The Story of Fahrenheit
Vložit
- čas přidán 27. 11. 2016
- Same video as on Veritasium, except not animated. Better or worse? Let me know in comments.
Snatoms are available again: www.snatoms.com
Support Veritasium on Patreon: bit.ly/VePatreon
Animated version: • What the Fahrenheit?!
Original video about Celsius: bit.ly/VeCelsius
I prefer the casual style of this video. It's like you're talking directly to us, which makes it feel intimate. I also like seeing the city you're in (Amsterdam, right?) and your handsome face. But the animations in the other video do make the actual topic somewhat easier to understand. Perhaps a mixture of the two would be best, basically this video interspersed with occasional graphics to demonstrate the important points. No music either; it's a bit distracting. I guess the animation is better for drawing in new viewers though. Whatever you decide, I'll keep watching. :)
thanks for the feedback!
+
Can you tell which city are you in?
+
Arun Kumar the Netherlands, Amsterdam
I think it's easier to concentrate on the animated version. Easier to absorb the information watching the same thing twice, either way...
Yeah agreed. The animated version is much better. Cleaner audio quality, too.
Not to say that your comment is not "correct", but there are things that can be done in post to make everything better.
Yeah, I felt the same way mostly but also proud I could tell the whole story off the top of my head I've been working on this topic for so long.
I was pretty impressed with how similar the two were - don't think i could do all that in one go like that
SO you went through the streets and sudenly thought "oh wait I know the story by heart, let's make a vlog about it!"
Holy shit I blindly walked past Veritasium... I can't believe I missed him.
Why the fuck do people use Fahrenheit?
Celsius and Kelvin all the way.
Because when i want to be comfortable in my home I raise the temperature from 68 degrees to 70 degrees not 20 to 21.111
Mike Rotchitchez just rise to 21... it's almost the same
Mike Rotchitchez that's aside from questioning the reliability of your air conditioner. personally I'm more interested in knowing how close the hot water I'm showering with is to boiling. :)
are you aware that your body is not able to sense this difference?
fischX not the point. it's mostly just that 0-100 correspond to comfortable temperatures for living as 0-100 correspond to freezing and boiling of water in °C.
Generally, when you do this in reality, you split up how it feels into groups of 5 or 10.
I did watch both videos, and while I feel the animated version is better at getting the point across from an educational standpoint, this version felt more like a conversation; it felt as though we were engaged in a discussion. Because of this, this video triggered different thoughts and opinions in my own mind, furthering my understanding. Over all, i found both to be captivating and enjoyable, and would like to thank you, Derek, for continuing to create fun, interesting, and educational content like this. :)
Let's just use Kelvin.
let's just use Plank temperature
Shoulders of Giants Rankine needs love too :'(
Every scale we use is arbitrary,but indeed we use kelvin for science and celsius for home use.At least those have the same scale :D
all those people turn around as they pass him, unlike in other cities
turbominator some even made fun of him :/
All one take in a tracking shot. Nice.
I find it much easier to remember and concentrate in the animated version and not get distracted by your surroundings. But amazing job for remembering it all so well and being able to tell it over in such a clear manner!
I actually greatly preferred having both available- I watched the animated one first and felt that I could absorb it more readily (for example, the excellent cube on a cube illustration of mercury expanding). Having watched that I enjoyed watching this one as well.
I just can't stop noticing all the people starring at Mr. Muller
I love both videos. In one you can concentrate easier, because its animated and you can see all the info. But in the other hand, watching you in your city is fantastic. You can tell a story without interruptions, and that's fantastic! Keep the good work!!
I love your live action videos more! Animated videos are pretty common on CZcams but your live action ones really stand out.. The surroundings you walk around give a good feel and vibe along with the information you are telling. These videos really stand out among the many science channels. Please continue making live actions videos along with animated. :)
I liked both videos
this one is particularly nice because you did it all in one take, almost like you're rehearsing (what you said in both videos is almost exactly the same) and this brings warmth to the way it's being presented. As if you're story telling.
Visuals on the other video make it seem more scientific rather than a story, it also helps a bit to stay focused and not sidetracked by thoughts (or pedestrians in this video).
Hi Derek. As a long time viewer, I enjoy both versions. In general I think the animated video is more approachable to an outsider and thus better introduction content. The first person camera has an amazing intimacy for a subscriber, and you can convey much more subtle / precise ideas, which add a lot of value for me. Overall, I think the two channel approach is great, especially when each is optimized for its purpose. Best, --A
i think the animated version is better for people unfamiliar with science, it feels almost like it it is aimed at children. the animations demonstrate what your saying exactly and leave no room for the viewer's mind to further think on the topic, you force the viewer to think and interpret the words in only one way. that being said i like the vlog style better because it doesn't feel like im being talked down to, like we are having a conversation. it allows me to explore what you are saying in my imagination and i can bring my own understanding to the subject. the visuals have nothing to do with the topic and frees the brain to only concentrate on one input, sound, your words.
Hey, I watched this and the animated version too. I liked the animations, because they were funny, and demonstrated concepts well. I also liked this one because I found it interesting watching the reactions of people looking at you as you talked into your camera. :)
As someone with attention disorder - I liked animated version more. It kept me more focused what you were talking about.
Of course this time it was also easier to focus because I knew most of the story you told.
This was kinda easy story to follow so casual way isn't too bad.. Like when you told that war plane example in other casual video. When things get more complicated the animation is the better way.
Also I like when you casually just talk to us like one of those really good school teachers.
why does everybody stare at you? xD
Fuzzy Ideology maybe because he's walking in the street talking to a camera....?
what, the crazy man wandering around talking to himself? I can't think of a reason... :P
Is someone vloging himself that uncommon in Amsterdam?
Fuzzy Ideology I've never seen it happen. Even if it was common, people will stare
not a clue, but I'd definitely have a look and see what's going on if I came across the same thing in the UK
I watched both and enjoyed this one more. When I pass it along to others, I'll send the link to the animated one. Visuals are helpful in many ways. But as a long time fan, I enjoyed the scenery and the thoughts of your lifestyle that this video evoked. And perhaps most of all, I was impressed by your delivery of the whole lesson, presumably without a prompter or cue cards. I know its just six minutes, but still. There was no hesitation, shuffling of the order, misquoting of dates, etc. Maybe you had at least an outline in your right hand with the camera. Yeah, that would make me feel a little better! :-)
Thanks for the update on Snatoms! On my way...
Thanks Derek. I enjoyed both, but for me the non-animated one is best; It's more personal and more real-world, especially if you're gone through all the trouble, cost and extent to travel to a location pertinent to the topic. Additionally, the location shots are highly interesting and culturally informative even though it's "background". A cool snapshot of "a moment in the life of...". Further, there are so many animated videos that, to me, they seem get lost among each other. I do however appreciate the animations created for the previous videos on fields. Those, to me help convey more useful information about the topic.
The animated one is better for educational purposes. However, I've come to love your walking vlogs where you seem like you're telling an interesting story while in the middle of a casual walk. So which is better? Well, it depends on the situation.
I like both of your channels. It seems to me that for topics where you tell a story or speculate on things, the "walking" style suits better. When you explain things, graphics help a lot, making things easier to understand. On this topic, when you told about expanding mercury, it was easier to understand with graphics, but overall I liked the Amsterdam version most, although both are great. (Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker)
Personally I love that you can tell the whole story while walking around. It's also more fun in my opinion, and, like other people have said, it is certainly more intimate and conversational.
Oddly enough I prefer this version of the video. There are aspects of both videos that are great so I think a combination would be the best of both worlds. I would personally have the video be mainly walking and talking inter cut with small animations to help further understanding of difficult concepts. I like the causal and relaxing video of the walking video in contrast to the animated one.
I preffer the non-animated versions. What I love about your videos is that they don't go over what is realy needed for the undestanding of the viewer. Also, watch you walking is quite relaxing
Hey Derek, I enjoyed both. If you did 2 versions in the future I would still watch both.
This is SO MUCH better
I definitely liked this style better. I think the way you presented the topic fits better with the other videos you have done in this style than the videos on your main channel.
I watched this first, and am now making my way through the animated one. Already a minute in I feel like this off the cuff version conveys more of the minutia surrounding each point in the story, projecting a broader picture - giving my mind hooks to grab on to which lets me follow along a lot more easily in the story. I have always preferred teachers to books, I feel like text - even if it's read out loud - can't convey thoughts and ideas as well as intonation, tangents, body language and other subtleties of speech and conversation can.
We need a third - blazed out of his mind - version of this tale.
I just got hyped on this vid because I've been in Amsterdam for the past three weeks and recognized where you were immediately =P
Both videos are great. The animation was something different. Except I forgot I was watching a Veritasium video and was surprised when I saw you pop up in the outro. I prefer this version, but would not be opposed to a hybrid of the two.
Both vids are awesome and enjoyable... both visually appealing!
I really enjoy the 2veritasium walk-and-talk videos for their (somewhat) rambling philosophizing, but for a topic like this, I think a more tightly edited, soundtracked video with graphics and stuff is better.
check his main channel!
The editing, little jokes in the visuals and extra information in the animated video was helpful to stay focused and absorb the information better. But the rhythm of speech in this video also helped in absorbing the info, whereas the animation in the other one made it possible to pack more words per minute of video. I also liked looking at the surroundings of the place that you were walking through when you were speaking.
Basically, both styles would work for me. The animated one felt a little like CGP Grey's videos, since he does fast-talking animated videos, but for both, they were interesting.
The subject of this video is complimented by the animation. I think when you are doing your more stream of thought videos like the learned helplessness this walking around style fits much better since animating would be difficult/ distracting.
Ok so I'm about a minute in is this the same as the cartoon but with him walking and talking to the camera?
Jimmy M yes. Description
I actually really enjoyed seeing both videos. I don't really have one that I prefer, but I reckon the first one will be taken more seriously. You can see there was put a lot of effort in it, not only the visuals but you also recognize the fact you had to find lots of information to make it. This video (without the first one) might seem like you're just walking around and happened to discus about something that was in your mind.
Anyway, very interesting videos!
Also, if you read this, how is your "policy" on people approaching you? I know that if I see Grey I will just have to pretend to not have seen him and continue with my life, Brady I can maybe talk with if he has the time, at least shake his hand and tell him I appreciate his work, but I'm not sure about you. As you're in my country now, this question just hit me. :)
Though the animated version is a bit easier to listen to, there is something really comforting about watching this video and you speaking with no interruption about the history and the science behind the scale. It's like you know everything, Derek.
I like these walk n' talk videos more, especially when you are walking in somewhere that adds context to the video, for example "The survivor bias" video in the old Japanese town.
I like the animated version better. Not necessarily for the animation, but the audio is way better to listen to.
I watched both, and while I normally almost prefer these casual walking videos, I actually found the animated version easier to follow and understand. I found it much easier to absorb and I could probably teach what I learned to others. Not in FULL detail of course, but I could probably teach more of what I learned from the animated version than from this non-animated version because I have visuals that went along with everything. With this walking video, I have distractions due to all of the interesting things to look at.
So I think that these more casual walking videos should be reserved for when you're just kinda speaking from the heart and the animated stuff like the video on your main channel should be reserved for when you have something prepared. When you're speaking more from the heart, I don't find the stuff around you to be distracting. Instead, I can find myself looking at the things around you while my mind is totally focused on what you're saying. With this particular video though, it was a prepared lesson and so I think these are best with some sort of visual aids like in the animated version.
Hey Derek. I love this one more than the animated one, but I think the animated one is better simply because things are easier to grasp through your way (animators way) of representing it. But please keep doing both!
TL;DW: For every degree Farenheit increased, mercury in a termometer increases its volume by 1 part in 10,000.
I liked both, seeing you walk through Amsterdam (So close to home) made the video 1000x beteer
Either way is great Derek, just keep 'em coming! xD
Perhaps go from one to another at times for a change?
Anyways, curious as to how many takes it... takes to get it. Many people stopping you in the street while you are doing your thing?
Best style! This is the Veritasium that I love!
I like the animated version more because it's easier to follow the story that you're telling. But I also like watching you walk through the streets I also do everyday lol.
I think that the animated video is better, because is more entertain and the ideas are easier to follow. Thank you for being so curious and for doing this grate videos.
5:14 - 5:17 A slip of the tongue I hope? The record in Finland is -51,1C (-60F) And -31C (-24F) is normal in January and February...
haha, most parts of Europe.
This style seems more fitting for the theme of 2veritasium ... the videos that are more commentary and opinion, rather than the teaching-themed videos on the veritasium channel. I prefer the way you traditionally have presented things on that channel, but not so much the animated technique of the last video. I have always thought that your greatest videos were the ones where you are interacting with people while teaching science concepts. Those are gold, and relatable!
The visualisation of the animated video makes understanding easier, although this style does hold attention better I think and I also like the more personal, up close approach here
So America uses a scale that was invented by a guy who just was bored one day and liked to think positive..
I believe that the animated version of this video is more concise and comprehensible, however this video (on 2veritasium) is more accustomed to the way you usually do videos and is one of the reasons I like watching your videos in the first place.
Pretty impressive that you got essentially all of the same material into this video as the other in 1 take!!
wow! you're good at this one-take stuff!
I found the animated version better for the topic as it providing relevant visual information to engage with, which helps memory recall. It's also the type of thing that lends itself to use in an educational environment. I hope to see more colabs with Marcello. The walking around style I believe better suits an opinion piece as it simulates a conversation, even though it's one sided.
I find it interesting to learn about how people just "invented" a measuring system. How many competing measuring systems were there? how did that confuse the scientific literature? Did different scientific groups ever "fight" over this? (ie: geologists vs entomologists)
I would show the animated video to my teacher/parents ecc this video I watch it for myself since it looks more raw. I like this one better but the animated one is better for the future of your channel =)
Living near Amsterdam, I could have met you... and oh my had I been starstruck. Hehe. Thanks for this episode. Nice!
both videos were pretty good, as long as the main idea of the video is clearly delivered , i think any video is great!
At first I was actually going to click the Replay button after I've watched this video just because I was too busy noticing everything in the background and couldn't concentrate on the topic, but then I read the annotation at the end and went to watch the animated version. I think this version might be better if the goal is to make your viewers spend more time watching/re-watching your video, while the animated version was a lot easier to comprehend. Either way, an interesting and informative video, as usual!
The Animated version is easier for various reasons, one of them being cleaner sound (which makes listening to it almost effortless and there is no strain, like trying to focus on the sound of a voice while ignoring the sounds from the environment, which we are good at but still it puts some strain) another one is the idea of cartoons and animation which makes is that much easier to digest since we have grown up with cartoons and it has a certain element in it an element that makes you enjoy it more. So in sort, one is more human like (most people can relate to it as it is everyday like) while the other one is trimmed and neat. One presents a more down to earth scientist that looks approachable while the other ones gives the idea of a more serious and respected scientist and quality work (as ideas are easier presentable with animations much like the TED ed videos) also let's not forget that in this video the viewer can feel like having a conversation with you while the other one lacks a "face".
Finally a video here!
I like the animation. Your walking around videos are better when editorials / opinion.
I personally like this one better. Despite my deep and abiding love of Minute Physics and CGP Grey, and my absolute agreement that animation is fantastic for presenting certain concepts (as it's used in Crash Course videos, for example), I'm not typically a huge fan of fully animated videos. Having said that, though, I'd watch anything you put out, so you do you, man. :-)
Curiously, I recently started a physics channel with a similar format to this video. It's in Spanish, so you probably won't understand much, but I'm happy to see someone whose content I really enjoy give a try to ideas similar to mine. :)
+
I prefer watching this video. However, in terms of understanding the information you describe, the animated version is much easier to absorb! Both great videos!
If you have the boiling point of water, the freezing point of water and human body temperature as fixed integer points on your scale, how free are you even to _choose_ a meaningful zero point?
Penny Lane you aren't. a line is defined by 2 points and a scale on it by the third
Sinom Well yes, that was my point.
Yeah ... But why not make the boiling point of watter , the frezing point of water OR the human body temperature
the zero point ?
Because, 0 is the starter number.
I think there already is a really good solution.
For scientific use there's the Kelvin scale. 0°K is the physically coldest possible temperature.
For daily use there's the Celsius scale. It's used in most of the world and 0°C matches the freezing point of water (at a specific altitude) and 100°C matches the boiling point of water (at a specific altitude, too).
Of course it's arbitrary. Like all our measurement units. It's a question of how easy you can convert between them.
@gimbar Exactly. Everything is arbitrary. Setting the freezing point of water at 0 degrees is literally *just* as arbitrary if you step back and analyze it.
I prefer this kind of videos than the animated ones. These are original. Animated videos are all over CZcams. Plus, you walk in such beautiful places.
I like this one better, there's so many animated educational videos on youtube, then can just blend together. adding a element of humanity to the videos allows deeper concentration. maybe best of both worlds by putting the scale info graphic over this video?
excellent research man
I loved the animation
I prefer this version, to the animated one. Maybe that's just down to familiarity, or maybe I it's just that I really enjoy these walk and talk videos. interesting topic either way.
Definitely prefer this video. It's more personal, and represents more practice and evolution in the style you've employed for the rest of this channel (as the suggested videos on the side show). Now, are you going to quiz me on my comprehension of the material? ;)
im a fan of minute physics and enjoy the animation including the little "humorous" bits. As a visual learner it helps to show pieces of info for example the map part of the story
rem -loosing my religion - (playing at the last 1/4 of this video)
--i like this version, no audible ad at the end, and i like watching people speak - it registers with my mind better
Really like the vlogging style version!
In terms of educational purpose, animated version is better because it can highlight the key terms. But the walk-and-talk version really gives me the scenery of some countries which I may never visit in my whole live.
I prefer the animated one as I want to learn some science from your channel. I still enjoy the walk-and-talk one. I think that you may use the walk-and-talk style when you want to speak about your thoughts, feelings or casual ideas.
IMO, live action walking videos of you work best for your off-the-cuff opinion pieces because they are the most personal. These need the most passion from you or I quickly get distracted by the moving background. The live action standing/studio shots of you work best for explaining nuggets of how things work or the history of things. These feel more like an objective lecture on non-controversial topics, but can also provide emphasis within a more heavily edited video when spliced in-between animated sequences or live action clips of others. And finally, I think that these animated videos are best at explaining the most complicated topics because they are a focused series of drawings. They are also the easiest way to add more humor to your videos. Great videos. Keep experimenting.
I was in that part of Amsterdam just this September, my hotel was really close.
Wow! You did all of it in one shot? That's impressive.
I thought the animated one was a little odd just because of the fact that it's not your usual style, but I still enjoyed it. I like these walking vlogs much more but I think they are more the style of your second channel
This is a casual video with heave content. I find all the scenery to be distracting to watch while listening to what I'm actually interested in.
But great videos in general. I have short attention span than average person.
I think you've found out animated is better XD congrats on trending, it reminds me of your viral video video lol
The question is hard. Having seen the animated version first, I think that I caught the information better with it, then the repeat on a more informal way was a very good nailing of the knowledge. I'm not at all sure I would have recalled more by inverting the order.
So for educative purpose, the animated was better, but for edutainment, I would prefer the second one.
For most of the animated video, I don't feel that the animation added much of concrete value. However, it did help when you spoke of dividing the scale in half, half again, and half again. Visually seeing it animated helped. But I also feel that one human talking to another has a powerful effect on teaching. The best videos combine the two, using animation (sparingly) to illustrate a concept that is better communicated visually than verbally, but relying on eye contact and gestures for most of the explanation.
I think animation or your standard talking head + animated or live visuals is a better style for the more sciencey videos. The "walking through a place" style works great for your "thoughts on a thing" videos, and works decently well for this video, since the subject is more of a story and not very technical.
both of your videos are excellent, this is better for higher level educators the animated I believe is suited for teaching younger students
YOU WERE IN AMSTERDAM? DUDE I LIVE THERE
Y u no tell me
He called me. Maybe wrong person?
I enjoyed both. I watched the animated version first, but like the off-the-cuff feel of this video too.
Are you still in Amsterdam?
+
At least in this video he is, looks exactly a like.
nope :( I'll be in Stockholm next week though
awh man the first 10 seconds I already recognised you were in the Netherlands... Would've done anything to meet you!
What's happening here?
Derek, have you ever been to Hong Kong? I hope to see you walk around my home city and tell your fascinating stories.
This videos always seem so short. I want more. Mnmh.
I really liked the animated version, it was really different and much easier to listen to without the usual background noise. Still, pretty interesting!
Odd but I liked the vlog approach more then the animated one. I found it less distracting and easier to concentrate on the information. I find myself more involved because I have to do the work to make sure that I follow you (perhaps in general but definitely as a non-native speaker). Would be interesting though if the preferences would correspond with a better intake (thinking of your disseration).
im much prefer this to the totally animated one. it felt more you your original stuff was awesome with you on the streets talking asking questions to people interatcting. i miss it. any channel does animated but this has character. but in saying this a little pop up animation down the bottom would be nice to visualize would be nice.
Perhaps the unit was changed as a means of adaptability considering that the temperature of the human body and it's freezing point seem to be different everywhere; maybe they calculated somewhat of an average or a best fitted zero point for use on a global scale.
Even if I like this format, I'm realizing that even though I've seen the animated one, I have a hard time following you in this one. I phase out easily, it all becomes noise at some point, it requires a lot of effort on my part to concentrate on what you say. I guess it explains why I had such a hard time in science classes - without pictures, my brain just goes lalala... (but I'm good with philosophy though, so all your walky-talky about bias and things are ok for me)