The Fundamentals Of Fighting Games - Guilty Gear -Strive- Complete Beginner Tips & Tricks
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As someone who has only been getting into fighting games seriously for a couple of months, your guide is the only one that simply goes over all the mysterious lingo and strategy I've heard floating around so far. Cheers mate, you get a like and a subscribe.
Too bad you'll never actually learn Guilty Gear cause Strive's an embarrassment to the series.
@@Siberianhusky89 Is the competitive scene really suffering that much? Genuinely curious.
@@anthonyetc.7818 It's not so much the competitive scene that's suffering tbh. It's more, fighting games are lacking in variety as far as how they play. A lot of them don't try to experiment nowadays and try to be competitively "competent". Honestly, I feel like Strive's major purpose is to feed into people who want to be competitive but don't actually care about the series it's self. Strive basically plays like Street Fighter with the worst possible Xrd mechanics being retained. Instead of fixing things that were an issue, simplifying the game so people could get into the series or trying anything new, the game "changed" into a typical fighting game experience. I'm not trying to be a hater, but it is pretty true. Every time I personally play Strive, I have 0 motivation to actually learn it and I'm usually willing to take my lumps. But there's no love and passion behind this game's gameplay.
@@Siberianhusky89 Hmm, i feel you. I am one of those new players and without a lot of actual fighting game experience it's hard to understand where you're coming from. I can say that i've seen the same in other genres as well, a lack of innovation to streamline games into a competitive market.
About 10 yeears back I played a lot of SF4, didnt touch 5, and was frustrated by how well people understood the game. That isn't much of an argument for simplifying a games mechanics, but I will say I appreciate Stive at a basic level for establishing systems that don't allow one confirmed hit to turn into a match loss automatically. Maybe the series has always been that way?
All in all, its tough because fighting games suffer from the same sort of personal responsibility that RTS games suffer from - when you lose its on you and no one else, and in a market of 5v5 this and 5v5 that fighting games need to round the edges so to speak, let people experience success, but at the same time maintain a professionally competitive integrity. It's a tough cookie for sure.
@@anthonyetc.7818 I don't know man. Even on a competitive level, this game is pretty terrible. The game focuses on repeating the same things over and over and over again, there's almost no consequence for your actions in this game, decision making is minimal cause you recover insanely faster than you ever have in any Guilty Gear, using certain moves will leave you "punishable" by you being able to block at worse most of the time instead of actually taking a hit, some of the most braindead aspects of roman cancelling returned from Xrd and became even more powerful (slowing down time during roman cancels, being able to move while doing so and gain invincibility, among other things). It completely destroyed the individuality of the characters in a lot of ways and takes even less scale on a fundamental level than anything that could happen in a fighting game. Slowing down time in generally is super friggen powerful. People act like it's "Not the same", but one thing that would happen in Xrd that was broken as hell is people would roman cancel in neutral and then go for an air throw after slowing down time. Sound familiar? Cause I've seen it happen a LOT in Strive.
You know, when I play XXAC, I got my ass kicked from time to time, but I can at least have a blast with the game. In Strive, it feels like I'm just trying to compete and that's what the game focuses on and it does it in a lousy way. I mean, I've seen pro matches where a person will do 2 moves and it will be super efficient. That is embarrassing. Parries don't even have to be guessed and 6Ps are far more powerful than ever before in this game that has limited movement, yet ridiculous moves that take up a whole screen without much of an accurate guess with them. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but competitively, I think this game is a joke. I played XXAC and know how many times I've hit people with 6P? 3 times in 20 matches. I've rarely got hit by it in XXAC either and in Xrd, I do use it often enough, but that's only cause it's the only anti-air my character has. And it isn't just some save my ass all. Most characters don't use their 6P to anti-air anywhere near as often as it happens in Strive. And if they do? It's certainly not a flat out reversal often enough.
I know SFIV and SFV are pretty different games, but at least they have something that kept them Street Fighter. Strive doesn't even have that. Almost none of the reasons why people use roman cancels remain. It wasn't just to get damage. It was to get knockdowns. Damage would scale down hard. It was for a bunch of reasons and almost none of the reasons being the ones people use it in Strive except for things that were completely busted in Xrd in the first place and kind of babied people in the first place. Guilty Gear was about freedom and as much as people pretend and lie to themselves, Strive doesn't have freedom. It's just some game that hands you opportunities. You don't create them. You're given them.
This game is a bad lesson. I mean dude, the moment I started mashing and started being less accurate with my moves, I was actually doing better.
A lot of the people that watch my content are Guilty Gear players, so that's why I used Guilty Gear Strive as a reference. However, I really just wanted to make a video that would be useful in regards to learning fighting games as a whole for complete newcomers or anyone who has never tried a fighting game, but just couldn't understand them. Are there any other fighting game concepts or questions you'd like for me to cover?
Adding anything positive to the community is appreciated. I enjoy your content, especially when it is guilty gear related. Thanks and keep up the quality work.
i have a question. how tf did u time travel? this vid was released like an hour ago yet ur comment is a week old. WITCH! WIIIITCH!
I have a hard time on defense dealing with pressure vs fake pressure. I find myself blocking for too long and being unable to see the opening for when I can stop blocking
@@michaelprice4467 Understandable, honestly the only way to get around that is trying out the other characters for yourself and understanding their moves.
The recording function also helps a lot in training. You can record your opponent doing something that annoys you and practice fighting against it. Even for top players, it's not an all or nothing skill, it's built overtime as you discover more about the cast one piece at a time. Knowing what has a gap, what's advantage vs disadvantage etc takes time to learn.
7:50 There is a dojo mission where you have to block and I was getting slightly frustrated that the low attack was so fast that I couldn't react fast enough with deciding that it's not a high attack and then also go for a low block. Hearing that low attacks are supposed to be that fast explains that whole thing. Thank you!
I just went through the same thing yesterday, I felt like there was something wrong with my reaction time because I simply could not react in time to the low attacks. Finally I figured out by accident that I could react in time to the high blocks, so I just defaulted to low. I thought I was cheesing, I didn't realize it was a core mechanic.
The clip with Dio using The World was a really nice touch to compliment your explanation of frame traps
Thank you for appreciating that bit haha
Bro, this video was so helpful.
Most guides just presume you know all this stuff and go on trying to teach you things that you are only supposed to learn later.
If you're new to this genre, is very hard to understand what you're supposed to do.
I never really played any fighting game, and this helps a lot. Thank you.
ive been playing fg for 20+ years and i still love watching vids like these
Same. You always pick up something or get a fresh perspective. Never too good to return to basics
I knew all of this but still watched your editing is amazing
My man watched Vtubers as well. Fucking legend
Hope your subscriber count keeps climbing with the release of STRIVE, because your content is ace.
how can we help?! im here! angry face!*
I love how you have smash players, Tekken players, DBZF players, Street Fighter players and so many more just flocking to Strive! Leffen, Lil Making, Marlin pie, and like a bunch of stream monsters and v tubers. It's beautiful! Considering this, I think Arcsys might have knocked this one out of the park!
I realise this comment is over a year late but I just wanted to say that I found this video as someone brand new to both FGs in general but also to Strive and your video is one of the only ones that actually helped me understand what the fundamentals actually are and making them easy to understand for a newbie, other videos just throw out terminology expecting you just know and understand it but you broke things down so coherently. Thank you so much again for this video! :D
Watching you compare frame traps with the time stop scene from Stardust Crusaders is fantastic. Awesome content man!
Damn! This might be the most helpful video I've ever seen about learning fighting games. In a my years of trying to pick up fighting games, I've never seen a video that just explains how to play a fighting game in the first place!
This is the best guide I’ve ever seen for fighting games. You managed to expertly simplify your explanations that will also be useful for essentially any fighting game out there. Definitely subbing just cuz of this video man
Actually a BANGER video. Keep up the good work man 👍👍👍
great guide!
I literally got in to Guilty Gear because of your lore videos. I have bought every main game in the series since. Will you please do another video about the lore/story of Strive if or when you get time?
I probably will lol Once I've gone through the story myself and everything. At some point I'll complete the circle with a recap for that and then who knows maybe again when they drop the DLC story. I may do this for other Fighting Games too since people liked it.
@@BrendanMushi Street fighter story recaps would be really cool. I love the series’s aesthetic but never was able to play them
I might do something like that in the future, thanks for the input! Next time I’m heavy into SF again which might be a while ngl haha
@@BrendanMushi I would definitely watch a Steet Fighter Lore series. Again the Guilty Gear lore videos were amazing so I'm sure SF would be as well.
Thank you!
This is exactly the kind of tutorial video I was looking for! 🙏
That was actually pretty usefu, thanks man!
@BrendanMushi thanks bro, I just started getting into fighting games with Injustice 2 as Scarecrow and I have to say as a huge DC fan that’s never taken fighting games seriously until Injustice 2 as it still has a healthy online community I love the fact that you made this.
It's good that you mention that combos are the least important part when learning fighting games. Many new players will learn a combo or two, feel ready to go online and then get their ass whooped because they don't know the basics. Then they say that fighting games aren't fun and never touch one again, I've seen that so many times. Overall great guide, keep it up!
Great work man looking forward to the next!
Very very nicely explained.
This was so important for me as a newbie interested in getting better in Strive and Fighting games at all.
Im glad that you made this vid, its very helpful! And i love the little jokes like the dio time stop lmfao
Great Job breaking all the information down like that!
Awesome video. Gonna try this. My fundamentals suck but now I understand what I have been doing wrong. Thanks man
Thank you for actually understanding what people want from an absolute beginner guide. Too many videos you search for beginner advice, and it's focused on what games to play based on player count rather than literally explaining fighting game basics.
This was sooooo helpful, thank you!!!
def gonna come back to this video regularly while i learn how 2 play strive
This video is great man!
Cali... *excellent choice*
Your content has been really good, psyched to see more stuff on Strive.
Good stuff. Appreciate this, as this is my first GG
This is the best video for beginners I've seen so far, most of the times I look for a video on fighting games or guilty gear I ends up with videos for very specific situations the only other information I had was from the footsies handbook but even then I thought that the only situation jump ins were useful was against fireballs and my only option against poke was to whiff punish it
my favourite tip, that has followed me through fighting games whenever I pick up a new one for however many hours (I would consider myself an average and casual player btw), is to learn ONE "decent" combo and to focus on the fundamentals while playing. It helps you pick up games and new characters much quicker, in my experience. :)
This was helpful, thank you 👍
Best tutorial I've yet seen on the fundamentals
This was very helpful. Presentation was good and easy to follow. Liked and subscribed!
Thanks, I appreciate it!!
Oh god thanks this is specifically the kind of video I wanted to see!
You’re welcome!
Thank you so much for this video! It's really helped me understand the words alot of fgc players use and how to strategize my game when learning now. I now don't feel as pressured to learn my combos, because you said those aren't the most important thing. They just help get you more damage.
I know the video is older but as someone who hadn't been into a fighter since soul cali 2, the fundamental videos have been insanely helpful.
I'm a newbie to playing fighting games against other people and even though I think I should know these things from other sources, this is a really great video to put everything in a neat order.
Great video!
great guide, king
In regards to the 6ppart that’s why I love leo, he has so many combos coming out of close 6s which is faster than a punch
Amazing video
Yo literally nobody makes a video like this, much appreciated
Great video bud 👍🏻
Thank you so much for this video. I've been wanting to get into fighting games but other videos just give the same bs advice of learn your character's love list and keep practicing but they didn't teach me how to fight.
This is some quality content! I think mentioning faultless defense would have helped too.
Thank you! You're probably right, I def thought about it, but I think FD is less important in this game than in Xrd since pressure isn't quite as unforgiving and you don't need to FD brake or FD to air block anti airs anymore, it's usage has gotten toned down a lot, but you're right it's definitely something they should know
Your content is insane and is much appreciated I already recommend your zato-1 video to about every zato player good stuff man💯
Much appreciated man!
The defensive part of this video is actually extremely helpful for a begginer who is just learning out defensive options. Thanks for that
Gread vid, thanks!
Shoutouts to infilament's glossary. What a legend.
thank you, this is really easy to understand for me who just started play fighting game, all the weird language and term people use in other video just make my head hurt
but this is just brilliant
definitely gonna subscribe and like
:) keep up the good works
Thank you!
omg you actually started the video with NOD, THANK YOU
just got strive. thanks i'm rewatching this now that the game is in my hands!!
Nice video
I was actually thinking of looking this up lately. wow
The best Guilty Gear CZcamsr
I know you said complete beginner, which is what I am, never touched a fighting game in my life, but this video made me feel like I should already know about fighting game basics, or the guilty gear franchise, with all the unfamiliar terms flying around without a sentence of an explanation. Maybe next time try to articulate those jargons so that people who are looking to play fighting games for the first time do not get left behind confused.
Ya this guy video sucked
The last time I played a fighting game was mortalcombat armageddon so this was very helpful
Bruuuuuh, that jojo scene was the perfect clip to along with ur explanation of advantage.
Great video. I come from Tekken and I had no idea how to approach 2D fighters.
i used strive to teach 2 of my buddies from work basic fighting game fundamentals, imma send them this video
This is a great video. Wonder how much of this logic would apply to wrestling and mma. Gonna start that next week and find out
As someone trying to get into fighting games, I finally know what "Neutral" is! Thank you! Now it's time to learn what the hell "6P" means.
First fighting game ever. Started playing specifically because of Bridget and I'm in the dojo just figuring out buttons before practicing against ai first.
Thanks for this video! I play Fighterz, and I realized my fundamentals suck.
Lmao no worries
1. lean a basic jump in combo
2. learn to block high and low
3. learn to dash.
4. put em all together and repeat
5. pad players, set your buttons like punch x3 or a dash to a trigger or shoulder button
thanks very useful.
The World visual aid is so good for this info 5:10
0:55 ah yes Tekken featuring the goofiest looking neutral of all fighting games 😂
Literally wobbling back and forth at lightspeed
callback to fighting robot roots
@@jerms_mcerms9231 literally rock em sock em robots
This video is way better if you treat it like a semenar in school or uni and take physical notes on it. Thanks for the funimentals.
5:20 This jojo reference is so funny, I could never think about blockstuns in this way!
While I'm going to stick to competitive pokemon for any serious gaming, this is very usefull for when I play Smash or other fighting games with friends as it means I won't get shredded everytime now
I feel like you missed a good opportunity to mention Gold Burst at the end. Successfully landing a gold burst will give you full meter which means now you can use 2 reversal supers or 2 YRCs while waiting for the burst gauge to recover.
This was great. I haven't played a fighting game since MK3 lol. I've never even played with a super gauge. A man needs a tutorial for all this new shit.
Decided to watch this video after i finished a match playing as Potempkin vs Sin and i got infinite pressured. I had good defense but i didn't really know how to escape the situation. If you could do a video covering that some what i think that would be awesome
Your content is ace !
Thanks for taking the time to watch & comment, I appreciate it a lot!
This is cool. Would you do a video on how to apply these fundamentals on an easy character in a fight? With a game plan or something?
This is still gibberish, but I kinda figured out the neutral part so ty!
omg thank you so much I have been looking for a video like this!!! I am pretty new to fighting games and even tho I was learning a lot from other videos I felt like I was missing a good core to frame what was going on at any giving moment and this seems like exactly that I love how you made sense of the neutral game... and the air dashing in... I feel like in strive there is also a lot of characters that have good sliding in moves like ky's stun dipper and sol's night riad is it safe to assume this is kind of the same deal as with the air dashing? just with a different way to punish?
Gonna try following this vid. A few people said my fundamentals were trash :(
Everybody's fundamentals were trash at one point in their life, so don't sweat it lol
I'm not even new to the fgc but I like these vids
I just got Guilty Gear on sale and it lead me here. I'm a fighting game casual with a capital C. I usually play the story and against the CPU as real players wipe the floor with me. Thank you for this, but even with this fundamental guide, I need to brush up on the lingo. Its good to frame the game in how a human opponent fights and reacts to you.
lmao that calli clip
brendan mushi my strive ultimate edition is still in the box. even if my grass-roots is the arcade machines in the 90S. your fgs tips & tricks is godlike 101%. especially since strive is my first guilty gear game of the gg series.
Sick, I’m glad to hear it. Just remember to play to learn/have fun and not focus TOO hard on playing to win when starting out
@@BrendanMushi i did play during all 3 strive betas.
@@LEGENDARY11GAMER Nice, well then nevermind it seems you've already got a good mindset then.
After finding out that a new melty blood game came out I decided to get back into fighting games, and I learned I'm washed as fuck. So I figured I would brush up on the basics.
The only fighting game I have played is smash bros., but with me having recently fallen down the Guilty Gear rabbithole (first the music, then the lore, etc.), now I am wanting to get into it. I will probably referring to this video and many others quite often, I imagine.
perfect I impulse bought this so I need a survival guide
I just bought it yesterday so I’m really new lol
The anime references are on point
This guide is really helpful! What songs did you use in this video?
The first one is Tekken 7 Infinite Azure 2, Neutral is CvS2 Fight with the Wind, Offense is Tekken 7 Jungle Outpost 2, and Defense is Tekken 7 Devils Pit 2
Literally every fighting game player ever when trying to explain "simple" stuff to us: "Wait so you're telling me you're like 'New' type of new? Like completely new? Like never played fighting games before type of newly new...? Oh I thought everyone started fighting games at 5 years old like me 👁👄👁"
Thanks for being the first ever fighting game person to actually *_try_* to empathize with us 😭😭
Well, hearing that combos are not really that important (i'm not saying that it's useless to learn combos) while playing a Fighting Game opened my mind. I always thought that landing that 50 hit combo was NECESSARY in every match and wondered HOW pro players or just good players can memorize like 10 combos for almost every character, that felt inhuman to me to learn lots of combos. Anyway, thanks for the video and making everything clear to me and possibly everyone else watching this!
I like how the video is based on Guilty Gear but the music is like 90% Tekken 7 🙂
This one is a diamond in the rough
people are always talking about and giving tips about landing your combos and stuff, meanwhile I've been suffering just trying to consecutively perform the comands in Guilty Gear
Roman cancel sounds like advancing guard in other games, is that right?