NOT YOUR FATHER'S HARBOR FREIGHT! Powerful Icon Series T8 Scan Tool Unbox and Overview
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Come along as we check out the BRAND NEW Icon T8 Scan Tool that @harborfreight sent us and WOW do you need to see this scan tool!
This is not you Father's Harbor Freight - this T8 is a solid addition to any DIYer's toolbox or a garage owner looking for something to handle the rigors of daily vehicle diagnostics and repair.
Built on solid hardware and running Android 10 the T8 will last you for many years to come; with support for domestic and global brands this is sure to be your go to for that next pesky check engine light or customer asking for their car to be fixed in a hurry.
Be sure to check out the T8 Scan Tool here with a NOTE of these will be for sale on Harbor Freight's website in very early January, and in stores soon after:
www.harborfreight.com/icon-di...
Note: This scan tool was provided free of charge by Harbor Freight in exchange for a honest review by Fresh Vintage Garage. Harbor Freight was not given pre-release review of this video, and all thoughts and opinions expressed here are solely those of Fresh Vintage Garage. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I have the old one Zürich , it works , just programming. Keys paid for it , from Honda fit to Ford fusions it works. I will get this one too. Thank you.
This is awesome. I’m looking forward to picking one up.
Thanks for checking out the Icon T8 and Fresh Vintage Garage! These go on sale on Harborfreight.com starting 1/4/24 and in stores on 1/15/24 👍
What a very nice and concise review. We have an Autel and Snap on Versus at work. For the money this has been a great back up/ extra scanner. It is very intuitive and continues to surprise us as to functionality.
The majority of my tools and tool storage is Icon. I will be getting one of these real soon.
It will go well with other Icon tools etc. thanks for watching and subscribing!
This is exciting! Looking forward to seeing the T7 and the T10! Thanks for the awesome video! I look forward to purchasing one in the near future!
You can get the Icon T8 on Harborfreight.com starting 1/4/24 too!
Just got it some stores have it. Used a 25% off coupon.
Whats the tech support and and updates like on this?
Can’t wait to order mine next week!
Let us know what you think!
Definitely looks like it's worth a shot. Even as a DIY I have been debating a scan tool for a few years.
The interface seems confusing, but if you can click on a dtc and it pulls up that code in identifix that's a big plus
Greg thanks for watching! Quick update here - the T8 uses Code Assist software from Identifix to show most common fixes for each code, but this is within the scan tool and not on Identifix's site 👍
I GOT THE SCANNER IM VERY IMPRESSED
Can i use this tool to do the fine tuning on the timing for a vortec 350 distributor install like snap on? And obviously other things like distributor timing
Per Icon yes these can be adjusted.
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What I need to know is in the 2019 chevy silverados when you do the brakes will this reset it so it don’t have to go to to dealer because when you do them the dash goes haywire
Hi there thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! This will reset electronic parking brakes if that's the brakes you are referring to 👍
You hit on a very valix point. I bought the Autel MX808 (pro I think) and it's so painfully SLOWWW that I don't even use it. Used it like 4 times and now it just sits in the case on a shelf. I should sell it but I dunno I may need it for something my cheap one can't do. I'll definitely check out Icons T8 for sure.
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! We've tested so many scan tools and some of them are so painfully slow which prompted me to mention that in the video here 👍
The Icon T8 goes on sale on harborfreight.com starting January 4th, and in stores on January 15th!
I have the mp808 autel and its pretty good.
With this tool can you access tcm live data and control shift solenoids and stuff like that in the transmission? ie: tcc lockup solenoid and clutch slippage data. Stuff like that? Or is it just engine diagnostics
Per Icon it will do all of the above transmission diagnostics!
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These are just launch rebranded scan tools, but the free 2 year subscription to identifix is definitely a nice touch.
I pay $200 a month for identifix. If this comes with 2 years of the full site it is a no brainer. I’m going to look into that.
yes. little concerned about the fact it says identifix AND diag software. so does that mean with no subscription the scanner is a paperweight?
@@galacticdaddy96 it says “powered by identifix repair assist” and you get 2 years free. So that means after 2 years there is a subscription fee. Also it doesn’t look like you get full identifix.
Yea I was referencing timestamp 2.37 at the bottom. Marketing should change the wording if that is the case lol
Yes what you said here 👍
Harbor Freight rocks
Definitely upping their scan tool game in 2024!
Can you change the shift points and/or timing, etc.
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! You would need a programmer for that 👍👍
can this do the relearn procedure for say a throttle body, electronic throttle control/ gas peddle.
It can.
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Do you think this thing can program new valvebody info into the ecu/tcm or is it only the ford ids software that can do it?
Talking to Icon. They want to know more information about the vehicle. Year, make and model please.
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@@FreshVintageGarage 2013 ford f150 raptor, thank you!
I see it has identifix. Is it the full blow wiring diagrams and service info or just suggested fixes?
Hi there - this is the Code Assist data from Identifix and not an entire subscription thanks so much 👍
Would this scanner be able to calibrate vgt turbo actuators on Cummins, duramax, ford?
Yes the T8 will calibrate those actuators.
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does it have to be updated yearly and does it cost? Do I need to update if im just using it on older vehicles?
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! Harbor Freight will provide firmware updates for this unit for a while (years to come), and the software updates for OEMs will be 2 years minimum. After the 2-year mark vehicles will still scan, however for brand new model year vehicles you would possibly see a fee for the most up-to-date software to be downloaded and installed (for OEM specific software) - standard OBD2 code reading should be fine until the end of time so to speak 👍
What’s the cost of the updates after 2 years
Is there a way you could get heavy duty programs on that
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Based on what we have seen the T8 will only do OBD2 based code scanning, and my guess is an upper limit of 350/3500 and 450/4500 series trucks. Heavy duty requiring specialized connectors for each OEM (Volvo/Mack) will not be possible with the T8 👍
Can t 8 program things, keys, windows, etc. Can it cylinder balance test
It will program certain keys and relearn window settings. It will also do a cylinder balance test.
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Maybe a dumb question but does this reset annual service intervals on motorcycles? I know the SnapOn does and the dealer charges $200-$300 to reset the service light after I do the maintenance.
Thanks for watching! I do not believe so but feel free to email Harbor Freight at ICONDIAGNOSTICS@harborfreight.com to confirm for sure 😊
I own 4 motorcycles and I have need had to have a tool to reset annual maintenance nor have I ever got codes for them……. You must have a special pain in the ass motorcycle different from the rest of the world
Can you verify with your Harbor Fright contact if these Scan tools are compatible with FCA AutoAuth for use on 2017 or newer Chrysler/Fiat cars?
Hi Fernando - quick update of yes this will work with AutoAuth per Harbor Freight 👍
@@FreshVintageGarage I need to know this info also. If it works with the SGM on FCA cars I may get it.
Will do!
It seems like a Launch rebrand, which is nice but a little expensive for the market today. What does the Identifix subscription include? I can't imagine it's a complete subscription that's around 2K a year!
Probably the DIY subscription which is 20 a month for one vehicle but limited access
I have launch, Autel, thinkpro tools , its not anything like a launch
It includes Code Assist. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
So its false advertisement on harbor freight's part. You dont get 2 year of identifix. You get 2 years of code assist.
@@shuaybhanif5882No they are very clear that it’s code assist.
Icon scan tool made by Launch .
You would think but it’s quite different from the Launch line. Thanks for watching and subscribing! 👊👍
@FreshVintageGarage different as in operating system or the actual tool itself? It physically looks the same. Operating system does look different.
Different operating system. I’m not 💯 but I think most of the scan tool is built in house.
😂
It’s not they use the same supplier is all with subtle changes.
Have had nothing but issues with it. Problems with it not communicating, sometimes not picking up basic modules like ABS on certain models. Fighting with the store so I don't have to pay a restocking fee. You know its bad when the dated Matco Maxlite it was bought to replace can still run circles around it while it's being phased out.
does it do the live piston compression test?
It supports cylinder contribution test and power balance tests. If you need more info please email Icon tech support at icondiagnostics@harborfreight.com
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Can this read and display transmission temperature?
Per Icon “We do support and display trans temp parameter readings when provided by the PCM/TCM”
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So what happens when the subscription runs out? Is it bricked unless you renew?
Per TopDon it turns into a code reader after the subscription expires.
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Do you know if this will do the ABS bleeding on the F150's (I think it's 17 and up?) We have a '19 and from what I'm gathering, no ones can because of the IDS (I think that's what it's called?) from Ford? I have tools that can do the abs bleed on my son's Mazda and my '19 Fusion, but nothing touches the F150 :(
We will check the software and let you know!
@@FreshVintageGarageAppreciate that!
Hello thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! The software does show general ABS Bleeding, however we are waiting for HF to reply with an answer now on the 2019 F150 you mentioned 👍
@@FreshVintageGarage seriously appreciate you following up! Thank you.
Can you install Cummins insite or JPRO on this?
This is not an HD scanner.
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Will it program keys? Also tpms?
It will program some keys as it has IMMO access. It doesn’t program TPMS sensors but has a database of factory reset procedures. For specific questions email them at icondiagnostics@harborfreight.com
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Will it have a heavy truck and equipment expansion?
Thanks for watching! Not this specific T8 model sorry will not do heavy truck equipment 👍
Does it have a misfire counter?
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! We didn't see that in the software but it may be there (this thing has TONS of diagnostic software in it) 👍
Does tbis have TCM programming
It does not unfortunately.
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Do you know what the difference between the t8 and t10 will be
@@FreshVintageGarage awesome, thank you I will be getting the t10 when it comes out. Do you know when it’s expected to release
Hi Darin - this is a direct reply from Harbor Freight on the T10: - Some differences between the T8 and T10 models are the larger screen, docking station, wireless battery tester, borescope, topology feature, and repair information feature.
April 2024
Can it program TPMS?
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage and welcome to the channel! The T8 doesn't program TPMS specifically as you would need a separate tool for that, but does gives you factory relearn instructions for each vehicle 👍
How have you liked it so far? Worth the money compared to other scan tools on the market?
Hi thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage and subscribing! ☺️ Honest feedback on the T8 here: Harbor Freight is definitely upping their game with the Icon T8 Scan Tool! Overall it's solid and capable. We were a little disappointed it does not have topology, but also wonder if that will be an exclusive T10 feature. With a little "polish" of the software by Harbor Freight (it's 99% now just needs a tiny bit more polish so to speak so the software is 100% fluid and smooth) and we would put this up against any TopDon, Autel, Snapon, Launch and all the rest of the scan tools out there 💯
@@FreshVintageGarageAt this price it is competing with OtoFix Max, but havent been able to reach OtoFix USA (Autel is parent) for past 2 weeks so the T10 icon having an in-person location, topology, and depending on update cost (~$100 each time?) may well be new budget bidirectional scan tool winner if 25% coupon makes it $900.
So it’s a 900 scan tool for reading things. Interesting my 50 scanner works on a 2020 ram 1500 and I can make changes behind the gateway….
Icon can not get around gateways nor is it part of autel auto
Will this read ethanol % in fuel if the car has the sensor?
Thanks for watching and subscribing! We are checking with harbor freight now on this to be sure.
I work at Ford and all of our newer vehicles (2022 and up) use FDRS which is a cloud based system, do you think this product will work on them? And on the older ones can you do power balance/pids things of that type of nature with this tool? I’m very curious because I’m looking at all options right now because I want my own.
Also speaking on the diesel side of things (mainly what I do) can you run a manual regen of even a def injector flow test? I have so many questions sorry lol I just want to make sure I buy the best product for my needs. Thank you
Per Icon the T8 does not work with IDS. It is capable of doing a power balance test. For further questions I would recommend you email Icon tech help directly at icondiagnostics@harborfreight.com
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Does this one require a subscription just to function? I know almost all in-depth Diagnostic tools have a subscription for updates and the like, but I know Upper-Echelon ones like SNap-On require one just to use some basic functions and thats an automatic no-go for me.
No this does not need a subscription to function - we have used it on multiple vehicles and it has worked well 👍
Then why does the box say 2 year SUBSCRIPTION included?? That would clearly indicate that after 2 years, you're on your own and have to pay for one in the future
@@gr2262 Originally I thought the subscription was just for updates and database stuff for new car information, but now on the product listing on their website it says "Internet Connection Required For All Scanner Functions", which I dont remember seeing before.
That makes me a tad wary, honestly, because it sounds like they'll always want you tethered to servers, which I can never trust from other companies.
He answered your first question which was you asking if you needed a subscription just to function which it doesnt because it will still scan but if your asking about the 2 year subscription after is done you will have to purchase for newer car models@gr2262
After the subscription is expired does it lose some functions of the scan tool like on other tablets
awesome video no topology no update price its a pass
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! No Topology and $899 👍
I would call this a starter scan tool. No one scanner can do everything. All scan tools have holes in the software. Once they get topology on it and decent key programming.
You would not believe how much of a challenge key programming is on scan tools - we've found more than one tool that has key programming listed in the software but did not actually program the key...
@@FreshVintageGarage At this point I would pit it against the Xtool as seen on Amazon and AliExpress
Xtool D9@@FreshVintageGarage
@@FreshVintageGaragedoes THIS Scanner programming Keys? Or security systems?
Front facing camera/ google. Sheep Control on a new level
Will this work on diesel pickups?
Yes it will work on all light duty trucks through the OBD2 port.
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Hi, light duty trucks as in a 2017 f550? @@FreshVintageGarage
Will this scanner proxi calibrat
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure what year make and model you are referring to here, but for in-depth diagnostics capabilities you can reach out to Harbor Freight here - ICONDIAGNOSTICS@harborfreight.com
I want to buy a 2013 Mercedes E 550. A lot of them have low mileage for the age in NC. NC is in the top 10 for clocking. Will the T8 read ECU's (40+ on the 550) stored mileage to confirm the odometer? I'd like the warm and fuzzies before I spend money on Carfaxs and pre-purchase inspections. Plus I can use the T8 for DIY...
Per Icon “We do support reading mileage if and when provided as the modules it’s displayed from can vary. The T8 during the all system code scan will tell you what modules it can detect, see and have access to on the vehicle.”
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So if you work on a lot of Jeep, Ram, Chrysler , you may be disappointed as it isn't on the auto auth listing of approved scan tools
Thanks for checking out Fresh Vintage Garage! If possible can you let me know where you found that information? I am checking on this now and am not seeing the approved scan tool list thanks so much 👍
@@FreshVintageGarage when you go to the portion to add a scan tool , it has a menu of approved tools, you are then prompted to input serial number information etc
This only applies to cars and trucks with a security gateway
@@FreshVintageGarage
Only the ZR pro is in the listing, BTW
Hi there quick update - HF is confirming the T8 will work with AutoAuth 👍👍
How were you able to get hooked up to harbor freight and get sponsored?
We chatted with them at SEMA.
Emission leak tester ?
I believe you are referring to a “smoke tester”? If so that’s a separate tester.
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Can you reprogram a body control module?
Checking with Harbor Freight now ☺️
Anyone else go in hf looking for a cheap tool, see the price difference between Pittsburgh and icon and realize gearwrench and others offer a better quality tool for rhe same or less than icon?
Not a real big fan of gear wrench but to each their own.
Nope, only you
@@wyo_garage20 gearwrench is junk compared to icon and gearwrench will break. Icon has a lifetime warranty.
Is this the same as an Android tablet with an OBD transmitter and an Identifix subscription?
Thanks for checking out the Icon T8 Scan Tool!
This is much more than a ruggedized tablet, and has customized software specific to OBD2 code reading and diagnostic software.
If you haven't seen our full in-depth review video definitely check it out!
We explain and break the scan tool down to show you details on it and then run through the software with a live car code reading and diagnostics 👍
The Identifix question is a two year subscription to the code assist data from Identifix, and not a full subscription.
Still 3/4 through but will this reprogram keyfobs?
Keys are a finicky thing with scan tools - which OEM are you specifically needing? We can check the software in the scan tool thanks 👍
@@FreshVintageGaragecan you check for Ford?
Will do - I'm going to connect with HF tech support to confirm as the scan tool need you to be connected to the Ford/Toyota/etc. before you can access the software features for that vehicle 👍
@@FreshVintageGarage as of right now it would be for mitsubishi smart key/fob with the faux ignition cylinder or push button start.
Hi there - a direct reply to us from Harbor Freight: - Yes, the scanner will reprogram key fobs and can perform this task on most Fords and Mitsubishis.
Many better options out there. Otofix D1 line, TopDon line, thinktool line, Kinbolen line, etc.
What makes them better?
We understand where are you coming from here, but just wait until the Icon T7 and T10 Scan Tools come out - Harbor Freight will then have a serious scan tool for most any price point and customers from DIY'ers up to full shop owners; 2024 is going to be an interesting year for scan tools!
@@mn4a15 They can do more with better hardware for less money. HF is banking on the ignorance of DIYers to buy this.
@@1MiketheMechanic such as don’t be afraid to include examples and evidence
You can purchase a unit half the price with the same or even more functions than the icon !
Which one would that be?
How much is the software update after the 2 year subscription is over?
Unfortunately that won’t be known for another 2 years. Thanks for watching!
I need ro rewatch this when i can hear better bur ill stick to autel at that price.
Subscription cost for Icon T8 is...according to several videos on CZcams will be $600/yr. I hope not correct, too much for DIY.
We won’t know exactly until it has been out for a year but $600 sounds about right. The T8 is geared more for the professional. The T7 coming out early Fall will be more for the heavy DIY.
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Yeah but $50 vs $900. I can afford to throw out the $50 one every year to buy an updated one. My question is... how good are these on EVs? Also, after 2 years, how much is the price to keep it updated.
Hi thanks for watching! Right now the pricing on the software update has not been released yet 👍
its not worth paying $500 a year to update it!!!!!
Is there any scan tool that doesn’t cost to update after the first year 😂
Quite a few actually lol,
Been having a blue driver scan tool for a couple years. Free updates
Can it program TPMS sensors
It won’t program the sensors but has a database of factory relearn procedures.
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No idea who makes the software, it does not look like LAUNCH or AUTEL? No count of modules and no TOPOLOGY which is a must today. Does it show NOT INSTALLED modules which might show not installed if totally DEAD but installed? Is the entire ALLDATA available for the 2 years? What is the face value of ALLDATA for a 2-year subscription? How many Maintenance RESETs, seems to be manual reset instructions only? How many BIDIRECTIONAL controls, needs to be close to 40? Seems like it cannot do TPMS programming as you mentioned manual instructions only, does every vehicle have a manual setup?
I believe that a tool review when a mechanic does not understand the tool to a high degree of knowledge is NO TOOL REVIEW, it takes many vehicles and many weeks of use as a minimum. You mentioned trying it on a few vehicles and you tried ONE. I doubt any module programming can be done without going online and possibly need a VCI adaptor also? You did not mention tech support since you just opened the box. The second half of your video title is fine but comparing it to an older model is wrong as you just got it. Is ADAS turned on or is that an extra payment later? Chinese tools are well known for not giving everything that they show on the screen or the box.
By the time you subtract the value of 2 years of ALLDATA, this tool is not worth much and does not do much from what your video shows, there are much nicer tools available for under $400, cheers.
Maybe in the future, you can do a proper REVIEW video and actually mention the tasks that the tool will not do to be fair. Most CZcamsrs don't want to be honest about the tool's capabilities since it was free and they want more free tools in the future, very unfair to the viewers IMHO.
Your right TOPOLOGY is a absolute must no if or but about it and ALLDATA should be made available to everyone for free sponsored by OEM them self since they no longer provide schematics and data like old days and only make it available to dealers which is all about $$$$.
It uses Identifix, not Alldata.
@@allanb3222 I don't care who it is it should be made able for free by the manufacturers instead of them nickel and diming us
@@SHSPVR It was for the Op not you.
@@allanb3222 ok then you should reply to him with @DuaneDonaldson
Sweet
It is!
Looks like someone got a paycheck. LOL
You mean someone would spend their paycheck on this right? We received $0 from Harbor Freight to make this video 👍
This definitely looks like a rebranded Launch scanner or a Thinkcar scanner made for HF for the Icon brand! Till this day nothing is more solid than the high quality Topdon scanners especial the Topdon Phoenix Plus at around the same price as this one with Topology which this scanner doesn't have and cheaper on e. bay or full price of $1,300 on ama.zon. Topdon is solid for any Master mechanic!
It is. Just on the lower level
Topdon has alot of issues. I have 2 and they lose all there info and I have to re-download it all the time. Not impressed.
Had a topdon returned it no problem with my Amazon launch
@@wildeauto34 Seems you got the Chinese version with English language. Must be the USA version. Mine works flawless and have fixed plenty of BMW issues and coded plenty of modules with ease!
Woah Boot up time is ridiculously long.
I timed it just now. It took 300 seconds to boot up. Not super fast but not too bad.
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@@FreshVintageGarage5 minutes yeah way to long.
Price?
Not available yet. On sale starting 1/4/24 through the harbor freight website and 1/15/24 in stores.
Just found out from Harbor Freight that the price will be $899.99. Thanks for watching!
@@FreshVintageGarage Oh... pricy for the home use
@@evilmonstertruckarguably pays for its self if you have some expensive sensors
This is part of their Icon professional line so it’s catered to small shops or as a secondary scan tool for bigger shops.
People that complain about harbor freight just repair cars and don’t have project cars 😂
I shop harbor freight so I have more money for even MORE car mods 😂
WILL THIS ICON T8 DO KEYS?????????????????/
Hi there thanks for watching! I would reach out to Harbor Freight at ICONDIAGNOSTICS@harborfreight.com to confirm your specific need as the T8 will handle some immobilization but not all keys 👍
Sorry but you didn’t show anything everyone talk about the same sensor o2 sensor makes no sense, need to show power balance relative compression live data from ftp/fuel rail pressure/maf/vct actual pida that veh have now days and show powerful information and perform actual test and live data if you’re going to promote a scanner not just scroll through screens just saying I know you can do better than this
Hi thanks for watching and checking out Fresh Vintage Garage we do appreciate it!
Unfortunately we're not able to show you a lot of the things you mentioned above unless we actually have a car in our possession that has a check engine light on with these specific issues (believe me we tried to access these things, and unfortunately the software will not allow us to go into any given OEM unless we have the scan tool hooked up to a vehicle with that specific issue going on) 👍
Superb acting.
Thanks! Some of my finest 😂
$900 and no topology?
That is correct no topology from what we saw in the T8, however Harbor Freight confirmed the T10 will have topology as a standard feature.
Um, have you ever seen an autel? They have $1800+ models that do not have topology. Topology is overrated anyways. It's a nice additional feature to have, but is not necessary at all. For decades topology did not even exist and everyone was just fine.
@@victorhoyt4352 yes I know autel but that's autel one of the market leader in the scan tool business so they don't give crap when they know tech's across the country will buy one of their products just because of the name. If harbor freight wants to make a dent it's gotta up the game by offering more at a lower price. But why I brought up the question on why no topology? Is because even the $550 xtool d8 has topology.
@@victorhoyt4352 Hard pass
The new Icon smoke machine is very high quality but lacks a few features and so the Autool SDT-206 destroys it by far in highest quality, price and features!
We all can confirm that the Icon scanner's UI looks very outdated and trash! What scanner loads up and starts on the Android apps home page? My Phoenix Plus goes straight to the eye candy feature menu, heck I don't even know If i can even go to the apps menu but I know it can!