Down But Not Out, Not Yet At Least | Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa Match Reaction | Premier League
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0:00 Intro
3:45 Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa Match Reaction
5:35 Odegaard brilliant but off with a worry
7:40 Kai Havertz in midfield
9:04 Big chances missed
13:44 Ben White comes off, we concede
14:44 Zinchenko...
17:13 What did Arteta get wrong?
19:55 Liverpool lose
20:17 As it stands
22:10 Bayern up next
23:25 Q&A - Sport
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I’m in my late thirties so yesterday is of no surprise. I’ve been seeing Arsenal stumble when it matters in the league for 20 years. What I will say is that they need to make sure they take it to the final game and ask the question. Because as much as we talk about no title for 20 years-we also haven’t taken a title race to the last few games in 20 years either.
Keep in mind this is a young squad. Bukayo is 22 and Martinelli is 22. Those are two of our key players. Yes, they got guys hitting there primes like Jesus and Odegard now at 25. Some of these young guys need time still to maximize there potential. Look at how far Odegard has come since they got him. People got to remain patient. It speaks for itself how difficult it is winning.
It's hard to find answers after such a huge disappointment yesterday. But there is certainly no doubts about Unai Emery's credentials as a top class manager anymore. He has defeated both us and City in a convincing manner this season. So,its fitting comeuppance for those who showed him and Granit the utter disrespect they never deserved.
He was always a good manager,never a bad manager just did not suit us.. he does better at lower profile clubs( villa,Villarreal,Sevilla) than higher ones(arsenal,PSG)
@@arjitjere1559I think Emery did reasonably well at PSG and with us but was never given adequate time to develop a team in his own way
@@arjitjere1559Unai did fairly well in PSG and Arsenal. He just dint get the support and fine given. The player profile given to him from Wenger didn’t fit with his philosophy and I can 100% say he doesn’t do well dealing with drama queen players like Aubamayang or özil. He’s a very smart and tactical coach but he isn’t and agresor nor does he confront or punish guys.
What I found baffling was the amount of pundits and ex players saying Arsenal would beat Villa no problem. Yet Villa nearly always raise their level against us and are a really dangerous counter attacking team with a very good finisher in Watkins. I was very nervous about the match and hate that it proved to be one of those games.
I just think that when we aren't at our maximum level teams have a good chance, where as a City can be 2 levels below their best and still grind out wins, it was the same with title winning Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal teams of the past too.
Our game requires so much intensity that when the fixtures build up its too hard to maintain that level that blows teams away. If we had that elite finisher then maybe it wouldn't be much of a problem and as we know currently in modern football there are a shortage of elite finishers.
However on the positive side, if you can wipe your mind clean of what has happened and I said to you "if City draw their next game and Arsenal win we go top in mid April" I would bitten your hand off for that position.
Well firstly
If they had taken their chances in the first half we would have scored 3-4 goals
So the pundits weren't wrong in that regard
This Havertz performance just shows why we need a no. 9
EG Gyökeres
He got put in like 4 times and he fumbled each and every time this game
It was just like at Villa Park
Miss our chances and they take theirs
When they scored I just stopped watching cuz I knew they were not going to turn it around
Martinelli has been so poor since his return
The lack of indepth in the squad is so telling
But you still got to use them
I would have started the B team in the first half
Before the game started I knew it was about patience to score
Instead they went all Gung ho in the first half
Drew blanks and it went downhill from there
Mikel has to stop domination theory cuz we don't have the squad for it
And become practical like he did at Brighton
I want to see Vieria playing on the left with Martinelli
They better win at Bayern
Otherwise the ship will sink again
Last year came down to injuries and vital key injuries to Partey, Saliba, Tomiyasu and some of our offensive players burnt out like Saka. Also Ramsdale leaking goals. This season has been a much tougher season with all of our competitors (a few not) improving the squad. The issue for Arsenal this season is they corrected the defense. The defense though currently looks burnt out. The offense lacks creativity from a creative hub outside of Odegard and Jorginho when he’s at his best. Clinical finishing also an issue when they need goals.
@@javierlandaverde4108 very true, they look tired, not the same intensity we had a couple of months ago. Its so hard to keep that level up with midweek games as well.
Man Citys remaining 6 games are Brighton A, Forest A, Wolves H, Fulham A, Spurs A, West Ham H. In those identical fixtures last season, City won 3, drew 2, lost 1, so took 11 points from possible 18. I'm not saying they will go on to drop 7 points again, but in the words of Klaxons, "It's not over, not over, not over, not over yet"
A great stat
One drug you are using atm Hope-ium
@itachiuchiha108 not much point being a football fan if you don't have hope.
@@Norris83 sometimes you gotta be realistic at times, I am already there as a Lfc fan but lost hope the moment we drew to United City aren't losing any game any time soon...the sooner you realize the better you be at peace
@@itachiuchiha108 Loser mentality.
2:25 I absolutely love this advice. I was fuming last night, I had to delete twitter to get away from the toxicity. I'm still gutted with the result this morning, but it's not as bad as it could've been if I let myself absorb the overwhelming reaction from our fans and rival fans.
There are so many rival fans with fake fan accounts. Stay off of social media and talk to real people. You will get real thoughts and none of the crazy stupid stuff you have been reading! We are in this together
Gavrdiol, Silva, Foden, KDB all have scored bangers in thier recent games. When you are in a run in you need your big players to take responsibility. When was our last free kick goal. When was our last banger in dire moments( Rice one was when we were 5 0 up). All our goals are robotic and choreograped, big players need to take more responsibilities to create magic. Only player taking responsibility was Ø
Bro watched TDK and came to repeat it here I rate that
TDK needs promotion, he deserves it 😂
Hey Tom, we played against a team with their no. 1 mid out and had less prep time and won their midweek match and they still won. We were just done tactically and they were more drermined and we were not clinical enough. So fair play Villa. I am gutted as thought the pool loss was the perfect time to press on, regardless of the mid week game coming up. As I said when I was on the phone in at the end of last year, IF we are there or there abouts come this time of the season then we have a great chance. Now is the time for us all to get behind the team and for the more experienced players to galvanise everyone. Thanks for your continued content, especially on days like today, as I know it must have been a hard one to do. COYG
Should’ve won it in the first half. Second half they beat us fair and square
Always makes me feel better watching this show after a loss,it is therapy, keep doing it!
When the going gets tough, the tough gets goings. We will see.
Well done for your calm and calming assessment.
had to listen to this episode on Spotify for the first time in a while. just dropping by to leave my like. And I must say, CZcams is the superior TGT viewing experience!
its amazing to me, when we loose, all the nastiness comes out, and gets directed at Tom
It’s quite normal these days. I just wish the same energy from the same people was there when we win. It isn’t. I see names that don’t come up other than if we don’t win
That's crazy, but it says a lot! Love the channel mate ❤
Fabio Vieira is more like Odergaard you right.
Great points raised with the crowd. I was there this weekend and the away fans were loving the fact we were leaving.
Summed up the match well. Good in the first and didn't take out chances and poor second. Have to give Emre credit.
Social media has lost its mind now. It's our first loss in 2024. Out of our hands but we need to keep going till the end. 6 finals. Let's go.
Heads are gone mate, we’ve shown two matches in a row that we haven’t changed. City won’t drop more than 2 points and we still could lose more than one of these last games. No chance I’d even say Liverpool will finish above us now.
Zinny isn’t a defender. Just put him in midfield rotation. There’s always a defensive mistake whenever he plays. It can be demoralizing to the other defenders.
Cheers from Florida! Thanks for the show brother. We will bounce back.
I appreciate your “there is more in life than football” comment, it helps a lot. Let’s get Bayern!
Thanks Tom,disappointed for sure but seeing the fans leaving was gut wrenching. COYG❤
I agree Partey should have played a part in this game
Watching you on catchup now Tom. Great show as always ❤ Well said on the mental health aspect of things & however much you are invested in football & this team nothing should be more important than getting a healthy balance in not just football but anything that potentially could be detrimental to your well being.
Title race is not done yet & I believe city will drop some points but whether we can capitalise on that remains to be seen but we have to still believe. Right now we need to turn our focus on to CL & 🙏 🙏 COYG
It's kevin, good breakdown of game, I went to game missed our chances first half, that 1st goal in any game can be so important, I felt after 10 mins into 2nd half we needed to get hold of the midfield, for it makes it harder to win it know, but its not over yet, for me arteta doing a great job we are moving in the right direction, some squad not guite the level we're we are right know, loved your opening , for me I stop listening to certain pods and people who not like me , keep up the great work, take care
No anger, just heartache. It is like we are cycling against Lance Armstrong and no matter how we perform the inevitable happens and we fall short in the end 💔
Maybe a miracle is coming in the last few games though, not all of the hope is dead yet.
You are right. I did take a break after yesterday because I knew the fallout would be overdone. The display yesterday was appalling, they won't looking tired it was like their minds were already on the game against Bayern and they didn't want to get injured.
Second half display* and the finishing
It was soo painful yesterday but I avoid socials and wait on Tom😂
😂😂
Great points today, Tom! Thanks for helping me stay more positive cause at the final whistle I said to myself, it’s over. But you’re right, it’s hanging by a thread, which means it’s not over. As for the striker conversation, as you said, who is available, but also…..have we been a bit obsessed by this? We’ve scored so many goals and just this weekend have been finally caught up by city and only by one goal. Havertz can be that guy up top, I believe it now. And I know he killed us, but Ollie Watkins, what a player. I would go for him since he can help cover Saka when needed and can also shift to striker. I think our 100 million tier signing needs to be done in the midfield this summer, not on a no. 9. What do you think? As always, good show. Listen daily in the morning on my way to work in California! Cheers
Ollie Watkins is the striker we need
That was a fortuitous save by Martinez.
First half we should have put our chances away, I felt like Brighton last year when they beats us 0-3 at home.
Morning Tom! Love me some Arsenal, but even alone, single and 72, football is not the be all and end all for me.
The game should have been won in the first half. But for all the good that Arteta has done this is completely his fault. Playing Havertz in the middle, not subbing Zinny, putting Jorginho on instead of Partey etc etc. The midfield in the second half was non-existent
A lot of yesterday definitely falls on him
Any player unavailable is automatically the solution for us. Was hearing same things about Partey and Tomi and now they barely get a sniff, Timber is not going to have any impact this season, I will be surprised if he get any meaningful minutes at all
I sure hope our boys can throw off the lethargy before the coming games.
Up The Arsenal!!!
Same story as late last year. As they say in my country - “si no los hace, los ves hacer” (if you don’t score them, you see them score them).
Exactly Tom remove yourself from unnecessary stress this is just a game.
I’m here love the club love the sport I’m still alive and ready to enjoy the rest of the challenge.
A lose for arsenal and I lost in the same day a semi final of a cup on a team I coach.
People need to realise what you want to see happen arsenal win a league or cup is a very very difficult thing to do.
And it’s part of receiving the merit you get it when you win it that’s why not every club can win it every decade.
Look at United look at Liverpool before they won the last leagu, how long was it????
Mental health overall health is important. Don’t let a small result upset your life it’s a game only a game
Zinchenko will always be liability in defence, it frustrates me that his "inverted play" appears to give him licence to roam and forget his defensive duties. He was on the other side of the box when Bailey scored on the right. He was culprit, flicking the ball instead of clearing it, when Tielemans hit bar and post with his shot. I understand why Pep shipped him on...
14:19 what made the goal worse was the fact Zinnys not even at the back post near Bailey he’s floating about near the RB position.
Right he nowhere to be found even in the highlight
Before this match, we touted ourselves as everyone is fit bar Timber. Yet we failed to rotate and overplay the same 13 players resulting in a tired second half performance.
If we cannot trust the second squad, it is better we let them go and get the players we need. It is about the same as last season, players gassed out towards the last 2 months.
Think that’s because we have a squad of 16-18 players not 25
I said the same thing, about Ødegaard, to the North Bay Gooners as we watched the game.
Jesus is a good player but man he does miss a lot of opportunities. And yes, Havertz was good as the 9, so why stick him in midfield where he is just not as comfy.
Outplayed in the 2nd half, well done Villa. A class sucker punch!
I still love my Arsenal! Sucked watching that second half but we move. Agree Tom, my life is not Arsenal and living away from the hype and hub of ot helps. Once I am off of my phone Arsenal does not exist.
Villa done that for Martinez and Emery because of the way Arsenal treated them
I think Ben white came off because to be honest Zianolo had his number in the day, every out ball - he was able to bring down out of the air and lay it off, I felt he was tired and needed to come off as well. The switch that created the goal that came from that side was off the back of a set play, if you watch it was martinelli who lost his man no zinchenko. Zinny Gabriel and havertz are all on the right side. Rice and saliba are on the left which led to all sorts of confusion. Gabriel if he was right footed I think tries to poke the ball out for a corner but he has to settle for separating the player from the ball. We just go caught out, I think the players looked leggy.
We have played this formation without a player that can pass through the lines eg partey or jorginio this happened a lot before the dubai break and always ended up with us trying to breakdown a low block and not scoring and passing side to side or backwards I don't know what happened here should not be down to tiredness as only been a few games since the international break
I personally had villa down as the toughest game left, so after half time, id have taken a 0 0 ... title still possible , need more quality in depth. And that im sure is on the radar. Tired is the word mate
The hysteria is embarrassing around one loss .. also Havertz was outstanding in midfield FYI
He had a good game for sure. I just think he’s even better in the front
Give Havertz the number 9 shirt now! Huge huge mistake not keeping him up top
If we take even half our chances in the first half the game is over. The third man runs Havertz was making in the first half resulted in 4 goal scoring opportunities and he didn’t take any of them. Realistically with better first touches he should have scored on two of them. Those runs were clearly by design. Arteta must have wanted Havertz on the end of those runs instead of Rice.
Tom keep up the balance, football, mental health - Whether supporter, player or manager. It is imperative you have an appropriate relationship with life whatever your endeavour and the sentiment of the Serenity Prayer (don't think it's religious - it's wisdom)
You have to question when significance is out of balance. Football, Arsenal, can be an important part of your interest, but if your treating it as life you have to start asking yourself some serious questions. As for sitting in judgement over anyone, supporter, player manager - we can use our eyes, we can make assessments, be critical, unhappy disappointed - we should include the fact that we don't know why someone else has done something, what factors their considering, what do they know we don't, injuries, load, strength weakness, balance, opposition.
Want to sit in football judgement - go and do what it takes to be a professional player, coach, manager, live with pain when playing etc...
Damned if we use the squad, damned if we don’t. Not a fan of many of the match-day decisions, but really I’m more disappointed that the boys didn’t take the opportunity. Again, though, a lot of the decisions were baffling.
The outlook would be so much better if we were in a race with only Liverpool. If they drop points, no surprise. If Arsenal drop points, no surprise. But if Manchester City drop points, big surprise. Have to bounce back, of course, and be more efficient - among other things.
It feels like the movie Groundhog Day. I know it’s not the same but the result seems like it will be the same and it’s very depressing/expected.
On the day when Arsenals title hopes are out of our hands. Granite Xhaka became the 28th player to win a title since leaving Arsenal.
A hard loss to swallow Tom, especially the way we couldn’t get control of the ball in the 2nd half… ahh well that’s football, let’s hope we snap out of it and have a much improved performance against Bayern
Fans who are lucky enough to get the tickets should stand by our team not run off when things are going bad,that's when the team needs us all not when we're winning!!!pisses me off
You have to be able to keep composure and not panic and do things different from what's got you to this position all season. The 2nd goal conceded is nothing short of an embarrassment, at no point should Watkins be left unrecoverable there. An under 9s team would get a rollicking for that.
Credit to villa, but we have to be able to change things and stop them getting too much on top and still be a threat ourselves. We failed to do that. I think we seriously need to consider playing zinny at 8, as he's very much targeted by other teams at lb.
Would you say nothing’s changed then?
@@TheGoonerTalkTV I'd argue nothings changed in a lot of areas. Obviously a few individual players have caused improvements but Arteta still can't make an impact with his subs something he needs to sort out, Left back has been being exploited for three years, Fringe players carry on to absolute tank their values teams wouldn't pay 20 million for Smith Rowe, Nketiah, Vieira etc. Martinelli has had his yearly fall off.
Very similar to the last 3 seasons.
@@TheGoonerTalkTV I think we are definitely more robust and have taken a step in the right direction this season. I think just having that composure and some better decision making is the final step. From arteta and the players.
For sure there are games where zinny is a good option at lb, and I thought yesterday at home vs a depleted villa was one, and in the first half, I think it was. I think arteta is reluctant to take zinny off when we need to score as he sees it as a defensive move, but when the opposition is getting on top, I think a defensive move not only helps prevent that, but also provides a better foothold to be a threat ourselves
So despite the fact we could end up scoring more (than our record GS season) on track to concede less (a lot less) than last season.
Despite not losing to a big six side, including beating City and Liverpool, drawing at their grounds.
I think that’s mad
Tbf we bought the player to level up from Zinny. But we’ve not had him
I still believe City and Liverpool will drop points. We just need to make sure we win all our games.
13:02
You say Gyokeres is not the one, but previously I've heard you praising the guy and saying he's your pick for a striker. What changed your mind?
I haven’t changed my mind. He’s the one for the summer but he’s not “the one” in the sense of Declan Rice guarantee because it doesn’t exist. He and Isak are the best options but the latter I don’t think is available.
My mind hasn’t changed. I think you’ve misinterpreted my POV
@@TheGoonerTalkTV Glad you cleared that up 🙏
It's unfortunately always been Man City to claim the title, we're still just not quite there yet, one thing I would love to see though is our best keeper back in goal.
How do I try and join the phone in?
5pm link will be in the chst
@@TheGoonerTalkTV Nice one
Arteta need to trust his bench. If ESR did that well at Luton but didn’t make bench on the next game, it’s concerning. Let them go this summer if they’re not good enough.
I've seen alot of comments on social been so negative..proper losers mentality which says lot about them people...also give Tierney another chance..his a proper left back..
Hello TOM, I can’t see how is not over, we have to play totenham, Chelsea and United (those matches form dont matter), city only hard fixture is totenham. So when we say is not over we expect arsenal lose less points than city with the matches remaining?? With city finding their end of season form, and us last time we were they we did not make it. I’m so so disappointed, now I’m going to Munich with fear and bad bad feeling!! Plus you can have anger when you lose 6 points against villa, 5 against Fulham, and teams like that!!
We’re just different mate. Pessimism vs optimism
@@TheGoonerTalkTV is not that I’m pessimist (a bit) but I need fact to be positive, I need background, and so far city did it 2/3 time going on a run in the end of the season and arsenal had it last year we both now what we did, plus the run of game just checked again really they have Fulham, wolves,forest, Brighton, wesh ham only spurs I really see as tough for them, so where this positivity is coming from?? I would like to be positive too but I need something to be, if I was a city fan even before what happened this weekend I would be positive but not with what arsenal did so far!!
From optimism and fandom mate
@@TheGoonerTalkTV Okok mate let’s see tonight, for me even if I love arsenal I need them to prove me they changed, those previous year so so many disappointments, last year the title, the year before top 4, can go back even more they need to prove me they are différents now for me to start to think they will make it. COYG
Others note I visited the Bayern academy my gosh just unbelievable!! Hope I will visit hale end soon!!
Its like we are Martin Odegaard FC 🙄 when he is not there we can't attack, cant press, cant score and can't create.
And that performance by ESR ( i know im being harsh and its unfair to say it) was very poor. I didn't see any hunger. Why didn't he bring Fabio instead for Martin 😪
This City team will be known as one of greatest teams of all time (albeit with some dodgy financial practices), so it's going to take something special to take it down. That said, I desperately want us to give a good account of ourselves in this run in, which we can still do, but the major worry I have is the fitness levels. And it's not just team tiredness but also the condition of our dynamic attackers. Saka, Martinelli & Jesus are all operating well below what they are capable of when fully fit. I hope I'm wrong on this, but it feels like we're almost again in 'run out of gas' territory.
Well for me I have seen nothing to puzzle on this defeat it is football you can't always accept success, we loose we accepted and we forecast for another march, this doesn't mean Arsenal can not win the premier league, this teams are human both and manager, they can make error so I beseach the fun should hold on and exercise patient and give the team a chance I am sure they will make it.
Could anyone think of game where Zinchenko has impressed you defensively?
Nope sell him. He's useless. Make timber no1 and ferdi kadioglu impact off the bench
Zinny is a really good squad option to have when we are playing teams we expect to dominate possession and that aren't as dangerous on the counter. He is also ok if you have a 6 playing that can cover him defensively. However Timber was brought in because he can do what Zinny does but is much more of a solid defender and far more athletic. Expect so see Timber in that LB role next season.
I think I’m now in the sense that Arsenal can get an upgrade on Gabriel Jesus. Love the player but he’s always unavailable, out of form and a few instance he has flashed some brilliance. He’s never really gotten to that form where we initially signed him last season and he has absolute killer form until he got injured before the World Cup. He’s becoming like Partey.
One of the only good things about yesterday is that spurs have to turn up against city if they are to get top 4. 5th place may not get champions league . City have never won at spurs.
All on Arteta what was his plan B ? Why change the system that is working for the last 12 games?
Villa also fighting for top 4, remember, BIG INCENTIVE FOR THEM
I wish someone would upload a whole season under George Graham. Younger Gooners might get a bit of perspective
These never make any sense to me. Graham’s Arsenal get battered in today’s league. It’s a different time stop trying to template it. It doesn’t work.
It’s over for us.
We have a losing record on away games in UCL this season .Bayern Munich will have their fans back for their home fixture .Not to mention they hasn’t lost at home in UCL.
Bayern Munich lost the Bundesliga due to road performances
We got embarrassed at home by Aston Villa missing Douglas Luiz which is critical for their attack.
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Saka so bad about taking too many touches. Buy a ticket and take a ride lad! He'd have 25 to his name this season but he's afraid to touch the ball with his right foot.
I think this loss will be a kick up the back side to just remind the players what's at stake.
Huge blow in title race,so disappointed. I cant see city slipping up with 6 ganes to go but this title race has countless twists. Tom Trossard miss was more of an excellent save by martinez,lets give him credits.Was not a very bad miss. Jesus on the other hand had a bad miss
Arteta in his Southgate era
Pressure off us now it's on City.
Why ARTETA a change up the starting lineup?
ARTETA make we lose the game because him a used the wrong players to start the game cause how you fi have a good second half player an you want to put him in the starting lineup?
We moan if he doesn’t rotate. We moan when he does rotate. He can’t win
Hello Tom, Frankly the support from Arsenal fans was comical. Was Zinny getting booed off the first time since Xhaka? The only thing more disappointing than that collective performance from every single player was the fans in the Emirates. I swear you couldn’t tell who was the home team that had 2 days extra rest in the second half. Poor from everybody.
TBH this team problem is mentality. They can't get momentum way to be champ. Our young carry players like Martinelli, Odegaard & Bukayo can't aprove that mentality. This team can't ready face two competitions as priority. Its gonna be two season with twice bottled. Its done Tom its done.
How do we change that?
Not a football question Tom, but is civil war any good? Put my old mind off yesterday
I didn’t see it in the end. But I’ve heard really good thibgs
ARSENAL defensive players looked tired 2nd Half. Gabi and Sali have been playing too much.
Arsenal need a striker, I am tired of seeing Gabriel Jesus as a striker. That guy is not just good at finishing.
All the ills of today's performance can be laid at the feet of Arteta's selections and substitutions. They were unfortunately emotional and arrogant. He believed that his coaching could override the natural dispositions of players.
It was a pre-Dubai team selection with pre-Dubai results (plenty opportunities but an inability to score). As a fanbase we've been very superstitious about what happened in Dubai and how it transformed us. And of course we dont know all the secret sauce tactical, cultural, and psychological interventions used- but it is clear that one major visible transformative pivot was positional- Havertz as the centre forward, the 4 part midfield with Jorghino as base, etc. It is telling that the first game that we reverted to the pre-Dubai shape we got a pre-Dubai performance and result. Cause and effect. Let's learn that lesson quickly!
Our flaws against Villa were entirely positional. And those affected individual performance.
Im stating the obvious: Havertz should have started as centre forwatd not midfield. Jesus should have come on as a second-half sub- and then to replace Saka. Martinelli needed to start because this match was supposed to be a match for sprinters. Trossard should come on in his best role as high-impact substitute. Jorghino needed to start in the midfield and he and Rice could have alternated roles- on top or sitting deep- during the game according to the workload and to confuse Villa. Tomiyasu should have started over Zinchenko for defensive solidity. We all know what has worked in 2024!
By messing with the line-up Arteta messed with the team's flow, and we are at a part of the season when flow is supreme, when muscle memory can serve you well to get over the exhaustion and injury line when you're knackered. Players should get rest by playing only 45- 65 minutes- not by sitting on the bench during their most productive period. A post-Dubai team selection puts away those chances we were presented..
Arteta's unnecessary tinkering derailed the campaign last year pre-City, and he needs to learn the lesson quickly that Frankenstein monsters dont work for title charges!. Let the team be the beautiful Monster that it originally was post-Dubai. Now is not the time to tinker and second guess. Play People in their natural positions!!! There's nothing as tiring as having to act against type- and the team today simply suffered from being miscast...
Look, I love Arteta, but today he just got it horribly wrong.
The other issue is that it is time we formally designate Unai and Villa at home as bogeys. The reason why this is important is that Arteta and this Arsenal have overcome every single bogey systematically. Lets officially put Unai and Villla on the bogey-destruction whiteboard and execute. Next to Bayern...
We can still win everything by beating every team in front of us (and praying that City slip up at least once!)- the Super post-Dubai Team can do that with a cleverly used subs bench. Lets learn that lesson. Let's go, you Gunners!!!
both trossard and jesus should have scored
Indeed
If City wins again this competition, I will indefinitely be away from any football for the foreseeable future. They have ruined the joy of supporting Arsenal for me
It’s over don’t be naive
Arsenal winning the league is done - Probably and mathematically it's Cities!
Technically however it's not done - If Arsenal don't work to max points and goals in the remaining fixtures - that's a much bigger problem than the last two results. Arsenal need to be playing for now and their future opportunities. Doing less will dent that momentum more significantly than a couple of fixture results.
As for suppoters leaving when things get tuff for the team. That's not a supporter that's the actions of a rat leaving a sinking ship!
ITS ALL OVER CONGRATS MAN CITY
Not over? 😂 do you rly think city lose? 😂. Will believe that when I see it 🤷♀️
Do I think? No. Do I know they will win every game. No. That’s football.
TROSSARD should not start the game because he play much better second half….
Just release Partey at this moment. Useless.
Awful! Just awful performance, team selection, substitutions, goals conceded
You are so negative
If I’m negative, all hope is lost 😅 amazing the spectrum of responses I get on the same point.
Humanity I guess.
@@TheGoonerTalkTV you spend about 10 minutes saying all the negativity you could come across whats funny is last week it was different but one game and you guys are back it's like deep down you want us to lose
Think you listened to a different show mate
It is a tough ask ladies and gents. I very much would wish you a good day . Smash the like button for our 1k every day .. afterall, we only lost half as bad a spurs 😂
Arteta out