KTM 1090 Adventure | More Than It Seems!
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- KTM 1090 Adventure was a bike I was not expecting to like, I thought it's not quick, it won't handle I dont have any deserts to cross, it's going to be extremely boring... How wrong could I be!
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I have to agree! I love the upright slightly leaned forward totally in control riding position, with a comfortable seat, smooth power and amazing handling you get with a premium suspension. I have the Adventure R and even with the TKC-80 tires it still handles amazing in the twisties. It really is a great do/all adventure bike! I'm in Canada and this bike really is a blast to see the country with, plus can you really take seriously any adventure bike with pokey chrome bits and a metal tank.
The last edit was just pure gold :D
Thanks :-)
It sure was. Any plans to do the Dakar rally next year?
+Paul Ford haha yeah think I'm ready... 😂😂
This review is spot on! I bought one a few weeks ago, and I agree with everything you see about it. It is quick, comfortable and affordable(ish). No, it does not have 160hp and loads of electronics to make it usable, yes it has a lot of plastic parts, but overall
it is a complete and well build machine.
The only real issue I have with it it the screen. For me, it is barely usable at anything over 40mph. Very noisy and poor protection for my 1.96m. Trying the Puig large and small screens next, hope there will be a winner in there.
Thanks for helping me choose this much underrated bike!
Good to hear Ernst, agreed on the screen, tbh all the adventure bikes are the same Ive tried, they all need changing to a bigger one!
I've got the older 990 SM-T, proper hooligan machine and sounds epic with the twin Wings exhausts. Just a big supermoto with a bit practicality really.
If somebody told me I'd be riding an adventure (sorry) style bike 8 months ago I would have laughed at them but here I am riding a tiger XRX and loving it, pays to keep an open mind. Excellent intros to your videos to Chop
love your attitude and the fun you have on bike. this is what biking should be about. good lad
Hi Chops, coming Friday I will be heading to the KTM-dealer in my town , picking up my 1090 Adventure 😀 2017, 15.000 mls, first owner, complete service history, Akrapovich , KTM panniers Thanks for your energetic vlog💪 greetings from Holland , Roeland
your production quality is just rocketing well done chops absolutely top notch bike videos
Thanks Dude, I have been trying, glad it shows :-)
Sold my GSXR1000K3 for a KTM1190 Adventure, I had a demo on the 1050 and loved it, I then had a go on the KTM 1190 Adventure and had to have one! Very few sports bikes will lose you on a B road! Spot on review Chops
Yes I agree, i've flown down my local twisties and Im sure I could upset some sportbikes no problem! Would be hilarious coming past with a topbox too hehe
people are so judgmental about bags! XD I was running down a sport bike with my F800GS through some curves and hes like wow I'm impressed a bike that has bags can do that!!
Best review I have seen for this bike especially as you weren't a fan before you rode it Mr chop..clear & to the point..spot on
Got my 1090R equipped with the blindingly bright Rade Garage Rally kit and other off-road goodies and I absolutely love the thing! Front tire came up on me today in 3rd gear and was not even really trying, and it eats up dirt in New Mexico like no one's business. Hoping to take this on a trip to Utah along with my brother and his 1290SAR in the near future. As always your videos are great!
I have the 1090 2018 and it is really a diverse motorcycle.
On a winding public road I am at the pace of the super sport. when riding off-road with the original tires it is possible to go through places where only high 4x4 get without a problem and it is also a fine touring motorcycle. The only problem I have is the screwed up windshield. Above 100 km/h I need ear plugs and above 150 km/h must bend. I put a spoiler that improved a bit but it's still not good enough. Beyond that, a cool motorcycle that is usually underrate compared to the R version. excellent video.
I have just been to look at a BMW 850gs and sat on one of these. It's more comfortable, easier to get a foot down and can easily be lowered 30mm. My thoughts are turning orange! 😊
Looking back at this in 2023, I still like this much more than the 890. They're not that easy to find, though. People hanging on to theirs.
Really enjoy your channel lately. your reviews are really good with a bit of tongue in cheek humour especially in this one. keep up to good work lamb chops 👍🏻 looking forward to seeing the rest of your SuperDuke reviews!
+Mtriple8 thanks buddy appreciate the feedback 👍
I've had the 1090r for nearly two years, love it!
What an amazing first 2 minutes of editing. I'm not keen on adventure bikes but i kinda wanna try this bike now.
+Danny's Moto Channel thanks Danny 👍
What da hell is wrong with all manufactures that they are intently skip cruise control feature in this class of bikes. It's a bloody touring bike! Same problem with newest Africa Twin. I love to ride long distances and it just makes me nervous that I'd have to spend more for e.g. 1200cc adv touring bike to have cruise control. It's not a big challange to put CC in 800-1000cc class bike, even as an option, is it?
Triumph has in its smaller bikes. Also does BMW now.
Costs 5 bucks for cruise. Plastic device for limp wristed riders
Felt the same way. From sportbike to superduke to adv bike. I got a vstrom because the ktm more expensive in the states. We don't even get the super adv S, test that next. But adv bikes are the new sport tourers, forget concourse or fj. Available in two versions street or off-road. Very fast in the twisties, lose the top box though too much wind resistance 😉
Brilliant bike still got mine after 5 yrs
Watched this vid a few times. Had a test ride then found out KTM have slashed the price from £11299 to £9250 OTR ! I pick it up in a week. Thanks old man 👍😁
if you think this is nice try the 1290 S with 160bhp...you'll be amazed at how quickly you find the extra 4 grand! good review!
I disagree. I had the 1290 for 2 days when my 1090 was in the garage. I was happy to be on my 1090 again.
@@knotsable why so?
@@a6s4z lighter, more playfull, still plenty of torque, and why cares about a tft screen
KTM should pay you for this marketing video, because I am seriously thinking of 1090 after watching this.
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Love it chops, the endings are always worth waiting for.. haha.. thanks for taking the time to create these videos for our entertainment.
No problem Liam!! Just need the new Ducati offroad to compare it to now.. Shame I don't know anyone with Ducati influence... ;-)
it does make me smile when the sports bike boys finally have that moment of realisation that the 'old man's' bikes that they have been mindlessly slagging off for so long are actually great machines....just shows what you can learn if you take the blinkers off.
Hi Chops! I’m a new subscriber and have to say I love the content. The vid edits and drone cam footage is awesome! Plus it’s about my fave subject - cool bikes 🏍. All the best 👍
+Biggles thanks very much Biggles appreciated buddy 👍
Love the review. Especially the off road workout. No fear! I'm buying one.
Excellent video mate, production quality is incredible! And i think it's just a great bike, even made me want to get one....
Very kind of you to say so Sir!! Try one its really nice dont want to ride anything else now!
Haha love it. Like the ending you look just like him
I'm looking at a Brand New Unregistered 1090 Adventure thats going for £8995....? or a brand new 2018 Superduke GT for £12k which one would you go for???
You've absolutely sold this to me - now I need someone to sell the idea of finance to my wife :D
+Dave Cross haha keep working on her!
nice review dude!! Just got mine..and I also say it is the best bike I have ever ridden!! I am also over 6`` and suffer a bit with the Vibration on my helmet. Cant find a nice position for the screen. Love this bike though!!
I got the 1190, i knida see it as a gigant supermotard/sportbike that dose adventure if you want :)
Wow it's a lovely looking bike, i was a late starter with bikes, only started riding 3 years ago so when looking for my first bike ( a 125 ) i just wanted something as big as poss with me being tall and gangly ( is that a word ? ) so bought a Honda varadero 125, i don't like the idea of off road riding but neither does my bike, it tries to spit me off at the first sight of mud but seem's good in all condition's on the road with a pair of continental conti-go's, now i'm ready to pass my test i will still keep the baby varadero as a winter bike knowing what winter riding does to shiny bike's as my 1st bigger bike is an almost mint 97 zzr600 e5 with full service history and 32k mile's ( is that a lot for a zzr600 ? ) so i want to keep it that way. I will some day get another adventure bike with a bigger engine, i just love the look and at 42 years old with dodgy knee's and back already comfort appeal's, i hear a lot on review's that most adventure bike's don't really do off road well, should they be called urban adventure bike's instead ?
your videos are just great! greetings from an MT 07-rider from austria :-)
I've watched this review at least a dozen times as I just love the sound track -The bikes not bad either ;-)
Have a go on the Ducati Multistrada 950, l think it is just as good as the 1090 Adventure.
I have to test ride this beast! I rode the 1050 and really liked it. 125bhp and 200kg sounds perfect, plus I love a v twin.
+Mat Newton yes they have extracted an extra 30 hp from it somehow... defo fast! Faster than my mates CR500 we had a drag race 😎😎
Funny how its 1050cc but now called a 1090. Still 125ps isn't that much from that cc. 950 multistrada manages 115ps from 950cc
Lamb Chop.....ride a 2018 Suzuki V-Strom 1000 if you can get a chance!
Won't be a patch on the ktm a v-strom
I have a Z900 that manages 125 hp from 948cc, and after a tune will make that at the rear wheel.
Twins may not produce the 'peak horsepower' that multi-cylinder engines will make, but they DO produce a lot of force (torque) in most places that a multi-cylinder engine does not.
V-Strom 1000 is a 1,037cc V-twin and it's rated around 100 hp. Torque in spades however. I've run a demo of it a couple times and it does not lack power. Another 25 hp from the KTM would be very quick.
Actually thought about getting this modell myself! But the R model looks nicer with the white fairings and the orange frame i think! I know it's more of an offroad modell, but just put some tires that are inbetween road and offroad and i think it's going to be just right!
Yep, I borrowing the super R later in the year. I'm really interested to try it now after this one!!
Looking forward to the rewiew! Better save up some money for next season just in case ;)!
Have it in my garage now. 2nd hand with low mileage, nice options and extended warranty. Whenever i open the door to the garage i hear "steal my sunshine" so i guess you're partially responsible :D
haha great to hear love that :-)
Brilliant video, informative and funny, love it! :-) Some nice video editing too
I could live with the panniers but not the top box.. Great bike and review
Yeah its not sexy the Chopbox, but very very handy :-)
Hi buddy,
I really like your way of presentations...Thanks for your valuable efforts...I have test ridden one of these bikes and honestly I fell in love with it...The only disturbing issue for me was the feeling of very hot engine...I wonder if you have the same feeling.? ..I. am considering Africa Twin as well...so what are your thoughts in comparison?
Just changed my 2017 superduke 1290 for a 1290 super adventure s what a bloody weapon 👍🏼
Aidan Vorbeck it just does everything inc 3rd gear power wheelies with ease . Comfy smooth fast very fast . Very little difference in performance to the superduke .
Aidan Vorbeck it's in my garage 👍🏼
Only just had its first service but I took it to 145 mph with ease and it was still pulling hard
You mentioned the lateness of the brakes . Would this not be the compression of the forks preventing the tyre from spreading and therefore aiding grip ?
Yes quite possibly!
It's about time someone designed a top box that doesn't spoil the look of the bike. This might be me in about 3 years, baby steps, it's the naked for me next I think.
I would encourage anyone to try one, it takes a little while to adjust to it but once you have I think anything else just seems uncomfortable restrictive.. Try one!!
Chop, you are one of the the best reviewers on CZcams.
great video and production quality sir!
+Dean Toon thanks buddy!
had a go on on of those when I had my old gen 2 tuono, ruined the tuono for me. Did everything the tuono did more comfortably
I can believe it! I hope ive not been spoilt to much and can go backwards still!!
WANT. One of my favorite songs from 1999 too. :)
Loving the 1:235 section and the test card! Great editing..you did the circling flightplan too, but how did you track yourself riding the trail?
Brilliant. Especially the end. Laughed so much a bit of wee came out Hahahaha. I have the 1190 and love it. Always had supermoto's and super naked's I still have both but use the 1190 more than anything else
haha thanks matey! I can see myself on something like this really can
Lamb Chop Rides you will not regret it mate. Especially as you like me enjoy saving wear on you front tire lol if you know what I mean.
If you ever get hold of the 1190 adventure you should really try it Chopsy, it is actually lighter than this 1090 but with more horsepower and torque =)
I like the 1190 just because of that more than the 1290 Super adventure since that bike only has 10 hp more than the 1190 but weighs much more!
Since when is the 1190 lighter?
@@inked-96 I have put both of the bikes on a scale recently, the 1190 was 230 kg fully fueled, and the 1090 was 230 kg fully fueled as well. So the sites I looked on was wrong, they weighted exactly the same, with topped up tanks. However the 1190 is quite more powerful, you can feel the difference.
I have not put the 1290 Super Adventure on the scale but according to several sites on the internet the "S" model weighs in about 240 to 250 kg fully fueled somewhere around that.
So it seems the 1190 and the 1290 are pretty similar in power to weight ratio, and since the 1190 is a lot cheaper used right now, if I can find a bike with less miles on it, I might buy one =)
@mathias6423 See, whilst it may be identical in weight, I'd argue that given the 1190 is a fair few years older, It's more than likely lost a few ponies. I'm in the market for a cheaper adventure bike after selling my 1250GSA. I rode the 1190 and 1090 back to back. Whilst the 1190 did have a little extra in the midrange, the gearbox, suspension and overall ride weren't as nice as the newer 1090.. I'm more than likely going to buy the 1090, even over the 1290 super adventure s.
I want to go back to a basic kinda bike, less the go wrong.. God, I sound like one of those old men on the forums haha. But, at 28, I don't wanna be around the world for anything to fail electronically.. which the newer ktm's are known for.
I did like the 1190, but being older and having electronic suspension(non R) more to fail, more expense to pay out). Here in the UK, part availability is scarce at the best of times. I hear the airbox on the 1190 is a major fail point?
I'd go for the non electronic suspension 1190R but as I'm a newish rider, I'm not 100% confident with the height of the thing at 880m, If I could lower it to 840/850mm I'd have one but not much online if regards to lowering it via a custom seat? Most suggest lowering springs which I don't want to do.
Anyway. I've gone slightly of topic haha.
I'm currently looking at a 2018 1090 Adventure(non R) 12k miles for £6100 with crash bars, addional lights, usb port, heated grips, quickshifter, centre stand and upgraded front fork cartridges and rear shock. Fully adjustable. Now, I know I can buy a genuine Cruise control kit for £500. So I'd be all in for £6600 and less prone to reliability issues.
A 2021 1290 Super adventure S is £11,400 but every owner has spoken of minor issues or major issues.
1190 is around the 6k mark, but is older, not as good suspension as the 1090, more power, not as smooth, but unless going with the R, I don't want another bike with loads of electronics as it's more to go wrong.. I also feel that if I bought the 1190 or 1290, it would diminish me wanting to ride my xsr900 on weekends as it's less powerful?
Be interested to hear your thoughts.
@@inked-96 WOW man, you really took your time with a great and complete answer, creds to you =)
I agree with everything you wrote, the 1090 actually feels a bit more agile when you are riding it, so obviously what it says on the scale is not everything. Compared to your 1250GSA I bet they will all feel more agile and lighter when riding right ? And you are absolutely right about things to go wrong with more electronics, especially on these almost 10 year old bikes.
Even though I have had 5 different KTM's and have a 690 Enduro -2020 right now, I never recommend KTM's to my buddies. All my KTM's and also my friends KTM's has had troubled and problems/issues. Both brand new and after some years =(
So far I have had no problems with electronics, but I have had engine failures, recalls on new bikes about the brakes and that hydralic Magura cluth they have on many of their bikes which often has issues. So I would never take a KTM around the world if I am completely honest man.
They are very fun bikes, but If you can find another brand to take around the world, I would suggest you do from one rider to another. I have never had any problems with the electronic suspension on my two KTM's I have had and nor have any of my friends. The latest bike I had with electronic suuspension was the 2017 Super Duke GT, it worked like a charm I really loved that suspension. But I had an engine failure on that bike, they switched the whole engine out under warranty and after that I traded it in.
However, if you absolutely must have a KTM to take around the world, I would agree that the 1090 adventure which is a pretty basic bike, would be one of the better options, especially if you can find a good value one with low miles on it.
Did you know that KTM has had so much problems with electronics breaking under warranty that they removed electronics from the KTM warranty completely 2020 ?
You can look it up if you ever get a hold of what is covered in a new KTM bikes warranty, I saw it on forum and heard it from a friend that bought a brand new KTM Superduke 2021.
I have not seen the warranty papers for myself but if it is true, it says a lot about how much problems KTM has. Anyways man, I hope you have awesome adventures around the world in the future, I myself also travel through europe every year, but on sport touring bikes. I love it
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@mathias6423 Have you got IG or any socials? I'll drop you a message, would like to continue to 1090 topic.
Great ending mate, loved the comparison ;) test rode one of these after the 1290 duke and felt a little underwhelmed. Have you ridden the 1290 adventure? Couldn't help thinking that the 1090 had nothing on it except price.
I am testing the 1290 later in the year, really looking forward to it now!
Steal my sunshine was a bit of a nostalgia moment, for sure!
To be fair, though, every new bike you've ridden is the best one yet, so.... :P ;)
+Sunfrancks haha yes very true I just love bikes!! This is the one which suprised me the most. I never would have considered ever buying an adventure bike, now I definitely would and perhaps would even over super duke / Tuono... I've enjoyed riding this that much!
Ready to trade the 701 for one of these, mate?
I wonder if I could get the 701 to be comfortable enough for longer trips.
You steal my sunshine!!
I can't work out how the bike kept change colours in the last scene
Your not getting old mate ,just a little more open minded. I used to think the same as you about Adventure bikes.......never in a million years will I ride one of those,but I did test ride one and now I have one and love it! Go on try as many different bikes as you can and if it grabs your soul...............get it!
Thanks Neil, yeah absolutely agree!!
Lambs I need your help. I am leaving it up to you as I cannot choose.
I can buy either R6 2004 with power commander or R1 2001.
I have owned a R6 99 model before. So I know it is a ball of fun. But a big boy toy would be also nice.
HELP ME OUT HERE. R1 2001 or R6 2004. Let me know brah!!
+Tanker Review go for the R1!! Loved the 2004 version
I did.. And WOW. I was like OM I need to change of pants on the R6 the R1 is like.. I need a clean up crew.
OM The power it has...
Adventure..Adventure..Adventure..Adventure..Adventure..LOL How can you hate such a beautiful word? ;) The end of your vid is pretty funny! lol
If it suits you then go ahead. I have to admit, I love these things, and the GS. So comfortable and still has a shit tonne of poke. £11k? I thought they would be around the £15k mark! As long as you dont need to filter a load then theyre great bikes
Yeah I thought they would be more expensive tbh.. 11k isnt that bad is it...
Cool vid and tunes chops !
Brilliant end of video !
I liked the IDS wheelie at the end 😂😂😂.
hehe, well would be rude not too :-)
Isnt that the super moto touring model and not the adventure?
Thumbs up for your beach adventure ;)
Love KTM they could make a "step through" exciting.
I think some form of wheelie montage on this is in order haha
Was never about artistic beauty motorsickeling. Was the Brits that tried to convince the rest of us that yours was . It worked , and a lot of machines were sold . Like you I bought into it . Was the Japanese that showed us what fine engineering is , and it ant pretty nether . Was the Italians adding beauty into the equation that did and still do own that market . Thanks
Great bike and Video..i habe the 1090r amazing bikes..greetings from germany
I have the 1050 and reliability stinks
What song? I cannot place it.... Oh--3 KTMs in the garage--ADV 1190R; Superduke 1290 R; XCf250--and No--they do not spend all their time in the shop. Neither did the other 7 I have owned. But a ADV1290S for USA would get me to trade the 1190R.....
Its Len, steal my sunshine. wow youve quite the collection of bike jammy git :-)
There might be a custom cafe Ducati GT1000 Sport Classic for the coffee shops rides amongst them as well.
Amazing post thanks!
Hi lamp chops I am back from Saudi on the 14th July meet for a brew at loomies at some point
Yes sounds good Jack, Im there most weds evening for a brew and a chat buddy
I dont mind these, Take the box off and get a decent can on the end and make it a bit Dakar looking
Yeah it would look a million times better with the chopbox off :-) I may take it off and have a look now!
We've got an 1190 Adventure in where I work and strangely, it's been tempting me then whole time it's been there! 😅.
I might have to take it out for a spin if I get the chance now!
Yes defo worth trying it out! :-)
Love that bike.
Wow that edit changed radically from the old ones
Is the seat comfy for a long ride?
Great review!
I think you had a very big grin going on here
I'm gonna rent one of these on my next holiday
Didn't KTM limit the rpm on last year's 1090 ??... have they scraped that on this? Guess so, cos I reckon you'd of mentioned it !! 😉
Great review chops! Have you been off at the Speilberg school of production cos that was top notch !! 👍
Thanks Zippy, the old version was restricted but now its full power! 120 HP if I remember correctly...
The old one was only 94ps. So it could be limited for A2 licence holders. Ran out of steam before it ever got going died @ 7k i think
That bike is only 16 kilo's heavier than my honda varadero 125 lol, great vid chop's the bike the music and the weather, just make's me want to jump on the bike and go on one, destination anywhere ! then a realized it's 11-30 pm lol, maybe tomorrow yeah defo,
+Daz070 haha yes, it's only slightly heaver than the GSXS750 too! Really rather mad!
Excellent vid again !!! 👌👌👌 Be aware mate, you'll end up buying Land Rover Evoque, sell "Beastie" & your road warrior soul ... Amen 😇😇😇. The KTM SuperDuke GT must be tested though. 😉 ✌️✌️✌️
Thanks Matey, yeah Super Duke GT is coming to France with me on a road trip!! CANNY WAIT
Good stuff, enjoyed the review. Subbed
Your a beach racing God
but now you've done this one, what about others in its class?
Yes I will test some others for sure, 129 Super Adventure will be coming along with the SuperDuke GT bit different but still touring capable. May also borrow some of the Suzuki Vstroms for a budget option
Lovely. I fancy one of them there machines. Might be a bit tall for my body though. About 30yrs ago I was on Hayling with a mate. We'd gone down in his Range Rover. Fortunate as it turns out as a guy in a Rover P5B decided it would be a good idea to drive onto that stone beach to show off a bit. Guess the outcome..
Wow something different nice
You touched on it a little bit, but this vs the 701?
+Jelmer van der Meer very different... you can still have all most the same fun on this, yes it's heavier but it's faster for sure.. it can do great second gear wheelies.. it's more versatile for sure, more comfortable, faster & you can tour and do distance with luggage... if you could only have 1 bike.. I think it could be this!
I need this bike in my life.
It might be a good bike. Im just not there yet.
hahahah great way to end a video ! BTW nice wheelie
Thanks Mauro :-)
Just missing cruise control. Then it would probably be my next bike
I just had the 666th like and I can hear the devil is whispering in my ear: "Oi! Why don't you buy one of these and start ripping through the twisties mate?!" 3:)
So you mean to tell me that going to work and back 20 min on the motorway isn't an adventure?
When your doing 90mph off road standing up it’s more exhilarating than getting your knee down on grippy tarmac.
Ride Around Wow. I’d really like to see that. That’s about 145 km/h isn’t it? Might try that soon. I’ll be on the Oodnadatta Track in early July. Ride safely!
Dug the Len montage. That song was me and the exes song while we were together, oddly enough.
I think these bikes are worth their weight in gold for crunching miles, just a shame us short asses have issues haha
Yeah I would imagine it could be a handful for a shorter rider.. At times ive struggled with it pushing it around the place
Is this The 2017 version?
Yes Patrick