MOVE OVER Focal, B&W! Sonus Faber Speakers - Lumina II Speaker Review!
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If you’ve found this video looking for hifi speaker recommendations, then you are in luck. The new Sonus Faber speakers, the Lumina II, are impeccably built, stylish and have the sound to match. Could they be the best bookshelf speaker to buy? Are they better than Bowers and Wilkins? Watch our Sonus Faber review and find out!
INTRO: 00:00
LUMINA II SPECS & DESIGN: 00:35
ASSOCIATED HIFI EQUIPMENT: 01:45
POWERING THE LUMINA II SPEAKERS: 02:30
SONUS FABER LUMINA II SOUND QUALITY: 03:05
LUMINA II DRAWBACKS: 07:41
FOCAL CHORA 806 COMPARISON: 08:43
B&W 606 COMPARISON: 09:23
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KLIPSCH 600M COMPARISON: 10:30
CONCLUSION: 10:52
END OF REVIEW: 11:31
BONUS CONVERSATION: 11:32
SIGN OFF AND ANNOUNCEMENTS: 24:33
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Great job & is that a SL50 wireless II ? ;-)
@@HPMIKE55 You're looking at the amzn.to/3eOr0hP if you're talking about the background speakers.
The non us speaker that I would like to see your review on is Canton. I am interested in the reference 5K but would love to hear your thoughts on how Canton sound to you both! I used to own some older Canton speakers and really like the sound. Wondering how new ones sound these days with the ceramic tweeter
@@joshdekubber3631 I would love to look at Canton in the future. I reviewed their products about 10 years ago and thought they were great!
@@robinsonbrand I'd be curious Canton vs Focal
Sonus faber are true audiophile speakers. The sound is sublime. Awesome!
Yes they are!
I've got to say, the conversations with Kristi are now a core part of the review for me. I appreciate Kristi's ability to tease out aspects of the review that may have been a bit vague or even not talked about (nothing against you Andrew!). And it's actually refreshing to see some disagreement between your perspectives and hearing how you tease out those differences really helps in understanding the product. The back-and-forth between the two of you is very unique in the review space!
Contagious enthusiasm from both Andrew and Kristi!
I would like to see more Sonus Faber speakers.
Me too. Sonetto 5 or 8s would be great for review. Not cheap but the sound & build quality is wonderful.
Yes!
Sonetto models for sure!! Or even Olympica Nova!! Why not...?!
Agree. I just ordered Sonetto 8’s!
Seriously looking at the Sonetto IIs those or the Focal 906s
Why would anyone thumbs down? Great video and thank you for the work.
Is this your first time here? 😂 😍
Cause they cant afford these;-)
I love how they designed the front bass port on these speakers.
07:44 “The Lumina II absolutely slaps” - that is awesome! Another great Sunday with Andrew and Kristi!
The Lady convinced me and I bought them and I can’t stop smiling. Thank You.
Glad you like them!
What amp have you paired them with?
@@adamlitchfield3371 Technics 600
Phenomenal point by Kristi about the customer service when there is no one helping. Right on point.
As noted in a couple of other comments, Sonus Faber are available for online sale in a number of European countries. The accessibility problem does not seem to lie with the manufacturer directly, but with the distributor/retailer ecosystem in each country. In the UK there are several specialist retailers with both bricks and mortar and significant online sales presence that are supplying SF online and carrying a nearly full range of products. In contrast, in Italy the home of Sonus Faber very few retailers are carrying the Lumina series and nothing online. It seems the Italian retailers don't in general have a volume mindset and existing retailers remain focused on the more expensive, high margin products. Perhaps this is also true in the USA. Some distributors and retailers need to rethink how they deal with Sonus Faber.
Feel super fortunate to have a set of Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor’s which happen to be the last speakers the founder Franco Serblin designed for the company. Those paired with McIntosh is heaven to me.
Great that you actually listened to my recommendation! Sonus Faber is great. I have the beautiful Sonetto V and am really happy. At first I thought I'd go for the BW 702 signature because they sounded better in store, but when I was able to take them both home and compare them the sound of the sonetto was much more pleasing while the 702 could sound a bit harsh and bass lacking. Im driving them with a Vincent Sp-332 amp. Great product which is definitely recommended!
Thanks for sharing your personal experience!
Sonetto’s are just amazing. Love mine.
I'm like Kristi, I love the Luminas II...Clean no hard base for me, beautiful design 😍 I respect and appreciate your work, I identified and can relate.
Just paired these with the Audiolab 9000A and they sing! In my smallish room they are really amazing. Punch way above their price. I compared with other highly rated speakers a fair bit more expensive and these were way more engaging. Glad to see these getting the attention they deserve!
Now that I’m older (61) I need that lift in the tweeters, which is probably why I find a lot of speakers sound a bit dull. I’ll check these out for sure. Not all dealers are created equal.
Definitely more Sonus Faber. I also would love to see Vienna Acoustics reviewed. Great review. The demo of SF I heard at Sumiko (their west coast distributor) was the most amazing soundstage I've ever heard.
Mine came in yesterday and i love them! running them with a Vincent sv-500 great sound in a 12x15 room
Kristi - I love hearing your perspective on these and other speakers. It is great to get 2 points of view.
Instantly a fan of the lumina ..and it's on point for what I enjoy from sound performance. I am going to enjoy building a new system with these =)
Thanks for tuning in! They're really great!
Sonus Faber don’t make enough speakers to compete with B&W and Focal, hence the dealer network sales model. You can buy online in the EU and UK, but their production capacity isn’t big enough to do so globally. Not every manufacturer is interested in volume of sales, some are happy to make a profit and grow at a sustainable rate. I think that Sonus Faber have probably got it right, for their brand.
Wow... Impressive feedback. Rave review from both you and Kristi are rather rare... Must be truly special! Good news is, it's quite easy to find in Europe. I will try them for sure!
Keep on doing this post-review conversation, you guys are great together!
Thank you so much, Raphael Meillat! We appreciate you watching.
Excellent review !! Details, presentation and images, all communicate perfectly !! The associated hardware amps and furnishings adds alot of mojo to this 1st class speaker review. Thanks..
Lovely review! I`m looking forward to the reviews of some of the products you teased us with in this vid 😁
Hi Andrew, great review as always! U guys seriously deserve more subs! Could you give us some reviews or insights on PMC speakers? Just found out we have a local dealer importing them.
Hi Andrew… just managed to purchase a pair over the internet in the UK 🇬🇧
And they are truly beautiful to look at and listen too! 👍
Great review my man you got my attention with your review keep up the good work love all your reviews
Great work guys.....would love to see some Dynaudio speakers on your channel.
I enjoy your revieuws and findings on your channel Also Christy's input on the video's and het love for the Sonus Faber speakers. I recently fell in love with the brand and it's history and am saving up for my first pair of Sonus faber speakers. Probably the Sonetto II. I would love for you to revieuw the Sonetto II and compare your findings with the Lumina series.
Thanks and keep up the great video's.
Stefan Cools, Netherlands
Great review ! I’ve yet to hear the Twos but having heard both the ones and floor standing Threes I’m not surprised That you like them so much ! Sonus Faber prides themselves on workmanship and attention to detail ; one would think they would cut corners with their “budget” line but not so! They share the same tweeter as their higher end series and the build quality is outstanding like all the rest of their lines .
Sonos faber is amazing. I got to listen to the nova 5's yesterday. I don't think I ever heard anything better. The sound stage is unlike anything. Absolutely brilliant. Love this brand.
Great review!
I just auditioned the Lumina 1 and 2
along with new Dynaudio Emit 10 and 20.
If you have a big room to fill the Emit 20
sounded full and beautiful. I was surprised how big they sounded but still retaining stunning detail.
Lumina 2’s highs were a bit too much for me but as you said, they we’re still in control and not harsh.
My room is small so I’m bringing the Emit 10’s home to try out. They still sounded big and incredibly dynamic for such a little speaker.
Interested to see how they compare with my Denton 85ths.
YES! Been asking for Sonus Faber foreeeeeever
Great video Mr Robinson and Cindy, I also appreciate the overall discussion of how this products are distributed and made accessible. Because to enforce your point I'd only encountered one pair of older small Sonus Fabers speakers if not for that particular individual selling I would have not had a chance to experience and have exposure to the brand. It was very enjoyable btw
Great as always. Thanks a lot. Would like to hear your opinion about Usher speakers. I love them.
I am very glad when some new or mostly unknown companies are shaking the hierarchy in the audio community! Some companies like KEF, B&W or Focal are so dominant that sometimes we don't even take the time to search and listen to other brands. Thanks Christie for your input!
Absolutely great and informative review. I would really like to have your comparison with the KEF LS50 speakers I, the background in the video!
I learn so much proper pronunciation from you. I've been saying Sonus FAY-ber since I first read the name in Stereo Review 25 years ago.
I've heard the Lumina II's and agree with your review. Having the Focal Chorus 706 I see your comparison. And to your QOTD, I'd love to see more reviews of Paradigms. These have always been great speakers and have the full line from entry level to true audiophile.
Happy belated birthday and congratulations on achieving 200k subscribers on it. Any chance you can review the Tannoy Ardens?
Day two with my Lumina II matched with NAD C368 and just amazing sound that is clean and inviting you to just keep playing!
Hi David, I'm looking to pair my Lumina II with a NAD C368, I'm wondering if this amplifier is sufficiently powerfull to manage a consequent volume for a 25m2 room, what do you think ?
Hey Andrew, found your channel today and went deep into your past videos. Really great stuff - intelligent, great focus on different price points for your audience, great delivery. Really polished and authentic.
Question: Is the art work on your set/home available anywhere? I loved the piece ms and curious if you could point me to the place you bought them. Moving out of the “ posters in a plastic frame” and would love to get better works on the wall.
Thanks, subbed and loving it.
im new to your channel but kristy or christy said something touched my heart about highend audio salesmen which i used to be many years ago and i always treated all customers the same even if they spent money or not, my goal was to find what they really liked in sound from a speaker even if had to hookup 10 pair with their cds or records, from vandersteen , sonus faber , dali, avanguard, epos, b&w , amps creek, nad , bat vk60-75, classe ca 150, cam 350, conrad johnson , marantz to name a few, i tried to treat customers like i always wanted salesmen to treat me when i was a customer lol!! but sadly shes right about a lot of salesmen , the owner of the store tells me when we talk that not hardly a day goes by that customers dont ask about me and how im doing, for me thats priceless, just thought id share that with your channel, god bless you!
Thanks for the great review and compelling conversation about sales models. Very informative!
Glad it was helpful!
I had the same experience with their Sonetto tower lineup. It surprised me how well it performed coming from a kef LS 50 wireless. I was afraid that it would sound a bit too warm but it had that treble thingy as well as you mentioned with the Lumina. I sold my pair a month ago since it was a little too expensive in the end and sold them. But it was a really nice pair. Definitely, something I am coming back to when I have everything settled.
Hi @Andrew Robinson, great review as usual. You definitely add a touch of class to the hobby. I’m surprised more individuals haven’t requested a review of the Wharfedale Linton Heritage..
Thank you so much, Retro HiFI! Hopefully, we'll be able to bring a review of the Lintons to the channel this year.
Its the crossover point which is lower than many speakers and gives the tweeter more range before activating the other speaker, and of course the style of tweeter that SF uses. Not everyones bag but enjoyable to my ears.
I really enjoy your videos! Pretty much the only sound related channel I avidly follow just because I enjoy the information and the way you portray it, not even looking to buy anything rn.
I have a question, what is your take on a Genelec home theater setup?
Great review I bought them and really enjoy their sound. Paired with McIntosh MA 252. You should review this integrated.
We found you Andrew and love your videos, we have been in the market for a new system and your reviews have been very helpful! We listened to some Sonus Faber’s at a local dealer, first a Sonetto Il, then a floorstanding speaker Sonetto V’s. We have been waiting to purchase while we are remodeling our listening room. I was so thrilled to see you finally review some Sonus Faber speakers, we would love to know what you think of more of the line! The Sonetto’s and the Olympica Novas in particular. We are looking at floorstanding speakers. Have you had the chance to listen to these? We fell in love with the sound, the musicality of these speakers, as well as the craftsmanship. we are not expects by any means, but something about these really speaks to me. Thanks!
Great review. I would love to see a review (if possible!) of the Sonetto line of Sonus faber - especially the Sonetto III tower. Thanks for another great review!
Hi Andrew and Christy, I love your videos and just bought the Lumina 2s as my first real step into the hi-fi hobby and I love them. They even sound great with my old Denon AVR which I need to upgrade as the speakers deserve so much better. I have been thinking about pairing them with the NAD m10 v2, Marantz 40n or the Yamaha RN2000A. The modernness of the NAD is attractive to me (as is the price) but is it not a good pairing compared to the other two?
Outstanding as always and I do love your conversation/outtakes. I'd like to see a Paradigm review. I've been rocking 1st gen Studio 60's & Studio 20's forever and would like to see a review of their newer speakers. Thank you and keep up the great work.
And PSB! Come on! Give the great white north some love!
You nailed it in your review of the sound starting @3:10. This speaker is exciting in a fairly refined way with limited bass.
You are both bang on with getting the listeners early. My father got me a 5.1 set of Focal's for my wedding present (great, right?) and I've been a Focal fan ever since even though they are just Focal 716 tower's, still think they are second only to a pair of these Braun speakers I got for free from 1962. Get 'em early and get a fan for life! I do still think the B&W 802d3's are the best speakers I've ever heard but I can't fit nor afford them. Been trying to scratch that itch for years!
Fantastic review. In fact listing to you and Kristi say so many good things about the Lumina II speakers I had to get them. Fortunately a local audio shop is an authorized dealer of Sonus Faber. But as you went in depth about, not being able to get this brand easily. That being said I have a pair coming in the Wenge finish. Wait for it..... December 17th shipping date.
Here's my wish list: Canada's Totem, France's Cabasse, Poland's Pylon Audio. Enjoy sorting all this out! Cheers! 😀
These speakers are incredibly beautiful
I agree!
Lumina lll's are on my short list. Your spot on with your reference to the Martin Logan. The lll's also lack in the bass/lows. My plan includes a pair of subs so it's non issue for me. The clarity of these speakers is what attracts me the most. To me they compare to a higher price point.
Enjoyable review. Per a local distributor in TX, the II’s are backordered until October, but that may not be the case for everyone. Opted for the Lumina III towers instead with a center channel. First home audio set up - buy nice or buy twice ;)
Excellent review, thank you, and with Sonus Faber you have Chosen an excellent Brand to present. I very much liked Christy’s comment about the hard of hearing 🧏♂️ issue, as I am on this route too.
Is Audiophysics available in the US? I decided for one of their models after comparing them at my dealers to B&W and KEF some years ago. Very precise (“no loss of fine detail” is their slogan) but not fatiguing.
You should pay attention to audio brands from Canada:
Speakers: Totem Accoustic, Bryston
Electronics: Simaudio, Bryston
My intention was not to provide an exhaustive list of Canadian brands. Only the ones that I have used and that I like. Brands that are not as mainstream as Paradigm and PSB. Don’t get me wrong, both companies makes great products.
I would love to hear from our neighbors from the north...Totem Acoustics!!!!
I love you two. I trust you guys more than any others.
I don’t need new speakers . I have way too many pairs right now but with that said. I would be interested in these but there far away from me in florida. Closest is 3 hrs away. Don’t need them that bad.
....When you got to availability.... I felt it was important to note. I went to buy some, and nearly 2 months later - im still waiting.
I think it'll be SO worth it. I did go for a listen demo of the Lumina 5 ... OMG. AMAZING. ( on my channel )
Love the review.. I appreciate the energy in responses you've both offered here.
I have had the Lumina V at home for exactly 1 week and I must admit that they are simply amazing for the price. Especially if someone likes listening at lower volumes, they can do it absolutely brilliantly.
@@marcelpastor3678 ...Absolutely. when I demo'd them (and I have videos of that on my channel here) ... they were SO brilliant and transient!.. Ive never really been able to hear this level articulate details and get the smooth performance .. its like the best of joth Silk And Metal.. D.A.D. is a stunning technological solution.
#DaddyIssues
Totem Acoustic from Canada! They seem not to be keen in being reviewed online, but have a huge following. I’m listening to a pair right now and am drawn to them, not understanding why. They seem to have a bit of magic that none of my other speakers have. Maybe in imaging and tone (I’ll call it flavour). They also seem to not measure very well, but when I listen to them I can’t stop. Would love to hear your thoughts and explanation of what you like/dislike.
Great review and a brand I hadn't on my radar yet. I know it's yet again a UK company but I'd love to see you doing a review of some Castle Speakers.
I have a set of Lumina V on the way to test… I can’t wait!
I agree with your point regarding availability of Sonus Faber speakers. Online availability for their entry level products would expose them to a greater audience and likely bring them new customers. I am fortunate to have a nearby dealer, and a really good one. They have been there for me for over 25 years, and I have always been treated with respect. They never balk when I ask to audition a product, even though they know I can't afford it. They have saved me money when I inquire about a product that is not an upgrade to my current gear. I have brought several entry level friends to them, and each of my friends has become a loyal customer. They ordered a pair of the Lumina II's for me to audition, and I can't wait for their call. Keep up the good work.
Audio quality in all your videos is superb!! 🔥
Thank you 🙌
Andrew I'm addicted to your channel but I am a total beginner. It would be a huge service if someday you do a video on the meaning of all the words you use to describe what you are hearing. Dry polite warm reserved engaging forward lean bright harsh for example 😄 I know the definition of the words but I'd love to understand what they mean in the context of audio.
I ask a lot i know but I've learned so much already from your channel and I suspect I'm not alone in my remedial grasp of audio speak.
I truly love your channel Thanks for all you and Kristy do.
Really appreciate you being a part of the community. We are going to be working on more education type videos in the near future.
I ended up purchasing a pair of Lumina 2s based on this review. I absolutely love them! Incredible speakers. Unfortunately, I forgot to use the affiliate link when purchasing so if Sonos Faber is watching, know that it was Andrew's review that pushed me to make a purchasing decision. Thank you!
I was looking at a pair of Sonus faber Principia collection And had a hard time finding them so ultimately I ended up with the formation duos which I do love maybe one day I may get me a pair of Sonus for a different room or something But I’m happy with what I have now
I can't wait to get them. They are on the way. I am coming from a 150$ a pair home theatre speakers.. :) It's going to be fun. Got a 920 EUR deal shipped from Italy.
I look forward to your impending review of the Wharfdale bookshelf speaker, but wonder if you have any plans to look at the Wharfdale Linton Heritage. This modernised version on an old classic seams to be making waves in the hifi press. Ironically, Wharfdale is no longer stocked by many UK dealers (mainly the budget end) so, it would mean I would have to purchase them via mail order!
I would love to see you review some Canadian manufacturers like anthem paradigm or psb? Love your content!
Really liked the Sonus faber introduction to this channel but you made the point: I live in the same city they're built (Vicenza, Italy) and even here you cannot find them so easily; despite that, they're respected as the holy grail of audio. Quite a shame IMHO
Well isn't that something... I'm a little shocked to hear that. Thanks for tuning in from Italy. You live in such a beautiful and friendly country.
Thanks for your review. Any comments on this setup: Lumina ll - Gravis l - Sonos Amp?
Would it be better with Bluesound Powernode N330?
Love the videos - never miss one. Did you try the Sonus Fabers with the Uniti Atom? Was concerned that you not mentioning the Naim was an indication that they didn’t play as well together as the other integrated amps you mentioned.
We did. They pair well together. But we primarily used the amps mentioned.
These are great speakers. Gave them a shot but for my use case I had to return. I have a 11 month old and at nights I have to do lots of low level listening. The Lumina IIs need some volume behind them to really open up and get the best out of them. At low level listening they just weren’t giving me enough. In comparison, my Martin Logan 15i and the newer B10 speakers actually sound pretty good at low volume.
One odd note, the Lumina 2 speakers are incredibly light. They just don’t weigh very much, surprising given the materials used.
I do think I will revisit Sonus Faber in the future though for sure. Love the look and materiality of the Lumina IIs. They especially feel great when you touch all the surfaces.
Please review the Monitor Audio Silver line. I love the bronze but I’m honestly curious if it’s worth the upgrade. 🙏
Great review! These speakers look fantastic. On pure desirability to own and performance, how would you compare them to the Dynaudio Evoke 20's? I'm in the market for new stand mounters and really like the Dynaudio's, but the Lumina's might be easier to get in South Africa. My B&W 685's are too difficult to live based on their forwardness and emphasis on detail extraction. Even my Arcam fmj A19 can't tame them.
Andrew, nice content and I like the way you have Christi provide an alternate opinion. Very refreshing. Btw, I auditioned the SF Maxima Amator and it blew my mind. Maybe you could do a review on that if you can get your hands on a pair. Would be very intrigued to know what you guys think.
As a Liuto tower owner, anda a previous Concertino monitor owner, I highly recommend always putting Sonus Faber loudspeakers on the final listing list.
Keep safe.
Greetings from Portugal.
João,
I LOVE my Liuto tower! More than 10 years of immense musical satisfaction. SF sound is on another level!
How do you power them?
These speakers look great! They are now on my wish list... Do they have grills?
BTW welcome back, hope you had a great vacation!
Thank you!! Yes, these have basic black magnetic grills.
Great video. I had the bottom tier years ago when I was even poorer😁. The principia series which were basically like the chameleon line with a cheap finish. They had a beautiful sound signature unlike anything I had heard different then wharfedale and some other non us speakers . I really liked them wish I could afford to try there better gear one day!
Hi Andrew, I see you have the KEF LS50 in the background, Which one between the 2 feels nicest for sound to you ?
Really like these... How's the soundstage and off-axis performance?
Xavian speakers. Italian designer manufactured in Czechoslovakia. I have a pair of XN185 which I bought in 2002 for my Naim separates. I’ve since sold the Naim (too many boxes) but kept the Xavian speakers. They are that good.
You have never released a more timely review for me! These were already top on my list. This put me over the top. Luckily I have a local dealer in Audio Advice. Now to decide between the 2 and the 3 towers 😬. Great review as always!
Happy to be able to help! I don't think AA sells them - at least they aren't listed on their website.
Andrew any chance you would be doing a review on Vandersteen entry level speakers like the 1ci or maybe the 2's? Curious to hear your opinion.
Great Channel!
jean marie reynaud, love their designs and really wanna get those Lucia bookshelfs. Great upload 👍🏼
The port placement in the false stand on the speaker is a really interesting detail. It definitely makes it come across as a smaller speaker visually in comparison to the typical front-ported 6” 2-way.
Thanks for the review.
Hello. Debatin betwin the lumina 2 and the Denton 85 what do you say? Thank you!
I just got 606 s2 anniversaries and a pm7000n to drive them. I love them. I sat down and listened to entire albums of music for the first time in a long time. If these speakers are comparable, they are probably pretty great.
Thanks for this review. I think to get it paired with Marantz Melody X M-CR612... and maybe as you say upgrade the amp later. Will it be sufficient to drive the lumina ?
Christie's/Kristi's commentary is much appreciated.
@Andrew Robinson which would be better in a room, these or the Focal Chora 806? Assuming they both can be and for the same price 😅
I would love to see you compare the top 5, or top 10, bookshelf/monitor speakers under $1000.