Palpatine Reveals His GREATEST Disappointment In the Empire - Star Wars Explained
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Palpatine couldn't have run the Empire any other way. Another reason he fostered a culture of backstabbing was because of his own paranoia. If his subordinates are busy backstabbing each other, they're less likely to try and challenge him. If the Empire had a more cooperative culture, Palpatine would get paranoid that someone would team up and try to take him down. And he would have burned the Empire down before allowing that to happen.
That's similar to what a certain dictator did back in World War II. Create overlapping responsibilities and encourage arguments so they can't reunite against him.
Funny autrian man@@TheKulu42
as you said ironically enough this was the problem of the old Sith Empire too busy fighting each other to challenge the big ruler
@@apsoypike1956 Accounts of meetings held by Stalin where he got his immediate subordinates drunk and played them off against one another are chilling - he would wait for any sign of weakness and then strike. It didn't matter how high any of those commissars had risen, or how powerful they were. If Stalin's paranoia focused on one of them, they were a dead man.
Totally agree. Having power over a world is monumental, but over an entire galaxy, even if there's major in-fighting, losing a governor here or there doesn't matter in the long-run. Power is inherently unstable b/c it's like a drug, and, like any addictive drug, anybody who's had a taste of it and are in its direct vicinity will crave it, so a ruler that wields an incomprehensible amount of power will do anything to maintain it. If everyone was allowed to work together, there would still be constant power grabs b/c everybody would want to rise through the ranks to accrue more power. If they're all busy fighting each other, nobody will challenge the ruler, but it will always fall apart eventually, but for the ruler, their power will last longer if everybody else is fighting with each other, rather than teaming up to take them down. This is just human nature, as has been demonstrated throughout history since the dawn of civilization.
You can see the complete opposite of this kind of command aboard Thrawn's ships. He will not hesitate a moment to order an entire division of troopers to a hopeless battle as part of a delaying action if necessary. Yet will not waste a single pilot or trooper's life if not necessary. He values them as not just the highly trained resources they are but as people in and of themselves. The men under his command see and understand this quite clearly. And they also understand the difference between him and others they've served under. Which is why they revere him so highly & would willingly give their life for him.
Palpatine could not have ruled any other way than the way he did or he wouldn't have been Sith.
Thrawn is the GOAT
Being that I'm a Star TREK fan in addition to being a Star Wars fan, I'm reminded of 2 quotes from Star Trek: TNG, referring to BOTH sides of this question: In the TNG episode “Lower Decks”, when a Cardassian spy is asked why he helps the Federation, he says, “All my life I've served in the military. Once, it was an institution dedicated to the security of Cardassia. Now, it's little more than a platform for ambitious guls hoping to make their reputations in battle. If the information I've provided helps Starfleet deter even one pointless skirmish, I've served my purpose.”
In the episode “A Matter of Honor”, Worf states that “The Klingon system (for a weak captain to be assassinated by his 1st officer) has operated successfully for centuries.”
I don't think it would have been possible for Palpatine to have the Empire function more effectively. As a Sith, he wanted power more than anything and the last thing he wanted to risk was losing it (as he taught Anakin). The best way he could guarantee that a usurper couldn't stab *him* in the back was by ensuring they were too busy trying to prevent being stabbed in the back *themselves*. Keep everyone in the bureaucracy busy fighting for their own survival so that they couldn't unite against *him*... "divide and conquer" on an interpersonal level. He was too fearful of an up-and-coming NEW Palpatine gunning for his throne to risk giving them breathing room.
Love the answer, but there's something I don't understand. The Rule-of-Two was supposed to ensure that every generation of Sith Lord got better/stronger...and yet this "expanded" version of the rule-of-two among his officers (all backstabbing each other) DIDN'T produce better and better people--somehow they just got WORSE! Like...why?
Because they thought as long as they got results, they would be above the politicking like Thrawn. But like Thrawn, the “good” officers would be less prepared for a backstabbing and would be weeded out quickly. Thrawn, Tagge, And Sloane were some of the few exceptions.
Not being able to micromanage and people undercutting eachother for Palpatines favor. The end
This is why Thrawn is so dangerous. an Empire forged by him would be a compotent Empire
The Empire of the Hand in Legends - Thrawn's "shadow Empire" created to fight the Yuuzhan Vong -- was just that. The rebels are just lucky that the Empire of the Hand had zero interest whatsoever in the Core Worlds.
And Thrawn would never have hired Tarkin and his doctrine. No brutality, no cruelty, so no reason for the galaxy to rebel in the first place.
Guys! Nobody really talks about this! Palpatine was old and he was fully embracing the darkside for over 40 years. He wasn't Yoda species who could live over 500 years. He wasn't Valkorian who lived over a 1000 years because he kept changing bodies. It didn't matter how powerful Palpatine was as a Sith lord, he was old along with his body and mind!
His council told him months ago GTA6 would be out by now …
Ahahhahahahahaha right !!
Nah, it was the newest Elder Scrolls.
Told him mw3 wasn’t a mw2 reskin with some new features
I like Vader even more after hearing this. This was a good one
He repeated the mistakes of the past. It was like that in The Old Republic, too. The Sith are too individualistic and obsessed with personal power. They throw away the lives of their subordinates in a wild bid for personal power or they're too busy fighting people who are supposed to be on the same side as them, rather than working together.
The Sith, when not in power, can be terrifyingly effective by simply pointing them at the Jedi and saying: 'There's your enemy. These are the guys that are keeping you from achieving your goals.' Put a competent leader in their ranks, and as long as they have one united, focused goal, there's not much that can stand in their way. But once they have that power and threw the Jedi out on their asses, their lust for power and control has nowhere else to go. Without that singular focus, they have nothing else to do with their power and the next big threat is, ironically, themselves. The flaw of the Sith is that they always succumb to infighting and petty grabs for power.
The flaw of the Jedi is that they become lazy and complacent, when they're in power for too long. It's a never ending tug of war. One side pulls on their side of the rope when they're ready and the other side falls over, but afterwards, they get back up and prepare to pull back and it never stops. They're both flawed in their own ways, but since they also cannot co-exist, this is all they know how to be.
Oh yeah, I remember them specifically pointing this out in the SWTOR imperial agent storyline. When launching their assault on Corellia, the Agent finds that a good portion of imperial forces are being wasted on Sith power struggles.
Its funny to see palpatine not want to make the sith stale yet, under palpatine it became stale anyway
What truly did the Empire in, was the Death Stars.
Rather than working behind the scenes, to weaken the Rebels by turning the different factions against each other and freeing up some of his resources to discourage those on the fence about supporting their cause and rewarding his loyal allies, the Emperor chose the Tarkin doctrine; a heavy handed shock & awe strategy. Which did the opposite of what he likely (in his right mind) was hoping for.
Sidious got lazy after he became emperor. And he let the underlings run things. And that was his downfall
Wrong
@@markxv2267 bullshit... that is the truth..your Wrong
Yes, he became lazy and even allowed Tarkin do dictate how the empire's army would look like and act, including destroying a very important and beloved planet.
Actually it was Sidious's ego that was his undoing. Luke was right in saying that Emperor Palpatine's overconfidence was his weakness. Overconfidence leads to carelessness and cockiness and such behavior is common enough amongst villains by their egotistical nature.
Bro really quoted Lincoln in a star wars video
it was empire runed by ambitious backstabbers
In truth the Empire was never the problem in it's ideals, methods, or philosophy, but it was who was running the Empire that it would eventually lead to it's destruction. The Sith although powerful cared very little about their people and supported toxic ideologies believing that only the strong can rule and the weak shall perish. Without loyalty there is no trust, without leadership there is no army, without allies there is no strength and without strength there is no power.
Imagine the Empire without the Sith controlling it behind the scenes and you must ask the question would the galaxy be a better place if the Empire had no affiliation with the Sith.
Even after achieving what he ultimately wanted and exacting revenge for the 1,000 + year exiled Sith, he found ruling the Empire to be mundane at the best of times.
Munane means (boring and lacking excitement)
That's 1 thing for sure
That’s what makes Admiral Thrawn so dangerous to the New Republic. If given the reigns of the Galaxy, he would build a new Empire that would reward competence and efficiency; and punish the greedy and corrupt. Ironically, the ultimate victory of the First Order in the Imperial Civil War would be a long term blessing to the Third Republic.
Himself, he was destroyed by his over confidence
It's weird to hear someone quote the Bible in a star wars video but I love it.
I don't see how Palpatine could fix it. I mean the only cure for stupid is judicious use of force lightning to the face.
The US government does this on a department scale and I'm surprised how well it works 🤷
Yup. One of the reasons why the military cant retain anyone. Now look at them
It reminds me of something Tywin Lannister said about a King (I thin it was Baratheon), wo believed that conquering a realm was the same as ruling it. And most apparently, Sidious was good at taking it over but quite mediocre in ruling it and holding it together.
Yes we see this in the andor series. A dog eat dog mentality has everyone working against one another instead of mutual cooperation for the common good.
We know Vader did not see the universe the same as is master in all respects. Vader was a Sith with a background in the Jedi arts and in War. Palpatine was a politician through and through. I like to think executing 'connected' officers was also a refutation of Palpatine's idea of rule; Palpatine believed in cunning, Vader believed in meritocracy.
Even in the lightsaber, Palpatine expected Vader to replicate his 'antique' of a weapon, instead Vader created a true power tool of destruction.
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Why did I write this comment, it's because I don't think Vader was keeping the right of Sith tradition for himself, I think he personally hated his master's encouragement of born elitest rule.
I think Legends had a far more realistic take on things, with the Empire gradually weakening over 15 years after Endor, and eventually they themselves offering an olive branch to the New Republic in a peace treaty. But I suppose a long, drawn-out war that ends with styli on datapads is not dramatic enough for Disney.
He should have implemented an employee of the month award. 🤷🏻♂️😆
Guys, it hasn’t even been 10 minutes
You could say the other imperials were a... Thrawn in his side.
I'll see myself out
It's like the punchline of a bad joke and yet it is truly hilarious. Palpatine/Sidious thought he could operate his Galactic Empire like the old Sith Empire, but in his arrogance he overlooked the fact that only he, Vader, and a few servants, like the Inquisitors, were force-sensitive and could draw insight and foresight from the Dark Side of the Force. Instead, the ways of the Old Sith became the biggest weakness of Palpatine's Empire, disgracing the Sith and making Palpatine himself look like a fool. And yet he could not allow for true and sincere camaraderie between his subordinates due to his paranoia that they would unite and usurp him, as usurping the master had been the way of the Sith for roughly a thousand years as decreed by Darth Bane.
Palpatine's mistake is what gave the Rebel Alliance the slack they needed to build themselves up and resist the Empire's oppressive regime, by taking advantage of the sheer incompetence and backstabbing that weakened and divided the many Imperial Officers who only sought their own glory, power, prestige, and wealth instead of truly standing for the Empire. Only Thrawn, and to some extent Vader, as well as a few fanatical imperials truly fought for the Empire, which is what made them so dangerous and effective in fighting the Rebellion. Had there been more of them, the Rebellion would have been crushed long before it ever truly became an alliance, and the Empire would have ruled the galaxy completely unopposed.
But Palpatine feared being usurped and betrayed, not only by his apprentice, Vader, but by some of his most competent and effective officers, such as Tarkin and perhaps even Thrawn. Palpatine does not truly understand or appreciate the concepts of Loyalty and Honor becuz he is a Sith. He refuses to sincerely give someone his trust becuz to him, to trust and rely on someone is to be vulnerable and weak. No, Sidious makes demands and he expects his orders to be followed and obeyed. And even if someone is truly loyal to him, Sidious will never return that loyalty, only use it and then cast such loyalty away when it is of no further use to him. He did it to Dooku, he did it to Rampart, and he tried multiple times to do it to Vader. He would all but certainly have done it to Tarkin had he lived as punishment for his blunder with Alderaan. Palpatine is more subtle but even Vader once stated that the emperor is even less forgiving than he.
Those consumed with evil are literally incapable of *not* being two-faced and treacherous. That's why any political system created by the Sith always contains within it the seeds of its own destruction.
This seriously sounds like it was written and narrated by chat GPT
Now I just want to know. What are Palpatine's top 3 disappointments (be it in just the Empire or overall)?
Himself :)
The Empires first crack in competence was, in my opinion, the decision to go with conscripted troops instead of continuing use of Jango Fett clones. Yes, cloning is expensive, but Boba was available to substitute, and the Clone Army were far more efficient and capable of killing their targets, unlike Stormtrooper
You forgot to mention Darth Bane's requirement of a "legitimate challenge". He Told Zannah that the apprentice must challenge the master in honest duel to take the throne. Pretty much the only time a sith should not backstab or double cross. Part of Bane's rule of two sith order was to eliminate a weaker sith backstabbing a stronger one.
Pretty much everyone in the Empire is disposable.
Always wondered how the empire got anything done if everyone was busy throwing others under the bus
Because it started with the mighty republic
Perhaps it's time the sith undergo another change
@@persuasivebarrier2419 No, not at all. But the constant scheming and betrayal aspect that they encourage clearly does more harm than good in the long run.
@@persuasivebarrier2419 I meant harm to the sith. It's one of the reasons Darth Bane created the rule of 2 so the sith order wouldn't be destroyed by their own infighting. Like the video said, a house divided can never stand.
This is why the dark side always fails.
The empire's dog eat dog nature, always meant that despite the resources and manpower at its disposal, that it would be hamstrung by respective admirals and generals trying to one up each other in order to rise up the ranks to the detriment of the success of the empire as a whole.
Wow this documentary on the Chinese government was great
I think i'd prefer Highlander rule, The Rule Of One:
There Can Be Only One.
Hard to argue with this. Though Palpatine may have been a cunning mastermind, as Emperor he had his blindspots.
With everything talked about, it makes more sense as to how the Empire fell and fragmented so quickly. In the end though, his most spectacular mistakes was turning father against son. If he had remembered just one name - Padme - perhaps he would've reconsidered his plan. Unlike himself, Vader was not a true follower of the Sith.
As an aside, in the scenario where Vader survives and doesn't turn back to the Light, therefore taking up the role of Emperor, I think that he would've only delayed the fall. What did Anakin say? "My new empire." I'd guess that there would be reforms, purges, and a more aggressive stance against what he'd consider to be disorder within the galaxy.
_The strong do what they will. The weak suffer what they must._
-- Thucydides
Unfortunately Anakin didn't see that he was been used for Sidious for the order 66. Palpatine was a master to disguise the scenario. He care about him to see where goes Anakins limitations but not develop him as the next in the throne. I think that Palpatine was blind to his power and hard to accept that Anakin could be even better to him. If he really care about Anakin he was going to do anything to avoid turn Anakin in Vader...because the Dark was always with both. I think Palpatine was jealous and hidden an envy that feel against Anaking
He wasn't blind to Anakin's power. In Revenge of the Sith he even tells Yoda that "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." This was of course before Anakin became KFC, but Sidious did know when he established the Empire that Anakin would surpass him. Even after Mustafar Palpatine knew that if he gave Vader proper cybernetics Vader would both want to and be able to kill him.
@@witherslayer4239 Of course Palpatine was blind to himself with a veil,. No doubt he was. He was so blind the he was hiding the real true intention. He was so evil in his blindness that we a soft tone and making questions over and over the Council and making stupid all the Jedi and the Republic. Imagine the USA exist!
He had already created the solution in both dooku and darth maul. Problem was palpatine squandered both of them.
Why would anyone _want_ to be Sith Lord, and have an apprentice, if he's always killed by an apprentice?
Vader, who clearly wasn't entertained by these political games, who'd known at least a thing or two about teamwork, who'd certainly despise the self-centered and corrupt high ranking officers and governors while at the same time showing at least some respect for the enlisted personnel, who didn't really appreciate an unnecessarily expensive battle station and yet was the only one to give an order that gave it at least a chance of not being destroyed, who did in fact fly along with the pilots whom he ordered to defend that first Death Star, whose force and lightsaber grew even better, in part, due to him learning from Dooku and Kenobi, taking from what they did well to improve his own abilities... MAYBE he could've run the Empire differently.
Thrawn, who similarly didn't appreciate the games of backstabbing that most other high ranking officers and governors were infamous for, who would prioritize the completion of a mission over his personal glory, who appreciated the value of each soldier who served under him and worked hard to avoid a singular unnecessary casualty, who actually had the maturity and humility to study his opponents, to respect them, and to avoid underestimating them... MAYBE he could've run the Empire differently.
There's a good reason, after all, why both of them reached a certain level of mutual respect that neither of them tended to have for most other high ranking members of the Empire. And yet I don't think it'd've been their personal flaws that would've risked their failure as Emperor, should either of them have somehow replaced Palpatine, as much as the fact that the backstabbing culture had been planted way too deeply by Palpatine, and as good as either of them could've possibly come to be on the throne, they'd still be dealing with high ranking people more interested in their own renown than in the very Empire they served, a culture very hard to erradicate once established.
But at least they might've stood a chance. Palpatine, on the other hand, was simply incapable of showing any of these relatively positive traits, let alone of even beginnning to inspire such traits on his officers. Ironic how the apprentice Sidious all but gave up on, and a member of a species other than the humans the Empire would violently raise above all others, would've both likely ended up becoming better Emperors than Palpatine could ever have been. No matter how much power in the force. with Palpatine the question wasn't if, but when the Empire would finally destroy itself.
And then of course there's Operation Cinder, the ultimate demonstration of just how much the Empire existed for Palpatine alone and not "for a safe and secure society".
No wonder Darth Vader keeps choking out officers bc everybody in the Empire is a complete A-hole
This is probably the biggest reason why the empire didn’t last as long as it could’ve. At least in Star Wars Cannon. It lasted only for 24 years. I think in Star Wars legends, it lasted another 15 years after the battle of Endor. That is not a good sign when you consider the old Sith empires that were big like Darth Vitiates empire lasted for hundreds if not, thousands of years. Also, for the regular people in the galaxy, Darth Vitiates Empire probably had a separate system for chain of command that wasn’t part of the higher-ups but that’s just my guess. But again, how was it able to last far longer in Star Wars legends?
It's simply because the legend continuity bothered to have it slowly falling apart after Endor
This shows how Galactic Empire was corrupted and evil. Inner fighting,arguements,extreme disobedience. This was terrible system. I understand why Vader chocked captains and commanders. Thrawn was huge success for the Empire. And his Empire was EXACT opposite to the original Empire! You explained everything earlier. Many holocrons back. Rebellion fought for peace,justice,freedom,equality,love. May the Force be with you too😊
Palpatine basically the spoiled brat that squandered his trust fund
Does anyone have any examples of what Empire that could've worked for Sidious? I personally think the Roman or Persian Empires would've been better models or maybe a combination of the two? But what do you think?
i say probally the early persian empire of cyrus or Ashoka Mauryan empire but i doubt they would work that much with sidious
@@arishemghoul9571---Those aren't bad comparisons. Thanks for responding.
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Why does his throne have peyronies disease...?
Vader killed more imperial officers than the Rebels did... was he just under deep cover all that time?
The student must grow more powerful than the master , then destroy the master .
Because , only the strong should rule .
Besides..............
What purpose does a master serve when he is no longer of any use ?
complete control is total failure
It is best not to mix Legends (Expanded Universe) with Canon. In the Expanded Universe, Darth Sidious was the most powerful Sith ever. However, in Canon, he was one of the weakest. He had narrow vision, meaning that he couldn't see the dangers in front of him. In the first six films, he rarely showed any Sith abilities. The only actual Sith technic he used was lightning, to torture Luke. It was only in Revenge of the Sith, that we saw him use a lightsaber for the first time.
One thing I loved about Legends is that it established that the Emperor was both racist and sexist (which, if you look at the Imperial officers shown in the OT... yeah....) Thus hinting that the best candidates for officer positions were rarely chosen.
Unfortunately, Vader force choked and killed half of the admirals😂
Simple this is a fantasy story and in fantasy good always beats the evil
So essentially the only flaw with the empire, just like the separatists, was that it was run by a Sith and/or people who held similar ideals to the Sith.
Palpatine's Greatest Disappointment with The Empire:
They bolted his throne room chair to the floor, right under the AC vent. And that's after they lost his luggage during the flight to the Death Star II.
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And of course, they wouldn't have even needed a Death Star II, if his Dark Lord of the Sith had protected a port that was only 2 meters wide.
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"What the hell is an Aluminium Falcon?!"
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Day 305 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Oh “A house divided cannot stand” isn’t so ancient lol. Jesus said it 😊.
And yet this philosophy is why the empire ultimately failed.
This is why politics doesn’t work here on earth too
Matthew, 12:25: “And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.” - Jesus Christ
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The Sith were always selfish and Darwinist. The Jedi was always about being selfless and serving plus protecting the weak.
So basically, instead of the other officers taking a look at Thrawn as a good example and trying to up their own game, they instead decided to be "modern women" and try tear him down. Is that the gist of it? 😅
Modern women that do not want to be rape dolls anymore ?
Palpatine’s strength was always overrated. Under different circumstances what happened in age of The Chosen One could and should have been avoided.
The Galactic Empire is one of many examples why fascism always will fail and empires will always inevitably die.
Appearently he was also mad when the Senate DEMANDED he wear underwear under his robes.