Did The Refs Help The Knicks In Game 1? 2024 NBA Playoffs Knicks Pacers
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- The Knicks were able to outlast the visiting Pacers in a game filled with interesting and unexpected calls from the referees. Coach Nick dissected how the game was called, whether it was consistent across the board, and if one team benefited more than the other.
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That whole smash your hip into the guy for a screen would infuriate me as a player
Ngl same and I’d subtly elbow tf outta him next time he do that
Have u ever played basketball if u never gave a lil hip check here and there
It's egregious. These refs are trash.
Nice breakdown. You took the time to get all the clips and edit them together. And then delivered it efficiently. Didn't pad with filler. That's for the fans. Stay true.
Stay golden pony boy
Yeah this is really an amazing channel
You know it's bad when even Coach Nick is like, "eeeeh the Refs could have been more consistent in this one"
Who’s nick?
@@user-pk3bo2nb7uthe guy narrating the video
why do refs rarely get penalized? does the NBA think they don't make mistakes??? all the refs in this game should get penalized and suspended... am not even a knicks fan, but this is just bad officiating...
@@meursault.1984 well they do get penalized. They have a rating system for each game and they get a rating for the season, which can allow them to ref bigger games and the playoffs. Officiating ain't easy so there's always gonna be inconsistency
@@emmetkeane4807 do they get penalized with fees too? or just rating? If they are just getting penalized with rating then that punishment is too light, these refs have been giving techs like candies all season because there are no consequences for bad officiating...
ive been saying this but the league NEEDS to crack down on illegal screens. there are literally more illegal than legal screens in some games but they only get called if someone flops on it.
The warriors in their prime used to go crazy with moving screens. Draymond and bogut were particularly bad about it
I have a dream, that someday the refs will call the game according to the rules :)
@@maartenvznever going to happen as it would be a game with a boring FT parade. The best we can all hope for is:
call it consistently both ways
when the refs make a mistake, they make makeup calls..
@@TheRobversion1no it wouldnt. The players are gonna push the boundaries and if you dont enforce the boundaries they will keep pushing them, that how you get those ridiculous harden non travel rules. Players wont keep setting illegal screens if they will blow the whistle on them. Your logic is ass backwards
@@donsolos and your responding with aggression before understanding what the comment is about.
You're also making assumptions on things i didnt talk about.
The worst is the wait to see if the player misses the shot foul call
Stupidest rule ever. If it’s a foul it’s a foul.
This one right here. The fans have created that culture though, a lot of fans dont care if the team wins as long as their favorite players play well. The nba absolutely craters to their superstars and now they are all soft asf because of it
Exactly
@@donsolos it has nothing to do with superstars you tool lol
Draymond must be silently laughing when he gets away with moving screens while Turner gets called for it.
Lol exactly
exactly. I dont care if they call soft fouls as long as they will call it consistently all throughout the game on both ends. If you dont call a foul on one side, the other team will expect the same on the same play.
Also just watching the knicks pacers game with random bs foul calls to the wolves nuggets jail house game lol there’s just no consistency
@@peewee0224 yeah. LOL
Coach Malone yells in front of the refs face no tech. I understand why he goes ballistic tho.
@@RenielDeJuan-ux4we nah I’m glad they didn’t maybe given him a tech but I thought that game was reffed great. Let them play ball
They literally called the same illegal screen against the Knicks earlier in the game so they had to call the illegal screen vs the pacers
You guys want consistency unless it works out in the Knicks favor.
That one called on the pacers was literally the most decisive possession of the game! You let them play!!!
And if the refs have to call moving screens they have to call all of them and be consistent..you can't pick and choose when you call one and when you don't!! It's disgusting..
Chuck came up with a great rule. If you get both challenges successful you get your challenge back until you get a challenge wrong. It’s bs that if refs make enough bs calls you can lose your only challenges
I'm rooting for the Knicks cause I love Jalen Brunson. But that illegal screen against the Pacers was just ridiculous, and the fact that they even explained it on the screen while the replay is showing is just plain WTF moment.
NBA been rigging games for a loooong time. They literally got busted doing it and people wanna act like it was outside influences. Bullsheet
the incorrect kick ball call was easily the most game-altering one because that one turned what should have been a live ball turnover into a crucial lifeline to create that go-ahead donte three. the turner screen probably should have been a no-call too, but whatever, we take those i guess?
i'm not willing to concede that indiana was "robbed of a win" because in both cases we could have potentially gotten defensive stops but the refs in the last minute definitely screwed up what was otherwise a super entertaining game 1.
Yeah that’s why I loved the wolves nuggets game they just let them play which is what I wish they would do with the Knicks pacers.
Oh please stop crying. Like the 14 turnovers and getting out rebounded had nothing to do with it.
That not by definition a kick ball
So you concede they got screwed but you cant admit they for robbed. Take a look at these spectacular mental gymnastics everybody! lol
ThEy MiGhT oF gOtTeN dEFeNsIvE sToP
They would not of even had a lead without the refs at the end. Stop it. The league handed the knicks the win
@@donsolos 1. it was a tied game at the time, and 2. yes i am a biased knicks fan so of course i'm not going to admit that.
“They better bring the flex(no zone)” *video liked*
I had to replay it I’m literally lmfao
5:35 that shit is hilarious 😂
not 'the lakers should start including the refs as part of their starting lineup introduction' level of help but I agree the refs probably did help the knicks win
I'm 100% with you on the Brunson block.
That's not marginal contact and the contact clearly happens before he touches the ball. I don't know what the referees were thinking there, but 99/100 times that's called a foul still.
Moving screens are one of those things that refs seem to call randomly at times just to remind players to keep under control. To me there has never been a true consistency there anyway. The only surprising thing is that they decided to call it at the end of the game, which is quite literally the time where they're least likely to make such a call.
The game overall was extremely fun to watch though. Glad Toppin didn't miss that dunk...
lol the divincenzo pick was way more illegal with the arm hook
I remember the announcers saying he deserved an Oscar
Exactly, how do the refs not call an illegal screen there and then call a illegal screen on Myles Turner 30 seconds later for a screen that was way less illegal. Call the game consistently, if they're gonna call it tight or let them play, call it both ways fairly. And to call that with 13 seconds left in the 4th Q in a 1 point game of the east semis is such a joke. Embarrassing for the NBA who obviously want a Boston vs New York ECF. Watching this game gave me flashbacks of the 2002 Lakers vs Kings WCF
I like that they let the players get rough in the Paint..its bringin back the "Protect The Paint at all Cost" mentality when opposing players thought twice bout takin it to the rim
Officiating basketball is nearly impossible! Especially at the NBA level, where the players are so big, strong and fast. In addition, more contact is allowed, particularly in the playoffs, and much of it comes down to advantage disadvantage.
"Particularly in the playoffs" where they rig more calls...
Every knicks game this season has been very physical and the refs usually just let it slide. They just gotta stay consistent with the calls especially on a crucial position. Flopping might be the only way to get a call nowadays
AI Will take over refs soon
It's pretty easy if you decide to start the game calling a certain way. If it's consistent, you did a good job
@@enterpassword3313cry more there’s literally no reason to “rig” these games. They’ll get the exact same hype regardless.
Thank you, Coach Nick! We just need consistency! If the players get away with it, they’ll continue to do it. Penalizing them one time will not dissuade them from doing it in the future.
When chuck and Kenny have a commercial for in game betting lines, it’s hard to trust the refs don’t have other reasons at play.
Literally during the game too. I was like what the fuck is this commercial during game ordeal
Great job!
As a diehard Knicks fan, I didn’t like those calls down the stretch either.
Felt like it took the outcome out of the players hands.
Good job analyzing the bad calls that accumulate to the game. It gives fans an insight on the analytics that teams do on refs to see if they can do more illegal contact or not game to game. Leagues don't let their media partners criticize or even analyze bad calls even though it's such an interesting and emotionally engaging part of the games
Divenchenzo was out there like a fullback
That's certainly a way to spell his name lol
Didn’t know his name was that long 😂
@ItsGamingFancy uhhh that's not how u spell his name 🤓👆
@@itsnicetoseeyou nice catch
DaVinci was a fullback out there MY BAD .....
Let's hope that the rest of the postseason games will be better‼️
coach nick knows bball love the breakdowns thank you as always 💯🏀
Excellent breakdown Coach!
They benefited a lot more. It is possible to have similar analysis for G2 Twolves - Nuggets
It’s really funny that most people complaining about the fouls because the Knicks won
People already hate my Knicks, this is nothing new 😂
No it was an obvious fix game from start to finish Pacers outplayed them every time the whistle stopped Pacers went up big then the whistle would 4 point swing them back into the game
@@JoeSoSick they really do
Great video coach! Yes, as a fan I’m really damn confused about what is and isn’t a foul anymore. We need consistency and clear communication to the players so they can adjust. I wish it was closer to FIBA rules as Team USA has this obvious adjustment period in international play.
I think this is the weakness of full contact physical plays. The refs have to tolerate some fouls so the game won't be slowed down to a crawl. That could be mentally taxing to the refs and led them to confusing a clear physical fouls to tolerable ones and vice versa. Which leaves players and viewers frustrated
Keep in mind Zach Zarba is a New Yorker 🤔
Great video, anybody could check out a bart and Hahn radio show yesterday they had Steve Javi on, fantastic interview on fouls
Loooool you know it’s bad when coach Nick says one team benefited more
Great game
Coach, can we get your breakdown on timberwolves g2 defense? Also whos your fave to win it all
I was so taken aback by how aggressive the wolves were. But also, how much the refs allowed them to be physical. Hadn’t seen that level for a long time
A screen like that? In a playoff game? At the end of the game? Is never called a foul...unless the refs are waiting for an opportunity to influence the outcome. The Knicks? Turn it around, would the Pacers ever get that call?
Need another one for game 2 also
Loving this channel more and more..... no matter what side you rooting for this has to be the only channel where you can't even get crazy in the comments cause you literally find a way to humble both sides and as a knick fan im well aware of how intolerable my people can be so the work your doing here my friend..... Well some might call it God's work
Hello, will there be a video for Wolves vs. Nuggets Game 2?
Great breakdown. No bias either way. Just analysis. Love it. The refs got way too involved in the 4th and unfortunately for them made timely mistakes.
I agree with everything said in this video
i broke it down in the last knicks video, the knicks are getting calls other teams arent because the nba wants the knicks in the playoffs
notice the ref ny accent 1:04
Let these guys play like it's the 90s
This was dope. You should do Minnesota vs Denver game 2. The no calls for Denver and the petty calls for Minnesota was hard to watch
It is almost like Adam Silver was playing 2k and decided to pause the game and adjust the sliders.
Because its not the lakers team, now coach nick is more "yeah, its the ref
lol facts that’s what I was thinking this whole video 😂
No flex. Zone!
Nobody is talking about the fact that they GAVE the Knicks an extra point at 99 mark . Josh makes a layup but they give him 3 points before he even shoots the free throw . Which he misses btw but they have 102
I’m a Knicks fan but that call was not fair.
Should break down how good these pacers been this year in game 2s and must wins.
Like 8-1
You missed the non call at 10:7 , Turner vs Ragu screen again, as the last inbounds play should've stopped the pacers last chance to win.
Let's be honest here, it's 8 vs 5, might as well give the refs Knicks jerseys so the Pacers know who they're playing against. The NBA/Adam Silver obviously want a Boston vs New York ECF for ratings and $$$. It's hard to watch NBA playoff games like this and still believe in the integrity game.
“Feeling like” the Knicks benefitted most from the calls is not the same as PROVING IT. 🤦🏻♂️ I miss the facts
If they called every single illegal screen.... there would be a stoppage at least every other time down the court. The game would never end and everybody would foul out
Neismith flopped and got the call 2:30 left in the game (leading to free throws) . how could they not call the foul on Turner at the end of the game then?
Again, it’s critical to note how the Neismith foul got called first. Whereby making it the first inconsistent foul call.
Reframe this video in chronological order of questionable calls, then show all the other non-foul calls, lastly end with the play on Dante, and different (actuate) story is told!
And maybe I missed the part of the video where the ball went off a Pacer and the refs called it on the floor out on Brunson and Thibbs needed to use the challenge to overturn it!
Bad called game, the perception of us “benefiting” was only because we won, but it was equally bad both ways
2 of the refs are from NY🤨🤐
I mean, i saw 3 carries on the first clip so all fair
Let’s bring up two plays but ignore how Knicks made huge shots, Indy didn’t when it counted and Indy best player disappeared
Coach, its better to have mister Ronnie Nun on the show when talking about refs. Either way, keep up the good work
now do a video on the freethrows OKC got in the first half of game one against the Mavs :-)
Clean up the game by calling the fouls. The players will adjust and the play will improve.
That ref was looking to blow the whistle on thay screen. The amount of illegal screens throughout the whole game and they call that one at that moment?
I guess they still ref SGA as before the all star break 😂
Crappy calls are part of the game, refs make bad calls just like they’re going to make good calls!
I hate the interpretation when I’m playing. How many incidental arm slaps do you need when you’re trying to handle the ball. Maybe you don’t lose possession, but it’s messed up your rhythm and you might turn the ball over a second later. I’m sure that’s how Murray was feeling V Timberwolves.
why isnt ronnie nun included in these kinds of videos anymore?
not only in game one, look at the first round series vs sixers, smshhh
knicks have also been known to pay celebrities to attend their games. knicks all around a very sketchy team
I I see refs making bad calls on both sides of the floor and also missing a lot. of calls on Both sides of the floor…
the reality is you don’t leave the game in the hands of the refs , !!!! You Play the game to win, make hustle plays and score by all means.And stop the blood clot crying!!!! Let’s freaking go Knicks!!!!!
This ruined such a good game. Please man give guys fines for flopping already
Flex no zone 😂😂
Coach you shoulda done the Wolves video first seeing its the biggest story right now and also your game 1 Wolves video did great with 100k views as of right now
So you want him to cover what every other outlet is covering instead of something nuanced?
If u gotta ask "did they get cheated"...then guess what....they got cheated...😅😅
It’s called loopholes & having iq knowing when to play through it & when to make the ref blow there whistles .. every elite player or team do it . They’re making the ref do
There job & unfortunately they mess up or miss stuff like everybody else & Its a part of the game
Will AI refs take the fun out of the game?
Computer programs would never get a call wrong.
Wow! Someone other than LeBron getting a call?
Lol. Jk. Love your channel bro!
Glad there's no captain Picard in this one defending the refs
Great breakdown. Basketball is horrible to watch as a fan. Fouls are fouls. Calls should not be different for superstars, home teams, certain times of the game, it needs to be called how the rule book states. Why doesn't this happen?
I hated that call on Turner. As you say Nick, technically, it's a foul, just but that kind of screen is not called 100 times a game and to call it right then was deplorable. For what it's worth, Turner also got an illegal screen call in game 2 which I think was worse where Brunson flopped. I can't believe Turner keeps a cool head following these calls, I'd be going outta flipp'n mind. Turner dishes out his share of actual fouls, but these calls on him are at terrible times for the game play. The foul that was overturned by Brunson was a real shocker, he clearly crashes into Turner's shoulder as he rises to lay the ball up. How could they rule differently? I'm not rooting for the Pacers mind you, I'm just seeing a lot of terrible calls in this series.
Knicks had been benefit from the official ever since vs sixers series game,sometjing does looks fishy
Where Ronnie Nunn at?
I was a huge knicks fan all season but in playoffs I just can’t stand them. They’ve been playing dirty and the refs have let them get away with that. First the Philly game and now this one, it’s like they’re given every advantage and do not deserve it
Fun fact: the refs helped the 76ers out way more than the other way around. 76ers had the player with the most FTA in the series, more FTA than the Knicks as a team and had less overall personal fouls called on them. Cope, cry, seethe do whatever it takes to get it out of your system.
That stat really doesn’t mean much. Just because a player may be great at drawing fouls doesn’t mean the refs are favouring him. You need to asses the critical fouls at the critical moments. Game 2 is widely discussed as having been officiated controversially in the knicks favour, you should check those out since you’re clearly uninformed. You don’t have the information to make a call on officiating the entire series and using FTA isn’t a proxy at all so maybe look into the film before you suggest others weep and process.
@@aw20000hdhdhdjdidn exactly. Brunson earns his free throws legit… it’s an awful argument to be like “well um ackshully the 76ers deserved all the calls that’s my team and how do the Knicks even get calls like I don’t even watch them”.
You want to talk about playing dirty? Embiitch should have been clearly ejected in game 3 after trying to intentionally injure two players. There are at least 3 examples of this being the case throughout the series. The NBA also came out and admitted that Maxey traveled in the 4 point play that essentially won Philly the game.
Oh btw, the pacers had the refs in their pocket tonight and still got destroyed by a hobbled Knicks squad. Cope and seethe
worst officiating favoring Knicks especially last 2 mins
He must be a pacers fan
and they say these teams play good defense. its just the refs not calling the fouls
I think the refs have a really difficult job. However, I think lack of consistency in the rules and the application of the rules from the front office has only made it more difficult for them to interpret and make consistent calls. Furthermore, for years, players were incentivized to foul bait and flop and the league does a 180 in the middle of the season which only made the refs job harder.
There are so many little things that are not called: players not fully going behind the baseline to inbound the ball after a made basket, lane violations on every free throw (just watch Ant commit a violation on his own free throw shot), jump balls where players swipe it well before it reaches the apex of the toss, carrying the ball instead of actually dribbling. The list goes on. Basically, there's no consistency and commitment to enforcing the rules which opens up the refs and the league to all kinds of questions about bias and shenanigans. Perhaps there needs to be a cleaning up and clearing up the rule book and an emphasis on adherence to the basic rules and style of the game.
Great video as usual
Any research and development currently to make an AI referee eventually ?
Always bad when gamr is decided from dubious calls
No Hali helped the Knicks by scoring only 6 points
Knicks always benefited, even the game against the 76ers it should have been game 7 if it was called fairly 😢
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I dont like witch hunts like this because it doesnt change behaviour it encourages refs to "make it right". Also, for example the screen you showed in the beginning by divencenzo, Nesmith does not sell that foul enough to draw attention. Divencenzo sells it well on Turner. You cant really complain about that. Vet players are really good at drawing attention to fouls ehile young players try to play clean and play through it. There is a balance you meed to strike so your not a free throw merchant or flopper but your also not getting cooked because your the only one following the rules.
Ex coaches should be refs. And teams should be able to call some pf their own fouls with teams able to challenge them all
Where was your video about Embiid and the Sixers? Not enough clicks in it for ya?
NBA now a day already destroyed by referees then they say sorries for all miscall🙄
BBALLBREAKDOWN
now do the same thing to prove the refs stole game 1/2/6 from philly
They letting them play then evening it out.
As a knicks fan . we don’t care cry 😂😂😂😂
no the refs did not help the Knicks..on the call against Turner after review it was the right call …Turner moved and Divencenzo took advantage..a moving screen is a moving screen no matter how you slice it and should be called no matter how much time is left in the game.
lol this only complaining in this video because is the Knicks if it was the lakers he would say every call or right
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