11 common workshop dust collection mistakes

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  • @StumpyNubs
    @StumpyNubs  Před 3 lety +441

    IMPORTANT: In the video I show an image of a workshop with an excessively long length of flex hose. I found the image on Google and thought it was a humorous example of a big piece of hose. I neglected to provide context for the image. The gentleman in the photo was attaching that hose to a much more powerful system than is found in most small workshops. He could afford to lose some airflow from the long flex hose, and it works well for him. By not providing that context I made it appear that HE was making a mistake rather than my intended point, which is that most OTHER folks should not do that with their single-stage systems. I am sorry I didn't make that clear, which is why I have removed the image from the video thumbnail and I am pinning this comment to the top so everyone can see it.

    • @oblio9147
      @oblio9147 Před 3 lety +6

      What was the name of the science website you mentioned at the end? I couldn't quite hear it.

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Před 3 lety +17

      @@oblio9147 billpentz.com

    • @oblio9147
      @oblio9147 Před 3 lety +1

      @@StumpyNubs Thanks! I'm putting together a small shop with dust collection next week so very timely episode.

    • @imaginarypoint
      @imaginarypoint Před 3 lety +2

      Code is only for minor products. Not the for real deal. Was hoping to get a CV1800 :(

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Před 3 lety +1

      I just tried it. It took $88 off.

  • @wolflahti412
    @wolflahti412 Před 3 lety +1157

    The most-effective dust collector I have is my NordicTrack.

  • @AdrianvanEeden
    @AdrianvanEeden Před rokem +21

    I always turn to your videos to sanity check anything else I watch. No b/s, no over-the-top distracting behaviour, even your promo material is handled professionally. Thank you for being so much help to a budding woodworker.

  • @cozyafloatisme
    @cozyafloatisme Před 3 lety +128

    You are a natural narrator! I didn't notice a single "uh" or "um" and your flow of information was smooth as a planed plank of pine, not to mention mighty handy to have in my brain pan! Well done and I've subscribed and punched the like button too!

    • @ssiddall222
      @ssiddall222 Před 2 lety +7

      I agree. These videos are well articulated, with intelligent and insightful comments/ideas. As I said before, my goal is to watch them all.

  • @vinceagnes
    @vinceagnes Před 3 lety +35

    This is one of the best guides to shop dust collection. In my nearly 50 years of furniture making, I have made most of the mistakes with my systems.If only I could have had this guidance many years ago!
    I now have mostly short runs, blast gates on all machinery, a single stage collector, and a cyclone. I hardly have any flexible ductwork. When I built my current house, I laid 4” pvc pipe in trenches before the basement slab was poured, coming up at each (planned) piece of equipment. It took a bit of planning and was a leap of faith, but the system has worked well over the last 28 years.
    Thanks for your great presentation.

  • @marknasia5293
    @marknasia5293 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice tip on the fire hazards of sweeping up nails hitting the impeller. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it will save me lots of time and money.

  • @shelmn
    @shelmn Před 3 lety +98

    As always you have a way of boiling it down to the essentials in such a clear and concise way. Love your way of teaching!

    • @lisaoeswein3271
      @lisaoeswein3271 Před 2 lety

      Great video. Teaching people your previous mistakes best way to pay it forward.

  • @cyrilnorrie8450
    @cyrilnorrie8450 Před 2 lety +14

    Once again, you've come up with a ton of valuable info without wasting time on useless info. You really have a way of communicating great ideas!

  • @marciolangeani9992
    @marciolangeani9992 Před 3 lety +13

    You just saved me from a lot of mistakes! Clear and dust free tips as always. Thanks a lot!!!

  • @rongiesbrecht5728
    @rongiesbrecht5728 Před rokem +10

    I am just becoming a fan of your instructional and review videos. They are the best in terms of detail and underlying rationale. You are also a naturally good presenter, using clear language, concise points, linear-logical progression. You are a very good teacher. The reliance that you have on your own experiences (both good and bad results) is a perfect exclamation mark to the points being made.

  • @jimaspinii7579
    @jimaspinii7579 Před 3 lety

    I’ve watched a LOT of videos on shop dust collection. This one is by far the most comprehensive and understandable!! THANKS!

  • @coreymatheson4132
    @coreymatheson4132 Před 3 lety

    Volumes of content in a concise to-the-point format. THANK YOU!!!

  • @woodbarber6679
    @woodbarber6679 Před 3 lety +13

    Been researching dust collection systems for a while now. This is by far the best advice I have seen when it comes to dust collection. Thanks, you’ve earned my subscription to your channel.

  • @leemichaels406
    @leemichaels406 Před 3 lety +7

    I went back today and re-worked my dust collector system today and moved the gates near the main feeds and the air flow really changed for the better. Great tip!

  • @user-xl1ss3kw6u
    @user-xl1ss3kw6u Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing your expertise with simplicity and clarity. It is a rare treat!

  • @JohnnyS37
    @JohnnyS37 Před 3 lety +1

    One of THE BEST dust collection explanation videos I've came across! Well done!

  • @mgpalma
    @mgpalma Před 3 lety +9

    I can't thank you enough for this. I finally get it! You rock James!

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 Před 3 lety +43

    Matthias Wandel recently posted a number of dust collection related videos, including one with hard numbers comparing a shop vac and a homemade induction motor impeller, and different sizes of hose. A good companion video to this one

    • @frederickwood9116
      @frederickwood9116 Před 3 lety +16

      He has also gone the route of building dedicated dust/chip solutions for many of his tools. Local =short distance and dedicated = more tailored air flow or pressure for each tool. Also gives redundancy in the room.
      Personally I think he just likes building things. :-)

  • @ryanboelter6287
    @ryanboelter6287 Před 3 lety +2

    This video saved me hundreds of dollars. Thank you so much. I was in the process of ordering plumbing for a new system. You made many great points.

  • @floydsimpkins6858
    @floydsimpkins6858 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for being so honest and thorough. Your tutorial videos come highly recommended and I have watched a few. My good friend, neighbour and relative told me about your site and as an avid woodworker he was my woodworking mentor. Unfortunately he passed away two days ago. I thought it only fitting to revisit one of your videos in his honour. Thanks again for your guidance.

  • @ay8306
    @ay8306 Před 3 lety +16

    Great video with a lot of information packed into it. I was very glad that you made the statement that assuming you set your expectations properly, a single stage system may be fine for a small shop woodworker. With all due respect to Bill Pentz, the ability to install a semi-industrial 5HP+ cyclone system with 8" ducts and custom hoods on all machines is simply far beyond the reach of average weekend woodworker. While it would be absolutely necessary for someone exposed on a daily basis, for someone who might make a half a dozen cuts on a table saw every other week, such a setup is simply impractical. Too many internet dust collection pundits insist that your are just wasting your time unless you are going all the way to the extreme, leaving many to give up in frustration and go for nothing.

  • @PhilDeGuzman
    @PhilDeGuzman Před 3 lety +35

    Let me be the first to say this was a "sucky" video with lots of useful tips. I'm heading out to my shop and shorten a couple of runs and tape up some leaky seams.

  • @silverestore
    @silverestore Před 3 lety +2

    I'm a silversmith, and you have provided outstanding information for this type of workshop. Many thanks!

  • @matthewhoheisel7954
    @matthewhoheisel7954 Před 3 lety

    Looking to get into woodworking on a more regular basis and shopping for dust collector. This is by far the best video I’ve seen on the subject. Because of that, I’ve subscribed. Fantastic layout and description of topics. Can’t say enough about it.... absolutely top notch. Thank you

  • @greghurt4944
    @greghurt4944 Před 3 lety +24

    After reviewing the video, I started looking through my dust collection system to determine any leaks that could be occurring on 6 blast gates... It hadn't dawned on me that the metal gates were installed the wrong way (tightner needing to be on the back side facing the intake hose to secure the seal when gate is closed). Wow.. closely inspecting the blast gates, I could see the small thin spacing between the closed gate and the intake. Reinstalled and did see significant improvement with the air-flow coming through now .. thanks Stub

  • @ricmondelli5846
    @ricmondelli5846 Před 3 lety +4

    Perfect timing James, I have been using shop-Vac for years and I am thinking of upgrading to a single-stage because I just bought a new table saw and the Shop-Vac just doesn't cut it. I have a very small shop in my garage and the tips that you have just given me will really help me make an educated decision. Thanks as always your videos Rock!!!

  • @johnroederer6410
    @johnroederer6410 Před 3 lety

    Excellent, clear and thorough presentation. Thanks so much.I hope this presentation doesn't disappear, because there's an awful lot to remember and put into practice, when it comes to setting up my shop.

  • @billsiegel1783
    @billsiegel1783 Před 3 lety

    This is actually the best overview of shop Vacuums, chip separators, Cyclones vacuums that I’ve ever seen. And great info on the types of tubing that can be used. I even talked to fire departments that didn’t catch the fact I do more welding than woodworking. I knew I would need separate systems. Good job on the narration.

  • @frosiaburlakova7732
    @frosiaburlakova7732 Před 3 lety +12

    Thank you for this video, you've just saved me a lot of money and time. I'll stick with my shopvac for the time being rather than buying all the pipes and fittings and a dust collector as I was about to do.

  • @shadetreewelding
    @shadetreewelding Před 3 lety +3

    Another great video. I am getting back in to wood working now that the kids are grown and out of the house. Thanks for all the insight. Making and figuring out your mistakes is by far the best (albeit painful at times) education!

  • @Weaponofmassins
    @Weaponofmassins Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for this. I "inherited" my school shop about 4 years ago when our previous shop teacher retired and it has always had dust issues in the 16 years I've been working at the school, including failed filtration that had allowed everything from dust to wood chips bypassing the filtration on one collector. Shop was built sometime in the late '60's early '70's and a second collection system added (with equipment expansions) in the late '70's. You've given me a LOT to look at and bring up to speed. Thank you, again, for this.

  • @CardenBayCo
    @CardenBayCo Před 3 lety +1

    Love all your videos. Thank you for the all of them. This is perfect timing personally as I was wondering which route I should go as far as dust collection is concerned. Thanks again!

  • @socketman
    @socketman Před 3 lety +11

    This is gold, I was just getting ready to try and figure out what I wanted to do for my first ever dust collection system

  • @Rich32262
    @Rich32262 Před 3 lety +6

    I got a single stage Jet and didn't like the expense of the cartridge filters not to mention what it might take to clean them. I ended up attaching a round piece of plywood (routed underneath with a round nose bit for a tighter fit) to the top the the collector using the existing spring clips to hold it down that came with the machine. I made a hole in the top to accommodate the 4" PVC that comes out of the top and with an elbow attaches to a dryer vent about 1" away on the wall. The large chips fall in to the bag while the fine dust goes outside of my shop via a dryer vent.

  • @olumideese7971
    @olumideese7971 Před 3 lety

    Extremely informative video. Usually don't have the patience for any videos longer that 10mins, but I will actually be watching this again to take in the points better. Thanks alot!!

  • @gisdad1187
    @gisdad1187 Před 3 lety

    This should be an example for all CZcams to follow imho; straight forward, easy to understand, well organized and informative! Well done, I'll be back.

  • @calebcotter2850
    @calebcotter2850 Před 3 lety +11

    I can picture myself making every single one of these mistakes. Thanks for the tip stumpy

    • @googlesucks100ballsandshaf6
      @googlesucks100ballsandshaf6 Před 3 lety

      But those are not mistakes? Not everyone can or wants to put 4k into a dust collection system amd have the best of everything.

  • @thewoodworkersjourney3314

    Once again, Stumpy shares verbal gold. I'll be setting up my first real dust collection soon, so this dropped at the perfect time.

  • @thomasreynolds1530
    @thomasreynolds1530 Před 3 lety

    These fundamentals keep my growing shop running efficiently. Thank you!

  • @marcboardman1187
    @marcboardman1187 Před 2 lety

    Stumpy, your presentation is clear, concise, and well supported by your visual aids and explanations. Thank you for sharing your hard-won wisdom. I have watched about a dozen videos so far on dust collection systems and yours was by far the most objective and comprehensive. Based on what I have gleaned from your video I will be using a shop vac with a cyclone separator and 2.5" hoses for all my small power tools. For all the large power tools I will use a single-stage vortex dust collector, with rigid 4" PVC pipe, minimal bends, clean-outs at the end of every straight run, limited 4" flex tubing, and blast gates at the Y-fittings off the main line rigid pipe. I haven't decided on what HEPA system yet. Again, thank you! I was seeing plenty of flex pipe product online and not a lot about the pros and cons. I am certain you have already saved me a lot of grieve and wasted money.

  • @drinker98
    @drinker98 Před 3 lety +34

    As an operator of multiple large industrial dust collections systems I would say this is an excellent collection of wisdom. We have a strict policy against “floor sweeps”, they are bad and very unsafe for large systems. If you need a floor sweep your system is not designed right. The only advice I would add is to look at the collection right at the source, are you trying to catch the dust or capture as it fly’s by the opening. Many machines are not designed well for efficient dust capture at the source. Thanks for the video.

    • @brucelangridge6302
      @brucelangridge6302 Před 3 lety +1

      This is true of older machines which although work efficiently preparing wood do not have any respect for ones lungs. So buyer beware.

    • @marcb2120
      @marcb2120 Před 3 lety +3

      I thought sweeps were a great idea. I'll stick to making a pile of sawdust on the floor and picking it up with the shop vac.

    • @chriscarter7182
      @chriscarter7182 Před 3 lety +1

      @Mike Dillon. I don’t have “working knowledge”, but rather “casual knowledge”. From from my work experience, shouldn’t all ductwork of this type and use, also be of a grounding type ductwork to prevent electro static discharge?

    • @drinker98
      @drinker98 Před 3 lety

      @@chriscarter7182 I think Stumpy has a good video on this topic.

    • @chriscarter7182
      @chriscarter7182 Před 3 lety +6

      @@charlieodom9107 Thanks for the answer. I retired from Boeing almost 6 years ago. We made titanium structures for the aircraft. In the production lines we developed, where ever titanium chips or dust were collected by vacuum, the portable vacuums were required to be explosion proof. One bench mechanic was using a small hand held pneumatic vacuum and it exploded in his hand. He wasn’t injured, just unpleasantly surprised. The root cause was determined to be static discharge in the canvas collection bag. We had a large central vacuum system in the building but the production lines we developed used portable shop vac’s and they were required to be explosion proof after that incident.

  • @rankingutteriz455
    @rankingutteriz455 Před 3 lety +7

    Great info. Thank you. I would highly encourage you to try/review Oneida’s supercell system to add to your video series. It’s beyond incredible!

  • @alandi4580
    @alandi4580 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. It helped make sense of a number of issues I have encountered trying, unsucessfully, to manage dust in my small DIY workshop. Thank you.

  • @richardr6203
    @richardr6203 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m a beginning woodworker, after completing a project I realized that I needed some kind of dust collection system in my garage workshop. I started designing a system around my shopvac. Thank you for this posting. I’m now re-thinking dust collection and my shop layout.

  • @DEtchells
    @DEtchells Před 3 lety +9

    Excellent video, extremely well-presented with all the important tips anyone thinking about building a system would need :-)
    One niggle though: You repeated a common misconception about dust collectors, namely that running them with insufficient air flow will cause them to overheat. The opposite is actually true: When an impeller system is running with no airflow, the motor is actually under the *least* load. This is counterintuitive until you think about it in terms of what work it is that the motor is doing, namely moving air. The more it’s moving per unit time, the more power it’s consuming; the less air the less power.
    It’s important to note though, that most shop vacuums *will* overheat if you restrict airflow. This is because inexpensive models use the vacuum’s exhaust to cool the motor. When you block the airflow, the motor does less work, the same as in a big system, but the motor can’t get any cooling air, so it overheats.
    High-end shop vacs use a separate air stream to cool the motor, so there’s no problem if their intake is blocked. (My Fein Turbo II is built that way, and I assume other high-end brands like Festool are designed the same.)
    Oh - another little tip: Shop vac filters are generally pretty bad, in that they don’t filter very finely. Gore-Tex makes a filter that matches Craftsman “red band” filters, which fit not only Craftsman vacs but many others besides. I don’t think they’re true HEPA filters, but they filter much more fine,y than the stock paper ones. They’re expensive but last a very long time if you brush them off well whenever you empty your vac. You can easily find these on Amazon and elsewhere, just be sure to check their dimensions against the filters your vac uses.
    Once again, a fantastic piece; any woodworker looking at dust collection should see it!

  • @mariushegli
    @mariushegli Před 3 lety +5

    I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

  • @kennethspengler9934
    @kennethspengler9934 Před 3 lety

    Like everything you produce, it’s an excellent and informative video. I have a harbor freight dust collector with a canister filter (that you recommended in a previous video) with a garbage can separator. I’ve been using too much 4” flex hose. I’ve been reducing it to a 2-1/2” shop vac hose to suck up the dust from my table saw. Now I know why it hasn’t been working well. Thanks so much for all of your excellent videos. I’ll watch this more than once.

  • @davidmaxim6762
    @davidmaxim6762 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the more detailed explanation. I put a 4" ducted soil pipe system in which works quite well, I was going to purchase a a better cloth filter bag but now after seeing this I am going for the cannister filter. Your explanation of not losing so much of the airflow using one of these has saved me the pain of a lot of trial and error, not to mention the money saved. So its a thumbs up from me.

  • @maplobats
    @maplobats Před 3 lety +12

    80% of my dust collection system is my broom. Love to upgrade some day.

  • @Chogogo717
    @Chogogo717 Před 3 lety +71

    I guess I’ll stick to blowing my garage out with my leaf blower. 😏

    • @jeffmackdesigns
      @jeffmackdesigns Před 3 lety +1

      😂😂😂

    • @KC2ATE
      @KC2ATE Před 3 lety

      same here

    • @joshyingling
      @joshyingling Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah I honestly I still do that. Every tool can't be hooked up to a dust collector or I just need to make one cut so my shop still has dust everywhere. I think the dust avoidance system is second best to collecting it. A good squirrel cage fan blowing away the dust while you work is much more affordable and convenient .

    • @benjaminphillips9453
      @benjaminphillips9453 Před 3 lety

      Glad I'm not the only one who does that. This video makes me a little ashamed of my shop setup

    • @commonla13
      @commonla13 Před 3 lety

      I do that. Hahahaha!

  • @roscoutd
    @roscoutd Před rokem

    This is the best video I have found that provides a full explanation of dust collection. Great job!!

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Před 3 lety

    I've been eyeballing and trying to figure out a dust collection system for over a year now and this is been the best video out there to help me figure out what I need for my shop thanks a lot

  • @farrier2708
    @farrier2708 Před 3 lety +19

    As an Architectural Technologist, I have a fair understanding of air flow and resistance from a time when we thought warm air heating was good idea.
    Nevertheless, you have taught me stuff I did not know and made me more aware of the stuff I should know. It just goes to show; "You are never to old to learn".
    Thanks, Stumpy.

  • @jamespavicich8527
    @jamespavicich8527 Před 3 lety +8

    I liked everything about your video except the part about starving the air flow thus causing the motor to overheat. As a retired HVAC tech, I've found that starving the air flow results in a lower load on the motor with a corresponding reduction in amp draw. Granted that the efficiency of dust collection suffers, but it doesn't cause the motor to overheat.

    • @greggbenson8880
      @greggbenson8880 Před rokem

      also the air that cools the motor is separate from the dust collection air

  • @CC-sj1bo
    @CC-sj1bo Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this video. I've been considering upgrading my shop vac to a single stage, and this has cleared up a lot of questions I had, and some I hadn't considered.

  • @Huey52123
    @Huey52123 Před 3 lety

    Thank You James for bringing science and common sense to an oft disinformed subject. You're always refreshing and insightful to view. Well done!

  • @popsshops
    @popsshops Před 3 lety +5

    A bunch of good tips. At approx. 6:00 you said a duct that is too large will cause resistance. That is not true but what it does do is decrease the velocity. A minimum velocity (3500-4000 FPM) is required to keep the dust/shavings suspended; otherwise they will collect on the bottom and eventually cause an obstruction. You should also note that when using PVC duct (or most any plastic), you should run a ground wire inside. The chips flowing past a plastic surface will create static electricity which in turn can create a spark. Dust can actually be explosive under the right conditions so you wouldn't want to encourage that.

    • @zbaldwin538
      @zbaldwin538 Před 3 lety

      All true! I came looking for someone that knew and commented this info. Also using shop vacs can be dangerous because the motors can spark acting as an ignition source. Static dissipative flex hoses are also a good idea for the same reason as the PVC pipe. Hope your comment gets more attention.

  • @Tapajara
    @Tapajara Před 2 lety +7

    Collecting "Dust" as opposed to "Chips" is a quite different thing. A relatively slow air flow does a good job at collecting dust because the particles are small and they are quickly slowed to where they are floating in air. Chips, on the other hand, have a lot more mass to surface area and will travel much farther and escape many dust collection systems. But these are usually few and are easily collected by other means. It is the dust that I want to get rid of because it settles on everything given enough time.

  • @thetheo2002
    @thetheo2002 Před 3 lety +1

    A great post. After a lot of trial and error I have the Oneida after market black cyclone, a 2HP collector with filter bags top and bottom in a closet venting outside and 6” hose on the top of the cyclone and 1 shrinking 5” hose to whatever machine I am using. Also a box air filter hanging from the ceiling. This is finally doing the trick.

  • @Sailabear11
    @Sailabear11 Před 3 lety

    This is the best video on the internet on the subject. Well done sir!

  • @davejankus6230
    @davejankus6230 Před 3 lety +9

    I solved the filter problem by venting my system directly outside. I live in the country and my nearest neighbor is a 1/4 mile away so no danger to others.

    • @TubeHammel
      @TubeHammel Před 3 lety

      Great idea! I thought about doing that as well, but my neighbor is about 15 feet away! But I guess one could build a shed attached to the shop which houses a serious dust collector.

    • @boydmerriman
      @boydmerriman Před 3 lety +1

      @@TubeHammel Just run a hose to your neighbors system when they aren't home!

    • @TubeHammel
      @TubeHammel Před 3 lety +2

      @@boydmerriman He doesn't have a shop. I think he doesn't even know how to grip a hammer! ;-) But he is still a nice feller.

    • @memo007999
      @memo007999 Před 2 lety

      I was going to do the same but my concern is is the winter when it’s -20 -30c
      I would have to replace that air with outside air

  • @_P0tat07_
    @_P0tat07_ Před 3 lety +5

    Just go the Matthias Wandel approach... and have a dust collector for every machine 😂🤣

    • @Ham68229
      @Ham68229 Před 3 lety

      That guy is smart, sometimes too smart and yet, at the same time, not so smart. His approach from the last that I've seen, is more of a bit of laziness on his part.

    • @desmondjones7540
      @desmondjones7540 Před 2 lety

      Great information. Instead of using a pleated filter, could you just vent the dust/ air outside. This will increase the air flow. I have a Grizzly 220volt system in a 600sq ft shop. I turn wood bowls, there is alot of sanding. Any pros or cons is appreciated. Keep helping us.

  • @backpacker3421
    @backpacker3421 Před 3 lety

    One of the best vids in quite some time. Very valuable. Very clear. I recently made the jump to a DE from a shopvac set up myself and had to do a TON of research over a week to get about 1/2 of the information here. My shop is tiny (1/4 of a two car garage), so fortunately I had a simple job to do. Single stage DE, connected to a chip separator with a remote control ON/OFF. 10' of flex hose reaches everywhere in my tiny space, and I only connect to one tool or attachment at a time, so no need for ductwork. I noticed an immediate difference - far less uncaptured dust on every tool. For a couple tools, I will reduce down to 2-1/2, but I do this with rigid adapters at the tool so it expands to 4" right away, and with the remote control, the DE is only running when I'm using the tool, never more than a minute or so at a time. It still does a bit better than the shop vac.

  • @jimb7922
    @jimb7922 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Again for sharing your journey. The knowledge you have gathered and shared from you experiences will save a great many people many years, dollars, frustration, and disappointment. Very well Done !

  • @eyecandy-gaming
    @eyecandy-gaming Před 3 lety +4

    I havre a perfect dust collector. I just hand my son a broom.

  • @DIYBuilds
    @DIYBuilds Před 3 lety +37

    Woot my hands at 6:06

    • @FearsomeWarrior
      @FearsomeWarrior Před 3 lety

      You could be a model, a hand model.

    • @josephgonzales5030
      @josephgonzales5030 Před 3 lety

      Hey buddy one of these days I'm gonna pump the air outside through a vent the way you did it. Your video was a game changer for me. I don't have space for a big filter.

    • @matthewb8229
      @matthewb8229 Před 3 lety +2

      I like the channel name. I went to school with a guy we called 7/8ths. He'd lost the end of his left middle in a "table saw incident". He would also use that finger to flip you off to prove how much he didn't care to send the very best.

  • @MattouRevient
    @MattouRevient Před 3 lety

    This is an absolutely fantastic video. After watching three others that didn't even touch on the conceptual aspects of dust collection I found and devoured this vid, which walks is through the key precepts involved in putting together effective dust collection systems. All I needed (as he did the research for us) to move ahead with my planning...

  • @earljtharp
    @earljtharp Před 3 lety

    You are so right. I’ve made every single mistake you talked about. Wish I would have found your channel about 15 years ago.

  • @leeackerson2579
    @leeackerson2579 Před 3 lety +6

    Two things: Install your filter and motor just outside your shop in a protected area; eliminate the fine particle passing through the filter bag into the shop. DON'T grind metal on sanders in a wood shop, sparks will cause a smoldering fire.

    • @JoeFrickinFriday
      @JoeFrickinFriday Před 3 lety +4

      Throwing metal sparks into a pile of sawdust is indeed a bad idea, but it should be noted that piles of metal dust (from grinding) can also be ignited, even without wood dust present.
      Also, I think lung protection maybe didn't get quite enough attention in this video. Regardless of whatever dust/smoke collection system you may have in your shop, it's not going to get everything coming off of a machine. A half-mask respirator with P100 filter cartridges is a must-have for any woodworking, metalworking, or welding.

  • @rickstowell3497
    @rickstowell3497 Před 3 lety +4

    Stumpy: You mention using PVC pipe however, I didn't see any grounding wire in the photos. Do you ground your PVC piping ?

    • @makermark67
      @makermark67 Před 3 lety +1

      That's pretty much a myth, or an old wives tail as we call it. No need to ground, it's not going to ignite.

    • @grigorbrowning
      @grigorbrowning Před 3 lety

      My recall is that he covers it in the video when they installed the PVC ducting when they moved into the post office. If memory serves he takes the stance that it's not needed (the density of chips/dust isn't high enough for sparks to actually ignite it). However, I think he then reasons that it's easy to add by using a copper wire linking occasional screws through the duct.

    • @makermark67
      @makermark67 Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/WJ8NMYlhaLQ/video.html

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/WJ8NMYlhaLQ/video.html

  • @bryanmoir3184
    @bryanmoir3184 Před 3 lety

    Always the best source for balanced and thoughtful advice. Thanks!

  • @SoulForgeHomestead
    @SoulForgeHomestead Před 3 lety

    I am putting together my first dust collection system now and this is pure gold! Thanks!

  • @NextLevelCarpentry
    @NextLevelCarpentry Před 3 lety +17

    Hey James, You should know I've learned a number of useful things from you and your videos and appreciate the example you represent to the woodworking community.
    Believing you're a reasonable guy I do hope, since you've snipped a screenshot from my dust collection system: czcams.com/video/qjI5l4nF9AM/video.html to post in your video as an example of what NOT to do in some, maybe even most, ductwork systems, that you'll do me the courtesy of explaining to your viewers the context of my system compared to yours. Regardless of your response to my hopeful comment I'm not going to point out things from your shop and/or workflow to my audience that are woefully lacking from my frame of reference... that would be both cowardly and disrespectful.
    Best regards,
    Matt Jackson
    Next Level Carpentry on CZcams

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Před 3 lety +22

      Hi, Matt. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you did not mean the "cowardly and disrespectful" portion of your comment since it GREATLY escalates what would otherwise be a simple misunderstanding of intent. I chose that image from Google not really knowing who you were. It wasn't personal at all. I needed a photo of a long piece of flex hose in a shop setting, and I found yours a little humorous. It was an important point that I was making, as I am sure you will agree. However, I admit that the image I chose lacks context, and I regret that. I own the same Harvey dust processor that you have and it produces an abundance of airflow for the size shop you own, giving you the luxury of using a lot more flex hose than most other woodworkers should use. I said as much while defending you in response to the comment I received about it below. Given that I neglected to provide context in the video I will pin to the top of the comments a statement about it. Because, as you said in the first half of your comment, I am indeed a "reasonable guy". Have a nice day, Matt :)

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Před 3 lety +18

      (This comment is now pinned to the top of the comments section, directly below the video.) IMPORTANT: In the video I show an image of a workshop with an excessively long length of flex hose. I found the image on Google and thought it was a humorous example of a big piece of hose. I neglected to provide context for the image. The gentleman in the photo was attaching that hose to a much more powerful system than is found in most small workshops. He could afford to lose some airflow from the long flex hose, and it works well for him. By not providing that context I made it appear that HE was making a mistake rather than my intended point, which is that most OTHER folks should not do that with their single-stage systems. I am sorry I didn't make that clear, which is why I have removed the image from the video thumbnail and I am pinning this comment to the top so everyone can see it.

  • @northeastcorals
    @northeastcorals Před 3 měsíci

    I wish I'd just watched your video first, it's more comprehensive than the 15 or so videos I've previously spent time watching on CZcams all combined. New Subscriber here.

  • @mcl3658
    @mcl3658 Před 3 lety +2

    Brilliant! Thanks for saving me a lot of trouble and time wasted. I was getting ready to get some practice with most of the mistakes. Back to the drawing board I go.

  • @georged562
    @georged562 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for all the informative tips. I'm in the process of setting up dust collection for my shop including my new router lift. This was extremely helpful!

  • @CVCceo
    @CVCceo Před 3 lety

    Great teaching as always. I value your experience and learning through difficult choices.

  • @davidswart597
    @davidswart597 Před rokem

    Very helpful video. I am putting together my shop now and this information helped me realize my dust collection ideas would have taken me in the wrong direction. Essentially you helped me realize that I would have wasted money. I now know I should keep the system much simpler than I thought. Thank you.

  • @imortaldeadead
    @imortaldeadead Před 3 lety

    You have opened my mind to the options and limitations of each.
    Thank you for sharing and explaining too, hopefully many of us will learn from this
    Thank you

  • @drewwestenbarger535
    @drewwestenbarger535 Před 3 lety

    Love listening to your informational videos. You do a great job getting all the facts out to take into consideration.

  • @Heelms
    @Heelms Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much. You covered everything I needed to know in order to find what works best for my small workshop.

  • @markjohnson693
    @markjohnson693 Před 2 lety

    Thank you! I can tell you put a lot of thought into your videos. I appreciate them a lot.

  • @Capitaine.Albator
    @Capitaine.Albator Před 3 lety

    I don't do woodwork but CZcams decided to suggest your video to me. I was not disappointed! Awesome tips very well explained and logical. Thanks for the video

  • @thewoodenmustache
    @thewoodenmustache Před 3 lety +1

    Here I was thinking my 2.5 gallon shop vac was so awesome. Thanks so much for putting this video together, super helpful!

  • @warpark
    @warpark Před 11 měsíci

    This was super helpful! I’m just getting my woodshop started and was about to make most of the mistakes you pointed out. Thanks for this!

  • @shawnbailey275
    @shawnbailey275 Před 3 lety

    This was maybe the most informative video I've watched on you tube!!! Thank you!!!

  • @Keithdonaldgreen
    @Keithdonaldgreen Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent video - has made me significantly change my plans. Thank you

  • @donnaer
    @donnaer Před 2 lety

    Concise, simple, easy to understand. The summary was great. I will be back! This is important stuff. Thank you.

  • @larryprice2694
    @larryprice2694 Před rokem

    Best information on dust collection I have found, very clear and easy to understand. Thank you.

  • @raynussbaum2640
    @raynussbaum2640 Před 2 lety

    Very well done. Very clear and easy to follow. Thanks

  • @lorenlukens8420
    @lorenlukens8420 Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely the best explanation of a dust collection system on CZcams. Thx

  • @ruthstewart5242
    @ruthstewart5242 Před 2 lety

    Excellent presentation and summary! Thanks for the info!

  • @JamesRousseaux
    @JamesRousseaux Před 2 lety

    Great advice. Thank you for sharing your knowledge

  • @dngriffiths8105
    @dngriffiths8105 Před 3 lety

    Really a superb summary...as usual. I'll be coming back to this more than once. Thanks.

  • @geoffreymorgan8366
    @geoffreymorgan8366 Před 3 lety

    Hi Stumpy, great information clearly enunciated.
    I have reverse engineered ( well done things in an obverse way) my dust extraction. I have put all smaller machines (thicknesser, jointer etc) on trolleys so they can be moved to the center of the room where they can connect directly to my single phase dust extractor unit, wheel them out when needed, then put them away for cleanup.
    I had not properly considered flow rate and power, where collection of chips and dust is directly adjacent to the source, so have now bought a ShopVac to get that high power high speed flow from router etc.
    Love your channel, Geoff

  • @JamesDoylesGarage
    @JamesDoylesGarage Před 3 lety

    EVERY SHOP should watch this. Great job. I learned a lot. Excited to apply what I learned. Thank you.

  • @joshgray3360
    @joshgray3360 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video summing up a lot of knowledge the you'd usually have to sort through numerous forum posts to obtain. And I was looking into building my dust collection system today, so perfect timing!

  • @larryharris3283
    @larryharris3283 Před 3 lety

    Very informative sense I am just building my dust collection system , thanks for the information.

  • @og7541
    @og7541 Před 3 lety

    Exceptional overview. Thanks for pulling this together.

  • @richardsnell5449
    @richardsnell5449 Před 3 lety

    Great video as always! Very instructive it has made me look closely at my dust collection system and cleared up issues that I had. Thank you!