Conversations with History: Amy Chua
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- In a discussion with host Harry Kreisler, Yale University Law School Professor Amy Chua analyzes the vortex of ethnic hatred generated by the unrestrained export of markets and democracy to the underdeveloped world. Series: "Conversations with History" [8/2004] [Public Affairs] [Humanities] [Show ID: 8639]
Amy Chua is brilliant. What she presents may make us uncomfortable, but do we want a blurred vision of what's happening in the world of politics? This video was made before the "Tiger Mom" controversy. Indeed, she is also attractive....I guess that's too much for some guys to handle, judging from the comments!
Mike Wahl This is true.
What a woman! . I listened to everything she said. Such a fast talker too. He asked good questions also.
Hmmm... I got into MIT and am going to Stanford Business School. My father is a 1st generation immigrant from India. But I seem to have broken all of Dr. Chua's rules- I had playdates, sleepovers, was in many school plays, played the drums (not the piano or violin), complained a decent amount (always had to argue my case - I think this was a good thing), and I am now an aspiring entrepreneur and nearly won the Rhodes.
Do we need to be strict? No. Children can be driven regardless.
I like this women. She doesn't worry about political correctness in her discussions of parenting or her scholarship. Her intellectual honesty is refreshing. It's too bad that it took media attention of her less important , albeit fascinating, parenting book to help me discover this much more weighty work and its serious implications for our country and the world. This is the book I am going to load on to my Kindle.
Amy Chua is a freakin' BOSS. Her pattern interpretation of minority market dominance within democracy with a poorer majority population is really interesting and I didn't realize that the ethnic patterns throughout history. Perceptive and thoughtful way to transcend conventional economics in SE Asia with over-night democratization.
Excellent speech and analysis!
This woman is phenomenal. I admire her.
Professor Chua's discussion was fascinating! I had no idea of the market dominance of minorities in Non-Western Countries. The Chinese are a tiny minority of the population in The Philippines (only 1 percent). But they control at least 60 percent of the Private Economy, (4 Major Airlines, Banks, all Conglomerates). No wonder they're hated by the indigenous majority in the country. I guess regardless of race, people just won't be decent to each other, when it comes to the agreement called money!
So smart and strong. bold, out spoken... not for the ignorants, close mind, and hicks, and Asian men who feel threaten. Go girl.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS How wonderful. You have been to more country than moi. Congratulation and I hope you were able to learned something from each country and each culture.
Wow, Very insightful! She is a great thinker.
As a Venezuelan interested in the subject I was positively surprised to hear her theory and I think it should be studied seriously. Thank you Amy
13 years After i am watching this vedio😊😍
@Lampheader I read it and it reminded me that when I was in school, all the Chinese students were top notch and very intelligent and had the best grades in math and science.
The Chinese culture put a lot of importance in a strong education and getting good grades. It does not surprise that their economy is doing so well.
Yet in America we also value creativity, innovation and the individual that is self made like Oprah, Obama, Bill Gate and others.
wow...that is soooooooooo true.....I am glad she wrote a book about it!!
what a smart woman. love love love some of her ideas.
thank you
@llHyRaXll Congratulations, you're some person who displays superiority through racial insults, misspelled words, and capital letters. I'm really glad that you've taken the time to examine the complex social and filial context for her parenting methods, for taking the time to understand what her motivation truly is, and for taking the time to truly enlighten the rest of the world through your CZcams comments. People like you truly give me faith in the world. You can even tell tell the future!
@psxpro5 , It is live up to individual standard. She has a right to infuse her principle to her children; once they grow up they will justify what is wrong and right. Not just successful life, it is ultimate happiness for their children.
@yl358 i was talking about american inner city public schools not China's sorry for the misunderstanding
@TheTroll342 My classmate is half Japanese, half Black and her parents are professors. What do you say to that?
When was this video shot?
wow Ms. Chua is an enlightened person. enlightened in the sense that i feel her want for better social justice, fairness, and those are important forces of a society, right? Lets go beyond market capitalism and social democracy, is there a one size fits all? I like black, you like brown, we happen to live in the same neighbor so what gives, the power of money, tradition, or our acceptance of others preferences. if we are not physically harmed how about we continue looking at our art but take a quick minute to look at theirs, there has to be a bridge that allows for slow and hard earned/learned comprise/enlightment. Mi casa es su casa, right?
@LilAngelNana My most basic point is that children or young teens should not be bullied into to success, they should be incentivized and encouraged because it's in their own self-interest, not because it makes their parents look good.
@Yoda74500 Thanks for the information. I was referring to my experience with Chinese students in the US.
Is the rate of suicide in China for university student is as high as Japan?
What was the percentage of your students that get As in China?
Such a BRILLIANT woman...
The reason to being strict is to earn more glory and money. While most don't understand that rich and famous will forever never come from straight worker.
Extremely brilliant lady. She speaks very well. What's with all these hater??
American still having hard time to accept highly educated truth speaking Asian women yet???
Truth hurts too much
ppl please stop saying those rude things to her! she's just a mother and she doesn't deserve that!!
this woman, must live. she is necessary to speak out her mind, she just tells the truth and makes sense.
@Yoda74500 Thanks for the information. I have never being too China and one day I do plan to visit, but both in my academic and professional life the Chinese I've personally dealt with were almost always very intelligent and top notch, particularly in math & science.
But I guest in China the pool is so much bigger and the balance is more realistic compare to the smaller pool in the Chinese community in the US. They community is indeed very close.
similar thing happened to chinese in indonesia and malaysia as well..
Amy just like my mothers parenting in my childhood. harsh but full with love.
I was sort of shit student when i was in china, i became elite one after came to New Zealand(even I didnt use my brain to study at all). To be honest I found out the most western students are more creative and more innovative than chinese students in school but chinese students had better carrers in general after uni. Im not judge which educaton systerm is better, but good parenting is very very very important.
@iSuperNovaX70 umm...china's innercity schools don't have metal detectors either
Holy crap, is this intro music from 1969? Damn, budget cuts must be hitting hard.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Yes indeed. I read her controversial WSJ article. She is America, she was born in Illinois to Chinese parents.
Having said that, I agree with you the way the Chinese raise their children is a different method than we do here in America, but I am not the one to decide which method is better. It is just a reflection of a different culture, class and history.
In addition, if you look at the Chinese students test scores in SAT, their methods have worked for them, so why change.
yup it is, pls ignore the ignorant person who said that, the Chinese government in China has very capable leaders, and have a really good system going along with good planning, and forward thinking, + alot of human resources, that is their real power, not superior intelligence, when you can dip into a pool of over 250000 technicians, engineers, every year like that, you are in pretty good shape.
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Isn't Amy Chua the woman that said "Jews are the quintessential of a dominant minority"?
@BLACKCARGORECORDS It was a pleasure talking to you and I wish you the best.
My final thought: Dare to dream my friend.
@Platyzoan I get it now. I was kind of shocked to hear her say that. I thought it was kind of a telling comment and a bit derogotive. She seems to be a proud elitist who might cringe at the idea of being stuck with people who have to resort to things that are very "public". I had not made my opinion of her, but this helped. Thanks Platyzoan.
@LilAngelNana No, the reward is the product of the task... When I go to the gym, the reward is not moving my arms back and forth, the reward is bigger muscles.
@equitywolf Not all public schools are equally accessible. By "very public," she probably simply means one that was not in an ultra-affluent area. Schools in very affluent areas end up having as much exclusivity as expensive private schools.
@IFYOUREPLYYOUL0SE
Who's Amy Chow?
@LilAngelNana I never talked about sports cars for getting into harvard, I'm talking about small things, the idea is to make a child value learning and achievement... We're talking about very young children here, when children get older obviously it's different... and I'm not saying rewards have to be material.
@AnniexRinnegan "Have you seen homeless people on the streets that are Asian?" - Totally agree with this statement.
In her book "World on Fire', she doesn't seem to understand that the success of 'market dominant minorities' is mainly due to their focus on mercantilism and trust relationships among each other, as well as making capital available only amongst themselves, and not the host country locals.
@Sivels rewards for specific challenging tasks..
the intro music sounds like something from a turn based rpg from the 90s
@takadi A friend of my friend overheard him saying it while Yudoff was drunk.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS I spelled god with a small g, not a capital G. This is simply to show the power of education.
I am not religious and do not attend church, but do believe in a higher power.
@MicrowavedHamster Just so you know everybody here is an immigrant. We just didn't have social systems waiting for people on arrival. Also, anybody from here knows that being a jew in north america is not a curse it's a blessing.
@bearywine Very good.
Say what you want, but this is a very smart woman.
@jill198751 You missed her point here. She is not suggesting that the elite Chinese should just open their bank accounts and give the poorer majority group their cash.
She means doing so the American way, by opening foundations, Venture Capital and private investment to the rest of the majority group.
And of course through education by providing scholarships to extremely intelligent local students.
Is that simple and go well with the local.
#AmyChua #YouAreHired! #InfiniteFreedomFoundations
but think of what Amy Chua said about becoming a "team player." they do sacrifice a lot to be at where they are, but it's an undeniable fact that they are an ethnic minority. giving back to the majority of the population of a country that allowed you to become successful isn't such a bad idea, especially when you see the anger the poor majority have at the rich minority.
Thomas Sowell has written about the hated "market dominant minorities", and their fate has always been tragic.
what is a "very" public school?
@shirusubemonaku my comment was a response to another comment. No need to be related to the video's topic.
that was great// tx
Amy Chua is right on! As Americans we are going to call her horrible names, try to destroy her reputation, try to pick apart all that is wrong with the philosophy of her book, and we will even call her crazy!! But in the end Chinese kids will STILL out perform American kids!! AMERICA!!! STOP LIVING IN DENIAL!!!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS This shall never come to pass with a good education. A few textbook examples: The president of the US is Black, the CEO of AmericanExpress is Black, the richest self-made woman in America is Black.
With a good education, hard work and a determination to make it like Jay-Z, anything is possible.
You're lucky to be living in a country that gives you unlimited opportunities. People in Haiti would love to switch place with you for a chance.
America is a great country.
she is smart in some sense but she is more bold to speak out the truth.
@llHyRaXll Have you even read the book.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS. I agree with you that for the American culture it would not work. She is a respected scholar and intellectual and part of her job is to write cultural/historical books and I think this is her third book.
In the not too long future we will all be competing for jobs with people in China, India, Brazil etc.... the reason why is because the world has become so global and technologically connected because of the internet.
Chinese, like Black and white comes in all characters.
@mylinho they are both actually happy children, with her relaxing her stance on the rebellious second child. they stuck with her when she was criticized, with her eldest writing in to the media. and i'm no grammar nazi, but for someone who's criticizing parenting you have really bad spelling (or are drunk)
@eviler12 well said.
@yippee2000 I see where you 're coming from with that and indeed I have seen Asian women with men from different races: White, Black, Indian etc...
But when you go to any major city in the world: New York, Paris, London etc... You will notice a lot of different women with men of different races from themselves.
It is the globalization of coupling.
I agree with "chaotaoquan" that the political system in China is actually functioning very well and that China has great leaders. I am from mainland China and I do think in this way. China is one of the origins of human civilization, which is undeniable. Perpahs it is about "intelligence", perhaps it is about the command of "reason" . This is more an Anthorpoligical than an political issue.
@md991free You've been to Manhattan many times so that means you know the 'trends' here/ Yes NYC is probably THE most racially diverse on the planet, which makes my point all the stronger. We should be seeing a wider range of I/R relationships in NYC, but we do not. Just like the rest of the world, it's the same tired racial stereotypes being played out. AF/WM relationships are without question the most common here. NYC may be diverse but that doesn't mean we don't fall for stereotypes.
@FortitudeOfHeaven With my mom it was "GD lazy drones" and everything was "Oh look another half-assed job".
I was trained to the the tune of the belt. but I learned respect, politeness, and at 6' 3 275LBS I learned not to let the skills I learned in Japan as a kid and on the wrestling mat get me thrown in jail for assault, because I also inherited a bad temper from my Bear-shirt (pronounced Berserk) wearing ancestors.
That's the way you must raise the army, but children.
She is totally wonderful and what a superb educational pedigree. Cal anyone think of a workable pickup line if she were drinking alone at an elegant bar.
Ask her husband Jed Rubenfeld.
@llHyRaXll Where did she say she's communist.
Amy is super
she is a jewish puppet
her husband is a jewish
henry chi
hahahaha. Can't say i am surprised. Thanks for the info.
@drbayoms I am white guy who has married a Chinese woman and lived in her country (ROC). I write from experience. Before meeting me. my wife turned down two proposals from Chinese men because of the propspect of becoming a Chinese daughter-in-law. Her brothers' wives are tortured by her mother who, like all Chinese mothers-in-law, believes it's her duty to teach her sons' wives to be good wives and mothers. I am not saying this is the only reason for out-marriage but it's a big one.
@kjcdpm You'd understand that the Hokkien and Taiwanese is basically the same.
@llHyRaXll oh cool.... nice attitude., down-to-earth & humble!! Does ur teacher grade you in terms of Humility? oh well, doesn't matter, u dont study anyway!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You need to read an autobiography of: Martin Luther King
I wish you the best luck in your life and may you find the peace you seek.
I don't know why there are so many hateful words here. Have some of the most racist guys here ever bothered to listen to this conversation? Her parenting skill aside, her insight into ethnic minority and democracy vs. capitalism is very inspiring and intelligent.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You can create your own future. This is America, you can follow your own dream.
Stop talking about it, just make happen. Anything is possible. Dare to dream, dare to make it happen. In America we do not like people to complain, we like people that are doers of great things like Oprah, Jay-Z, Dr. Marthin Luther King, Malcolm X, Rosa Park and many others.
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@Sivels If I'm putting words in your mouth, I apologize..
Ethnic minority can control such a large portion of the economy...thanks to 1)Cultural moral on education, 2)Human networks, 3)Capital from their original countries.
with control and power come responsibility, right? with it, this happens, without it, that happens.
Beautiful woman. So smart
I like her! I have her name! Yay!
@simmervet Hokkien is just one dialect of Chinese. BTW.
In 2012, I resolve to let the kids have playdates, for goodness' sake.
@turnbacktime Many American-born Chinese are very culturally Chinese. Certainly among the 2nd generation, this is so. Their parents definitely have the expectation to be treated with the same deference that they'd receive in the old country. Chinese people are Chinese no matter where they are. Did you know Chinese refer to non-Chinese people as "foreigner" (外國人) no matter where they are? So when in the USA, they are still Chinese and the white Americans are foreigners, 外國人.
As a fan of privatization, she doesn't give a very glowing endorsement.
@1sapara She is not, she is the author of two books that were well written and one of them was a bestseller.
Her academic pedigrees is a proof of her intelligent.
However, I can think of a former Vice Presidential candidate that fits well with your statement.
there are many reasons that the ethnic minorities dominate in some societies.. some groups achieved that by military force, like invasions. but some groups, like Chinese... they just work much much harder, they are more intelligent.. .. So, I think their dominance is entirely justified.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Any race can succeed through education and in the US we have plenty of example of that
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Not true. Ivy League entrance is mostly about grades, test scores, volunteer work and other extraordinary achievements that most regular people do not achieve.
A few people do get in through legacy like the Bush Family.
However, I do agree with you that in the job fronts some hiring managers have discriminated on the basis of race, which is illegal of course. But even that is just a small %.
Look all the successful black people in America.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Do not worry about that. The best thing you can do in life is to succeed. In America we value success and winners.
If you succeed, you shame all the disbelievers for all time.
She is very smart. PFPF!
her children are anything but. i really don't know enough statistics to know if her way produce the most academic, and most importantly WELL ROUNDED children, but she raised great kids.
I guess what bugs me about this is that Chua has her eye on a sort of injustice (although she seems to not want to use that term) but refuses to peel back a layer or two and talk about why and how those dominant minorities got their power in the first place. Instead, she seems to question the validity of "giving" the savages the gift of democracy without first attenuating it to the incumbent power structure.
Mrs Amy, You must be happy about the way you raised your children, without their opinion, while the other Kids do things that Kids do, they are being exploded for you trying to convert them into something that you want far away of what they are. I want to be there when they realize that you just made them what you want only for filling your pride. When they needed company you made them to play piano with no rest they did not cry because they thought you were going to punish them.