Arbalest Vs The Bow Which Is Better In Valheim Mistlands Update
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2022
- In this Valheim Mistlands Update guide, we take a look at the arbalest and compare it to the bow to see which one may be better and the results will surprise you.
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i dont care what people say i love that giant crossbow XD
The spine snap stamina cost is insane, so when using a bow I prefer the draugr fang.
If you are using bow/arbalest as main source of damage, bow is better. You have arrows to choose according to target and at high levels bows are better.
If you are using bow/arbalest just as occasional ranged option, arbalest is better, as it leaves you with plenty of stamina to do other things.
Mages can use arbalests while recharging their eitr, but rarely have enough stamina for bows, for example.
Great comparison. I do not think the Crossbow was meant to replace the Bow, I think it was meant to enhance the capabilities of a ranged class. Imagine this: You load your crossbow and then you do what ever you want, let's say you explore in the Mistlands. As you explore, you stumble upon an enemy, you immediately shoot your crossbow knocking the target backwards and you slightly backwards due to recoil increasing the distance, if you get a surprise attack that's even better. Then you switch to the bow and kite and shoot your bow until you run out of stamina, and while you are walking away, avoiding to be hit and waiting to regain some stamina, you switch back to the arbalest, because you can't sprint anyway. You shoot your arbalest and reload as many times you want, maybe until you regain a good chunk of your stamina, and then switch back to bow. Same goes for those who combine ranged with melee, switch between the arbalest and the melee weapons as needed.
But most of all, where this weapon shines, is the instant and very fast massive attack that is able to perform. It doesn't seem to be intended as a main weapon, although it could be used as such. I think it was meant as a support weapon. Great addition to the game, and I am glad it's so much different than the bow but just as great.
The biggest annoyance with the xbow for me is that if you load it and then put it away it unloads! A close second is the resetting of the reloading process if you jump which while dodging enemies in the highly uneven terrain of the Mistlands is frequently needed. Then of course if you miss you waste a far greater amount of dps than a missed shot with the bow.
Something I have noted between the two is if you are using a mage build your stamina bar is much smaller and using the spine snap will eat through it in no time leaving nothing to running or jumping. I tend to bring the arbalest with the mage build and use it while my etir is recharging.
Efficiency it is.
This was a great video... It sounds like they got the Xbow right.. I like how the Arbalest mechanics vs bow mechanics work. Exceptional work on this video showing all the info, and without going overboard with each and every level each time.
Now, if I only had more room in my prison wallet for all these new toys!! Time to get out the stretcher. Where are those 14 werewolves when you need them?
TLDR: Bow is better at high skill with a higher skill cap and Arbalest is easier and doesn't scale as well.
bows also have better ammunition than arbalest, since with a bow and frost arrows you can still one shot most mistlands creatures with the sneak shot including star enemies
@@alkemelych7188 Yeah. In the long run bows are better and more versatile.
@@alkemelych7188 one shot?
Only thing I have to contribute is that if you earn a high bow skill, accounting for the arrow drop should easily become second nature
I've regularly dropped Deathsquitos from almost a render distance away without thinking about it & then asked myself 'how!?!' (I can't consciously aim that well)
Excellent way to think of the two weapons, as sniper versus assault rifles. Thanks for doing the science on this!
i love how this thing only lowers move speed by 5% despite being massive. i just run around with fenris armour and this thing blasting stuff then running away. i just wish it held the loaded bolt after you holstered it. also like that it reminds me of the heavy ballista in osrs, a weapon with weight.
The Arbalest is like the AWP from Counterstrike. So satisfying to use. Its a shame this game introduces so many good things right at the end of the game when you're done playing. Kind of a silly progression system, eggs and chickens are also introduced near the end, so we're preparing to take on the last boss, and just got our hands on magic, the Arbalest, farming chickens, and its all kind of useless once we're done the boss.... Magic needs to be introduced way earlier, at a much more weaker and balanced state.
I just stack up on recourses and build outposts to prep for the next update
I think they will probably add more to ashlands, deep north in a future update, or even introduce a new biome. So im not worried at all for this! Keep your hopes up ✌🏻
I mean you can build out posts and such and get ready for ashlands. We got like 2 more biomes left that are coming out
@@devilmaycry2283yeah this is not endgame. But the sad reality is that whatever armor or weapons are introduced in the deep north, they acrually will have a very short shelf life. Because they will truly be the end of it all.
At that point I'd imagine only 2 star DN mobs to pose any challenge, and 2 stars are always super rare.
More that its just because theyll be adding a new biome soon and likely a secret SIXTH boss soon~
main issue with the arbalest is that you cant keep it loaded. Swim? Now you gotta reload. need another weapon? reload. Sprint at any point during the reload? Reload from the start again. This makes it a really clumsy weapon to use overall.
As someone who actually shoots competitive archery, the devs made a very good real life representation of each of these tools. Except you can’t reload a crossbow while moving. But things like the arrow drop with distance is accurate: when you fire an arrow at 190 feet per second on a trad bow versus 500 feet per second on a crossbow, the drop is very noticeable within shorter distances. Yes, it takes much longer to reload a crossbow than a traditional bow (and you have to stand still but that doesn’t work for a fast paced survival game). But all things considered, both are loads of fun and boil down to the one you like best. Plus, the crossbow is much more akin to a rifle, so many feel more comfortable with and/or prone to a crossbow.
Great video.
Something else to consider when choosing which is what ammo is available. The bows have elemental arrows available, which are much more useful vs Mistlands creatures due to lack of resistance to them. The arbalest only has piercing damage. If I had plenty of storage space, I'd use the arbalest for initial sneak shot (aim for weak spot!), then switch to bow for finishing the mob off.
Yes, frost arrows are fantastic for crowd control . . . you can literally freeze the mistlands bugs in place.
love popping shots with the arbalest. its just fun. trivializes early biomes. feeling like a grumpy old homesteader with a gun tending my fields.
I think the bow is superior at high skill levels. To get down to 15 frames and 4 stamina usage is insane. Few will ever approach 100 skill, though. The arbalast shines much more at lower skill levels.
You actually only need to get to bow skill 85 to get max draw speed. Still takes some bow training but a lot easier than 100!
@@trengilly01 Good to know, thanks!
@@fungjungkung That sounds like a good plan. The crossbow clearly does more damage per shot, so the multiplier of the initial hit stacks far more in its favor.
@@anduinxbym6633 Bow is still viable though, primarily because of the specialist arrows. Frost, fire, poison all have their own uses and add a flexibility to the bow the Arbalest simply does not have.
So yeah, when it comes to raw damage the arbalest is superior, but there are times you want the CC of frost arrows for example....
The bow is great solo, but nothing is more fun if playing with friends than good ol' Arby.
The main difference I find between the two is accuracy. The Arbalest is very easy to aim. I'm pretty good with the bow and can hit deathsquitos at draw distance, but it's still harder to aim. Bow also has the Root Armor bonus.
sniper vs AR is the exact comparison i needed!! thank you!!
I love all the technical breakdowns!
Another excellent and informative video. It's going to be the arbalest for me in the Mistlands. Thanks!
Sure already spoken about with this, but in my mind the arbalest isn't a replacement to the bow, it's the sniper-rifle. Carry the arbalest, start fights with it, then immediately shift to the bow. To continue fighting.
This was super in depth, thank you!
Your last analogy is spot on. I use the arbalest as a sniper weapon when raiding fuling villages as I can easily pick off the mages in one shot each, and the berserkers usually are almost dead by the time they reach me. After that clearing the village is very easy
From what I've seen here, I'd say the arbalest is good for sniping and/or stealth, or people who (like me) only use bows as a backup. More dedicated bow users can use alternate arrows types for bonus damage, fire much faster, and in general do much better with the regular bow, excepting perhaps with, again, stealth/sniping. As at least one person pointed out, a dedicated ranged combatant can actually use both, and just swap as needed for the situation. Me, I'm more likely to just keep the arbalest, and swap melee weapons as needed instead, since that's my playstyle. Overall, it looks like it's just a matter of choosing which weapon you want for your own playstyle and the situation at hand.
Arbalest is a really cool addition to the game, just it's really sad that's actually a piece of a endgame content, and you'll prob end up with a bow anyway, because at that point you have higher skill in bows. It's really good if you are more of a melee user, and never used the bows in the first place, because you can go for a nice surprise damage to initiate a fight, and you also have a nice tool to deal with gjalls.
it’s also a useful backup weapon for people with heavy armour/ health foods as they can use it and not miss on dps by not having stamina as much as they would by using a bow
This video answers so many questions for me. Thank you!
My only issue with the arbalest is the fact that it shows up in the late game (6th biome out of 8, or 9 if they do something big with the ocean). My bow skill was in the 30s when I got the arbalest, so it's been catching up (around level 20 now). It would be great if they added a fine wood crossbow. Not directly related, but they should add an earlier variant for the flesh rippers too.
Great coverage as always.
Great analysis fs81. Very helpful.
Interesting insight, as usual. Thanks again!
thank you for such a informative video. really helpful. thank you!
Great analogy with the sniper rifle and assault rifle.
I'd add one thing about the first shot:
- if you keep the arbalest equipped, it holds 'one in the chamber' so you can aim and shoot directly for 1 quick shot. However, if you swap to another item and then back, or if you stow it away with R, then the bolt gets unloaded.
- one bit of data that I can't find on the wiki is the 'noise'' / aggro range that the arbalest has. For most bows, they have an 8 meter range - you shoot the arrow at a target and everything within 8 meters of where it hits gets aggroed. The Hunter bow has that noise range cut down to half - only 4 meters, so it's really good for clean pulls (for example when there's a pack of 3 loxes and I want to pull them one at a time).
As usual the video is packed full of awesome stuff! :)
Thanks for the info!
Arbalest is great for that first sneak shot, then you swap to the bow or melee. But its hella fun to use hunting Lox with.
Surprisingly: depending on playstyle they seems to be pretty neatly balanced.
A side by side dps comparison would have been nice
Th Arbalast is so godtier, it’s hilarious 😂😂😂 standing there one hitting enemies with backstabb damage is paradise 😎
A tier 4, carapace bolt Arbalest can do 1500 damage to an unsuspecting troll
Pro Tip With Crossbow:
If you jump and fire a shot, it’ll negate the knock back on you from shooting. Useful if you’re on top of cliffs to shoot Gjalls in the Mistlands (since you probably won’t be able to hit the weak spot up high anyways).
Also with Seeker Soldiers if you jump on them when they’re not doing their AOE ground attack, you can get an easy free shot on the booty, and even jump off hitting it so you don’t put yourself at risk.
Great work!
Thanks for that detailes comparison!
Being a ranged fighter in nearly all kinds of games I'm appreciating the chance to use something different than a bow in Valheim. Maybe they are going to introduce more Xbows or even slingshots...
Crossbow currently has max upgrade to level 2, and I believe they will add more upgrades in the future. Probably more bolts too.
I always keep my Arbalest and 100 bone bolts on me because they’re cheap. Love making Fulings and Greydwarves fly 50 meters away after getting shot
interesting..i didn't notice the stamina usage was so low. i might put that on my caster build because there isn't a lot of stamina for a bow (especially when climbing hills in mistlands)
A point that I didn't see brought up yet is very important in Valheim is *Ammo Conservation*.
While you can go all Machine gun style with the Bow, it does burn through its ammo very quickly at higher levels especially if you fight pierce-resistant foes.
This means you need to pack up much more ammo than you'd take with the crossbow and you need to farm more to be able to kill as many enemies.
It may not seem like that big of a difference if you 1 or 2 shot enemies but when you multiply it by 20 or 50 you really start to feel how little ammo you have left with the bow.
However, it also means that the crossbow can't be used to kill *any* target as it will very often overkill it for no real benefit. Killing a boar with a bolt is a waste since you'd be killing it 20 times over given the base 200 DMG of the crossbow.
Next major thing is the arbalests ability to get primed while moving, a bow slows you down to the point on which you can't outwalk a lot of attacks. Most attacks can be dodged by walking the opposite way the enemie's attacking at
The bow also has more flexibility with special arrows. You can add crowd control with the frost effect from frost arrows for example . . super effective actually at keeping mistlands bugs from closing on you.
This exactly.
The crossbow is better BUT since we first get it in mistlands it means we are going to have bow skill leveled up and no crossbow skill, which I think balances things quite ok.
Makes the crossbow literally useless damage wise. I will have to either forcefully grind levels to make it worth any damage, or continue to play the game organically with the bow. Also the spinesnap bow's stamina drain makes it not worth while over the Draugerfang bow. Especially because posion works on basically everything.
I have a similar issue with all of the weapons in the Mistlands, Frostner is just far too much better to change to anything else
I think the Arbalest is a good combat opener/stealth build weapon. One more thing to note is that because it fires from a lower point, you will shoot the tip of your own walls if you try and fire over them
You're absolutely right about the bow levels. I've got 152 hours in one save but only level 15 in bows cause I die so much 💀
same 💀
I have used the bow exclusively throughout my character's journey. I've died six times and I have 91 bow skill.
would have liked to see a demo of high skill lvl of the bow as u can have multiple arra's in the air within seconds as ur basically legolas. i feel the dmg ratio then would be highly in the favour of the bow in this situation. great vid as always
Oh that explains why I couldn't fire immediately after the bar finished, I thought I was bugged or lagging or something. Very frustrating.
cool video, I don't know if I will ever get one because as I recall I think the swamp owns me, and that was before those walking treestumps were added to kill me even more. But I did enjoy the video.
avoiding night at the start, always have antidot and healpot ready and kiting abominations above fire geysirs helps a big lot
One thing to consider tho about the comparison of these two weapons is that the bow levels are getting upgraded throughout the game because you are using the bow from the start which means by the time you get to Mistlands after finishing all the other biomes your bow level will be really high but with the arbalest you will start at lvl 1
It's also extremely hard to level up because with the bow you can setup a leveling spot spamming an uncharged arrow shot while crossbows at the start can only be fired every 6s
unless you're pro at dying and your bow skill is 30ish for majority 😔
@@jasoncolburn2182 I recently killed a Yawl with the dragr fang bow which does poison damage with frost arrows and I was doing a ton of damage to it without hitting it' s weak point, although my bows are 50
The beauty is pairing them together.
Really cool. Thanks.
the arbalest is generally very good but the issue is that its a mistlands weapon and in that area you arent fighting on even ground in most cases so since its uneven whenever you fight something you are generally always running if you are using ranged weapons because walking makes it so you cant go up an incline properly at all and the crossbow needs you to walk and thats kind of a gamebreaker in that situation and for the worse part is the fact you cant load the arbalest and have it stay loaded if you change weapons which is very dumb imo since the advantage of an arbalest is having it ready to shoot at anytime by pre loading it with a bolt meaning you should be able to load it change wep and go back to it and shoot right away if you already loaded it. thats my opinion anyway
Also something to note, when you are exploring mistlands from the ''spires'' the arbalest also knocks you back quite a bit, i yeeted myself off cliffs quite a few times before turning back to bows.
I prefer the arbalest. Impossible to miss, takes fewer arrows to kill, can get 3-5 shots on something tanky like a lox before they close range when you can just change to melee. The main times I use range is for the gjall, and the arbalest takes fewer arrows. I also hold my aim a long time with the bow, which drains a lot of stamina.
I often run out of stamina in combat and can’t fire the bow so found the arbalest better in the ling run
My 2 go to weapons are the demolisher and the crossbow. The coolest combination if you ask me. Plus with the power of the crossbow and its accuracy makes it way better than the bow also nothing beats a good knock back because that allows for a lot more damage with the next strike if it stuns or Parry's the enemy.
Good video, you missed one key detail though. No matter what, the crossbow loads the same, but with the bow however you were full releasing the arrow when doing the multi target scenario. It would be even faster if you keep pulling back as you fire and never let go.
Its a shame you glossed over the Special arrows, aspecially the frost arrows, they single handingly change, how the bow feels you can just circle a soldier keeping him in perma freeze while hitting weakpoints you can kite entir hoardes of seeker, and you can jump over an enemy shooting a frost arrow down at them preventing them from turning fast enough too do anything before they die. Perma slowing a 2 star Seekr and just mowing him down is significantly more efficient then with the arbalest not too mention how cheap they are-
I think there's a fundamental flaw with you testing both of these at level 20 in bow and crossbow. Arbalest is the only base game crossbow meaning you will be at level 0 when you finally acquire it. Bows on the other hand are used from the very start of the game, and generally you will be dozens of levels in bow above crossbows. With the increase in bow damage and draw speed from levels the DPS will multiply 2-3x over
i thought the same thing, someone getting to mistlands is gonna have bow skill in the 40s or 50s. and a crossbow skill of 0
great video thanks
the arbalest feels more like a sniper rifle when the bow a rifle
What was it, Tony Stark said " the gun you only need to fire once."
Arbalest is a great opener if you have the element of surprise and distance on your side, but the bow is objectively better in mid to close range fights. The bow is also more flexible, whereas the arbalest is a one-trick pony
with 90-100 skill: Bow
Another level: Arbalest
How do you get the arbalest new to the game and haven't seen how to get one so I can hunt better plz lmk
You need to craft the Black Forge but you need materials from Mistlands
Excellent testing. Only thing that I think is missing is how much the speed difference effects damage output over time? So since the Arbalest is so much slower to fire, how much ground does the bow make up in that time? Also, the bow you showed is "quality 1" which is not max level.
The Arbalast can't even be upgraded to max yet so it's a fair comparison. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the bow can dish out more dps than the xbox, considering in the time it takes to fire one shot, the bow can fire at least 4 times at full draw at max levels.
I like the xbox a lot but for me, the bow takes the win because of having to load it every single time you put it away.
Cool thumbnail!
For ranged attacks, I use the Arbalest on Soldiers and Gjall, and the Bow on everything else
Correction, I also use the arbalest for sneak attacks on Lox.
Question: Why bother using the bow at all?
Are they pre- loaded so you can shoot like 3 in a row, like minecarft crossbows doing a lot of damage fast
Nah, i just tried, you cant. When you equip unequip even to next arbalest. It needs to load.
Spial Snap's spirit dmg is pretty irrelevant in the mistlands, but i think it will be much more useful in the ashlands...they look pretty undead to me anyway
I wish they'd do away with the muzzle flash with the crossbow. It's stupid and distracting.
Maybe they should add a Greatbow or Longbow variant to Valheim with a bigger movement penalty, but much less arrow drop/greater range.
Looking at this, I can't wait to get an Arbalest.
That's basically the arbalest. I think it's movement penalty should be increased to at least 10%.
I was very hyped for the xbow and thaught its very handy because you can make more out of the ambush attacks and safe ammunition. In the end i didnt use neither my bow nor my xbow in mistlands a lot, because its hard to see creeps before they see you because of the fog and since bugs are pretty resistant to pierce (frost and poison arrows are ok). Gjalls were kinda the only aims i used ranged vs, and vs them i found the bow better, since i couldnt afford to take hits while walking and reloading the xbow, i just spent a lt of time jumping on cliffs or rolling behind rocks to reposition fast behind the gjall or you need to get rid of ticks. worked very bad with the xbow. Didnt even use the new bow since gjalls dont take the spirit damage nd i did not fire fast enough to lose dmg by not having the poison dmg of draugr fang not completely ticking....
As of current, levels 3 and 4 of Arbalast aren't obtainable. That with the (in my opinion) issue of not being able to carry it around pre-loaded, it isn't the ideal main ranged weapon. Of you use ranged as a secondary or utility to initiate a fight, then it's good, but overall the higher levels of bow skills combine with special arrow types makes bows superior still. Much more dps and flexibility in use/situations.
I got the arbalast and rolled triple shot w/ explosive arrows. Never letting this one go lol
level 20 bow when getting to mistlands is unrealistic, would be more like 40+ naturally or 70+ if you trained it, but for the sake of testing i can see why you did both at 20.
If you use bow plus other weapons 40s is about where I am heading into mistlands. I'm still a few days away from entering. Gotta kill that plains boss
I was around that level in bow skill when I reached mistlands but i also used the spear alot (level 91 currently) and I don't hesitate throwing it at drakes, deathsquittos and such so I had not used the bow alot at that stage xD
So definitely possible hehe
Thanks for this instructional video. What is the DPS of Arbalest vs Bow at skill 20, 50, and 100?? This is the most basic info that is needed for people to make a decision on which to use, and it is missing. Does anyone have any numbers?
dps is a metric for a different genre of game. both weapons are about equally effective depending on preference. nobody needs to crunch the numbers. just get in the field and try em both out.
@@momo-yh7gf Factually wrong. If I wanna know whats the fastest way to kill a Gjall, I need to know the (damage type dependent) DPS for Bows, Arbalest and Staffs
Figure it out then sucka
I'm at 100 on bow, and 51 on xbow. I haven't tested them@100 yet, but the draw time on the bow@100 is virtually zero. So I can machine-gun fire them. I'm not sure how much the reload time goes down on the xbow. But I do love it's flat-plane accuracy.
I answer this question in the video lol
Also the carapace arrows cost more to make than the carapace bolts so the bow costs more resources for less damage
Except the best arrow in the game is the Frost Arrow, and the Arbalest can't compete with that with any bolt. Honestly, frost arrows are a game-changer. They do very high total damage and the slow-effect allows you to keep shooting while kiting
High bow skill is just op
lol love using the arbalest to take out victims in the plains at range.
Wait, can you load your hotbar with arbalests, pump out 8 shots/slots then focus on reloading/evading?
nope
No, it's dumb. You have to reload it everytime you pull it out.
@@greatcesarii think it's due to balancing
@@greatcesari Aw, potential fun detected. Fun deleted =D
Do you know what the devs want to add next? I can’t find anything online it would be cool if they made a new roadmap
im not 100% sure but probly will be working on ocean/water stuff since they pushed that to work on mistlands
Well blackforge upgrades are 100% coming
i have yet to be able to cancel the xbow loading. running just doesnt work jumping just doesnt work. Nothing i do will cancel the load except switching the weapon. and if u load the xbow then switch weapons u have to RELOAD the xbow when u switch back...... i Hate the xbow.
hey spark, what about making a vídeo about modding valheim, both client and server side mods. Not a modded series, but modding the game like, texture packs or other couple things community already did, that would bring modding valheim to discuss table again
Would be interesting, for sure. However, due to Mistlands just being released, many mods are not fully updated yet, so I guess we will have to wait for that first :).
@@Laiynnalaiynna I just modded my Valheim right after my post hehe. Really happy that we can now add texture packs in Valheim as we do in minecraft. There are only a few right now but the mod community has slight increase in this area this year!
Since mistlands I've only been using the bow to hunt rabbits, deer, or birds. Mainly for the cheaper ammo cost.
I've managed to shoot birds out of the sky with the arbalest, i kill plenty of seekers and birds to keep it up (carapace bolts are cheaper than carapace arrows)
I think you might be wrong about the scaling. The reload speed of the arbalest has a 40% increase at level 100 while the bow has an 80% draw time increase at level 100 which essentially gives it better DPS scaling last time I checked.
This is true, bow scales WAY better with skill than the xbow does.
Dude I feel like other valheim content creators just dont bother with these data heavy comparisons because they dont expect to add anything you dont already provide. "Like who's gonna one up him?" They look for your videos to learn the same stuff we do and find other ways to present their own style. If you stopped making these videos, we would just be waiting for someone to realize it and fill your spot. haha :D
I prefer the Xbow. i'm not saying the bow is bad, in fact this is really close for me. I prefer the Xbow because I am usually playing with more than just myself, I an not being chased which means I can consistently aim and shoot at an enemy when it is following a straight line towards another player, which in my opinion, is easier to do with the crossbow which 5:53 explains very well.
Have avoided crafting the arbalest, but think I will give it a shot (lol) now. One benefit between the two that I noticed and maybe missed you cover in your video is that the arbalest shot itself seems to knock back the enemy much further than the bow? Giving a little more distance between the player and the enemy than the bow in between shots?
Yes it does. I mention the knock back but don't go into detail over it.
It also seems to knock the player back quite a bit. If you're in a sniper perch on top of one of the mini mistmountains, you're bound to fall off.
I personally like the arbalest better. I play with a duo, so I usually don’t need to play super defensively. I use my melee weapons much more than long range stuff and the arbalest is clearly better at the low skill range.
If you can aim then arbalest. If you miss a lot or need to use frost arrows then bow.
Personaly not enough testing is done here imo no damage checks on 2 star with sneak, since every monster on planes and mistland is immune to spirit damage thats allso een negativ.
Draugr bow is regarded as a extremly powerfull bow even in mistlands which damage wise was not tested.
I agree do that even with the more damage test done that arbelast is sniper and the normal bows are more assault rifles. But damage wise alot more test need to be made before judgement.
I believe that the arbelast is superior in group play because you can just sit back from distance and snipe one shot enemys with sneak unles there resistanted against he bow damage.
Also another great test would be which bow is better if you get swarmed bij lets 3 or more mobs. also depending on mob type different type of arrows can make great difference.
i only dont like that they dont let you put armed crossbow at the back then draw and fire it. it start reloading everytime it unsheated or switched from another weapon. but i'm love crossbow in valheim because its sneak damage 1 shot most goblins and take chunk of hp mistlands mobs. As melee character this combines great, as i use crossbow for opening shot taking their hp then take sword+shield as they come closer and finish
I would have to get to the arbalest to know the feel of it but right now it seems as though the bow is better XD but the crossbow just seems like something to carry for the big hit to surprise everything :P
arbalest is more than a stealth weapon, and the bow is more effective on a fight
wait shouldnt a crossbow and bow recoil the same more or less?
Nope, not even close.
A crossbow can be made to have 1500 lb of torgue, try pulling that by hand on a bow ;)
I have shot both a bow and a crossbow. Neither a bow or a crossbow has recoil. A gun has recoil because the bullet is powered by the exploding gunpowder that pushes in all directions. A bow or crossbow is powered by the stored tension of the pulled back bowstring. As long as you have an arrow or bolt loaded most of that tension goes into firing the arrow or bolt, not into any kind of recoil. Which is why you should never fire a bow or crossbow "blank" as the energy then goes into the bow it self and can break it.
@@Joth4851 you could argue that a gun absorbs the energy like a bow, and therefore you feel the recoil in a gun. An exploding material seems like an unfair comparison to a 'non reactive' arrow.
@@Joth4851 IRL they don't have recoil, but in this case it's literally just a game balance mecanic
@@Joth4851 Newton: every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You might not have noticed it, but there is some recoil. You can't fire a projectile without something getting pushed in the opposite direction. The gunpowder/tension difference doesn't really change that.
I'm in agreement with many of the comments that point out--someone is far more likely to be leveled in bows than crossbows at the time of this decision. In addition to that, there is in-game armor that improves bow skill. Do those things factor in here? It would take a long time for me using the crossbow to catch where I am with the bow, but it also enables me to ditch the root armor set and start wearing better armor. Keep in mind, my character is heavily focused on dealing ranged damage (or else I wouldn't be using root armor in the mistlands to begin with).
It wouldn't actually take that long to catch up, if at all. Right now I have 32 bow skill and 0 crossbow. I'm solely focusing on Mistland enemies and considering that the main enemies are seekers, I'm assuming pierce resistance across the board. With a level 3 Draugr Fang and Needle Arrows, I'm doing 43.5 average damage-per-shot to seekers if I let the full poison ride out before the next shot (~48.5 if I use Carapace Arrows). With an Arbalest alongside carapace bolts, I'd be doing 55.25 average damage-per-shot. So the Arbalest will do plenty of damage per shot right from the start. I'm sure it balances out DPS wise with the shot speed differences however.
I'm not including Spine Snap in this scenario because it falls short of Draugr Fang when it comes to pierce resistant enemies like Seekers, at least until an update rolls out where we can upgrade it to level 4.
The main draw to me to switch to the crossbow is the stamina efficiency.
honestly thats completely fair, however in my friend group's multiplayer, i have a habit of just going to the plains and killing things and also four chests of bone fragments to work through. if someone (like me) enjoys the crossbow enough, the level difference wont matter because it will get used constantly in even non-mistlands things.