Why Emperor Palpatine Secretly HATED The Grand Inquisitor
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Lol the thumbnail with the revised inquisitor. You love to see it.
He looks soooo much better . Honestly changing his eyes yellow would do wonders , hopefully they see the complaints and try and change it in Post
@@worldview3182 yea I feel like a small change like that should be able to be made
The shape of the head doesn't bother me too much but the eyes really bugs me. They have Ashoka with blue contact lenses but they couldn't do the Grand Inquisitor? I still really hope that the trailer just used unfinished scenes and they forgot to add the black eyes in post production for it.
@@PixlPlayer Small changes can have a massive impact on any story.
Yeah I don't like it. It's pretty bad when the rebels cartoon version is more intimidating
The inquisitors all come across as being young adults, which suggests to me that they are all former padawans or inexperienced Jedi Knights. As powerful as Vader is, he himself is quite inexperienced in the ways of the dark side so probably not the best person to teach them. It feels like the inquisitors were doomed to fail from the beginning.
because they were made to be, if an inquisitor got to powerful they were killed of, if they killed all the jedi left? they would all be killed of. there was no retirement plan for inquisitors! besides they were made to be doomed to fail
DV didn't need to teach them how to use the Dark Side though.
He needed to teach them how to stop fighting defensively. Most Jedi forms revolve around a "wait and see" style because they view violence as the last possible option.
The Sith are the opposite. They were never going to be Sith, only ever Acolytes, but they still had to be broken out of those habits. Given a newly rebuild Vader 1v1ed the Grand Inquisitor then crippled each of the others without even trying... I'd say he was probably the best for the job at the time.
Not quite. ( see wiki ).The tenth brother was a former jedi master that lost hope in the decisions of the jedi council and The Grand Inquisitor was a jedi temple guard ( at least jedi knight) who was present in Ahsoka trial. Both this individuals were full adults when they lost their trust in the decisions of the jedi order.
The dark side isn't mastered by focus and balance like the light side is, though, so experience is mostly irrelevant in that realm. The only form of "experience" darth vader's role required was that of lightsaber combat, and we all know he was an outstandingly prolific user of Form V.
But Inquisitors were never meant to be anything other than replaceable tools hunting fledgling force wielders before they become too great a nuisance.
They can't be too powerful or they would pose threat to Vader and Sidious, so they are not taught any Sith lore. Even their combat style revolves heavily around built-in advantages of their lightsaber.
Palpatine: I will keep them weak and ignorant so that they could never rival my own power.
Also Palpatine: Ugh, they are so weak and ignorant, I hate them!
Fuck off, old man lol xD
I feel like the Grand Inquisitor doesn't get enough credit, probably because of his sadly short time in Rebels. I hope Kenobi does him justice.
He was my favorite villain for season one of rebels it’s too bad they killed him off I think given the opportunity he would’ve had the chance to defeat Canaan and Ezra
it’ll do him justice but it’ll show just how overall pathetic the inquisitors are. who is the grand inquisitor going to display his great power against? obi wan would demolish him using no arms lol.
More like injustice.
@@InvaderG Not necessarily. I mean, the Grand Inquisitor was a Temple Guardian prior to turning to the Dark Side. They were very formidable combatants, and he was a fully trained Jedi, not a half-trained nobody. He also knew Kenobi and had ample time to study his combat form. Comparing the GI (or any Force User) to the likes of Sidious, Vader, Dooku, Yoda, Mace and so on just isn't even a fair comparison - almost no one of the time could match them. That said, he was enjoyable in Kenobi!
If I'm wrong correct me, The grand Inquisitor was a temple guard so any jedi padawan was an easy target because the Inquisitor was already fully trained in 1 or 2 styles of defence but a night or master would've slayed them in a heart beat. "If they hadn't been in hiding for years apon years" IMO palpatine used them like pawns knowing fine well with or without offence training! A jedi night or master would be able to defeat or fend off any 1 or 2 Inquisitors because of there extensive offensive training so they're predictable and clumsy like darth vader easy stopped and wounded the third sister, Who was a padawan once regardless of his power all he did was defend and pretty much let her lose her own battle. She wasn't fully trained as a jedi nor an Inquisitor so clearly they're really ineffective l.
Every time a Jedi killed an inquisitor there was still one less Jedi since inquisitors were former Jedi (no chance of going back to the light side if dead).
I will admit the inquisitors were incompetent but I do believe the Grand Inquisitor was not worthy of such harsh ridicule as the others and with more training (even though they were supposed to be grunts) could be quite powerful.
well, they are meant to be incompetent so they could never rival Vader or Palpatine. moreover, they were actually even worse in legends as vary few even came to fight even single a Jedi, and when they did they almost always ended up dead even Grand Inquisitors, for example, the famous Legends Inquisitor Jerec had the power of Valley of Jedi on his side and he still lost.
nah he wasn't very good, couldn't even take out 2 low level jedi
I see your point. He did seem to be more trained being a former Jedi and all. To me it seemed like he knew what he was doing was wrong and he just sort of gave up to do the right thing and let go and fell to his death, a martyr with no songs is a sad story.
The Inquisitors were only as strong as the Emperor wanted them to be. Strong enough to hunt a Jedi, but too weak to overthrow him.
@@kevinramsey417 Sidious really had a contingency plane for everything, he was definitely one of the best evil masterminds in movie history.
The Inquisitors are able to handle the majority of the surviving Jedi because the biggest chunk of Order 66 survivors were like Kanan or Cal; Padawans who escaped due to the sacrifices of their masters. But against seasoned Jedi or Jedi Masters, they are outmatched; Ashoka handled two Inquisitors with little difficulty and if they'd gone up against Obi-Wan or Yoda they would have been curb-stomped. And, of course, they have no chance against Sith Lords, which makes me wonder why the fuck the Eighth Brother was stupid enough to try and find Darth Maul on his own.
Got a chuckle at the idea of Palpatine gossiping and hating on the inquisitors to Vader while DV barley pays attention
Lol, the break room gossip on the DeathStar. I heard the microwave smelled like death.
If Palpatine himself had found time to assist in the training of the inquisitors. Then the Jedi aided rebellion would have had much greater stumbling blocks to overcome.
No kidding, but alas, rule two thing blocks that from happening
Hard to find time as emperor
@@itsCraftedPvP Indeed.
The problem was, that Sidious hardly trained his apprentices, whom he considered to be tools or pawns. The inquisitor were even less than that. Perhaps only The Grand Inquisitor was trained by Sidious, all others (sisters/brothers) were trained by Vader.
I mean Darth sidous claimed that he was the culmination of the entire sith even claiming himself as the sithari and to rule eternally as a literal god to wrap the universe to his will. Even if he had to betray the sith to gain more power for himself so be it. He is just another Darth ruin ironically
Vader:
Storms the temple with nothing but clones and duels hundreds of Jedi at a time eventually killing all of them
Inquisitors:
Lightsaber go 🚁
Vader’s instinct to keep hunting the Jedi was actually spot on. For example, had palpatine continued to put all of his effort into murdering the remaining Jedi Luke would have had no teachers and and Vader wouldn’t have been redeemed.
The Inquisitorious was a little more than sub-par. Basically hired mercenary group expendable at that; due to run its course like you mentioned. Plus it would be another thing to worry about if one decided to go on their own quest for power to overthrow. They were destined to be a temporary force. They could potentially be a problem for the Empire in the long run considering dark Jedi can easily be as treacherous and betray just as a Sith. I also believe that is why the inquisitors were not taught the dark arts of the Sith. They were meant to be kept somewhat weak yet affective in some circumstances.
I always saw them as basically what Jedi Knights would be right after they embraced the dark side. Probably no additional training in terms of the Force but Vader did train them in embracing pain.
But, the Grand Inquisitor was indeed allowed to read the all the information in the jedi temple library
@@childishisnotachild7277 Grand Inquisitor I believe to be an exception. He was a Temple Guardian which I would assume to be a high position that requires a high amount amount of training. Grand Inquisitor was a tough mofo.
I agree with Palpatine. He was THE Sith Lord and during the time of the empire(at least in canon) there were no worthy apprentices more capable than Darth Vader and Vader even as shell of his former self still remained far more worthy to be the Sith Lords apprentice. The emperor and his empire had far more important issues to deal with than lesser force wielders.
Well said my friend 👍🏾.
You have spoken I agree as well
@@fredcoleman6594 lol 😂
Not only that. Darth Vader was THE Dark User to go, as it was foretold in the prophecy, during his lifetime. The Jedi knew that. Palpatine knew that.
It was like he was married to the 11 out of 10 girl, and he would never even have to waste his time looking for anything better.
That explanation of Sidious' motives makes it seem like he really resented the Rule of Two and the millennium of isolation. While it is clear he aimed to scrap the Rule of Two, it had certainly served to produce him and elevate him, plus it had been a Sith idea, the creation of Bane in order to address his personal critique of the Old Sith. Wasn't Jedi doing.
at least from this one vid i dont think sidious disliked the rule of 2 he always followed it. he just disliked that they didn't have many competent higher ups bc vader would want to personally deal with things. he wanted vader to let things go a little and focus on more productive tasks but vader kept wanting to hunt down force sensitives even super weak ones which to be fair is a waste of time when you are one of the strongest beings in the galaxy at the time. maul was like sidious during clone wars. i dont want to spoil but from when was first introduced he was more like anikain wanting to be in the middle of everything and battle. after/during clone wars maul was more methodical and stronger also similar to sidious he recognized the value of being the mastermind behind the scenes and doing the super important tasks and leaving super simple things to others. i think anakin (btw i always struggle with his name lol) anyways, vader was so new to the dark side and didn't have a perspective changing experience that would allow him to become a more wise sith.
Man I wish they could’ve made the grand inquisitor actually look like that in the live action version
Nobody expects the incompetence of the inquisition of the first Galactic Empire.
Thumbs up for mel brooks reference 😂
NGL, seems like they trained them poorly (likely on purpose) and then got surprised they were incompetent.
Quantity over quality, it’s the reason the sith became the rule of 2 in the first place
Palpatine is that Boy though! A ruthless stone cold calculated villain for all time. Just not as evil & ruthless as Disney 😳
Palpatine pales when compared to Disneys evil.
They seriously need to fix the grand inquistor's menacing eyes in Kenobi show... Really cool that he's even in the show either way.
It was Palpatine vs everyone. He didn’t care who you were
Ahsoka handled multiple inquisitors with ease. I guess "Anakin" was a far better teacher than "Vader" ever was.
Wow your right
I would like to see her fight the Grand Inquisitor.
Do you really think Vader would want to train a potential replacement?
@@CarbonKrazie It is the way of the Sith
@@katiepersons6575 Yeah, there are already 2 siths, the Master and the apprentice.
Love the outro music, very fitting!
In legends the Inquisitors were all over the place in terms of ability. Some were quite deadly and a genuine threat on their own, such as Jerec.
Jedi Fallen Order does a good job for me of showing their power (at least perceived) to normal citizens of the Empire and then having Vader completely squash it like a bug to show his power far out ranks them.
I liked that you fixed him in the thumbnail
I definitely agree the Inquisitors were incompetent against true jedi masters. Only against stragglers and padawans were they effective. But once they found a proper jedi master Vader had to step in and take care of the jedi master as they would fail. And usually Vader would also take care of the Inquisitor as well cutting th down as they were useless!
Same thing happened in the video game Jedi Fallen Order. Cal Cestis is a padawan, a promising young force sensitive who couldn't complete his training yet, but somehow defeated some inquisitors became an official Jedi Knight and at the end he defeated the third sister, Trilla. Probaby these actions attracted Vader. Right at that moment, Vader appeared and killed (executed) the inquisitor because of her defeat and came after Cal Cestis.
Palpatine's a puppet master and is obsessed with stacking the odds in his favor in the fastest way he can so this doesn't surprise me.
Let’s be frank here: I don’t think there were many people who ol’ Sheev didn’t hate.
"A fascination that would become... inSIDIOUS..."
The 5th Brother and 7th Sister were the essential Saturday morning cartoon villains
Palps: I made this
Also Palps: I hate this
I think Kenobi hast to show us some competent inquisitors 00. Star Wars has a problem with making the villains too weak, they need to have more moments like in rogue one where the death troopers were actually mowing down main characters. We have to believe that these guys are actually tough and are capable of winning at least some of the time
The only competent Inquisitor in Obi Wan is still the Grand Inquisitor
Well maybe the emperor and Vader should’ve trained them better, yeah, yeah, it was dangerous to his rule to have competent dark force wielders but maybe crack up their training a little better would’ve made them more efficient
Seven sister was among the best inquisitor. Tenth brother who was a master jedi died very easily in darth vader comic and sixth brother died to a clone wars ahsoka who didn't wield a lightsaber. In my opinion, The Grand Inquisitor was the Ventress of the Gaactic Empire. (Masaki as the primary fighting style, trained in the dark side and jedi past abandonment and both of the aspired to be a sith). Grand Inquisitor lost primary because the rebels had plot armor... (he repeatedly beat Kanan; he had major opportunities in which he could have ended the rebels)
Still pissed off all these years later at how they wasted his character
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl Yes, he should have been kept for season 3 or 4. At least, if he was defeated by a season 4 Kanan it would have been more believable...
I think he should have been the main villain of the series
@@sosaskykiller3433 Maybe he will be the sub boss in the kenobi series. Imagine, the grand inquisitor loosing to kenobi in an epic duel and reporting to vader that kenobi is alive and only a sith can deal with him! :)
I love that the thumbnail does not use the actual lucasfilm actor but instead the better looking photoshopped pic.
I think Palpatines harsh opinion of the inquisitors stems from the fact Vader trained them yet they were still unimpressive making Vader appear less skilled
Palpatine and Vader both intended to make them unimpressive though,
Palpatine isn't stupid. He knows that vader would never train someone to be strong enough to replace vader.
Who is stronger Inquisitor or Emperor’s Shadow Guard.
I think Grand Inquisitor is stronger but Shadow Guards are like inquisitors that graduated lol. Maul dealt with Inquisitors like they were some padawans and Maul was on the level of the Jedi Council, maybe right behind Windu. Shadow guards to me are so badass so i always put them at either Council level or right below, either way enough to hunt down remaining Jedi and protect the Emperor from the Rebels
I love seeing clips from the 2003 Clone Wars and the Force Unleashed. Good times
You mean when you intentially hold back training the in the dark side of people that were once jedi, they won't preform well? no way..who could have seen that coming. Certainly not the man that didn't see his apprentice turn on him.
This is like the fifth video I scene on someone important on the empires side hating the inquisition
Palpatine: Lord Vader.
Vader: Yes, Master.
Palpatine: Keep this to yourself, but I hate the Grand Inquisitor.
Vader: Why, master?
Palpatine: His head is too round and small. He looks nothing like he did in Rebels.
Vader: Yes, my master. Shall I get pizza?
Palpatine: Yes, pizza would be delightful.
Vader: How many, master?
Palpatine: Order 66.
Cody in the back:" It will be done, my lord."
How did palpatine train vader? Did he have whistle like a coach? Id like to see how that looked
If Ol' Pappy Palpatine is anything like the internet, then he too hates fat headed Inquisitors.🤣🤣🤣
Awesome
Honestly, the greatest example of what an inquisitor could be was probably Jerec, as he nearly took over the empire.
Jerec though was formerly a Jedi Master himself I doubt Darth Vader did little if any training really with him.
Never watched latest clone wars. Looks and sounds really good.
*Vader and Sheevy spot a Jedi*
Vader: Is that a Jedi?
Sheev: Yes
Vader: Imma kill it
Sheev: Don't you do it
Vader: Imma kill it
*ignites lightsaber*
The inquisitiors greatest asset was that NO ONE would ever expect the Darkside Inquisition!!! 😂
Secretly- was Palpatine famously all about hatred...?
Well, it kind of makes sense.
In Legends, the Inquisitors were a bigger presence (although mostly in books aimed at Young Adult readers, which is where I first read of them, even though I was wall past Young Adult myself ^_^).
They seem to have been just a 'blip' in New Canon history, and the Emperor's opinion of them helps explain why: He simply put no resources towards keeping them equipped, trained, or replaced if necessary.
where does this info come from?
Can relate to the Emperor getting tired of hearing about yet another Order 66 survivor.
I mean, having Sith-like soldiers despite Sidious' Rule of Two does make sense why he'd be mad.
The majority of Inquisitors were essentially Jedi who were too weak to resist the Dark Side or just opted for self-preservation in the face of extermination (can't really blame them). And the Sith generally frowned upon fallen Jedi in their ranks, as they believed them to be weak, lacking true understanding of the Dark Side due to being tainted by the teachings of the Jedi. Palpatine was a true Sith, Vader on the other hand was just a very powerful fallen Jedi, who returned to the Light Side at the end.
Don't forget Sidious had Lords like Vitiate and Exar Kun to look up to. He had standard to hold.
Because he looks like Pennywise the Clown with a haircut?
Silly goose. Palpatine was a dark lord of the sith he does not need a reason to hate anyone. He just hates by default.
It’s because he stole Daddy Palp’s last Pizza slice.
Waddya mean he secretly hates the inquisitor? He obviously hates everybody.
This explains much, such as to why the Inquisitors seemed to just vanish, becuz Sidious was so contemptuous of their incompetence and their disgrace, despite the flaws in their training under Vader (who, I would like to point out, was hardly qualified to teach them in the first place)
So, rather than restore the ranks and train new Inquisitors, he just let them run their course until they were all gone. They had some successes, but ultimately they were deemed failures and embarrassments unworthy of serving their emperor
Sidious should have realized, they were all fallen Jedi, so of course they were hopelessly flawed to begin with, and that was only exacerbated by their torturous training under Vader. But no, Sidious took cruel and petty pleasure in breaking these Jedi and reforging them into instruments of killing, seeing them break under torture and agony and then submit and become twisted with bitterness and cruelty.
It would have been more effective to start from scratch and train force-sensitives who were not jedi or aligned with any other force-related faction; such individuals would have been perfect clay to mold into the ideal darkside servants Sidious desired, the perfect agents to carry out his will and spread terror and death to his enemies no matter what remote corners of the galaxy they might hide in, and they would surely have been more effective and far more dangerous than the likes of the Inquisitors
He did try finding new force sensitives.
He sent Vader to capture Jocasta Nu and a holocron that contained all the known force sensitives.
Jocasta told Vader this, then called him out as Anakin Skywalker (forcing Vader to kill all the clones he had with him) and then died at the hands of Vader.
Vader then destroyed the Holocron so he couldn't be replaced so easily.
I'm convinced palpatine only really loved Mara Jade and Tarkin
there was an inquistor in star wars unleashed who basically soloed like four jedi at once
Palpatine hated everyone equally for he thinks he is better than everyone else. Keep in mind that Palpatine wanted to be greater than just the force or anything or anyone to be consider to be a god.
Sith life goals, he wanted dominion over all that was living
@@Hysube so palpatine is sauron
@@santi_super_stunts2573 in some aspect the same beast with a different face indeed, he wanted to be a physical manifestation of "god"
His hatred was not as intense as vitiate. Palpatine wanted to control everything. Vitiate wanted to destroy everything.
I think Palpatine went cheap on using them...is his own doing, he could kept Maul as a sith assasin or even General Grievious or hire Cad Bane, but in storytelling you have to place some flaws on the villains in order for the heroes to exploit that.
he couldnt keep grievous, he served his purpose, the most feared and hated face of the cis
@@nameynamename3758 imagine if Krell survived how great of an assassin he would have been for Sidious lmao.
This kind of comes full circle to when he had cad band kidnap the children for him this probably would of been 1st generation inquisitors meaning earth Vader pretty much is the reason he had to resort to fallen Jedi…
Palpatine didn’t like the size of the Grand Inquisitors forehead
The second sister and ninth sister were also pretty badass
You get what you pay for. Should have offered Inquisitors better hourly rate and WFH.
Palpatine hated everyone. He was famous for it! Next please.
I don't know why but I would like to see a story where a Jedi makes some kind of deal with the force.
Whatever happened to the Grand Inquisitor’s Sith eyes in live-action?
I hope the trailer just used unfinished footage and they forgot to add the eyes in post production. I can't see any reason why they would forget such an important detail. Imagine if Cad Bane's reveal was just a dude with his face painted blue. I can live with the shape of the head but those eyes ruin the look.
He forgot to put in his yellow contacts
@@shaydowsith348 apparently lol
Dude, Palps hated everyone 😂
Do you think Quinlan Vos would defeat The grand Inquisitor. I wonder If he is the jedi who will appear in kenobi , it would be cool to see them duel and potentially bring vader in the mix
He would eat Grand Inquisitor.
Grand Inquisitor was killed by a padawan. Even if Kanan was skilled, still not on a warrior Jedi Master level like Quinlan Vos.
I also don't see how Inquisitors can be main villains in Kenobi show, he's just too OP for them.
i kinda feel like he just hates everyone, and it's not really all that secret.
Was the grand inquisitor invented for the cartoons? I don’t remember them in novels.
I hate Grand Inquisitor too. Palpatine 4ever!
Before the great emperor it was always chaos and war. Finally some strong fist to establish order and peace.
@@12bru63 You spit facts bro.
@@12bru63 I know this is a joke but, you know, he manipulated the war and started it, right?
Emperor Palpatine hated everybody.
Palpatine hates everything.
They were simply doomed from the start because none of them are Sith. Sith do not share power or knowledge. Something Sidious and Vader's power struggle / dynamic is completely dependent upon. If Vader knew all the things Sidious did, he would of chucked him along time ago and gone for his son. Same for the inquisitors if they even knew a quarter of what Palptaine knew they probably would of been a terrible reckoning and would of also tried to usurp their Sith overlords. Strong enough to do their task, weak enough to be rid of once it is complete.
I never even knew that he really didn't like the grand inquisitior
The Inquisitors were a embarrassment not only to the Empire , but to the Dark Side itself .
Emperor Palpatine should have allowed Lord Vader to slaughter them all and rid the galaxy of their incompetence.
I mean, Palpatine had so many fucking operations, going to undermine Vader while also help him while also, just for shits and giggles, undermine one of his opportunities to undermine him while also surprising that opportunity with a assassination attempt that undermines another one of his attempt because he likes fucking chaos and evil shit
He hated all of them. Sending them out agaisnt jedi was just so they would die.
I think they’re opening up some really good lore. I’d love to see one have a redemption arc
It’s just how Palpatine was. He hated everyone. Darth Vader, Tarkin, Doris the tea lady. He was just a bit of a prick really.
Frankly I always felt like the Inquisitors were inconsistent with the philosophy of the Sith.
No because of their lack of Sith training
How can they be "inconsistent with the philosophy of the Sith" when Inquisitors are not even Sith themselves? Using the darks side and having a red blade doesn't automatically mean you are a member of the sith order.
"Hate"? No, I never hated anyone, I thought he was wonderful!
What about Inquisitor jerec from Legends
It was probably because of his head.
Vader might not have been the best teacher but palpating was to busy and plus he probably knew Vader was inexperienced and didn’t want the inquisitors to become a problem the the Sith
Imagine if Maul had become an inquisitor just to have a chance to kill sidious
I gotta agree with this assessment, I mean I haven't watched rebels but take Jedi fallen order like you said the character you're playing is essentially a padwan who throughout the game you're re-learning a lot of skills you lost over time. Anyways the inquisitor that's chasing you should be up to snuff with their skills because they've been at this for a while, yet can't really beat you outright. *spoiler* Then fucking Darth Vader comes in at the end and is just a force to behold that you can't even put up a half decent fight against and your best chance to survive is to just run away. Like I get they're not supposed to be as powerful and as skilled as Vader but from what I can tell is it's like a padwan Jedi vs Master Yoda.
I wonder how they will fair in the new Kenobi show.
I love people who complain about how his proportions aren’t the same as the cartoon…. It’s a uh, a cartoon, the real thing will never look the exact same.
Sidious hated everyone
I’ll be honest - after multiple views as a long time avid Star Wars fan, the Grand Inquisitor design has grown on me.
If your grand inquisitor lost to a noob like kanan you'd secretly hate him too.
That was a lot of low resolution clips of Palpatine
He didn't....that's like saying he secretly loved yoda.
Of course Sideous doesn’t being the malignant covert/overt narcissist that he is!
This is what makes all of these storm troopers, former Sith like Dooku and Maul, generals, inquisitors, and other such personnel such tragic villains in my eyes even if they all were murderers and terrorists themselves.
Hideous, as I like to nickname him, truly cared about nobody else but himself!