Sigma Art 50-100mm F1.8 DC Hands-On Field Test
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
- Sigma have been blowing us away with every release in their 'Art' series of lenses. The recent 18-35mm F1.8 is one of the lenses we use most on TCSTV. When a companion lens was announced, the new 50-100mm F1.8, we knew we had to take it for a test drive. Does this new lens turn your APS-C camera into a full-frame equivalent? Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake take a look.
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Shot on the Sony FS5
My take on the 50-100mm would be it would really shine with a wedding photographer. The bride is coming down the isle and youre on the other end of the isle, but its really dark where she is at and you don't want to bump the iso too much and you don't use flash during ceremonies. i think it would perform awesomely there!
Does it come with OS?
@@kenhuang3820 no OS
@@kenhuang3820 to a certain extent the 1.8 aperture is compensating for that (and likely the reason it doesn't have os with how huge it already is). shoot wide open, make the shutter faster.
it is a kick in the dick for video, but if you're spending 1k on a lens like this you should probably pair it with a 250-500$ gimbal. and a nice LED panel.
the zooms at 6:05 " are you fucking serious"
Good review. Glad to see it!
I really like how Sigma is addressing the APS-C market on a more serious note than others. That's huge in my book.
You should show the focal lengths of your shots!
Agree
yeah
„...optically stunning.“ That‘s all I needed to know. I bought it and I‘m loving it! Using it on a D7100. Perfect!
I saw quite a noticeable difference in depth of field when you compared the Sigma at 1.8 vs the 70-200 at 2.8.
The sigma is noticeable more appealing.
That was my thought exactly. The Sigma seemed to have better bokeh.
Same depth of field, much nicer bokeh from the Sigma.
The depth of field would be different due to the aperture. The sensor size affects crop factor and overall light gathering ability, not the actual depth of field.
If you look at the backgrounds in the comparison again you'll see how the sigma is noticeably more out of focus.
Faulty test, they used narrower field of view on this Sigma, giving it more background compression. If they had used 200mm on 70-200mm it would give more background compression than Sigma at 100mm.
I don't really get the point of comparing this 80D/50-100mm combination to a 5D/70-200mm combination. The people who buy this lens are those who can't/don't want to invest in a 3k dollar camera and replace all their APSC lenses. The 50-100mm is meant for people who have an APSC body and want to achieve FF results at a relatively low price.
Great review though!
You forget video. Most pro video is S35, which is basically APS-C. Video pros are gaga over this lens (indeed the intro of this very video mentions their own videographer's interest, and they later have a segue into that very discussion).
Hell, even in the photography world your statement ignores huge swaths of pros:
Pros that focus on macro, where smaller yet still high performing sensors are simply better (less focus-stacking).
Nature photographers that appreciate the quicker autofocus potential of APS-C as well as longer telescopic reach.
Multi-cam groups that would rather use their budget to have more cameras in the setup than max out each individual camera, but still need those cameras to perform their best (this applies to some wedding photog styles, many effects photographers and those that deal with highly technical grabs such as certain timed-shot studio setups, and of course still other unique setups.
There's probably more, but I think the point is made.
Oh and there's me, someone who has long thought that the best balance of compromises between sensor sizes rests more squarely with APS-C...that APS-C, not 35mm Full-Frame, should have been made the new standard once the digital era had dawned. There are so-so reasons for 35mm sensors in the film world, but it's really only legacy thinking and legacy gear that has maintained it, through dumb inertia, as the standard. FF is not bad, but we are already seeing technology outpace the traditional fundamental differentiators, and in another ten years max...what will even be the point of FF? APS-C is the future, and eventually smaller than that, but for this next generation the best compromise is APS-C.
would love to see the faces of those "crazy about the lens" guys, when they discover not a single sharp photo or video at 1.8 is possible. at 2.2 or 2.8 get's better. useless thing.
and yes, i am spoiled to 14-24/2.8, 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8, 300/2.8, 50/1.4, 85/1.4, etc. all those lenses are sharp at full aperture. do you think nikon could not made a similar lens? they just don't want to - until it's 100%.
Not necessarily. I own quite a few high-end primes and I can tell you first hand this lens alone can replace 4-5 of those.
I bought this lens on June 10 and have been using it ever since. It's a beauty and I would say the same about its construction. I have used it to capture action, portraits, social events (weddings) and just about everything and mostly at F2. I have it paired with my Sony a6000 via the Sigma MC-11 adapter and the camera and lens have not been separated since the date of purchase. I often use it in poor light - because of its max fast aperture - and I find the results are outstanding. Regarding the focus - this took me a little time to master but with careful handling I get a high success rate. However, with the MC-11 adapter the auto-focus is not lightening fast but is no slouch and definitely faster than manual focus. I suspect it might focus faster mated directly to say a Canon body, that is, without the MC-11 adapter.. All in all, this is the best lens I've ever handled.
8:45 - The bokeh is MILES ahead of the full frame alternative though. Buttery smooth.
yeah .. this lens is bokeh machine
this lens takes badass photos. Is in all intents and purposes an amazing lens!
5:57: What a relaxing shot...
5:58: He's looking into my soul!!
May I ask, which 70-200 f2.8 it was pitted against? Because it beat the crap out of the 2.8 in terms of Bokeh. Smooth and silky, while the 2.8 looks very rough and unrefined in comparison.
You should have mentioned that when using this lens on a full frame body that crops in for video (such as D5, a7r2, etc.) that even in that crop mode, it will give you the look (and total light) of a 700-200 2.8 without the crop. That is unachievable without this lens.
Lovely and informative video with good, genuine review comments. But I just LOVE the setting. There is NOTHING like that anywhere near me in Londo, UK. Thanks guys.
Wow.. Can we get a review that doesn't compare fx/dx and how 'viable' dx is becoming? It has always been viable. The photographer takes the picture, not the camera. Some of the best photographers I know have made some of their most amazing shots on crop sensor gear. I liked this review but this seems to be a common theme across most of the popular CZcams folks.
I think this is a very promising lens for many uses- Depending on focus speed, I think this would be the ultimate court side volleyball or basketball lens and for low light events or portraits it looks unmatched by anything out there but I'd like to see if it has a serious focus breathing problem like so many of the wide tele's do...
Thanks for the videos!
I think the reason everyone who reviews this couple lenses talks about apsc vs ff is just that before the 18-30 f/1.8 there was not such a thing like a pro level lens for apsc, so that gave the winning hand to ff (because glass, glass, glass...). Sigma is trying to change the game (and if they are releasing this new lens, it means it's probably working) making better dx lenses, so the comparison of the results you get with this lens on an APSC body vs the ones you get with a 70-200 f/2.8 on a full frame camera is actually very pertinent, because it's the market they are targeting (people deciding between selling all their DX gear and investing 2.000 extra dolars to get full frame body with 2-3 fast primes, or with the same 2.000 dolars getting the 18-35 + 50-200 f/1.8).On the other hand, the focus is really fast, and with the usb dock you can limit the AF to 4+ mts (not sure about the exact number, but must be around that) to make it even faster. The focus breathing is really heavy (the angle of view gets smaller as you focus on closer subjects, which can be actually good for "macro" and portraits, but is with no doubt a problem for videographers), Cannons patent of a non-breathing medium tele is paying dividends for them, because no one has came up with a match for their 70-200 with OS.
Beautiful model, where can I book him?
LOL!
The model sure has perfected Blue Steel! 😀
Six years later, just look at these young studs. Like Goose and Maverick putting an F-14 through its paces over Wicker Chair Forest
Jordan SHAVED! Fresh & clean looking. Love the look of this video, great job!
Great lens, used it for a wedding. Was a bloody life saver.
For Sony, stick it on the MC-11, not the Metabones! :-P (Not knocking Metabones -- I have the IV -- it's just that the MC-11 works a lot better with the Sigma lenses)
there was a BIG difference in DOF at around 2:50
Yeah. I wonder what the focal length was for both of those shots.
Always appreciate your thoughtful reviews.
I am fairly sure I’ll be buying this. I tried it at a wedding yesterday on my R6 with my ef adapter for the sigma 28 1.4. DG Len’s. It’s essentially my 70-200 that I can use in the dark. The bokeh was glorious. It’s so good. Heavy as hell but when I’d only be using it for a few times on a wedding day like couples shots, and reception.
this lens is my dream 💭.. i bought the legendary 18-35 with the Canon M6 ii and now this lens will be my next step
You will not regret it
Him waving the camera around with the sensor exposed like that is making my eye twitch.
This is what I'm waiting...Thank you TheCameraStoreTV for the review! :-)
Yeah, no kidding, the lens looks absolutely gorgeous optically. Makes me want one **drool**
I always thought these lenses were built for video. My 18-35 autofocus sucks for taking photos, but is bang on for video.
Chris and Jordan, the begining
seeing new episodes of TCSTV come up in my subscribed list makes me smile :D
What a great review. The Camera Store has never disappoints me.
This is a good len but im not that good without an image stabilization. Im struggling without it :(
Why, o why, doesn't Sigma make one of these for the a6300? I'd buy it tomorrow!
I use this lens on my a7ii using the Mc-11. I have the sigma SA version to use with the SDQ.
You still get eye af and stuff
I have the 18-35mm with the MC-11. My next lens I want is an 85mm f/1.8 or a 50mm. Now I'm gonna have to look into the 50-100mm f/1.8. I would basically just have to carry 2 lenses and have a great range of focal lengths.
Third-party adaptor MC-11, and now FIRST-PARTY adaptor MC-21 for Panasonic S1/S1R, Leica SL/T/TL/TL2/CL, Foveon FF2020 (with L mount protocols upgraded specifically to optimise adapted lenses ;) )
The 1.8 bokeh was definitely nicer. What focal length were the compare shots of the flowers? Were they each at max telephoto or full wide? Neither showed a lot of compression so maybe it was 50mm vs 70mm?
I agree the bokeh on the 50-100 was much nicer
Great review as always. Keep up the good work!
i love your videos guys. favourite photography channel by a mile. YEAH CANADA!
Dragonfly picture: iso100 1/5000th! you could freeze the wings. Wow! That is a fast lens.
Great Job Chris, good to see you looking happy and healthy
I hope life is treating you well and glad to see you still doing lots of Amazing photography
hope to get a chance to catch up to you soon :)
70-200mm f/2.8 add a speed boost glass you get 50-140mm f/2.0 APS-C equivalent with image stabilization.
I've got this lens and love it a lot. The only thing missing to me is image stabilization. Other than that I have nothing to complain. It works beautifully and accurately with my D500 without the need for autofocus fine tune.
Interesting lens - thanks for sharing!
The Absolute Duo kit.
Sigma 17-50mm f2.8
Sigma 50-100mm f1.8
6:23
Pretty minor traces of CA around the highlights of his eye. Not bad, but not perfect. On par with other Art lenses.
Good review.
Well, keep in mind that Sigma has had a 50-150 mm 2.8 with Image stabilisation for a APC sensor. So that is a better equivalent for the 70-200 mm lens.
Sigma designed this lens for the Sigma sd Quattro, they'e kind enough to offer it for other mounts.
This was a damn good review; very enthusiastic! Thank You!
Perfect short telephoto lens for indoor dance photos in very dim lighting with my Nikon D500. Weather sealing and optical stablization (VR) is not important criteria for indoor theater for fast moving dancers. I own this specialty lens and it works great for what I use it for. Very sharp wide open.
I really wanted to see focusing speed which is missing in this video :(
Let do a full field test with the Fuji xt3 xt4 to a Canon Fringer lens adapter . Mounted to either the Sigma 105 or the 135 mm lenses !
it is HEAVY i was weirded out on the first day but once i got used to i havent regretted it since. GREAT LENS
Great shot of jordan, so much better without the beard
I know you said that the 70-200 f/2.8 was basically the same thing but if you watch the video.. they are clearly not the same bokeh, not the same look. for cinematic results, the f/1.8 from Sigma is significantly better, especially for me as a video shooter
Sigma Art lenses are amazing ! Nice review !
love my 18-35/1.8...it brought my a77 back out of my bag and the results are stunning...with sony giving the a-mount shooters the middle finger, just can't figure out why sigma didn't release this lens in the A-mount...huge market out there for it
Have they officially confirmed that? I know that Sigma and Tamron release A-mount glass a couple months after the Canon and Nikon variants.
I got the 18-35/1.8 for my Pentax K-3II and I love it too. sadly Sigma offers no K-mount version of the 50-100/1.8. The build and image quality of these Sigma lenses are great.
+Zwiesel66 same here: I also have the 18-35 f1.8 and pair it with my K-3, the results are fantastic. I've heard that Sigma took about a year after the 18-35's release before they started making in a k-mount, so I'm hoping history repeats itself once again.
If you already had this lens, would you consider getting the new Sigma 135 also?
Sigma, and all the other companies for that matter, need to start weather sealing their lenses. I sold my Sigma 50mm 1.4 because of that alone.
Great video guys !! you two are awesome !! great music :)
I currently own the 70D with the 18-135 kit lens. It has a great range but the aperture isn't very ideal for low-light. I like to shoot both portraits and video, and if I only had the money for it, I'd buy both the 18-35 f/1.8 and the 50-100 f/1.8 and complete my photo/cinematography setup.
I would love for you guys to do a review on the previous Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 lens, I have this lens and I'm LOVE it, its fast and the focal range is awesome. I'm curious which one would prevail. This 50-100 f1.8 or that one. To me I preferred the 50-150mm f2.8, long reach, its sharp, and it has IS on it. Can you do a review on it? Only person who has done it was Jared Polin.
I wish they made this lens for either Sony, Pentax, or micro 4/3; all systems with IBIS which makes this more usable for those systems.
Cannot wait for the 70-200 f/2.8 from Sigma, along with a renewed 17-50 f/2.8 with image stabilization…
Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Summilux 10-25mm f/1.7 ASPH is a fast zoom lens too.
I wish they made this and a 70-200 for sony e mount
Your reviews are unparalleled !!! :)
This optically stunning lens makes that already handsome man in the portrait even more handsome.
Shooting with the Canon 80D. I purchased this lens and my biggest complaints are the weight and, given the weight the lack of image stabilization is an issue for me. I think I'm regretting this purchase. Or maybe I'm regretting not being able to afford a full frame camera and a 24 -70 /2.8 lens.
can i ask you how are you feeling about your choice now? I also shoot on 80d and have already the 18-35, was thinking to get this one to have more options.
Dany Reyes Are you having focusing issues when shooting with the 80D with the 18-35 at f/1.8? I've been wanting that lens but people say that there are focusing issues with the lens when paired with the 80D
Evelyn Garcia the focusing is WAY better with pretty much any other(canon STM) lens, but i would say it's reliable enough. I'd give it a 7/10. The only thing i would change in my shopping, honestly, would be the 80d itself. Dinamic range is one of the bests on the Canon lineup but it's still a joke compared to sony.
Arrrggg!!! I was waiting for your review of this lens before buying... I couldn't wait and bought it before you guys made the video! Glad to say the lens lives up to this review, I'm using it for weddings and Cosplay/event shoots so the weather sealing is not that big a of a problem for me, it is a heavy lens tho!
OMG IT'S HERE!
Wow, I was not expecting an f stop that reliable with such a focal length, closest thing I have to this lens is my 24-105 f/4 L from Canon
This lens replaces Nikon 50 mm ($269.95), 60 mm($749.95), 85 mm ($629.95), and 105 mm ($1,599.95) prime lenses at F1.8 and gives you a constant aperture video zoom lens all for about $1,400.00. You get tack sharp, crazy good images, great auto-focus and save $1,800.00 and a bunch of space in your camera bag. Not bad for starters. Team this with the Sigma 18-35 mm F1.8 about $800.00 (replaces 20 mm ($1,029.95) 24 mm ($979.95) 28 mm ($899.95) and 35 mm ($269.95) prime lenses) and you have almost perfect coverage of most needed focal lengths at the full frame equivalent of F2.8. You can always get the inexpensive 55-200 mm Nikon zoom lens to cover that missing focal length from 100 mm - 200 mm.
Somebody seems not getting sponsor offers from Sigma. :D :D :D
5:54 man thats a big canon you have there (>///>)
Was hoping you would strap a Metabones Speed Booster on a GH4 and show how the lens performs on MFT. Please do a follow-up focusing on MFT, in particular for video!
i think it's APS-C because SD Quattro is APS-C and it is set to be the game changer for Sigma camera
Good job Sigma
BTW when will SD Quattro review arrive?
Did you notice any focusing problems? That's Tony Northrup's biggest complaint, but then he was shooting the Nikon version.
Mike Earussi Tony Northrup is never able to focus with any camera that is not his "favorite". Heck he was complaining about focusing with the A7Rii and 85mm GM but instead of using eye af he was doing focus recompose!!! what is this the 90s???? lol
When testing, 'focus & recompose' eliminates variables. It's called proper testing methodology.
great review!! now i want this lens so bad
quality reviews guys!
That why most people bought the 18-35 f1.8 but did not buy this one. I think it is too heavy without IS. Should be able to cut down 300 gram weight.
would you own a sigma 18-35 and a sigma 50-100?
Alexandre Silva Tell me why not?
Color looks fantastic on this video. Was it graded differently than the other videos?
would love love this equivalent at full frame
Those eyes - laser sharp. Jordan without his beard.... Saying he is ready for a second baby??
Beautiful lens, I just wish I could've used it for macro. Then I would have definitely kept it, but for now, the Sigma 18-35 is still my goto lens for everything!
The lack of stabilisation was a big surprise
Gorgeous lens. I really wish they would've made a direct successor with same focal range as their 50-150mm. I'd take the extra reach over the new wider aperture. 2.0/2.8 is plenty for this range, imo.
Yeah I agree. I really love that lens it has such wonderful character even when shooting video. Love the extra reach as well. They are becoming harder to find. I'm guessing there is an engineering/scientific reason their 1.8 zooms are just shy of standard focal range. With that said I want this lens to accompany my 18-35mm for my video work.
At the 2019 X Summit Fuji listed some F/2 zooms (18-35, 35-70, 70-140) on the prospective lens development chart. Until Fuji decide to produce them, Sigma has no zoom rivals among APS-C.
Need this lens!!!! I do toy reviews and this would be buttery AF
yeah, your pics will look like they're smeared with butter!
Love the music
If third party lenses keep on getting better over time, it makes me wonder who in their right mind would buy the more expensive first party lens in a few years. That is if we assume that the performance gap keeps on getting narrower. This is a beautiful lens! Not perfect but beautiful nonetheless.
I think people will still buy first party lenses to nail focus, especially the Nikon users. From experience with some of the lenses, I begin to think Nikon is intentionally making their camera not to nail focus with a third party lens. Sigma lenses works worst on the Nikon system for reasons I don't know.
I've heard that sigma reversed engineered their AF and thats why they have so many issues on nikons.
Sweet lens!
Watchatalkingabout Chris! This lens allows an APS-C to match a full-frame camera with an f2.8 lens in both depth of field (f2.7) and low light performance (makes up a stop of light, giving the full-frame about a third or half a stop advantage depending on the cameras used) ...Having said that, in the end, it's all irrelevant. Computational photography will make these lenses obsolete overnight in just a few short years.
Jordan looking good lol
I think they can only do 2x crop but this is designed for aps-c and as far as aps -c only lenses who can compete a 80D with these two can can go head to head with a 6D with a 24-70 and 70-200 for less than half the price not win but compete well
Promising lens!
Can you guys mix the sound a little bit louder? That's so soft on a MacBook Air...
Brilliant lens, too bad you guys did not mention that while zooming in, the lens won't lose focus, which is an amazing feature for videographers...
Thenx for that great video, BUT I wish there was two shots :( crop 50mm1.8 (sigma50-100) vs full frame 50mm1.8 (canon 50mm) to see diference!
It would be perfect for Pentax cameras (aps-c), since they have built in stabilization...
Sounds quite good!!!!
Lack of OIS and weather sealing is a deal breaker for me I'm afraid, despite this lens being optically superb and quite nicely priced. I just really need those two features it lacks.
@TheCameraStoreTv could you please tell me what lenses you now use for recording ? I see beautiful bokeh and nice 3d separation of subject. have you changed the lenses for your fs5 ?