This Mod Prevents Your PS2 Laser From Burning Out | The PicFix Mod
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- This Flaw Could Kill Your PS2, Install this Before It’s Too Late
There are several variations of the PS2 that have a fatal design flaw tied to the console's mechacon chip. This flaw could cause the DVD drive’s laser to burn itself out if you simply put in a game disc that has a scratch on it or if you have a modchip installed and play burned game discs. Inserting a “bad” disc into the PS2 could cause the mechacon to crash which would lead to the laser burning out. This fatal flaw can be fixed with a simple mod, let’s check it out!
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This is no where near as bad as the clock capacitor in the original xbox
Yes
Don’t know what Microsoft was thinking with that clock cap
@@MachoNachoProductions They definitely weren’t thinking about capacitor plague lol
That clock capacitor cost me a mobo. Hopefully there is a solution to that thing, unless I was living under a rock and there's already one
@@Damon9892004 the solution is remove it!
Instead of soldering to one side of the SMD resistor, you could solder to the via right next to it. It connects to that side of the resistor and there is less chance of component damage.
Nice! Good to know there’s another point to solder to 👍
On the GH-023 board there is a solder pad on the opposite side of the board as well. It leads to another via and then to the dsp cxd3098 chip.
My qsb I'm designing for the GH-023 is flush against the resistor side and blocks all of the surrounding area to avoid bridges.
Another point is as follows from left to right:
Y, K,I,H,G,B,A.
In your typical modchip install count one immediately left of point I and that will also yield the mechacon signal needed for the laserfixes.
Cheers!
pic's ?
@@haloslayer255 show us. :O
I have the v8 scph 39000, still works fine with matrix 1.38 since 2003 when i've brought it, do i need to worry about it to my specific model?
I'm honestly surprised that the ps2 wouldn't have a hardware analog constant current limit on the laser diode drive circuitry to prevent this, completely independent of the mechacon operation. This is how most optical drive systems work, so the closed loop servo mechanisms cant force the components to operate beyond their physical/electrical limits.
Sjm4306 yo man! That is odd isnt it 🤔
NEEEEERRRDDDD
Jk but I didn't understand a word you just said
they did this on purpose so pirates have a difficult time trying to chip their ps2
@@Truth-hk2dv look at early ps3 consoles, they are the worst offender
Sony did it on purpose and got sued for it iirc
Another great video, thanks Tito! I love the simplicity of this mod fixing a rather complicated issue. We as end users are so fortunate to have such amazing people developing these mods!
I love how simple and clean this mod fix is. The retro community continues to amaze. Thanks for another great video (and for giving us a blooper reel)!
Totally agree! The retro community is incredible! Glad you enjoyed the bloopers!
About that board from the previous video, check the fuse at location ps13, that controls the spindle motor ic. It's been a while since I've replaced any fuses but iirc the type to replace with is:
FCC16 401 or TF16SN 0.40 or ERBFEOR40S from the copper silkscreen on a v9, should be compatible with v10 though.
Cheers!
Awesome! Thank you haloslayer! I have someone looking at it right now and will let them know to check out the fuse. Thanks for all your work supporting the modding community 🙏
I recently pulled an SCPH-50001/N out of the electronics bin at my local town dump. The other day I took it up to the tech center at my local community college and we were able to get it running.
Turns out the power supply had died, but the motherboard and DVD drive were working just fine. Hell, there was even a game still in the DVD drive!ATV Offroad Fury 2 in case you’re wondering.
Rather than replace the dead power supply with another power supply of the same model that would’ve probably just died again at some point, we pulled the old power supply out, and soldered a barrel connector to the motherboard’s power leads, allowing the console to use an external power brick. The barrel connector pokes out through the hole that was previously occupied by the power switch for the original power supply.
I’m probably gonna try the PicFix mod at some point to preserve the optical drive. It still works perfectly for the time being, but better to prevent a problem rather than cure it y’know? I also have a slim PS2 that I’ve had since 2006, but luckily it’s an SCPH-75001, so it doesn’t have this issue
Might even try to install a mod chip once I get more proficient at soldering.
Though I probably won’t use the DVD drive that much anyway. This console actually had an official PS2 network adapter attached when I found it so I’ll probably just install a hard drive or SSD. Already have all of my PS2 games backed up on my PC anyway
Definitely gonna replace the cooling fan at some point though, maybe with a Noctua fan like you did in one of your other videos.
Hell, I might try to track down a copy of the PS2 Linux distro to mess around with. So many possibilities now!
Hands down one of the best channels. Nice tidy and simple.
Thank you 🙏
Con: The PS2 Fat is a such a pain to disassemble.
In all reality I’ll probably skip this mod unless I’m doing maintenance. I suppose I’m taking a minor risk, but I only play legit discs and resurface anything that looks questionable.
You should be good to go. Mostly concerns burned media but has also been known to crash with scratched discs. Well taken care of authentic discs great mitigates the problem
It is the first time, but once you get used to it it becomes quite trivial. When I was cleaning out and fixing my phat PS2, I had to take it apart at least 15 times. The first time was rough to say the least, but afterwards I could crack that baby down to the bare motherboard pretty quickly.
One of the fuses failed on mine. That was _so fun_ to nail down.
@@frostech3149 this, its really annoying first couple times but really isn't too bad, there aren't tons of screws all over the place or confusing sizes for them. For the fat, if you been using it for years or someone else has and its never been cleaned for dust, I would highly recommend you put in the effort... There are so many places for that dust in that console
It is believed that "MechaCon crash" is intentional by Sony, since the DSP chips of the DTL-H models have firmware changes that prevent it
Happy I found your channel. I cant get enough of console modding
I even ordered a Raspberry Pico and a SP2SD for my Gamecube after your recent video
Thank you 🙏 so glad you’re enjoying the channel! Nice! The picoboot mod is awesome, you’ll love it 👍
I did the same thing:-)
Great Video! I love the bloopers at the end
Haha, thanks! 😁
Beautifully done my dude!
Thanks man!
I had no idea about this. Thanks for sharing! Fastest PS2 teardown in the west 🤠
Your intro was really well done! It was like a MKBHD video
I really appreciate the blooper at the end. Your videos already have a very personal and genuine feel to them, and that sent that same feel through the roof. Thanks for all you do for the community!
Thank you Simione 🙏 so glad you enjoyed the blooper 😁! I may have to make it a regular occurrence. I have plenty of bloopers to show 😅
I found out I missed some of your videos in my subscriptions.
But now that I've seen this one I want to thank you for another great video.
I am considering installing this mod. My PS2's are used mostly without optical discs now that I have hard drive and network installed on them combined with freemcboot. But just to be sure I want this mod to be there.
0:40 When you saw the intro has retro classic game consule gems, and the satisfying techno game music in the background, you know you're in the right place.
This video was a bit different but VERY HELPFUL!!! You were able to demonstrate what a flawed install can look like and end up as, and you didn't even try to LOL :P - With the jokes out of the way it is a GREAT thing you were able to show us, I just wish you had gone into more detail in the original video... it was quite confused as to what happened and it seemed like a cheap low blow of some sorts at the time... like you making it up or something... but I really didn't think that was the case, it just could have seen that way... again, it was just confusing at the time... but now that I know what happened, it all worked out smoothly.. We all make mistakes.
Anyway, this is one of those mods that does give you any instant gratification from all your hard work, but it is TOTALLY WORTH THE EFFORT! Thanks for showing this to the world, I know I NEVER heard about it and most modders would likely skip over it and go for the big toys to add on.... now if I only had a PS2 lol!
-- do you have any add-on/mods fo4r the PS4 Pro?? Not the typical jailbreak that is just so simple, I mean adding cool stuff on to the second greatest system created (even though I have yet to buy a PS5.. I'll just assume it's the best lol) Maybe upgrading a the internal storage to 2 or 4TB .. integrating the Pi Zero INSIDE the console so you don't have to leave it taking up your rear USB port (the pi zero does all the keystroke to initiate the jailbreak as soon as you turn it on - in case you didn't know) - just some cool add-ons - I want to do something to my baby, I just don't know what :) THANKS!!! :D
Dont have any ps4 pro mod videos yet but perhaps in the future 👍😁
So finally, after 20 years, I know why the laser in my modded PS2 died so often. Very interesting.
I had this happen to 2 PS2s back in the day when they were Sony's newest console. I always kept 1 of them just in case something like this came out. This is great!
This prevents damage, it wont reverse it.
At this point you just need a crystal case to show off that beautiful wiring job.
I tried once installing a ModBo chip and ended up frying my laser because it got stuck (apparently a wrongly made connection on the modbo chip). I had to replace the Laser with an aftermarket one, and now everything works. But after what happened, i will definitely be installing this one next just to be sure, ever one joint goes cold or the mechachon decides to freeze again, my poor laser dont get burned again.
Thanks as always for the great content !
I had the same problem. Definitely got to double check solder joint and connections. It’s a great mod for piece of mind. Cheers!
I'll probably skip this mod, as when I do mod my PS2 slim (my only remaining PS2 model, got rid of my phat PS2 years ago), it'll be to play games off some sort of HDD solution. Still, this is great, especially if it becomes possible down the road to replace burnt out laser mechanisms. Great video, Tito!
Thanks bucktwenty!!
My PS2 slim still trucking 17 years later 🤣. Xbox one: 6
The laser on my V9 PS2 just died a year ago. I was devastated, because I like having the full functionality of all of my systems, including disc drives, even if I use the hard drive instead (for various reasons)
I'm going to install this in my PS2 before I buy a new optical pickup
> me, moments into this video "oh god my beloved ps2 is at stake i hope this mod isn't too difficult or expensive"
>me, moments later "oh just the disc drive, couldn't care less lol"
Love the outtakes! Which version of the PS2 would you say is the best for compatibility with mods/running game backups?
Haha, glad you enjoyed them! That’s a great question. Can’t say I know which would be the best, but I think most should be okay. I would steer clear of the models mentioned in the video unless you do a mod like the picfix. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.
What I'm curious about is if it would be worth the effort to locate the burnt-out part(s) of that motherboard and replace it/them.
I think I'm going to stick to the hard-drive setup on the PS2s I have. All of mine are second (or more) hand units that I picked up specifically for the tinkering of. I bought a slim not too long ago because it showed more promise of working with the memory card slot option. But with how much work is still needed on it, that's going to be a while. I don't know if any of the lasers work properly on my PS2s, they all have similar issues with that, which is why I probably got them so cheap. Oddly enough, the laser on the hard drive setup is able to rip games onto the hard drive, which I found interesting since it otherwise won't read disks for play.
I would suggest this mod to anyone that would want to preserve their laser, and also advise them to find someone with experience in soldering. I feel like mine are long since gone for it though. :(
Watching the premier exactly as my dinner got served ❤️
Nice!!
lol, the blooper is a nice touch. wouldn't mind seeing more of those
I didn't know about this design flaw until now. I'll have to keep this mod in mind because I play a lot of physical games on my PS2. Mostly, I've kept it around for playing PS1 games in component video.
Surprised there's still no clone systems of the PS2 floating around yet. You'd think there'd be some given that Sony's patent on the hardware has since expired.
Do you know how complex the PS2 is? Let alone emulate it. Projects like MiSTer got to Saturn/PS1 emulation just recently. i don't think we'll see a "ps2 clone" in, say, 15 years or so. Unless FPGAs get a massive jump in performance.
This only applies to anything beyond V7 and V8. Such as SCPH5000X’s and beyond. The much loved SCPH3X000’s aren’t affected. Personally i’d rather take the improved heatsink out of the SCPH5000X and put it into a SCPH3X000.
The FPGA scene has to first get to the Sega Saturn, N64 and the Sega Dreamcast before it even considers something as complex as a PS2 with its Emotion Engine and GS chip.
If your model is v8 or lower you should be okay.
1st time I hear of this and I call it nonsense. At least for the European market that is.
Plenty of people I know had and still have different PS2 from day 1 to last gen and I can say that the only reason why laser died out is due to it's shelf life and user neglect.
I restored plenty of PS2 and PS1 for 20 years and never hear of this crap. Unless the mod chips we used somehow fixes these problems hence why didn't know.
My 1st gen PS1 had it's 1st laser replacement in 2016 while some people complain how there is a design flaw of overheating the laser. Which I can see but mine never had the issue.
My fat PS2 simply stopped reading properly newer games at one point due to the fact the revisions got better performance, my slim PS2 had it's 1st laser replacement in 2018. I still have few last gen slims they still work fine with factory lasers.
All of them are chipped day one of purchase.
The only lasers we had to replace etc were the ones that were caked in junk and dust. With few exceptions that some simply fry due to bad electronic mains in some house holds. Often it fry the power supply and few components.
I once lost a PSone due to an outage where a huge burst of electic shock struck in a second later, there was like at least 20 on and off attempt in span of few seconds and by the time I unplugged it from the outlet it was too late. It fried the power supply laser and spindle motor the rest had minor damages. I lost few TV sets and some things in the house at that time and had to sue the electric company for compensation. We got some discounts for few months instead ... I was so pissed.
But yeah I never seen or heard this laser going bad due to reading bad or backup discs ... I run backups from day one ...
i love the way you use the wires!!!!
Wish I still had my original thick ps2. I got a slim to replace it, as it quit working years ago. That white ps2 is beautiful.
Good to know about this. Just bought a Japanese PS2 that (by model number) can have this failure. I would have preferred a tutorial using an unmodded system, but that's just a nitpick
Nice job, your hands have gotten so much steadier, lookin like Voltar
Now I know why my old PS2 suddenly broke after playing extremely scratchy disc.
Aweome video, Tito! I am for sure going to instsll this!
Thanks Todd!
Modzville is awesome. Enjoy his vids.
Now do a video repairing the board you messed up :). I recently did something similar and it required a new fuse and the BA5815FM replacement. Not sure if your repair is the same but that is the laser controller IC.
I have someone looking at it but it apparently is most likely a blown fuse
Hey Tito! I'd love to see you or Voultar or someone do an internal bluetooth mod.
I've been eyeing the Brooks converter and was thinking about soldering it into the port contacts and routing it into the drive bay to tuck away to keep the front clean. It'll probably be my first hardmod though, so I wished someone had a video of it. 😅
I have a 3000x model with freehdboot but im gonna watch anyway because your videos are great
You almost gave me a heart attack. My PS2's DVD drive died years ago so I removed the whole assembly and have used FreeHDboot since.
I have a SCPH 5000 that already has drive problems from the plastic gears being worn out. I ended up making it worse by doing a lens position adjustment without marking the original position for the adjustment screw
Thankfully this all happened around the time OPL came out, so I've been 99% hard drive ever since.
But I should still do this mod if I ever get around to fixing the gears and lens position. It would be nice to have the ability to play any used games I pick up without having to rip them first, and not worrying about damaging the laser if they're scratched up
Loudest snapper on CZcams!
Another awesome video!
Edit: Also love the inclusion of outtakes. Your presentation skills are so awesome I figured you didn't make mistakes! Lol
Haha, thank you. I actually make a lot of mistakes 😅
This seems like such a rare problem, over the years I've put hundreds of discs in my ps2 that had scratches and I never encountered this issue.
Nice! What model ps2 do you have?
in a sense, i've used that to my advantage.
my copy of fatal frame 2 has been played to death, so it has some light scratches i'm sure. or at least some level of wear and tear. but when i hear the disc spinning in a particular way/particular speed, i've used that to determine a random encounter is about to occur.
I had 2 different playstation 2 consoles die while playing gtaiii. I always thought it was weird they died with the same game...
My ps2 doesn't even have dvd drive, it was physically ripped out by previous owner. But you don't need it to play games and that is beautiful.
Honestly the optical drive in my experience is the worst part of any console and should be ditched at first opportunity, if other ways to launch games are present for that system.
The optical drive is definitely one of the greatest point of failures on any console. I think it great that we have options to not need the drive but I do enjoy popping on a cd every once in a while.
@@MachoNachoProductions there is some guy working on ps1 games running from usb via some deckard hacking, if that thing is released then ps2 may be finally be fully free from need of disks, though that does not apply for mechacon models.
watch?v=OlSdBusJHks
Nintendo Switch: Hold my cartridge
@@TN_AU Too bad actually being able to play it requires paying an extra $70 to avoid dealing with the crappy joycons.
@@TN_AU many cartridge games require updates to add the necessary game content (AKA zero day updates) which is fine if you hacked your switch (then you can just download those updates from a different source) but if you have a later model switch and didn't install a mod chip when the service shuts down you're not going to be able to get those zero day updates anymore.
So the cartridge's added durability over the unupdateable optical discs is effectively offset by the fact that the games require zero day updates to either be finished if not in some cases even playable.
This is just on the switch though, other cartridge based systems like the DS and 3DS don't really have this problem (3DS games still use updates but they don't have mandatory zero day updates to my knowledge).
Even the older PS2's had another laser problem:
they were designed to fail over time (planned obsolescence).
I replaced lots of lasers in PS2's for friends in the mid 2000's before the V9's ever existed.
This is literally Clock Capacitor: PS2 Edition.
Haha, very true!
At least it doesn't actually kill the system like the clock capacitor does to the Xbox.
Never had such a crash, but I've had a number of fat units in the past that had disc read errors. I'd usuall just fix the error and stick the unit in a pop top instead of using the drive arm.
The crash from my understanding usually happens with a bad disc with scratches or if you have a modded console and play burned games. If your console is unmodded and your game discs are in good condition, you should be okay 👍
So if i have a v5 (i guess is v5 since is 3000x R) im fine right?
a really detailed and clear guide as always!
In general, I believe you should be okay. From my understanding this mostly affected v9-v12
Thx a lot!
Hi Tito, thanks for the advise, I had no idea this was even a problem. Sadly my PS2 Slim is in fact a V12 :(. Unfortunately, the picfix is sold out in the store you linked. Do you know if they will restock it or another place to get it? Thanks.
Hey Fernando! From what I understand modzville should be restocking this Monday 👍. Cheers buddy!
Hey Tito im wondering if previous models like the SCPH-3000xR with boards v5 and v6 have the same issue with the laser? I've seen people in Mercado Libre (south american eBay) who sell modbo 4.0 and 5.0 with a little board with diodes saying its a "laser protection" but they don't know for wich specific boards are.
Thanks for the video, it was pretty awesome. But where can we find pcbs with the pic. I did'nt found one on eBay.
Love your videos
Thanks! They’re being sold on the modzvilleusa website that I have link in the video description.
@@MachoNachoProductions Sadly, it's sold out. Any word on restocking or other place to get it?
never knew about this issue! Guess im going to have to crack open my PS2
You have solder to a tiny resistor? That is not easy.
It's a good public service announcement.
I wonder if this is the reason I can't get Swap Magic to work on my PS2 anymore. It still boots up the disk and get to the "Load disk" screen, but when I load a backup DVD of one of my games it just keeps saying "Not a valid PS2" disk. My PS2 slim is a scph-77001 series. It'll boot regular PS2 games just fine though, so it could be something else.
I remember neeing to do the romeo mod on the mobo because chips could fry the laser. Would this be similar to that? Or this one (plus romeo mod) would be recommended?
Is there anything like this we should worry about in Phat V 1-3 and Slim V16 revisions?
As far as I know you should be in the clear with this models
Interesting theme for future videos.
First software exploit for ps2 - Independence exploit (2003)
This flaw killed my 70000 slim with the v12 board about 15 years ago. I used swap magic discs with the lid spring bypass. Originally I thought the burns killed the laser but eventually this flaw was discovered and now it’s obvious that’s what happened. All as Sony intended because it isn’t even a conspiracy to say this was intended to be an anti-mod function that, like most anti-mod functions, backfired and was corrected (removed) from some 70001 and all 75000’s forward.
Hope you get that PS2 fixed.
Someone is looking at it and I think they should be able to repair it. Fingers crossed 🤞
What DVD-Video disks form DVD-/+ R/RW and mixed Audio-CDs on CD-R or CD-RW disks?
What a great video about soldering if I pronounce it correctly it's like school a fantastic education but I'm wondering if this works on the 39001 USA models
I wonder how necessary this is unless you are using a lot of burned media on your PS2.. I've never seen the mechcon crash from a legitimate disc before but I suppose anything is possible and a mod like this is great for peace of mind.
Keep in mind that this damage only happens once. So, it's not going to be very common. But, if it does happen, it's a rather big deal as replacement parts are only going to get harder to come by over time.
Definitely burned games will cause the crash most of the time. Scratched disc are also known to cause crashes as well but less prevalent
Well I could see this being very useful only because if you have a PS2 and it is going to need your visions you're more than likely going to buy games used which could have scratches on them not to mention stuff happens to games discs if you are around little kids or if you drop them stuff like that so this could be a very useful tool to keep it alive I think I've done had two or three PS2 to do this s*** because of me buying these games especially from a sketchy pawn shop that I used to go to when I was a kid that does not exist no more because the building looks like a grenade went off in it I live in northwest Florida so Michael
tito, will you please do a video on retrosix new screen mod "Clean Screen" for GBA? It apparently has accurate colors compared to other ips screens. It also fits in OEM shells with no mod or trim!
Thank you for your video
Dude that white PS2 looks beautiful, I didn't know there was a white one.
I personally have OPL set to disable the disk drive on my slim. Moving parts with lasers, boy where we daring cowboys once
That’s a great idea, especially if you’re not using the drive
I have a PS2 slim I was just wondering what are the symptoms of the console overheating.
How do still have this issue especially on some GH-022-xx boards?
I have the video on my channel
I was also playing Ratchet and Clank 3
My original PS2 is really old got it then MGS2 came out, I'll have to check my version. Do the versions prior to 9 have the same flaw?
I do not believe they do. Not 100% sure though 😅
@@MachoNachoProductions thanks Tito!
Sounds like you have a 300xxR or earlier
I have a hard Drive loader so i don't need the DVD Drive anymore but nice video
The Playstation 2: What you don't know, might kill you! More news at 11.
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I have the v8 scph 39000, still works fine with matrix 1.38 since 2003 when i've brought it, do i need to worry about it to my specific model?
So what about the 39000 and 30001 (this has the DMS4 Pro modchip) obviously an older model?
Thanks for stating the wire gauge :-D
No problem 👍. I use these wires for most of my mods
damn, i wish i know about this earlier
like..... 20 years ago
Hm. So this is what it was.
Back when we had a slim ps2 with a modchip installed, while I was playing a bootleg copy of a game, it stopped loading on a black screen. The thing was I couldn’t turn the ps2 off using the power/reset switch (resetting it does nothing too) and opening the disc tray didn’t stop the disc from spinning and kept scraping off the stopper bump thing. After replugging, it didn’t read my game and going to the browser it’s stuck at reading the disc, opening the tray again exhibited the same behavior (it didn’t freeze the ps2 itself tho which is probably the weirdest thing). Since then, it struggled to read discs then burning out shortly after, that’ll teach me for playin them bootlegs I suppose.
Whew, what a ramble. I didn’t think I’d get my curiosity from the back of my childhood get answered so randomly like this.
A rare issue for sure when playing original discs, but could be useful. A fried Mechacon is the last thing I want. **shivers** So many horror stories.
Well, i honestly just load ISOs from a hard drive i hate repairing a bad laser, however, recently i was just using the newly revised PCSX2 for most games duo to lack of space to hook up any console and also a bulky CRT which is a must have for retro games, however i know it's not an ideal way to play retro games if ur a retro hardware fan but, well, it upscale to 4k, i can apply widescreen hacks upscale textures and so on
What is the soldering iron your using?
I've had two PS2's over the last 20 years, and never had any laser problems. I think both are earlier 39000 models.
The 39000 Series is considered by many the best model and the most reliable one ... It is also the last "Made in Japan" - the UK Model, at least (39003) ... Cheers
I had a modchipped ps2 slim that had this issue. but not only the lens was fried, the motherboard had a dead resistor (¿?) as well. the dead resistor was removed but then it would not read all games or woulf crash on certain others.
Yeah, burned laser assembly can be replaced and you should be good. Did you replace the dead resistor?
Mechacon, a “Transformer” in disguise 🤣
Haha, I think the same exact thing every time I hear mechacon. Such a cool name for a chip
How do I determine if mine is a V9 model, does it have to do with the serial number?
Does anyone know if there’s a picfix for a v7 fat ps2? I have a SCPH-39001 ps2.
Love all your videos Tito! @MachoNachoProductions
hello macho nacho i have a massive favor to ask you. recently ive been looking into the play station X basically the ps2 with a DVR strapped to it which was a japanese exclusive i spent a week researching into the hard drive encryption thing and i figured it out. the only problem i have is ive tried posting my findings twice on 4chan and only got 20 responses in total and i need your help contacting someone in the ps2 modding scene.
while watching one of your videos i believe it was your linux on the ps2 video and i wondered why the ssd did not work with the ps2 i looked into it and found out alot of things. sony basically outsourced like the drives to a bunch of companies and the drives basically contain a couple lines of code that can be found on the drives firmware and not the disc which is why a couple things occur like when using a hard drive the console takes a bit longer to boot and thats why the ssd did not work with the linux disc you had. this explains why a couple people were able to boot up the PSX with the 40gb final fantasy ide drive
theres alot more stuff i want to share with you and i hope you can forward this stuff to someone that knows more than i do
the reason i found out that the special firmware is on the hardrive is because his unit has a dead hard drive which he only has plugged in for the system to boot which basically shuts off after the check at the boot to see if its a legitimate sony drive)
(i just commnted this twice cause the first time was deleted because i think it contained links but ill get straight to the point)
just google "Hard Drive - PS2 Dev Wiki" it should be the first link , scroll all the way down to " Sony custom ATA commands" these are the commands the PS2 and the PSX uses to verify whether the drive is a legit sony drive or not. personally i believe there is a way to trick the system like put it in free mcboot or have something like the picoboot tell the system the drive is legitimate)
this is basically my last ditch attempt to kind of distribute this info cause no one really cares about the PSX system and most people dont think to much about the PS2s hardrive like sony lock thing because we have things like OPL that just bypass it
i may have left a few things out and im sorry about that ive actually typed this up 3 times and im not sure what else to do
Send me a message on discord or Twitter. This info sounds very interesting. Thanks for reaching out 👍
My PS2 is hooked up to my OSSC right now, but it's a Phat PS2 /w a hard drive loaded with games, so i'm not too worried about "using media" at this point. I move the game images across the home network over to it. I just wish it had an HDMI mod.
I'm guessing the issue in this video happens to all PS2's, but this mod is only available for the mentioned models. If I am wrong, please clarify. TIA.
I do not believe this issue affects models other than the ones I mentioned in the video.
I wonder what this also be useful for a debugging test PS2 as I do have the 5000x variant myself.
Great question! Not sure if it will help with debugging. I just know it’ll detect when the mechacon crashes and put the consoles into standby mode
@@MachoNachoProductions I mostly use it as a region free PS2 they can play both original and burnt copies so this mod might actually be helpful.
I believe the debug ps2s don't actually have this problem, this problem occurs only in retail PS2 systems since those are the only ones that have a DSP and bios that check the logos of the discs, debug units only check the region and boot flag of the disc.
Now if only we could get a mod that simple to prevent the CBOMB flaw from killing our PS3s.
(Sony still hasn't fixed it, a couple weekends ago I discovered my battery was dead and I couldn't launch digital games until I changed the battery and reconnected to PSN at least once, just like everyone said)
It's called jailbreak and screw Sony.
I love the PS, PS4, PSP and PS Vita, but Sony screwed all of these systems bar the original over as well as their fans.
Oh man, that’s crazy. I need to check in my ps3
Ps2 replacement lasers are available on eBay for about $15
Yes, you can definitely replace the laser if it burns out
So what if you don’t use the dvd drive and just play backups off hdd or Eth to USB adapter? Still bricks it or nah?
It doesn't actually brick it, the problem is that when the Mechacon crashes it over volts the laser in the DVD drive. If you're not using discs this isn't going to happen.
This flaw damages only the laser in the DVD drive, anyone saying that it bricks your entire system is spreading misinformation.
You should be okay 👍
it's uncanny that this video comes out right after I tried hooking up my ps2 only to find out it can't read any discs anymore lol
I have to check mine which Version it is but it's a fat one. Actually this one was probably the most used console I ever got in my hands- the amount of dust and the worn out to broken controls were a sign. Now restored, I hope mine is a keeper😂
In My 90k1 the glue on the flex cable from the lenses failed and the cable got higher than the lenses damaging some games.
I only noticed that after the 5th game.
I started playing some older classics and the game after a while stopped working, and I kept trying, only to see that the cable rubbing against the disc were damaging the discs.
Oh man, that sounds like a nightmare! Seems like and design flaw. What was holding down the ribbon before you glued it?
@@MachoNachoProductions the OEM double sided tape. The console was from 2009, and the tropical climate of Brazil, well, kinda foreseeable.
But I stoped using optical media on it and fitted with an external HDD and freemcboot
No idea if this was the reason why, but my slim PS2 only lived about 6 months and stopped reading discs. I had younger siblings and they tended to leave games laying around so I wouldn't be surprised if it was from a scratched one. I wish I knew about this then. I was like 10, so I wouldn't have been soldering for a few more years even if the mod existed then, but just knowing a beat up disc could do this would have been nice.
So I have a launch day PS2 ( yes a fatty that still works perfectly) your video says V9 through V12 are the ones affected by the issue, do you know if launch day versions have same issue.
I think you should be good 👍
@@MachoNachoProductions thanks was pretty sure based on this video but figured it didn't hurt to ask
V4 and earlier have older lasers
Mine died a long time ago... Before the ps3 was released.
Might pick up the SD card to memory card adapter
The mx4sio/MC2SIO is a really great alternative to playing games from the dvd drive or hdd. Definitely recommend 👍
My PS2 is a 3900X model with a MODBO 4.0 chip installed in it. I don't put anything into the dvd drive exvept real NTSC-J and NTSC PS1/PS2 games. Am I ok?
Honestly speaking...I'd recommend getting a SATA adapter, a FreeMcBoot memory card, and a compatible hard drive. Load it up with PS2 isos and play directly off the HDD. Also, you can play PS1 bin/cue files off a flash drive with this method.
No more dealing with aging, failing optical drives.
That is what I did with my PS2 with a non working DVD drive.
Hey Tito, if I have a 5001 system is it at risk as well? Thanks
Depends. Is your console modded and do you play burned backup copies of games? Do your authentic games have heavy scratches? If you answered no to both of these the risk is low.