Frankenvac 2.0
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2020
- This is the 2nd version of my self built shop vacuum. The first version worked by putting a vacuum blower on top of a Mini cyclone separator. This worked well but it had a few things that I wanted to improve. One thing I wanted was an easier way to empty the dust when the dust bin was full. In the new version, I made a box under the separator that the dust will fall into. On the side of this box is a door that I can use to suck out all of the dust with my shop’s main vacuum system. The other big improvement that I made was to put everything on the front of a main housing of the vacuum so the switch, the exhaust, and the handle are all on that front side. This allows the vacuum to fit within my storage system at the south end of the shop so the vacuum has a place to go when not in used. I also built this new version out of nice Baltic Birch and tried to clean up the design so that the whole system didn't look so hacked together.
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14:35 - I was an electrician and I laughed at your comment "if it doesn't catch on fire...."
The technical term in the trade is the "smoke test". :)
It's little known among laymen that all electrics and electronics actually run on smoke, that's why they stop working when you let the smoke out. Electron theory is just a clever ruse.
Release the magic smoke. But no worries, IBM has you covered with their "Magic Smoke Refill" bottle. :)
@@gasfiltered and here I thought electronics run on angry pixies, and the smoke was from when they got loose.
Frank - I've been a fan from the start and I have to say: this latest video takes your filmmaking to another level. The subtle motor controlled camera moves and the side-swipe closeup glam shots of the drill bits were very professional touches. Well done!
Agree 100%. I've been having my aspiring film maker son watch Frank (and Grind hard Plumbing) as a high level example of CZcams innovation.
totally agree! binged all of frank's videos this lockdown and the quality just gets better and better!
Frank. I am so envious of your beautiful little shop. It is my dream to have something like that!!! Thank you for the content!
Looking at my store bought shop vac thinking I am such a piker. Thanks for the inspiration Frank
you should have a filterbox, like a shopvac, in between the cyclone and motor, so both the exhaust and the motor inlet would stay free of dust.
Agreed, I think this is ultimately the best solution. You wouldnt need an outlet filter, and you would be solving the problem of getting strands stuck in the actual blower. Put a simple filter box in between that accepts 10x10 home HVAC filter on a slide. You should be able to retro that into this.
Kudos to you Frank! You don't spend much time talking to the camera. Excellent!
I think you may need to trim a bit of the 4 x 4 for the front wheels. It seems to be blocking the bottom drawers on either side of the vacuum. Great build as always! :)
I think get rid of that monster block holding the wheels. Something more engineered to match the rest of the work would be appropriate! Otherwise good design!
@@Airn5475 was thinking the same. it sticks out like crazy. why not just use a 4x1 or even 2x 1/2
I was a child of the late 70s and early eighties arcade scene, so I enjoyed the Space Invader sound bytes throughout the vid. Nice touch.
Frank after meticulously engineering a custom vacuum and building multiple versions to improve performance and utility: "I'm gonna sorta be lazy."
lol Nope. Not buying it.
You decided that it would work just as well, so didn't force in unneeded work.
Thank you for continuing to make such fun/inspiring content!
Wow, you used a hand saw! I didn't even know you owned one! I couldn't build something like this but it is always fun to watch you design and make stuff! Great job.
I love that you're showing which bits you use for cutting each thing on the CNC, thank you!
Whatever your method is to show the modeled project and finished product through each other is GENIUS!!! Always looks amazing. Having minor modeling experience and no film/video i cannot wrap my head around the steps it would take. Love the videos and projects, Always time well spent watching all that you come up with!!!
Edit: Not to mention the time you dedicate to making great quality videos with the stop motion and every other visual aspect.
My arcade collector brain saw the upright arcade cabinet in your design immediately. Space Invaders effects were much appreciated. You should do your own take on a MAME arcade cabinet some day!
I love watching you do your thing! I really enjoy the details put in, even the ones you add later on. Looks great man!!
Terrific build Frank! Next up, version 3. Looking forward to that one.....👍👍😉😉
This is nothing short of brilliant. Terrific craftsmanship combined with technology. Kudos.
The quality of your videos are world class. Super slick editing and graphics, subtle is nice.
Always educational and inspiring.
Well done.
I also wanna point out how cool you make your projects look. It’s so important for the feel of your shop to make it a happy place to work in my friend you have a happy place to work!!!
I think on the exhaust port, you might find a belt sander bag that could be modified to work there and be easily cleanable. good luck and keep up the good work. Really enjoy you vids!
I was thinking of a old sock because you always have a single lonely one laying around since its mate was donated to the dryer sock god and you can't get rid of the one left behind, but your suggestion is a lot better
A round HEPA dome filter of a similar circumference would be great for air quality/invisible ultrafine particles. And it doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to affix with some plumbing hardware of some sort.
I have used large riding lawn mower intake filters on my shop vac exhaust for years while doing drywall. You can get canister ones at HD/Blowes about the size of a large beer can that pop right over 2" PVC
Maybe you could use one of the small Donaldson canister filters that the John Deere Gators use
@@BrandonBlakeslee I wonder if those filters that are used inside one of those 6 gallon shop vac's could be used for filtering it. It would need a plug on the end, but otherwise if it works inside a shop vac, maybe it would work that way too.
I love your builds Frank. 👍
Frank as always awesome project. I love your build videos, your build style, and most of all your video editing style.
Been waiting for this one. Love your content Frank!!
Great build! Production values are EXCELLENT. [for example, the close-ups of the router bits--well done, and adds clarification. Also, the superimposed line drawings on the plywood sheet, before the CNC gets to work].
Hello Mr frank it’s been long time am waiting for your video 🙂 thank you so much for everything,,, now let go grab myself a cup of coffee ☕️ and enjoy your video 👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏
I love this, Frank! I've been evolving a version similar to this for a few years, but yours looks fantastic with the CNC parts!
A standard shop vac filter works great, has lots of effective surface area and can be removed and cleaned.
They make a muffler for shop vacs. It helps to dampen the sound a little as well as catch some dust. They are cheap, very effective, and easy to clean/reuse. I don’t know exactly how you’d attach it to the new exhaust, but I imagine it would be easy enough.
Best of luck! I love following your channel!
Hello Frank. Thank you for another great video. Your video is always special, as to sound and the way you film, and clip it together. Thank you. And the build you make is always easy to understand, even if it can be a great task to build them. (As the 1 floor with the Tv room )Best wishes from Jan in Norway. Wish you and your family a nice summer
Another awesome build! Thanks for sharing it...
Stick an old sock on the exhaust. That’s what’s on my shop vac. Lol.
Put another 90 on there and point it up, then draw a face on the sock. Then you could have a dancing filter dude on the vac.
Heck! You could even go with a NEW sock! 12 pairs for $5 at Walmart
@@barry99705 wacky waving inflatable arm flaling tube man
I'd use a stocking. (a nylon)
that was my first idea too
*Frank Howarth on Saturday makes my whole weekend!*
Frank- I just LOVE watching you work.... I have NO idea about the ins and outs of any of what you talk about 🤪 but, DARN, it’s so entertaining!!!!!
If you had one of those old metal coffee filters it could be retro fitted and look pretty tidy, but I also like the dancing sock idea. Great build (as usual). I need to re-design my dust cart with a better switch like yours. Right now I have to bend over to the back of the cart and reach in to turn on off at the top of the shop vac, which is really cumbersome. I continue to be amazed at the functionality of the CNC. I just don't have room for one. Maybe in my new shop I'll have room.
Nice job Frank! Thanks for sharing the video with us!💖👍👌😎JP
Awesome work Frank! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
You can get a muffler/diffuser at Depot. Love your vids. My only downside is that your voice is soft & soothing. If I'm at all tired, you will knock me right out! That being said, I'll take it over some of these screaming youngsters who don't know how to plan any day of the week. Parking it by the cleat wall is smart.
Always a pleasure when you video's arrive.
Cool project ! I love to see the iterative process.
For a filter on that exhaust, I'd hose-clamp a tube sock over it and make sure to clean it or change it whenever I cleaned out the box. This is a really cool build, Frank! Great work
That was such an amazing take talking to the camera, Frank, good work!
Frank! You really should consider vacuum hold down for your cnc table. It was a game changer for me. I have a 4x8 shopbot at home and I use a Festool ct26 for hold down. When I need some more power for a full sheet I add a fein turbo 2 to boost the vacuum. You don’t need a huge, expensive centrifugal blower to make it work for the sort of work you do if you use zones. You will want to use an onion skin technique instead of tabs or “bridges”.
You should run a ground wire to the metal plate of the switch too, that way, if the live (or hot) wire comes loose or rubs through and touches the metal plate, you won't get a shock. Not sure if it's standard in the US, but in the UK, all metal switch plates like that have screws for the ground to connect to.
I believe in the U.S. a metal switch plate would only be mounted on a metal Jbox, and of course that metal JBox would be grounded. I've never seen a switch plate with its own ground lug. I think the rule of thumb is plastic to plastic, metal to metal.
@@MorseB yes actually, you're quite right, it's the same here, ground lug on the back box, not the plate, so the screws take the ground to the plate - it's been a while since I've done electrical installs!
@@minimanjos84 If the switch is properly grounded (meaning, the ground wire is attached to the green screw of the switch), but it is mounted in a plastic box, and a metal switch cover is used, then the metal switch cover is still grounded through the switch plate screws via the metal chassis of the switch. Technically, Frank should connect the ground wire to BOTH the motor and the switch ground screw.
@@PhilipJongejan Yes, I don't know if the switch had a ground terminal, if not, the easiest way would just be to use a metal old work box that you could ground the box, which would in turn ground the plate, as you said. If there's going to be a fault the metal switch is the thing you're going to touch so it's arguably more important than grounding the motor.
@@jeremyspecce That's true - it's not a conventional looking switch.
Glad you're back to enginerding stuffs.
A little trick to make the vacuum scream a little less... Line the inside of the blower housing with eggcrate foam rubber. Similarly, build a little elongated "doghouse" enclosure over the top fan exit, open at one end, and also lined with eggcrate foam, to act as a sound labyrinth. You'll make the vacuum at least 10 dB quieter.
Heyo, Frank! Love the audio cues and effects you've been playin' with! Fantastic!
You are crazy Frank, this confirms it! Great video, thank you!
You make a dust collector that needs a dust collector to empty it
Lol
Nice work
Hat I’ve always used on my shop vac exhaust for a filter is a cotton tube sock. There’s lots of filter area inside, it hangs out of the way when not in use, it won’t hurt anything if you run into it when it’s in use, it’s washable or cheaply replaceable, or you can just steal one from the dresser.
And now add a simple 5v relay for mains voltage and a 5v welding torch switch on the end of the vacuum hose.
Believe me, best modification I ever did to my overhead workstation vacuum, just grab the hose and press the switch to vacuum up some stuff and just let it go once you're done.
cool idea! do you have the hose more or less permanently attached or do you have plug at the other end of the hose? Also, i guess you need some kind of 5V power supply for the relay? (USB?)
@@jeremyspecce Currently I have it permanently attached with some hot glue and duct tape, but it would be no big thing to just add a JST connector. Might do that in the future. Yes, a 2,99€ USB charger supplies the voltage for the relay. Pretty much made it out of scrap I had :D
You are simply amazing. Thanks for the video.
Very cool effect in the beginning sir, I almost wasn't sure I had seen it!
I just want to make it public Frank I can’t hold it back anymore........ I love you always have always will!!
Nice build Frank. I was thinking it the whole way through, but you mentioned it at the end: Simply repurpose the dust bag from a miter saw, sander, etc., by fastening it the exhaust port either with the integral clamp, or with a hose clamp.
You have long been my favorite CZcamsr. Your videos have a Bob Ross and Mr. Rogers sort of calm. And you are so creative! This video just rocked. The first thing I thought when I saw your thumbnail was that you were finally making an arcade machine so I love that you threw Galaxian (great game!) sound effects in the video. Man, I really want to make an arcade with you!
Great build, thanks for sharing your design process. The overall shape reminds me of an arcade cabinet 😄
Loving the use of the CNC gantry to get dolly shots :)
When i grow up i want to have a shop like yours :)
great job; great filming!
You've inspired me to build a hydrovac bucket from 3 of those vacs and a 55 gallon drum to suck dirt and rock outta the ground to set fence post holes. There are so many roots digging is impossible by hand. There is more roots than dirt.
The set up cost $300 for the vacs and the rest was around a hundred. It works awesome. I used a plastic drum and one vac at first but it collapsed the 55 gallon drum soooooo I then got a metal drum and figured I needed two more vacs.
It works so awesome. So so awesome. I made a CZcams video but that video sucks so it's not public yet. I'll reshoot it soon. I'm very excited about starting my CZcams channel with a cool project.
It would be prudent to run a ground wire to the metal on that switch too. Otherwise the switch could become energized and rather than just tripping the breaker, you could become a path to ground.
As an OCD person I need to see what's inside each drawer. Please make my dream come true!!! 😂😂😂
PVC parts could make a pretty neat filter for the exhaust. I'm thinking an adapter that press-fits over the end of the exhaust, then gets permanently glued to an off-center hole cut in the back of a 4" cap. The hole would be off-center, oriented at the 'top' of the cap as it hangs off the exhaust, so that bits of debris would fall down into the lower space, from the inside of the filter medium when the vacuum's off, able to be dumped when pulling the cap off for cleaning. The opening of the cap would have the filter medium stretched across it. Perhaps the wife could sew a round piece of cheesecloth into a cup shape with a drawstring channel around the edge, then tie the drawstring tight when installed. To keep the filter medium from blowing off the cap, cut a groove around the outside of the cap's edge for the drawstring to grab onto.
great video as always thanks Frank.
Frank, Thanks, I really liked your rebuild video. It is really great that you include your thought process in the dialogue. You won’t like my filter recommendation, because it would mean another rebuild where the filter would live on the suction side of the blower. The cyclone probably removes well over 95% of the dust but the dust it doesn’t remove is the ultra fine particle size stuff that is really bad on the lungs, so you need a filter that will capture the ultra fine dust. This would also keep all that dust out of your blower innards.
A pair of my wife's panty hose worked to start to get the fine dust. Then I found a filter from a shop vac that fit the exhaust OD. That works great and catches ALL the fine dust. Blowing it out with compressed air once a month keeps it pretty clean.
That's pretty awesome Frank... seems to me the only thing it lacks is the ability ro make coffee. But then again it's nor a coffee maker... it's a shop vac! Way Cool👍
Consider adding a port to hook your dust hose up to empty. You can cap it until you need to dump it. I built one like this for my planet which blew the chips out into a big box under it. I could hook the dust hose up to the box to empty it when needed. I used it in my driveway and couldn’t have it hooked to the dust system while it was out there.
Well thought out.Better than store bought.
Nice job again!
The name alone is amazing!
I miss your videos!
greetings from Egypt
Good to see I’m not the only one to use their big cyclone to empty the shop vac. I thought I was lazy, but now I know better!
I always enjoy a dust collector build.
Those filter bags found on hand held belt sanders could work on the exhaust port.
Great build as always, Frank~! I've been looking at so many projects like this to house my shop vac & dust deputy. Mine are side-by-side on a flat furniture dolly, so the footprint is way too big.
Thanks for the design inspiration~!
Keep up the great work.
The filter on the exhaust can be a flour sack held on with an elastic band or a hose clamp. You may want a strainer on the inside of the cyclone to catch clogging strands and chips before they find the impeller . I suggest a cone shape that fits into the top of the cyclone that is made of a cage of wire or slats of wood with plenty of gap that a course cloth or open celled foam could be fit over. Nice design for a shop vacuum. Also have you considered running the exaust out at the top? On the top you would have room to drape a large flour sack over a box of slats.
Great project and video. I think a simple felt bag is all you need to catch the fine dust in the exhaust.
Recommend switching to a metal box for the switch and grounding the box, so that metal front plate is also grounded. This will protect you if the switch ever develops a fault or the front plate is otherwise connected to hot. Also you could shave a bit off either end of the 4x4 wheel support on the front so you can still open your drawers while it's stowed.
Or at least add a ground wire to the metal plate. Either a large ring crimp around the switch bushing or drill a hole in the plate and add a screw/nut with a smaller ring crimp.
Hi Frank,
If that dust box window is plexiglass (as opposed to polycarbonate), those countersinks are going to craze and crack in time. The wedging action of the screw head will cause this.
Suggestion: use a finishing washer instead, so that the plastic doesn't experience the wedging action.
Delightful over-engineering 😉👏🏻
I'd replace the switch with a regular household wall switch. That way you can also get a face plate to cover the box. Also, switches are typically 'on' in the up position. Love your work. thanks
Frank was playing too much Space Invaders and admitted that he made some mistakes.. LOL
seriously! that was a LOT of mistakes for Frank!
I love the arcade cabinet vibes that this vacuum gives off (:
I use a bunch of old socks, without holes of course. Works really well for what I need.
A small filter bag for an aquarium pump system should work really well. You'd probably be able to get something in exactly the right size and they should be reasonably easy to source from just about any decent pet shop.
Something like this, www.amazon.com/Alegi-Filter-Aquarium-Reusable-Drawstring/dp/B083Q4R7KB
Frank, Rigid makes a filter/muffler for their shop vacs that I’ve used to great success. It’s not a HEPA filter, just a simple sponge type of filter, but it should fit in the space you have.
Yes, this is a good cheap answer. Also quiets it a little (very little). I think they are about $12.
Nice video, Frank! One possible suggestion would be to make a blast gate style contraption to hold a homemade filter for the exhaust pipe. I think taking a cheap furnace filter & using the filter material & stretching it over a small frame to insert into the “blast gate” would protect your blower... at least better than it is without.
Nice "Space Invaders" game cabinet--checks notes--I mean cyclone vacuum cabinet.
Great build! But Frank, enough useful stuff. We need one of your bowls!
Panty hose makes a good exit filter
Second
yeah this seems like the best/easiest/cheapest way to go
Might also be a good solution for a blower filter on the inside....
As Bart Simpson said once, “This sucks and blows at the same time”.
Was just about to type the same!
Hey Frank, awesome build, checkout motorcycle carburetor pod air filters for the exhaust. Works great, looks bad ass and fairly small. You can even put a small hepa filter inside them for extra air scrubbing
Steel wool filter medium, a nice aerated version that will filter but not baffle your exhaust. Make a little pop-off housing for the exhaust end and you'd be able to cut dozens of filter refils for it for a couple of bucks!
Looks like it would make a nice arcade cabinet too!
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I come for the builds & Franks' laugh 💙
Nicely done. I need you to come to my shop!
Great build Frank. A sports automotive air filter should fit that exhaust. Unifilter make custom washable filters in Australia.
I appreciated the door and opening comment, you'd cut them the same size. I just installed some CRL aluminum window frames and I gave myself an 8th total around the window frame going into metal framing.that ends up a 16th gap on each side. Anyone that's worked with metal framing knows it's not true to those tolerances. Do what you did by mistake, I often do on purpose. That's why I tend to install stuff with a rubber hammer.
I must have watched the intro five times now... *plop* hi! - Awesome and funny! :D
For cutting plastic on the CNC use an O flute bit. It's rake is different than for wood. It will eject chips to remove the heat better than that single flute down shear you used. For a good clean edge after you cut it do another single pass .002 and it will give you a finished edge.
Dear Frank, Love your stuff all the way from Sweden. I have a humble suggestion that some other CZcamsrs do. They show the viewer what their project cost to create. Living in Sweden I find it extra interesting to see what plywood and a vac etc cost in the US. In Sweden I have never come a cross that thick plywood you use. I have also heard that the grove blade is illegal in the EU. It is not on the market in Sweden. Keep up the good work.
Home Depot sells a little sound dampener for shop vacs that would probably also reduce some fine particle release on the exhaust. It just plugs into the exhaust. Super cheap and makes things a bit quieter!
Think you're talking about this guy. That was my thought, as well. www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-2-1-2-in-Diffuser-Accessory-for-RIDGID-Wet-Dry-Shop-Vacuums-VT2525/100037235