John John Florence vs. Jeremy Flores - FINAL - Billabong Pipe Masters 2017
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- čas přidán 17. 12. 2017
- John John Florence and Jeremy Flores battle in the final heat at the Billabong Pipe Masters 2017. #WSL
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Always fun to se the opinions of everyone! I can hardly think that Jeremy Flores, the guy who has been suspended for yelling at the judges, the guy who might be the most underscored on the CT, would be overscored in a final against the favorite surfer of our time, the gentle and humble genius JJF... pointless debate anyway, it was the best final i have seen in a looooooong time. Flores has been sooooo patient from 17’, he kept priority to wait for the wave that could maybe beat JJF! Great strategy
It's time to change WSL, listen to the world! Just have a look at all the comments... no way that was an 8.33.
When you look at John John's other barrels that didn't even make his top 2 wave scores they were equivalent if not better than flores buzzer beater. Shame. The judges should be required to provide the analysis on why they scored that wave SO much higher. It's sad to see, John John owned that heat the entire time, no question, he was robbed. Terrible judging from the WSL with no rhyme or reason explaining the unjustified flores buzzer beater score... tune me out, thank you.
Yeah what a hose job ,florence got the barrels then blew the lip off the wave for good measure.that was a disgrace
Aight but Jeremy's last wave was bigger cleaner and deaper stop hating bro
@@victoramstutz8664 no it wasnt
Completely agree, I just watched this final. I guess due to it being a last second wave gave it more significance, but that barrel was just as the same as all the ones John John had that weren't scored. Shouldn't have been like that
John John so clearly won that.
@wsl release all comp footage
Lol @WSL favoriting this comment
No
LOLLLLLL ARE THESE JUDGES SERIOUS?!?!?! That was the most BS call I've ever seen. JJ out surfed him 100%
Nah bro that last barrel was way better
Flores should've done more on the end of that wave for that score. JJ robbed
Yea why so much claiming these days? There is still some nice face on that wave to gain a few more valuable points in a competition where heats are being won by decimals... Not to mention it just looks so much better when JJF flies out of the barrel and lays into that lip! So lame to see Jeremy get the score on that one.
J John Veagence for Ewing
Lol. 8.3 what a joke.
John had a handful of waves better than his last wave.
Nice Job Flores!
No ducking way that was a 8.33 .
Sick comeback and barrel from Jeremy Flores! The 5 judges are not colluding to give certain surfers wins. Subjectively judged sports will always be controversial, which makes it fun to watch and talk about.
That was not an 8.33 wtf!!!!
Not even an 8 an 7.5 at most
Salty people...
yes salty people
Yes it fucking was
You guys need to take your bias glasses off. That was absolutely a 8.33 if not better. Flores was deeper in his last barrel then John John was in any of his. John John definitely had the best session and if you totaled all his waves up he would have destroyed Flores. But they only count the 2 best waves...
jeremys 1st wave was better than his 2nd, but the judges gave him a higher score for his 2nd one. the judging criteria needs to be reconsidered for the wsl.
potatoes63 I have a feeling that the WSL knows that the judging criteria is still prone to failure. The fact that the judges identity is a hidden secret says it all. If professional surfing is to flourish they need to fix this. Too many head scratchers and wtf's.
Politics,florence shouldve got 10s if that last one at the buzzer was an 8.3 or whatever.
One of the best heats in a while
An 8.33?
I think that last score for Flores was payback for the last second score they gave JJ in the semis. Starting to wonder if scores are all for ratings...
NO WAY is that an 8.33 smh
That's what I thought! Rip off!
He claimed it though!!!!!!!!1
Nathan Lutz
Which should take a full point off!
Imagino como deve ter doído para a WSL reconhecer a virada de Flores. Como demoraram para liberar a nota! Quando foi para dar a virada de JJF sobre Ian Gouveia a nota saiu a jato. Quando foi em situação contrária foi uma crise existencial de bastidores.
Jeremy pulled the tricks on the day
Still think it was jjs though
I would agree too
It was not better than JJ second wave. Jhon Jhon was robbed
jose luis cabrera I agree. Shorter barrel with no slash. That was a gift
I was there. Total BS score on that last wave by Flores. Watching live it looked small and crumbly
Buen surfing hermanos, desde Perú visualizando a los grandes del surfing
Ethan Ewing sent his regards.
Rafael Rodrigues dtudy currens stylle
Josh Kerr is also sending you and Gaby his regards....
Yeah John John got robbed. That wave was nowhere near as good as John Johns second wave.
I do think that john john surfed significantly better then jeremy overall but Jeremy was really lucky and the only 2 good waves he got where better while john john had like six really good waves but just slightly worse. I'm a john john fan btw
JJF was robbed.. shame. At least against Ethan he finished with a 360°
8.33? That is 7.85
U mean a 9.85
While some are discussing and comparing the two current phenomena of surf that are Gabriel and John F. I only appreciate how much the surf of these two is charming and at the same time siiick, I know that like any sport there is a dispute and this healthy rivalry that has what to have, just like it was with Kelly x Andy .. but just think we should not fight taking merit from one another, it is not up to us viewers to decide the note of each as each of us have different opinions .. CONGRATULATIONS JHON JHON, CONGRATULATIONS GABRIEL
Very good final!
I won my fantasy surf club for the year with that flip at the end!!!
hoping for this matchup again this year tbh
JJF should win the contest...
Que tubo no final 👏👏👏
Sometimes the order and drama of the waves in a heat dictate the scores
Jeremy is a beast
Did They really give him anything more than a 7.8 for that last wave...
I heard people talking about this earlier, and kinda wrote them off. But, now after watching it, I totally agree. That was a mid to high 7. Its crazy the judges did that when literally thousands of people on the beach were about to go apeshit when john won.
Seems like a home field disadvantage.
JJF surfed flawlessly. Great event and title win!
Congrats jjf on your second title and your 1st pipe masters stoked john could finally get a win at pipe
super sick
The judges seem to be influenced by the crowd reaction, which has nothing to do with scoring.
What a battle.
I’m glad for Jeremy, he needs the victory more than JJF
Parabéns JJ Florence opa , quis dizer JUÍZES
JJ shouldnt let jeremy go on that last wave
The only thing is that last wave had perfect shape which bumped the score up a point.
That was pretty cool.
That short barrel with a dumpy wash at the end was not worth 8.33! What a disgrace.
When you surf so well they have to give other competitors a handicap...
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh french in force dont rage
im french but jj got robbed and owned that heat
Correction - "The best surfer in wsl" not of the world
Any time there's a close buzzer beater situation like this they always score higher
This is insane
John John Florence is the winner of that pipe master !!!! No way he ruled the final
Nice 👏👏👏👏
8.33????? hmmmmm... I think I see something wrong here...
Go back in third round and JJF lost that heat but got the score because they wanted him to win the Title...my oponion
WSL OFFICIAL BREAKDOWN ON JEREMYS 8.3 BUZZER BEATER : BARREL 7PTS..., AGRESSIVE CLAIM (DEATH THREAT) : 1.33PTS....
JJF might have been robbed, but I think he could have put more effort into controlling the heat by making sure he had priority in the last 5min.
WSL want next year final to be Gabbi vs John John battling for title and first pipe win... thats why Flores 8.33 slightly overscored... follow the money... John john vs Gabbi is slater vs Irons $$$
So here is an idea to avoid last minute bias: the scoring judges should not be able to see nor hear the time clock
Really really we all know who won what is with these judges I just don't get it anymore it almost makes me not want to watch it John John School his ass and the judges just give it away again
Congrats Jeremy you did it again!
John-John got sniped by the French barrel surgeon , quit whining you sound like a bunch of Brazillian fans. Jeremy took thr score and had waited with his priority for 15 minutes for that gem. JJ looked like douche in post heat interview no gratitude towards Jeremy who won the World Tittle for him. He Failed to give Jeremy his props on stage during trophy ceremony. Congrats to Jeremy for taking down number one and two on your road to winning your second Pipe Masters. And keep trashing the halls of decedence!
Leo Risean From the beach it didn't look that good, and I was right in front of it. It was clear that John was disappointed. How would you take it, he pretty much wanted that as much as the title. John surfed a better heat.
RIP
Cala boca
How the fuck??? Ummm john John dominated that heat. This is like twilight zone
Jeremies last wave was the best wave of the heat, honestly Im a big john john fan, but Jeremy just got pitted so deep on that one, like i thought he had no chance of making it out, and the judges agreed
HisNameAintCatchy demonitized I disagree. JJ had at least two waves just as deep and longer, with a layback finish. Shady result.
Yea and Jeremy just stood there like a tool after his wave and JJ finished like a boss...
Damn
The judges took a big country shit on Florence
the last flores wave was so long and deep ...congrat jeremy you merit To win. and john John mérite the world title
Watched from the beach. No way Flores' last wave scored higher than 8.00. John got robbed. This is shameful. Black eye for the WSL. No confidence in judging these events. WSL needs to correct, bring fairness to judging. Otherwise, the sport will suffer. My 16 year old son watched with me and his view of the WSL is substantially lower that it was at the start of the final day. Totally shameful when our youth see judging isn't fair!
That’s so not fair... john john had the bag that Flores took the rabbit out of🥺
john john 😭 so close
2 and a half years later and I'm STILL shocked at that call. One of the worst robberies of all time, especially since it's JJF's home break and the way he was just owning that whole heat, imagine if the world title was decided on that heat, those judges might have had to leave the island under armed guard. Oh well, life goes on.
8.33 for the claim
Juice
John John é um animal 👏👏👏 que talento...
7:13 It looks like he’s having a blall right now
Deram esse 8.33 porque perceberam qe o Jhon Jhon nn merecia o titulo, entao deixaram ele pelo menos sem o titulo da etapa!
Paulo Ecletik Na final sim, Mas no Round 3, foi vergonhoso oque fizeram com o Ethan, era pra ele virar a bateria, deram uma nota vergonhosa pra ele, só pra n desfavorecer o Jhon Jhon.
Best barrel kaljdlas
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no fucking way was that an 8.33 no way. his other score was aslo a total gift. john john totally outsurfed him
Unfortunately like almost all sports out there it seems surfing has now been sold out as well. It was so clear that the last wave was nowhere near the perfect range. Oh well, from now we just enjoy the surfing and forget the scores...
Just no friggin’ way - someone got paid off. That’s nuts - but with judges.....
I watched this heat live and was glad for Jeremy but after watching it again I'm pretty shocked. I guess it's o.k. to rob someone of an event win when they've just won the world title..
judges fucked that up bad, no way
YEEEEEES JEREMY! i've seen him ripping since 2008 and now he made it! many congrats! so nice to see this. and also congrats to john john winning the world title again. could not be a better ending.
vive la france
8.33!?!?!? I haven’t even watched the vid yet and I can tell by all the comments it was shit. 😂☺️
Wtf is wrong with the judges
WSL robbed ethan Ewing and gave him the score and then jj Florence got robbed so payback
Pls rewatch the rnd 3 heat and see clearly it wasn't a steal. Jjf waves were much better.
Ian Gouveia was also robbed.
Everyone surfed great and had fun but I know the judges are human and they have one of the hardest jobs in the world so whenever they make a mistake everyone’s one them. I though Ewing should’ve won but that’s just me
Josh Kerr got robbed also
Corruption everywhere, I just unsubscribe from their channel, I'll just watch free surf from now on
SOOOO BACK DOOR D-DAY ! -IT HAPPENED -WHAT U GONNA DO! WILL SEE NEXT YEAR IF THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN JUDGING!?
But it was small
Jhon IS the best
The judges must have been high AF during this contest. Or be colorblind and mixed up the color of their jerseys. Or been paid off. Or Jeremy Flores must have offered the judges a couple of BJ's... you get the point, John John won that by a mile but got nothing less than robbed.
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Robbed!! John John!!
That was super clean but not a 8:33
This STILL annoys me. Literally have no idea whatsoever how they got this scoring so wrong. And I'm a huge Flores fan.
There is no fucking way that was an 8.33.
Who are these horrible judges??? WTF
That was some bs
Are u kidding
Oh yes this is so noice