Experts Can't Figure Out Why Bayesian Superyacht Sank

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • Divers have retrieved multiple bodies from the Bayesian superyacht - including that of tech tycoon and ‘Britain’s Bill Gates’ Mike Lynch. But the question remains: how did the boat sink? From freak weather events to the ‘dangerously tall’ mast of the yacht, experts offer varying and contradictory answers.
    As engineers and maritime scientists continue to analyse the accident - the i takes a look at the possibilities.
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  • @drbobfromopp
    @drbobfromopp Před 21 dnem +15

    Y'all, I am a sailor. I've been in boats "knocked down" by the wind, water coming over into the boat.
    Two points:
    1) This never occurs when the sails are down, as here. A wind that can knock a boat down by its bare mast alone? Helluva wind. And as the boat begins to roll, the mast rolls, too, and is less tall, and 'spills' the wind. Also never happens to a boat at anchor, since the wind will push the boat around so the nose faces the wind and there's no sideways pressure on her mast.
    2) This was a HUGE boat. 185 feet long!!! So a brief thunderstorm rolled her over and sank her, just like that?
    Don't buy that the wind blew her over.

    • @kate6858-n8p
      @kate6858-n8p Před 21 dnem +1

      'Don't buy that the wind blew her over.' - yep, I'd rather believe in unicorns

    • @beepbeep767
      @beepbeep767 Před 21 dnem

      @@drbobfromopp so what do you think made it sink

    • @jamesstuart3346
      @jamesstuart3346 Před 21 dnem

      Exactly. A properly anchored Albacore will ride out a hurricane

    • @5to1-w6d
      @5to1-w6d Před 21 dnem

      Bayesian has a 75 m high mast. The mast is approximately .20 m wide. The sails were down as the boat was at anchor. Assuming a gust of wind at 160 kph. The ship weighs 543 tonnes. How much force exerted on the mast would be required to create a 60 degree angle of keel?

    • @jamesstuart3346
      @jamesstuart3346 Před 21 dnem +2

      @@5to1-w6d A 160 km/h wind that only damages one boat in an anchorage. Tell me how that happens

  • @dodystiller3718
    @dodystiller3718 Před 21 dnem +6

    As long as there isn't very strong currents (which there aren't in this location), a ship at anchor points into the wind. If the anchor drags (loses it's hold on the seabed) a ship turns square to the wind. Hit her square on with a hurricane-force gust of wind and she will heel over. The higher the mast (= the higher the force of the wind up there), the more she will heel. This ship had with 73 m the highest mast in the world. Watching the CCTV footage over and over again it seems that the ship moved angles and position.
    Heeling over in itself doesn't cause a ship with a keel to sink, because the weight of the keel should be calculated high enough to counteract and stabilize her back into an upright position. In theory the righting moment would have been tested on her before she got delivered to her owner.
    Everything right now can only be guesswork until the vessel is retrieved or has been inspected thoroughly. In an accident at sea there are usually many factors that lead to disaster, not only one or two.
    Imagine for example they had planned to refuel the next day: the fuel tanks would not be full. Instead of maybe 5 tons or more of fuel (usually in the lowest part of the ship) there were only 500 KG.
    Something could have shifted with the heeling distributing the weight unevenly hindering her from popping straight back up. Being kept on her side for a bit makes water come in of course. Which still wouldn't make her sink in an instant, it needs a huge hole to make that happen. A few hatches/bulleyes aren't good enough to sink a 50 m vessel in less than 2 minutes.
    They had divers down there and this vehicle to inspect the hull from the outside. The information given to the public was that there is no visible damage on the hull. Apparently the mast is broken (remark: it isn't broken they stated).
    But ... how did this huge amount of water get into the ship to sink her in less than 2 minutes? Did the keel disappear leaving a gaping hole?
    She's laying on her side, could there be a huge hole on the side she is laying on?
    We don't know, do we?
    As it's an accident at sea there has to be an investigation (which usually takes a year or more) and the result will be published to the maritime world.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny +2

      Thanks!

    • @dodystiller3718
      @dodystiller3718 Před 18 dny +1

      Since writing this post I found some more detailed information about the ship: she was built to come back up from a heeling angle of 73° with the keel up and 88° with the keel down.
      In comparison: production sailing yachts in "normal" sizes are built to come back up from a heeling angle of 110-120° minimum, depending on the manufacturer. Sailing yachts built for heavy weather come up from an angle of 165° (even up to 180°). The reason behind it is mainly to allow these boats to come back on an even keel in case they get rolled by a wave.
      Concerning the fuel capacity it turned out she can carry 57.000 Liters of fuel. While fuel doesn't have exactly the same weight per Liter as water it would still represent something close to 57 tons.

  • @windchange2175
    @windchange2175 Před 22 dny +19

    The answer can be given by divers.
    This superyacht had a retractable keel for shallow depths and to enter harbours.
    The accident was caused by the beam, but if the keel had been raised at the time, the yacht would have been much less stable.
    The boat was close to the coast and the sea was calm, so the keel could have been raised.
    It is clear that it was an accident, but the key question is whether the keel was up or down.
    Next to this yacht there was another old Dutch yacht with a normal keel and nothing happened to this yacht.
    With the keel up and the storm it is most likely the cause of the accident.
    The answer lies with the divers.

    • @peetsnort
      @peetsnort Před 21 dnem +1

      I didnt know the keel could be raised but I guessed the keel detached

    • @Cheva-Pate
      @Cheva-Pate Před 21 dnem

      In combination with that big mast and rig, like a big sail, i was on a much smaller boat with 2 masts an we got a suddenly strong wind and the boat was very difficult to maneuver, the boat was rocking side too side until we go 180° back to were we came from.

    • @martynhoward4287
      @martynhoward4287 Před 21 dnem

      Absolutely bang on, keel down no problem

    • @will7its
      @will7its Před 21 dnem

      They know, they just aren't telling us plebs....

    • @paulg3012
      @paulg3012 Před 21 dnem

      They were in 50 meters of water, no need to raise the keel. Some said it is not lowered unless under sail so maybe that is why it was retracted.

  • @leegould5306
    @leegould5306 Před 21 dnem +8

    It is strange that Stephen Chamberlain, the Billionaires co-defendent in the court case with HP, was killed by a car in the U.K with in hours of the Yacht incident.. The odds must be Billions to 1!

    • @l-jx7349
      @l-jx7349 Před 21 dnem +1

      @leegould5306 My thoughts exactly!!! What are the chances of this happening to two people who were both acquitted from an ongoing fraud case. Then both die within a few days of each other... something is definitely very iffie with all this 🤔

    • @frankblangeard8865
      @frankblangeard8865 Před 21 dnem

      Chamberlain was killed several days before the yacht sank. That lowers the odds to millions to one not billions to one. But...lynch was celebrating at the time of the sinking. Could Chamberlain's ghost have taken offense?

    • @thelucieflower317
      @thelucieflower317 Před 20 dny

      11.1 Billion in fact. Apparently Black Rock/Vanguard own Hewlett Packard, the company the fraud charges surround. I guess you need to be careful who you mess with.

  • @volkerkonig9376
    @volkerkonig9376 Před 22 dny +16

    " Black Swan event" Rubbish, what an expert. Since several days you found extreme weather- phenomena in the western meditteranian- for instance at the Baleares some days before. The lokals in Sicily report also bad weather the days before. At 2.45 heavy thunderstorms reached Palermo. At 3.00 the german skipper of the nearby anchoring SIR ROBERT B, who saved the 15 survivors, realized the upcoming bad weather and prepared his vessel for the storm. But the skipper of BAYESIAN said, that they didn't see it coming. So the yacht was'nt prepared for the storm.

    • @jazzboo326
      @jazzboo326 Před 21 dnem +5

      Well said. We are in Greece with a sailing boat in the water and have been following the weather daily since the weather in Formentor. We have been in 2 Medicane and are well aware of these weather phenomenon. We have constant thunderstorm and lightening hits warning on our iPhones. There is no way that Captain was not aware of weather warnings in that area. Sorry, as harsh as it sounds in these tragic circumstances, it has to be said.

    • @andyblyth4519
      @andyblyth4519 Před 21 dnem +1

      This so called expert report is just junk. The boat is fully air conditioned, no guest or crew would have hatches or portholes open. What nonsense.

    • @windchange2175
      @windchange2175 Před 21 dnem +2

      The captain made several mistakes that ended the lives of his skippers and their guests.

    • @sawdoctony
      @sawdoctony Před 21 dnem

      ​@@windchange2175 what mistakes - you need to back up a statement like that with specifics

    • @windchange2175
      @windchange2175 Před 21 dnem +1

      The captain made many mistakes.
      It seems that the keel was raised, which makes the boat less stable.
      It seems that the starboard door was open, which could have caused water to enter the boat.
      I don't understand how the captain didn't get the occupants out of the boat, preferring to save himself.
      I still find it mind-boggling that such a sailing boat would have sunk.
      It seems as if it had been prepared.

  • @williamquigley852
    @williamquigley852 Před 21 dnem +12

    What in the world is this guy saying? A black swan event is an occurrence so rare that no one could have anticipated it but with dire consequences if it does. He describes the storm that sank the Bayesian yacht as a black swan event. Really? A sudden change in sea conditions that can put a boat in jeopardy is an event no sea captain could anticipate? Sea spouts can sink or badly damage a small to mid sized ocean vessel. But a few minutes later in the video he actually says Sicily is well known for sea spouts. Come on. He contradicts himself. If Sicily is well known for sea spouts, and sea spouts can put a boat at risk of sinking, then sea spouts in Sicily are not black swan events.

    • @briansmyla8696
      @briansmyla8696 Před 18 dny

      A particular sea spout striking a particular vessel in just the wrong way at just the right time would indeed be a black swan event. 50 meters in any direction could have made a huge difference.

  • @user-ss1pn5hd4g
    @user-ss1pn5hd4g Před 21 dnem +6

    There is no mystery. The lateral external force (wind force and wave drift force) overturned the vessel Hull beyond its angle of vanishing stability pushing its righting arm from positive to negative. At this point the Hull will have violently rotated i.e. pulling the Hull from uproght to upside down position. Watertight openings may have been left opening, hence the foundering. The huge mast may have never been subjected to modelled wind forces for tornado strength winds. Certainly for hurricane force winds possibly to a 100 year return period, but not Tormado/Water Spout force.

    • @kate6858-n8p
      @kate6858-n8p Před 21 dnem +1

      So, you think the keel has been retracted then? Otherwise how else anything could overturned the vessel. This yacht must have been designed to withstand ocean storms, let alone sea ones.

  • @wayneyd2
    @wayneyd2 Před 21 dnem +5

    I'm not expert, but I think taking on lots of water may have something to do with it.

    • @perpetualgrin5804
      @perpetualgrin5804 Před 21 dnem +1

      You are the only non expert on you -tube. Welcome.

    • @juliettedonohue7069
      @juliettedonohue7069 Před 20 dny

      well the boat is not in plastic but aluminum, but is has a heavy motor inside in addition to lots of luxury stuff. if its start to topple and no precautions have been taken to close the ship, water can come in very fast.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny

      Mike Lynch and the passengers were vanquished through a lack of communications and emergency alarms that should have emanated from Captain Cutfield and his operating crew!

  • @petere4540
    @petere4540 Před 21 dnem +5

    But they left the windows hatches open. Why did they leave them open when storms come? Second thing, why were emergency alarms not sound

    • @frankblangeard8865
      @frankblangeard8865 Před 21 dnem

      The temperature was probably quite warm in August.

    • @laurentcorveleyn8765
      @laurentcorveleyn8765 Před 20 dny

      And obviously you’ve never been on a yacht anchored at night in the med.

    • @juliettedonohue7069
      @juliettedonohue7069 Před 20 dny

      @@frankblangeard8865 those yachts have air conditioning. so closing the hatches was not an issue

  • @pigdroppings
    @pigdroppings Před 21 dnem +3

    The boat sank because the crew wasn't keeping a "Weather Eye Out"...
    .....and didn't order all the water tight openings closed.
    "Close All the Hatches"....the forgotten quote
    But, this Water Spout incident happened at night with visibility limited
    (My supreme expertise comes from watching old movies}

    • @tarverr.mcknightjr4439
      @tarverr.mcknightjr4439 Před 21 dnem +2

      They must have had some watch?? They all got off SAFE & alive!!

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny

      The ship had three capable watertight areas which would have secured her floatability throughout?

  • @Acconda
    @Acconda Před 21 dnem +4

    The keel is mainly for when the sail is operational. If the keel is left down during the night apparently it can cause a knocking noise throughout the boat causing a disturbance, most leave it retracted. The boat is designed to still remain afloat even if upto compartments are flooded. The “experts” at this point think that some doors may have been left open. It will need the divers to do a scan on the over side of the yacht.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny

      I think the experts mentioned up to two compartments must be watertight to allow for floatability?

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny

      This vital fact was lost on Captain Cutfield and his operating crew?

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Před 21 dnem +1

    The vessel took on a huge amount of water in a very short period of time. Something opened up the hull

  • @studebaker4217
    @studebaker4217 Před 21 dnem +1

    There's a physical phenomenon in vehicles called "roll resonance", where a secondary lateral force reinforces and multiplies the original lateral force. It's possible this worked on the vessel through both wind and sea.

  • @user-cz9mx2ct8q
    @user-cz9mx2ct8q Před 21 dnem +2

    Hey,
    Why everyone put the finger in someone else’s eye and no one makes numbers?
    What a wind force is needed to put this ship into a flooding heeling angle? Without sails, keel down or up. Is that theoretically possible? Not so hard to roughly calculate.

    • @kate6858-n8p
      @kate6858-n8p Před 21 dnem +2

      chat gpt says - 'While it's difficult to give an exact wind speed, hurricane-force winds (above 64 knots or 74 mph) in combination with large waves could potentially capsize or turn down a 185-foot yacht if it is broadside to the wind and waves, and if it does not have adequate stability measures in place.' 74 mph. Does anyone have weather report from that day?

  • @scottygdaman
    @scottygdaman Před 21 dnem +3

    the titan implosion was.... a predictable event .. looking back even an expected event

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny

      Agreed. The risk on the Titan was enormous! The risk on the Bayesian was manageable if you had initiative!

  • @constantius4654
    @constantius4654 Před 21 dnem +2

    Hubristic super high mast catching high up winds causing severe listing of boat, plus open hatches on the deck = avoidable tragedy.

  • @volkerkonig9376
    @volkerkonig9376 Před 22 dny +2

    " Black Swan event" What an expert. Since several days you had extreme weather, phenomena

    • @captainmike3557
      @captainmike3557 Před 21 dnem

      Its not an expert...
      Its a talking joke

    • @brandonmcheyenehoward1077
      @brandonmcheyenehoward1077 Před 21 dnem

      Just a name known by mariners. To the rest of us they are mini tornadoes. The black swan being of such intensity that it swallows a large vessel whole. The pirates used to call it by another name, like giant squid or some sea monster 😮

    • @alanbradley9621
      @alanbradley9621 Před 21 dnem +1

      An expert talking crap. Black swan !!!!!! Mythological creatures caused it.

  • @richardschreier3415
    @richardschreier3415 Před 22 dny +6

    Simple..the keel was up…tallest mast….bad weather….do the physics……if the keel was down all would be OK…..

    • @beepbeep767
      @beepbeep767 Před 22 dny

      hey can you explain what it means when you say "the keel was up"?

    • @Ken-xm1rf
      @Ken-xm1rf Před 21 dnem +3

      @@beepbeep767 The keel on these yachts can be raised and lowered. If the keel was in the up position, then a very high wind can apply enough force to that super tall mast to tip the vessel over.

    • @brandonmcheyenehoward1077
      @brandonmcheyenehoward1077 Před 21 dnem +2

      You would imagine the crew were experienced as it’s not the first time they have had to anchor off port in bad weather on their journeys. They would only forget once. That tall mast is an excuse for doing a 180 😮 I sure hope it was down or the Captain could be facing manslaughter charges

    • @lonelylantern9135
      @lonelylantern9135 Před 21 dnem +3

      ​@brandonmcheyenehoward1077 apparently they didnt like having it down at night because it was too loud to sleep. 30million yacht and yet the mechanism would be noisy

    • @bigdraco2994
      @bigdraco2994 Před 21 dnem

      It’s like playing football on a quiet residential street. You wouldn’t be expecting a drunk driver to plough over you at 100 mph
      Out of nowhere. It’s a bit like that but

  • @beepbeep767
    @beepbeep767 Před 22 dny +1

    how is it possible that this yacht was allegedly designed to withstand mid-ocean hurricanes and has received lots of praise for its superiority? and also, how is it physically possible for such a tall mast to be built and expect the yacht to survive? can anyone explain these things

    • @punkw7852
      @punkw7852 Před 21 dnem

      🤫🤐🤫Tycoon’s co-defendant was on bike & was ‘accidentally’ run over 🚴 💥🚖 = ☠️by a car within a day of the sinking.
      $8 Billion buys-
      • 1 tycoon & daughter
      • 2 lawyers (husband & wife) that defended tycoon.
      • 1 chef (probably the cleaning up loose ends if he was in charge of making those 4 pass out from something added to their food/drink so they could sink it & they’d go down with the unsinkable yacht.🛥️
      Chef probably didn’t know the next stage after they passed out was the ship sinking part.
      The missing woman… I’m guessing she already had a new life set up once the yacht went down successfully.
      Other than that… 15 people were able to escape with a story.
      Nothing fishy about that. 😂
      My advice- don’t look too close at who might’ve done this. They aren’t happy when the legal system screws them over. I wouldn’t touch a case investigating, arresting or trying anyone!!
      I wouldn’t even make 1 call or ask a single person a question.
      😳😬👀

    • @Charlie3vans
      @Charlie3vans Před 21 dnem

      Weight distribution...ballast.

  • @punkw7852
    @punkw7852 Před 21 dnem +2

    Tycoon’s co-defendant was on bike & was ‘accidentally’ run over 🚴 💥🚖 = ☠️by a car within a day of the sinking.
    $8 Billion buys-
    • 1 tycoon & daughter
    • 2 lawyers (husband & wife) that defended tycoon.
    • 1 chef (probably the cleaning up loose ends if he was in charge of making those 4 pass out from something added to their food/drink so they could sink it & they’d go down with the unsinkable yacht.🛥️
    Chef probably didn’t know the next stage after they passed out was the ship sinking part.
    The missing woman… I’m guessing she already had a new life set up once the yacht went down successfully.
    Other than that… 15 people were able to escape with a story.
    Nothing fishy about that. 😂
    My advice- don’t look too close at who might’ve done this. They aren’t happy when the legal system screws them over. I wouldn’t touch a case investigating, arresting or trying anyone!!
    I wouldn’t even make 1 call or ask a single person a question.
    😳😬👀

  • @michaelchartres
    @michaelchartres Před 21 dnem +2

    My question is "Was the lifting keel Up or Down". My guess is is was UP thereby making the vessel far less stable.

    • @KingsleyGallagher
      @KingsleyGallagher Před 21 dnem

      If the keel was up,the captain is toast

    • @kyle6838
      @kyle6838 Před 21 dnem +1

      U talking about that thing up under it half way down they said if it would have been all the way down it would make jerks and movements that would’ve felt and sounded to sleeping ppl

    • @fellspoint9364
      @fellspoint9364 Před 21 dnem +1

      @michaelchartres- Excellent point and my question as well. Was the keel extended or retracted ? I’d like to know who was awake and on anchor watch. Radar and radios have to be monitored while others sleep . I work at sea and someone is always up and alert.

    • @michaelchartres
      @michaelchartres Před 21 dnem

      You are so right. I used to have a motorsailer and cruised many thousands of miles around Britain and the Baltic. I was also a Cadet in the Merchant Navy and one thing drummed into all cadets was "You MUST always have a lookout, underway or at anchor."

    • @michaelchartres
      @michaelchartres Před 21 dnem

      Not true. It would have steadied the vessels

  • @DiscusDL
    @DiscusDL Před 9 dny

    If experts cant figure this out they are not experts......
    As an Engineer on yachts in the past, when the vessel was knocked down the aft deck flooded with water the size of a back yard swimming pool and those aft deck sliding doors would not have had the manual locking dogs in place, in the slightest roll those beauty over function sliding doors would have rolled open letting the water in. Same doors on many yachts I have been on in the past, in the smallest seas they would roll on tracks, I know the manufacture (withheld) and they are 100 percent beauty over function. The opening mechanism drives a toothed belt that only has the power to operate the doors in a level condition and has no power to hold them in the open or closed position if the vessel experiences even the slightest roll....... I have replaced belts, adjusted hangers, roller bearings, repaired tracks and have had major repairs at the yard to repair damage from the banging they sometimes experience even on a motor-yacht with zero-speed stabilizers.... Should these have been dogged, underway yes, with owners and guests on board "Good luck with that"
    All yacht owners/guests need to start participating in safety drills with the crew, most do not even know what or were a Muster Station is. I have never had owners or guests participate in drills, this needs to change.
    Water ingress through engine room ventilation intake or exhaust ducting, make up air intakes, galley supply air intakes and exhaust, aft deck sliding door, possible laz deck hatch or side door due a yacht healed over due to heavy winds more so by a keel that was possibly retracted lessening the righting moment...put on top of all this, crew possibly not meeting hours rest, guests not understanding the yacht layout and bad weather coming at you in the dark, 1 in 100000 Very Sad.... The yacht manufacture talking down the crew, only running for cover and pushing the blame from them.

  • @Adventures-and-More
    @Adventures-and-More Před 21 dnem +7

    I think it sank because it didn’t stay afloat

  • @juliettedonohue7069
    @juliettedonohue7069 Před 20 dny

    from my experience in the Mediterranean, being at anchor under gusts is tricky : if the anchor does not hold, and starts gliding, the sailboat's position is no longer face to the wind, but perpendicular, and its obvious result is that the risk of capsizing is increased tremendously due to strong wind against the hull and mast. Normally sailboats are insubmersible unless broken or with a hole, provided all openings are closed, but it was not the case according to the divers (not closed - when I used to sail, I always had this in mind); moreover, the keel and lest was partially retracted, the keel helps the boat's satiability under strong winds. every one seemed to have been so unprepared to the bad weather which had been forecasted... tragic.

    • @catirro
      @catirro Před 18 dny

      In such cases, in order to counteract the strong effect of the wind and not drift, the engines are started and the bow is turned against the wind. They endured a storm/small tornado for exactly 16 minutes. Most likely, the ship (boats longer than 24 meters are called ships) turned around itself approximately 180° and the ship's propeller got tangled in the anchor chain. Therefore, structural damage occurred in the aft area where the garage and engine room are located, causing a large leak, the ship started taking in water at this point. Perhaps the bulb keel also broke and a 56-meter ship sank in 60 seconds. Nothing happened to the Dutch flagged ship that was about 200 meters next to it. Strong ships of this type can only be sunk by submarine torpedoes.

  • @London780
    @London780 Před 21 dnem +12

    So called experts my arse

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq Před 21 dnem

      look at that super mask!!! With all the people it's weight was not distributed evenly.

  • @diorocks5858
    @diorocks5858 Před 21 dnem +1

    No watertight bulk heads. Designers 1 engineers Zero

  • @mariadelavega546
    @mariadelavega546 Před 21 dnem +2

    The captain did not I form if severe weather warnings to avoid area and go. Elsewhere in med to owner. The other boats, anchored there were up on deck ready to face the storm, the sea, was not calm at all. The rescue had turned on engines at 3 am to keep hull facing the wind and was, steering the boat into the wind. When severe weather warnings no captain ever leaves, sails, on boom or furled sails for that creates load to capsiz3. It's very odd the owner being laser focus did not go on deck hearing such rattling and vibrations from winds at 3 and 4 am. Perhaps, he was drugged as, other vips with air con hatches shut no way could escape. Captain warned only crew. He did not warn owner when wind picked up at the. Am. All other owners of other boats, were on deck taking care in case worst happened. What saved guest with baby was, baby crying all night. That baby was, scared from wind noise. Strange owner and lawyer and banker did not hear high winds, at 3 am 2 hrs before wind burst
    There was no spout seeing it was microburst changing directions intense winds.

  • @bartsolari5035
    @bartsolari5035 Před 20 dny

    lightning strikes twice...Lynch & Chamberlain

  • @janhamstra2135
    @janhamstra2135 Před 21 dnem +2

    Why in dont here anything off that waterspout could dump tons off water on the top deck wich is as i see from pictures, it is a steering pit or a bathtub with the steeringwheel. Tons off water high on deck that can only go one way and thats down into the ship or stay on top in the steering pit. This can make a stable ship verry unstable in seconds especialy with this lifting swing keel retracted. This is worth looking into ot seems.

    • @kyle6838
      @kyle6838 Před 21 dnem

      That’s what I was thinking like it would be real top heavy

    • @kpapaioa
      @kpapaioa Před 21 dnem

      The cental section of the lower deck is recessed and it's drainage is also an issue. A significant quantity of the upper deck drainage probably gets to the lower deck..

    • @janhamstra2135
      @janhamstra2135 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@kpapaioa The water on the top deck only has to be there for a few seconds to top the whole ship over.

  • @tarverr.mcknightjr4439
    @tarverr.mcknightjr4439 Před 21 dnem +1

    My question is : How did ALL THE CREW GET OFF?!?!

    • @irefi64
      @irefi64 Před 21 dnem +3

      They might have been up on deck having started their working day, so were thrown or jumped off rather than being trapped in the sleeping quarters below. One unfortunately did die, the chef.

    • @kate6858-n8p
      @kate6858-n8p Před 21 dnem

      same here

    • @kate6858-n8p
      @kate6858-n8p Před 21 dnem +2

      @@irefi64 all on deck, in this weather? For what? To get some fresh air?

    • @irefi64
      @irefi64 Před 20 dny

      @@kate6858-n8p The water spout came on suddenly and unexpectedly, so they said.

  • @Anne6621
    @Anne6621 Před 21 dnem +1

    has the wind speed that hit this yacht been recorded , that is key

  • @keepgrindingup7661
    @keepgrindingup7661 Před 19 dny

    People this was no boating accident

  • @terryken12
    @terryken12 Před 21 dnem

    The mast looked like it was so tall it could easily knock the boat over but as I have never owned a sail boat and the boat I do have only cost me $6000 so I wouldn't actually know. I do wonder if it will be raised or just stay on the sea floor forever.

  • @Alessandro-hc1kv
    @Alessandro-hc1kv Před 22 dny +1

    Almost 100% of the crew survived. Just ask’em what happened, ask The captain, is not difficult, and The “ mistery” is solved.

  • @uli98382
    @uli98382 Před 21 dnem

    Someone tampered with the yacht😮!!!!!

  • @derekboudreau3756
    @derekboudreau3756 Před 20 dny

    The highest concentration of Tornadoes anywhere in the world is the USA Midwest. This was off the map and narrative of this video.

  • @paulvr3158
    @paulvr3158 Před 20 dny

    I've had a think
    I know what happened, and you are hearing it hear first!!!
    They dropped the keel for stability in a panic.....and it just kept going to the bottom.... the yacht capsized immediately.
    I bet they find the keel separate from the hull!!

  • @peetsnort
    @peetsnort Před 21 dnem

    I saw the thiing topple.
    My best guess is the keel detached.
    Just in the the foreground you see a 30 foot catamaran being thrown right out of the water.
    So 70 meter mast on a 55 m boat despite not being under sail the lateral pressure was like a freight train

    • @lonelylantern9135
      @lonelylantern9135 Před 21 dnem +1

      That's a different video people play to give an idea. That wasn't the Bayesian

  • @garyjohnstone6422
    @garyjohnstone6422 Před 20 dny

    Perini and Navi do indeed build unsinkable yachts assuming they are operated as intended. They build the world`s finest ocean going yachts.The vessel is not at fault, the skipper caused it all on his own. The 240 foot mast did not break but it did provide extreme leverage because the counter balancing retractable keel was left up! Inexcusable. The yacht was on her side and hatches and cabin portholes were left open rather than rely on air con? Even the aft door was left open in a region known for sudden , fierce tempests at this time of year.
    The standard procedure in this situation is to simply abandon the anchor and motor away.The watch crew did not monitor the radar which is an important duty.The skipper made sure survived by leaving all aboard to their fate! He must remain aboard until last but took the coward`s way out. This is a clear dereliction of his duty for which he will pay dearly. He will definitely be charged and lose his ticket, his sailing days are over. Jail is likely for manslaughter or failure to act in a responsible manner.
    It is a shocking example of the worst seamanship ever displayed and proves he ought never have been a skipper at all. Anyone can sail in easy seas, it takes an extreme event like this to test whether a skipper is worth his title or not.

    • @catirro
      @catirro Před 18 dny

      In such cases, in order to counteract the strong effect of the wind and not drift, the engines are started and the bow is turned against the wind. They endured a storm/small tornado for exactly 16 minutes. Most likely, the ship (boats longer than 24 meters are called ships) turned around itself approximately 180° and the ship's propeller got tangled in the anchor chain. Therefore, structural damage occurred in the aft area where the garage and engine room are located, causing a large leak, the ship started taking in water at this point. Perhaps the bulb keel also broke and a 56-meter ship sank in 60 seconds. Nothing happened to the Dutch flagged ship that was about 200 meters next to it. Strong ships of this type can only be sunk by submarine torpedoes.

  • @paulg3012
    @paulg3012 Před 21 dnem

    Weather looks more like a sudden squall, not seeing any waterspout on video as yet.

  • @vincentfernandez7328
    @vincentfernandez7328 Před 20 dny

    Design flaw? Maybe the mast was too tall.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 Před 18 dny

      No! You needed an expert Captain and operating crew and not just agency staff who are not bonded with the owner!

  • @saxtant
    @saxtant Před 21 dnem

    The Bayesian irony

  • @sergiokroff4321
    @sergiokroff4321 Před 21 dnem

    For me as NA rather than considering the irresponsability for not to look for harbour waters while the storm approach presumably knowing by the weather forestcast (Note: historically Roman galleys or mechant ships offten capsized on the same way on this area) and the combination of the vessel heading (presumably transversal to the incoming waves or paralel to the shoreline, anchored not sailing) with the main enviromental actions on the hull expose to the waves (load condition) and the fluctuating gusting wind forces on the mast area, lead to the yacht to oscillate (Roll) with amplitudes reaching the Roll resonance physic phenomena (ship Roll amplitudes in which any external excitation force can induce an unrestrained oscillation motion) that over come the yacht transversal stability capability inducing with a counter moment capsized the vessel and flooded after through the open hatch , very sad event , then the most probably new regulation for this type of vessel its seem for me that it will be the requirement for encrease the number of water tight compartiments (e.g.double hull) to allow a buoyancy capability on this kind of events although as the designer said while the yacht sail its unsinkable but anchored with open hatches heading transversal to the waves and wind is a very different history. Rgds

  • @michaelm.3210
    @michaelm.3210 Před 20 dny

    It filled with water.

  • @Tom-t8f
    @Tom-t8f Před 21 dnem +3

    The entire crew was on deck !!! They all got into a life raft ! They left the cabin doors open . Negligence !

    • @Renegade040
      @Renegade040 Před 21 dnem +3

      And you know this, stop writing crap like this.

    • @peetsnort
      @peetsnort Před 21 dnem

      Same crew as the nordstream lot

    • @punkw7852
      @punkw7852 Před 21 dnem +1

      🤐🤫😬Tycoon’s co-defendant was on bike & was ‘accidentally’ run over 🚴 💥🚖 = ☠️by a car within a day of the sinking.
      $8 Billion buys-
      • 1 tycoon & daughter
      • 2 lawyers (husband & wife) that defended tycoon.
      • 1 chef (probably the cleaning up loose ends if he was in charge of making those 4 pass out from something added to their food/drink so they could sink it & they’d go down with the unsinkable yacht.🛥️
      Chef probably didn’t know the next stage after they passed out was the ship sinking part.
      The missing woman… I’m guessing she already had a new life set up once the yacht went down successfully.
      Other than that… 15 people were able to escape with a story.
      Nothing fishy about that. 😂
      My advice- don’t look too close at who might’ve done this. They aren’t happy when the legal system screws them over. I wouldn’t touch a case investigating, arresting or trying anyone!!
      I wouldn’t even make 1 call or ask a single person a question.
      😳😬👀

    • @Renegade040
      @Renegade040 Před 20 dny

      @@punkw7852 Keep your stupid conspiracy theories to yourself.

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 Před 18 dny

    Keel wasn't down simple

  • @sararichardson737
    @sararichardson737 Před 21 dnem

    What are the benefits of having the tallest mast in the world?

    • @michaelm.3210
      @michaelm.3210 Před 20 dny

      There you go again--asking good questions!

  • @kiwi6444
    @kiwi6444 Před 21 dnem

    The keel was retracted, dont need to be an expert to figure out why she rolled over.

  • @dcubrakovic1
    @dcubrakovic1 Před 21 dnem

    Not mentioning very important fact about the keel? And saying that break of mast could contribute to capsize? No physics here in this video. If mast would break (and here they do not mention divers report that the boat is intact - no broken mast), that would ADD to the stability.

    • @peetsnort
      @peetsnort Před 21 dnem

      Yes.first thing I deduced.
      But in footage the mast looked intact till it hit the water.I also say a 30 ft catamaran lifted out the water in the foreground

  • @edwardStarr-y4z
    @edwardStarr-y4z Před 19 dny

    Yacht was overloaded. Specs. Call for up to ten persons.There were more. people allowed by the Captain.

  • @davidmay5338
    @davidmay5338 Před 21 dnem

    Hello it was hit by a water spout/tornado with the keel retracted, I flunked math & I understanding it.

  • @kate6858-n8p
    @kate6858-n8p Před 21 dnem

    Can anyone explain why down keel produced noises for the passengers? It can't be the fish, right?

  • @Known-unknowns
    @Known-unknowns Před 22 dny

    15 people survived. We’ll know exactly why. Another speculation video 🥱

  • @paulmartin6249
    @paulmartin6249 Před 21 dnem

    Very sus, like to look at the Hull when it's raised

  • @sergeylivandovskiy4975

    Обычная разбалансировка !
    Нахрена вам была такая гигантская мачта?

  • @TabsT-vy5jy
    @TabsT-vy5jy Před 20 dny

    Coz it couldnt stay afloat

  • @Freedo1234
    @Freedo1234 Před 22 dny +2

    The violent wind blow the high mast horizontal , the boat overturn with bottom up , very heavy mast in water , water rushed inside , boat sink , simple !

  • @wocookie2277
    @wocookie2277 Před 21 dnem

    Was the keel up?

  • @martynhoward4287
    @martynhoward4287 Před 21 dnem

    Because it filled up with water

  • @col.callan7961
    @col.callan7961 Před 21 dnem

    They were celebrating his fraud case win with friends, maybe the police should investigate.

  • @dougfreeland6957
    @dougfreeland6957 Před 22 dny

    Very strange 🤔

  • @brandonmcheyenehoward1077

    Look at the video. They had a mini tornado likely direct hit. The yacht has been in bad weather before. The neighbouring yacht ran to check his anchor just as it hit and their neighbour vanished in seconds. Freak of nature .. one off. The crew had no time to warn anyone and a few likely got out because they were on duty or knew the vessel inside out.those sleeping below 🙈 no one to blame but nature itself. We get these in my warm seas and on land, but usually not big enough to do real harm. If the doors were open it would have gone down not flips then turned. Too much ballast. Eaten by the seas. Wouldn’t be the first to be gobbled up by one of these Black Swan events

    • @juliettedonohue7069
      @juliettedonohue7069 Před 20 dny

      sad irony is that on a normal sized boat, (40 to 60ft), not so many people would have been trapped inside while the ship was going under; they would have had better chances of getting saved

  • @gavinboot4810
    @gavinboot4810 Před 21 dnem

    Get real,,if it was hot and humid,,the air conditioning would be working and port holes closed,,the crew would be up and on hand during any blow,,but it went down suddenly,,like the keel broke open the hull,,the cam footage just shows the white hull disappear level,,not tossed around like a water spout would do,,sus,,

  • @ericsynchrona5495
    @ericsynchrona5495 Před 22 dny

    it was a Qanon prediction when he saw the mast.

  • @janinecaramanus1392
    @janinecaramanus1392 Před 21 dnem

    Can't find answers with the forces of nature

  • @marcuscollins7018
    @marcuscollins7018 Před 21 dnem

    That’s complete bs.. that they cannot figure it out..

  • @BrianSmith-gp9xr
    @BrianSmith-gp9xr Před 20 dny

    Rediculous to have such a high mask. IMO. Look at it and say ..."What could go wrong" If laid on the side by winds for 30 seconds. and hatches open. The incoming water would be substantial weight that would delay the righting allowing more water and more weight that the keel could not overcome once the water spout passed. The long mask was hard to lift agaist the wind. Is the only theory I can come up with. Just a guess. A model can be built and tests made to see how well the boat can right itself once laid sideways with various amounts of water inside to determine if the design is flawed. or was it exessive water allowed in by error. Super bad luck in any case. What are the chances. ? Astronomical.

  • @PatrickEdwardsEdwards-p6j

    SOUNDS A BIT( FISHY) TO ME ??

  • @ArcticHeart-e5x
    @ArcticHeart-e5x Před 21 dnem

    Hubris?

  • @jeanmarcgomez1630
    @jeanmarcgomez1630 Před 21 dnem

    A British made yatch ?

  • @psystealth
    @psystealth Před 21 dnem

    daughter is missing!! not found

  • @Ron-hj1or
    @Ron-hj1or Před 21 dnem

    Next time leave the keel down

  • @3DATHENS-qi1tu
    @3DATHENS-qi1tu Před 21 dnem +1

    Experts Can't Figure Out Why the titanic sank after 120 years

  • @mcqcjc8409
    @mcqcjc8409 Před 21 dnem

    It had retracted keel and open windows cause it was like 20+ degrees at night - lets be honest - what else could have caused it to tip on its side and sink that fast.

  • @Renegade040
    @Renegade040 Před 21 dnem

    All these experts here, you all don't have a clue what happened, so stop putting all your wild theories what could have happened and leave it to the investigators. People died in this accident and the last thing family and friends of all involved don't need to read this crap.

    • @frankblangeard8865
      @frankblangeard8865 Před 21 dnem

      Why would family and friends be reading these comments on CZcams?

    • @Renegade040
      @Renegade040 Před 20 dny

      @@frankblangeard8865 are you sure about that. People will look at every news source to find out what could have happened, they hear about all these conspiracy theories from others as well.
      Just wait until all the facts are known. I'm a marine rescue skipper and hear all these theories all the time and most are nowhere near what actually happened.

  • @paranoidmarty
    @paranoidmarty Před 21 dnem

    The person in charge must be questioned by the police. Someone didn’t do their duty.

  • @bristolharris4118
    @bristolharris4118 Před 21 dnem

    God punishment is severe.

  • @joeking9149
    @joeking9149 Před 21 dnem +2

    Very typical Italian design. Very slick like the Ferrari but very fragile. This boat was always going to sink. The question was always going to be. When.

    • @triumphbobberbiker
      @triumphbobberbiker Před 21 dnem +2

      Nope. The designer is Ron J. Holland, a naval architect from New Zealand, now based in Vancouver. He has designed other famous superyachts. The yacht was built in Italy, for a Dutch entrepreneur.

  • @user-wj4zp1yu4w
    @user-wj4zp1yu4w Před 21 dnem +1

    In no way shape or form was this ever a black Swan event. That yacht should never have gone down. Doors should have been closed at night and WAS the keel fully down ?????? No one was confirmed that it was down and lock.......meaning that it perhaps was not. Then the Captain is to blame. I yacht nearby weathered it fine.

  • @MrWebrockk
    @MrWebrockk Před 21 dnem +1

    the massive mast/spreader system acted as a sail and keeled it over in high winds. poor design, and I'd bet the engineer nerds won't come out and admit it, but we'll notice subtle industry wide design changes over the next few builds. bigger, faster is not always better.

  • @roryoconnor1411
    @roryoconnor1411 Před 21 dnem

    The mast didn’t break. Divers saying it’s in tact.

  • @ashleymoore9063
    @ashleymoore9063 Před 21 dnem +1

    Captain raises the keel then abandons the ship at 5am in the morning .
    Or blame climate change

  • @Paulookingatyou
    @Paulookingatyou Před 21 dnem

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @steveleroux6116
    @steveleroux6116 Před 22 dny

    Design factors that cause the vessel to sink, mask too tall - Physics ??

  • @superyachtchef
    @superyachtchef Před 21 dnem +1

    🌟 Follow the money, 11 billion (USD) paid for 2.7 billion worth of tech company.. You can't fćuk with the son's of mother Russia!

  • @RobertLoyed
    @RobertLoyed Před 18 dny

    Hey freaking left the hatches open I mean God you got this on radar for hours this guy was drunk in his bed didn't know what in the world was going on. And then when you evacuated the boat the crew got all off and they left the passengers behind I mean talking about the worst captain in the world this guy and the crew should face manslaughter charges I was in the US Coast guard I know what happened they were drunk off their butts with the owners thinking they were below deck crew well let me tell you below deck is a fantasy world they need to go to prison😮

  • @jimmyclay9316
    @jimmyclay9316 Před 21 dnem

    You lost me at "climate change"