupid
@@freedomforthebrave uP
Allah is not the author of confusion.
Where's the rest of this discussion?
He thinks quran came only for arabs they already mixed their own culture to the religion 😂 god says to all of humanity guidance.
These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you truthfully. In which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6
Or have they not looked at the realm of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created, and that perhaps their time may be drawing near? Which hadith after this (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185
God has brought down the Best Hadith; a Book (Quran) that is consistent in its frequent repetitions. 39:23
So in which hadith besides it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50
Or do you have some other book in which you are studying? 68:37
All the above verses contain the same clear commandment; not to follow any source of religious guidance and law other than the Quran.
The Quran has all the details we need:
Shall I seek other than God as a law maker when He has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114
6:114 contains clear confirmation that:
- God is the only law maker.
- The Quran has all the details.
Further confirmation that the Quran has all the details we need is given in the following verse:
This (Quran) is not fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what is with you, a detailed account of all things and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111
We did not leave anything out of the Book; then to their Lord they will be summoned. 6:38
We have brought the Book down to you providing explanations for all things plus guidance and mercy, and giving news to the Muslims (submitters to God). 16:89
Okay, follow sunnah
@thoraadam9049Hadith is more important than Quran? 😂😂
He said he takes the prophets hadith from the Quran , that says it all. The Quran is only Allahs words
First thing is hadiths are not from prophets
whoever read bukhari's hadith book, obviously, the man in the left is far better than Bukhari. Why? If Bukhari know and understand the Quranic teaching, logically he wouldn't write hadith which contradict the Quranic teaching, isn't it?
The title of the video should be "Muslim VS Hadithist"...
Quran Centric Haha good one😂
If the Quran alone was enough why was it presented and taught to us by the best of creation. Why was it not left on the Earth to be discovered? This is because Muhammad (pbuh) was sent as an example and sahih hadith helps us gain a better understanding of how he lived and acted/reacted in any given situation. If these non muslim muslims followed the hadith they wouldn't have to interpret it with their own feeble minds and make a big mess off it.
- Prophet Muhammad himself commanded his people not to write his hadith, this is documented in the collection of 'Muslim' and other books:
"Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7147)
in the objective one, it should be: "Qur'anist Hadeethist VS Qur'anist", or "Qur'anist Hadeethist VS Inkarussunnah".
you are so clever so give us the surah where it says sunna of mohamad
who bhukari. ...The prophet never said to let the scholars decide what actually Allah wants after him...
Bashir Ahmad The Scholars are those who inherit the Deen from the Companions of Muhammad pbuh.who were the Example of how to follow him to worship Allah..They are of the 3 rightly guided Generations the Salaf of Ahl Al Sunnah Wal Ja'maa'h hold firm to....Guessing you are a deviant Ahmedi....
DiscoverALLAH7777777 check the quran and see by yourself what Allah say about the scholars.
+Bashir Ahmad:
have you circumcised??
if you have been circumcised since you were a child, blame and ask for compensation to your parents.
because of course your parents will not find the obligation or command of circumcision in the Qur'an, so why they did that to you? they are very unjust and very opposing Allah.
baco tongo If a rule is not in the quran, it is NOT an obligation. Period. Allah tell us that we need to beleive only in HIM without idolizing ANYBODY. do salat, give charity, fast in ramadan, do hajj if we can, do good deeds and avoid sin. Thats it! that's what we need to do. Other rules and obligations are a bida. If circumcision is not in the quran, it is not important. It become only something for hygiene, nothing else. The hadiths are an association to Allah. Associating anything to HIM is worst than shaving beard, eating with left hand, and other stupid interdictions the hadith tell us. Peace and may Allah guide and forgive us nshallah.
satriani you don't your own book do you
maybe they should stop shouting at each other, thats not how a healthy discussion should look like
Are you saying Allah forgot to put things in the Quran? That he’s wrong when he says his book is full and complete with details for everything? A guide? Allah said if the oceans were ink and trees were pens his words would never run out! Alhamdulillah!
THE BEST HADEETH
Thank you brother, i totally understand what your saying, I only follow the Qur'an for the last few years!
Many Mazabs. Many Hadiths.Many scholars from different groups each autheticate their own version.
People never learn from the people of the previous book. How sects came about in Christianity is exactly this way..
وَإِذَا لَمْ تَأْتِهِم بِآيَةٍ قَالُوا لَوْلَا اجْتَبَيْتَهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَتَّبِعُ مَا يُوحَىٰ
إِلَيَّ مِن رَّبِّي هَٰذَا بَصَائِرُ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ
(7:203) And whenever you do not bring them a verse (for instance to answer their questions), they say: “Why didn’t you make up one?!” Proclaim (O Muhammad): “I follow exclusively (انما = exclusive particle) what isrevealed to me from my Lord”!
Quran emphasize strongly to study history and to reflect. Christians, jews all were divided because of narrations.
The Qurani is 100% right tbh
Does not understand Arabic but ok
what?
True. But hadith rejector are 100% wrong tbh
If muslim rejected hadiths it's mean they rejected QS 23:44, in the Quran not saying to believe in (book of) hadiths, Quran says to take the excent pattern of the Messenger of Allah QS 33:21, that's should finish the problem. and bonus QS 3:31 if you love Allah and want Allah love you back, it's so simple follow Muhammad PBUH and take his excelent pattern.
Allah SWT berfirman:
اَوَلَمْ يَكْفِهِمْ اَنَّاۤ اَنْزَلْنَا عَلَيْكَ الْكِتٰبَ يُتْلٰى عَلَيْهِمْ ۗ اِنَّ فِيْ ذٰلِكَ لَرَحْمَةً وَّذِكْرٰى لِقَوْمٍ يُّؤْمِنُوْنَ
a wa lam yakfihim annaaa anzalnaa 'alaikal-kitaaba yutlaa 'alaihim, inna fii zaalika larohmataw wa zikroo liqoumiy yu`minuun
"Apakah tidak cukup bagi mereka bahwa Kami telah menurunkan kepadamu Kitab (Al-Qur'an) yang dibacakan kepada mereka? Sungguh, dalam (Al-Qur'an) itu terdapat rahmat yang besar dan pelajaran bagi orang-orang yang beriman."
(QS. Al-'Ankabut 29: Ayat 51)
Maaf mas apakah ada ayat Al Qur'an menyuruh kita membaca hadis?
Hadis adalah man made buatan manusia..
Penuh kontradiksi dengan ajaran Al Qur' an
Assalamualaikum@@rizkimp02 ,
atas kehendak Allah ahadits tsb ada, baik dalam AlQuran mau pun tidak, sebelum AlQuran pun sudah ada ahadits tentang para rasul-rasulNya.
Sudah sepatutnya mengambil tauladannya, tidak baik mencemo'oh ahadits, kisah riwayat tentang para rasul Allah.
QS 23:44
Kemudian, Kami utus rasul-rasul Kami berturut-turut. Setiap kali seorang rasul datang kepada suatu umat, mereka mendustakannya, maka Kami silih gantikan sebagian mereka dengan sebagian yang lain (dalam kebinasaan). Dan Kami jadikan mereka bahan cerita (ahadits). Maka binasalah bagi kaum yang tidak beriman.
QS 33:21
Sungguh, telah ada pada (diri) Rasulullah itu suri teladan yang baik bagimu (yaitu) bagi orang yang mengharap (rahmat) Allah dan (kedatangan) hari Kiamat dan yang banyak mengingat Allah.
@@gigung9458 maaf begini mas saya tahu anda pikir saya sesat..
Oke hadis memang perlu tapi apakah nabi melakukan hal yg diluar Al Qur'an seperti membunuh musuh tanpa melawan? Siksa kubur? Membunuh cicak? Membunuh murtad? Dsb..
@@gigung9458 Allah berfirman Al Qur'an detail/rinci
Allah SWT berfirman:
اَفَغَيْرَ اللّٰهِ اَبْتَغِيْ حَكَمًا وَّهُوَ الَّذِيْۤ اَنْزَلَ اِلَيْكُمُ الْـكِتٰبَ مُفَصَّلاً ۗ وَالَّذِيْنَ اٰتَيْنٰهُمُ الْـكِتٰبَ يَعْلَمُوْنَ اَنَّهٗ مُنَزَّلٌ مِّنْ رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَـقِّ فَلَا تَكُوْنَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِيْنَ
a faghoirollaahi abtaghii hakamaw wa huwallaziii anzala ilaikumul-kitaaba mufashsholaa, wallaziina aatainaahumul-kitaaba ya'lamuuna annahuu munazzalum mir robbika bil-haqqi fa laa takuunanna minal-mumtariin
"Pantaskah aku mencari hakim selain Allah, padahal Dialah yang menurunkan Kitab (Al-Qur'an) kepadamu secara rinci? Orang-orang yang telah Kami beri Kitab mengetahui benar bahwa (Al-Qur'an) itu diturunkan dari Tuhanmu dengan benar. Maka janganlah kamu termasuk orang-orang yang ragu."
(QS. Al-An'am 6: Ayat 114)
Okay saya jelaskan bukhari imam muslim dkk lahir 250 setelah kematian nabi.. Semua orang persia..
Perkembangan buku dan teknologi awalnya dipegang oleh mutazilah dan djbanggakan oleh islam pada jaman abbasiyah dan diturunkan oleh islam sunni, tapi ulama sunni menganggap mereka sesat dan muncul bukhari dsb..
Memang banyak hadis2 yg bermanfaat.
Tapi coba cek
-Membunuh cicak
-Membunuh murtad
-Menggauli budak saat kalah perang walaupun itu sudah bersuami
-membunuh 900 yahudi di madinah
-siksa kubur
-nabi muhammad menggauli budak mariah di Kamar hafsah kemudian hafsah marah dan nabi bersumpah mengharamkan mariah (kitab tabbari asbabun nuzul at thamrin : 1)
-menikahi aisyah diumur 6 tahun (cacian karena pedofil)
-mendapatkan konstatinopel dan roma (kalifah usman menjajah konstatinopel dengan perang)
-nabi muhammad diberikan kotoran untuk (maaf) cebok
-nabi mengirim utusan untuk membunuh
-seorang perempuan dicincang perutnya oleh sahabat2 nabu
-1 kampung dibkar hidup2 abu bakar karena murtad
-isbal masuk neraka
-siapa yg tidak memegang sunnah bunuhlah
-jika ada yg lewat depan solat dan ngotot bunuhlah
-anjing hitam bunuhlah
Masih banyak lagi..
Apakah itu ajaran islam? Anda sudah cek Al Qur'an itu kontradiksi tdk?
Quranist Brother:- Peace. ARGUMENT is not encouraged. Follow what is revealed to you and your heart will guide you to the right path with his will. Trust HIM and him alone.
they are not quranists. they are muslims ! they follow the message of Allah (quran)
kadhdd sumsha
16:37) (O Muhammad), howsoever eager you may be to show them the Right Way, Allah does not bestow His guidance on those whom He lets go astray; and in fact none will be able to help them
And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam, and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.” [Al-An’aam, 6:125]
Say: It is Allah Who guides to the truth.” [Yunus, 10:35]
And they will say: All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has guided us to this, never could we have found guidance, were it not that Allah guided us!” [Al-A’araaf, 7:43]
Verily! You (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills.” [Al-Qasas, 28:56]
So whosoever receives guidance, he does so for the good of his own self, and whosoever goes astray, he does so to his own loss.” [Yunus, 10:108]
But Shaytan wishes to lead them astray.” [An-Nisaa’, 4:60]
Allah said.obay.him and obay his messenger , how do.we obay his.messenger? You.say you.are.a.muslim, it's ok, a muslim must practice praying, fasting, zakat, hadj, how do we practice these acts only by.reading quran?
Djamal DOUAR
“We sent no Messenger except to be obeyed by Allah’s permission. If only when they wronged themselves they had come to you and asked Allah’s forgiveness and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them they would have found Allah Ever-Returning, Most Merciful.”
(4:64)
All messengers Allah sent were leaders of their people they judged and taught from what they were sent in their Books.
Say: ‘I am nothing new among the Messengers. I have no idea what will be done with me or you. I only follow what has been revealed to me. I am only a clear warner.’”
(46:9)
“Surely We have revealed/descended the Book (Qur’an) to you with the truth that you may judge between people by means of that which Allah has showed/taught you; and be not an advocate on behalf of the treacherous.”
(4:105)
First version (upheld by the Shia Muslims):
1st version
The Messenger of Allah said, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of Allah and ‘itrati’ (my family).” (Moslim 44/4, Nu2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; darimi 23/1, nu 3319).
2- Second version (upheld by the Sunni Muslims):
The Messenger of Allah said, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of Allah and my Sunna." (Muwatta, 46/3).
3- Third version (ignored by Sunni’s and Shia):
The Messenger of Allah said, "I left for you what if you hold on to, you will never be misguided, the book of Allah." (Moslim 15/19, nu 1218; Ibn Majah 25/84, Abu dawud 11/56).
Say: 'I possess for you no harm or guidance to the right direction.
I'm still studying I am searching for the truth.
"Such was the sunna of God for those who have passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the sunna of God."33:62
ALI, the fourth Caliph, pronounced the following statement in a khutba:
Those who possess with them pages of hadiths should destroy them. For what causes havoc among people is their abandonment of the book of God and in abiding by the injunctions of the scholars.34 (Jama e Biyaan ul Ilm, narrated by Abdullah bin Ye’saar)
Men do evil things for different reason , money, power, fame, respect, love. people sin because they don't fear Allah they don't believe in judgement day
Djamal DOUAR
Give me the Hadith you learned to pray from please. I'm assuming your parents didn't teach you about praying. At what age did you start following the Hadith to pray?
Alhumdulillah
Bukhari is very well known for narating hadith. But he isn't well known for understanding Quran. I think that is why we can't take everything Bukhari said, because we should put Quran first.
And what proof do you have that imam bukhari was not well known for 'understanding Quran'?
@@SJ-yd6zi the proof is what he write that contradict quran. Dont take my words, find scholar who know better for this matter, like hassan farhan al maliki.
@@gondala
"scholar" and "hassan farhan" aren't two words that go together 🤣🤣🤣
@@SJ-yd6zi well, define what scholar mean to you then.
@@gondala
Heretic is a much better term 😉🤣
Ask him can he become a lawyer by purchasing a law book and reading it??
Creator does not create partners! Lol. You dont need to follow bullshit scholars to be a good muslim. Read the quran and see by yourself what Allah say about scholars.
وَسَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ - 36:10 It is the same whether you warn them or not-they will never believe.
إِنَّمَا تُنذِرُ مَنِ اتَّبَعَ الذِّكْرَ وَخَشِيَ الرَّحْمَٰنَ بِالْغَيْبِ ۖ فَبَشِّرْهُ بِمَغْفِرَةٍ وَأَجْرٍ كَرِيمٍ - 36:11 You can only warn one who follows the message and fears the Most Merciful unseen. So give him good tidings of forgiveness and noble reward.
When you have no facts easiest reply go learn Arabic
One thing I will say I do t agree with is that the Qur’an is the same as a translation.....a translation can give you an understanding of the basic concept of what it is to be a Muslim and the belief of tauhid....but in order to fully utilise the Qur’an, it must be recited in the Arabic language as the vibration frequency of those words are designed to have a certain effect....sound causes vibrations that resonate throughout our bodies which is 70% water and changes the molecular structured our body’s fluids which in turn raises the frequency of our vibrational field.....as the Qur’an has been proven to produce highly positive vibes that have an amazing effect in water....you can see why having it recited with the right sounds is important....the way it was divinely revealed is most powerful as that’s the original way Allah intended that book to be used.
Nigga! 😂 it was sent in Arabic for an Arabic speaking audience. That’s it. That’s a verbatim quranic verse.
Romantic jargon n what not grow up.
I can't grow beard. Am I going to hell?
So is growing a beard commanded by allah?
yes
Zu zoon No. In the quran Allah forbids us to make haram what he didnt make haram. He didnt make beard haram in the quran.
Zu zoon You leave it and whatever Allah has given you you keep!
Zu zoon
Afcurse not
A beart is summath
If you heav not
Yo will not go to hell
Bro.
So this is a war betwen Shia and Selefi? Right?
We are doing the same mistake as the christians did won’t take so long until everyone has his own interpretation of the religion.
Interesting debate, I hope the muslim speaker in the black shirt keeps coming back to Hyde Park
Some of them call us Kaffir but it certainly looks to me that they`re confused about who/what to believe which then makes them non believers in each others opinion
These people are just a minority( I don't know if minority, is the right word, because they are eve less than that). We, as muslims, clearly understand what we believe
@@SJ-yd6zi Quranism is the oldest form of Islamic belief.
Na a lot of people believe in hadiths and bad omen and all that
@@leertaste1265 Why you totaly lie ?
@@leertaste1265 If it was the oldest form of Islamic belief then enlighten us. U are not quranist You are unfortunately lost in ur own so called logic. Quran and sunnah is the oldest form of Islamic religion. so u have no clue. you don't do salah or believe in the 5 times prayers. Just pure arrogance and ignorance backed up by Shaitan
What does "tawafaa" means,who knows this??
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “None of you have faith until I am more beloved to him than his children, his father, and all of the people.
Look what the Quran itself said.
All hadith followers can quote is "follow the messenger"
May Allah (SWT) guide us all.
Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185
So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50
A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers.
Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3
These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6
Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37
This (Quran) is not a fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what came before it, a detailed account of all things, and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111
We brought the Book down to you providing explanations of all things. 16:89
Shall I seek other than God as a lawmaker when it is He who has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114
We did not leave anything out of the Book. 6:38
Do not utter lies that are portrayed by your tongues: "This is lawful, and that is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to God. Those who fabricate lies and attribute them to God will not succeed. 16:116
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of the message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99
Or do they have 'shuraka' (partners) who legislate for them of the religion what God did not authorise? If it were not for a decisive Word, judgement would have already been passed over them. Indeed, the transgressors shall have a painful punishment. 42:21
Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15).
Such was the Sunna of God for those who passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God. 33:62
You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God, and you will find that there is no diversion from the Sunna of God. 35:43
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message). 5:99
The same message is found in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48 and 64:12.
But if they turn away, We did not send you as a guardian over them. Your sole duty (O Muhammad) is the delivery. 42:48
Say, "Have you seen what God has brought down to you of provisions, of which you have made some unlawful and some lawful?" Say, "Did God give you permission, or are you fabricating lies about God?" 10:59
The Word of your Lord has been completed, in truth and justice. None can change His Words. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable. 6:115
I'm just trying to help you :(
How ignorant and misguided could a person be who says I won't accept hadeeth.. Do they want a book to be given to them directly from heavens without a prophet. Even companions did not understand quran directly without prophets guidance.. May Allah give them guidance or keep them away in a corner..
Creator does not create partners! The Hadith are not the prophets guidance. They are Bhukharis words.
Watch Quran centric and Sam gerrans to understand Quran alone.
Creator does not create partners! Thats the point. The prophet mission was to bring the quran. Not to make us do a reality show of his life.
@@ibrahim187 correct at this rate the prophet was married god knows how many times while he should be preaching islam and top of that they say that this was the culture and the prophet himself practiced it.
if u ask me there bunch of idiots and the last apostles biography's of hadith are confusing as there all different
Look what the Quran itself said.
All hadith followers can quote is "follow the messenger"
May Allah (SWT) guide us all.
Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185
So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50
A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers.
Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3
These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6
Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37
This (Quran) is not a fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what came before it, a detailed account of all things, and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111
We brought the Book down to you providing explanations of all things. 16:89
Shall I seek other than God as a lawmaker when it is He who has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114
We did not leave anything out of the Book. 6:38
Do not utter lies that are portrayed by your tongues: "This is lawful, and that is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to God. Those who fabricate lies and attribute them to God will not succeed. 16:116
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of the message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99
Or do they have 'shuraka' (partners) who legislate for them of the religion what God did not authorise? If it were not for a decisive Word, judgement would have already been passed over them. Indeed, the transgressors shall have a painful punishment. 42:21
Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15).
Such was the Sunna of God for those who passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God. 33:62
You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God, and you will find that there is no diversion from the Sunna of God. 35:43
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message). 5:99
The same message is found in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48 and 64:12.
But if they turn away, We did not send you as a guardian over them. Your sole duty (O Muhammad) is the delivery. 42:48
Say, "Have you seen what God has brought down to you of provisions, of which you have made some unlawful and some lawful?" Say, "Did God give you permission, or are you fabricating lies about God?" 10:59
The Word of your Lord has been completed, in truth and justice. None can change His Words. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable. 6:115
I'm just trying to help you :(
Where do these people come from? I mean seriously this is beyond stupid. Im actually shocked.
The world is a very big place. Believe it or not the vast majority arn't even Muslims...lol
we cant say that because the vast majority of muslims dont actually believe what this guy believes.
Yea but when it comes to beliefs numbers clearly don't mean anything.
Religions always start as one thing then break up in to sects.
Even Buddhism has different sects.
And in fact there are sects within sects. Like in Sunni Islam and Shia Islam there are other smaller sects.
thats true
its time for u to search the Qur'aan.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STYLE!
I want to hear the man was going to say at the end!
"" It does say in Quran ""
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Hadith is history quran is preserved
@Thora Adam
Allah said it in the Quran
@Thora Adam
Ye, bring me the original injeel. I will be in it.
@Thora Adam
I should have said bring me the original Bible , I will believe it.
Shakespeare is not God, therefore he can say anything but we don't have to believe it.
@Thora Adam
I have no problem teaching you the Quran. Only if you want to learn not to argue.
@Thora Adam
Torah and Bible and Bible doesn't mention it's preserved because those books don't exist anymore. Quran claim's it's the reminder and a confirmation of the previous book's and also Allah said.
Al-Buruj 85:22
فِى لَوْحٍ مَّحْفُوظٍۭ
[Inscribed] in a Preserved Slate.
This Quran is sufficient for everyone.
love the quranist
But Allah said 3 times for salat a day and hadith said 5 times a day.. which one is correct
5 times a day is correct
Quran doesn't say pray 3 times a day, read it again.
@@ricbla3499 nope it doesnt i didnt see any numbers in there so no, that is your incorrect interpretation.
5 times, the Quran say it.
Sorry I read the Quran front to back and didn't find any "Bukhari" in there.
And there were 77,000 words total. Lots of commands to follow. I think prayer only appeared 99 times.
Very true! brother/sister.
Bukhari was not the first person to write hadiths. Rather, he merely collected all the Sahih hadiths and put them together. Before Buhari, there was imam Malik, Imam ahmed and others who's books are widely used.
The problem with quranists is that they haven't studied the hadith sciences.
The muhaddiths don't just blindly follow bukhari, or any hadith compilers for this matter, rather they analyse the sanad. Like I said, learn about hadith science.
If sunni accept that hadith is from prophet muhammad and prophet muhammad already explained everything what was in al-quran then why.. not any single hadith explain what mean by :-
Alif laam miim..
Kaff haa yaa ainn saad..
Yaa siin ..and etc..
Does Allah not explained to prophet muhammad what does it mean??????.. if Allah do not explain .. then how can Allah said that our prophet accomplished his duty as massenger of Allah..
Where is the hadith.. or bukhori forgot to produce/manufactured the hadith??.. or cannot produce hadith because bukhori do not understand what does it mean????.. or bukhori scared to proposed hadith in explaining meaning for those words.. because he cannot even figure it..
BungaLalang I lost brain cells reading this.
If you read the sirah of the prophet then you will understand those verses. Lol
Brother Kamran, Subhaan Allah. May Allah swt reward you for your effort in standing up to these bearded, hadith propagators and helping propagate True Deen.
The title of this video ought to be True Muslim vs Hadithi.
Why? Because Allah swt only Sent down Al-Quran. All else is man-made hadith. Allah, in the Quran, states that The Quran is the Best Hadith. Also, In what hadith after this, will you believe(77:50).
The Quran further states, as brother Kamran rightly says, that the task of the Messenger was to only deliver the Message, he was not to explain it! This task, Quran states, lay with Allah swt.
Those who follow man-made hadith are just like the Christians who now follow the Gospels. They dont even question where is the Injeel of Prophet Jesus! They accept blindly the hadith of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John i.e Bukhari, etc etc. As for growing a beard being sunnah, even the enemies of the Prophet s.a .w had beards! Having a beard has nothing to do with Deen-e-Islam. It is a cultural thing. More so related to being in a hot desert, with limited water supplies and harsh sandstorms. It made sense to grow a beard. Thank goodness these hadith followers havent insisted yet, that women must grow a beard also!!!!
The verses in the Quran that say: Atti Allah, atti Rasool i.e Obey Allah and his Messenger is stating exactly that. Allah chooses His Words very carefully. Allah swt did not say "obey Muhammed," it says " obey the Messenger." There is a vast difference in the inference. If I send someone with a message to give someone else, the idea is that they will deliver my message and the recipient will act on the message. It would not be the case that the recipient then decides to follow and accept everything else that my messenger says!
Bukhari etc lived over 250yrs after Rasool-Allah. It is inconceivable that such hadith are on par with the Quran. Many are in fact very, very degrading to our Messenger s.a.w and to women.
What is so funny is that the man-made hadith even have hadith that say that the Prophet forbade the writing down of anything he said, except the Quran. I once had a discussion with a guy with a long beard who said that the reason for this was that people may get confused between the verses of the Quran and other man -made hadith!!!! How stupid.
I reminded him of the Challenge that Allah swt gives in the Quran.... Produce a surah like it, nay, produce 10 ayats or even one ayah!!!! He was still stubborn in his view.
It is Allah swt Who gives Hidayah. Those who think the sunnah is the hadith, have a seal around their hearts.
Those like brother Kamran have been granted Hidayah from OUR CREATOR, OUR MAKER.
Brother Kamran, please join thousands of others like yourself at " Ourbeacon.com."
Where you will find those Muslims who also hold the Quran as central to their core beliefs.
Hasbuna Khitab Allah.
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Hasbuna Khitab Allah
@Thora Adam
Hasbuna Khitab Allah.
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Only statements that you utter, had you followed the Quran, it would lead you to follow Rasulullah (May peace and blessings be upon him)
I could say so many things but I'll leave you with this czcams.com/video/8ppnVcLU080/video.html
May Allah guide you and me
@Thora Adam
May Allah bless you brother, let's not make it a debate. The video that I send will be enough in shaa Allah
Right at the beginning of the Quran it says THIS THE BOOK !
This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah!
And what do 90% of muslims do? Follow the hadith books.
Wrong. following the teachings of Prophet S.A.W and understanding Quran as Prophet S.A.W taught it, is in reality, following Quran.
the absolute truth is in the Quran, use hadith as reference proving is in harmony with the Quran, if not toss the hadith and stick with the Quran only.
If you reject the Sunnah then how do you know how to pray? How to make Wuthu? How to fast? How to give zakat? The Hadeeth, Sunnah and Qur'aan go hand in hand my friend. I pray Allah guides these confused people and brings them back to Islam and stop their ignorance.
P.s @ 5:00 the guy says did you hear the prophet say this? did you see the prophet do that? well by that definition, did YOU hear the Qur'aan being revealed to the prophet? How do you know the Qur'aan is the word or God if you didn't witness it? See... You can't use that logic.... because you weren't there.
Tara Bee, the Quran explains everything, you just need to study it without outside influence.
Watch Quran centric and Sam gerrans Quran channels to understand more.
The Quran is complex, there are things within it that we may not understand. This is where the hadeeth comes in as well as the Sunnah of the prophet. Besides, if you believe everything in the Qur'an then how can you reject the prophet and his teachings? He is mentioned in the Qur'an!
Tara Bee. I do not reject the prophet or his teachings. What you need to realise is that the Hadith are not the prophets words, they are Bhukhari’s.
Again I urge you to study the Quran alone before you follow mans word (Hadith) alongside Allahs word (Quran)
What is your understanding of Bukhari and Muslim? Do you not realise that it is a collation of the prophet's teachings? Via trustees who heard and witnessed and who's words were cross examined in order to obtain the saheeh hadith? I don't get why you are against these authenticated hadiths? You can't only read the Qur'an and know how to for example make Wuthu or how to pray. Maybe look into it? Either way, believe what you like. May Allah have mercy on all of us.
Quran 5'6 about wudu..and lots of verses for how to pray and when to pray... by the way pray like other Muslims pray.
ALLAH SAID IN THE QURAN...OBAY ME...AND MY MESSENGER.
MEANS OBAY THE QURAN AND THE TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET...THE SUNNA
SUNNAH IS OBAYING THE PROPHET.
WITH OUT HADITH...I DONT THINK THAT YOU CAN BE A MUSLIM...
HADITH WAS A QADER BY ALLAH SWT.
DESTANY.
ALLAHU AKBAR
Islammylife 4everAllahwilling Allah said this in the Quran? or did one man who wanted to have superiority and control write this himself in order to convince you that this is what Allah said? I know, I know, you are not allowed to question the Quran or your religion. this though is exactly how you are kept in line. never ask questions is a control tactic.
Look what the Quran itself said.
All hadith followers can quote is "follow the messenger"
May Allah (SWT) guide us all.
Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185
So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50
A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers.
Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3
These are God's revelations (Quran) that We recite to you with truth, so in which hadith other than God and His revelations (Quran) do they believe? 45:6
Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37
This (Quran) is not a fabricated hadith, but an authentication of what came before it, a detailed account of all things, and guidance and mercy for people who believe. 12:111
We brought the Book down to you providing explanations of all things. 16:89
Shall I seek other than God as a lawmaker when it is He who has brought down to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114
We did not leave anything out of the Book. 6:38
Do not utter lies that are portrayed by your tongues: "This is lawful, and that is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to God. Those who fabricate lies and attribute them to God will not succeed. 16:116
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of the message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99
Or do they have 'shuraka' (partners) who legislate for them of the religion what God did not authorise? If it were not for a decisive Word, judgement would have already been passed over them. Indeed, the transgressors shall have a painful punishment. 42:21
Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner." 46:9 (also in 10:15).
Such was the Sunna of God for those who passed on before. You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God. 33:62
You will find that there is no substitute for the Sunna of God, and you will find that there is no diversion from the Sunna of God. 35:43
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message). 5:99
The same message is found in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48 and 64:12.
But if they turn away, We did not send you as a guardian over them. Your sole duty (O Muhammad) is the delivery. 42:48
Say, "Have you seen what God has brought down to you of provisions, of which you have made some unlawful and some lawful?" Say, "Did God give you permission, or are you fabricating lies about God?" 10:59
The Word of your Lord has been completed, in truth and justice. None can change His Words. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable. 6:115
I'm just trying to help you :(
He asked about the Hajj.. he should’ve explained what the evil black stone is 😢
Lol the beardy is like a robot; leave it to others to do his thinking for him.
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No, you go with statements you believe to be narrated by the sahabah. That's quite a significant difference.
Walter Khayyam It would be clear they heard it because another Companion would confirm it too..It would not contradict the Quran.....He is asking Why Muhammad Pbuh.!!
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There are thousands and thousands of Hadeeth, hundreds of collections of Hadeeth, as well as varying interpretations of each Hadeeth. Even if you could choose the correct ones and correctly interpret them without any chance of error, you would still be relying on 'faith' regarding the veracity of those Hadeeth in the first place.
The Quran talks in allegory and metaphor, it is not difficult to find justification for almost any act using it's Ayahs. All that is needed is some linguistic skill and an ability with rhetoric.
Walter Khayyam No...Not faith..Because thry are chain narrations...Something Christians do not have...Thry regard all the 4 Gosple's to be divinely inspired when they are Hadeeth's that have been acceoted to be autgentic when their is no Chain Narration..
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Can you explain logically how a 'chain of narration' ensures the authenticity of Hadeeth?
This man is ignorant. Wallahi he is sign of Day of Judgement being close. He attempts to discredit the Hadith? Allahu A'alam.
Muhammad Ahmed ....you and you sunni wahabi salafi buddys are the reason Allah will end it all....chutia...
Bashir Ahmad
May Allah forgive you akhi, inshallah you are guided by Allah.
jésus warned us in the bible: if an angel comes after me with an other evangile, that he be curse, that he be curse. jésus said i am the last prophet, nobody comes to the father but by me. very clear, jésus warned about futur false prophet, he clearly said i am the last prophet, the last one. the "Ahmad" that muslim talks is a fraud, there is no "Ahmad" in the bible, this word doent even exist, read the bible you will see it by yourself, the throne of the antichrist in the bible is clearly written: PERGAME, which is turkey. and the kingdoms of the antichrist which will follow it are clearly written too: assyria (zone between syria and irak today), persia (iran today), koush (north sudan today), and libya and egypt. and they will try to destroy israel, a false jésus wil appear and will make miracles to deceive the world which will follow the beast (the false jésus), jésus warned us he was the last prophet, clealy, read the bible instead of theorising, the coran even denies the very most important thing from the bible, the fact jésus were crusified, read the bible you will see yourself.
DiscoverALLAH7777777 ...islam is not you fathers property ...i will practice it as i see fit and its between me and Allah...fuck off you jahil extremists in religion...
Muhammad Ahmed why did our prophet prohibited the recording of the stories? And why did Abu Bakr burnt all his narrations?
Its not his interpretation about seeing hearing and using mind.. its objective..
Is he better than buhary - may be.. Allah knows..
Oh wow I never thought of that!
It's so true Muslims have their own Trinity they believe they're all in 1 too.
The Qur'an is easy to understand and Allah is the best of guidance. They have taken men for their Lord.
Proof?
There is no such thing as a Quranist. Those who claim to be are deviants.
umar younis we will see on judgement day what God think of your fabricated hadiths
satriani lol just look at his face it looks like you described him perfectly.
these people act so arrogant like just exposes them Follow the Qur'an all you need dont make ur life difficult
If anyone claims that he is following what is in the Qur’an, but at the same time he is not following the Sunnah, then he is contradicting himself, because the Qur’an enjoins us to follow the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and not to go against him.
No one can worship Allah, may He be exalted, as Allah want except by following the Sunnah. If someone claims that he is following the Qur’an only - if that is possible - then how does he pray, fast, give zakaah on his wealth and perform Hajj and ‘umrah?
The details of the rulings on these acts of worship are not mentioned in the Holy Qur’an; rather they are narrated in the prophetic Sunnah.
Abdul Rahman
Following the Quran is following and obeying the sunna, the sunna of Allah and that never is changing its the same message Allah has sent with all his messengers(pbut).
The Quran is complete.
39:18
Who listen to speech and follow the best of it. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding.
’We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). (Al-Hijr -Stone land-:9)
If the Hadiths were guarded as Allah promised to guard the Quran then there would not be one fabricated Hadith. It was done on purpose to test people who they follow.
6:1
All praises and thanks be to Allah, Who (Alone) created the heavens and the earth, and originated the darkness and the light, yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord.
We place veils over their hearts to prevent them from understanding it (Quran)and deafness in their ears, and when you commemorate your Lord in the Quran alone they turn their backs and run away in aversion. 17:46
3:78. And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture
with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah ," but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know.
6:144 Or were you witnesses when Allah charged you with this? Then who is more unjust than one who invents a lie about Allah to mislead the people by [something] other than knowledge? Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."
And the Messenger cried out: O my Lord! surely my people have treated this Quran as a forsaken thing.
Ponder this verse please, who is the messenger talking about, what are the reasons the Quran is a forsaken thing.
I'm a Muslim
I like "quranist"
Bashir Ahmad Fuessing you are an Ahmedi or people if desires..
Naz A cause if you disbelieve the hadiths entirely then you've just disregarded a numerous ayat in the quran which emphasised to follow and obey the messanger of Allah
Ali Ahmed obeying and following the messenger is not the same as following and obeying Bhukhari (Hadith). It’s the same argument every time from Hadith followers. You follow the messenger by following the message which is the Quran. Peace.
Naz A Bukhari is not giving his own authority his is just merely documenting the sayings and the actions of the prophet
Naz A the prophet was not just a messenger in the sense of a postman who just delivered the quran he was the prime example of how to embody the teachings of the quran and live accordingly to it for references check surah alqalam ayah 4 and surah al imran ayah 31 and could go on and site many more aayat
How could Bukhari investigate 600 000 hadeeths in 16 years
600000/16 years= 37500
37500 / 12 month = 3125
3125/ 30 days = 104 hadeeths every day
and this if he never sleep and never eat and travel with horse between countries and tribes
Comon guys its so funny
45:6) These are Allah's verses that We narrate to you in Truth. In what kind of discourse after Allah and His verses will they, then, believe?8
answer the question
The Qur’an is a book revealed by God that does not resemble hadiths at all.
Nobody can come up with the Qur’an, as for hadiths, they can
Wasn't it sufficient for them? We sent down the book to you, and it would be recited to them?
Answer this question also if you can
14:1 “Alif, Lam, Ra. [This is] the Book which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], that you might bring mankind out of darknesses into the light by permission of their Lord - to the path of the Exalted in Might, the Praiseworthy “- Ponder and reflect on the verse ... the verse is clear and crystal clear ... and it means that the exit of people from darkness to light and then to the straight path is exclusively by the book. ... and people leaving the darkness to the light and then to the straight path is the highest goal, so if the servant attains that, what is our need for the prophetic Sunnah?
Fear God and may God teach you
Is piety scientific testimony or inside the heart?
Answer if you can
And if he was surprised, then he was surprised by their saying
I do not attack you, but I bemoan you association the Sunnah with the Book and I invite you to the religion of Abraham, to be honest, and he was not among the polytheists
If I tell you that prayer, zakat and all acts of worship are present in the Qur’an, then what is our need for the Sunnah?! .....
Do not be from those whom God said:
(42:21) “Do they have any associates (of Allah) who have laid down for them a way pertaining to faith which Allah did not sanction?”
Do not associate with God unless God has revealed authority,
And do not answer me with a demonic answer, such as those who say: Obey God and obey the Messenger, evidence of the existence of the Prophet’s Sunnah. This is a vague answer and the Qur’an is clear and not vague. Sincerely review yourself, you will find the right path with the help of ALLAH
"تلك آيات الله نتلوها عليك بالحق فبأي حديث بعد الله و ءاياته يؤمنون "؟
جاوب على السؤال
القرآن كتاب منزل من الله لا يشبه الأحاديث بتاتاً ،..
القرآن لا يستطيع ان يأتي أحد بمثله اما الأحاديث فيستطيعون
"أولم يكفهم أنا أنزلنا عليك الكتاب يتلى عليهم "؟
جاوب على هذا السؤال أيضاً ان استطعت
(الر كتاب أنزلناه اليك لتخرج الناس من الظلمات الى النور بإذن ربهم الى صراط العزيز الحميد) تدبر و تمعن في الآية... الآية واضحة وضوح الشمس... وتعني أن خروج الناس من الظلمات الى النور و ثم الى الصراط المستقيم يكون بالكتاب حصراً لاغير... وخروج الناس من الظلمات الى النور ثم الى الصراط المستقيم هو أسمى الغايات فلو نال العبد ذلك فما حاجتنا بالسنة النبوية ؟
اتقوا الله و يعلمكم الله
هل التقوى بالشهادة العلمية ام بالقلب ؟
جاوب إن استطعت
وإن تعجب فعجب قولهم
أنا لا أهاجمك و لكني أتحسر على اشراكك بالسنة و أدعوك الى ملة ابراهيم حنيفاً وما كان من المشركين
إذا قلت لك ان الصلاة و الزكاة و جميع العبادات موجودة بالقرآن فما حاجتنا الى السنة؟!.....
فلا تكون من الذين قال الله عنهم :
" أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاءُ شَرَعُوا لَهُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ ۚ وَلَوْلَا كَلِمَةُ الْفَصْلِ لَقُضِيَ بَيْنَهُمْ ۗ وَإِنَّ الظَّالِمِينَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ "
لا تشرك مع الله ما لم ينزل الله به من سلطان،
و لا ترد علي بجواب شيطاني كاللذين يقولون وأطيعوا الله و أطيعوا الرسول دليل على وجود السنة النبوية فهذا جواب هلامي و القرآن واضح و ليس هلامي فقد أمرنا الله ان نؤمن به و بملائكته و رسله و كتبه .... لا وجود الى السنة النبوية في الإيمان فراجع نفسك باخلاص ستجد الحق باذن الله
before any one gets on the high horse on so called bukahri
i would like to say
Quran is the author of salah prayer book (which is His kingship )
What do you even mean?
@Thora Adam go refer to surah Al baqarah verse 189...the answer is there
Ask that guy who rejects Hadiths, how many times a day he is praying, or if he celebrates the two Eids
A Book that has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it, it is a Reminder for the believers. You shall all follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3
Once again, we read in verses 7:2-3 clear instructions to follow the Quran and nothing else.
Among the people, there is one who trades in baseless hadith to mislead others from the path of God without knowledge and he does it as a mockery. For these is a humiliating punishment. 31:6
And when Our revelations are recited to him, he turns away in arrogance as if he never heard them and as if there is deafness in his ears. Give him news of a painful punishment. 31:7
The words in 31:6-7 warn against following baseless hadith.
Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37
In 68:37 God is mocking those who have other books than the Quran which they follow.
So in which hadith besides it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50
In 77:50 we see yet another clear mockery aimed at all who follow other than the Quran.
Masha Allah, Muslim vs Sectarian
lets dua and pray for unity of muslims.
May God forbid and prevent this beautiful religion from becoming like Christianity whom instead of trying to follow the bible had been altered to fit into the western culture.
Hopefully God grant each of us Hidayah and prevent people from trying to invent and create to fit into Arabic culture /norm or any individual culture.
What do you mean?
Hadith literature and any past literature is important for linguistic purposes so we can understand the contexts and meanings derived from those words so we can understand the Quran and Arabic but the context isn't that important because we firstly have to take from Quran and when you arrive at a conclusion of what you understand from Quran then you can see the sense of looking at Hadith to see if your conclusions are mentioned anywhere in them
But most Muslims use Hadith and opinions of scholars before contemplating on Quran first, scholars are only meant to give you the tools to extract the meanings of the Quran for yourselves not impose an understanding of what a person of the grave thought that you never met
I.e Hadith talks about shaving the moustache is Sunnah because the messenger said it, but if you analyse the words used for it means wipe the moustache not shave , how? Because Allah uses the same word in Quran and it's implying wipe not shave
So many Hadith have been misunderstood and its very well know Hadith writers were Jews because like today you pay people to record information, to those of a certain education and ability, so many wrote Hadith and inserted what I call taking the p** , and they're still laughing now at how gullible Muslims are
Ok wipe the moustache could only mean , be presentable and not scruffy, today we use the term took your shirt in, etc
So if you got milk on your moustache, or looks scruffy etc is all hinting at be presentable and have self respect
You use how Allah has used his language to interpret the Quran not the other way around
You are right about Buchari being Jevish.
They couldnt insert anything in the Quran as God protected it. So they came up with new innovations/writings years later. Thats exactly how christianity has been formed.
It didnt work right away but took generations for true islam to fade away and drowning in multiplying lies attributed to it.
And yes, they (disbelieving-people of Israil) are mastering manipulation through media. Whether it be in writing, oral and in todays world visual and psychological msnipulation.
They created answers for almost everything. They created ways of praying, wudu, they even moved true Kaaba to new location after civil war broke out. It was closer to Jerusalem (City of Peace- Ibrahim asked God to make it city of peace) I have been researching and investigating this for few years now.
Maybe about this topic another time.
God willing, truth will preveil.
Hadith creationist have totally twisted information and made it harder for people to accept true path.
Peace.
we need a inquisition aginst these people l
People like the bearded guy are following man made books of people who have made a book of their opinions and the quranist guy kamran you will find one in a million you follow Quran alone and speak the truth , may Allah bless kamran
Recognising The Quran As The Word Of Allah Is MashAllah Guidance From Allah. Sincere Shahada Is What Makes You Muslim. Rasulullah, Nabi Muhammad SAW, Was The Final Prophet [Should Be Followed I.e. Sunnah] and Delivered The Quran [Should Be Followed I.e The Word Of Allah] Via Angel Jibreel MashAllah. I Think The Kamran Brother Should Reflect On What The Difference Between A Prophet Of Allah, and A Messenger Of Allah Is.
May Allah Have Mercy On Me For My Mistakes.
it is not about bukhari, it is about following prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) way of worship and every sort of commandment from Allah which is in the quran.
It states in the quran
An-Nisa' 4:13
تِلْكَ حُدُودُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَمَن يُطِعِ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ يُدْخِلْهُ جَنَّٰتٍ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَٰرُ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَاۚ وَذَٰلِكَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ
These are the limits [set by] Allah, and whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger will be admitted by Him to gardens [in Paradise] under which rivers flow, abiding eternally therein; and that is the great attainment.
The prophet Muhammads (pbuh) his companions and all the believers before bukhari compiled the prophets pbuh hadiths, people didnt need books to know the hadiths, they had great memory and understood the importance of the prophets pbuh actions and everything about him.
Ofcourse we follow the quran however we also follow saheeh and hasan hadiths.
May Allah guide us all
So when I was Christian the argument would be evangelists, protestant, catholic. Now it seems the only matter that keep us divided as human beings and arguing among each other it has to do with taking a shower and what parts of the body we do first and after. Before any of this, I want find God. This is so completely unnecessary. A brother walks into a mosque from jail after learning the Quran (true story) brothers in mosque be like "perfect wudu" etc... etc... I had to explain everything. Felt so pity for the guy the show no compassion. I heard he traced down his old steps. Perhaps I should off kept him closer we could have a friend and not those who feel a commitment to enter a place with a right foot exit with a left foot and judge their brothers.
It amuses me to watch Muslims argue over what is supposed to be a clear, detailed and fully explained book, especially when you know that the one banging on about the Sunnah will reject as "fabricated" any "sahih" hadith that does not support whatever argument he is making and will accept any weak hadith that does.
Nice claim.
Now support it with proof.
He just said “you’re trying to arabize it”
Akhi it was sent down arabic. And let me tell from my limited arabic it is a complicated language not even close to English you really need to understand the quran in Arabic.
@Rational Monotheist like?