When Joker said "it's far too late for that" he said it so normally that it literally sounded like there was still a slight bit of humanity still inside of him. That's whats interesting
Every single time I hear the Joker say that it makes me feel so sad. Like, what could make someone get to that point and realize there's no coming back?
In some ways, _I_ like to believe there still was or is. That there's just a bit of humanity left, but even that side knows it's faaar too late to turn back 'round. He went too far over the edge, and he knows it. In some ways, that does make him sane. In other ways, it doesn't
I believe you didn't exactly understand the video. Batman and joker were the two people joker mentioned in his story. Batman is actually the more messed up one. When joker stopped laughing actually batman choked him to death.
Mr_StephenB I agree, it was nice to see the Joker drop his mask for a bit and act like a normal person. It somehow ends the film on a satisfactory note.
I like that he apologized with his refusal, like deep down, there was a part of him that was grateful that Batman offered to help him, and that after all these years of them fighting, he was able to appreciate that Batman was still willing to give him a chance to redeem himself, and that part of him wanted to accept it.
He is still that man, hes just very distrusting of society and doesn't give an inch of its approach. I dont think he hates batman, hes sees hes a good person. But also knows like Joker, Batman is wearing a mask like him. They are both similar but poler opposites of the coin.
I think this is the first time I see the Joker acting so... serious and genuine to anyone. Like if he was talking to Batman like a brother. And what's crazy is that in that scene, when Joker recognizes he is far beyond saving, this time he says it like if it really hurts him
@@Themis419 Insanity isn't defined by the awareness of it. That's not how mental health works. It is just a diagnosis. Your mind is fully capable of understanding itself, while still having no control over it.
I'm pretty sure it only hurts him because he's _actually_ that obsessed with Batman, and he's finally realizing that Batman's serious and not just "pretending" that Joker might change. Like, Joker actually thought that he was Batman's best entertainment, and now that he's realizing what he actually wants, his mind goes from "gee, what a great friend I am" to "shit, what a bad friend I am." But he's spent so many years doing this that he might as well stick with it. More fun anyways.
@@Mythraen one of the sad parts about this is that the camera pans down at the end and joker stops laughing because Batman kills him. That joke that Joker told was the one the helped batman understand there was no saving him.
It shows that Joker is afraid to trust, it shows that this whole time, he was aware of Batman's shared pain with him, which is why he could never let go of Batman. But this time, Batman uses their mutual pain to "shine a light" for the man too scared to jump, but the man is too far gone to ever trust again. Fuck this dichotomy shit, Batman reached his arm out for Joker, to help him, because he knows this "balanced dichotomy" is the very essence that places Joker in this fixed state of believing he is the Other while Batman is the great Good, always. Batman literally tells him "maybe I've been there too", because unlike us (audience), Batman has no idea how Joker came to be, and the events that transpired to make Joker the way he is. But he tries, and he will always try to bring out the light.
But Batman wasn't really laughing because he thinks it's funny. That whole story was about Batman not wanting things to continue. So he's just trying to give the joker what he wants.
@@TheFunnyDictator why? WHY?! The dude has done a bunch of irreversible and unforgivable damage throughout his insanity that even if he did change, only a few would forgive him while the rest will try and kill him or make him suffer for all he has done
@@RWSfan2024 And even if Joker could SOMEHOW be saved, he'd be a sane man forever wrecked by the unforgivable and heinous actions he committed. He would have to live with everything he's done for the rest of his life and to be honest, he probably would kill himself. There's no saving someone like the Joker, even he knows it.
You can help a depressed or schizo person, but not someone who is totally messed up and has mental illness/personality disorders like he's trying to catch em all
This is my favourite scene Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy have ever done together. They're both the definitive voice actors for the two. Absolute legends. Rest in peace Kevin.
This was downright powerful. It's also somewhat sobering to see the Joker like this, to see him contemplating for half a second the outstretched hand of Batman, to realize that he is far too gone and that they may have had the chance one to be normal, but they are too far gone.
I also think the joke suggests a lot about Joker's psychological state - Batman is trying to help him, but Joker is unable to trust that anyone would really help him. (That is, he's the crazy guy that believed the other would turn off the flashlight).
the point of the joke is not just about the missing trust. The joker realizes, that even if he would trust batman, the plan is still a useless "bridge of light"
It's hits hard knowing that Joker acknowledged what Batman says as an actual offer, he even apologises and declines because he know it won't end well. I mean he could have really done the generic villain thing and kick him in the balls or something, but the writers took this moment seriously.
Without Kevin Conroy🦇 I don't think Mark Hamill will never continue doing the Joker🃏ever again it sends to all of us they'll always be the greatest Duo between Batman and Joker 😔😔😔
Why do crimes need a punchline? I'm so confused. Country with a high crime rate = instant shame. A family member committing a crime = instant shame. Why do you need punchline for crimes? It's like you're glorifying doing heroine.
@@The_Lesser_Evilit's a quote from a tv show both actors stared in! It's without spoiling it great and you should watch it. There is no deeper meaning to this
@GamingGreen21 Doesn’t matter what he did to you. You’re alive, and as long as you have your days, time will heal you. Don’t give up on people. Or yourself. Keep trudging along, no matter how painful or sad it is. Time is a powerful thing.
The joke expains exactly the craziness of both. The guy with the beam is batman, thinking he can save the Joker, even though he is also crazy. Joker is the second person, too crazy to realize that batman is crazy as well
I've always believed that the guy with the flashlight is the joker, and the other guy is Batman. The other rooftop represents craziness. The first guy jumps right across. This represents the joker openly admitting that he is crazy. The second guy is hesitant, refusing to jump across. This represents Batman, not wanting to admit to being crazy. The beam represents all of the schemes and plots the Joker has used to attempt to push Batman over the edge. The entire point of the Killing Joke is that Joker thinks Batman is crazy, but that Bruce just won't admit it. He is trying to get Batman to admit to his insanity, much like the first convict is trying to get the second across to the other building.
@@ibisiii3526 Yes, i think it's the correct one. Also, Joker is probably afraid of betrayal. I mean, it's batman. What he is going to do by "reabiliating" him. Throw him in the Arkham once again? What if in the end he finds out joker cannot be normal again? He is going to turn the light off? Forget him in a looney bin forever? Perhaps when you lost all hope like joker the only thing that you fear is having hope again and having to start from absolute zero and climb all the way to normalcy again
there is a teory that bats and joker are the same person. The whole story of batman was in imagination of that lunatic which lived in the Asylum because he gone mad after his loss in childhood.
the problem with joker is that he got turned into the joker by society. he wasnt born crazy. he got turned crazy. life just endlessly ruthlessly told him he can go fuck himself. joker isnt crazy. he just freed himself from the shackles of society. he turned into himself.
@@sollitdude1 "He freed himself from the shackles of society, he turned into himself" That right there shows that Joker is actually the sane one and everyone around him is crazy
Ikr, I mean he can be a decent person at a point when theres something huge coming up. And the fact that he sometimes even fears other characters in some comics makes him seem not too crazyish
@@morbster6520 it only depends which comic you are reading. there was a one when joker bluffed cutting every batfamily's face and making batman eat them. then it turns out he actually cut his own face skin.
The joke is such a clever and gut-wrenching way to portray how truly tragic being “insane” is. The first guy jumps across, no problem. The second guy is afraid; he can’t do it, not because he’s insane, but because he’s human. When the first guy shines the light, it’s his attempt to help the second guy cross the gap, one human helping another. The second guy refuses to cross, not because the light bridge is preposterous, but because he doesn’t trust his friend, which is yet another very normal and relatable thing to do. Of course, it doesn’t matter how much Guy 2 trusts Guy 1, because flashlights can’t make bridges. Living with severe mental conditions that alter perception is exactly like that. Everyone has to deal with things like being afraid of heights and not being able to trust others. It’s just how life is. However, it’s downright impossible to get through those struggles of life when your perception of reality is fundamentally and drastically different from other people, which is why people with conditions that alter perception just can’t have the same freedoms other people have without risk to themselves and others. It’s horrible and unfair, and it’s why our mental institutions and the general attitudes we harbor towards people with these conditions desperately need to change; it’s implied that Batman kills Joker, and I believe that it’s because that’s the only way to truly free him from the constant cycle of Arkham Asylum, an underfunded and miserable place that will never be enough to make Joker well. Fantastic scene.
One great detail I love about this scene is Joker's gun. Normally, the flag at the end says "BANG," but this one says "CLICK CLICK CLICK." Which the Joker does, as he clicks the gun three times before realizing there's no explosive punchline at the end, unlike most of Joker's other gag guns. Usually, pulling the trigger once releases the seemingly harmless gag flag, then the second pull is the actual deadly shot.
For anyone who missed the meaning of the joke, the guy shining the flashlight legitimately would not turn off the flashlight and thinks it would work. The guy who is afraid of falling also legitimately thinks it would work but is suspicious that the other would betray him. In both cases they are both sincere, but the inmate would fall to his death anyway because the light can't support him (obviously). The allegory is that both batman and the joker are insane. Batman legitimatly wants to help the joker and the joker wants to be helped but is too afraid of betrayal to allow himself to be helped. But it doesn't matter either way because they are both insane, and an insane person can't help another insane person become sane so it would fail. No matter which one of them gave in, it would end up the same, with batman failing to help the joker.
ScaredRed laughed infront of Harley, she had him tied up upside down over a tank of piranhas (so it looked like the fish were smiling) his laugh scared her. think bats was laughing at how the joker would react to finding out it being one of her traps that finally catches him and not his.
It is if you understand the Joke the first guy who jumped over was batman the second guy was joker but he knows that there is no hope if he crosses just darkness
@@manuelbes the author never revealed what was the original intention, however it's heavilly implied if you look at the graphic novel instead of the movie
I didn't even watch the movie yet I absolutely loved this scene. Don't know why, it's probably because I love when enemies have a calm, and deeper conversation.
I really like how the joke at the end is a metaphor for Joker's fear of seeking for help. Batman being the one who easily jumped to the next roof, telling Joker that he will shine a path for him to get to the other side, but Joker being afraid that once he is halfway there, Batman will give up on him.
I love it when these two are depicted as humans. They don't always need to be deep tragic figures, but they should feel like people. I don't like how modern depictions often show these two as the embodiment of chaos and some unshakable symbol of justice. It reduces the characters down to their bare minimum
I pity their relationship... been fighting all the way to old age and when they want to stop, both knows they've passed the point of no return... one has to die for both to be at peace 😢
There is more too it then that. The Joker and Batman are fixed universal points. They have to be in opposition of each other, two sides of the same coin. Without Batman, Joker has no purpose, without Joker, Batman has no perspective.
Two sides of the story, both lost the people they loved the most, one decided to make everyone feel his pain, the other one decided to make sure no one feels the way he did. Two sides of a coin. You either go insane or become a hero.
Because it is. He only laughed once before, and it was a fake one to get Harley to lose all of her confidence. This time, it was real and was because he was driven to the brink of sanity. Batman killed the Joker right after, meaning Batman lost and the Joker won.
This was the moment where Batman realized he couldn't win. He couldn't beat Joker. Joker refused help; he'd never see the futility of trying to break Batman. So, he laughed. Even if he didn't kill Joker here, he still lost because he laughed. He gave into the absurdity.
Gav Bond the jokers laugh is soothing and relatable, because he truly finds everything in this ridiculous world hilarious and accepts that. Batmans laugh is one of a man that is losing himself despite a long and arduous battle against insanity, which feels more threatening than anything.
Theory is (and it makes more sense in the comic version) he broke his neck when he reached his hand out & put it on his shoulder. It makes the most sense to me.
Man, everyone will Miss you, Kevin. Literally everyone's childhood Hero No man will ever replace the amount of effort and dedication you have put into voicing the Bat. Will definitely be playing Suicide Squad when it comes out just to hear Kevin last Performance.
the shaft of light that a flashlight produces is sometimes called a 'beam' a 'beam' is also a support structure by using the term 'beam' in relationship to the flashlight, this gives a segue into using the term for the support structure, too. therefore, turning the 'beam' off would make him fall the irony is that a flashlight beam is made of light i'm a little dead inside now
I think most people got this one wrong Joker explains in the joke. "What, do you think im stupid? youll just switch off the light when im half way across". Hes refering to batman, giving up on him half way through trying to rehabilitate him... Thats the true meaning.
You could take it even further. Batman giving up on him(turning off the light) doesn’t even matter if rehabilitation isn’t even possible.(it’s not a real bridge in the first place)
@whatinthek7931 then that could potentially loop back to what joker said: No, it's too late for that. Batman's silence acknowledged the truth. The joke could just be intended as a joke. An infinite loop of life and death. Death being the joker, life being batman. The circle of life and death is often portrayed in many things. The death of tony soprano, and the lion king.
the point of the joke is a metaphor. Batman went through a similar situation, but he had alfred and other people to help him (similar to how batman got to gordon before he went completely insane and nilhisitc so he still had hope, jason lost hope and fell for it and to a certain point still isn't completely with batman and will freely murder anyone who gets in his way) and so he's trying to help the joker but he's scared of it failing or him ending up worse and so batman tries helping him with a ridiculous and crazy idea (the flashlight as a bridge) and the joker is paranoid of him leaving him or abandoning him part way through and breaking him further instead of actually helping him regardless of how ridiculous the cure or idea is
Short version: There is no helping the joker and even if the joker could walk across a beam of light with Batmans help he knows he wouldn't make it all the way. But yeah read the above its an awesome insight.
It's also supposed to suggest that Batman might be just as mad as the Joker, I mean if you think about it from a strictly objective standpoint, a billionaire running around in a batsuit fighting crime on his own is NUTTY. The overriding theme of the film is that all it takes is one bad day for a good person to snap. Joker went mad but accepted it, but is trying to get Batman to see that he's snapped too on the day his parents were killed, but hiding behind this self-righteous notion that his actions are in the name of "justice." Him laughing at Joker's... well, joke at the end is supposed to also suggest that he may have finally realized in that moment that they're both the same, or at least very similar.
"so he's trying to help the joker but he's scared of it failing or him ending up worse and so batman tries helping him with a ridiculous and crazy idea (the flashlight as a bridge)" I don't quite get this bit, could you elaborate a bit more please?
The joke within a joke? Take into consideration the delay in Batman's laugh. Was it because it took him way to long to get the joke? No it wasn't. He eventually laughs because at that moment he decided to give The Joker the win. And maybe at that moment he thought giving him a win now may eventually get him to say "yes" later.
@@superdave8248bro what? The batman killed the joker here in this scene 😂 The joker finally made batman realize they are both two crazy people and crazy people can't cure other crazy people 😂 Batman took a second to think about it and agreed the joker was right and the joker finally won by breaking the bat 😂 That's why jokers laugh suddenly stops while batmans continues because he's being choked to death
The part where Joker pauses for a moment as Batman reaches his hand out and he saids "Im sorry... No, no its far too late for that" is something that shows that Joker is far too gone for rehabilitation.
I don't think so. The fact the Joker acknowledged that rehabilitation is (or was, in his eyes) an option reveals that he knows he's messed up in the head. Acknowledgement is the first step on the road to recovery, but Batman isn't the one to fix him. With Batman's own version of insanity, it would be like the blind leading the blind. I don't think the Joker is too far gone. He just needed the right reason, even if that reason is something improbable.
@@miterbinnesdirty This is the Joker we're talking about. There is no helping someone like him, someone who's killed an incalculable number of innocent people and ruined so many lives. And even if he could be rehabilitated, Gotham would never forgive him. He would be forever hunted for his crimes against the innocent. He knows that. And imagine if he was brought to sanity, having to live with what he's done. The guilt alone would drive him to suicide. Joker knows he's past the point of redemption. That brief moment where he pauses to consider the offer but ultimately declines isn't the Joker, but the man underneath the insanity. He knows that under all his insanity and sadism, he's a lost cause.
Making people laugh is all the Joker ever wanted. In stand-up comedy, your biggest adversary isn't the hecklers, rather the person who sits quietly in the front row and never even cracks a smile for your entire routine. This person becomes simultaneously your nemesis and biggest goal. To the Joker, for obvious reasons, this was Batman. And the more stoic Batman was, the more desperate Joker became. So when Batman laughs at the joke, he unwittingly really does help the Joker heal.
He says it because Batman is one of the only people he has some form of respect for, and he can tell Bats is serious. I think he genuinely was sorry that he couldn’t give his greatest rival what he wanted in the end: the chance to redeem someone just like himself.
@TAVARIUS POWELL she ment the entire basis of their relationship they're both counter-crazies? Like how Batman has this sick twisted sense of justice and Joker just has fun with it, and the cycle will never stop because of Batman's sense of justice?
What’s interesting about the joke is that both lunatics represent Batman and the Joker. The gap represents healing/facing your fears and the other end is acceptance and being fully recovered. The first lunatic (Batman) succeeds in going across and is healed, the second lunatic however (Joker) is afraid to jump over as he believes the gap is too far to make ei, believes that he can’t be healed but when Batman says he’ll shine the light across (help him rehabilitate) joker believes that Batman will just leave him halfway through and watch him descend back into madness (turn off the torch off to watch him fall)
In addition, I think Joker is also implying that rehabilitation isn’t going to help him and the “walking across the beam of light” analogy is a testament to how absurd that notion is. He thinks that if they go through with it, Batman will just give up halfway because nothing works.
Mark Hamill can act any joker. From a mostly sane one who is mostly human, to an insane, obsessive one, he's always believable. More than that, amazing.
He definitely can, but I don't feel like this is the joker in the first place. I don't know what preceded this scene, but this is as out of chracter for the joker as it would be for batman to pick up a gun and shoot random people. Like I picture a rational person like this buried, deep, deep, DEEP down in the jokers mind, but the real joker would respond to that sincere offer with a joke, maybe act like he's playing along, then drop the act and laugh at batman. You should have to mentally break the joker to have any chance of getting to the man buried within, so I really don't like this scene.
I like how the guy made it across is batman, the guy afraid of falling is joker, the asylum is their depression and light beam from the flashlight is represented as Batman's offer for help joker. No matter how much batman wants to help joker, he would still fall and it would be impossible for him to cross
Super Vegito actually Batman kills him because the joke was implying that halfway through the treatment the joker would go back insane so when Batman understood the joke he decided to kill him and laugh wit him here I will copy and paste the explanation
I think its too late for joker because his wife and child is dead and when he noticed his clown face. The only way he would ever return to his old self if his wife and child suddenly came back to life or never died in the first place and were kidnapped, but I highly doubt that will happen. He tries to bury bad memories, but they always have a way of coming back even if you don't want them to and I know for a fact if he saw his wife and child alive those memories would come back even if he didn't want them to.
I love how Joker was actually the first one to stop laughing insinuating Batman either creeped even him out because of how long he was laughing or that he killed him.
In the comics, Batman kills joker here. He starts choking him and then snap his neck. It's implied here too, because joker doesn't immediately stop,but his laugh turns into a sort of wheeze sound like he can't get the air out
I’ll never be able to watch Batman again without getting emotional. Kevin Conroy is and will always be the real Batman. No one can replace him. RIP Kevin 😢
I love to think that the real reason the Joker stopped laughing is because he was so used to stoic, serious Batman that Batman's laugh creeped him out.
This scene really makes me wonder what happen next. 2 man, going home that evening, reflecting upon everything that happened, that one moment of realness, no sides. Just 2 people sharing a moment, but it was not enough. It would tear me apart if i were either of them, standing in front of each other in the face of conflict, knowing it could have handed there.. perhaps in some other universe they would even consider themselves friends. A fantastic scene that stepped out of the expected and shared a glimpse of humanity.
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When Joker said "it's far too late for that" he said it so normally that it literally sounded like there was still a slight bit of humanity still inside of him. That's whats interesting
Every single time I hear the Joker say that it makes me feel so sad. Like, what could make someone get to that point and realize there's no coming back?
In some ways, _I_ like to believe there still was or is.
That there's just a bit of humanity left, but even that side knows it's faaar too late to turn back 'round.
He went too far over the edge, and he knows it.
In some ways, that does make him sane. In other ways, it doesn't
Just one bad day. Or not. His past is multiple choice, and that's the way he likes it.
I believe you didn't exactly understand the video.
Batman and joker were the two people joker mentioned in his story.
Batman is actually the more messed up one.
When joker stopped laughing actually batman choked him to death.
Maybe Joker actually feels so bad about what he's done he thinks he doesn't deserve a second chance.
It's the fact the Joker has a serious conversation with Batman for once and although it was brief it was a really great moment.
Mr_StephenB I agree, it was nice to see the Joker drop his mask for a bit and act like a normal person. It somehow ends the film on a satisfactory note.
What movie/show is this?
batman the killing joke
While Batman: The Killing Joke is certainly not the best of Batman movies, this particular scene is possibly one of the best Batman and Joker moments.
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I like that he apologized with his refusal, like deep down, there was a part of him that was grateful that Batman offered to help him, and that after all these years of them fighting, he was able to appreciate that Batman was still willing to give him a chance to redeem himself, and that part of him wanted to accept it.
I would like to see a story where Joker accepts Batmans help and honestly tries to rehabilitate.
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@@frankharzer6224Same here.
@@davireki7637I agree. It’s not the greatest spinoff story, but it definitely expands the way you see the Joker.
@@frankharzer6224 Yea I always wanted to see Joker hanging around Batman like Robin trying to be a good human
I love that, for a moment, we see a serious, sane Joker, and an unhinged, laughing Batman. As they say, they really are two faces of the same coin.
True, i never had seen the joker speaking seriously in an animation, lol
Joker was actually talking serious to Batman when he says “I’m sorry but no it’s far too late for that” that’s crazy
This time it wasnt the Joker talking to Batman, but the man before he became the Joker.
@@ezeqlegal it was arther
AngyXP The Rap Demon poor joker
He is still that man, hes just very distrusting of society and doesn't give an inch of its approach. I dont think he hates batman, hes sees hes a good person. But also knows like Joker, Batman is wearing a mask like him. They are both similar but poler opposites of the coin.
Billy Jolly good person killing people
Batman: *Smiles*
All of the Robins: I feel a disturbance in the universe.
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Tim Drake Same Batman’s laugh is more disturbing than Joker’s
*Meanwhile in Earth -22*
**Batman Smiles as he killed all the robins**
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I think this is the first time I see the Joker acting so... serious and genuine to anyone. Like if he was talking to Batman like a brother. And what's crazy is that in that scene, when Joker recognizes he is far beyond saving, this time he says it like if it really hurts him
Even the most insane people have days when they act completely normal for a brief moment.
Bro what's the name of this movie?
@@soulsoothingmusic6610 The name is "Batman: The Killing Joke"
@@Themis419 Insanity isn't defined by the awareness of it. That's not how mental health works. It is just a diagnosis. Your mind is fully capable of understanding itself, while still having no control over it.
I'm pretty sure it only hurts him because he's _actually_ that obsessed with Batman, and he's finally realizing that Batman's serious and not just "pretending" that Joker might change.
Like, Joker actually thought that he was Batman's best entertainment, and now that he's realizing what he actually wants, his mind goes from "gee, what a great friend I am" to "shit, what a bad friend I am." But he's spent so many years doing this that he might as well stick with it. More fun anyways.
gotta love how batman actually had to take time to figure out the joke and it just got funnier the longer he figured it out
He didnt take time to figure out the joke...he was laughing to keep from crying. It was the understanding that one of them has to die.
Well, the previous guy is ridiculous, but I agree he didn't need time to "figure it out."
he got the joke, but it took him time to realize its connection to their situation.
@@Mythraen one of the sad parts about this is that the camera pans down at the end and joker stops laughing because Batman kills him. That joke that Joker told was the one the helped batman understand there was no saving him.
@@darpinian1he didn't die tho
This scene shows why you can't have one without the other
Trident Silver indeed
Like Bruce Banner can't live without the Hulk even though he wants to cure himself.
It shows that Joker is afraid to trust, it shows that this whole time, he was aware of Batman's shared pain with him, which is why he could never let go of Batman. But this time, Batman uses their mutual pain to "shine a light" for the man too scared to jump, but the man is too far gone to ever trust again. Fuck this dichotomy shit, Batman reached his arm out for Joker, to help him, because he knows this "balanced dichotomy" is the very essence that places Joker in this fixed state of believing he is the Other while Batman is the great Good, always. Batman literally tells him "maybe I've been there too", because unlike us (audience), Batman has no idea how Joker came to be, and the events that transpired to make Joker the way he is. But he tries, and he will always try to bring out the light.
Trident Silver lol
Sahib but there can be harmony :-D
Batman can laugh and the Joker can actually take something serious? Two sides of two epic characters I've never seen before.
IKR
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But Batman wasn't really laughing because he thinks it's funny. That whole story was about Batman not wanting things to continue. So he's just trying to give the joker what he wants.
wally whitsett I could care less about the implied reason. Regardless of that, Batman *laughed*. That's all that matters.
A fake laugh is not a laugh.
Respect for joker, even he could accept that it was far too late for him a long time ago
Why so?
@@TheFunnyDictator why? WHY?! The dude has done a bunch of irreversible and unforgivable damage throughout his insanity that even if he did change, only a few would forgive him while the rest will try and kill him or make him suffer for all he has done
@@RWSfan2024 And even if Joker could SOMEHOW be saved, he'd be a sane man forever wrecked by the unforgivable and heinous actions he committed. He would have to live with everything he's done for the rest of his life and to be honest, he probably would kill himself. There's no saving someone like the Joker, even he knows it.
You can help a depressed or schizo person, but not someone who is totally messed up and has mental illness/personality disorders like he's trying to catch em all
@@RWSfan2024 Sympathy for the Joker. About like sympathy for Charles Manson.
This is my favourite scene Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy have ever done together. They're both the definitive voice actors for the two.
Absolute legends.
Rest in peace Kevin.
They’re the best rip kevin
This was downright powerful. It's also somewhat sobering to see the Joker like this, to see him contemplating for half a second the outstretched hand of Batman, to realize that he is far too gone and that they may have had the chance one to be normal, but they are too far gone.
What you said was powerful.Omgosh, preach.
I also think the joke suggests a lot about Joker's psychological state - Batman is trying to help him, but Joker is unable to trust that anyone would really help him. (That is, he's the crazy guy that believed the other would turn off the flashlight).
also some part of it is that theyre both insane enough to think it would even work
the point of the joke is not just about the missing trust. The joker realizes, that even if he would trust batman, the plan is still a useless "bridge of light"
I always interpreted it as Joker being afraid that either Batman or society would stop supporting his recovery.
Damn the conversation Batman and Joker had, imagine Joker being a hero or at least an anti-hero
He is an anti hero in an alternate universe.
Look up the Jester.
Hisuka ..
RoyaCanadianInfantry or neutral
RoyaCanadianInfantry I could imagine that
The Hedonist Thnx for the suggestion mate
I like this scene so much. This joke literally summarizes the whole movie. It is exactly the situation of joker and batman...
Yeah
Both lunatics in Halloween costumes, playing cat and mouse..
It's hits hard knowing that Joker acknowledged what Batman says as an actual offer, he even apologises and declines because he know it won't end well. I mean he could have really done the generic villain thing and kick him in the balls or something, but the writers took this moment seriously.
fun fact.
Joker is so obsessed with Batman, that if Batman turned evil, Joker would turn good.
Saad Zaman Which comic did this happen?
maan I need to see this
Kyle Santos Darude Sandstorm
Kyle Santos I believe it was called Going Sane,
The Joker takes the alias Joseph Kerr in it if I remember it right.
megavore97 even when trying to be normal the joker makes us laugh with his name
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your comment are logic
A true legend
“Without Batman, crime has no punchline”
Rip Kevin conroy
A legend indeed
Without Kevin Conroy, there is no Batman. 😢
Without Kevin Conroy🦇 I don't think Mark Hamill will never continue doing the Joker🃏ever again it sends to all of us they'll always be the greatest Duo between Batman and Joker 😔😔😔
Why do crimes need a punchline? I'm so confused. Country with a high crime rate = instant shame. A family member committing a crime = instant shame. Why do you need punchline for crimes? It's like you're glorifying doing heroine.
@@The_Lesser_Evilit's a quote from a tv show both actors stared in!
It's without spoiling it great and you should watch it.
There is no deeper meaning to this
The joke and the jokers meaning behind it considering him and batman at the moment is heartfelt and deep when you really look into his words.
Joker is really " out of character " because he's being himself. He's a lonely, tormented, unhappy soul.
😢joker is a nice guy@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq
The fact that the crazy dude didn't question the flash light bridge but instead questioned the other guys trust had me
I knew a guy who held the light. Yes, he turned it off as I was walking
@GamingGreen21
Doesn’t matter what he did to you. You’re alive, and as long as you have your days, time will heal you. Don’t give up on people. Or yourself. Keep trudging along, no matter how painful or sad it is. Time is a powerful thing.
The literal meaning of trust issues i think I will start mentioning this story when people ask me what it feels like to have trust issues
"Why are you laughing"
"This reminds me of a joke"
"Tell me about it"
"You wouldn't understand"
Knock knock
@@harrisaziz1028 You had to look that up?
I fkn waited for this god damn it
I waited for him to say it too..
how about another joke francis?
The joke expains exactly the craziness of both. The guy with the beam is batman, thinking he can save the Joker, even though he is also crazy. Joker is the second person, too crazy to realize that batman is crazy as well
I've always believed that the guy with the flashlight is the joker, and the other guy is Batman. The other rooftop represents craziness. The first guy jumps right across. This represents the joker openly admitting that he is crazy. The second guy is hesitant, refusing to jump across. This represents Batman, not wanting to admit to being crazy. The beam represents all of the schemes and plots the Joker has used to attempt to push Batman over the edge. The entire point of the Killing Joke is that Joker thinks Batman is crazy, but that Bruce just won't admit it. He is trying to get Batman to admit to his insanity, much like the first convict is trying to get the second across to the other building.
I like my interpretation, but I like yours as well :)
Trevor Bowman wow, I had always thought it the way John described it but yours fits it way better imo
You're missing something. The most likely way a person in an asylum would have a flashlight is if they are one of the guards.
John Demetriou all of these ideas are really great.. I tip my hat off to u gentlemen 👍
I’m glad these two got to voice one of the most iconic Batman stories there is. R.I.P Kevin Conroy
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Joker knows he can’t be helped in a rare moment of sincerity. Forcing Batman to have a rare moment of spontaneous emotion. Pretty cool scene
Love this moment cause the joke basically points out how ridiculous it is for one crazy person (batman) to try and help another crazy person (joker)
Yooo actually this is the interpretation I was looking for. I'm so enlightened rn
Yea this is by far the simplest interpretation of this scene
@@ibisiii3526 Yes, i think it's the correct one. Also, Joker is probably afraid of betrayal. I mean, it's batman. What he is going to do by "reabiliating" him. Throw him in the Arkham once again? What if in the end he finds out joker cannot be normal again? He is going to turn the light off? Forget him in a looney bin forever? Perhaps when you lost all hope like joker the only thing that you fear is having hope again and having to start from absolute zero and climb all the way to normalcy again
Their laugh implies that they are both equally crazy...
there is a teory that bats and joker are the same person. The whole story of batman was in imagination of that lunatic which lived in the Asylum because he gone mad after his loss in childhood.
The way Joker's face is serious gave me some chills. This, besides the "I'm sorry", is the most human thing I've ever seen from Joker in my life.
the problem with joker is that he got turned into the joker by society. he wasnt born crazy. he got turned crazy. life just endlessly ruthlessly told him he can go fuck himself. joker isnt crazy. he just freed himself from the shackles of society. he turned into himself.
Watch the dark knight movie or the joker movie
@@sollitdude1 "He freed himself from the shackles of society, he turned into himself" That right there shows that Joker is actually the sane one and everyone around him is crazy
Ikr, I mean he can be a decent person at a point when theres something huge coming up. And the fact that he sometimes even fears other characters in some comics makes him seem not too crazyish
@@morbster6520 it only depends which comic you are reading. there was a one when joker bluffed cutting every batfamily's face and making batman eat them. then it turns out he actually cut his own face skin.
The joke is such a clever and gut-wrenching way to portray how truly tragic being “insane” is.
The first guy jumps across, no problem. The second guy is afraid; he can’t do it, not because he’s insane, but because he’s human.
When the first guy shines the light, it’s his attempt to help the second guy cross the gap, one human helping another. The second guy refuses to cross, not because the light bridge is preposterous, but because he doesn’t trust his friend, which is yet another very normal and relatable thing to do.
Of course, it doesn’t matter how much Guy 2 trusts Guy 1, because flashlights can’t make bridges.
Living with severe mental conditions that alter perception is exactly like that.
Everyone has to deal with things like being afraid of heights and not being able to trust others. It’s just how life is. However, it’s downright impossible to get through those struggles of life when your perception of reality is fundamentally and drastically different from other people, which is why people with conditions that alter perception just can’t have the same freedoms other people have without risk to themselves and others.
It’s horrible and unfair, and it’s why our mental institutions and the general attitudes we harbor towards people with these conditions desperately need to change; it’s implied that Batman kills Joker, and I believe that it’s because that’s the only way to truly free him from the constant cycle of Arkham Asylum, an underfunded and miserable place that will never be enough to make Joker well.
Fantastic scene.
One great detail I love about this scene is Joker's gun. Normally, the flag at the end says "BANG," but this one says "CLICK CLICK CLICK."
Which the Joker does, as he clicks the gun three times before realizing there's no explosive punchline at the end, unlike most of Joker's other gag guns.
Usually, pulling the trigger once releases the seemingly harmless gag flag, then the second pull is the actual deadly shot.
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thats such a clever detail omg
(BATMAN LAUGHING)
(JOKER STOPS LAUGHING)
(BATMAN STILL LAUGHING)
joker: Dude, it wasn't that funny...
alexis diaz Batman killed joker, it's hinted by the artist in the comics
alexis diaz batman keeps laughing and joker starts to get scared
+Nahz Actually it could not be the case, since the killing joke is canon to the Batman main timeline, and the Joker didn't die after this
Pixel Attack This isn't the comics.
+Spiderkillers, Inc It sure isn't!
Batman laugh is more creepy then jokers
It weirds me the fuck out
Sam Blitz kind of the point... Batman keeps laughing and Joker goes silent... Because Batman just killed him.
Sam Blitz yeah
Sam Blitz its because you never hear it
I concur, jokers laugh ismore normal than batmans, its all in the conext, depends how you hear it at what time. Context context context
It sure is creative how he can come up with a good joke on the spot about the situation they are in.
He didn’t come up with it on the spot, he already knew the joke which is why he said the situation reminds him of a joke
At the last moements batman's laugh sounded like it turned to sadness very slowly, and he now has the last laugh..literally
For anyone who missed the meaning of the joke, the guy shining the flashlight legitimately would not turn off the flashlight and thinks it would work. The guy who is afraid of falling also legitimately thinks it would work but is suspicious that the other would betray him. In both cases they are both sincere, but the inmate would fall to his death anyway because the light can't support him (obviously). The allegory is that both batman and the joker are insane. Batman legitimatly wants to help the joker and the joker wants to be helped but is too afraid of betrayal to allow himself to be helped. But it doesn't matter either way because they are both insane, and an insane person can't help another insane person become sane so it would fail. No matter which one of them gave in, it would end up the same, with batman failing to help the joker.
Nobody cares, go get lost poozer
Oh nice finally a good explanation of the joke I felt stupid for not getting it fully thx lol
Oh thanks I did not understand at all, I was thinking too literal 😂😂😂😂
Wow
@@vgngolley341how will the joker or the person who is on the rooftop will die? Can you explain me
Batman's laugh is scarier then joker. He never laugh
MAAZ ahmed enough so that it made the Joker stop laughing.
MAAZ ahmed its because he has never laughed before
ScaredRed laughed infront of Harley, she had him tied up upside down over a tank of piranhas (so it looked like the fish were smiling) his laugh scared her. think bats was laughing at how the joker would react to finding out it being one of her traps that finally catches him and not his.
MAAZ ahmed ahahaha that's probably why Joker stopped laughing.
Batman: HA HA HA HA
Joker:...
Batman: now you die
Rest in peace, Kevin Conroy. Forever a legend.
1:00 Joker’s sincerity genuinely makes me sad. When he says sorry, you can tell he truly means it.
*at the end*
Batman: *Continues laughing*
Joker:Haha...heheh.....ok man... It's not THAT funny
It is if you understand the Joke the first guy who jumped over was batman the second guy was joker but he knows that there is no hope if he crosses just darkness
You know batman choked joker to death thats why joker stopped laughing
@@RuinedKatana I heard it was actually not intended by the author.
@@manuelbes the author never revealed what was the original intention, however it's heavilly implied if you look at the graphic novel instead of the movie
Mr. Krabs: GET BACK TO WORK!!
wow how joker tells him the difference between them AND captures the humor at the same time, is...pure class.
Xenebrius I thought I was the only one who got the joke.
Can someone elaborate?
nevermind
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Conroy and Hamill. The best duo we will sadly never see in action again. Rest in peace Kevin Conroy. The best Batman.
When taken literally, the joke is funny because of how silly it is. But on a deeper level, you'll realize how brilliant of an analogy it is.
I didn't even watch the movie yet I absolutely loved this scene. Don't know why, it's probably because I love when enemies have a calm, and deeper conversation.
It's from the movie "Batman: The Killing Joke". It's heavily implied that Joker stopped laughing because Batman killed him off-camera.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up
lee Snow yea
This scene is from "Batman: The Killing Joke" comic, written by Alan Moore. He's such a genius
Alvaro Tovar my fav b man movie
I really like how the joke at the end is a metaphor for Joker's fear of seeking for help. Batman being the one who easily jumped to the next roof, telling Joker that he will shine a path for him to get to the other side, but Joker being afraid that once he is halfway there, Batman will give up on him.
Also how helping him is pretty much as useless and impossible as shining a light beam for him as a bridge to cross
Snuzuk OF COURSE
You’re spot on both of you. You both get a cookie.
🍪 🍪
Snuzuk I thought that was obvious...
yes, that was the entire point of the scene
I love it when these two are depicted as humans. They don't always need to be deep tragic figures, but they should feel like people. I don't like how modern depictions often show these two as the embodiment of chaos and some unshakable symbol of justice. It reduces the characters down to their bare minimum
This joke means two crazy people can not help each other
legend has it batman is still laughing till now
how rare is that? Another apoc player.
DarkSprint hello there
Not anymore
Lol that's my comment mate
I pity their relationship... been fighting all the way to old age and when they want to stop, both knows they've passed the point of no return... one has to die for both to be at peace 😢
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it's scary that relationships can be that way sometimes
There is more too it then that. The Joker and Batman are fixed universal points. They have to be in opposition of each other, two sides of the same coin. Without Batman, Joker has no purpose, without Joker, Batman has no perspective.
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The fact that Joker has even momentarily considered Bats' offer with all seriousness shows that the sincerity has gotten through him to his core.
I actually laughed with them. Joker’s laugh is almost contagious and I couldn’t help it
That joke is the killing joke as it killed Batman's seriousness
actually, it killed the Joker. if you notice at the end, the Joker suddenly stops laughing and making any noise while Batman keeps on going.
So did batman die
I'm confused
actually, it killed his parents.
Kim Jong-un, it actually ki-
No, that's too soon.
(BATMAN STOPS LAUGHING)
*Batman*: I...I...I don't get it.
xD
it was the joke who stoped laughing
JJ_116 pay2weed was making a joke
There's a part in a comic after that
Bateman choked Joker to death, that's why Joker stopped laughing
Batman*
One of them is too crazy to leave that place, the other one is too crazy to realize he's crazy.
Forever a masterpiece 🍷
Those two...
Batman could have been Joker, Joker could have been Batman.
Both broken...
Different choices...
Too late for either of them to turn back.
Two sides of the story, both lost the people they loved the most, one decided to make everyone feel his pain, the other one decided to make sure no one feels the way he did.
Two sides of a coin. You either go insane or become a hero.
Batman IS insane tho
My gf said tge craziest thing, she told me in this scene, joker and batman are just one person. She told me in the end joker stopped laughing
Love it
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Batman isnt sane he takes all of the vilians to asolym but all escape he is crazy
don't know why, but hearing batman's laugh.... is just super creepy
Because it is. He only laughed once before, and it was a fake one to get Harley to lose all of her confidence. This time, it was real and was because he was driven to the brink of sanity. Batman killed the Joker right after, meaning Batman lost and the Joker won.
This was the moment where Batman realized he couldn't win. He couldn't beat Joker. Joker refused help; he'd never see the futility of trying to break Batman. So, he laughed. Even if he didn't kill Joker here, he still lost because he laughed. He gave into the absurdity.
ikr its like 10 times worse than the jokers
Gav Bond the jokers laugh is soothing and relatable, because he truly finds everything in this ridiculous world hilarious and accepts that.
Batmans laugh is one of a man that is losing himself despite a long and arduous battle against insanity, which feels more threatening than anything.
Bacxaber He kills him. Grant Morrison who wrote it said Batman kills him
Beautifully painful to watch every single time I revisit this movie, Rest in glory Kevin Conroy.
Two of the greatest voice actors for two of the greatest arch enemies
2:26 Batman's laughter is so depressing it stopped Joker from laughing. LOL
PowahSlap Entertainmint he killed him
Sadik Riyad just a theory
Theory is (and it makes more sense in the comic version) he broke his neck when he reached his hand out & put it on his shoulder. It makes the most sense to me.
Or batsman choked joker out and maybe even killed him
He broke his neck and killed him.
Legend says Batman is still laughing...
Deadshot lol
who's Legend?
Lister Frost who's the legend27 ?
xex Some say he is one of the first Game of War players ever- (continue)
some say he was burn from fire
Man, everyone will Miss you, Kevin. Literally everyone's childhood Hero No man will ever replace the amount of effort and dedication you have put into voicing the Bat. Will definitely be playing Suicide Squad when it comes out just to hear Kevin last Performance.
protagonist and the antagonist being able to relate each other but keep on fighting because of their ego is just perfecet story building. hits so hard
1:01 you can hear the pain and frustration in joker's voice. He's being genuine for once.
Frustration? It never sounded like that.
@@kichiwas-hargan4775 no it shows he considered batmans offer but he cant trust anyone
A few knowing joker in deep pain and he never show
That's Mark Hammil for ya
@@RoachDogg_JR I mean, you can't spell Mark Hamill without Arkham, now wouldn't you?
It took BATMAN 10 seconds to understand the joke
I still dont get it
the shaft of light that a flashlight produces is sometimes called a 'beam'
a 'beam' is also a support structure
by using the term 'beam' in relationship to the flashlight, this gives a segue into using the term for the support structure, too.
therefore, turning the 'beam' off would make him fall
the irony is that a flashlight beam is made of light
i'm a little dead inside now
SpaghettiFox calm down buddy
i gotta go fast but fast is too slow
ooooooh i get it now.
That was a surprisingly wholesome moment between them 2. I haven't seen the killing joke in a long while
It's both wholesome and sad
They are laughing off the pain for not able to reach the same ideal, yet understand each other
@@annoying_HK_guy very good observation. Agreed.
It's more sad if you realise why Joker stops laughing. Batman kills him (probably snaps his neck) when they're out of camera view
@@dgb2c596 and here I thought batman had a no-kill policy 🤣🤣
@@dgb2c596 I think the writer(s) confirmed that wasn't the case or at least the intention.
I think most people got this one wrong
Joker explains in the joke.
"What, do you think im stupid? youll just switch off the light when im half way across".
Hes refering to batman, giving up on him half way through trying to rehabilitate him...
Thats the true meaning.
You could take it even further. Batman giving up on him(turning off the light) doesn’t even matter if rehabilitation isn’t even possible.(it’s not a real bridge in the first place)
@whatinthek7931 then that could potentially loop back to what joker said:
No, it's too late for that. Batman's silence acknowledged the truth.
The joke could just be intended as a joke.
An infinite loop of life and death.
Death being the joker, life being batman.
The circle of life and death is often portrayed in many things. The death of tony soprano, and the lion king.
The joker STRAIGHT UP said SORRY...that it was too late to go back.....DAMN....that's some real shit!
the point of the joke is a metaphor.
Batman went through a similar situation, but he had alfred and other people to help him (similar to how batman got to gordon before he went completely insane and nilhisitc so he still had hope, jason lost hope and fell for it and to a certain point still isn't completely with batman and will freely murder anyone who gets in his way) and so he's trying to help the joker but he's scared of it failing or him ending up worse and so batman tries helping him with a ridiculous and crazy idea (the flashlight as a bridge) and the joker is paranoid of him leaving him or abandoning him part way through and breaking him further instead of actually helping him regardless of how ridiculous the cure or idea is
Short version: There is no helping the joker and even if the joker could walk across a beam of light with Batmans help he knows he wouldn't make it all the way. But yeah read the above its an awesome insight.
I'll never look at this scene the same way again.
Can't believe I missed that.
It's also supposed to suggest that Batman might be just as mad as the Joker, I mean if you think about it from a strictly objective standpoint, a billionaire running around in a batsuit fighting crime on his own is NUTTY. The overriding theme of the film is that all it takes is one bad day for a good person to snap. Joker went mad but accepted it, but is trying to get Batman to see that he's snapped too on the day his parents were killed, but hiding behind this self-righteous notion that his actions are in the name of "justice." Him laughing at Joker's... well, joke at the end is supposed to also suggest that he may have finally realized in that moment that they're both the same, or at least very similar.
"so he's trying to help the joker but he's scared of it failing or him
ending up worse and so batman tries helping him with a ridiculous and crazy idea (the flashlight as a bridge)" I don't quite get this bit, could you elaborate a bit more please?
The two people referring in the joke were Batman and Joker himself.
Elzero Dragon no shit sherlock
Elzero Dragon Batman was the brave one who jumped and joker was the crazy guy who thought Batman would turn the light off.
+Trollerman Sixtysevan And he probably did turn the light off (killing the joker)
quensoueu1 what really happened when joker stopped laughing?
Actually it was Trump and Hillary.
This is all Joker truly wanted, to make Batman laugh. 🃏
The fact that joker most times laughs out of sadness is even more shocking
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The joke is absolutely perfect for the scene. Fantastic writing. Fantastic acting.
The Joker was done with even his own clever quips & manic psychotic " zaniness ". He just wanted Bats to tie everything up & slap a bow on it.
The joke within a joke?
Take into consideration the delay in Batman's laugh. Was it because it took him way to long to get the joke? No it wasn't. He eventually laughs because at that moment he decided to give The Joker the win. And maybe at that moment he thought giving him a win now may eventually get him to say "yes" later.
@@superdave8248bro what?
The batman killed the joker here in this scene 😂
The joker finally made batman realize they are both two crazy people and crazy people can't cure other crazy people 😂
Batman took a second to think about it and agreed the joker was right and the joker finally won by breaking the bat 😂
That's why jokers laugh suddenly stops while batmans continues because he's being choked to death
@@andrew-rn9ui Noted. That definitely puts a different perspective on the scene for sure.
(Joker stops laughing.)
Batman : (Laughs)*
Marvel : It's a canon event!
The fact that Batman and the Joker were laughing together is enough to keep me going haha
(BATMAN STILL LAUGHING)
... And Batman died of suffocation because he couldn't stop laughing.
Night Shadow at least he died happy
its the opposite..the joker was who die by suffocation (batman)
after the screen cut away, batman snaped the joker's neck
theawesometaxi no, Batman just strangled him.
Night Shadow he might burn his laughter box, he had never laughed before!!
Batman luaghing is far more scary than anything joker will ever do
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Whats more scary is your spelling
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It's like Batman held his laughter all these years and then one day it finally unleashed.
The part where Joker pauses for a moment as Batman reaches his hand out and he saids "Im sorry... No, no its far too late for that" is something that shows that Joker is far too gone for rehabilitation.
Aint you a redundant fellow?
I don't think so. The fact the Joker acknowledged that rehabilitation is (or was, in his eyes) an option reveals that he knows he's messed up in the head. Acknowledgement is the first step on the road to recovery, but Batman isn't the one to fix him. With Batman's own version of insanity, it would be like the blind leading the blind. I don't think the Joker is too far gone. He just needed the right reason, even if that reason is something improbable.
joker says its too late for rehabilitation so that he means he's too late for rehabilitation so deep
@@SteambieGrimbley9110 exactly what I thought lmao
@@miterbinnesdirty This is the Joker we're talking about. There is no helping someone like him, someone who's killed an incalculable number of innocent people and ruined so many lives. And even if he could be rehabilitated, Gotham would never forgive him. He would be forever hunted for his crimes against the innocent. He knows that. And imagine if he was brought to sanity, having to live with what he's done. The guilt alone would drive him to suicide. Joker knows he's past the point of redemption. That brief moment where he pauses to consider the offer but ultimately declines isn't the Joker, but the man underneath the insanity. He knows that under all his insanity and sadism, he's a lost cause.
Making people laugh is all the Joker ever wanted.
In stand-up comedy, your biggest adversary isn't the hecklers, rather the person who sits quietly in the front row and never even cracks a smile for your entire routine. This person becomes simultaneously your nemesis and biggest goal. To the Joker, for obvious reasons, this was Batman. And the more stoic Batman was, the more desperate Joker became. So when Batman laughs at the joke, he unwittingly really does help the Joker heal.
i've been a batman fan years and i can't believe i never thought of this. Interesting thought :D
Yeah very interesting thought indeed.. nice.. you you kinda different you know that do you
Lou Cypher Oh my god, I never thought of it that way.
Do you think Batman laughed to please the Joker... before killing him ? Like a sort of condemned to death's last wish ?
And then proceeds to snap his neck
0:59 its my first time hearing joker say "im sorry"
For unfortunately it wasn't the joker it was the guy who fall in the chemical. Who tell him it's too late (the human side of the joker)
@@frankcastle2060 exactly...
With honesty*
He says it because Batman is one of the only people he has some form of respect for, and he can tell Bats is serious. I think he genuinely was sorry that he couldn’t give his greatest rival what he wanted in the end: the chance to redeem someone just like himself.
1:01
And when Batman started laughing, Joker realized that Batman was scarier laughing than being serious, dark and gritty.
Well he was ending Joker's life then, so yeah.
I like how the joker stop laughing when he realized that Batman was laughing
Batman ended Joker's life.
It's nice that Batman realizes he's as crazy as Joker.
@TAVARIUS POWELL she ment the entire basis of their relationship they're both counter-crazies? Like how Batman has this sick twisted sense of justice and Joker just has fun with it, and the cycle will never stop because of Batman's sense of justice?
Probably batman crazier one
Brahma Putra AHAHAHAH
TAVARIUS POWELL Isn’t Harley Quinn crazier than the Joker?
You wouldn't get it, batman kill joker right here
What’s interesting about the joke is that both lunatics represent Batman and the Joker. The gap represents healing/facing your fears and the other end is acceptance and being fully recovered. The first lunatic (Batman) succeeds in going across and is healed, the second lunatic however (Joker) is afraid to jump over as he believes the gap is too far to make ei, believes that he can’t be healed but when Batman says he’ll shine the light across (help him rehabilitate) joker believes that Batman will just leave him halfway through and watch him descend back into madness (turn off the torch off to watch him fall)
In addition, I think Joker is also implying that rehabilitation isn’t going to help him and the “walking across the beam of light” analogy is a testament to how absurd that notion is. He thinks that if they go through with it, Batman will just give up halfway because nothing works.
*insert sabo reading a book meme**
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Thanks a lot,if it wasn't for you I wouldn't have figured out that at all
(Sarcasm)
Nice.
tbh this really makes it feel like they arent enemies but rather just rivals
You are aware of how many people joker has murdered correct
I always love when terrifying, stoic batman is compassionate towards someone. Especially the freaking Joker! 😂
I never read that scene as compassion, to me that scene was to show that batman is just as crazy as the joker
Mark Hamill can act any joker. From a mostly sane one who is mostly human, to an insane, obsessive one, he's always believable. More than that, amazing.
He is truly a LEGEND !!!!
I actually think he was better as Joker than he was as Luke Skywalker in the sequels.
2nd best joker is tied between John Dimaggio and Troy Baker.
He definitely can, but I don't feel like this is the joker in the first place. I don't know what preceded this scene, but this is as out of chracter for the joker as it would be for batman to pick up a gun and shoot random people.
Like I picture a rational person like this buried, deep, deep, DEEP down in the jokers mind, but the real joker would respond to that sincere offer with a joke, maybe act like he's playing along, then drop the act and laugh at batman.
You should have to mentally break the joker to have any chance of getting to the man buried within, so I really don't like this scene.
I like how the guy made it across is batman, the guy afraid of falling is joker, the asylum is their depression and light beam from the flashlight is represented as Batman's offer for help joker. No matter how much batman wants to help joker, he would still fall and it would be impossible for him to cross
oh my god..i never thought of that! thats so sad..
Mind blown
WOAHH WHAT
That's the one! You got it lol !
EyemanYT I mean he did say it reminded him of a joke
I don't generally believe in miracles, but it sure as hell would take one to help fix Joker.
Joker stops laughing cuz he is terrified by Batman laugh lol
Super Vegito actually Batman kills him because the joke was implying that halfway through the treatment the joker would go back insane so when Batman understood the joke he decided to kill him and laugh wit him here I will copy and paste the explanation
K9mutty oh ok
I would too
but really, It's let ambiguous in purpose
I think its too late for joker because his wife and child is dead and when he noticed his clown face. The only way he would ever return to his old self if his wife and child suddenly came back to life or never died in the first place and were kidnapped, but I highly doubt that will happen. He tries to bury bad memories, but they always have a way of coming back even if you don't want them to and I know for a fact if he saw his wife and child alive those memories would come back even if he didn't want them to.
K9mutty he actually doesn't kill him
I love how Joker was actually the first one to stop laughing insinuating Batman either creeped even him out because of how long he was laughing or that he killed him.
or batman killed him
@@donrebs9416 In the comics, Batman kills joker
In the comics, Batman kills joker here. He starts choking him and then snap his neck. It's implied here too, because joker doesn't immediately stop,but his laugh turns into a sort of wheeze sound like he can't get the air out
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@@amvcentral9198 that's why it's called the killing joke
I guess he is now... The Batman Who Laughs.
Even enemies can show respect for each other...
Joker to Red Hood: "A Robin walks into a crowbar…"
***CyberSlaYer1204 Aka-NinjaThug*** best triple joke I've heard in a while.
***CyberSlaYer1204 Aka-NinjaThug*** holy shit
***CyberSlaYer1204 Aka-NinjaThug*** boi that was funny as hell
***CyberSlaYer1204 Aka-NinjaThug*** dude you made my night
***CyberSlaYer1204 Aka-NinjaThug*** That was great
I’ll never be able to watch Batman again without getting emotional. Kevin Conroy is and will always be the real Batman. No one can replace him. RIP Kevin 😢
rest in peace
Everyone else who tries to fill that void just sounds wrong. Troy baker isn't an awful batman. But it's just not the same.
@@JimsRavioliwhat about Roger Craig smith or Jensen Ackles they are both pretty good to take over
@@Rahn-ft6qo I don't know the one they have right now, but in Gotham knights, fucking garbage. Sounds like he's trying to do an anime dub
RIP
Not a lot of people can make batman laugh so joker should be honored
*batman laughs*
*joker fucking shanks him*
LOL
I have absolutely no idea why youtube recommended this to me. I have never watched batman on yt
CZcams want to rehabilitate you because you watch too much youtube
Sheng Loong Tan That Reply is Awesome
Michael Johnson same here
Me neither 😂😂
Because it's rare as sh*t
What a rare moment to see two arch rivals stop fighting and enjoy a good joke together!
The Admiral the real meaning of this scene tho is that joker and Batman are both insane
Joker stopped enjoying the joke when batman split his wig. Joker stopped laughing sooner than usual. :)
Batman killed him.
Hence, the killing joke.
The Admiral they hate each other and love each other shown in a weird way.
I love to think that the real reason the Joker stopped laughing is because he was so used to stoic, serious Batman that Batman's laugh creeped him out.
This scene really makes me wonder what happen next. 2 man, going home that evening, reflecting upon everything that happened, that one moment of realness, no sides. Just 2 people sharing a moment, but it was not enough. It would tear me apart if i were either of them, standing in front of each other in the face of conflict, knowing it could have handed there.. perhaps in some other universe they would even consider themselves friends.
A fantastic scene that stepped out of the expected and shared a glimpse of humanity.
Batman choked joker lmao. What happened next was batman was sad and then went home after giving the body to the authorities lol
i should be studying right now.
lol same
Heh.. NEEEEERRRRRRD!
Go back to the study's ur future matter
Me too
me too. but I ended up here. again.