2023 Chevy Silverado 2.7 Turbo MPG Test | Real World Fuel Economy

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  • čas přidán 19. 12. 2022
  • In this video I discuss my real world fuel economy MPG that I was able to achieve with the 2023 Chevy Silverado LT 2.7l Turbo 4 cylinder. This truck is rated at 18 city/21 highway and 19 combined. Given these were break in miles, I would highly consider this as a "worse case" scenario as it should improve over time. With that said, I was hoping to see a higher number in my time with this truck. Let me know what you think of the MPG number in the comments and if you have a refresh 2022+ GM truck, let me know what your MPG has been. Stay tuned for our towing test and final impressions!
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Komentáře • 219

  • @derrickforeal4739
    @derrickforeal4739 Před rokem +26

    Mine get 18-22 mpg. And it has hell a torque. So glad I went with the new technology. 310hp/430 ft lb torque. Phenomenal!

  • @2504499
    @2504499 Před rokem +1

    Very good channel content! Great reporting.

  • @jleginski1
    @jleginski1 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely love my 2.7

  • @1DonMarathon
    @1DonMarathon Před 6 měsíci

    Phx, AZ I’m happy everyone is gettin 18-20 I was gettin 14 mpg in my 2018 LT 😅

  • @erickfernandorubio9048
    @erickfernandorubio9048 Před rokem +2

    I have the 22 2.7 4x4 and most of thr time im averaging 18 to 19 mpg. I love it.

  • @alex3012red
    @alex3012red Před rokem +3

    i got the 3.0 duramax, silverado rst Z71, 20 city 32 hwy, 25k miles so far with 22 avg, city for me with lots of traffic, i tow my boat around getting 18 mpg (est 5500 lbs total). i think i got a good deal at 49k otd. new 2021 trading in my 2019 same pkg with 5.3 gas, i was getting 14mpg, also got more than what i paid for. got 44500 trade in, with 20k miles, paid 43 when new

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      Wow! It sounds like you made out very well with that trade. Interesting to hear your results between both trucks. The 3.0l Diesel seems to be a great engine from what everyone is saying. Great MPG and good power. Thanks for the comment!

  • @thegreenberetlife0191
    @thegreenberetlife0191 Před rokem +16

    I have had mine for over 50,000. I average between city/hwy 21 mpg. On the highway, I get close to 25 mpg. It’s an excellent engine!

  • @prestigehauling7150
    @prestigehauling7150 Před rokem +5

    I got one for my junk Hauling business for $44k. I did want a V8 but dealerships here had either the 4 cyl in a Custom or LT or a V8 in a RST going for $62k. I have 10,000 miles now and am at a solid 20 MPG. I’m pretty sure the last 5.3 I was in was getting 16 mpg stock. Not a huge difference but there is some. Again, the sound on the 4 cyl is obviously not it, but aside from that the functionality and capability is more than enough for most people.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for your feedback! I actually enjoy the Turbo whistle sound from the 2.7.

  • @user-fj3vf6zi9i
    @user-fj3vf6zi9i Před 4 měsíci

    I had a 2015 with the 5.3l and I got between 18 and 21 with mixed driving. I had a 2023 and was not getting less than 22. On a 250 mile trip consisting of 55 mph back roads I got 27! I towed a TT and it was just was better than the 2015, but then again it had a 8 speed vs. the 6 speed in the 2015.

  • @MeatloafMelvin
    @MeatloafMelvin Před 8 měsíci

    2900 on my 2023 ZR2 Colorado with the L3B.
    I average 19 ish city highway combined in moderate hills and 2800 feet elevation
    27.4 as my best over 50 miles all highway

  • @daleliske9757
    @daleliske9757 Před rokem +1

    I have a 2015 GMC Sierra crew cab 4x4 Z71 with the 6 spd transmission, 3.42 axle. With 186,500 miles. I've deactivated the DFM, so it runs on 8 cylinders all the time. Factory rated 16 city 22 hwy. In the winter here in Michigan, I get 15 city. With the winter blend of gas, your vehicle runs richer. In the summer, I get 18.5 city 20hwy @ 73 mph cruise control. My big concern is with longevity of a high reving 4 cylinder.? Even though it has an 8 spd, it's still reving higher with a turbo, to get into its Power Band. Like it did on your towing video. My truck when towing a 1200 lb two axle trailer with 2 utility 4x4 atv's, so.. 3500 lbs total, it never revs higher than 4700 rpm under full throttle acceleration. And I get about 14.8 mpg hwy. The only pro I can see with the 4 cylinder, would be, changing the spark plugs should be easier.! Lol. However, if the turbo fails, there goes your savings over the 5.3.!!

  • @romeoybarra39
    @romeoybarra39 Před rokem +4

    I have a 2021 custom 2.7L with a 2inch level kit and 34” k02 tires. I average 17.5 mpgs. Torque is pretty amazing for that 4cyl, towing sticker on the door says 9000lbs. I pretty much maxed it out when I was doing a project by towing a dump trailer/ skid steer and it never skipped a beat. Pretty good truck if your daily driving and doing light work.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      I agree! This trucks towed just under 7,000 lbs without an issue.

    • @cbruno12180
      @cbruno12180 Před rokem +1

      The 2.7 turbo is honestly the best engine choice rt now in 23 unless u want the 6.2 for speed but the torque is amazing down low why get the 5.3 or deisel for an extra 2000? The deisel will cost double in maintaining it and fuel cost so does the 30mpg really matter in the end

    • @tattoomagic6110
      @tattoomagic6110 Před rokem

      I have a 2022 2.7 does the lift affect your towing or transmission temps ?

    • @romeoybarra39
      @romeoybarra39 Před rokem

      Not at all, i personally only have a level kit in the front. Pulled about 8,300lbs like butter.

    • @jeremysimpson1432
      @jeremysimpson1432 Před 9 měsíci

      How?! My life time average is 14.3 mpg! I can get 17 on the highway and that’s about it

  • @buddystrickland2753
    @buddystrickland2753 Před rokem +7

    I have a 2022 Silverado LT as well, but with the 3.0L lm2 engine and Z71 package.
    One thing I do notice is that the dealership puts the tire psi at either 35psi (65/70psi for HD trucks).
    On the 3.0l engine I got about 26-27mpg avg. even though the sticker shows 29 combined. But once I pumped the tire pressure to 40 psi, I was getting 27-28mpg avg.
    Try showing your tire pressure, then increase it and show a before/after?

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      That is definitely one way to gain a slight advantage. I am not sure what the recommended pressure is for this truck but I believe they were set right around 35-36 psi if I remember correctly.

  • @gtrance3567
    @gtrance3567 Před 14 dny

    Wow, the MPG reports from this engine are all over the place! Getty adventures just did a test today and got over 20 MPG‘s, go figure!

  • @fscottgray9784
    @fscottgray9784 Před rokem +2

    I have a 2022 gmc pro single cab 4x4 with the 2.7 turbo. Around town I get 17 mpg so far and on a couple of 1200 miles freeway trips at 80 mph I get 18.4 mpg.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      Interesting. Thanks for your feedback!

    • @JKyle-ii1mz
      @JKyle-ii1mz Před rokem +1

      That's kind of a shame. I would have thought much higher for a regular cab. I don't think the 5.3 is far behind that.

    • @danmontie6367
      @danmontie6367 Před rokem +2

      @@JKyle-ii1mz- gotta remember, 80 is definitely NOT the sweet spot for any truck. Mine is happiest at 60 (2018 F-150 XLT 2.7, tonneau cover), it’s good (20-23-ish, depending upon winds) up to about 75, but turns into a brick above that. At 80, regardless of winds, I’ve never broken into the 20’s.

    • @mickeybrumfield764
      @mickeybrumfield764 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@danmontie6367
      18.4 is impressive driving a brick at 80 mph.

  • @tyneanderson8830
    @tyneanderson8830 Před 2 měsíci

    I have a bit over 800 miles on my 4x4 2.7 max. I average 17.6 mpg pretty much exclusively city driving. That’s about what I got with my 2018 5.3 z71. I’m not really impressed with the mpgs, but I prefer the 2.7 over the 5.3 as far as driveability. It feels much quicker and handles like a much smaller vehicle. I’ve only towed my 24’ boat with it so far, but it pulls like there’s nothing behind it. I have a 16’ enclosed trailer that I’ll be taking up to the NC mountains with some building materials, I’ll be interested to see how that goes.

  • @davidzavala337
    @davidzavala337 Před 11 měsíci

    City is always what i based my fuel economy. Everyone talks about highway, but for thoae of us on big cities with bumper to bumper and mostly city thays important. My current 2016 Mazda cx5 averages 19 to 18 mpg witb average speeds of 14 to 16. My 2017 sonata was like 19 to 20, my former elantra was like 22-24 mpg, and a 2012 jeep wrangler with 33s all terrain with a 5 speed auto and two door i got like 15.5 which was not bad because of what i had and was.
    They needa form of mild or hybrid just for city assistance

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před 11 měsíci

      City MPG is very important for many people. Hybrid's definitely shine in this type of environment.

  • @sanhly2690
    @sanhly2690 Před 6 měsíci

    Hello.
    I just bought this truck (Silverado 1500 LT 2FL Turbomax, 4x4, ) about 4 weeks ago, this car is beautiful, good, strong engine. I want to buy an RV but I don't know if this vehicle can tow an RV or not? If so, what is the maximum weight of an RV?
    My Truck: Brand new 2024
    Gvwr=7,000lbs.
    Gcwr=14,500lbs.
    Rgawr=38,000lbs.
    Maxpayload=1,966lbs.
    Curbweight=5,034lbs.
    Conventional TWR=9,000lbs.
    Max tongue weight=900lbs.
    Gooseneck TWR=8,900lbs.
    Max tongue weight=1,335lbs.
    Gawr FRT=3,800lbs.
    Gawr RR=3,800lbs.
    Tire size:
    FRT=RR=265/65R18 T. (rim 18x8.5J)
    SPA=265/70R17 S (rim 17x8J).
    Font=Rear=Spare=240 kPa, 35Psi.
    So, Can my truck (GVWR=7,000lbs) tow an RV/Trailer with a maximum load of 9,000lbs?
    If possible, please post more videos of the Silverado 1500 2.7l, 4-cylinder truck pulling an RV trailer.
    Thanks

  • @tedmoss
    @tedmoss Před rokem

    My 5.3L 2000 Chevy Silverado gets 15.6 to 16 mpg combined, mostly city.

  • @robertdowns6051
    @robertdowns6051 Před 6 měsíci

    My 2022 custom Trail boss Z-71 gets 15-17 average with the 4 cyl turbo.

  • @Max-kn9yi
    @Max-kn9yi Před 7 měsíci

    LB3. 16 mpg with my 2023 canyon at4x..........I have 400 miles in it. If i put 700 lbs of gear on it, can I overland with it??? That's why I bought it. I'm not so sure now....

  • @gregday9943
    @gregday9943 Před 9 měsíci

    My step dads gmc high output averages about 18-19, so maybe different truck to truck or driving habits

  • @JJ-pf7qo
    @JJ-pf7qo Před rokem +1

    I got high as 30 mpg on 50 mph road for 100mi driving. normally I drive 65-67 mph on highway and I get around 25-27.

  • @poppyneese1811
    @poppyneese1811 Před rokem

    My 17 F150 2.7 Ecoboost has averaged 20.4 from day one, but we live in rural area, not many stop lights, the moutains cost you, but recover most of that on the down side. Was out in Wyoming and Utah and I don’t think good mpg is possible there, wind never stops and the grades go on forever. I will say be a stickler on your oil changes, I’m old and had never had a turbo anything and love it, 90k and not the first problem.

  • @kayak1613
    @kayak1613 Před 4 měsíci

    15.4 miles per gallon in town with a brand New truck is not all that bad. Love to see a road trip after the truck had maybe eight or 10,000 miles on the motor. I’ve talked to people that get well over 20 with that same motor. One more thing, for a motor to get 430 pounds of torque at 1500 RPM you need to pay for that somewhere. That might be the reason fuel consumption is coming in at lower numbers than you would like to see.

  • @ZERO_42069
    @ZERO_42069 Před 11 měsíci

    I got a 23 and its only getting 12 miles per gallon, it only has 400 miles on it and i had to fill it up twice

  • @harryvelez489
    @harryvelez489 Před rokem

    I have a 20-21 Silverado 1500 custom with a V6 I have it tonight 16 in town and 20 in the highway I like the sound of the research the four cylinder sound like a sewing machine

    • @cbruno12180
      @cbruno12180 Před rokem

      A v6 they stopped making those 4.3 6s are u sure ? Do you live in states ?

  • @jeffbaran8036
    @jeffbaran8036 Před rokem

    Great show. USA 🇺🇸

  • @humankind7355
    @humankind7355 Před rokem

    2020 Silverado 2.7T LT - 51,831 miles and I’m averaging 15.9-16.4 mpg consistently.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      That's right in line with what I have experienced.

  • @charlescasey9799
    @charlescasey9799 Před rokem +2

    I get 20 average with my 2021 Silverado lt v8 what’s the point with the 4. Cylinder ....they can sell two trucks mileage with 4 doesn’t seem worth it v8 please

    • @joseywales898
      @joseywales898 Před rokem

      Agree 100% Im a florida driver my 2018 suburban gets 22 Plus average, and hwy , way up there.

  • @stevenewsam6698
    @stevenewsam6698 Před rokem +13

    15.4 mpg, that’s terrible. My 300,000 mile 2001 ford truck gets 16 city 18 hwy mpg with a V8, 4 speed automatic, no cylinder deactivation, no engine stop start complexity. No improvements in 22 years mpg wise. What has changed is increased complexity and decreased reliability, for what I ask?

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      Substantially more performance and capability.

    • @aldoarredondo8563
      @aldoarredondo8563 Před rokem +2

      I have a 2020 Jeep Gladiator all this technology really makes it a horrible experience. I also have a 2000 Silverado 4.3L V6 230k runs like a top.

    • @Maverick09171
      @Maverick09171 Před rokem +3

      Horsepower and emissions. Your engine is probably 100-150hp less and todays cars burn a ton cleaner than even 20 years ago. But yeah mileage isn’t all that impressive in new vehicles.
      HP, low emissions, fuel economy. You can have 2 but not all 3.
      Oh and don’t forget to consider safety and comfort. Those things end up adding a ton of weight, that diminishes any mpg gains that would be present.

  • @davestvwatching2408
    @davestvwatching2408 Před rokem +1

    The car manufacturers never let on what particular truck they use to post the EPA numbers. The 18/21/19 could have been a short bed regular cab with highway tires and you're testing a crew cab? (can't tell).

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      I don't believe most manufacturers would do that for risk of an investigation. As we've seen, some have gotten in trouble for overstating numbers.

    • @davestvwatching2408
      @davestvwatching2408 Před rokem

      @@CarsMadeSimple The EPA site only shows differences for the Trail Boss (all-terrain tires) or between 4WD/2WD. I suppose Chevrolet could just claim they tested their most popular model.

  • @josephbreen9955
    @josephbreen9955 Před rokem +1

    So is that the 2nd generation 8 speed or is it the horrible original 8speed they that have had so much trouble with?

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      This is not the Gen 2 8 speed from what I can tell. Not to say they didn't improve it in some fashion over time but the Colorado/Canyon will have the Gen 2.

    • @steveknight9254
      @steveknight9254 Před rokem

      @@CarsMadeSimple can you comment on the shift quality of that first gen transmission? I did hear you say the 10 speed does shift smoother. How was it from 1-2 and 2-1? That and the shudder are the issues that crop up over time. I’m waiting to see how that second gen 8 speed does over time as gm has claimed they have addressed a lot of the issues with gen 1. Time will tell.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      @@steveknight9254 The main outlier of shift quality (abnormal) was the 2-1 downshift. It wasn't all the time but did happen fairly often. None of the other shifts seemed harsh or problematic but the 10 speed was smoother all around.

    • @steveknight9254
      @steveknight9254 Před rokem

      @@CarsMadeSimple I appreciate your reporting that. If it’s shifting like that new then it will only get worse as time goes on. To keep it in perspective, Realistically it’s only a qualitative or ashthetic “problem” that won’t strand you or let you down but I know it would bug me after plunking down 53,000$ for a new vehicle. I wasn’t sure if the 2023 that you test drove would have the “old” or new updated transmission. I guess it’s too early for that. I’ll be very interested how the “new” 8L90 in the new Colorado/Canyon drives and shifts. Certainly GM is promising that it is greatly improved. Time will tell. Thanks again, a good comprehensive review with most factors considered.

  • @musicmanjewj
    @musicmanjewj Před rokem

    I have a 2022 2.7l silverado with a little over 5,000 miles and I average about 440 miles per tank. I get upwards of 24mpg on highway and between 19-20 in the city. I can't complain about the mpg considering I had a 6.2 trial boss that maybe got 14mpg on a good day 😂

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      That would be a nice "upgrade" in terms of MPG! Haha

    • @thomasmcghee2468
      @thomasmcghee2468 Před rokem

      Not missing the 6.2?

    • @musicmanjewj
      @musicmanjewj Před rokem

      @@thomasmcghee2468 I do miss certain aspects of the trail boss but nothing to do with the motor other than the nice sound it gave while reving the engine and idling. I Mainly miss the interior (leather) and exterior (look). The extra two inch lift became more of a hassle as driving it felt like you were jumping all over the place with every bump and turn you took. constantly having to turn off the stop/start feature was a pain also as there were times It struggled to crank up after stopping so turning it off every drive was irritating. I'm now coming up on 10,000 miles and at the moment I've loved having the 2.7l. It's not overpowered and I don't feel its underpowered if I'm being honest. While I have awhile to go in determining if it will give me a good 100-200k worth of miles. As of right now I have no concerns with the motor or anything for that matter. The interior is decent and the updated entertainment screen is fantastic. The ride is smooth and I like not bouncing around. While I wish it was cheaper for sure I'm not sure we will see trucks of that size become cheaper in the future so I figured I'd buy in now and hope for the best.

  • @rachelearles8768
    @rachelearles8768 Před rokem +1

    Can u use regular unleaded or does it need to be premium for this truck?

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +3

      The truck is designed for 87

    • @rachelearles8768
      @rachelearles8768 Před rokem +1

      ​@@CarsMadeSimplecan it hit the full horsepower and torque potential that gm claims with 87? Thanks. Heard some conflicting info. Appreciate the help

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      @@rachelearles8768 The engine and tune is designed for full power on 87. This is straight from the engineering team that designed the engine. They have confirmed this many times during their Chevy Colorado press events.

    • @rachelearles8768
      @rachelearles8768 Před rokem

      @@CarsMadeSimple thanks so much!!

  • @brandonpaco5494
    @brandonpaco5494 Před rokem

    Regular or Premium gas for the 2.7L 4 Cyl 2023 Silverado???

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      The 2.7 is tuned for 87

    • @phreddy22
      @phreddy22 Před rokem

      …tuned for “at least” 87. Just bought 2023 Colorado Z71 and considering using 89 to 91 octane. I just can’t rationalize 87 in a turbo!

  • @tonycolca2241
    @tonycolca2241 Před rokem +1

    The 2.7 is a very sophisticated engine triple cam phasing turbo etc. Given all that it doesn't impress what a shame.

    • @nookbandit
      @nookbandit Před rokem +1

      I believe it’s called lipstick on a pig

  • @Mrjochoa90
    @Mrjochoa90 Před 8 měsíci

    What kind of gas yal use on the 2.7?

  • @Lorde360
    @Lorde360 Před rokem

    does GM have any statement on getting more power out of it with 91

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      No, actually maintained that the 2.7 HO was designed around 87 octane fuel during the Colorado launch. If you ask the engineers, they might tell you that higher octane won't hurt anything but in terms of performance it is likely minimal at best.

    • @Lorde360
      @Lorde360 Před rokem

      Thanks!

  • @ronladuke7235
    @ronladuke7235 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Idling makes a dramatic difference in fuel economy.

  • @hectortoledo5914
    @hectortoledo5914 Před rokem +2

    I dont get it i get 23-24 mpg on the highway

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      That sounds great! I didn't do any solely highway tests which appear to be when this engine gets its best MPG.

  • @dross1492
    @dross1492 Před rokem +2

    This seems shocking. A 4 banger costing $50,000? Shut off at stopping? Getting 15 mph?

  • @tonycking0121
    @tonycking0121 Před rokem +7

    53000$ what a joke.

  • @SwagSo7fly7
    @SwagSo7fly7 Před rokem

    Yea I’ll stick with my 22 tundra v6 twin turbo and doing the same calculation I’ve been getting about 17.8 on 34 inch tires

    • @parkerdeamer5721
      @parkerdeamer5721 Před rokem +1

      U have no front tow hooks.... what truck doesnt come with tow hooks... 😅 u pretty much bought a jap ford.

  • @Pitviper1979
    @Pitviper1979 Před rokem

    It seems to depend on ethanol content of the fuel and if the area you are in has a winter gas mix. Summer mix and less ethanol shows far better mileage.

  • @CleanCutLawnsK2
    @CleanCutLawnsK2 Před rokem +1

    Wonder what that full-size truck is gonna be worth in 8 or 10 years with that 4 cylinder, vs one with a V8.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +3

      It's a valid question. The oldest variants we have to show are 2019's (Lower output) but I would assume they will stay fairly close until a certain point in which the V8's might become slightly more desirable. The lower output 2.7 truck might depreciate more due to less power also compared to the HO versions. Just my opinion though.

    • @chanoleyva
      @chanoleyva Před rokem +1

      Well considering that is direct injected only it will carbon up fast. Not to mention turbo charged direct injected engines are much more maintenance intensive it depends

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Před rokem +1

      You are not asking the right question; what will any ICE vehicle be worth in 10 years ? Mostly scrap prices. My 2000 Silverado 1500 will be 32 years old then and I'll be 90.

    • @dutch4117
      @dutch4117 Před rokem +1

      @@chanoleyva Have you seen any real world examples of the 2.7s carboning up? I ask because I know GM starting putting a “pre separator” in their turbo engines sometime after 2016. Basically an internal catch can. I’ve looked but haven’t been able to find any for these specific engines.

  • @christopherhursey4118
    @christopherhursey4118 Před měsícem

    I have gotten over 500 miles on a tank driving 55 mph on highway

  • @SebastianRosaEmery
    @SebastianRosaEmery Před 11 měsíci

    Why u don’t use premium gas?

  • @toml7113
    @toml7113 Před rokem

    Just drove one 50 miles on board said 24-25 6 miles on truck 2023

  • @Tom-ic7hw
    @Tom-ic7hw Před rokem

    most people I talk to are more worried about engine/ trans life than mpg

  • @Eddie-yc5yd
    @Eddie-yc5yd Před 10 měsíci +1

    If financed, payments around 1k a month. They can keep them.

  • @jhagen4850
    @jhagen4850 Před rokem +5

    I found this video searching for MPG for the new GMC Canyon, Chevy Colorado, which will use the same 2.7L engine.
    I've researched this engine quite a bit. The cam shaft and turbo inlet design seems impressive. But the compression ratio that the engine produces seems less than impressive. I own a Mazda with a 2.5L naturally aspirated 4cylinder engine. If you look at what Mazda has done they're to the point where their gasoline engines are approaching the compression levels of compression ignition (diesel) engines. They use a number of improvements to achieve this performance, from fully variable valve actuation, novel cylinder head design, and injection swirl control. I believe the compression ratio for Mazda's current 2.5L engines is between 13-14 and the 2.7L GM is around 10.
    Now, I'm not an engine designer and there could be design reasons that GM can't achieve this same compression ratio with their 2.7L turbo engine. But I don't understand GM is adding a turbo to their engine and getting a lower compression ratio than a non-turbo Mazda (Or Toyota for that matter).
    Again, not a designer so it's possible I'm missing something and they're using the turbo to increase fuel consumption to permit the high power and torque figures you see for this vehicle.
    I would be curious if you could re-map the engine programming and get significantly better engine performance.
    The other issue with these trucks is their weight and drag profile. Regardless of how much you improve the engine tech you're still starting and stopping a nearly three ton mass at every stoplight. It makes NO sense in 2022 not to be doing inline hybrid assist on all trucks. Ford does this with the Maverick and prices it the same as their turbo engine, telling me that the cost of the additional motor, small battery and electronics is not prohibitive.
    The other issue is drag. Power required to drive on the highway is going to be proportional to drag coefficient (Cd), vehicle cross section (sq ft) and the SQUARE of velocity. Air density is also in there, but let's ignore that. So when you have a truck with a huge cross section and a Cd of around 0.45-0.5 (compared to a Model S of 0.25 or something) you're bound to pay a penalty at highway speeds.
    The point is that if people really want fuel economy we don't need just hybridization for in-town fuel economy optimization, we need manufacturers to take that Cd value seriously. We need some creativity to give these trucks more angles without sacrificing the menacing truck look that everyone loves.

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 Před rokem +2

      Not an engineer, but doesnt lower compression mean less stress and better longevity?

    • @jhagen4850
      @jhagen4850 Před rokem

      @@jakes5530 Mechanical stress is defined as force per unit area. Material tensile and compressive strength is a property of metals and generally becomes lower with fatigue. Fatigue is a function of cyclic loading and for most varieties of steel there is generally a known limit to how much strength is reduced after x number of loadings.
      If you have an engine that generates more force per stroke (indication of greater efficiency) then you design for an equivalent amount of stress by increasing the denominator of the equation, mainly unit area, e.g. make your engine drive components larger in diameter.
      So in short, no. In 2022 longevity is a function of design and unrelated to compression ratio. Honestly with the tools avaiilable today from advanced CAD and 3D FEM it would be shocking to me in any motor in any truck didn't outlast the other wear components by a large margin.
      It's amazing to me how little people understand how SI motors have been revolutionized by electronics. I believe Mazda has around 150 patents around its Sky-Active X technology, many relating to novel ways to sense engine conditions and control flow and cams using advanced electronics.
      It's also amazing to me how many people think old technology like V8s or even V6s is better or more reliable. Apparently these people have forgotten the days when issues with head gaskets, cam timing and ignition components was commonplace. Computers and advances in hardware in loop testing have made these things a chapter in history for the most part.
      There may be harmonic benefits to using an I-4 engine, but when it comes to power and torque it would probably make a lot of sense to move to two or three cylinder engines. A lot of these horsepower and torque numbers are just for marketing and I doubt the vast majority of owners will ever get into situations where these mappings are ever even realized in actual driving.
      My 2 cents.

    • @jhagen4850
      @jhagen4850 Před rokem +1

      I'll add that even the 2.7L 4 cylinder Chevy Colorado for 2023 advertises that it has cylinder deactivation technology, so in many situations it will already be a 2 cylinder engine that's dragging along the dead mass of 2 extra pistons.

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 Před rokem

      @@jhagen4850 thanks for the reply, you seem very knowledgeable on the topic. So in short, would you buy one?

    • @cheeng1
      @cheeng1 Před rokem

      GM and other manufacturers primary concern (over everything) is selling vehicles, not chasing the absolute best MPG. There is a multitude of vehicle objectives that all build into the final product. While everyone wants great MPG, truck buyers are targeting looks, payload, tow capability, longevity, comfort, and then mpg (whatever order, but MPG is last). Folks heavily focused on MPG are not shopping trucks and SUVs. The laws of physics can't be bent, a big truck will always get ~ 1/2 the mpg of a small car. All that said, the 2.7L is something for the EPA and commuters who need occasionally need a truck's capability. The newly tuned 2.7L gets ~ 430 ft-lb torque which is very impressive. But as the truck is essentially a big, heavy block even with a perfectly tuned engine, it will be limited to ~ 18-23 mpg. The only meaningful way to get better MPG is achieve is a step change in ICE or the driveline, and both are very mature technologies. GM's Active Fuel Management/Dynamic Fuel Management (V8-V6-V4) technology is proving not reliable and costly. Hybrid, natural gas, hydrogen are the most likely next steps.

  • @MrJEEPJT
    @MrJEEPJT Před rokem +1

    If this engine was “4” cylinders all the time without that sliding cam…. And “DUAL” fuel injection so as to clean the intake valves I’d consider it. There’s so many videos about carbon build up on the intake valves due to direct fuel injection. Toyota Tundra dual fuel injection from the beginning.
    Ford F-150 I believe only Dual fuel injection since “2017” models. 🧐🧐 Did GM engineers think this design would be immune to fouled up Intake valves?????
    GM Engineers make this an honest “4” cylinder engine no deactivation Dual fuel injection or just The fuel injection in front of the intake valves

  • @luisrodriguez7215
    @luisrodriguez7215 Před rokem +2

    I have a 2022 Silverado Trail Boss and get 18-19 mpg city and 20-21 mpg hwy with a 2” lift and off road tires. If you let any vehicle sit with engine running for 60 minutes your mpg goes to hell.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      Over an entire tank of gas, 60 minutes is an very small amount of fuel. For example, the F-150 Powerboost uses about 1 gallon of fuel when in generator mode and fully loaded with 7.2kw of power being distributed.

    • @mickeybrumfield764
      @mickeybrumfield764 Před 3 měsíci

      Your right on idling that long is going to affect the fuel economy drastically. It is a brand new truck. It's not a real-world test it is not going to get its best gas mileage until it is broken in. Watch the trucks' estimated mpg while you sit idling. You will see how muc it goes down.

  • @Johnny-vu7db
    @Johnny-vu7db Před měsícem

    Disappointing numbers. My '98 5.7 Vortec gets 15-16mpg. Do I really want to spend $53k on a truck that saves 1-2mpg?

  • @6SPDLS162
    @6SPDLS162 Před rokem +1

    To hell with the MPG. 53k for the cheapest trim!!! I own a 19’ Silverado 5.3 and I love it but the prices these days

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      This is not the cheapest trim but the cheapest LT Crew Cab 4x4. You can always get the W/T and Custom trucks for less however you do not get the updated interior.

  • @andrewthacker114
    @andrewthacker114 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice pickup, be nice if they did a diesel

  • @danbablinskas1503
    @danbablinskas1503 Před rokem

    That is disappointing. I'm getting about 15 city and 17 hwy in my 2011 5.3 in winter driving.

  • @RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS
    @RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS Před rokem

    I had to go when you said the shiterado was reliable🤣

  • @bryanakaelchap0298
    @bryanakaelchap0298 Před rokem

    Im averaging 13.8 on mine

  • @pyromedichd1
    @pyromedichd1 Před rokem

    I get that kind of mileage with my 2009 Silverado 5.3 with 190k+ miles and the AFM deactivated in the same type of driving. I think I'll wait for the new V-8 GM is working on.

  • @joeraptor1
    @joeraptor1 Před rokem +1

    The poor fuel economy of this generation of trucks has a lot to do with the big and bulky design of the Silverado/Sierras. The hood and body is like a big block. The trucks look to be the same size of single axle dump trucks from the 1980s. This creates a lot of wind resistance and forces the motor to work harder to push the truck through. I drive a 2010 Sierra with the 5.3 and 6 speed. In the city, I get about 15 mpg (16L/100 km). My dad drives a 2019 Silverado with the 5.3 and 8 speed. When I've taken his truck out and driven the same routes, the fuel economy is 13 mpg (18L/100 km) and you feel way more wind resistance. The 8 speed automatic also probably has some blame as well since it never seems to shift smoothly. Compare that to the F150 which has a much more compact design and is lower to the ground. My friend drives a 2021 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and gets 18 mpg (13L/100 km). The 2.7 turbo 4 works well in something like the Canyon/Colardo but it's probably too small for a full size truck. It's too bad GM didn't turn the 4.3 V6 into a turbo. That would probably have been a much better solution and a better competitor to the Ecoboost. Also, if GM made their trucks more compact and lower to the ground and with hoods that slope down like they used too, you would see much better fuel economy figures in my opinion.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Před rokem

      You could always buy a Tesla Cyber Truck when they are available.

  • @mkennisebc
    @mkennisebc Před 10 měsíci +1

    Iowa?

  • @moriver1
    @moriver1 Před 6 měsíci

    My 2.7 gets 2 MPG better than my 5.3 and when towing the exact same trailer and load it blows the 5.3 out of the water.

  • @parkerdeamer5721
    @parkerdeamer5721 Před rokem

    If you doing 80mph + then ya ur MPG with be awful 😅 here in canada the highest speed limit is 63mph... or 100km/h if you drive slower you will get much better mpg . I get 23 to 28mpg on the hwy with warm ups about 18 to 20 in the city. I had a 2020 3.5 EcoBoost and this 2.7 is better MPG by 25% I'd get tops 22mpg in the ecoboost. This 4 banger is impressive

  • @deceaseda7x22
    @deceaseda7x22 Před rokem +5

    "i couldve gotten a V8" *smacks face. So i glad I didnt buy into the whole 4 cylinder mumbo jumbo.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +2

      I don't believe my results are representative of a long term average. I would rather have the 2.7 from a performance/driving dynamic if it was paired to the 10 speed. As it sits with an 8 speed, it's a tough choice but I still might lean 2.7 over the 5.3.

    • @joshtaylor1416
      @joshtaylor1416 Před rokem

      Have fun with lifters

  • @atomrider22
    @atomrider22 Před rokem +3

    I WOULDN'T BUY IT AT HALF THE PRICE.

  • @jimparker7778
    @jimparker7778 Před 8 měsíci

    Half ton trucks are built for the work they can do, not the mileage they get.

  • @jakes5530
    @jakes5530 Před rokem +2

    Generally speaking, I like your videos, especially this 2.7 Silverado series. But I gotta say, who cares about city mpg? You can drive a tiny non-turbo compact crossover like my fiancé does and still get 15 mpg around town. Other mpg videos on strictly highway commute testing have shown 25+ MPG at ~70 mph. That's where it actually matters.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      Stay tuned! We did a highway MPG test with this exact truck. 🙂

  • @jdcarguy1242
    @jdcarguy1242 Před rokem

    Slap a tonneau on that truck! You'll like the results!

  • @bobmclemore
    @bobmclemore Před 10 měsíci

    19 with my 2500 Cummins😅

  • @hanzhenry5818
    @hanzhenry5818 Před rokem

    I'm sorry.. I reported this video in error. Smart TV remote is clunky.. was trying to change playback speed and the next choice is report, instead of backing out, I picked I reason..and it submitted..jumped on phone to at least apologize..
    Please copy this and send it with response to my report. I didn't even see what the reason was it happens to fast.
    My bad..

  • @speederz1
    @speederz1 Před rokem +2

    so the 4 CYL engine is junk....tahoe V8 gets 19MPG

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      Not necessarily. It may take time to break in and/or depends on what type of driving you do. If you do more highway/interstate, it may surpass 20 MPG with ease. The Tahoe is also more aero friendly than a truck with an open bed.

  • @georgecostanza2695
    @georgecostanza2695 Před rokem

    Ouch! That’s not good.

  • @GYPSY400
    @GYPSY400 Před rokem

    MPG test on a new engine means nothing.. give it 4 or 5k miles and it should get better.

  • @DukeMitchell.223
    @DukeMitchell.223 Před 9 měsíci

    I see camshaft phaser failures, boost leaks, detonation, improper AFRs, cooked engine oil, bunked passages no 100k mile engine possible with this grenade.

  • @ec6933
    @ec6933 Před rokem +3

    I get better mileage in my 2002 crew cab Duramax 😂

    • @Lorde360
      @Lorde360 Před rokem

      you do? i'm only getting 18 on mine. You must drive slow as a snail to get those numbers.

    • @ec6933
      @ec6933 Před rokem

      ​@@Lorde360 he got 15?...

  • @dannyblasucci5562
    @dannyblasucci5562 Před rokem

    You don’t buy a truck for mileage. I pull a trailer daily and happy with my 12 MPG

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem

      That's good that you are using it for work. Most people don't pull a trailer the vast majority of the time.

  • @teagreen2220
    @teagreen2220 Před rokem

    Stop start on a turbo car will be a unbelievable headache for all owners if they allow it to be utilized. Turbos will not take well to this idea, it goes against proper turbo engine engineering. Good luck, you should redo the ecu and get a turbo timer to help your engine.

  • @mikemissouri5152
    @mikemissouri5152 Před rokem +2

    So the 5.3 beats it in real world driving. What a joke

  • @careyscriven9601
    @careyscriven9601 Před 10 měsíci

    Ok yes it’s a truck. But my 5.9 Cummins Dually does 13 litres per hundred empty and 18 while towing anything. I’ll stick with my diesel.

  • @Elsanta666
    @Elsanta666 Před 6 měsíci

    YOU NEVER EVER WANT A SMALL ENGINE IN A PICK UP TRUCK IT WON'T LAST YOU..UNLESS IS A SMALL DEISEL ENGINE

  • @goldblueberries326
    @goldblueberries326 Před rokem

    Such a waste of R & D . Mpg is a "big oil" scam. Big oil makes sure the mpg never will go up to lock in their greedy profits

  • @christopherarmstrong2095

    No real truck guy will choose a 4cyl over a 5.3.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +1

      I am no truck guy but I enjoyed driving the 2.7 much more.

    • @prestigehauling7150
      @prestigehauling7150 Před rokem

      I didn’t notice a difference driving a 5.3 elevation to a 2.7. You have more torque in the 2.7 so in my opinion it actually feels more quick to the pedal.

    • @luisrodriguez7215
      @luisrodriguez7215 Před rokem

      My last three Silverado’s have had the 6.2 all 4x4 and I can tell you that this 2.7 Turbo on my Trail Boss is amazing, and I’ve owned and driven trucks for 35 years.

    • @tattoomagic6110
      @tattoomagic6110 Před rokem

      I own a construction Company, I only announce that because it seems like you were one of them people that need qualifications to be a “real man” and I can tell you my 2.7 pulls everything I need it to. I also own a F-350 7.3 and I can honestly say I enjoy my 2.7 more overall. I only use the F-350 to pull mini excavators now.

  • @charlescasey9799
    @charlescasey9799 Před rokem

    4 cylinder is cheaper to buy

  • @milemarkermike7234
    @milemarkermike7234 Před rokem +1

    Interesting! My suburban 5.3 litre gets 20. Ford made the mistake of adding turbo's and it is kicking their bottom line. Stay aspirated no turbo or engine mangagement system and they will go over 300,000. Look at toyota. Their Tundra got rid of the v-8 and went with a v-6 added turbos and the reliability factor went thru the floor. Cars cost too much as it is. Do your homework. Every time you buy a new car to get better gas mileage comes back and bites you in increase maintenance costs over the long haul. 5.3 v-8 gets better than that. That's what I'm saying. GM has a class action law suit on the v-8 engine management system because they were hard pressed to make 150,000 miles. I'm sure this won't make that because they are working way harder pulling a big vehicle with a small engine. Spend the money on the 5.3. Guarantee you're going to spend more than the $3,000.00 replacing this engine. Remember! Class action lawsuit. It's only a matter of time when their is a class action lawsuit on this one.

    • @Sheepleton
      @Sheepleton Před rokem

      The 5.3 drops lifters and grenades, has been for years. Many Chevy V8's don't live till their first oil change. Ford hasn't suffered at all by going to turbos. Every damn million mile tractor trailer on the road uses a turbo. Maybe you shouldn't give advice when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

  • @jefflauracook
    @jefflauracook Před 16 dny

    20.000 to much!!!

  • @clashwithmoi8926
    @clashwithmoi8926 Před 9 měsíci

    Why even do the test? This was pointless

  • @seankadar9550
    @seankadar9550 Před rokem +29

    It’s A Truck!!!!!! For crying out loud. You don’t buy a TRUCK for fuel economy. Cripes you dam grocery getters and 5 time a year towers. Please stop with the BS. Trucks are designed for two things only, to haul stuff and tow stuff. That’s it. They are tools used to make money for people all over the world and proudly in America. I’m a proud Chevy man. The 4cyl is a great option. Don’t believe me well go and hook a 9000 pound trailer up to one and then do the same with the 5.3. Torque is king with towing. That’s what gets you moving. Buy a diesel if fuel economy is your main concern. Very good video BTW. Rant is not towards you.

    • @CarsMadeSimple
      @CarsMadeSimple  Před rokem +3

      Make sure to check out the towing test we did between the two!

    • @seankadar9550
      @seankadar9550 Před rokem

      @@CarsMadeSimple Just watched it. Great video. Thank you

    • @williamanderson4153
      @williamanderson4153 Před rokem +6

      I owned a 2018 5.3 for 5 years and just got a 2023 2.7 I’ll tell you what the 2.7 is just better in my honest opinion all around.

    • @carsonking3798
      @carsonking3798 Před rokem +2

      Well, if overall cost of ownership doesn’t matter at all to you then sure. If like most people, you actually like your money then MPG should matter when shopping for any vehicle, truck or not.

    • @charlesjacksoniii8787
      @charlesjacksoniii8787 Před rokem +1

      I would like how it tows a lawn service trailer

  • @moejoe55
    @moejoe55 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Was pleasantly surprised to get 26 hwy mpg on my 2023 LT recently

  • @B-rad303
    @B-rad303 Před rokem

    Why would GM even do this? A 2.7L in a full size truck..I'd just get the 3.0 Diesel. Better mileage and waaaaaay more usable power.

  • @chanoleyva
    @chanoleyva Před rokem +2

    Real men would get the v8