SUB-HALF-MOA Bergara B14 Wilderness Terrain - 6.5 PRC
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I just bought a Bergara Wilderness in .308 Winchester
I checked the trigger pull and it was set from the factory at 2.5lbs. Like butter.
Bolt and action is smooth.
I picked the .308 Winchester because it'll take down all game in North America and .308 can be found almost anywhere. I live in Alaska and a buddy of mine has shot everything in Alaska from Brown bears, black bears sheep, goats, moose and caribou with his .308.
I'm retiring my .300 Win Mag.
It's all about shot placement.
Natives in the villages in Bush Alaska shoot moose with a .22
I'm no longer keen on shooting magnum cartridges. Not fun to shoot, destroys too much meat , expensive and good luck finding .300 win, 7mm mag, 6.5 prc, 6.5 creed as our world falls apart in 2022 at $75-$90 a box of 20.
I love mine ! I wish I had that pattern on my stock though.. mine's got a green speckle texture pattern..can't believe it sat at the store for over a year.. I was getting used to the savage trigger..but that One is like butter !
I've been wanting a nice bolt action rifle for quite a while now, and I've finally decided that I'll be picking up the HMR in 6.5 PRC. I cannot wait to get my hands on it.
I did a 5 shot group with my b-14 wilderness 6.5c and had .5 moa. Love my bergara!
Do you have other similar rifles to compare it to? I'm considering this exact rifle but there are some others that look good too. My only first hand experience is with winchester model 70's and 40 year old Brownings.
Thank you for your honest review on this beast of a gun. I live and from New Zealand and a blood thirsty hunter myself.
I am going to get the Bergara b14 hmr. I did favour the 6.5 creed but after watching this, the PRC has stolen my heart on this decision.
Thank you for the video and keep up the good work mate!
Love these bergaras i have 4 of the wilderness ridge guns a 28 nosler, 6.5 prc , 7mm rem mag and a 6.5 creedmoor all of them shoot wonderful .....
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Wonderful review!!! I've been interested in Bergara rifles and the 6.5 PRC and this video just seals the deal! 1st time viewer of your channel and can't wait to see what you harvest with It! LIKED and SUBSCRIBED
Good video, I've got several of these now. Bergara HMR wilderness in 300 PRC, B14 HMR in 308, Approach in 6.5. Just ordered an HMR paramount muzzleoader. Needless to say I love bergara rifles
Can you tell me out of the Bergaras you have, which would you recommend for hunting, design and ergonomics wise. Caliber not important, because probably I'll go with .308Win
Nice job Brian, great set-up
Great shooting! Love that Wilderness Terrain!
Beautiful set up. Thank you for sharing
Ever tried doing a little shot follow through, you would be surprised how much your groups will tighten up
I have the 6.5 Creedmoor B14 HMR, consistently getting 1-inch groups at 200 yards!
Well on that shooting support and shooting table that is moving like a boat on the sea that group is actually more than good...
I shot a best of .33 first time ever long range shooting with a Savage .308 with Gold Medal Match 168grain. But I want this Bergera PRC
Savage 110 tactical bull fluted barrel box mag, same with feds, but 175gn smk handloaded to 2625fps....1 hole 5 shot groups repeatedly....did I say repeatedly?
Bang(accuracy for buck) cant heat savage idc what anyone says....love bergara too have the ridge in 270..live it but it's just a diffrent tier rifle amazing noncompliant but savage convo here yeah savage on the cheaper end cannot be beat
Absolutely fantastic video ... Very well done !!! 😉👍
Great review, thnx. As a European gun-snob. Bergara is really appealing to me.
Such an awesome gun!!
My hmr is a beast in 6.5 prc love it
Just ordered the highlander in 300 prc can't wait to shoot it.
I'm curious too, about to buy a Bergara. If you have the time that would be great to get an opinion. Thanks
That is a beautiful looking gun mate and nice review cheers Yogi Australia 🤙🤙🇦🇺
I have same gun in 300 prc. With bushnell xrs2. Gun is way more accurate than me. Hypertap muzzle break make 300 feel like 556. Other than ammo being hard to find. I LOVE it.
This is exactly what I've been looking for. I've been thinking about purchasing a 300 PRC and getting a M4-72 Severe-Duty or Hypertap.
I love my bergara hmr in creedmoor.
But i think i need a wilderness in prc.
I handled a Bergara HMR shortly after they were released and was extremely impressed. It made the Remington the counter clerk was trying to sell me look like a steaming pile of excrement in every possible way; fit, finish, trigger, bolt through and manipulation, everything. In the end, I found a killer deal on a Steyr SSG-04 that I couldn't pass up. I will have an HMR one of these days.
Yeah man. It’s hard to explain how superior this is to my 700.
@@HarleyWood23 It's like the company actually cares about quality, performance, and customer satisfaction!
Lol. Right?
What range you shooting at brother?
I have a 100 yd range at the house
I like the PRC, but it's expensive. Off the shelf ammo and brass is high as well. I'm looking at rifles and can't decide between this one and the Tikka T3X CTR. I've still got some studying to do, so who knows.....I may take myself into a PRC before it's all said and done. 🙂
Very, very nice rifle. And a very good review, too. Gotta check out that 6.5 PRC caliber which is described as a “magnumized” 6.5 Creedmoor. Thanks.
Tom Finch
Exactly. Many say it’s what the CM should have been from the beginning. The CM already has quite a following. Gonna be hard to get PRC to overtake that now.
HarleyWood I don’t know. I’ve heard the military is looking for a bigger cartridge than the 556, so maybe they’ll jump to the 6.5 PRC. I’d be interested in knowing the barrel life on that PRC. Maybe you’ll let us know. How is the cost/availability of the ammo? I enjoy your content, Harley. Again thanks.
Ammo is anywhere from $36 - $60 per 20. I’m seeing more and more custom loads all the time. From what I understand, competitive shooters go through a barrel every 1,000 - 2,000 rounds. As a hunter, this would last me a lifetime though.
How much does your complete setup weigh?
How much it weigh without the bipod?
Trying to figure out if it matches the weight restrictions of our national competitions.
Good video, thanks! I have a request. I appreciate that you actually talked about some information about the rifle instead of just yet another video showing a person shooting it and really giving no information at all. But I wonder if you could do a follow-up video talking about your opinion of how the rifle would work in realistic hunting situations. Things like how does it feel while in the field? How does it balance? How comfortable is it to carry? How does the weight feel since it is a heavy rifle relative to traditional hunting rifles? To me and I know a lot of others information on those type of questions would be very helpful
Sure man. Season starts in 5 weeks. I’ll do a followup after.
@@HarleyWood23 wow thanks!!
You look like Mr Gunsngear's brother. Thank you for the great review
Im hoping Bergara pans out to be c as good or better than. These videos claim.
I bought a Bergara Premier Pro 6.5PRC that will be here in 2 days.
Stay behind the scope longer after the shot. Shoot larger groups.
Considering this or just the HMR but don't know if it should be used in PRS type matches.
Enjoy.
The HMR is a great PRS rifle
I bought one exactly like this in 65cm. I had nothing but problems.
The action screws were loose. After much frustration, I sent it back to the factory. They lapped the bolt lugs and re-cut the crown. On their range, they got a 0.839 group at 100 with 140g ELDM.
It's a beginner rifle. You can hunt with it. But it's no target shooter
There’s always an exception, but that’s a clown of a comment considering he just shot a .38 in at 100, and it’s not even marked as a “Target Rifle”, .38 at 100 is still Sub MOA out at long range 🤦♂️
Would love to see a follow up on this rifle
From what I have seen accuracy wise, the b14, hmr and hmr pro all soot the same.
I like the pro is a 416 stainless but its made in the US. I would prefer a barrel from the Spain factory. Its kind of bergaras whole thing! Lol
How do you adjust the cheek piece??
What's the difference between the terrain model and hmr?
Sweet gun and awesome review though 👍🏻👍🏻
Do you think the wilderness terrain might be a little heavy for hunting? Great video!
That would depend on the type of hunting. I sit in box stands or climbing stands all day. But if you're a spot and stalk hunter, yes, it's pretty heavy.
I have a B14 Hmr wilderness in 6.5 prc on order
you get it yet? how is it?
Just wondering why you jerk the trigger rather than squeezing?
Nice rifle and scope
Same rifle with a Silencerco Hybrid 46 attached - 0.74" @ 200 yds with Hornady factory 147gr ELD Match. 0.94" @ 200 yds with Hornady factory 143gr ELD-X.
That’s awesome. I’ve actually had better groups with the ELD-M as well.
Round count in the groups?
Did you see the cool smoke ring at the 1.05 min mark?
S I C K ! One day I'll get me a piece of land so I can get more serious. I just can't justify these rifles until I have a nice spot to shoot that's not 50 miles away!
I hear yah.
What model bipod is that?
What called supresors?
1/2 MOA in a lead sled ; bet I can do that !
Do these have a long ot short throat?
Don't need no hi dollar rig when I have Howa 1500s that pokes em in the same hole. Be more than happy to take folks out to prove, for a fraction of the price, and my vanguards are the same.
Great video! How does the cheek piece adjust?
That hex bolt right in front of the rearmost QD cup.
HarleyWood so not quick adjust?
scott smith
Not this model. The HMR model has a thumb screw.
Harley, truly enjoyed your video as I am looking to add to my gun collection with a Bergara rifle. Looking at the 6.5PRC round as well as the 300 Win Mag. However, after your video I believe that the 6.5PRC may be the round for me for less recoil, velocity and a significant round for target and hunting. If you could do it all over again, would you duplicate your purchase? And yes, 2020 being the year of the pandemic along with not so nice individuals makes your video enjoyable. Look forward to hearing back on your opinion. Blue skies, Jg
Absolutely, I would make the same decision again. The ammo is REALLY hard to find right now, but so is just about all ammo, right? Depending on the kind of hunting you do, the rifle is quite long and heavy. I hunt mostly box stands and tree climbers so it’s not a big deal but you’d have to be in good shape if you spot and stalk hunt.
@@HarleyWood23 Hello Harley, appreciate your feedback on the Bergara. Will keep you updated on my purchase.
Is there any significant difference between this version and the Wilderness HMR besides LOP adjustment?
Nathan L
Just the grip angle and quick-adjust cheek riser.
@@HarleyWood23 Thanks. Trying to decide between the two.
Nathan L
I know the feeling. Lol
7mm 08 is a perfect 7mm short action.
7-08 is more comparable to the 6.5 CM, rather than the PRC. Versus the PRC, the 7-08 doesn't have near the velocity, and drops significantly more at distance.
I just ordered one in .308. I can’t decide what bipod to get. Which one do you have?
the one in the video is a Harris. I would recommend the Atlas though. that's what i have on it now.
The QD cups on the butt stock are recessed on my 2 day old 300 Win Mag Bergara B-14 Wilderness Terrain. QD's will not lock in. Any fix for that? I would think they would have tested it before it left Spain. Thanks.
Mine was like that also. Had to loosen the bolt inside. I agree...something that should have been caught.
I'm sorry you have that issue with your stock. That's not good. You can contact our customer service, and we'll take care of it. Same for you @HarleyWood.
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BERGARA will send you spacers for QD cups, has same problem. 5 minute fix, use blue Loctite. 👍🇨🇦
Would 6.5 prc take a moose or black bear? Like 400 to 500 hundred yards. Not that I would. Knew to hunting.
with good shot placement, yes. Might suggest the 300 PRC for moose though.
I have that in a 300 prc
You could definitely use that rifle for Elk.
is that mag box stock? What is the max COAL for that mag box? (I don't like hinged floorplate stuff at all)
there are versions of the rifle with both options.
please tell me, is the extractor tooth also broken and made of bad material
Mine seems fine
@@HarleyWood23 I live in Russia Moscow, I have a bergara b14 Hunter, broke down after a few shots. The material does not seem to be of high quality for this detail, it breaks at all. In the USA there is a good quality on sale, not factory I will look for an opportunity to order. But the carbine is very good and I like it. Health To You)
I've been looking at either the Wilderness Terrain or Wilderness HMR. Excluding your fathers choice, what factored into going with the Terrain?
At the time, they were out of stock on the 6.5PRC in the HMR line. Otherwise that’s what I would have chosen. You can’t go wrong either way though. I now have my dad’s 6.5 CM and that HMR stock is sweet.
@@HarleyWood23 Sounds good! I'm looking into one with a 20inch barrel for trips to the range and the occasional whitetail hunt so usability is key
@@Jean_The_Bastien
Yeah. The PRC is a 26” barrel and kinda heavy. I hunt with it also but mainly in a box stand. The 20 will be much better.
I cant make my mind up between this one or the hmr version. Any suggestions ?
My father had the HMR version in 6.5CM. He passed away in December and I have that firearm now as well. Honestly, they're both great. HMR weighs a few ounces more. Other than that, i'd say the decision comes down to whether you see yourself needing to adjust the cheek riser regularly. The HMR makes that much easier
@@HarleyWood23 is the angle for the grip for your right hand about the same on both or is the hmr have more of a pistol type. I wouldn’t be adjusting cheek much at all
@@mulekicker-ut5jl yeah, that's true. the HMR has a steeper angle on the grip.
@@HarleyWood23 Thanks for the information. Sorry to hear about you father.
Unfortunately 3 shot groups doesnt really mean anything. You should watch 9holes video on groups, he explains it pretty well. But since we are on the topic, I've shot two 3 round groups with my sako trg 308, they were 0.24moa and 0.27moa. The gun is only a month old and havent gotten around to do 10 shot groups yet, but tested a few different rounds with 5 shot groups and everything have been around 0.4-0.6moa. Did also a rapidfire group, 33 seconds for 5 shots 0.44moa group.
Edit: everything shot prone with bipod.
tiputipu777
This isn’t a review of my shooting skills. Obviously the rifle is capable. That’s the focus.
@@HarleyWood23 yes, and 3 round groups do NOT showcase the performance of the rifle and ammo combination. Its pretty simple math. You could have 3 different 3 round groups all 0.3moa but when you put all of the groups on top of each other it could cover even a bigger are than 1 moa. 5 round groups is a good compromise if you dont have the recources or time to do 9 or 10 shot groups.
For a hunting rifle (which is what this is) not a target rifle 3 shot groupes is perfectly fine, how often do you need 1/2 MOA for 5-10 shots while out hunting?
Once you've found your load, your cold bore shot it the real tell all for your hunting setup!
Wish I could find an hmr wilderness in 6.5 creedmoor. Been looking daily for weeks. (The one with the square stock)
What's the weight without the bipod and can?
Sorry. Forgot to mention in the review. It’s 11.8 pounds. Two pounds less without the scope.
Is your rifle 24” barrel
I noticed they have changed it to a 22” on the website
Yes, mine is the 24. Glad they changed it. I think 24 is a little overkill.
It is 24” glitch on website yesterday
So you're saying a 30 moa rail is included?
those are available configuration options. When you order it, you would select either no rail, a 20 or a 30 MOA rail.
7mm-08 is not a good option for short action?????
yes, but 7-08 is more comparable to the 6.5 CM, rather than the PRC. Versus the PRC, the 7-08 drops significantly more at distance, and unless you run sub-130 gr loads, it doesn't have near the velocity of the PRC.
The only Remingtons that really shoot are the police models. On another note, I don’t think that 200 FPS on the PRC vs creedmoor warrants the extra recoil and lesser barrel life, but that’s just my opinion though.
Hi
Did you ever do a follow, I thought in comments below you were going to do a follow up? Thanks in advance 👍🇨🇦
Thanks for the reminder. I just added it to my production calendar. I’ll have it done this month.
Are these rifles to heavy to hunt with?
I guess that depends on how you hunt. I’m typically stationary in a ladder stand or box stand. The weight isn’t really a factor.
@@HarleyWood23 thanks
The 6.5 PRC also reduces barrel life much sooner than the 6.5 creedmoor. Just something to remember if you shoot often.
What about 270 win
@@youtubecomments5951 The 270 Win at 1,000 rounds can start to effect accuracy. Thats not saying it is shot out but the grouping "might" start to open up slightly.
@@TenRing69 would that mean sooner than the 6.5 creedmoor
@@youtubecomments5951Research throat erosion. There are many factors that contribute to the life of a barrel. If you have your heart set on a .270, then get it. If you are a hunter & not a paper/ steel target shooter, it will more than likely last you a lifetime.
Hi your shooting position and gear leave a lot to be desired get your self a solid bench and rear bag
Well heck, since you're the expert on what you think he needs, he should listen.....🙄
Five rounds count.
Not to split hairs but a 3 shot group on a sled doesn't count in my mind. I wanna see what you can do 5 shot group on a bipod with a rear bag.
It’s not a test of my shooting skills. The sled takes the “me” out of it.
@@HarleyWood23 oh I know, I'm just picking. That gun with hand loads I'd imagine could do a bit better aswell. I'd be curious to see what it'll do on a 5 shot with hand loads.
I assume 100 yds.
fly doc
Yes. That’s correct.
3rd groups dont count.
Shoot 5
when i do a review of my shooting skills, i'll be sure to do so. This video isn't that.
Im getting one in 308
With the current prices of ammo, that’s a very smart choice. This 6.5 PRC is about $65 per box now
@@HarleyWood23 ya thats the reason i going with 308 plus i have a shit ton of barnes 175 match burners and a ton of nato brass from 308 enfield i have
I shoot lot of elk with 308 within 400 yard
Sako a7 24.4 inches barrel nosler partition 165gr handload I live Wyoming
5 shots to tell accuracy
Says who? More and more shots only tests MY shooting ability, not the rifle’s. This is a review of the latter, not the former.
@@HarleyWood23 obviously you weren’t testing the shooter accuracy because you used a sled. If it’s a true .38 moa rifle it will put the last 2 shots in the same holes. The harmonics of the barrel change with heat and 5 shots is a much better indicator of the true accuracy. Not all rifles that shoot 1/2 moa with 3 shots can do it with 5.
Exactly what I said it the video regarding my shooting skills. But again, who authored the standards for such a test? What’s the acceptable cool-down time on the barrel? What about different profile barrels? Same cool-down time? There is no widely recognized standard. Just a shit ton of dudes on the internet with personal opinions.
@@HarleyWood23 it’s not an opinion when it’s proven true time and time again. Just because your rifle shot a .38 moa group one time doesn’t mean anything. It takes multiple 5 shot groups averaged out. Accuracy is the ability to repeat the same groups. I’m not saying your rifle isn’t what you say it is I’m saying a lot of rifles look good when you don’t test them fully.
Proven true by who? What governing body set the standard? It’s a simple question.
Personally, I would never want hunt with a 12-14lb setup like that. I’ve shot many many .28-.42 groups with my tikkas that are half the weight.
Lets see you do that again with 9 hole groups. You will show any weakness . 3 shot groups dont tell the whole truth about the gun. Try 9 holes.
This video isn’t a review of my shooting skills. Stay focused.
3 shot groups are fine for a hunting rifle captain butt fuck .......
Pansy, go to 20 shots and then we'll talk! 🙄
.187 5 shot group
Shoot a real 5 shot group. anyone can shoot a 3.
Wrong video. This is a review of the rifle, not my skills.
You are putting too much cheek on the gun pushing the front of the barrel left
Stop trying to measure from the center of the holes. A much more accurate method (albeit not perfect) is measuring the outer diameter and subtracting the bullet caliber.
Is this rifle too heavy to carry around in the woods? I've looking at it for some time now but i see a lot of people saying how heavy it is. I junto with my savage axis xp 2 with the accutech trigger in 308 and it has serve me well i have taken 2 deer with it so far and i won't get rid of it but i want another rifle in 6.5 creedmoor and i really like the looks of this one but i don't want something too heavy.
just imagine how much better you could shoot if you had a stable bench to shoot off of instead of that shaky one..