Hi Missensen, great review as always. I too love the look of this and the colour is very striking. I have the tiger 800 currently, but could be pulled towards this one for its looks. keep up the good work.
+Phil Bell Thank you Phil, if you like the Tiger 800 then I think you'd love this. Very similar riding position but a bit more poke from the slightly bigger engine....worth a test ride?
Picking my 1090 adventure 2017 up from hemel on Saturday! Took out a demo model yesterday and had it for a few hours. All I'd say is that it's a stop gap for the 1290 S in a year or 2's time. Fantastic bike. Cracking video, helped me make my mind up.
Great review. I’m currently riding my Explorer 1200 XC on a European tour & finding the top heaviness a real problem when pushing the bike around & low speed manoeuvring. Dropped it on 2nd day. It looks like the KTM 1090 could be ideal replacement 👍👍
Wonder if this is the same one I used as a curtsey bike yesterday now running near 12k miles and not feeling so "tight" haha. Seat is still hard though :)
This is the KTM I'm zeroing in on now. It's right between the 1290 and 790 and not too many bells and whistles I'll never use. Are you allergic to the dirt by any chance? Thank you.
I have just had a look at one of these this afternoon, i went to look at the f800/850 gs. This is more comfortable, and easier to get my feet down and it feels better built and finished. I was surprised and my thoughts are turning orange!
A great review just what I was waiting for. In your opinion would it be worth upgrading from the XRX to this bike they are about the same weight, have approximately the same range, all the same modes etc (albeit implemented clumsily but then the XRX has cruise control)?
+Gordon Waltham Personally I'm not sure you'd gain much in doing so (except a bit more acceleration)....I think it comes down to which you like the look of most and whether your XRX is getting long in the tooth or if you just fancy a change...
Thank you TMF, very interesting, I don''t really need any more acceleration than the Tiger, I only use it for the ride (locally) and like you (I presume), my wife is not interested, says it's to cold, to windy and to dangerous, cant argue with that, so will probably wait for the next Tiger 800 upgrade (or down grade), perhaps you could ask Triumph if that's likely. I really like you reviews as they give you a feeling of what it would be like to own the bike, you don't get that with magazine reviewers. I'm pretty sure most are unbiased, but by necessity, have to just give you the basic facts, there's nothing wrong with that and is part of information gathering, but not quite as good as the experience that you give. PS: after my comment about engaging the cruise control on the XRx (sorry out of context with this review), I had another look at the manual and didn't find anything other than "engage cruise control by pressing the "Engage" button", so was looking at the bike (like you do) and fiddling with the buttons when I noticed that the "Cruise Control" button is actually a LATCHING button (not mentioned in the manual), lo and behold you can leave it "latched" (Engaged) all the time it is then a simple action of pressing the "Set" button (top button) or if previously set (since turning on the ignition), the "Resume" button (bottom button). As the "Engage" button is latching and can be left set. I do not see the point of it, as cruise control can be disengaged by rolling off the throttle, touching either brake or the clutch, I suppose it's probably some "Euro" requirement! Sorry for the over long reply 😴
"Nobody likes drama at the back end..........." took me a little bit by surprise that comment coming from you.Love it.Great review and more of the same please.
Hey, I've got an off-topic question regarding your audio setup. Do you just hook up your lavalier mic to your Go Pro via the 3,5mm to USB adapter? Also, where do you place the mic itself - inside the helmet? If so, how does it record ambient sounds - motorcycle engine, passing traffic, etc.? Does the lavalier mic just pick up these sounds by itself, while in helmet?
One of the best reviewers on youtube! Have you had a go on the Versys1000? Seems like it would compete with a lot of the adventure style bikes you're reviewing lately :)
+neeklondon Thank you for saying so neeklondon - I've not ridden a Versys yet but I would love too, just need to befriend a Kawasaki dealer to let me borrow one to review!
Very nice review! So, does it really seem to be more powerful than the Tiger Sport (since they both advertise 125hp)? And how did you see the build quality and finish in comparison to the Triumph?
Yes the KTM definitely feels as if it accelerates significantly faster, in terms of build quality both the KTM and the Tiger Sport are finished beautifully, nothing to choose between them on that front. I think it comes down to which you like the look of most and whether you like the sprightly twin or the grunty triple engine....
Would you consider changing your GS for one, I'm thinking of trading up my little 650gs for something with a bit more go, I must give one of these a try.
Have you tried blade Ducati in Abingdon? Always find them a pleasure to deal with. I would have thought that it's free exposure for them and their product, would be a no brainer to me, they have the demo bikes there to ride...
I like this one. Went to the dealer and hopped on. I'm 5'7" and couldn't get enough of my foot on the ground to get it off the stand. It was the R version. Don't know if that makes a difference, but I'd want at least 2" of lowering.
What a shame, I don't know why bike manufacturers insist on making their bikes only for Dutch people, to me it's key to my confidence to be able to get my feet to the deck....
Hi Mate could you try and do a review of the Royal Enfield Continental GT also may I know which exhaust was fitted to the RE Classic 500 bcoz it wasn't standard for sure. Thanks in advance.
Hello mate, are you able to do a review of the new V Strom 1000 and the Multistrada 950? I have the V Strom so I'm biased, but I think the 950 to 1050 adventure bike category is great, often the right balance between power and weight etc...
Love your videos and a fan from the Philippines. Look forward to your reviews given we have about the same height and likes the same bikes. Looking at the stats you would think KTM only caters to Viking gods as customers
Now that was a thorough, enjoyable review! It amuses how once bikes break 200 kg, manufacturers start quoting dry weight to us. I come from a lightweight sportbike background and 200 kg seems already on the heavy side to me. LOL! I've never owned a "big" touring bike. I don't have a long commute and this bike would be wasted for that trip, but it seems like it would lend itself to long weekend getaways? With some slightly more aggressive tires I assume you could handle dry dirt roads, packed gravel and the like?
Another good review. I love this bike, but unfortunately in Australia they are only selling the R off road focussed model. Hopefully they might change their mind on this.
I assume you've ridden the R then Stizzy? Like you say, great bike with a brilliant engine - much quicker than I anticipated...thanks for watching - TMF
As you seem to like testing the adventure bike market,what about getting yourself out on the new Africa Twin,I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this. Keep up the good work,I really like the content and variation of your channel.
The KTM 1090 is only available in the "R" model in Canada, would you say that this more off-road biased version of the bike would be driven similarly on the road as the regular model? With the biggest difference being the 18/21 inches wheel instead of 17/19 inches wheel
Obviously not as spectacular as the various 1290 Adventures, R, S and I think T. But given the price and it seems still very capable, might be a smart option for lengthy commuting and touring. Though as others mentioned, cruise control would be a major bonus. As I've thought before, Hemel's not that far away... And another great review!
The styling of some KTM bikes is a bit over the top for me but that one is really nice. Already got a v-twin though. If I get another one I might look like a bit of a train spotter. Anyway, great review as always. Cheers.
Howdy, loving these reviews and being a somewhat height challenged and not wanting to get too personal but you say your 5 ft 8 but what is your inside leg?
TheMissendenFlyer well standard jeans are 32" long is "34 and short cut aka mine is 30". If your jeans aren't scuffing the floor you should be able to figure it from that.
Hello, very successful your comments and happiness for your channel. But, between the Yamaha Super Ténéré 1200 and the KTM 1090 with which you would stay? Thank you.....
Nice one thks.Is it possible for you to take the dirt orientated bikes off on the dirt at some time and pass comment(Just easy dirt farm rd's),cheers B
Old review (but great thank you) but this bike is my budget option if I can't find a MTS 950s within budget. The value for money seems greater than the base MTS 950 which you said you hadn't ridden at the time. I wonder how you would compare the two now?
Greetings, I am an old dirtbiker wanting to get a street bike, my main concern is the weight of a street bike so I am looking to get a smaller displacement machine like the KTM RC 390 or the new Ninja 400, I have seen your review of the KTM and was wondering if you were going to review the Ninja 400, I would be very interested in that, I appreciate your expertise and no fluff approach to your bike reviews and I thank you for your efforts for us fellow riders,Cheers!
Nice bike, but I don't think I'll be selling my 300lb. '16 690ER for one. Seems the power to weight ratio is pretty close. For anywhere I'd take a 470lb bike, I'd look to a FJ09 with the awesome Yamaha 850 triple, maybe ad some 70/30 tires, for ~ $4K less, and lower seat height, BTW, is that a muffler or a pannier?
Very highly - both gorgeous bikes, I think the KTM might just pip it for me though, lovely to ride....just doesn't have the looks (or theatre of) the Ducati....
Mr tmf...seeing it appears you have a "special relationship "with the local dealers any chance you could do a review on the new 1290 adventure R... their not out here in oz at the moment but i'm keen to see how the new dash works out along with C of G, handling etc... Don't get me wrong I'm a big BMW fan having owned 2 gsa lc's but i have too say whilst I believe the bmw would be more refined I could be tempted to buy one if the price was right as weight wise their basically the same its either that or the new BMW rallye.. (extra e for more rallyness apparently :-))
The 1090 Adv is far from a "Baby bike". Designed as the successor to the 990 Adv, this 1090 (although not a R) is cut from the cloth of the large enduros.
Another great review! I'm a little surprised that with the mileage range this bike has KTM didn't add cruise control. Ducati also missed an opportunity to add it to the new 950 which by the way you should test ride for us! I get that these companies are trying to target a certain price point for these bikes but in my opinion leaving out cruise control as standard feature on a touring bike is a major omission.
Yeah, I noticed later and ninja-edited but you beat me to it! ;) Did you try sport mode? or is that ? You will definitely have to try sport on the SA S and see how it compares to the SD R.
You may be 5'8", but what is your inside leg measurement? Not everyone is going to be proportioned the same and it seems odd to me that people provide their height as a reference to how well they can hold the bike (to me at least). Then I'm 6ft with slightly longer legs and a shorter body so I don't really know why i'm nitpicking, but its just an oddity i've noticed amongst youtubers/reviewers.
I found the Africa Twin to be a bit, "meh". I was truly disappointed because I imagined it'd would be my next bike, then I rode it and just found it utterly boring - and this is from someone who uses an NC700X for the daily commute.
It's better looking than the new 1290 with those awful new headlights. Who the hell is responsible for that mess. He or she needs a lesson in design work of an attractive nature.
how is the reliability holding up? I've had problems with oil leaks, hydraulic clutch fluid leaks, front brake disk warping and broken latch on sale bag.
this bike is now on top of my shopping list together with Multistrada 950, looking forward to the test rides. Having ridden both would you be leaning towards one of them more then other...?
2017 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom would be a good competitor. DL has IMU cornering ABS. Not that much more weight, and slightly less peak HP. Oh and the 1090 has a 1,050cc engine.
You're welcome! Yeah I've demo'd the 1190 Adv bike and the Vstrom 1000 (2016, before current udpate). Both great machines. I'm not as wild about the new 1090 because it's lost some power and has become more off-road biased. I understand why they did it, however.
You say this is very light for this type of bike; my 2005 BMW R1200GS weighed in (and still does) at 199kg dry and 225kg wet. Obviously power is down on a new bike, but the power to weight ratio and handling of my lighter bike means that an "upgrade" to a newer machine would be a backward step, especially as I am getting older and weaker instead of younger and stronger. Luckily, thanks to efforts of BMW to lighten the 1200GS when they first made it, I am still the one waiting for the others to catch up. (although a lot if that is due to my big screen stopping fatigue over long distances)
TheMissendenFlyer Well, I nearly thought I could manage the extra few kilos, and asked for a date and time and place for the swap, then I remembered my vario boxes and shaft drive, so sorry, no deal this time. All that aside, I really appreciate you great reviews, which I watch as soon as you release them, and I'm sure you appreciate my point, so many modern bigger bikes are now well over 225kg, and a bit of a handful for us pensioners, even some 650s and 800s are heavier than my old model 1200.
Its funny how peoples expectations of motorcycles have evolved over the years. When i was a teenager, everyone rode 600 and 900's, and you had these monster machines with 1100 cc's. These days, a 1050cc machine is "entry level".
Haha! Loving the insult towards Chesham's not so picturesque scenery. Great review bud, you got lucky getting through the magic roundabout without much waiting.
...hehe, I think you just have to thing positive on that roundabout! ....and I wouldn't dream of insulting Chesham, it has some of my favourite charity shops! :0)
Pity KTM don't make a Super Duke R with this engine, that would be an awesome bike, (who really needs 177 hp) and it would be the perfect bike to fill that huge gap between the 790 Duke & the 1290 SDR. Maybe one day :)
@@muhammadhafidz3238 For me, I'd really like a 1290 SDR, I currently own a 690 Duke R. I love the shape and size of the 1290 SDR, it's great for a tall rider, and it's a great looking bike !, But, I really don't need 177hp, and I definitely dont need the price tag :), so really a 1090 SDR would be the answer, I bet it would sell by the bucket load, especially if they could sell it for around £10K. And it would be easy for KTM as I'm pretty sure the 1290 and 1090 engines are same physical size. Also, would be a bit like the way Ducati have the 1200 and 821, both same frame.
It is a expensive here. Small country and government is controlling automobiles here to avoid overcrowding. Goverment is encouraging us to take public transport. What more can you expect when it'll only take you 1hour to get from one end tot the other .Only the rich could afford it here. For me I don't think its worthy for that price. Cheers bro...from Singapore.
Love your videos mate, absolutely great reviews. Would love it, provided it is legal in the UK, if you could stand up riding on adventure bikes and include it in the review. Cheers from Sydney, Australia.
Not sure why are you calling it a "baby" bike mate. 1.1 litre 125hp bike is a baby bike you should be riding a boss hoss :) If you want a swiss army bike this is the ultimate bike. 1290 are borderline wide for London, not to mention insurance, unless you have a garage you will not be insured in central (from theft). 1290 are a bigger financial loss in case your bike will actually get nicked. Tighter wheelbase greater range. If I overlooked any do it all bikes which are roughly the same power, size(same or smaller), please correct me.
TheMissendenFlyer don't take offence mate, just the way you said it and then "entry level" made me consider saving up a bit and going for 1290, but that would be an incorrect choice in my case. Otherwise doing a good job, as far as I know you're the first english vloger to review this bike, keep it up.
Shouldn't the police detain the criminals who knick those bikes with a tracker?? I've heard from someone in a video that british police did not/ or do not(?) actually arrest the criminal after being provided with the location of the bike from a tracker?! This is what we've come to...?
Tried it a few weeks ago in Spain. Very nice motor, but I found the heat arriving at my upper left leg very annoying. Wind protection with my length (1m90) insufficient.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Hi, would you mind elaborating on this please? I'm currently down to choosing between these two bikes, so I would be really interested to hear more. Thanks.
I think the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers pushed the new Euro-standard for these massive near silent cans. The aftermarket exhaust makers must laugh their way to the bank with all these huge cans that come standard. Who would actually keep that on the bike?
Scott Peterson Yep. First thing I did to my 1290SA was take the can off - it's enormous, ugly, and heavy (not a good combination). The Flyer makes a good point about seats too...my 1290SA seat was okay, bearable, but I wanted the sculpted single sear rather than the dual seats that are stock (and the single seat really improved comfort and rideability). Add a decent can and seat, and you've increased the bike's price by ~10%.
Too bad i'm only 5'2' lol, the only ktm bike that seems perfect to me is a duke 390 with a lowering kit, but i don't like the sound of a 1 cylinder engine. :(
Open the throttle with authority and let 'er rip hard a couple times. We need to know what the thing is capable of. :P The KTM demo guys here in the USA where I live give the usual shpeel about responsibility, road manners, any citations, and what KTM corporate has zero tolerance about......and then proceed to lead the group on a wild high speed goose chase down the backroads. It's brilliant. I've used all of the performance of the 1290 models and seen how they can rip around the curves. Glad KTM corporate isn't stuffy about allowing people to feel out the bikes.
you have rapidly developed into one of the best real world reviewers on here, been watching for ages and enjoy everything you post cheers.
+David C Thank you very much David, appreciate you saying so....
Perfectly said! I've become a big fan over the month.
Thanks for this great review. I have one of these in mind and think I may get it after this! Thanks again. Top channel.
Hi Missensen, great review as always. I too love the look of this and the colour is very striking. I have the tiger 800 currently, but could be pulled towards this one for its looks. keep up the good work.
+Phil Bell Thank you Phil, if you like the Tiger 800 then I think you'd love this. Very similar riding position but a bit more poke from the slightly bigger engine....worth a test ride?
Thank you for this detailed review! Looking forward for some great videos.
You're welcome - thanks for watching...
A nice review thank you. Thorough and entertaining as ever.
+melodicsenior Thank you - I'm glad you think so :0)
Picking my 1090 adventure 2017 up from hemel on Saturday! Took out a demo model yesterday and had it for a few hours. All I'd say is that it's a stop gap for the 1290 S in a year or 2's time. Fantastic bike. Cracking video, helped me make my mind up.
Glad to be of help Codian! Say hello to Jason and the guys at Hemel from me when you see them - congratulations on the new bike!
Great review agin. How does this compare to the v-Strom 1000?
Great review. I’m currently riding my Explorer 1200 XC on a European tour & finding the top heaviness a real problem when pushing the bike around & low speed manoeuvring. Dropped it on 2nd day. It looks like the KTM 1090 could be ideal replacement 👍👍
Drama at the back end? Thought I was watching the Crumble for a second ;)
Great review as always btw
+melciveng You would be amazed how similar Mr Crumble and I really are - I like to think of him as the Moriarty to my Sherlock....
Another good review. I'm off Tuono shopping!
Oooh, have fun :0)
Wonder if this is the same one I used as a curtsey bike yesterday now running near 12k miles and not feeling so "tight" haha. Seat is still hard though :)
Great review. I'd have to go for the R but if a designated street bike were on the list it would be a sweetie.
This is the KTM I'm zeroing in on now. It's right between the 1290 and 790 and not too many bells and whistles I'll never use. Are you allergic to the dirt by any chance? Thank you.
I have just had a look at one of these this afternoon, i went to look at the f800/850 gs. This is more comfortable, and easier to get my feet down and it feels better built and finished. I was surprised and my thoughts are turning orange!
Good Afternoon TMF A nice bike a good review and video. Thank you enjoy the rest of your weekend
+Wayne Compton Thank you Wayne, you too...
A great review just what I was waiting for. In your opinion would it be worth upgrading from the XRX to this bike they are about the same weight, have approximately the same range, all the same modes etc (albeit implemented clumsily but then the XRX has cruise control)?
+Gordon Waltham Personally I'm not sure you'd gain much in doing so (except a bit more acceleration)....I think it comes down to which you like the look of most and whether your XRX is getting long in the tooth or if you just fancy a change...
Thank you TMF, very interesting, I don''t really need any more acceleration than the Tiger, I only use it for the ride (locally) and like you (I presume), my wife is not interested, says it's to cold, to windy and to dangerous, cant argue with that, so will probably wait for the next Tiger 800 upgrade (or down grade), perhaps you could ask Triumph if that's likely.
I really like you reviews as they give you a feeling of what it would be like to own the bike, you don't get that with magazine reviewers. I'm pretty sure most are unbiased, but by necessity, have to just give you the basic facts, there's nothing wrong with that and is part of information gathering, but not quite as good as the experience that you give.
PS: after my comment about engaging the cruise control on the XRx (sorry out of context with this review), I had another look at the manual and didn't find anything other than "engage cruise control by pressing the "Engage" button", so was looking at the bike (like you do) and fiddling with the buttons when I noticed that the "Cruise Control" button is actually a LATCHING button (not mentioned in the manual), lo and behold you can leave it "latched" (Engaged) all the time it is then a simple action of pressing the "Set" button (top button) or if previously set (since turning on the ignition), the "Resume" button (bottom button). As the "Engage" button is latching and can be left set. I do not see the point of it, as cruise control can be disengaged by rolling off the throttle, touching either brake or the clutch, I suppose it's probably some "Euro" requirement!
Sorry for the over long reply 😴
"Nobody likes drama at the back end..........." took me a little bit by surprise that comment coming from you.Love it.Great review and more of the same please.
+Hedge hog Cheers HH, you really don't know me at all do you ;0) Thanks for the kind comments - all the best- TMF
how many times have i seen you make comments on pedestrians or joggers :)
Hey, I've got an off-topic question regarding your audio setup. Do you just hook up your lavalier mic to your Go Pro via the 3,5mm to USB adapter? Also, where do you place the mic itself - inside the helmet? If so, how does it record ambient sounds - motorcycle engine, passing traffic, etc.? Does the lavalier mic just pick up these sounds by itself, while in helmet?
+Reinis Traidās answers: yes. Yes. It just does. Yes
One of the best reviewers on youtube! Have you had a go on the Versys1000? Seems like it would compete with a lot of the adventure style bikes you're reviewing lately :)
+neeklondon Thank you for saying so neeklondon - I've not ridden a Versys yet but I would love too, just need to befriend a Kawasaki dealer to let me borrow one to review!
Very nice review! So, does it really seem to be more powerful than the Tiger Sport (since they both advertise 125hp)?
And how did you see the build quality and finish in comparison to the Triumph?
Yes the KTM definitely feels as if it accelerates significantly faster, in terms of build quality both the KTM and the Tiger Sport are finished beautifully, nothing to choose between them on that front. I think it comes down to which you like the look of most and whether you like the sprightly twin or the grunty triple engine....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I have a KTM 1050 Adventure and the reliability has been poor
Great review as usual. Now for the 1290 S !!!!
+Roger Morello its very much on the TMF radar Roger! Stay tuned....
cheers bud
Nice machine, definitely on my shortlist when I eventually bin the VFR. I miss the old title sequence though!
Me too!
Would you consider changing your GS for one, I'm thinking of trading up my little 650gs for something with a bit more go, I must give one of these a try.
+Womanwolfrider Err, no I don't think so - I'd miss the integrated satnav on the GS (how sad is that!)
Well done.
Is the quick-shifter optional for the 1090?
Comparatives any time soon? Please...
I don't honestly know - sorry!
Good review, I’m tempted by either this Ktm or the Honda Africa twin. Which did you prefer and why?
I'd take the KTM - Much more exciting bike to ride, lovely engine...
Hi, any comments about the hot- overheating engine? Is it a deal breaker vs Africa Twin?
Nice one. The A2 version is it like the previous model 1050 with a kit or totally different bike with 35kw engine?
+gloryths I don't honestly know, I assume the same restricted with a kit, but I'm guessing....
Would love you to try this vs the Ducati Multistrada 950 - I think that my Multistrada 1200 and KTM 1290 are overpowered
Yes I'd love to give the Ducati a go too - maybe one day if Ducati will speak to me :0)
Have you tried blade Ducati in Abingdon? Always find them a pleasure to deal with. I would have thought that it's free exposure for them and their product, would be a no brainer to me, they have the demo bikes there to ride...
I might have to check them out then! Cheers - TMF
I like this one. Went to the dealer and hopped on. I'm 5'7" and couldn't get enough of my foot on the ground to get it off the stand. It was the R version. Don't know if that makes a difference, but I'd want at least 2" of lowering.
What a shame, I don't know why bike manufacturers insist on making their bikes only for Dutch people, to me it's key to my confidence to be able to get my feet to the deck....
Hi Mate could you try and do a review of the Royal Enfield Continental GT also may I know which exhaust was fitted to the RE Classic 500 bcoz it wasn't standard for sure. Thanks in advance.
I'll try! ...and that was a custom exhaust I believe made at the dealers...thanks for watching - TMF
Hello mate, are you able to do a review of the new V Strom 1000 and the Multistrada 950? I have the V Strom so I'm biased, but I think the 950 to 1050 adventure bike category is great, often the right balance between power and weight etc...
+T Dubber Sadly I don't (yet) have contacts with any friendly Ducati or Suzuki dealers...but I am working on it! Stay tuned....
Am looking forward to seeing the 790 KTM in a year! :-)
+Hippo-Drones :0)
Love your videos and a fan from the Philippines. Look forward to your reviews given we have about the same height and likes the same bikes. Looking at the stats you would think KTM only caters to Viking gods as customers
Great review as always. Not sure why we didn't get the 1050 in the states, and now probably the 1090. We get everything else, rather odd.
+cpuspeed Very odd indeed!
Now that was a thorough, enjoyable review!
It amuses how once bikes break 200 kg, manufacturers start quoting dry weight to us. I come from a lightweight sportbike background and 200 kg seems already on the heavy side to me. LOL!
I've never owned a "big" touring bike. I don't have a long commute and this bike would be wasted for that trip, but it seems like it would lend itself to long weekend getaways? With some slightly more aggressive tires I assume you could handle dry dirt roads, packed gravel and the like?
+giff74 Thanks - and yes I would think so, it is a proper beast though....cheers for watching - TMF
How’s the vibration if any and engine heat? Heard kTm are extremely hot especially at low city speeds. One of the reasons I sold my Tiger Xcx.
Thanks.
No vibration at all - engine heat not too bad ( but then I ride a Panigale!!)
Another good review. I love this bike, but unfortunately in Australia they are only selling the R off road focussed model. Hopefully they might change their mind on this.
I assume you've ridden the R then Stizzy? Like you say, great bike with a brilliant engine - much quicker than I anticipated...thanks for watching - TMF
Nice video buddy 👍
Thank you!
As you seem to like testing the adventure bike market,what about getting yourself out on the new Africa Twin,I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.
Keep up the good work,I really like the content and variation of your channel.
+Philip Roberts Its already booked in the diary for a couple of weeks time Philip, so stay tuned!
are there lowering kits for the ktm 1090 and what do you think of lowering kits
+m prox34 There aren't any official KTM lowering kits but there may be aftermarket ones - I have no problem with them personally...
The KTM 1090 is only available in the "R" model in Canada, would you say that this more off-road biased version of the bike would be driven similarly on the road as the regular model? With the biggest difference being the 18/21 inches wheel instead of 17/19 inches wheel
Yes I would have thought so, I bet I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.....great bike.
Obviously not as spectacular as the various 1290 Adventures, R, S and I think T. But given the price and it seems still very capable, might be a smart option for lengthy commuting and touring. Though as others mentioned, cruise control would be a major bonus. As I've thought before, Hemel's not that far away...
And another great review!
Thank you Gary...get down to the KTM centre and take a test ride, they're a very friendly bunch!
for the section after the walk round, i wonder why you hsd to cover up the screen showing the speed??
Indeed, I wonder....
The styling of some KTM bikes is a bit over the top for me but that one is really nice. Already got a v-twin though. If I get another one I might look like a bit of a train spotter. Anyway, great review as always. Cheers.
Thanks Steve....
lovely bike indeed. to me can is must go to heavy looking. cheers for another good review
Not quite sure I can work out what you're saying there Vstm but thanks for watching and stopping by as ever!
meant: the end can must go (away) to be replaced with some nice aftermarket one. stock one is big and ugly
That indicator was actually to indicate that you were exceeding recommended break in engine speed.
Why did you feel it was comparable to the Tiger 800 ( @14:42 ) and not the 1050 sport?
Yes that too....
Did you intentionally blur the speedo during that passing move in the first part?
Err, no??
Howdy, loving these reviews and being a somewhat height challenged and not wanting to get too personal but you say your 5 ft 8 but what is your inside leg?
+Moto Joshing Several people have asked this - I'm afraid I don't know, but I will endeavour to find out!!
TheMissendenFlyer well standard jeans are 32" long is "34 and short cut aka mine is 30". If your jeans aren't scuffing the floor you should be able to figure it from that.
+Moto Joshing let's go for 32" then, same as my waist - perhaps that's how it's supposed to work!!
Hello, very successful your comments and happiness for your channel.
But, between the Yamaha Super Ténéré 1200 and the KTM 1090 with which you would stay?
Thank you.....
Hmm tough one, both great bikes, Yamaha by a whisker?
Thank you very much for your reply. A hug.....
I own a KTM 1050 Adventure and the reliability is poor. I'd recommend the Africa twin or the 700 Tenere
Nice one thks.Is it possible for you to take the dirt orientated bikes off on the dirt at some time and pass comment(Just easy dirt farm rd's),cheers B
Old review (but great thank you) but this bike is my budget option if I can't find a MTS 950s within budget. The value for money seems greater than the base MTS 950 which you said you hadn't ridden at the time. I wonder how you would compare the two now?
Personally I prefer the MTS 950 - but that's mainly a looks thing!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah I agree and the base MTS is higher spec and only gives up
Do I buy one, or plumb for a better looking T700, or go crazy and buy a new Triumph Tiger 850 sport...... all great fun bikes
Choices choices!!!
Greetings, I am an old dirtbiker wanting to get a street bike, my main concern is the weight of a street bike so I am looking to get a smaller displacement machine like the KTM RC 390 or the new Ninja 400, I have seen your review of the KTM and was wondering if you were going to review the Ninja 400, I would be very interested in that, I appreciate your expertise and no fluff approach to your bike reviews and I thank you for your efforts for us fellow riders,Cheers!
I would like to but no firm plans at present - stay tuned! Thanks for the kind words - TMF
Nice bike, but I don't think I'll be selling my 300lb. '16 690ER for one. Seems the power to weight ratio is pretty close. For anywhere I'd take a 470lb bike, I'd look to a FJ09 with the awesome Yamaha 850 triple, maybe ad some 70/30 tires, for ~ $4K less, and lower seat height, BTW, is that a muffler or a pannier?
+Older&Wiser Fair enough....
Nice machines KTM 's. Too bad dealerships are few and far between here across the pond.
+T Sav Too bad indeed :0(
How do you rate the KTM 1090 compared to the Ducati 950 Multistrada?
Very highly - both gorgeous bikes, I think the KTM might just pip it for me though, lovely to ride....just doesn't have the looks (or theatre of) the Ducati....
Mr tmf...seeing it appears you have a "special relationship "with the local dealers any chance you could do a review on the new 1290 adventure R... their not out here in oz at the moment but i'm keen to see how the new dash works out along with C of G, handling etc... Don't get me wrong I'm a big BMW fan having owned 2 gsa lc's but i have too say whilst I believe the bmw would be more refined I could be tempted to buy one if the price was right as weight wise their basically the same its either that or the new BMW rallye.. (extra e for more rallyness apparently :-))
I don't yet have access to an "R" but I am just arranging a ride on the "S" in the next few days - any use to you??
The 1090 Adv is far from a "Baby bike". Designed as the successor to the 990 Adv, this 1090 (although not a R) is cut from the cloth of the large enduros.
Yes I agree - it is a relative term compared to the 1290 Super Adventure of course....
You do not understand anything from a motorcycle.expert number 1
Another great review! I'm a little surprised that with the mileage range this bike has KTM didn't add cruise control. Ducati also missed an opportunity to add it to the new 950 which by the way you should test ride for us! I get that these companies are trying to target a certain price point for these bikes but in my opinion leaving out cruise control as standard feature on a touring bike is a major omission.
I imagine you're right, plus trying to maintain a differentiation of models within their ranges....
7years later, thankfully a cruise control unit can be bought for it.
nice video, do they have bigger license plate lol
whats the avg fuel consuption you got?
+Ze Sousa No idea I'm afraid, I didn't have the bike for long enough to really notice...sorry about that!
How about a test of the new Royal Enfield Himalayan?
+Keith Ralfs As soon as one comes available to me Ralf I'll be reviewing one! Cheers....TMF
Excellent review,im glad KTM dropped the 1050 for this,and gave it more power.
+Kevin Westwood Yes a very nice machine this, nothing not to like (other than maybe the exhaust)....
All these huge exhausts are down to euro 4,are the servicing costs for KTMs expensive,600,6000 etc.
I made the mistake of buying the 1050 Adventure, I've had several reliability issues
is it quick and powerful as bmw gs?
Similar power, a bit quicker I'd say.....
That SAS must be getting really close now! ;)
Mine is coming with the ergo heated seat (20mm more padding). :)
This was the full 125hp version.....and stay tuned for the SA-S!
Yeah, I noticed later and ninja-edited but you beat me to it! ;)
Did you try sport mode? or is that ? You will definitely have to try sport on the SA S and see how it compares to the SD R.
Nice looking bike.
Yeah this one is pretty......erm...pretty isn't it...
You may be 5'8", but what is your inside leg measurement? Not everyone is going to be proportioned the same and it seems odd to me that people provide their height as a reference to how well they can hold the bike (to me at least). Then I'm 6ft with slightly longer legs and a shorter body so I don't really know why i'm nitpicking, but its just an oddity i've noticed amongst youtubers/reviewers.
+WiseWaffle Fair enough, I've no idea what my inside leg measurement is I'm afraid...thanks for watching and for stopping by, all the best - TMF
Appreciate your reviews, in a riding style I can identify with. Can you get you hands on some Honda bikes (other than the crf250)
Martin Concannon good idea. Try a super bike too like CBR600RR
I'm working on that Martin - stay tuned for an Africa Twin review over the next few weeks (fingers crossed)....
I'm working on that Decimus too :0)
I found the Africa Twin to be a bit, "meh". I was truly disappointed because I imagined it'd would be my next bike, then I rode it and just found it utterly boring - and this is from someone who uses an NC700X for the daily commute.
Try the Cross runner. Feels heavier than the NC but much more smile factor :)
Nice looking machine.
Yes, KTM have done a nice job on this one...
It's better looking than the new 1290 with those awful new headlights. Who the hell is responsible for that mess. He or she needs a lesson in design work of an attractive nature.
+Boz Actually I like the new lights!
Marc Russell i
I have a 1050, the 1090 is also 1050cc - just tuned differently
how is the reliability holding up? I've had problems with oil leaks, hydraulic clutch fluid leaks, front brake disk warping and broken latch on sale bag.
immediate competition to GS, how does it stand to it in your honest opinion?
It's got a great engine, but I don't like the looks so much personally and the GS is easier to man handle....
this bike is now on top of my shopping list together with Multistrada 950, looking forward to the test rides. Having ridden both would you be leaning towards one of them more then other...?
Yes, I prefer the KTM overall, but love the Ducati's looks.....dilemma!
It's a shame that KTM don't fit heated grips similar to the BMW versions. Sadly that wiring hanging down off the grips screams 'aftermarket' !
+Paul Harrison Yeah agreed!
Love from India
Good review ,But I think you need to have a go at the Ducati 950
+Martin Holman Yeah Id love a go on one of those puppies, love the look of the MTS...
2017 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom would be a good competitor. DL has IMU cornering ABS. Not that much more weight, and slightly less peak HP.
Oh and the 1090 has a 1,050cc engine.
+Lifted_Above Yes I hope to ride a Vstrom soon (and yes my mistake on the 1090)....thanks for watching - TMF
You're welcome! Yeah I've demo'd the 1190 Adv bike and the Vstrom 1000 (2016, before current udpate). Both great machines. I'm not as wild about the new 1090 because it's lost some power and has become more off-road biased. I understand why they did it, however.
You say this is very light for this type of bike; my 2005 BMW R1200GS weighed in (and still does) at 199kg dry and 225kg wet. Obviously power is down on a new bike, but the power to weight ratio and handling of my lighter bike means that an "upgrade" to a newer machine would be a backward step, especially as I am getting older and weaker instead of younger and stronger. Luckily, thanks to efforts of BMW to lighten the 1200GS when they first made it, I am still the one waiting for the others to catch up. (although a lot if that is due to my big screen stopping fatigue over long distances)
...fair point, so if I offered you a brand new KTM 1090 in exchange for your 2005 GS you'd say no would you? :0) Thanks for watching - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer Well, I nearly thought I could manage the extra few kilos, and asked for a date and time and place for the swap, then I remembered my vario boxes and shaft drive, so sorry, no deal this time. All that aside, I really appreciate you great reviews, which I watch as soon as you release them, and I'm sure you appreciate my point, so many modern bigger bikes are now well over 225kg, and a bit of a handful for us pensioners, even some 650s and 800s are heavier than my old model 1200.
+27jollytall oh yes I completely get the point - thanks for watching, all the best - TMF
199kg dry for a Beemer 1200 GS. Sorry mate but I find that hard to believe. They are a big and chunky bike.
I’m looking at a second hand 1090 r in excellent condition w/6000 miles. Always wanted one but also looking at Yamaha tenere’. Opinions anyone.
Its funny how peoples expectations of motorcycles have evolved over the years. When i was a teenager, everyone rode 600 and 900's, and you had these monster machines with 1100 cc's. These days, a 1050cc machine is "entry level".
trust me its not even entry level today
No centre stand??
+jason backes Not on this one no....may be an option but I'm afraid I don't know off the top of my head....
nice, good review ......... but now I want you on a Africa twin..... go for it 👍😀
+Mikael Lund Sørensen Stay tuned, its in the diary!
Haha! Loving the insult towards Chesham's not so picturesque scenery. Great review bud, you got lucky getting through the magic roundabout without much waiting.
...hehe, I think you just have to thing positive on that roundabout! ....and I wouldn't dream of insulting Chesham, it has some of my favourite charity shops! :0)
Hey. i am 12 and i realy want a ktm when i grow up.... cuz i hate cars.
hell yeah buddy
Pity KTM don't make a Super Duke R with this engine, that would be an awesome bike, (who really needs 177 hp) and it would be the perfect bike to fill that huge gap between the 790 Duke & the 1290 SDR. Maybe one day :)
Yes I agree. The lightweight nature will be awesome just like the 990 SDR. I am letting go my 990 SDR for this for a more multi purpose capability.
@@muhammadhafidz3238 For me, I'd really like a 1290 SDR, I currently own a 690 Duke R. I love the shape and size of the 1290 SDR, it's great for a tall rider, and it's a great looking bike !, But, I really don't need 177hp, and I definitely dont need the price tag :), so really a 1090 SDR would be the answer, I bet it would sell by the bucket load, especially if they could sell it for around £10K. And it would be easy for KTM as I'm pretty sure the 1290 and 1090 engines are same physical size. Also, would be a bit like the way Ducati have the 1200 and 821, both same frame.
You'd have the 1190cc wouldn't you? not sure why they need to offer so many variants of the same bike. Ducati multistrada 1200s dvt is more lovely
The 1290 I assume you mean? ...not sure is the answer, this is a much more agile machine...
TheMissendenFlyer Non! 1190 adventure replaced the 990, the same bike as 1090 with much more power. Then came 1290...and 1090
very nice. like that, like that a lot.
Yeah me too!
Its very expensive here in Singapore.OTR here cost you at least about 42k Singapore dollars.
Yes getting expensive these new motorcycles aren't they - why are they so expensive in Singapore do you think? ...import duties??
It is a expensive here. Small country and government is controlling automobiles here to avoid overcrowding. Goverment is encouraging us to take public transport. What more can you expect when it'll only take you 1hour to get from one end tot the other .Only the rich could afford it here. For me I don't think its worthy for that price. Cheers bro...from Singapore.
42K Singapore... thats like $10.00 Aud yeah!
Love your videos mate, absolutely great reviews. Would love it, provided it is legal in the UK, if you could stand up riding on adventure bikes and include it in the review. Cheers from Sydney, Australia.
+OnTwoWheels That's a good point! I'll try and remember to do that in future, thanks for your kind words and for watching all the way down there - TMF
You should test ride a CRF Twin Africa for more comparison then.. Great vid there mate! grabbin' some amber liquid now. cheers!
+Mark Dela Cruz Its booked in, I shall be reviewing the Africa Twin very soon! ....stay tuned....
Looking forward to that sir. In the meantime, imma enjoy your other vidz while sipping me amber liquid here.
I saw you're review on the africa twin but you didn't really compare them.
Performance wise how do they compare? What about value too?
Africa twin is a lot heavier and less powerful.
Not sure why are you calling it a "baby" bike mate. 1.1 litre 125hp bike is a baby bike you should be riding a boss hoss :) If you want a swiss army bike this is the ultimate bike. 1290 are borderline wide for London, not to mention insurance, unless you have a garage you will not be insured in central (from theft). 1290 are a bigger financial loss in case your bike will actually get nicked. Tighter wheelbase greater range. If I overlooked any do it all bikes which are roughly the same power, size(same or smaller), please correct me.
I only tongue-in-cheek refer to it as the "baby" of the adventure range to make the point it's the smaller of the machines "mate"...
TheMissendenFlyer don't take offence mate, just the way you said it and then "entry level" made me consider saving up a bit and going for 1290, but that would be an incorrect choice in my case. Otherwise doing a good job, as far as I know you're the first english vloger to review this bike, keep it up.
No offense, but the latest problem with theft in the UK would have me looking into getting citizenship in another country. haha
Shouldn't the police detain the criminals who knick those bikes with a tracker?? I've heard from someone in a video that british police did not/ or do not(?) actually arrest the criminal after being provided with the location of the bike from a tracker?! This is what we've come to...?
The 1050 Triumph Sport gets my money purely for the gruntier engine. Thanks TMF. Flawless stuff as usual.
+Sleepingdragon 1 cheers, you are too kind!
do you happen to own a deership? haha i've seen anyone trying out so many bikes!
Hehe, no I don't...but I do love riding bikes as you've noticed :0) Thanks for watching - all the best - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer
Another vlog maybe! Worst an best traffic lights
No cruise control?
Not on this one, no.....
There's a difference between cruise control, and cruise lock. haha
Looks wise I would pick the Honda Africa twin
Fair enough....I'll be riding that soon so it will be interesting to compare....
I wish I'd bought the Africa Twin, but instead I bought the KTM 1050 Adventure and regretting it. reliability has been a problem.
Tried it a few weeks ago in Spain. Very nice motor, but I found the heat arriving at my upper left leg very annoying. Wind protection with my length (1m90) insufficient.
Fair enough.....try one in the UK, you'd welcome any heat! :0)
Want.
Nobody likes drama at the back end, just ask my missus...wasn't quite sure how to take that at first!
+Ronan Rogers Hope you managed to come to terms with it :0)
This or the triumph tiger 1050 sport
This is technically the better bike by most measures - but I’d have the Tiger 1050 personally....
@@TheMissendenFlyer got a 2010 tiger 1050 and just sold my 2018 tiger sport so looking at this for a second bike thanks
@@TheMissendenFlyer Hi, would you mind elaborating on this please? I'm currently down to choosing between these two bikes, so I would be really interested to hear more. Thanks.
I think the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers pushed the new Euro-standard for these massive near silent cans. The aftermarket exhaust makers must laugh their way to the bank with all these huge cans that come standard. Who would actually keep that on the bike?
+Scott Peterson yeah exactly...
Scott Peterson Yep. First thing I did to my 1290SA was take the can off - it's enormous, ugly, and heavy (not a good combination).
The Flyer makes a good point about seats too...my 1290SA seat was okay, bearable, but I wanted the sculpted single sear rather than the dual seats that are stock (and the single seat really improved comfort and rideability).
Add a decent can and seat, and you've increased the bike's price by ~10%.
Scott Peterson its the only way they can pass euro4
Well, this version is all about ktm 1090 and 1050
I would love to own one if only i was a bit taller..
I'm only 5'8" and had no issues with its height - the bike doesn't feel heavy or wide either which helps...
Too bad i'm only 5'2' lol, the only ktm bike that seems perfect to me is a duke 390 with a lowering kit, but i don't like the sound of a 1 cylinder engine. :(
Open the throttle with authority and let 'er rip hard a couple times. We need to know what the thing is capable of. :P
The KTM demo guys here in the USA where I live give the usual shpeel about responsibility, road manners, any citations, and what KTM corporate has zero tolerance about......and then proceed to lead the group on a wild high speed goose chase down the backroads. It's brilliant. I've used all of the performance of the 1290 models and seen how they can rip around the curves. Glad KTM corporate isn't stuffy about allowing people to feel out the bikes.