Owning a Maserati - Expectation vs Reality
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2022
- In my life I've always known Maserati existed, that they made some seriously cool cars, but also that they weren't cars many people were really brave enough to own. They drink like fish, depreciate like crazy and break all the time.
Having now owned one, I figured it would be a good time to look back on my ownership experience and ask how the car met the "expectations" of exotic Italian cars.
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I want one for that engine note alone.
I don't blame you, its possibly the finest sounding of all road cars..
I have a 13' Granturismo Sport. It's worth it just for that sound.
Bought a QP5 GTS recently... Drove it up my favourite hill forgetting to turn sport mode on... Sound that comes from the exhaust is phenomenal even on sedate mode. Bargain buy and the appreciation from bystanders is awesome (no one is envious n despises you, they just love the looks n sound).
@Peter Lattimore my wife wanted a QP GTS real bad but changed her mind after driving our Granturismo, now she wants her own Granturismo. We still love both models!
@@600zxr wonderful sound in those as well and they look gorgeous
This engine produces one of the best sounds ever known to mankind
So LFA doesn't count?
@@ApKieras he said one of the best, not the best, his comment didn't insult the LFA
@@ApKieras I think it sounds better than the LFA. Much more melodic, the LFA is too waily, sounds like an F1 car which I guess some people love and it does sound great on a trackday but having an engine screaming in a high pitch when you're popping to the shops or cruising on the motorway would really get on my nerves after a while.
This however I'd be revving up while stopped at a red light just to hear it sing.
@@BigUriel As V10s go, the Carrera GT has no peers.
@@jamesrobert4106 Like the LFA, It suits the car. In a Maserati Quattroporte (or a Porsche Panamera for example) it would be completely out of place. Like Jay pointed out, lap times are pointless in a car like this, and so is making them sound like race cars.
There is a reason why Maserati ditched the flat plane crank when they borrowed this engine from Ferrari.
I bought a 2007 Auto 4.2 in 2011 for £28k with 40k on the clock. I’ve still got it now at 90k and loved every minute. Servicing is reasonable, cheap even with an excellent local dependent. And contrary to some other comments here I’ve had NO corrosion, other than a small amount of bubbling just at the underside of the door mirrors. The auto box is super reliable as is the engine. Spare parts ARE expensive - front discs and pads will cost you £1500. And on a 1000 round trip to and from Goodwood - Edinburgh I averaged just under 30mpg. If you’re tempted pile in. Great car.
While in Goodwood, you could have bet the races, and possibly paid for your front discs and pads.
24:36 I love this dramatic sound of the engine just before it is reved up. All in all it just sounds much better than the Ferrari versions.
Cross plane crank as apposed to a Ferrari flat plane crank.
I’ve had my Grantursmo for nearly 2 years, looks and sounds fantastic. No regrets and have had no issues.
Love every journey in it .
Is it true that you must bring your Maserati into the dealer only fir service/repairs? Can you buy parts and accessories online or only from dealer?
Parts can be purchased from Scudaria UK, Amazon and EBay, not every mechanic will look after a Maserati but lots will.
@@ChrisNF what do you know about the reliability of he 2013 quattroporte and the 2014 quattroporte? I’m considering buying in the Fall but I read some reviews about the 2014 model causing headaches
There’d something inherently gangsta/familia about those antiquated rear lights
Paired with the shirt 😁
Looks like a pimped up Rover 75.
Hi JayEmm, loving your content! I bought a QP new in 2008. It was the 4.2l with a ZF box. I loved it for 10 years until the bills got too much , then for 3 years I started to get angry at the thing.The last 3 years cost me £15,000 in servicing and fixing faults. One fault was the alarm that turned itself on automatically after 30 seconds but didn't actually lock the doors. Foskers , then McGrath Maserati both failed to find the fault. I wish I had known about Sports Italia as both Foskers and McGrath had my eyes out for any work they did. I did roughly 42,000 miles in my 13 years. I took it to Le Mans and even to the Nurburgring (a very pleasing 9 minutes 10 secs lap, I did used to race a 1963 Ford Galaxie so the Maser handled like a dream compared to that) Michelin tyres are far superior to the Pirelli's in my opinion, I wish I had changed brands a lot earlier. The heated seats I had in the front were superb. The demisting as you say is a joke. My battery would go dead after only 2/3 days which was very frustrating until I bought a trickle charger for it. Keep up the good work.
Sounds like a rubber grommet was missing and not activating the alarm ?. Had it happen to me.. bonnet switch wasn't closing the circuit.
@@peterlattimore6013 The so called experts spent hours trying to find a solution including obviously changing the unit.
@@markplumtree1605 bought a car for a bargain many years ago... the battery would be flat in 4-5 days, and all it was, was the bonnet/hood rubber grommet missing. There was a transmission leak from the solid pressure end pipe to a brittle rubber section also, but long story short, I grab bargains like this yearly... best problems I've solved are old transmission oil when viscosity lowers and the cars go into limp mode... The QP5 I bought was a Singapore import, and no one wanted it, for fear of dreaded gremlins... apart from sticky buttons, it's a brilliant example with 34,000ks on the clock.
@@peterlattimore6013 I wouldn’t call it a bargain as I bought it brand new. To have so much rust underneath at the front and very leaky rear wheel arches at the back was very disappointing. As I said I loved it for ten years before the faults and bills mounted up. I drove it around town mostly so only averaged about 15mpg and that was driving it gently. It was once picked up by a driver from Joe Macari and he managed to race it back to their factory and achieve 7mpg. U.K. car tax is also nearly £600.00 which isn’t ideal. One of the other reasons I sold it was because of all the speed humps in my area, very tedious!
@@markplumtree1605 that's not bad tax compared to its native Italy. Any car above 250bhp pays a "Supertax" on top of normal tax for every KW above that power. For a new QP the total tax would be about 3500 Euros a year.
The Supertax is gradually reduced as the car reaches 5, 10, 20 years old etc, but it's still managed to basically destroy the performance car market in Italy.
Whoever came up with it should be bayoneted.
I owned a Sport GT S that I recently sold. There were indeed a lot of Italian quirks and little issues here and there but overall I absolutely loved it. The sound, the sound, the sound.
don't sell it then, you will regret it
Had a 2011 QPS 4,7. No issues at all. Great car, great value, no hassle. A bit too small luggage compartment, but all in all, great.
Right on man I have the 09 s 4.7, beautiful amazing cars, I've had mine for 4 years with no out of the ordinary issues
Cross plane crank, rather than the flat plane crank, which then causes the exhaust note to sound different. The cross plane giving the more American V8 style sound.
Wonderful review as always !! Delighted to hear it has been so reliable ,long may it last !!. Myself, being Italian and therefore ,somewhat biased , I still believe that this could be the most charismatic , best looking and sounding , 4 door sedan of that era . Having retired from the rugby fraternity and , ahem ... , become a "larger" chap , I am glad that it has those seats , with little bolstering :) . Looking forward to more reviews from you , Grazie !!
This thing just looks astonishing. Especially that curve from rear side window to the trunk lid. Never seen one of these and even heard, which is far more important
Jay, I'm digging these cars again. Thank you for your honest appraisal.
Great review and I love these ownership reviews. To sum it up, I would have one too.
Thanks for your opinion
I want a Quatroporte and this review is very supportive and very informative carry on
Years ago, I owned a Mas..Most expensive, but also most *fun* /satisfying auto I've ever driven. Period. :)
Second that. I’ve never spent so much on a car parts before.
Interesting and honest review. I had the loan of one and found it to be a total ball of confusion.
Appalling auto box but sublime engine. Beautiful looking interior - yet compromised and uncomfortable. Elegant bodywork - yet Corrosion abounds. I was still sad when returning it having been entranced and captivated by the sound of that engine.
Glad I didn't own it but so pleased to have experienced it
Awesome car. I always wanted a Quatroporte as a youth. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
This is a great car and it is a big pleasure to drive! I own one of these unpopular Duo-Select versions, but I love it anyhow. With the right attitude these cars will provide a lot of joy! And the design and the interior is just beautiful and stylish. I just love it!
Brilliant video as always James, you just keep getting better and better. P.s this exhaust note is simply like an orchestra. 👌🏼 Vint-tro
The moment after 20:38 and the downshift and the sound! I am really jealous of you. That car is a feast for the senses :)
Great video - fantastic to hear such a positive review of a Mazzer!
The expression at the beginning. No words say a thousand words. Just brilliant intro.
The thing that always sticks in my mind about Maserati is when I worked in a Shell station and one of our very regular customers had a 3200, which looked rather lovely.
He CONSTANTLY came in and complained about it a bit broken in a wide range of different ways whenever I asked about it.
Replaced it with a 4200 though, so must have got under his skin somewhat, and he loved that one.
Well that deserves a like and I’m only 30 seconds in. What an exhaust note!
Beautiful. I am glad you enjoy your Maserati, Jay.
Great review Jay. I have the 2009 GTS and I absolutely love it. It is weird how these cars seem to have got this love hate relationship, but you explain that beautifully. The only issue I have had with mine, is that sometimes the steering just seems to disappear for probably 3 seconds, like switching the lights off and back on, just longf enough for you to notice but, thankfully, not long enough to cause a problem. First time on your channel, well impressed and look forward to seeing more.
Thankyou, welcome!
I do like your critical analysis and perspective thanks.
Sounds so good I can hear it over James’ shirt.
Love the shirt, love the choice of car, love the down to earth opinion, … this is by far one of my favorite channels
I was looking forward to this! Thanks for sharing your ownership with us. My opinion of Maserati? Mainly through rose tinted glasses at the early cars, the A6G, the Mistral and the Ghibli coupe of the early 70s amongst others. It good to see that recent Masers can match up with its decendants.
I am an apprentice mechanic working on these cars everyday and love working on them. Especially a fan of the 4.2 Quattroporte and Gran Turismo S
You have immense job security as a Maserati mechanic. Nice to be working on decent stuff instead of mk7 Fiestas
@@lukemallory7832 I’ve got a 2006 QP with the F1 and it’s awesome. If your handy with the tools you can save a small fortune. Clutch is pricey but drive it manual and sport mode and you’ll be good. 76K miles on mine with original clutch.
@@peteydynamite8794 agreed.
Nice one. I bet that’s great.
@@AdrianLeggettUK I found a 2005 QP with the f1 clutch for like 10k euros with less than 100.000 miles. The guy said he changed the clutch last year. You think its a good deal? Should i get it? My biggest fear was the clutch
What a superb noise!! Always loved these
perfect, thanks for review.
After so many years still nothing can surpass the sound of the engine in that price range. In a Drive Tribe interview with Jeremy Clarkson passes Maserati while JK sits in a coffee bar. His reaction is priclees.
I'm also sick of the more power, more than 180mph, lower and lower 0-60 dashes. It's almost an irrelevance. You're right, feel is much more important. 👍🏻👏🏻
Phenomenal video and reviewer!
Great video Jay. Great to see your real world use instead of just the 30 minute drive and judgement. I had a sport gt for about 2 years and loved it. Sold it with 70k miles and had no issues. Since then I had 2 ghiblis and now have a qp6 S and a levante S for my wife. Love them both. The qp6 is not quite as special as the qp5 but for daily use I can't think of anything better. Same with the levante, went from a porsche macan s and never looked back. The itialian cars have way more charm and personality!!
Cracking video. Really enjoyed this one.
My dad still drives his 2010 Quattroporte GTS to this day. Epic sound and beautiful interior.
A very fair and accurate review - the seats offer no support whatsoever, and I suspect you didn't have the TPMS option checked which is a good thing... they're a nuisance. But all those things rapidly melt away when you hear that soundtrack in sport mode... it's magnificent and the harder you push it, the better it sounds. BTW - Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is the best rubber for these, widely accepted that P-Zeros on this car don't perform well in the UK.
As a Ghibli driver I can say you’re spot on on the tyres
Love the new intro!
I watched for the car however you have a talent for presenting and reviewing and i will look forward to your next venture.
Good video mate.
Great review 👍
Wonderful video!
Liking the new intro Jay
Thanks for making this informative and interesting Maserati video
Life is a better place with cars like this ! Fabulous.
What an awesome, genuine and authentic review. Your car is stunning, I don't know what I like more the facelift of your generation or the 2014 version, my significant other has a 2014 GTS and it is badass, I look forward to the cold start every morning, which I'm sure my neighbor's despise LMAO
No issues so far just some minor suspension work, but the dealer did mess up the windshield seal when replacing one and water leaked into the interior through the dash messed up the electronic shifter plus who knows what else.....Currently at Dealer ugh
That New intro, gets a thumbs up 👍 form me.
Keep up the great work James!
I would very much like to know the name of the intro song, please.
For me it's the noise. It sounds special even when it's around a corner.
Also: best shirt ever!
Useful video!
Awesome sound for sure...great vid
NEW INTRO IS FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This is a great review. Im planning on getting a gran turismo toward the end of the year. Thanks
Awesome sound capture vs inadequate sound for your Lexus GSF review. These QP sound good as they pass by. If I let go of my GSF, yes, I’d be looking at QP where existing Mas mechanic knew car and approved as daily for enthusiast.
I bought a 2018 Ghibli S Q4 and absolutely love it. Have had no issues at all but i also have a bumper to bumper warranty so the "break downs" don't really matter to me.
I do like your new sponsors will look into them.
Jay man I discovered your channel about 2 years ago and I just have to say its very easily earned its place in my must watch list. Every upload I am there now lol. Excellent quality content. I'm 33 and so I'm probably of the same age group so sometimes you say about the gran turismo days of the old playstations etc. I can relate. Only thing is I don't drive! I've been obsessed with cars from an early age and love racing games and go karting but now finally this year I shall learn to drive. Verrry much looking forward to it! :D
I hope it turns out to be everything you wanted!
@@JayEmmOnCars the legend himself has graced me with a comment! I'm sure it will my friend! Much love from Belfast dude.
@@bassface8580 bless you my child
@@JayEmmOnCars hahaha
They are 6’4” wide which gives you 1” either side on a London width restriction, the one on Hammersmith bridge I loved to take at an illegal speed and never hit the mirrors, had mine for 8 years and love it, and the button thing I got over after a month, the noise and punch I still have yet to
Hi @JayEmm, thanks for these videos, I've been enjoying your wide range of performance/classic car coverage.
I would love to see a video covering the Maserati Ghibli, especially the Diesel. Although I wouldn't necessarily go for the Diesel in a perfect world, the pricing of these versions at the moment are very interesting as an alternative, seemingly economical family car.
LOL! 0:20 Just because of that...Im subscribed now! no one ever should speak when that glorious engine is roaring!
Great review. I have 2006 QP with Duoselect. A fantastic car. Sounds awesome. I’ve never spent so many £’s on a motor in maintenance.
1. I want one. 2. Sounds fabulous. 3. Great review.
Drove a Biturbo Spyder for 8 years as a daily driver. First 2 years were spent improving reliability and undoing the previous owner's cheap fixes. We found parts from 7 different brands (Alfa, FIAT, Volvo, Ford, etc.). Despite the Biturbo reputation the last 6 years it was dead reliable and didn't let me down once. If I bought one again (and I might), I'd be sure to sort out the critical bits right away. A well modified Biturbo is great fun to drive.
What a great car! Timeless beauty and character.
What a glorious way to start a video.
No need to speak, just play that funky sound mr Martin
Great balanced review
I am driving my 4th Maser right now. I've had 03' Spyder, '05 QP Executive, '18 Ghibli SQ4 and now '21 Ghibli S GranSport. I have never had problems with my cars... Yes. Depreciation is stiff but the joy you have with Maser can be definitely worth it.
Which is your favourite?
@@AdrianLeggettUK I loved the spyder. By back then, both QP and Spyders shared the same engine. F-1 Clutch was the huge issue as it got hot easily and would slip and replacement was pretty expensive. F-1 pump as well... I modified my QP with straight pipes and sounded the best. After current car, I am thinking about going back to QP. Ghiblis will not be produced anymore as Gracale will replace them. The only sedan Maser will have is QP. I am keeping my eyes on Trofeo...
@@briany1957 nice. I love my QP but spending a lot on it. I too replaced the F1 pump. Not nice when it goes as you are literally stranded. Due a clutch soon but it has done well.
Just bought a 2013 Granturismo Sport. Already booked in at Sports Italia and cannot wait to get it on the B roads this summer. I’ll drop you an email nearer the time to see if you’re interested in taking it out
That’s a great car
I love this shape of Quattroporte I think now just right time to buy as prices will go up ⬆️
I remember being at Spa in 2004 outside the hotel / restaurant (sorry - don’t recall the name) on the long road before Francorchamps race track. We’d heard that Schumi was coming for the traditional pre race dinner with the Ferrari mechanics so me, a friend and some German fans were waiting. For 5 minutes we could hear this wailing engine snaking through the hills and trees, high pitched and getting the treatment from its driver. Then, in a silver quattroporte, rocks up this demure, rather short chap, no fat whatsoever and happy to shake hands with us all and do signatures. Charming and friendly to a fault! On Sunday he didn’t win the race - Kimi did that, but he did win his last world championship. Great guy, a great memory and a great car!
I love that new intro
Thank you for your indepth personal review of ownership, audio, video, explanation, editing & content.
Currently shopping for a 5th generation with ZF transmission, low miles & well kept. Consumers just don't understand a high performance vehicle, it needs to be revved & driven hard after the engine, transmission, differential, tires & brakes are warmed up. Consumers are quick to complain about price & availability of parts & service. Parts are expensive to inventory ( capital, time, real estate ) storing parts is diminishing returns on investment. Good quality expert service cost money.
It really is one of my all time favourite cars, i hope it keeps serving you well and you keep enjoying it for a long time because what else is there from that brand thats better?
Pitty about the seats since these are trimmed in alcantara so they are the grippiest setup they made, my only suggestion would be for you to start wearing corderoy pants and jackets to increase the friction coefficient, but that would compromise your trademark look and we don't want that...
With zero plans to do so, I bought one of these yesterday...and I blame you. So one popped up for sale 2 miles from me with 33K miles. Bought it on the spot. I think it's a great stablemate for my 458. Thanks for the great vids Jay!
THAT INTRO WITH THE MASERATI THE SOUND YOUR SHIRT AND YOUR HAIRCUT WAS THE TAKIEST THING I’VE EVER SEEN BUT I LOVED IT 😂😂😂
Would have loved to have seen that jag on the channel, one of the very few that I’m tempted by.
Its elegance makes it timeless
You are right about the numbers in the U.K., it’s about 107 4.7s and 46 2008 4.2s
Jay, I just want to say that you own my dream car. I knew the ZF Quattroporte was a hidden gem for about 8 years now. A better looking Gran Turismo with 4 doors. The soul this car has is a thing the E63 and M5 owners will never get to experience. I had a chance to drive in an Awards edition of this car last month! I'm more in love with it than ever. I'm really happy you enjoy the car
The Gran Turismo looks far better are u mad ?
Thankyou! It is a gorgeous car
@@bighes100 agreed the gran turismo looks better but this car is very nice too
@@bighes100 I guess I'm in the minority here.
Can't really compare this to an M5 or E63 because they'd walk it in every aspect. Even reliability.
The heated seats were an option because they eliminated the stitching in the seat centres. I would always go online and spec a yellow one with black wheels and yellow calipers and the all black cabin with yellow stitching (and the all-important MC line extended carbon fibre) and if I ticked the heated/ventilated seats box, the yellow stitching in the seat centres would vanish, so I unticked it every time.
Sadly nobody seems to have actually specced a real one in these colours for me to buy used now.
I got my Masaerati almost a year ago and honstly I cant stop smiling everytime I get in to drive. It is spectacular!!! Had no reliable issues yet and surprisingly its not more expensive maintanence than my previous Infiniti. If you do drive it in Sport mode, as the reveiwer does, it can get a little thirsty but overall if you're a driver you are in for a super time!!!! I am Maserati for lifer!!!
12:45 - 12:55 Love how spring comes real early this year :-D
Love that shirt!
I think Crank was the word replaced with exhaust :-) - Great Video, funny car.
Owned a Q GTS for 10 years - been brilliant- and adored - its a keeper - modern classic
I do love these cars! Flawed but lovable. Also, I’ve noticed your tridents are missing off the rear pillars just incase you hadn’t!
Great shirt 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Well done for your comment about Top Gear and others taking these on the track as part of ‘testing’! Great review, as usual! By the way, my E320 CDI estate is not doing well, but come and test my stylish black/tan leather Collezione 147 whenever you you become desperate to test something with 120bhp!
Still a design which is the epitome of what a four door saloon could be. Nothing yet to match it, not even the latest QP itself. The sound..The sound!!
Hi my 3200gta will match it any day for sound and performance
Great shirt!
Intoxicating sound!
I enjoyed your comments on the Quatroporte. I own a 2009 Maserati Granturismo S with the 4 liter engine. I love driving it but it only has 30,000 miles on it. It is still gorgeous and runs great. I always drive in manual mode.
Hey George, There never was a 4 liter Granturismo. The base model has 4.2l, the S is s 4.7l.
That engine sound certainly gets my attention.!
The best looking 4 door ever made. Why have the Granturismo when you could have this! The best of Maserati 👌
Finally the review I was waiting for. Thank you. I personally would also like to see a review of a modern (ish) attainable Ferrari, the Scaglietti 612. Not a good looker but great value for money and rather practical..with a great soundtrack.
I wouldn't. Stop promoting it. We're only pushing the price up. 😂😂😂
@@Tential1 Hopefully he will review it , not like it at all and the prices will crash..:P
I'm working on it....
The 612 is a big car. Big presence parked up
Love your videos mate but I've given you a thumbs up just for that shirt 👍
Ps the car sounds amazing
Lovely car always admired this model it’s different it stands out. Only been in a Khamsin loved it!