Shop Work: Improving Dust Collection
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I recently bought a new miter saw (Bosch Axial Glide) and have been a little disappointed with the dust collection that it had. It was still vastly superior to the stock dust collection I've experienced on other saws, but I guess I was just hoping for more. I decided to perform an experiment and compare 3 common solutions to the problem followed up with my own custom designed dust shroud. In this video you get to see just how effective each solution is at capturing dust as well as whether or not my creation is any better. It's a fun little experiment that has some surprising results!
A refreshingly nice video with humor and excellent videography!
Thank you. :)
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Exactly, just discovered thus channel today, quite humorous yet tons of really good stuff
Loved it - "instantly make my mistakes permanent" great 🤣🤣🤣
Yes!! lol
Gluing it to the saw was inspired. Thanks for the outtakes and the embedded humour and the final result. Great stuff.
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Dude, this is a great solution for 90 degrees! Well done!
Thanks Brad! 😀
@@FishersShop what about angles?
@@gurshaanbasra3639 watch the video
@@christianscustoms6429 sorry I don't know why I ever wrote the comment
It’s 9:40pm on Saturday night. I’m watching a guy weigh sawdust on CZcams.
The realization just hit me! ;)
Are you his neighbor? Did he bring back your scale?
@@impactajuvenile 🤣🤣🤣
Dude! Me too!
What else can you do during quarantine? I've watched the entire Big Bang Theory series 10 times.
"i borrowed a scale from my neighbours meth lab" literally dying! i breathed in a mouthfull of pepsi xD
...I spewed my Coors light across the table.
At least you only " breathed in your Pepsi", instead of having "snorted your Coke".
love it!
he clearly didn't teach you about grams. . . js and for me, it was the end of my coffee, stuff is difficult to get off the keyboard. . .
I spewed coffee on my computer screen and the glasses I was wearing!
Just watched this video again. I have to say, my wife and I both really enjoy your sense of humor! It’s good to get reminded every so often that we need to keep things in perspective.
For my part, I’m still trying to get organized, the workshop was too small, moved into the garage and it is currently overflowing with too much “stuff”, tools, stands, cabinets, benches, tables, etc. And of course, trying to get better dust collection, more wood storage, properly aligned tools that will cut square, or straight. I know, don’t blame the tool. But seriously, some tools are ridiculously difficult to align. And they refuse to stay aligned.
Ah well, as the saying goes, it keeps me off the street corner. Perspective! We have to be able to laugh at ourselves. When we lose that, we’re in serious trouble.
God bless, take of yourselves, stay safe!
Thanks, Joe! Glad you're liking the vids
Laughed many times. I have that saw and it is horrible with dust. I’ve watched a million of these as well as hacked up and made three ducted systems now. Only thing I can see that will increase your percentage more is to somehow make that hard turn into something softer. Like a rounded turn. Stumpy nubs found that those square surfaces kill efficiency and I think even on the scale of your box making it just a little more organic inside will yield even better results. I unfortunately work as a finish carpenter, flooring installer, gate/fencing carpenter, and just about whatever my wife can come up with on the weekends. Even though I have a dewalt compound (non slider) as my job site saw, I’m renovating both of the units of our duplex so my Bosch has now turned into my lungs’ worst enemy! Thanks for the vid and keep up the wit; I love it!
I like your videos a lot. I know this is an old one. I almost gave up on your experiment until the very end when you found the ratio between the dust and whole wood segment. Science!
3:50 “Using a square I can hold things at 90° and then I hit it with some activator to instantly make all my mistakes permanent”
5:30 “. . . and then proceeded to get glue all over my table saw”
6:18 “ . . . and then after several years of filing I was able to turn that circle into an oval“
Lol 😂
Man I've seen some huge dust collection cabinets that almost fully enclose the back half of the saw. Really only good for a permanent mount and a non portable saw. In any case, the difference in massive amounts of material and time would only serve to close that 4% gap in collection. Your little doodad takes the cake. Simple, cheap, removable, and it allows the saw to remain portable. Nicely finnessed solution buddy. Good on Ya!
You got it exactly Stephan! Thanks!
Most of my cuts are also at 90 degrees. The problem is when I get in a hurry, I sacrifice improvements I've made for the sake of time. That's the problem I have with most solutions like this... I'd get in a hurry and suddenly have to cut angles, and I'd right through it. But being able to remove it that quickly? PERFECT. You rock. I'm going to do this for my Hitachi... Probably with some modifications to both the box and the saw. Thanks. If only more social media was about exchanging ideas instead of exchanging scantily clad selfies. I view those people as extras in this movie we call life. Extras don't have enough talent to have an important part. They're not worth much. But if they weren't there taking up that space, it'd probably be weird.
As a retired mechanical tech, I love the weighing test. Best way to evaluate your different configurations.
A woodworker with a sense of humour doing a scientific project. Well done mate. Now I know I'm not alone....
My thoughts too John, there are some more woodwork and tool nerds!
Just came across this video, great solution without over-engineering the whole thing. Really enjoyed using compressed air to blow dust all over the shop to get ready for testing dust collection ideas. Whoever said irony was dead?!
Yeah, haha
Love the out takes at the end, thought I was looking in a mirror!
Your videos, your craftsmanship, and your sense of humor are terrific!
Thanks so much. :)
While watching, I was like, "He's lucky he isn't gluing that box to the table of the mitre saw." And then came the out-takes! 😂
I thought, "I'd have glued it to the saw if I tried that." Glad I'm not alone
Fantastic idea that works brilliantly !!! Thanks for taking the time to design this. I have been looking for a way of controlling the dust extraction from my Revolution rage-s 255 mitre saw and with your idea i tweaked it to fit and the results are brilliant. Thank you
Glad I could help!
Drew is the best at humor AND good advice. Other channels you only get one or the other, never both.
Loved the last outtake. Watching you using the CA glue throughout this video I kept thinking "What skill this man has because I would have surely glued pieces to my saw doing it that way". Haha, I was right!!!!
Your videos are always educational, enjoyable and entertaining. I can see myself in all of your "out takes!" Thanks for all you do for all of us!
Thanks, Frank!
Perfect mix of solid research, great low-key sense of humor, and thorough expertise. I didn't use a shop vac with my mitre saw when I used in my living room. You will understand I spent several hours more cleaning than doing the actual cuts haha
Hah, I'd imagine so!
Sadly refreshing that other people are guilty of serious self ridicule when they make mistakes. Very good vid!
I love the out takes. It’s so “true to life!”
LOL! "Instantly male all my mistakespermanent"!!! I enjoy your projects and your dry sense of humor.
Hehe, thanks Kevin
I like his "borrowed the neighbors scale from their meth lab" bit
LOVE your straight faced humor and how you emphasize your mistakes!
Reminds us all that we're not the only ones who have an oops moment......
Oh yea, lotta good info too, thanks!
has to be one of the most entertaining wood channels on YT. Giving Shaun Boyd a run for his money - bravo!
"instantly make all my mistakes permanent"... that and the Turretts episode at the end reveals a kindred spirit. New Sub!
Exactly my problem. Same saw, sam dust problem. Thx for the idea 👍🏻
making me lmao like a baby after 76 years makes my woodworking go much much smoother, thanks for sharing
LOL - such a smooth presentation...Then there's that bit at the end that reminds me more of what I sound like during my least proud moments. Cool experiment. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely - perfect combination of information and (really clever) entertaining dialog. Well done!
OMG thanks for bloopers. As soon as I saw "glued it to the saw" I LOL pretty hard. Thanks for sharing your pain.
As somebody who had been testing a lot of solutions, I'd love to see your take on bandsaw dust collection. They may be more unruly than miters.
You have one of the most relaxing voices on CZcams. Love your videos! Keep up the good work
Thanks!
The out takes were the best. Just proves you're a good person able to laugh at yourself. That's real world . Good job on the dust collector.
Thanks, Tex
I really enjoy the bloopers...we all make them, and they all sound the same! :)
Woodworking, science, math, and humor!?! Great video, keep it up.
9:14 Not only did you vastly improve the efficiency of the dust collection, you managed to transform the saw into a left AND right handed machine. Bravo Drew!
While I'm sure I'll never get around to actually building one of these ingenious gadgets for myself, I've re-watched the video at least a dozen times just for the laughs! Love your sense of humor!!!
Great idea and solid outcome. Thank You for the videos and your commentary is awesome.
Love the build, love the humor, love the outtakes. Perfect :)
I use my table saw as a work station all the time. I know some people use newspaper or craft paper to help protect it from glue and such but I use a large piece of heavy vinyl I got at the fabric department in Walmart. For what it is, I don't think it can be beat. It's water proof and resistant to most finishes and solvents I use. Wood glue doesn't even stick to it all that well so it can be peeled off after it dries. I've had it for more than ten years and it was worth every penny.
Nice tip
*Bandsaws tension tip* : I have a small strip of card with "Tension!" Written on it, and a small magnet glued to the reverse. When I release the tension of the blade I pop this reminder on the blade; now I never forget to tension. When in use you can stick your reminder to the tensioner handle for safe keeping - HTH
Love the outtakes. It’s like you’re channeling me.
I came here for the woodworking, and I am staying for the jokes. Love your sense of humor. 👍😜
I really enjoyed the outtakes at the end. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who makes silly mistakes! Great video and dust collector. Thanks.
Thanks for watching
Good job and video. No stupid music. I like your good sense of humor during the video. The out-take mistakes ---- been there and probably done them one time or another (more than once), especially not turning on my dust collector. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I just upgraded to the same model Bosch a few months ago. Love it and I might try your dust boot to see if I can screw it up more than I have with my failed attempts at different ones.👍🏼
Great vids. Love the outtakes. Glad to see others have some of my days
BEST woodworking video I have ever seen! The humor and outtakes are priceless!
Hey Drew, the comments section is working for me again! Based on your work with this, I made something sorta similar for my miter saw and learned a couple of things...one... this works! Two... a shop vac hooked up to 2.5 inch dust hose has enough power to pull 6 feet of vacuum cleaner hose into it! I had a heck of a time getting it back out! Thanks for what you do and the humor you do it with.
Haha, nice! :)
This is the best video about dust collection ever!
I love your videos, you are naturally funny but approach things in a sensible way, the actual objective method used is really good especially as you finish with a percentage value of the actual timber removed by the cut. The out takes are brilliant and we will all recognise ourselves in them!
Thanks, Paul! Glad you liked it!
Love the bloopers the end. Wish more people showed them.
I love the way you show the mishaps at the end. This proves you are brave and human . Thank you from John.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the excellent explanation and the outtakes! They show you make the same dumb mistakes as the rest of us.
Great work, smart thinking. Best idea I've seen space wise, I like it forsure...
Great idea and I love your "over-thinking" every detail. The honesty of the outtakes is probably my favorite part as they reflect the everyday realities of life in the shop!
Oh man, glad I'm not alone!😧 No joke.
I've literally gotten an hour & a half into a project. Only to realize...I've just spent ALL that time making: the stand, the jig, or the made-up contraption (of which was only supposed to take 10 mins. to build)...
But was ONLY intended to make the ORIGINAL job easier!! 😧
Seriously tho... I've got issues.🙄 Lmao
My friend, you have great talent for both woodworking and humor. Very gifted. Please consider writing as another Avenue to contribute, if you haven’t done so. The M&M analogy is a great one....Best to you
Thanks! :)
Nice job! Loved the bloopers - I totally would have glued it to my saw too!!
“I quickly hit it with some CA activator to instantly make my mistakes permanent.” LOL. Hilarious! Love it!
I appreciate your outtakes following the videos. It relieves the pressure on myself to be perfect, knowing the master makes occasional errors as well. You do great work! Take care.
Thanks a bunch!
I usually don’t worry too much about dust collection. Since I just purchased the same saw last week, I thought I would check out your vid. You had me laughing out loud. Especially with your outtakes. Too funny!
I love my bag. It lets me have the other 33% to stand on comfortably all day and as an atmospheric woodshop vignette it hides a lot more than my mistakes.
I don't have a mitre saw, but I stayed for the outtakes... ;-) 🇬🇧
I love watching "myself" at the end. Wow, I'm not the only one....... Thanks for the good video. I'll try mine tomorrow.
Awesome, have fun!
Never heard or seen your Channel before, but after watching just 1 video on your methodology for how to improve dust collection, I was hooked. You got yourself a new subscriber. Bravo!
Your outtakes sound like they were recorded in my shop!
The outtakes are priceless. They sound like me when I don't pay attention. 😂
Hey Drew, thank you for sharing your projects through video. I am in the process of re-watching them again. You and others have Inspired me to build a woodworking shop.
I’ve been in construction 45 years , The long hours, heavy lifting and cold winters have exacted their pound of flesh. Some of my new home projects have taken me over a year to complete. So if I can replicate your cutting board weave in six months I will have done well.
By Gods grace I have never been seriously hurt, only my pride. Many times I have availed myself of idiot, moron, stupido, etc. I will typically blame the guy who did not show up for work that day but I don’t think anyone is buying it. They know me too well by now.
I truly appreciate your exhibiting your failures and foibles for all to see. It keeps us humble I suppose.
I plan to have my shop done next year and look forward to purchasing plans and shopping your Amazon page. Thanks , Ken.
BTW, the 296 dislikes I’m sure were the dust bag salesmen.
As Yoda would say “stepping on toes you are”
I look forward to your future projects. Psalm 90:17.
Thanks so much Ken! You're going to have so much fun outfitting your shop!
Very good results and quite enlightening.
Suggestion for remedy the first outtake: tie a knot in the end of your power cord then put the knot/loop over the quick-release for the tension. When you go to plug the saw in, tension the blade take the cord off the lever, plug it in and get to work. When done unplug it, put the knot/loop on the tension lever, release the tension and get a beverage to celebrate such a clever idea ;)
I should've watch this just a bit earlier, cuz I sent my entire day making my stupid version of dust collect box which seems to not working at all. And I have to say that the mathmatical approach that you have done is by far the most impressive(persuasive) on woodworking video. Amazing job man.
Thanks a bunch! Glad you liked it
Almost spit my drink everywhere when he said "borrowed it from my neighbor's Meth lab" lol!
OMG thank you for the out-takes at the end of the video. Gluing the attachment to your miter saw made my day. Its good to know that I am not the only one whose projects don't always go smoothly. Cheers ! :)
This is how instructional videos should be done. Humor, knowledge, and the results of what your trying to accomplish.. great job and I'll be using your idea for dust collection.
I can't do the stuff that you do but it is always interesting and cool to watch!
This guys commentary is hilarious! I have this saw I think I will make one of these too 😀
Your out takes increased my self-esteem 100%. Thanks for being human. Good job.
Thanks for including the outtakes! Makes me feel far less silly for all the gaffs I make during any build or project.
Honestly, I wasn't particularly excited about the topic, but your interesting and entertaining approach kept me watching to the very end. Great job - thanks for taking the time to make quality content.
thank you for this. Mine has to be the dustiest tool in my garage
That was awesome. I’ve been planning a huge dust shroud for ages. Going to take my plans in a whole new direction. Love your sense of humor. I stopped the video three times to tell my husband what you said.
A very good solution. I have been working with dust exstraction proffesionally, and I guest that the increase is mainly fine dust. The dust that is irritating and very dangerous. Well done and thank you for sharing. Lars Rosenquist, Sweden
I finally made this! I didn't go any tests beforehand but I don't think my default dust bag is anywhere close to 77% efficiency. It's really awful. The shroud seems to control at least 80%, and there are some small gaps I need to fill that I'm sure will make it even better. Overall EXTREMELY happy how this has turned out.
Glad it worked out for ya, Adam!
I have the exact same saw and this collection issue has been driving me insane for years. I now have a solution! Thank you so much for allowing us to pick your brain, subbed for more videos about your neighbors meth lab!
I got one of these saws(used) over the weekend. Once I repair the tilt lever your dust collection will be my first modification to it. Thank you for your videos. Very informative and entertaining.
Man, what a great video.
Thanks for the outtakes. It's seldom that we get to see that side of making, so it can be frustrating when you're just starting out on your journey that you can't replicate the flawlessness of a video.
Your funny, think I will try that with my saw since I have the same one. Keep up the funny informative videos. Thanks.
You nerded out on this video.
I watched the whole thing.
I appreciate the analysis and the humor. Thanks!
Dude. Funny!
And instructive. I think you just Vandaled Mathias.
This looks great (and saved to my "shop" playlist), but there's one solution you didn't test, and that is the "little bandshell" completely surrounding the saw. Those might work better with a large volume dust collector, so maybe the ultimate solution is to have both (considering diminishing returns, etc., etc., etc.)
Even better.
Your solution pollutes your surroundings with that 4% loss, the duct tape pimped stock solution is the next best and looses 8%. You reduced your air dirt by 50 percent, or 66 if compared to the plain stock version. That does not need some adding up over time. it improves the situation instantly.
Thanks for the nicely made production.
Now one of my favorite CZcams videos 😂
The narration of you videos are just as enjoyable as the video itself, they have a
Winnie the Pooh feel to them. Haha.
Keep up the great work!!
That's Winnie the Drew to you!
They do! Never thought about that. "Oh bother!" ha ha
I was surprised that the standard bag everyone throws out is actually 77% effective to begin with.
Trust me it's only that effective when it's empty, as it fills the percentages go way down but you're right "how do they get the caramel in the chocolate bar?"🤔
Yes it does but it also then takes up more real estate on the bench it is mounted to. When I built my cut bench for the slider, vacum sucks from the bottom and I made it 12ft to the left of the blade and 4 ft to the right and tall enough to roll my workbench/assembly table underneath out of the way when I need room for finishing. The space between the wall and the mitersaw fence is perfect for 12x18 storage boxes for screws and hardware items and I added 2 4ft x 9" lids with piano hinges for a 4.5 inch tall x 20 inch deep storage area under the trays. By setting it up this way I gained alot of storage in the 4 drawers I have under my portable workbench.
On the Ryobi 12" sliding mitre saw, it's about -20% effective.
@@InstinctBassin Garry not Linda. Any piece of Ryobi stuff is only 20% effective! I bought one and after 2 days of trying to get it to cut the last 1/4" of a board without actually filing off the stop or drilling new mounting holes for the fence and get some kind of efficiency out of the chip collection chute I took it back. Not my first piece of poorly made Ryobi equipment but definitely my last.
@@InstinctBassin -20% lol
Enjoyed the presentation. Showed several solutions and how they stacked up against one another without becoming rocket science. LOVED the humor!!
Thanks for the out takes - shows me what to watch out for.
"I instantly make all my mistakes permanent." I could not stop laughing 🤣😂
I was cracking up at that too.