Hey hey Jonathan! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad you enjoy this format! I can't always do a TLDR section depending on the video type, but generally my "review" videos will always have TLDR Section! Thank you so much for the kind words and subscribing! I truly appreciate it! See you in the next one!
Hey hey Viacheslav! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It took me awhile to debate which I wanted, the focus breathing of the 50-100 is what sort of killed me as I didn't want to deal with that too much even though I usually don't get bothered by it, but it was a bit much. This 50-150 really sings with the 18-35 when you add a speed booster to it. It fulfilled the missing focal length between 35-50mm and drops the aputure down to f2.0 which is much closer to the F1.8 of the 18-35 (no booster). These two lenses in that specific combination is my MFT narrative filmmaker kit of choice. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Kevin! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! That is an absolute STEAL! It's a really underrated lens, does very well for video and I'm sure for photography too. Definitely a heavy one for sure. Enjoy it and have fun! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
And another important thing about the Stabilization is how it looks in motion? For steady shots it might be ok. But mostly, it suffers from stuttering and similar issues during the camera panning.
The OS in this lens does a great job with how it handles movement while staying still or panning and tilting slowly or quickly! I didn't really see any stuttering issues or even hear optical element knocking around when I whip panned. Hope this helps! Thank you so much again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
He's absolutely right. I've been using it's earlier cousin (Sigma 50-150 APO DC HSM, Nik mount) for years alongside the Sig 18-35... first with my AF100 and GH4, now with my Sony FS5. It has no lack of sharpness, and that version is actually about the same size as the 18-35. Boosted, that effective ~35-105/2 range is a perfect pairing. Here's the crazy part... I still use it with a Speedbooster (MetaBones) on my FS5 in certain situations. It absolutely vignettes, BUT, the effect is slight and feathered vs. a hard vignette. For something like a closeup or interview, it's an effect I'd probably add back in post anyway. Now, I've also tried it on a Nikon D850 forced into FX mode. With that sensor pairing, the vignette is hard and unusable... so depending on your camera, YMMV.
Greetings Kevin! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! This lens is definitely a golden gem that I think got forgotten somehow, I only wished that its little brother, Sigma 17-50 f/2.8, had a similar long focus throw. That was one of the first lenses I paired to my GH4 and while it produced amazing images with the speedbooster, the focus throw was about 30 degrees and extremely hard to follow a subject :( But its ok because we got the Sigma 18-35 instead! Thank you so much again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one every Wednesday!
I just got this lens on the used market for my GH5 for $425, and I love it!! Thank you for this excellent video; I truly appreciate all of the effort you've put into all of your content--it is all great!!
Hey hey Tanner! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! That is so awesome! That's a great deal and $200 less than what I bought it for at the time! Enjoy it and have fun creating shots with it! Until then I will keep doing my best with my content! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey Joaquim! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I really love this lens, quality, and what it does for video work! I wish that the baby brother Sigma 17-50 f2.8 had the same design with a longer focus throw and internal zoom. If that was the case, I probably would have just stuck to a few sets of these lenses for video, Sigma really has done well since that generation of lenses to now! Definitely let the community here know when your review goes up, would love to check it out! Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one every Wednesday!
@@TLDR_filmmaker wow! Thank you so much! Btw you're format is brilliant! Surprised I hadn't found your channel before. I personally love the idea of lenses with internal zoom when it comes to keeping dust away from the internals. True that about the 17-50. And thanks a ton for the vote of confidence man! You're a star!
You are most welcome! I'm still fairly new with youtube, I restarted this channel under this name and format early this year to see if people enjoy it and gain any benefits. Thank you so much for all the kind words!
I bought one for my canon R7 in the second-hand market. After my testing, the sharpness of this lens far exceeds that of the Shima 50-100 f1.8 art, especially in the corners. The OS is perfectly compatible with the R7, and the autofocus is fast and perfect。
That is amazing! So glad you were able to find this lens, they are quite sparse these days. Very interesting to hear that it performs a bit better than the 50-100. I love this lens, unfortunately haven't gotten a chance to use it much since switching to full frame.
this lense is thrid generation of 50-150mm f2.8 that manufactured from 2011 to 2014 (discontinued)，the second generation that without OS was produced in 2008.i have both them. Interestingly, the second generation lens is also sharper than the 50-100art, especially in the corners,and the R7 body OS can also work perfectly. But there is a problem with the second-generation's autofocus work. In photo mode, its focus is behind the focus point when you zoom in to view the image, and it can't be corrected by camera body AF fine-tuning or repair.(I have also tested it on 90d and 5d4) There are also similar issues in video mode. glad its manual focusing can work normally and get sharp images. I found three methods to focus correctly 1.use MF 2.first use AF mode (one shot),half press the shutter,then MF it until clear 3.Using Focus Surround Mode，you will get amazing image In addition, in video mode, when the aperture between 50mm to 70mm is below F4 and the aperture between 70mm to150mm is below F5.6, its autofocus can actually work normally! It looks like a usable lens that 50-150mm f4-5.6@@TLDR_filmmaker
I bought this lens in early 2017 which is almost exactly 5 years ago and this is STILL my ABSOLUTE favorite lens that I own. The image is pin sharp and the F stop makes me able to shoot in low lights while with longerr focal length. For a stage photographer, this is a GREAT lens. The extra 50mm focal length reach is absolutely necessary for stage photographer while F stops might not matter that much. Yes, there are often low light performances but I think zooming is more important since stage lights helps a lot. Fortunately, I could get a new one since in 2017 it has already been discontinued. I was looking for it all around the web and this one I think is the last new one available in my country lol. The fact that it was never a popular lens for photographer while it is the APS-C equivalent for 70-200 with great IQ is a wonder. But if you want to get it, I assure you that this is a good purchase.
Hey hey Akhlis! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Totally agree, this lens is quite magical and I love its pairing with the Sigma Art 18-35mm. For cinematographers, these two lenses for S35 is probably the best out there from the sharp image, great focus gear, and the barrel does not extend, simply amazing! It looks like the OS version is now very very rare, I don't see any available in my country either. I definitely won't be selling mine, this lens can work with me for many years. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I can't speak to the original 50-150 (mk1 version) but I have to say after recently purchasing a used 50-150 mk2 non-OS (and having owned the OS version a few years ago) that the mk2 of this lens definitely should be worth any videographers consideration if you can find a good used copy. Literally about half the weight of the OS version, near beer can size and it still delivers a sharp image (not that I'm particularly interested in absolute tack-sharpness for video anyway). It does suffer from a bit more focus breathing than the OS version though judging from he examples in this video, but overall I'd say the mk2 is a perfect companion to the 18-35 1.8 if you're looking for a similar size and weight across both lenses and don't see the lack of OS as a dealbreaker :)
Hey hey Robbie! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Awesome to hear that the Mk2 version is still a contender! For me OS was a big deal so I really hunted down this lens haha. I do have a quick question about the Mk2, since the lens is smaller does it still have the internal zoom design? Or does the MK2 barrel extend out? Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey mate! Yes the MK2's zoom still has the same internal design and does not extend. If I were to liken it to anything in terms of build and ergonomics I would say it's a lot closer to the 18-35 1.8, though physically it's still a longer lens.
@@TLDR_filmmaker I must of skipped it, thank you. Does Sigma 50-150mm OS work with GH5, sorry? And does it makes sence getting Sigma 50-150mm with out OS?
Hey, did you happen to buy it? Since with a speedbooster the aperture of the 50-150mm 2.8 can go up to around 1.8 (because of the 0.71x) I was wondering if it is still usable (sharp) at that aperture? If it is then it would beat the 50-100mm 1.8 hands down.
I have the first version of this lens and it is as sharp as a lens can get on a Nikon 24 MP sensor. If your primary concern is videography rather than still photography then OS is desirable otherwise, they all do the same job.
Hey hey lensman57! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Awesome! Glad to hear from someone that has the V1 lens. Back in the day I couldn't find too many video reviews on the V1. Still rocking two of these OS versions, love how well they perform! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Just picked one of these up on eBay for my C100. Very excited to try it out! I currently use the 18-35 as my main lens and found myself wanting: 1. A telephoto option 2. An OS version I was torn between getting a 24-105 F4 or the 50-100 1.8, but I think for my needs this will be a better choice than either of them! Thanks for this great video, otherwise I would never have known about this perfect lens for my needs.
Hey hey Ben! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! This lens will definitely shine on your C100 paired with the 18-35! A nice full useful range and that OS when you need it :D You're most welcome! I will continue to do my best with my reviews and content! Enjoy the lens when it arrives, have fun with it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
GREAT ! i have 18-35 and this lens for my m43 system.Crop sensor lens is the best for m43,m43 lens is ok but when you have both crop sensor(canon)and m43 setup,the crop sensor lens can give you extra zoom range and much more cheaper than the same on m43.Giving example of this lens comparing with Olympus 40-150.Although 40-150 is smaller and 40-150 to be 80-300, while the 50-150 would go to 100-300 and having image stablizion weight 400g more and much more cheaper even on second hand.Because i don't have 40-150 so i can't compare the quality these two lenes but 50-150 is quite good compare to my other m43 lens at least at 2.8 aperture i can fully open and no problem at all! And at first i am considering do i need to get 50-100/1.8 or this lens.For extra 50mm(100mm) is more important than 1 stop of extra light because this lens has image stablizion .For the creamy bokeh,i can zoom all the way into 150mm/2.8 compare to 100/1.8.While the image quality i think it is likely the 50-100/1.8 is going to win but it is not much by surfing on dxo website.
Hey Kit Leung! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! Totally agree, I think when it comes to the world of videography, having the sharpest craziest lens isn't as important since we're almost moving. Photography I can understand why someone wants the best lens possible...but...I feel theres not as many reasons to shoot wide open as there is to shoot closed down to f/4 or f/5.6. What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
I have owned this lens since new and it is the sharpest lens in my bag period. I wish they had a 17-50 to match it's sharpness. Yea they have a 17-50 2.8 but it's not as sharp as the Canon 17-55 2.8. My only issue over the years was the OS system goes bad after time. Since 2014 I had it at Sigma to replace the OS twice and it is at Sigma as we speak to change it yet again. I was thinking seriously about getting the 50-100 or a 70-200 to replace it but the amount of work I use it for (weddings and portraits) makes it hard to let go. I just hate for the OS to go out again in 2 or 3 years
Hey hey Sugashack74! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It's definitely such a wonderful lens, really underrated and definitely nearly unknown for dslr filmmakers. I have two copies of these, the OS seems ok? but I don't use it because of my GH5 IBIS. Eventually if I ever get a Panasonic S1 (full frame with APS-C mode) this lens will be transitioning to it and I can't wait to use the lens on the sensor size it was meant for :) Thanks for the heads up about the OS and for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
Greetings Legoguy830! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Dude I'm excited for you!!! Enjoy the lens when it arrives and create some wonderful stuff with it! Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
The last point you make, about 1.8 vs. 2.8 is great in my opinion. With such a shallow DOF one can get object's nose in focus and ears blurred, for example. That is not what people want most of the time :)
Greetings Momchil! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! There are definitely moments where you can deploy some techniques to keep all of your subject in focus at f/1.8, unfortunately it's harder to achieve unless there is plenty of space to get the right composition :( Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
I’m thinking about which telephoto lens I should get in the future. This looks like a decent option. How would you compare the sharpness between this and the 18-35mm?
Hey! Thanks for engaging. I haven't done enough film work to warrant my thoughts to this question. But coming from a photography stand point and since I have experience with the 18-35 and this one as well, they both have impressive resolving capabilities and while I only do real world studies, keeping that in mind, both lenses are incredibly sharp for my humble needs. From a filling background but it always helps to have a decent focus ring grip and focus throw which I feel the 18-35 does better owing to the Art series features. But going by what's said in this video, the 50-150 is great too. Hope I could help in some way.
Hey hey again Nate! The sharpness is quite good from what I can tell and I'd say is comparable between the two lens generations. However I may be at a disadvantage in terms of doing a full optics comparison as I only have my GH5 to go off of (non-boosted) instead of C100 or C200 that you have to film with. But all in all I think this lens, given its added 50mm reach, onboard OIS that works really really well, puts it ahead of the Sigma 50-100 in terms of deployability for me. Hope this helps! Thanks again for always stopping by!
2022, i found one of these for photography on ebay still in its box in brand new condition for £450 on ebay, fantastic lens, the optics on it a top notch, sharp at ƒ2.8 razor sharp at ƒ4 only thing i didn't like about it was the ability to pop the lens collar off even when fully done up fo i use a pu plate on the ef to efm adapter, i use the pu plate as a hand hold point so i didn't want to be hand holding it with a collar that had the potential to pop open. i also use the EX 85mm ƒ1.4 lens hood with this lens instead of the super long one it comes with, its a bit long in crowds lol
Hey hey Laura! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you were able to find this lens! It is definitely one of my favorites. Interesting about the lens collar popping of, both of my units do not have this problem after I tighten them down. Perhaps the lens collar you have is defective and not locking together before you tightening it into position? Haha yea the lens hood is ridiculously long, I rarely use it, glad you have a better solution for it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker in general use the collar is fine, its just the way that the locking screw is sping loaded it can still be popped open with force, the chances are very unlikely as it is a tight lock, mine works as it should but for my doing walk about hand held zoo stuff any chance is still a chance its a lens i have been recommending to people, shame its not still around much i did email sigma japan to ask why they hadn't made an ƒ1.8 to fill in the gap between the 18-35mm and 50-100mm ƒ1.8 and they said its a lens we can see peing very usful and that they would pass on the info to the planning department so my take on that is if enough people ask it might get made a 24/35mm to 50/70mm ƒ1.8 would be a great lens, certainly one i would love even if its just a short 35-50mm ƒ1.8
I bought this lens over a year ago (and this video helped with that decision). I have used the 50-100 1.8 previously and like you mentioned in the video it the focus breathing was way to heavy, plus I use a shoulder rig and having stabilisation is pretty necessary for telephoto lenses. So I was super excited to be able to pick up one of these lenses in EF mount for my Blackmagic Pocket 6K. But long story short a couple of weeks ago this lens was misplaced and was left outside in some long grass for 2 weeks. When I collected it there was no sign of it ever being out in the weather. I apprehensively put it on my camera and straight away the iris clicked into the right f-stop and the image stabilisation worked! I couldn't believe it! Very lucky! And a testament to just how well constructed this lens is. Just to be sure I'm going to take it in for a professional check up/service.
Hey hey Christopher! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video helped with your decision over a year ago and glad you were able to retrieve the lens and that its still working! I now have acquire two of this lens and I love it still. Does a great job with photography too! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I have the version II (without OS and tripod collar), sharp enough up until 122mm, after that 2.8 is really soft wide open. The AF is on the slow side on a nikon dslr, But a half the price and weight, it might be a good option aswell
Hey hey Eduardo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Awesome to know about Version II non-OS version! It's quite an older lens all things considered, I can't image the AF would work too well for video. Still a wonderful lens and focal range for people filming on Super 35 sensors! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
The sigma 50-100 lens could be 1/2 parfocal, it doesn't change focus when zooming but breathes when focusing. I would like to know if the 50-150 loses focus or not when zooming. Thnks for the video.
Awesome idea! Really like your way of giving fast and valuable content! I'm considering this lens for my new XH-1. I couldn't be more happy with my Sigma 18-35 and the fringer Pro adapter. Maybe the Sigma 50-150 would be the perfect addition! I was wondering: Is this lens really parfocal? I've read it somewhere.
Greetings Farbrice! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I definitely feel the 50-150 is a great companion to the Sigma 18-35, especially if you have an electronic adapter but don't have a camera with IBIS, that this lens does have OIS in it. I just gave it a test with a non-boosted adapter to mimic your XH-1, unfortunately its not parfocal on my setup, its slightly off from focus when I zoom to and from the extremes. However this could potentially be the problem of the cheap non boosted adapter in which the flange distance is ever so slightly off that it could hinder the parfocal ability. I know with my Sigma 18-35 when I had a boosted adapter, I adjusted the booster optics and it made my Sigma nearly parfocal, not perfect, but pretty darn close. Unfortunately this wont be possible with your XH-1 because the sensor size is already the same for these Sigma lenses. Hope the helps! Thanks again for stopping by and hope to see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Damn! It's so nice that you take this crazy amount of time to answer to all the questions of your audience in detail! Thank you so much, I couldn't get an answer to the parfocal question anywhere but here!
You are most welcome! I try my best to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. I'm sure one of these days I won't be able to keep up as my channel continues to grow, but for now, I will continue to do my best! Glad I was able to help!
Speaking of sigmas, I am having a HOOT with their monster 50-500 (OS, HSM) that I use speedboosted on my cameras. It's actually super usable speedboosted for s35 (feels like 35mm) or natively on full frame. Surprisingly like your 50-150 it has zero breathing. It's wild I don't know how they do that. I also have the 18-35 and 50-100 as tempting as the 50-150 is I'll keep the 50-100 for consistancy as it's always paired with the 18-35. 50-150 non-speedboosted for me is not as usable as the 50-500 speedboosted which "feels like" a 35-350mm which is usable as a semi wide like a Canon 30-300.
Hey hey Stuart! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! For sure if you already have the 50-100, just keep it going! I think my friend had a 50-500 that was quite the canon in comparison to my lenses haha! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Carriage! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful! I don't think its a big deal either between 1.8 and 2.8 at the telephoto length especially if you put a speed booster on it for M43 sensors. I no longer use a booster on my sigma 18-35 and only boost the 50-150. This essentially gives me two lenses that go from a 18-105mm with the only difference being f1.8 and f2.0. Its perfect for M43 shooters! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Sigma 50-100 has fast focus for photography + much sharper wide open. Unique lens flares. Cinematic focus pulling pressure & and it has chromatic abberation (maybe lower). Im trying to find a video that compares 150mm with 200mm (how much zoom diffrence). Sigma 50-100 can be also a 100-200 with no speedbooster ;) Nice Video :)
Hey Michalis! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! Even though I ended up going with the Sigma 50-150...lord knows I still want the Sigma 50-100 just to have a true matched pair! The 150 on a booster reaches a theoretical full frame 225mm, times like this I wish I had a full frame camera to give a definitive look between the two setups! I'm so tempted on the A7iii, but will wait to see what the A7siii tries to do to compete. Thank you so much for kind words and stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
It would be interesting if sigma made an e mount version of this lens. Better focus speed and focal range I would trade for the 1.8 , but that’s just opinion
Greetings Pat! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I agree, would have been awesome to see some of these legacy lenses continue their life with the new mirrorless mounts that works for Sony E and even MFT. As much as I love that there are adapters that allows these other format lenses to work, there something to be said for native mounts! But...not sure if you're a MFT shooter, but with Panasonic teaming up with Sigma for their new "S" series full frame line, I'm interested to see what Sigma brings to the table or if they are just simply creating L-mount versions of their current FF line of lenses. Thanks again for stopping by in the comments! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Hey hey Sébastien! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It is very difficult to find them now, very rarely do they show up on the market :( Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Arshil! Thank you so much for checking out this video, the kind words, and subscribing! I am so glad that this video was helpful! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hi TLDR, nice video...makes me want to get one of this lenses. Been looking for it on ebay and couldn't find the ef version with optical stabilization. Are there any sites you recommend for looking at lenses where i might find it? thanks for your awsome content!!
Hey hey Sergio! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Unfortunately Ebay and maybe KEH are the only places you'll find this lens second hand. Not sure if you're in the USA, I see them come up regularly in the USA territory. Thanks again for stopping by, and the kind words, I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey nice Video! Do you know anything about the compatibility with the second version of this lens with the Viltrox speedbooster and the GH5? Does IBIS work? Thank you!
Greetings Paul! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! While I don't have direct experience with the 2nd version of this lens + viltrox on the GH5. The IBIS and aperture will most likely all be fine due to Sigma having always done well with its electronic protocols while Tamron have had weird communication through adapters with their older lenses (newer Tamron EF lenses don't seem to have the problem). So I wouldn't be worried based on Sigma's track record with their older lenses and electronic adapters. However if AF for photos is your main needs, then each lens will vary in terms of AF performance. Native lenses would definitely be the best way to go. Hope this helps! Thank you so much for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one!
Hey hey Frank! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Very true, back when this was filmed I was still very much in the Panasonic GH5 camp, now I am in the Sony FF camp. However I have not gotten rid of these two lenses as I do still us the GH5 and will continue to use these lenses on either my A7III in Crop mode (will eventually upgrade to A7iv) Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Greetings Ahmed! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The reason this lens won't work on a Full Frame Camera is because it was originally made for a sensor size that is smaller than a full frame sensor. While this lens is capable of being mounted onto a regular Canon 5d or 6d, you will see a circle with the image in it and the rest is complete black. Hope this makes sense and helps! Thank you so much for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one!
earned a sub my man. gonna buy this with the sigma adaptor for a sony a6500. maybe itll have better luck with the ibis at 150! I'm mostly video too so I'm happy you covered that mostly, most everything ive found online has been about photos
Hey hey RowRow! Thank you so much for checking out this video, commenting, and subbing! If you are talking the official Sigma MC-11 adapter, I would double check to see if someone has use this lens with it. The reason I say this is because that adapter is mainly for the newer generation of Sigma Art lenses and it could have some trouble with its older generation lenses (weird I know). If this is the case you may want to go with some other 3rd party adapters where they have some basic profiles that will at least handle the lenses aperture adjustments and transferring focal length data to the a6500 for IBIS purposes. Hope this helps and that you're able to snag this lens! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker gotcha! do you think the metabones would work fine if not? seems like the higher quality of the two, just wanted to go with the sigma because i have the 18-35 1.8 already so buying a sigma adapter for two sigma lenses seems logical
Hey hey K.D.! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Truly a beautiful lens that I wish Sigma rebirthed and updated into its current ART line, but I'm not complaining as the used prices on this lens and performance is wonderful! Thank you so much again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one every Wednesday!
Being discontinued, is this really good? Can you provide sample images?.. I'm want to buy this instead of 50-100 f1.8 art because this lens has OS.. BTW, I'm just a hobbyist.. thanks!
Greetings Sirhoseven! Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question! I just have a couple questions, are you looking to use this for video or more for photography? Also I am on the GH5 micro43 system, will you be using it on a native APS-C camera body or something smaller with an adapter like I am? Because I do mainly with videos, the optical quality is not the thing I look for because all my pictures are moving constantly, so sharpness is not a big deal for me. This lens is sharp and matches up with my Sigma 18-35 quite well. I've used it on a feature film shoot, but I don't have access to the footage yet until the movie is released later next year. If you're using it for photography, there are a couple videos of the non-OS version that you can check out. From what I can remember people enjoyed using it for photography and this version of the lens only gets better from the original non-OS versions. Hope this helps!
Greetings Phanumat! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! You are most welcome, this lens is a lot of fun! Hope you get one soon! Thanks again for stopping by, check back every Wednesday for something new!
Hey hey AJIT! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I wish I could, if someone is able to supply me with those units for a review then I can. Otherwise I don't have the means test and compare every combination possible to other filmmakers needs. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey Jeremy! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! I think it depends on what factors you're considering the 2.8 aperture for, 1) If we're talking about overall light gathering of the lens, then yes its definitely not a great as a 1.8 aperture. However I've learned that even though lenses can get down to insanely wide apertures to concentrate as much light to the sensor as possible, it's a pain to film with such a shallow depth of field and you sort of loose composition when the entire subject is not in focus but only a part of the subject. 2) For narrative filmmaking I have a slight luxury of having time to light a scene so that I can comfortably shoot at f2.8 or higher depending on my depth of field needs. For a documentary filmmaker this could potentially be a problem, however this problem has been lessened with cameras like GH5s and A7s series. I think with the rise of DSLR cameras for filmmaking, some filmmakers are mistaking what the aperture is really for and instinctively think F2.8 - 5.6 are undesirable lenses. If shallower depth of field is what you're going for in your shot, then 2.8 could be a limitation depending on what focal length you are using. If uncontrolled low light is what you mainly film in, then the aperture should not be the adjustment you're looking for rather you should invest in a camera that lives in higher Native ISO's. A well selected camera body in these situations are worth more than a lens thats able to get down to f1.4. Having both would be the ideal setup, but if I had to go with one or the other I would selected a Low Light Camera body. Somewhere along the line I believe filmmakers mistakenly started gauging their exposure through the use of aperture adjustments instead of using lights or using a low light camera that is able to operate cleanly at higher ISO's. When you look at larger budget films they are usually filming at f5.6 and only reserve 2.8 and below for special shots, but definitely not the entire film. I hope this helps clarify a little bit where I come from in terms of my opinions on this lens and the lenses I select to use in general. Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new! What kind of films do you enjoy filming?
Greetings 소나무! Thank you so much for watching the video and commenting! Yes, to prevent vignetting at 150mm you need to turn off the IBIS and on the lens. However I have realized that the vignette only really showed up in darker scenes, when you are outside in a bright scene it doesn't seem to show up as much. Hope this helps!
Nice vid and cool to see to some love for this lens. Hope that Sigma takes notice;-) I have the non-stabilized version II and think it's the perfect compromise of compact size and IQ. Lack of stabilisation is becoming less an issue with stabilised sensors. Great times for photo/video :-)
Hey T. Linssen! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! This lens is definitely a hidden gem, I feel, I'm sad that they discontinued it. Its definitely a great time for photo and video with IBIS! I already have steady hands so having the IBIS lets me pull off some great shots very quickly! Thanks again! What kind of videos or photos do you enjoy taking?
what has been your experience with autofocus in video? Specifically Autofocus-continuous in video mode? Was thinking about buying this for Sony A6300 with Sigma MC-11 adapter, but will be switching to Fuji XT3 with Fringer adapter.
Hi ,I love the video on Sigma 50-150 mm f2.8 with os. Sadly it was discontinued by Sigma. I'm a budding photographer. Every time I meet a photographer, they have couple of primes, 70-300mm telephoto lens in their bags. I use a nikon d3100 and I purchased 50mm f1.8 prime, recently added sigma 18-35mm f1.8. I like the constant aperture lenses and looking in the focal range 70-300mm and came across this sigma 50-200mm f2.8 with os.
Hey tns incp! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! Unfortunately I deal more with videography with the lenses I choose to use so I may not be a good eye for what someone needs for photography. The question I get asked a lot is, "is the lens sharp?" for a filmmaker, yes they are sharp for the resolutions we work in, but to a photographer it may be hideous because they need to print their work. Sigma does make a 70-200 f2.8 but it's a previous generation design, not sure if they will be updating it to their new ART series design. I've heard some good things from the newer Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2. But alas, I don't think I can give much of a recommendation on which one to go with as I don't have those lenses, and also because I use these lenses manually and don't have native camera bodies to test how fast their Auto Focus really is. Sorry I can't be of more help :(
Lately I have watched several TLDR Filmaker videos, and Im impressed how I can find answer to almost all of my answer. For my Fuji X-T3 first I used my old Sigma HSM 17-50mm lens, but I really hated it, it had some focusing issues, with front focus, It was really hard to properly set the focus, so I sold it, and for some extra money I bought, the legendary Sigma ART 18-35. One of my favorit lens ever since, it solved all of my issues. But obviously I wish to have a telephoto lens, and I was about to save some money for the ART 50-100 1.8, but I found its price even on the used market a bit too much. But are you telling me, that this 50-150mm lens is almost as good in sharpness, and even have better focus breathing? For its cost its almost unbelivable. Im a bit sad, that there too few test video about this lens, however Ive found a Sony A6300 test video with this lens, and it was actually really convincing too. Even the 77mm diameter sound better, since most of my ND-s are in 77mm. So thank you very much for showing me this opportunity for filmmaking! And sorry for the long comment!
Hey hey again Larion! So glad you found this video! This lens is definitely a forgotten gem and I was really happy with its performance for the price. Even though its a slower lens, not a big deal for me as I was using this with my GH5 so I boosted it and unboosted my sigma 18-35. The light gathering at that point was maybe a little over 1/3 off. Hope you can find one of these lenses as they are slowly becoming harder to find in the past year!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you very much for the answer! So if Im right, you used this lens for Project E. 1337: Alpha too? Because if so, it seems very convincig!
I got this lense brand new in 2015 and still have with nikon d7100 , and i sold my camera because i just want nikon z6 or z6ii . So i want to know if i got z6 with ftz adapter is it going to work without no issue ? so happy i found your vid
Hey hey Andrew! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I've never used Nikon cameras so I'm not as familiar with their own Nikon to Nikon adaptors. As long as the adaptor transfers electronic data like aperture, then it should be able to do single focus for photography (results may vary). If you are wanting video continuous AF, that I cannot say as this uses an older type of focusing motor. The adaptor will need to take this into account when trying to keep focus working during video work. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
TLDR, thank you for the review! How Optical Stabilization works? Does it need any power from the camera? I'm curious if OS of 50-150mm f2.8 Nikon mount would function with Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro camera? With Ursa's original Nikon mount adapter.
Greetings Zilvinas Zusinas! Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question! The OS on this lens does require power from the camera, unfortunately from what I can tell on the Nikon F adapter for the Ursa Mini Pro, it doesn't seem to have any electronic pins to communicate or send power to the lens, so my guess is the OS most likely wont work if you have the Nikon version of this lens :( Hope this helps, i'll finish this convo on your second comment!
I have rewatched this video more times than I can count & it has made me order for the 50-150mm OS on the used market. However, how does the IQ & sharpness compare on the 50-100f/1.8 on bmpcc6k?
Hey hey Isaac! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The lens is sharp and will do well with the BMPCC6k. While the coating may be different from the newer 50-100, the times I've used it for feature films it has given me sharp videos even wide open. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I want to make video perfectly. so, you can give me a suggestion about Sigma Art 18-35mm F1.8 DC and sigma Art 50-100mm F1.8 DC. which is best for me? plz reply fast.
Greetings Towfiq, Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question! I would highly suggest you check out one of my lens buying videos here: czcams.com/video/XzHW45n_XqI/video.html I unfortunately cannot give you an honest answer to which lens is best for you because I do not have the same creative eye as you. This video breaks down lenses to its basic attributes on what they do and what I look for to determine my lens purchases. Long story short, lenses wont inherently make your video or film good, there are other skills involved. Someone with a $50 lens is more than capable to make a better movie than someone who spent $2000. I trained on a very affordable lens before I eventually got enough experience to justify a more expensive lens. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by, check back every Wednesday for something new!
For me, I'm primarily a "narrative filmmaker" working on "independent movies" (action movies) which means I do not require certain focal lengths compared to a wedding videographer or documentary filmmaker. Because of this, the Sigma 18-35 with a Viltrox EF-M2 and Viltrox EF-M1 adapter on my GH5 is the most useful lens for "me." Again this is "my" experience with "my" needs as a filmmaker, "my" situation may not be the best advice for someone that does not film what I film. I'm not sure if you're just beginning filmmaking or just wondering if the lens is a good upgrade, but if you're a beginning I would still highly suggest you check out the video I made above. Hope this helps!
Great as usual! This review appeared at right time for me. Going to buy a kit with this lens, 18-35 & the 300mm f/2.8 for my gh5 with the viltrox ef-m2.
Hey NewClanWG! Thank you so much for the kind words and checking out the video! With that combination you are pretty much set to film just about anything for a narrative set! What kind of videos do you have planned for that kit?
TLDR Filmmaker I’ve planned to film mostly cars etc for a vlog with a friend (b-roll), and other cinematic stuff, not sure when the 300mm will be used though, guess it has its place.. more often will the sigma 18-35, 50-150 & “Leica” 12-60 f/2.8-4 be used! Is there any chance that you tested out the 300mm f/2.8?
Cool! I think in terms of cars and vlogs, the Leica 12-60 would be more than sufficient with its focal range and fast AF performance with the GH5. Though if you find yourselves doing car shows that are in darker settings so people can show off their light kits on their cars, then you'll probably want to have the Sigma 18-35 with thee Viltrox. Id say for now, see which type of video work you'll be doing the most, if cinematic works are not as frequent, I would hold off on the 50-150 and 300mm for now. Those lenses don't start to shine until you have ample distance between you and the subject. I have not had a chance to test out the 300mm, I hope as my channel grows I'll be able to work with either BHphoto or maybe a camera/lens rental house to provide more videos for anyone wishing to know more. Fun fact, I found an unbranded Japanese 500mm f5.6 lens at a flea market two years ago, the lens is quite cool! I'll need to dig that lens back out and see what I can do with it, I only shot some initial tests back then just to see what the optics looked like.
TLDR Filmmaker probably I will film a few drifting events, there the 50-150 & 300mm might be a good choice. Otherwise they will be used for cinematics and some photography! Would be awesome to se a video with that 500mm lens! Also really nice with a youtuber like you who respond to the viewers comments, respect to you! ✊🏼
Wait...you mean to tell me you're not going to film the drifting up close on the outside corner at the end of a drift with a wide to normal lens? You're going to film from a distance?? Man...I am all 60 flavors of disappoint. Haha only kidding only kidding. Most definitely those lenses will come in handy for drifting! Here I thought it was just car show stuff, I was wrong. I'll definitely get to that 500mm for everyone. I know there's going to be a day where its going to be hard for me to get to everyones comments, but until then, I will always do my best to get to everyone. Thanks again for engaging in the comments and watching! Until next Wednesday!
Hey man, love your videos! Would you still recommend this lens as a good counterpart to the Sigma Art 18-35 for my bmpcc4k instead of the Sigma Art 50-100 or any other zoom lens choice in that price range? Regards Yannick
Hey hey Yannick! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! This lens is definitely the counter part to my Sigma 18-35 with a twist. I made a video about how I am leaving the whole speedbooster idea off of my Sigma 18-35mm because I simply don't need the wider end and the extra light does not affect my work as I get to light my scenes. So the booster is actually sitting on my Sigma 50-150. The reason I do it this way now is because it more or less bridges the missing gap between 35-50mm. Without the booster on my 18-35, it behaves like a 36-70mm. With the booster on the 50-150, it behaves like a 70-213mm. Then you take in the light gather equation of the two. the 18-35 is still technically at 1.8 and gathering that kind of light, while the 50-150 is now boosted to f2.0 (more or less) which closes the light transmission gap between the two lenses as well. Its not perfect, but its close enough to get these lenses to blend from one to the other. Of course if I need wider, I'll just slap the booster over to the 18-35 for that shot, no big deal. Lastly as this video shows, the 50-150 does not suffer the focus breathing problems of the 50-100. That may or may not both some people. But that is a plus for me. I also get the extra 50mm reach. I have OIS which will be handy for your BMPCC4k. So in my eyes, I actually prefer this lens to pair with my 18-35mm. They may be different generations of lens coating, but they are still similar enough and sharp. Hope this makes sense and helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
TLDR Filmmaker thanks so much for taking the time to give such detailed feedback man! I’ve been thinking for so long on what is the right Telezoom lens to the 1835. I’m suprised you mostly shoot at 36mm and upwards. Maybe I should considerate that too, as I use the 1835 mostly at 35mm with a speedbooster, as I prefer the look. I never shoot lower than 1.8 anyway. I think I’ll try to get my hands on the 50-150 then. Only found one used, but for a price of 525€ which seems like a good deal. Stay safe and healthy, too!
You're most welcome! Yea a lot of people don't understand why I consider 36mm good enough for my wides. Mainly because I'm a narrative filmmaker and a 24mm look is really only good for an establishing shot, not good for medium shots of actors. The difference of a 24mm to a 36mm FOV is maybe moving the camera 2ft back, I usually have space so thats not a problem to reframe, and it gives me more background compression to work with. Since you go to the 35mm end with a booster, that means you're feeling best at about a 50mm look (full frame terms) so if you decide to forgot and get a non-booster for the 18-35mm, you'll want to be around use 25mm (approx) to get the same look. Heres the kicker, because you don't use f1.8 all that often, this may be an advantage to you because when you go to 25mm to compose the shot, your depth of field technically gets a little deeper. So if you did shoot that 25mm @ f1.8, you'll technically have the DOF of f2.5 or so, while still gathering the same amount of light as f1.8. (aka, you don't need as much light to obtain the same type of shot as you did before with a booster shot at F2.8 or something). It's really weird how all this works out, but thats the magic of all this crop factor business while using faster lenses without a booster. Hope it kinda makes sense, feel free to experiment how to use the 18-35 with and without the booster! Hopefully you can find a 50-150mm OS version soon, until then keep creating!
Hey hey Bradley! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! It matches pretty well, maybe a hiiiiiiiiint warm, but not enough to ever see it. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Ru Lash! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Yes, this lens does work with the Viltrox Adapter in terms of AF for stills. There are some times where it misses focus the first time (depending on your AF Area settings) but usually will catch it on the second try. That being said I wouldn't count on it for fast moving subjects, works nicely for stationary subjects. If you do the occasionally video then the AF won't work that well as the lenses focusing system was not built for it as well as GH focus system doesn't track well enough. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one!
Hey hey Dimitri! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! A booster takes your lens image circle and focuses it to a smaller point, this only works for Full Frame or APS-C lenses that are going to a smaller sensor size. You can take a MFT lens and booster it down, its physically impossible due to the mount design. Canon EF is the most popular lens to be boosted to other sensor formats. The benifits of a booster is that your lens will actually become brighter at each F-stop, and you will regain the wider FOV when using a APS-C or MFT sensor. This is just a crash course description, hope it makes sense! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Sandesh! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! This is an APSC lens because the crop circle can only cover a APS-C sensor. However because it is not a canon brand lens, it is using a Full Frame EF mount. Meaning it can be used on a Full Frame camera (if it has a sensor crop mode) or APS-C sensor cameras that have either a EF or EF-S mount. Hope this makes sense and helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I'm not sure how well these lenses would pair to a Nikon body via an electronic adaptor. At minimum you should be able to control the Aperture of the lens, but Auto-Focus in photo or video modes might be hit or miss. You may want to look into the Nikon F mount of this lens as it was built in that era. Those lenses with a F to Z mount adapter may yield better results.
Greetings David! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Unfortunately I probably won't be getting/reviewing the Tamron 35-150 because of the variable aperture, generally I'd like to have lenses that stay constant. Another reason is that Tamrons, when I use an adapter into my GH5, have traditionally not worked well. When I used to own a metabones, Tamron lens chips would burn out, I lost two lenses because of it. So ever since I've stayed away from Tamron as I'm not sure why their internal chips are different versus Sigma and Canon that have had no problems communicating through an adapter. Its a shame as I do love Tamron lenses :( Thanks again for stopping by, see you in the next one!
Hey hey Cine Format! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The optics aren't technically the same because they are different focal zooms. However the coating might be very similar as the older APS-C lenses the generation before the new Sigma branding was very sharp. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I’m kinda confused with shopping for one of these. If it’s a Sigma SA Mount then will that work with the viltrox? Is this lens made in multiple mounts and if so which one should I buy if I’m going to use it on the gh5. Is this the same conversion as the 18-35 art? So confused haha. Thanks:)
Hey volverdesign! Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking some questions! - No, a Sigma SA mount will not work with the Viltrox EF-M2, you will need a EF mount lens for that adapter - This lens was made in multiple mounts, I personally always suggest people to purchase EF mount lenses because when it come to development of adapters, EF mount is always the first one to come out and have the most support. Do not purchase a Nikon len and then adapt it to EF mount because you will not be able to talk to the Nikon lens electronically. Fully functioning Nikon adapters are really not present in the market. - Yup, the conversion is the same as the 18-35 ART, both of these lenses were made for cropped APS-C sensor cameras Hope this helps! Thank you so much for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
You are most welcome! I will continue to do my best and keep putting out fun meaningful videos for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
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Hey hey T 2! Thank you so much for the kind words and the heads up, I was not aware! I'll be sure to switch that up in the next one. Thanks again for checking out the video and commenting! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
i'm affraid to get a misbuy, i'm searching for a sort of budget lens and this lens is in my price range, i have a 17-50 sigma lens, a 40mm sigma lens and a 150-600 C sigma lens, i want something in the same range, but i don't want to step back on quality, but the 50-150 range is ideal for the overlap between my other lenses. do i get a wrong buy if i get this lens, or is it a good quality lens in my range and get better pictures than a 70-200/300 tamron or 70-200/300 canon (standard issue) i have a canon EOS 77D (primairy) and a canon EOS 1100D (secondary)
Hey hey Runnerz Crew! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! This lens is the bigger brother of your sigma 17-50mm. If you love the quality of that lens, then you will love the quality of the 50-150 as they are from the same generation and meant to be paired with each other. In my opinion this lens is nice and sharp, I've done 4k video and some photography with it and I have had no complaints of the image quality. The colors look great, good contrast, and sharp wide open. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Greetings David! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! It is unfortunate that Sigma has discontinued this lens and I don't think they will make a true update to it because of the sigma 50-100 1.8. Be patient and check ebay often or have an alert setup, these lenses do pop up quite a few times throughout the year! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Hey hey Akhmadjon! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Unfortunately I won't be able to as I do not film with any Fuji cameras at this current time. Right now I use Panasonic and Sony. However potentially Fuji in the future as they keep developing their cameras! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey KD! Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting! I love this lens! I'm sad that Sigma didn't do a full update to this focal length design with their new ART line up, but I get it, it would be huge! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Greetings Walker & Ciara! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The Stabilization does work with the Viltrox or Commlite adapter, you need to make sure you have the OIS turned on before powering on the camera. While the IBIS does work alongside the OIS it will not work in the way of IBIS 2 where they work in conjunction so you may get some weird movements from the IBIS. I would suggest just using the IBIS only as it does a great job on its own with this lens. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and hope to see you in the next one!
Hey hey Richard! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Depends on what camera you are going to. There are smart adaptors that turn this EF lens into MFT, E, and RF. I have experience with the MFT and E mount smart adaptors that work. MFT (no booster); geni.us/RxDOe5 (Affiliate link) MFT with Booster: geni.us/IOkpM (affiliate link) Sony E (no booster); geni.us/GJBXJyR (affiliate link) Hope this helps. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
SO CONCERNING CLIP 3:15 TO MAKE YOUR FOOTAGE LOOK LARGER DID YOU USE THIS LENS IN YOUR VIDEO FOR IT AND DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO TUTORIAL I HAVE HEARD THAT A TELEPHOTO LENS REVEAL EVERYTHING BUT I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR A WIDE ANGLE LENS I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THE COMPRESSION
Hello again Chinelo! I did not specifically use this lens for that shot, that shot was done with a vintage Zuiko Olympus OM 70-150mm f/4 with a passive cheap speedbooster zoomed to 150mm. You are correct, I was playing around with lens compression by using a longer focal length while framing my subject as if it was a medium wide shot to achieve the look of that building being much closer and larger than the wider shorter focal length shots. I will eventually do a video series of how I compose shots and determine what focal lengths to use. But I do briefly talk about lens compression and what it looks like from many different focal lengths in my video here: czcams.com/video/XzHW45n_XqI/video.html Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and commenting!
CAN YOU SEND ME THE LINK OF THE MOVIE YOU SHOT THE SIGMA 50-150 WITH AND THE VIDEO SHOOT WAY BACK AND ZOOMING THE LENS IN ON THE SUBJECT GREAT VIDEO BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS
Hey hey Platform 7 Media! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The movie is currently going through some things and will hopefully be available soon. As for zooming in on a subject, if you are wondering if the lens is Parfocal, it is not, you will lose focus as you zoom through the range :( Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
have you or anyone tested the autofocus-continuous for this lens in Video? I know with some older lenses it is greyed out. I have been using Sony A6300 with Sigma FC-11, and will be transitioning to Fuji XT3 with Fringer adapter.
Hey hey That Guy, Dakota HD! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm not too sure how well this lens will CAF on a Fuji system, I have not gotten a chance to use a Fuji camera yet. This being an older generation Sigma lens, I'd assume you'd be able to just change aperture and it may possibly relay focal length information for IBIS. But as far as CAF performance, I generally would advice to get native lenses if CAF is the top priority. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
I got the cam and the lens, the CAF option isn’t blurred out, but indeed the older autofocus mechanism can’t keep up with the cameras depth calculations. Have you attempted CAF on your systems with this lens? I’ll probably have to get the 50-100 for safety 😭, but your video was such a great cheap-O experiment.
Is there any way to adapt this lens to a Panasonic S-Series L-Mount? I know it would show heavy vignetting depending on the focal length, it being an APS-C lens on a full frame body, but I wonder if an adapter, possibly a speedbooster could somehow lessen that issue.
Hey hey Starman! There are adaptors out there like Sigmas MC21. It'll give you control of Aperture and basic AF functions for photography. Video AF I am not for certain. You also have third party lens adaptors, Viltrox maybe, that will get you the aperture control but AF for video probably won't work well. AF for photography may be spotty compared to Sigmas Official adapter. No a speedbooster will not help, it will make the vignetting even worse. Speedboosters shrink the image circle instead of expanding it.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you for the quick reply. Don't know why I was even asking about the speedbooster, guess it's difficult to shake 10 years of being a M43 user. Good to know there are options to adapt the older 50-100 model to L-Mount. Too bad about the AF for video possibly being affected, since it's supposedly not that accurate to begin with in combination with Panasonic lenses.
Hey hey again BM Official! I do have some plans to do a review on the new GH5 firmware that was released today, but I won't be getting to it until after June 10th. I am on the final home stretch of the feature film I am D.O.P'ing for and want to make sure I keep the firmware of my camera consistent all the way through. Afterwards I will play around with the 2.3 firmware to see if does anything significant! Have you had any new thoughts towards the BMPCC 4k? Or do you still plan to wait before deciding?
I'm not sure at this moment in time. I'm sure you can connect it to the MC11 and use it like normal with aperture settings etc. AF for video or photo is probably where it won't work.
Greetings! I'm trying to decide between 50-150 2.8 os / 50-100 1.8 art or Canon's 55-250 is zoom lens, for photography. I have a Canon 80D. Which would be the sharper lens?
Greetings Christopher! Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question! Unfortunately I only work in the field of videography and not so much photography so sharpness is a bit subjective to me because I work in the confines of 1080 to UHD 4k resolution, and in most cases they are viewed on a Smartphone or Tablet so sharpness really becomes less of worry for me. The are a couple people on youtube that you can check out to see if they have a review on those lenses as they usually dive into sharpness tests etc. - Christopher Frost Photography - Tony and Chelsea Northrop - Fro Knows Photos (aka Jared Polin) I know Christopher Frost has looked at the 50-100 as well as Tony and Chelsea Northrop. Jarid Polin has looked at one of the version of 50-150 but I'm not sure if he look at my version with the OS. I'm going to assume Christopher Frost has looked at the Canon 55-250 because that gentleman has touched just about every modern lens I can think of. There are also some online resources that you can check, I think its called DXOmark. They usually have a library of tests done to lenses and camera bodies I think. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Christopher Bregita the 50-150mm is a great very sharp lens. Have buyed used and was clearly new. It my favourid lens, have also a sigma 17-50 2.8 os also a great and very sharp lens. Als i have canon 17-40 f4 L , 24-105 f4 and an 70-300 f4/5.6 L. Bot sigma's are very extreem sharp at f4
Hey hey haloboy456! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! If you are using this for AF needs, it will not be as silent as the Sigma ART lenses as it uses an older style of focus motors. You will hear similar clicking of the ART lenses as it makes micro adjustments. That being said, if you have a boom mic or lav mic on your talent, you're probably not going to hear this lens as this lens will be further back since its a telephoto lens. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker a human reply? That is what turns a casual fuel into a subscriber. Many thanks tldr filmmaker! Also thanks for the insight it genuinely helps. I'm still hunting for the best telephoto lens beyond my Sigmas for accurate and quiet video autofocus in these newer mirrorless bodies. These lenses can make it work, especially with distant audio, but for documentary run and gun on a single rig, still looking. This comment helps a ton.
Hahaha yup a real human reply! I try my best to answer all comments, even on old videos, when I have the time to do so. Theres probably going to be a day where I can't keep up. I personally have since moved onto Sony cameras with their E-mount design and lens options. One of the main reasons I left was because Panasonic wasn't giving me what I needed and I was done with adaptors for electronic lenses. So far I have not regretted my move and it's beginning to make more sense as the Canon EF mount seems to be legacy now and no one is developing for it. It does make me sad as now you're forced into one camp or another when it comes to lens options. For me it may hurt if Panasonic ever finally gets their act together with their AF, because that was the only thing I wish I could have with their cameras, and if it rivals Sonys I may switch back over time. For now the Sony lens lineup and feature set works well for my current needs.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Wow. Thanks for this reply. I really appreciate it. It acknowledges that for many if not most of us out here, if we can come into one body, that might be it 5-10 years. I was gifted an XT3 by a mentor that moved to XT4s and then eventually Sony. I am procuring his sets of Sigma 18-35 1.8s and a 50-100mm with Fringer EF Pro IIs which is objectively better than the old T3i and G7 with kit lenses I've had the privilege to have in the past. So I'm kind of forced to troubleshoot the idiosynracies of the Fugi platform and odd place EF legacy puts the still infamous and well performing Sigmas I now find myself in a position to purchase. But this will be it, probably for a while, so it matters, and insight like this in invaluable. Forever thank you from a thankful follower.
Is focus and focal range wheels smooth as in 50-100? - I have used Canon 70-200 and it isn't comfortable for video at all because wheels aren't smooth.
Hey hey again Viacheslav! I unfortunately have never used a Sigma 50-100 so I can't comment about the smoothness, if its similar to the 18-35mm then I would say the Sigma 50-150 has a little more resistance than the Sigma 18-35, but not by much, I can still pull my focus smoothly as you saw in the examples here when I did the focus breathing test.
Hi, I'm hoping you can help me with something since you are the only person I can find with this same setup. I have the Viltrox M1 and M2 on a GH4. I just received a used 50-150mm from KEH. The lens looks great, but there is a slight clunking noise when the lens is shifted back and forth. I heard this is normal when the lens is powered off, but it continues when the camera is powered on, resulting in an image shift as it clunks. Do you have the same clunking noise (off or on)? Is it possible the Viltrox isn't engaging the OS power, or do you think this is just a faulty lens? Thanks!
Greetings Tev! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question. I have two copies of this lens and both of them do not clunk when the lens is off or on. One quirk that I found to engage the OIS for lenses attached to the Viltrox was that you needed to have the switch already set to "ON" before you turned on the camera. If you had the lens "OFF" and then tried to engage the "ON" it would not work. Not sure if this is fixed with newer firmware from Viltrox as I have not updated mine since everything works fine right now, "don't fix what's not broken" Otherwise the clunking seems odd... I know the older Canon 24-105 f/4 clunked around, but my copies of the Sigma does not. My guess is its possibly a faulty lens, but if you have not updated the Viltrox Firmware and turned the OIS "ON" first before powering up the camera, I would try that first and see if that fixes anything. Hope this helps! Definitely check back and let the community know of your findings!
Thank you so much for the reply. I suspected as much. Since I only had a few days left to return to KEH, I processed the return just in case. Luckily, I found one for sale on Craigslist the same day. It was nice having played with the KEH lens because I knew what to look for. I tried the Craigslist one on my same set-up and definitely no clunking, on or off. So, yes, it seems the lens was broken. Great video BTW. This video was a major reason I decided to try and find this lens in the first place. I really didn't care for the focus breathing I saw in videos of the newer 50-100mm, plus it's longer, has optical stabilization, and the F2.8 seems like it will be plenty - the DOF can be made quite shallow and the focal reducer knocks it down to F2.0 for extra light.
You are most welcome! I'm glad you were able to find another copy of this lens that is operational! I'm also glad that this video was able to help you in your purchase decision, it's really a great lens, heavy, but pairs up nicely with the Sigma 18-35mm!
I just got this for my GH5s. I noticed Vignetting from 50 mm all the way to 150mm. Is that normal using a Metabones Ultra? I have the Sigma 18-35 as well but it only has vignetting only up to about 20mm past that was no issues. Is there a difference if taking pics vs Video?
Hey hey Deadikated! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I don't have too much experience with the Ultra version if maybe it has a slightly better crop. You're not using the Metabones for BMPCC are you? If not, make sure you don't have the OS on the lens turned on, as I've noticed that contributes to the vignetting. Lastly, yes, photography mode is different than video mode in which there is more sensor size being used, depending on your ratio you could have a lot of vignetting with a speedbooster. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for the response. I am using my GH5s and I know the sensor would be a bit of an issue so I am reconsidering saving some coin and selling and going with Viltrox.
If I'm not mistaken I think the GH5S sensor size was slightly bigger than the GH5 (that I use in this video) right? I'm not sure if the Viltrox would help, unless you are saying that you have the BMPCC Ultra booster that had a .64x crop reduction?
Hey hey Vlad! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The Sigma software most likely won't ever support this lens as this was before the ART series era. Somewhat a shame because SIGMA made some pretty awesome lenses during this generation (Yellow ring on the barrel) Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for comment. I have issues with this lens on my Nikon D7000. In few days can check it on my new Z50. The problem is that in different distances it has different accuracy with AF. I calibrated it as I could with AF-Tune and I have amazing so sharp images unless it's closer than 3-4 meters distance. If it's more I can take sharp images with opened aperture. :-(
Hey hey Framer of worlds! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! This lens is a little tricky because its focus ring is a bit on the thin side in general. I personally don't have a lens gear on it however if you have a caliper to measure the diameter of the lens, there are companies on amazon that have full 360 focus gear rings for various lens diameters that you'd have to just fit the lens through. geni.us/i6s8 (affiliate link, Amazon) I purchased one for my Olympus 12-40. All my other lenses with larger focus barrels I use this: geni.us/5Yvg (Affiliate link, Amazon). I think they have thinner ones, you just have to make sure its long enough for the diameter. I LOVE these, they don't just out of the lens as much, super solid, and have held up for years. These are more preferable for these larger lenses. If you have a small vintage lens you'll want the ones that jut out further like the one I have on my Oly 12-40 lens. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Seth! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! eBay would be the best bet to get this lens, the link I have in the description should show you what's currently available on the used market for Canon Mount. This lens does pop up monthly on eBay so you'll have to unfortunately wait for someone looking to sell theirs. Hope you can find one soon! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Michael! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, this should not have any problems working with the EF mount on the BMPCC 6k and 6k Pro. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Stupid question: I'm assuming with such a large lens, you are stuck with shooting just on a tripod, rather than run and gun with a gimbal or strong arming that beast?
Definitely not a single hand gimbal, maybe the larger dual handle gimbals for RED Cine lens setups? But I've definitely shot handheld with this beast and it wasn't too bad. Just make sure you remove the tripod collar so that your hand can hold the lens more comfortably while you film.
@@TLDR_filmmaker I'm assuming that recent dual handed Gimbals setup is you reviewed is your setup (the one with the action fight scene)? I might pick that up then. Just curious, Do you make commission off the products you review? I would love to support your channel that way. Least I can do since you saved me a quite a few grey hairs off my balding head trying to find the right gear these days. Lots of marketing without much substance when you get into the field.
Yup, that is the current gimbal I take with me, I like that I can go single handle or dual handle with a follow focus when I need it. oooooo S Singh, you just revealed to me that you don't make it to the end of my videos where I say if you use my amazon affiliate links it helps support me with a little commission hahaha! I do, but I don't seem to have a lot of Canadian viewerships so Amazon CA doesn't see me as a viable source for them. I truly appreciate you thinking about how you can support my efforts here, I am thinking about do a creative Patreon in 2020, just want to make sure I can offer some fun perks that makes sense. But until then, you being around, watching and commenting and engaging with others is all I could even ask for. Thank you so much for your support from the early beginnings!
@@TLDR_filmmaker I have to confess, I sometimes don't make it to the end all of the videos. It's the charm of this channel. You get the stuff you want out of the way first, then jump to the bit your really care about. I do the same things with owners manuals LOL. Pateron would be cool. Maybe take priority requests for what to review next? Not sure what else you can do . You content is very well packaged to begin with. Feel free to bounce off ideas off me as a sounding board.
Haha it's all good, as you said, my channel is made for many not to get to the end of the video. Will do, If I go for a patreon I'll most likely make a video asking what people think of certain ideas so I can make sure people that want to support get what they want when they contribute :)
Hey Ryan! I would honestly say that theres no major differences at the end of the day. In my first narrative film, that samples were shown in this review video, I had my camera ops deploy a Rokinon Prime, Sigma, Panasonic 12-35 on gimbal, and a vintage Olympus 70-200mm zoom, just to get all those shots you saw. While optical performance is definitely a concern and we'd like to make sure our images turn out sharp no matter what f/stop we're at. Generally speaking modern lenses are all acceptably sharp wide open, and we may actually find ourself closing down the lens to get the right depth of field for the shot or lighting conditions. We closed down the old vintage 70-200 and it sharpened up nicely for the specific shots I needed. TLDR: They are about the same, the difference would come in terms of contrast, color reproduction, subtle optical distortions, and flare characteristics. All of which our audience members don't wonder about and would never notice even if we told them to look for it. Hope this helps! Are you asking in terms of you're about to invest into your first set of lens/lenses beyond the kit lens? If so, definitely ask me any questions you'd like answer in my series of lens videos that are coming!
TLDR Filmmaker Thanks for the response! I'm asking because I was looking into buying the rokinon 12mm and was looking to see if I should get it over a sigma lens. I have the 18-35 And was wondering if the image quality is similar to that
Gotcha! Hmm... if the 18-35mm is on a speedbooster there would only be about a 4mm focal difference between the Rokinon 12mm and the Sigma 18-35, both optics are sharp and comparable so you may not gain too much from the Rokinon. However if you are planning on getting a single handed gimbal down the road, the small Rokinon 12mm would work well with its light weight and small profile.
Okay I know this is an old video but I really hope you or someone else in the comments can help me out with this, as it’s very important to me. Is this lens parfocal?
Hey hey Rhett! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I just gave this a go on my A7iii and while I can't say it's truly parfocal, its pretty darn close from what I could tell taking a picture zoomed out and zoomed in making sure I didn't touch the focus ring. I acquired focus first at the long end, took a photo, then zoomed out and took another photo to check. For video it's probably good enough, for photos probably not truly parfocal enough at the higher resolution. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Wow you went out and tested it really quickly? That’s the dedication everyone looks for with CZcamsrs but hardly ever gets. I ask because all of the pro telephoto zooms native on the GH5 have significant parfocal issues and do lots of strange things. If this is what I like to refer to as Affectively parfocal then it’s already miles ahead of the native glass from Olympus and Panasonic. Looks like this will be the lens that finally makes me get a speed booster for the system. Hopefully it pairs well with my Leica 10-25
I try my best to respond to as many comments as possible, the parfocal test was something I did not think about at the time. But now I know! "Affectively Parfocal" is a great way to put it! Now i'm not sure if a booster optic would change this because you'd need to make sure the optic itself is lined up correctly for the lens, so you'll have to do some testing and recalibrating of the booster optic to make sure. I know with my Sigma 18-35 back in the day when I used to use a booster, I turned the optic out of alignment with infinity slightly and it actually caused the lens to become affectively parfocal. I assume as long as the optic is calibrated to the 50-150's infinity point, then the lens should still act the same way boosted to a GH5.
Great Video! I have an APS-C Body (Nikon D5300) and I'm struggling between the Tamron G2 which performs well even on a Crop sensor Body or the Sigma 50-100 f1.8 Art which is built for Crop Sensor Bodies :( It's like Decent Sharpness+Longer Reach(Crop Factor:1.5x)+Beastly IS (Tamron) vs. Extremely Sharp+Shorter but Decent Reach+No IS+Faster Opening Aperture(Sigma). Probably will not upgrade my APS-C Body in 2-3 Years. Would appreciate any advice in my situation :) Thank you very much for your time!
Hey hey Mel! Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question! I'm assuming you're thinking about the G2 70-200mm 2.8? I guess the main question would be, is this for photography or videography? (I'm assuming photography) from a videography standpoint I haven't looked into the newer Tamron lenses so I'm not sure of their performance in terms of focus ring, focus throw, focus breathing. Tamron has always had some nice optics. In the grand scheme of things, it depends on your future plans. If you're staying in the Nikon camp you may or may not eventually step up to a full frame camera for your work. If this is the case, then I would get the Tamron as it would be the better longer term investment. Another plus side is if you're working conditions are mainly handheld, that VC on the Tamron will definitely come in handy for you to capture your shots, including combating the slower 2.8 by reducing the shutter speed to match the extra light on a 1.8. The Sigma is definitely more of a tripod or monopod lens, unless you're mainly shooting outside where you can up your shutter speed to cancel the motion blur. So in the end, it really comes down to what you see in your future and what you're goals you have for yourself with your creative work. When it comes to lenses they are an investment for the long term, not the short term. So I would write down a checklist of the ways you'd use the lens like. - Outside or inside primarily - Handheld or Stabilizers - Professional work or just for fun - Buy new or Buy used (This could be a factor cause used Nikon Sigma lenses go for cheaper than Canon Mount Sigma's) Once you figure out all your uses for the lens, with price factored in, you'll be able to get an idea of which lens will best suit you for your current and future needs. Hope this helps!
Thank you very much for the reply! Sorry about that I didn't mention the particular Model of Tamron. Yes I'm referring to the Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2 :) I'll be mainly be doing photography but would also be interested to tap in to the Videography World with this lens (Tamron or Sigma). I'll be staying in the Nikon Camp since I have Lenses which are for Nikon mounts. I have struggled in the past where in situations needed an Image Stabilization so that feature really gets me to lean towards the Tamron but the Sigma offers a solution for that for having a faster apeture opening so that made me having a hard time in deciding with what lens should I go for. The only thing that's holding me back to go for the Tamron is because they are built for FF cameras whereas I have an APS-C camera which is a perfect match for the Sigma lens and acts like a Full Frame 70-200 on an APS-C. It makes me worry about the crop factor being incorporated with the Tamron where a 70-200 f2.8 will perform 105-300 f4.2 on a Crop Sensor Body. Would like treat either of the lenses as the "Jack of all trades" lens in my arsenal for Landscapes, Events, Portraits,Vacation, etc. Thank you very much again and have a wonderful day :)
One thing to remember is that with the Tamron, even though it gives you the look of a f/4.2, it does not mean that the light gathering of the lens is a f/4.2, you will still get the same 2.8 light gathering but with a cropped in image. I personally think you may be better served with the Tamron 70-200 because you have the VC that can cancel out the 1.5 f stop advantage of the Sigma. And of course, you may eventually upgrade to a full frame camera as Nikon continues their development. A quick question, what other lenses do you have in your kit?
TLDR Filmmaker Thank you so much for this information. I'm starting to lean towards the Tamron G2. All I have right now is an ultrawide lens Tokina 11-16 f2.8 DX ii and the standard Kit lens Nikon 18-55 f3.5-5.6 vr. I mostly do landscapes shots and outdoors and now I want to tap in to the world of low light and portraits with a fast zoom lens and still having the capability to do other types of photography :)
You are most welcome! On a different note, I almost wonder if maybe you want to look into getting the G2 24-70mm f/2.8? It tops out right at a very popular 105mm portrait look. For me I haven't played to much in the longer telephoto range so I'm not sure what you have planned on the longer end with the 70-200mm. But just a thought, depending on what other types of photography you want to go for.
Hey hey Kenny! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It will work just fine on the BMPCC4k with or without booster. With the booster you may start to see a soft vignette a the telephoto end of the lens. But this has definitely been a great telephoto zoom lens for when I need it. Nice sharpness and contrast. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey, I was wondering how the sharpness is when wide open with a speedbooster since it can go up to f/1.8 with a 0.71x, it would beat the 50-100 1.8 hands down if it is still sharp and usable
The lens with a speedbooster is sharp wide open. We've used it on one feature film and it performed very well. The specific booster I used was the Viltrox EF-M2 mark 1. I have heard the mark 2 seems to be slightly different in the optic, but I do not have experience on what those differences are. If you go with Metabones, their optics are pretty solid and should keep things sharp for you. One thing to note. If you are only planning on using the booster and lens setup for video. Its definitely sharp. If you are planning to use it for photography, that will be a different story because of how much resolution you are getting. 4k resolution it looks nice and sharp.
Hey Both - Videography! Thank you so much for the kind words and checking out the video! I will continue to do my best and create fun meaningful content for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
Oh man thats a big change in camera gear for sure! I want to travel to Europe someday. I am familiar with the Netherlands, a friend of mine lives there now and one of my favorite choreographers of all time was the Artistic Director of Nederlands Dans Theater, Jiří Kylián. I hope to see that company perform one day!
This lens with it's power and weight needs stabilization......Good review otherwise .....It will work on a Sony full frame because the a99/2 and a99 "A" Mount models have an aps-c mode........Too bad SIGMA does not make this lens for the Sony "A" Mount, needs an adopter
Hey hey Howard! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It's definitely on the heftier side, especially on a GH5 body, the IBIS works well but if its being adapted electronically to a camera that doesn't have IBIS, the OIS in the lens does quite well! It really is unfortunately that Sigma discontinued this lens, the range essentially acts like a 70-200 and it's done very well for my needs in certain narrative filmmaking shots. Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one!
hey what's up Tl-dr filmmaker - long time fan here. I am currently on the GH5s with Viltrox adapter like you - and I hav ethis old Sigma lens but on a Nikon F mount. I have the first gen. In terms of the adapter I will need to go from Nikon F-mount, tot he VIltrox EF mount - will I need an adapter with electronic contacts?
Hey hey again Go Polaris! Thank you so much for checking out another video! Nikon lenses are a bit wonky when it comes to adapting their electronic lenses. As or right now you can adapter a Nikon F to EF mount however you will not be able to control the aperture blades, so you'll be stuck wide open (not always a bad thing). There is one F-EF adapter that I saw on amazon that can move the aperture blades manually, but it only works with Nikon G series lenses, not exactly sure if this Sigma would be considered in that camp. But it not having aperture control is no big deal to you, then you can just get a standard F-EF adapter and use the optics of your Sigma. I'm not sure how much this effects the GH5s, but it seems like recently Panasonic's new firmware did something weird with how it see non-electronic lenses. People that use full manual lenses with their Viltrox have been reporting that the camera will register a lens error when it didn't use to before. I'm still running old firmware and do not have this problem. Viltrox is aware of the problem and are working to fix it on their end to adapt to panasonic's new firmware. Hope this helps! Thank you so much for stopping by and commenting again! Always appreciate it!
Hi TLDR, been watching this video for some time now until I've finally decided to comment. I hope my comment is not too late as this video 5yrs old now. (1) I have been thinking of buying a sigma 50-100mm f1.8. With your nice video, am no-longer considering buying it. (2) I have that sigma 59-150mm f2.8 IS version, not used it yet but will be pairing it with a Blackmagic BMCC 2.5K on a forthcoming project soon. Your review gives more confidence 3. I have bought another Blackmagic, URSA 4K (original big one) and been thinking of buying a sigma 70-200mm f2.8 sport to put on it. Reason is that I saw some technical review on blackmagic website which argued that a full frame lens on a super 35mm crop sensor camera performs far better than a crop sensor lens on a crop sensor body. What do advise? Should I save up for a full frame 70-200mm or I should just get another 50-150mm? Thanks
Hey hey Hussein! The main reason Full Frame Lenses are better on a S35 sensor is because you are now only sampling the sharp center image of that lens. Other reasons included that resolving power on a full frame lens is higher. The one thing to remember is if you decide to save up for the 70-200, that is going to be a 105-300mm Full Frame equivalent on your S35 sensor, a significantly longer telephoto reach. It will not behave the same as your current 50-150mm. (which is essentially a 70-200 full frame equivalent) Will you notice a difference in image quality between the two? Maybe only a little bit when it comes to corner and vignette performance. In my preferences I do not care too much about corner performance when it comes to video because I never frame my main subject in those areas. For photographers its a different story. Hope this information helps in determining which lens is better for your needs.
Thanks for this video. Is auto-focus on this lens working with the Viltrox EF-M2? I've used an old (not the current version) Sigma 70-200 and it does a lot of weird things when using push AF. Sometimes, the aperture will just close and I had to remove and reinsert battery as the aperture just locks up. Sometimes it would focus, sometimes it won't respond at all.
Hey hey again Clyde! Thank you so much for checking out this video deeper in the archives! I have not experienced that with the Viltrox and Sigma 50-150 lens. It seems to focus pretty well and accurately. There's only a couple things I can think of to try and or why yours may being acting weird. 1) When you power on the GH5, you must make sure the AF selection knob on your Sigma lens is already set in the AF position instead of MF. If you have it set to MF and then slide it over to AF, the camera doesn't really distinguish the mode being switched. 2) Could possibly be a firmware thing. I'm actually still on older firmware for my GH5 and Viltrox because I was still on a project when I got these items. So I didn't want to break anything that was already working. 3) If none of these things solve the problem, I would also give Viltrox a hollar. I haven't emailed them personally, but I hear they've been decently responsive to inquiries. Worth a shot! Not sure if any of these things will help, but hopefully it does! Let me know!
TLDR , This lens is awesome. I'm enjoying it so much. Paired it with the XT3 and Ninja V. I found this video when I was considering the 50-100. instagram.com/p/B0muZB5grg7/
Hey hey Mattieau! Thank you so much for checking out this video and hitting me up on both here and instagram! That's a killer setup you got going for sure! One of these days I'll finally be able to use my Sigma 18-35 and 50-150 on an actual super35 sensor instead of needing to put it through a booster, I love the lenses natural performance without anything additional! How do you like the Ninja V? It's on the list of things I know will get eventually, but love to hear as many people's experience with it on different camera systems! Thanks again for stopping by! I'll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey, and thank you for sharing the info man. Made a huge difference in my setup. I'm loving the ninja V so far. Having a kit that I can keep quite small or build out is good. The quality from the Ninja is solid and prores directly on drive saves so much space and time vs transcoding everything. ( I also just noticed I'm responding from my other channel lol)
You're most welcome! Thank you so much for your thoughts on how the Ninja V works in your setup! That's definitely one of the things I'd like to have in terms of having Prores files ready to go. My hope is that the Ninja V continues to be developed as I eagerly await for Panasonic to work with Atomos to get prores Raw out of the HDMI from either their S series or GH series! Haha it's all good, I hope to have another channel eventually to review movies, I watch so many movies for my own studies, but running two channels at the moment would be a bit much. Hopefully sometime in the future! Thanks again for engaging, I'll see you in the next one my friend!
great format. i wish every video on youtube had a tldr section at the start. liked. commented. subscribed.
Hey hey Jonathan!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I'm so glad you enjoy this format! I can't always do a TLDR section depending on the video type, but generally my "review" videos will always have TLDR Section!
Thank you so much for the kind words and subscribing! I truly appreciate it! See you in the next one!
Previously I thought that 50-100 is the best companion to my 18-35, but after your video I changed my mind. Thanks!
Hey hey Viacheslav!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
It took me awhile to debate which I wanted, the focus breathing of the 50-100 is what sort of killed me as I didn't want to deal with that too much even though I usually don't get bothered by it, but it was a bit much. This 50-150 really sings with the 18-35 when you add a speed booster to it. It fulfilled the missing focal length between 35-50mm and drops the aputure down to f2.0 which is much closer to the F1.8 of the 18-35 (no booster). These two lenses in that specific combination is my MFT narrative filmmaker kit of choice.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Bought this lens for $400 in almost immaculate condition. It may be heavy but I love this lens.
Hey hey Kevin!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
That is an absolute STEAL! It's a really underrated lens, does very well for video and I'm sure for photography too. Definitely a heavy one for sure. Enjoy it and have fun!
Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
And another important thing about the Stabilization is how it looks in motion? For steady shots it might be ok. But mostly, it suffers from stuttering and similar issues during the camera panning.
The OS in this lens does a great job with how it handles movement while staying still or panning and tilting slowly or quickly! I didn't really see any stuttering issues or even hear optical element knocking around when I whip panned.
Hope this helps! Thank you so much again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
He's absolutely right. I've been using it's earlier cousin (Sigma 50-150 APO DC HSM, Nik mount) for years alongside the Sig 18-35... first with my AF100 and GH4, now with my Sony FS5. It has no lack of sharpness, and that version is actually about the same size as the 18-35. Boosted, that effective ~35-105/2 range is a perfect pairing.
Here's the crazy part... I still use it with a Speedbooster (MetaBones) on my FS5 in certain situations. It absolutely vignettes, BUT, the effect is slight and feathered vs. a hard vignette. For something like a closeup or interview, it's an effect I'd probably add back in post anyway.
Now, I've also tried it on a Nikon D850 forced into FX mode. With that sensor pairing, the vignette is hard and unusable... so depending on your camera, YMMV.
Greetings Kevin!
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This lens is definitely a golden gem that I think got forgotten somehow, I only wished that its little brother, Sigma 17-50 f/2.8, had a similar long focus throw. That was one of the first lenses I paired to my GH4 and while it produced amazing images with the speedbooster, the focus throw was about 30 degrees and extremely hard to follow a subject :( But its ok because we got the Sigma 18-35 instead!
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I just got this lens on the used market for my GH5 for $425, and I love it!! Thank you for this excellent video; I truly appreciate all of the effort you've put into all of your content--it is all great!!
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That is so awesome! That's a great deal and $200 less than what I bought it for at the time! Enjoy it and have fun creating shots with it! Until then I will keep doing my best with my content!
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So glad to finally find one more video for this lens. Will be shooting a review of it myself soon. I love this lens!
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I really love this lens, quality, and what it does for video work! I wish that the baby brother Sigma 17-50 f2.8 had the same design with a longer focus throw and internal zoom. If that was the case, I probably would have just stuck to a few sets of these lenses for video, Sigma really has done well since that generation of lenses to now!
Definitely let the community here know when your review goes up, would love to check it out!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker wow! Thank you so much! Btw you're format is brilliant! Surprised I hadn't found your channel before. I personally love the idea of lenses with internal zoom when it comes to keeping dust away from the internals. True that about the 17-50. And thanks a ton for the vote of confidence man! You're a star!
You are most welcome! I'm still fairly new with youtube, I restarted this channel under this name and format early this year to see if people enjoy it and gain any benefits. Thank you so much for all the kind words!
@@TLDR_filmmaker that's wonderful!!! And of course. You're up there in my books with the greats in this niche. Keep doing your best!
I bought one for my canon R7 in the second-hand market.
After my testing, the sharpness of this lens far exceeds that of the Shima 50-100 f1.8 art, especially in the corners. The OS is perfectly compatible with the R7, and the autofocus is fast and perfect。
That is amazing! So glad you were able to find this lens, they are quite sparse these days. Very interesting to hear that it performs a bit better than the 50-100. I love this lens, unfortunately haven't gotten a chance to use it much since switching to full frame.
this lense is thrid generation of 50-150mm f2.8 that manufactured from 2011 to 2014 (discontinued)，the second generation that without OS was produced in 2008.i have both them.
Interestingly, the second generation lens is also sharper than the 50-100art, especially in the corners,and the R7 body OS can also work perfectly.
But there is a problem with the second-generation's autofocus work.
In photo mode, its focus is behind the focus point when you zoom in to view the image, and it can't be corrected by camera body AF fine-tuning or repair.(I have also tested it on 90d and 5d4)
There are also similar issues in video mode.
glad its manual focusing can work normally and get sharp images.
I found three methods to focus correctly
1.use MF
2.first use AF mode (one shot),half press the shutter,then MF it until clear
3.Using Focus Surround Mode，you will get amazing image
In addition, in video mode, when the aperture between 50mm to 70mm is below F4 and the aperture between 70mm to150mm is below F5.6, its autofocus can actually work normally! It looks like a usable lens that 50-150mm f4-5.6@@TLDR_filmmaker
I bought this lens in early 2017 which is almost exactly 5 years ago and this is STILL my ABSOLUTE favorite lens that I own. The image is pin sharp and the F stop makes me able to shoot in low lights while with longerr focal length. For a stage photographer, this is a GREAT lens. The extra 50mm focal length reach is absolutely necessary for stage photographer while F stops might not matter that much. Yes, there are often low light performances but I think zooming is more important since stage lights helps a lot.
Fortunately, I could get a new one since in 2017 it has already been discontinued. I was looking for it all around the web and this one I think is the last new one available in my country lol. The fact that it was never a popular lens for photographer while it is the APS-C equivalent for 70-200 with great IQ is a wonder. But if you want to get it, I assure you that this is a good purchase.
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Totally agree, this lens is quite magical and I love its pairing with the Sigma Art 18-35mm. For cinematographers, these two lenses for S35 is probably the best out there from the sharp image, great focus gear, and the barrel does not extend, simply amazing! It looks like the OS version is now very very rare, I don't see any available in my country either. I definitely won't be selling mine, this lens can work with me for many years.
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I can't speak to the original 50-150 (mk1 version) but I have to say after recently purchasing a used 50-150 mk2 non-OS (and having owned the OS version a few years ago) that the mk2 of this lens definitely should be worth any videographers consideration if you can find a good used copy. Literally about half the weight of the OS version, near beer can size and it still delivers a sharp image (not that I'm particularly interested in absolute tack-sharpness for video anyway).
It does suffer from a bit more focus breathing than the OS version though judging from he examples in this video, but overall I'd say the mk2 is a perfect companion to the 18-35 1.8 if you're looking for a similar size and weight across both lenses and don't see the lack of OS as a dealbreaker :)
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Awesome to hear that the Mk2 version is still a contender! For me OS was a big deal so I really hunted down this lens haha. I do have a quick question about the Mk2, since the lens is smaller does it still have the internal zoom design? Or does the MK2 barrel extend out?
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey mate! Yes the MK2's zoom still has the same internal design and does not extend. If I were to liken it to anything in terms of build and ergonomics I would say it's a lot closer to the 18-35 1.8, though physically it's still a longer lens.
Thank you for the video.
Im thinking about getting this lens.
I have GH5 and 0.71x speedbooster.
Is Is there any vignetting?
Hey hey again Filip!
I talk about vignetting at 4:24, it only shows up at the extreme 150mm range with IBIS turned on.
@@TLDR_filmmaker
I must of skipped it, thank you.
Does Sigma 50-150mm OS work with GH5, sorry?
And does it makes sence getting Sigma 50-150mm with out OS?
Hey, did you happen to buy it? Since with a speedbooster the aperture of the 50-150mm 2.8 can go up to around 1.8 (because of the 0.71x) I was wondering if it is still usable (sharp) at that aperture? If it is then it would beat the 50-100mm 1.8 hands down.
I have the first version of this lens and it is as sharp as a lens can get on a Nikon 24 MP sensor. If your primary concern is videography rather than still photography then OS is desirable otherwise, they all do the same job.
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Awesome! Glad to hear from someone that has the V1 lens. Back in the day I couldn't find too many video reviews on the V1. Still rocking two of these OS versions, love how well they perform!
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Just picked one of these up on eBay for my C100. Very excited to try it out! I currently use the 18-35 as my main lens and found myself wanting:
1. A telephoto option
2. An OS version
I was torn between getting a 24-105 F4 or the 50-100 1.8, but I think for my needs this will be a better choice than either of them!
Thanks for this great video, otherwise I would never have known about this perfect lens for my needs.
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This lens will definitely shine on your C100 paired with the 18-35! A nice full useful range and that OS when you need it :D
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GREAT !
i have 18-35 and this lens for my m43 system.Crop sensor lens is the best for m43,m43 lens is ok but when you have both crop sensor(canon)and m43 setup,the crop sensor lens can give you extra zoom range and much more cheaper than the same on m43.Giving example of this lens comparing with Olympus 40-150.Although 40-150 is smaller and 40-150 to be 80-300, while the 50-150 would go to 100-300 and having image stablizion weight 400g more and much more cheaper even on second hand.Because i don't have 40-150 so i can't compare the quality these two lenes but 50-150 is quite good compare to my other m43 lens at least at 2.8 aperture i can fully open and no problem at all!
And at first i am considering do i need to get 50-100/1.8 or this lens.For extra 50mm(100mm) is more important than 1 stop of extra light because this lens has image stablizion .For the creamy bokeh,i can zoom all the way into 150mm/2.8 compare to 100/1.8.While the image quality i think it is likely the 50-100/1.8 is going to win but it is not much by surfing on dxo website.
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Totally agree, I think when it comes to the world of videography, having the sharpest craziest lens isn't as important since we're almost moving. Photography I can understand why someone wants the best lens possible...but...I feel theres not as many reasons to shoot wide open as there is to shoot closed down to f/4 or f/5.6.
What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
I have owned this lens since new and it is the sharpest lens in my bag period. I wish they had a 17-50 to match it's sharpness. Yea they have a 17-50 2.8 but it's not as sharp as the Canon 17-55 2.8.
My only issue over the years was the OS system goes bad after time. Since 2014 I had it at Sigma to replace the OS twice and it is at Sigma as we speak to change it yet again. I was thinking seriously about getting the 50-100 or a 70-200 to replace it but the amount of work I use it for (weddings and portraits) makes it hard to let go. I just hate for the OS to go out again in 2 or 3 years
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Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! It's definitely such a wonderful lens, really underrated and definitely nearly unknown for dslr filmmakers. I have two copies of these, the OS seems ok? but I don't use it because of my GH5 IBIS. Eventually if I ever get a Panasonic S1 (full frame with APS-C mode) this lens will be transitioning to it and I can't wait to use the lens on the sensor size it was meant for :)
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Just bought this lens for my GH5, based off your recommendation super excited.
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Dude I'm excited for you!!! Enjoy the lens when it arrives and create some wonderful stuff with it! Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
so, hows the lens working out?
The last point you make, about 1.8 vs. 2.8 is great in my opinion. With such a shallow DOF one can get object's nose in focus and ears blurred, for example. That is not what people want most of the time :)
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There are definitely moments where you can deploy some techniques to keep all of your subject in focus at f/1.8, unfortunately it's harder to achieve unless there is plenty of space to get the right composition :(
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I’m thinking about which telephoto lens I should get in the future. This looks like a decent option. How would you compare the sharpness between this and the 18-35mm?
Hey! Thanks for engaging. I haven't done enough film work to warrant my thoughts to this question. But coming from a photography stand point and since I have experience with the 18-35 and this one as well, they both have impressive resolving capabilities and while I only do real world studies, keeping that in mind, both lenses are incredibly sharp for my humble needs. From a filling background but it always helps to have a decent focus ring grip and focus throw which I feel the 18-35 does better owing to the Art series features. But going by what's said in this video, the 50-150 is great too. Hope I could help in some way.
Hey hey again Nate!
The sharpness is quite good from what I can tell and I'd say is comparable between the two lens generations. However I may be at a disadvantage in terms of doing a full optics comparison as I only have my GH5 to go off of (non-boosted) instead of C100 or C200 that you have to film with.
But all in all I think this lens, given its added 50mm reach, onboard OIS that works really really well, puts it ahead of the Sigma 50-100 in terms of deployability for me.
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2022, i found one of these for photography on ebay still in its box in brand new condition for £450 on ebay, fantastic lens, the optics on it a top notch, sharp at ƒ2.8 razor sharp at ƒ4
only thing i didn't like about it was the ability to pop the lens collar off even when fully done up fo i use a pu plate on the ef to efm adapter, i use the pu plate as a hand hold point so i didn't want to be hand holding it with a collar that had the potential to pop open.
i also use the EX 85mm ƒ1.4 lens hood with this lens instead of the super long one it comes with, its a bit long in crowds lol
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So glad you were able to find this lens! It is definitely one of my favorites. Interesting about the lens collar popping of, both of my units do not have this problem after I tighten them down. Perhaps the lens collar you have is defective and not locking together before you tightening it into position?
Haha yea the lens hood is ridiculously long, I rarely use it, glad you have a better solution for it!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker in general use the collar is fine, its just the way that the locking screw is sping loaded it can still be popped open with force, the chances are very unlikely as it is a tight lock, mine works as it should but for my doing walk about hand held zoo stuff any chance is still a chance
its a lens i have been recommending to people, shame its not still around much
i did email sigma japan to ask why they hadn't made an ƒ1.8 to fill in the gap between the 18-35mm and 50-100mm ƒ1.8 and they said its a lens we can see peing very usful and that they would pass on the info to the planning department
so my take on that is if enough people ask it might get made
a 24/35mm to 50/70mm ƒ1.8 would be a great lens, certainly one i would love
even if its just a short 35-50mm ƒ1.8
I bought this lens over a year ago (and this video helped with that decision). I have used the 50-100 1.8 previously and like you mentioned in the video it the focus breathing was way to heavy, plus I use a shoulder rig and having stabilisation is pretty necessary for telephoto lenses. So I was super excited to be able to pick up one of these lenses in EF mount for my Blackmagic Pocket 6K. But long story short a couple of weeks ago this lens was misplaced and was left outside in some long grass for 2 weeks. When I collected it there was no sign of it ever being out in the weather. I apprehensively put it on my camera and straight away the iris clicked into the right f-stop and the image stabilisation worked! I couldn't believe it! Very lucky! And a testament to just how well constructed this lens is. Just to be sure I'm going to take it in for a professional check up/service.
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So glad this video helped with your decision over a year ago and glad you were able to retrieve the lens and that its still working! I now have acquire two of this lens and I love it still. Does a great job with photography too!
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I have the version II (without OS and tripod collar), sharp enough up until 122mm, after that 2.8 is really soft wide open. The AF is on the slow side on a nikon dslr, But a half the price and weight, it might be a good option aswell
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Awesome to know about Version II non-OS version! It's quite an older lens all things considered, I can't image the AF would work too well for video. Still a wonderful lens and focal range for people filming on Super 35 sensors!
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The sigma 50-100 lens could be 1/2 parfocal, it doesn't change focus when zooming but breathes when focusing. I would like to know if the 50-150 loses focus or not when zooming. Thnks for the video.
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The 50-150 looses it slightly as well.
Awesome idea! Really like your way of giving fast and valuable content! I'm considering this lens for my new XH-1. I couldn't be more happy with my Sigma 18-35 and the fringer Pro adapter. Maybe the Sigma 50-150 would be the perfect addition! I was wondering: Is this lens really parfocal? I've read it somewhere.
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I definitely feel the 50-150 is a great companion to the Sigma 18-35, especially if you have an electronic adapter but don't have a camera with IBIS, that this lens does have OIS in it.
I just gave it a test with a non-boosted adapter to mimic your XH-1, unfortunately its not parfocal on my setup, its slightly off from focus when I zoom to and from the extremes. However this could potentially be the problem of the cheap non boosted adapter in which the flange distance is ever so slightly off that it could hinder the parfocal ability.
I know with my Sigma 18-35 when I had a boosted adapter, I adjusted the booster optics and it made my Sigma nearly parfocal, not perfect, but pretty darn close. Unfortunately this wont be possible with your XH-1 because the sensor size is already the same for these Sigma lenses.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Damn! It's so nice that you take this crazy amount of time to answer to all the questions of your audience in detail! Thank you so much, I couldn't get an answer to the parfocal question anywhere but here!
You are most welcome! I try my best to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. I'm sure one of these days I won't be able to keep up as my channel continues to grow, but for now, I will continue to do my best! Glad I was able to help!
Speaking of sigmas, I am having a HOOT with their monster 50-500 (OS, HSM) that I use speedboosted on my cameras. It's actually super usable speedboosted for s35 (feels like 35mm) or natively on full frame. Surprisingly like your 50-150 it has zero breathing. It's wild I don't know how they do that. I also have the 18-35 and 50-100 as tempting as the 50-150 is I'll keep the 50-100 for consistancy as it's always paired with the 18-35. 50-150 non-speedboosted for me is not as usable as the 50-500 speedboosted which "feels like" a 35-350mm which is usable as a semi wide like a Canon 30-300.
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For sure if you already have the 50-100, just keep it going! I think my friend had a 50-500 that was quite the canon in comparison to my lenses haha!
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thanks man.. im going to buy this lens.. it's cheaper than 50-100 and has lowest focus breathing.. I dont think 2.8 is a big problem instead of 1.8.
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So glad this video was helpful! I don't think its a big deal either between 1.8 and 2.8 at the telephoto length especially if you put a speed booster on it for M43 sensors. I no longer use a booster on my sigma 18-35 and only boost the 50-150. This essentially gives me two lenses that go from a 18-105mm with the only difference being f1.8 and f2.0. Its perfect for M43 shooters!
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Sigma 50-100 has fast focus for photography + much sharper wide open. Unique lens flares. Cinematic focus pulling pressure & and it has chromatic abberation (maybe lower). Im trying to find a video that compares 150mm with 200mm (how much zoom diffrence). Sigma 50-100 can be also a 100-200 with no speedbooster ;) Nice Video :)
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Even though I ended up going with the Sigma 50-150...lord knows I still want the Sigma 50-100 just to have a true matched pair!
The 150 on a booster reaches a theoretical full frame 225mm, times like this I wish I had a full frame camera to give a definitive look between the two setups! I'm so tempted on the A7iii, but will wait to see what the A7siii tries to do to compete.
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It would be interesting if sigma made an e mount version of this lens. Better focus speed and focal range I would trade for the 1.8 , but that’s just opinion
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I agree, would have been awesome to see some of these legacy lenses continue their life with the new mirrorless mounts that works for Sony E and even MFT. As much as I love that there are adapters that allows these other format lenses to work, there something to be said for native mounts!
But...not sure if you're a MFT shooter, but with Panasonic teaming up with Sigma for their new "S" series full frame line, I'm interested to see what Sigma brings to the table or if they are just simply creating L-mount versions of their current FF line of lenses.
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I look for one but its difficult to find only one
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It is very difficult to find them now, very rarely do they show up on the market :(
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approximately first 40 seconds of this video made me subscribe to this channel .... nice work
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Hi TLDR, nice video...makes me want to get one of this lenses. Been looking for it on ebay and couldn't find the ef version with optical stabilization. Are there any sites you recommend for looking at lenses where i might find it? thanks for your awsome content!!
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Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Unfortunately Ebay and maybe KEH are the only places you'll find this lens second hand. Not sure if you're in the USA, I see them come up regularly in the USA territory.
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Hey nice Video!
Do you know anything about the compatibility with the second version of this lens with the Viltrox speedbooster and the GH5? Does IBIS work?
Thank you!
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While I don't have direct experience with the 2nd version of this lens + viltrox on the GH5. The IBIS and aperture will most likely all be fine due to Sigma having always done well with its electronic protocols while Tamron have had weird communication through adapters with their older lenses (newer Tamron EF lenses don't seem to have the problem). So I wouldn't be worried based on Sigma's track record with their older lenses and electronic adapters.
However if AF for photos is your main needs, then each lens will vary in terms of AF performance. Native lenses would definitely be the best way to go.
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Sigma 70-200 DG OS might be a better alternative, especially if you also shoot Sony full-frame
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Very true, back when this was filmed I was still very much in the Panasonic GH5 camp, now I am in the Sony FF camp. However I have not gotten rid of these two lenses as I do still us the GH5 and will continue to use these lenses on either my A7III in Crop mode (will eventually upgrade to A7iv)
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Since 50-150 is so hard to find these days, if you ever decide to sell it, let me know :)
Nice video and explanation, can you please tell me why it’s not going to work on a full frame body?
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The reason this lens won't work on a Full Frame Camera is because it was originally made for a sensor size that is smaller than a full frame sensor. While this lens is capable of being mounted onto a regular Canon 5d or 6d, you will see a circle with the image in it and the rest is complete black.
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earned a sub my man. gonna buy this with the sigma adaptor for a sony a6500. maybe itll have better luck with the ibis at 150! I'm mostly video too so I'm happy you covered that mostly, most everything ive found online has been about photos
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If you are talking the official Sigma MC-11 adapter, I would double check to see if someone has use this lens with it. The reason I say this is because that adapter is mainly for the newer generation of Sigma Art lenses and it could have some trouble with its older generation lenses (weird I know). If this is the case you may want to go with some other 3rd party adapters where they have some basic profiles that will at least handle the lenses aperture adjustments and transferring focal length data to the a6500 for IBIS purposes.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker gotcha! do you think the metabones would work fine if not? seems like the higher quality of the two, just wanted to go with the sigma because i have the 18-35 1.8 already so buying a sigma adapter for two sigma lenses seems logical
Metabones should be fine as well as Commlite and Viltrox should all do the trick.
Love it on my D500.
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Truly a beautiful lens that I wish Sigma rebirthed and updated into its current ART line, but I'm not complaining as the used prices on this lens and performance is wonderful!
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same here! also have the Nikkor 17-55mm f2.8
Being discontinued, is this really good? Can you provide sample images?.. I'm want to buy this instead of 50-100 f1.8 art because this lens has OS.. BTW, I'm just a hobbyist.. thanks!
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I just have a couple questions, are you looking to use this for video or more for photography? Also I am on the GH5 micro43 system, will you be using it on a native APS-C camera body or something smaller with an adapter like I am?
Because I do mainly with videos, the optical quality is not the thing I look for because all my pictures are moving constantly, so sharpness is not a big deal for me. This lens is sharp and matches up with my Sigma 18-35 quite well. I've used it on a feature film shoot, but I don't have access to the footage yet until the movie is released later next year.
If you're using it for photography, there are a couple videos of the non-OS version that you can check out. From what I can remember people enjoyed using it for photography and this version of the lens only gets better from the original non-OS versions.
Hope this helps!
I'm considering one for my dx body. Thanks the review!
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You are most welcome, this lens is a lot of fun! Hope you get one soon!
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TLDR Filmmaker yep, can't wait to try it!
Please review on photoshoot and vedio of sigma 50-100 f1.8 on Canon R7
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I wish I could, if someone is able to supply me with those units for a review then I can. Otherwise I don't have the means test and compare every combination possible to other filmmakers needs.
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yes but 2.8 aperture? That isn't so great on GH5...
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I think it depends on what factors you're considering the 2.8 aperture for,
1) If we're talking about overall light gathering of the lens, then yes its definitely not a great as a 1.8 aperture. However I've learned that even though lenses can get down to insanely wide apertures to concentrate as much light to the sensor as possible, it's a pain to film with such a shallow depth of field and you sort of loose composition when the entire subject is not in focus but only a part of the subject.
2) For narrative filmmaking I have a slight luxury of having time to light a scene so that I can comfortably shoot at f2.8 or higher depending on my depth of field needs. For a documentary filmmaker this could potentially be a problem, however this problem has been lessened with cameras like GH5s and A7s series.
I think with the rise of DSLR cameras for filmmaking, some filmmakers are mistaking what the aperture is really for and instinctively think F2.8 - 5.6 are undesirable lenses. If shallower depth of field is what you're going for in your shot, then 2.8 could be a limitation depending on what focal length you are using. If uncontrolled low light is what you mainly film in, then the aperture should not be the adjustment you're looking for rather you should invest in a camera that lives in higher Native ISO's. A well selected camera body in these situations are worth more than a lens thats able to get down to f1.4. Having both would be the ideal setup, but if I had to go with one or the other I would selected a Low Light Camera body.
Somewhere along the line I believe filmmakers mistakenly started gauging their exposure through the use of aperture adjustments instead of using lights or using a low light camera that is able to operate cleanly at higher ISO's. When you look at larger budget films they are usually filming at f5.6 and only reserve 2.8 and below for special shots, but definitely not the entire film.
I hope this helps clarify a little bit where I come from in terms of my opinions on this lens and the lenses I select to use in general. Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new! What kind of films do you enjoy filming?
Thanks. Preventing the vignetting, shoud I turn off the IBIS of gh5 and lens? or one of the two?
Greetings 소나무!
Thank you so much for watching the video and commenting!
Yes, to prevent vignetting at 150mm you need to turn off the IBIS and on the lens. However I have realized that the vignette only really showed up in darker scenes, when you are outside in a bright scene it doesn't seem to show up as much. Hope this helps!
Nice vid and cool to see to some love for this lens. Hope that Sigma takes notice;-) I have the non-stabilized version II and think it's the perfect compromise of compact size and IQ. Lack of stabilisation is becoming less an issue with stabilised sensors. Great times for photo/video :-)
Hey T. Linssen!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
This lens is definitely a hidden gem, I feel, I'm sad that they discontinued it.
Its definitely a great time for photo and video with IBIS! I already have steady hands so having the IBIS lets me pull off some great shots very quickly!
Thanks again! What kind of videos or photos do you enjoy taking?
what adapter are you using with the version II? I want to buy one but I cant finde somtiong about the compability withe the viltrox speedbooster..
what has been your experience with autofocus in video? Specifically Autofocus-continuous in video mode? Was thinking about buying this for Sony A6300 with Sigma MC-11 adapter, but will be switching to Fuji XT3 with Fringer adapter.
Hi ,I love the video on Sigma 50-150 mm f2.8 with os. Sadly it was discontinued by Sigma. I'm a budding photographer. Every time I meet a photographer, they have couple of primes, 70-300mm telephoto lens in their bags. I use a nikon d3100 and I purchased 50mm f1.8 prime, recently added sigma 18-35mm f1.8. I like the constant aperture lenses and looking in the focal range 70-300mm and came across this sigma 50-200mm f2.8 with os.
Hey tns incp!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
Unfortunately I deal more with videography with the lenses I choose to use so I may not be a good eye for what someone needs for photography. The question I get asked a lot is, "is the lens sharp?" for a filmmaker, yes they are sharp for the resolutions we work in, but to a photographer it may be hideous because they need to print their work. Sigma does make a 70-200 f2.8 but it's a previous generation design, not sure if they will be updating it to their new ART series design. I've heard some good things from the newer Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2.
But alas, I don't think I can give much of a recommendation on which one to go with as I don't have those lenses, and also because I use these lenses manually and don't have native camera bodies to test how fast their Auto Focus really is. Sorry I can't be of more help :(
Lately I have watched several TLDR Filmaker videos, and Im impressed how I can find answer to almost all of my answer. For my Fuji X-T3 first I used my old Sigma HSM 17-50mm lens, but I really hated it, it had some focusing issues, with front focus, It was really hard to properly set the focus, so I sold it, and for some extra money I bought, the legendary Sigma ART 18-35. One of my favorit lens ever since, it solved all of my issues. But obviously I wish to have a telephoto lens, and I was about to save some money for the ART 50-100 1.8, but I found its price even on the used market a bit too much.
But are you telling me, that this 50-150mm lens is almost as good in sharpness, and even have better focus breathing? For its cost its almost unbelivable. Im a bit sad, that there too few test video about this lens, however Ive found a Sony A6300 test video with this lens, and it was actually really convincing too. Even the 77mm diameter sound better, since most of my ND-s are in 77mm.
So thank you very much for showing me this opportunity for filmmaking! And sorry for the long comment!
Hey hey again Larion!
So glad you found this video! This lens is definitely a forgotten gem and I was really happy with its performance for the price. Even though its a slower lens, not a big deal for me as I was using this with my GH5 so I boosted it and unboosted my sigma 18-35. The light gathering at that point was maybe a little over 1/3 off. Hope you can find one of these lenses as they are slowly becoming harder to find in the past year!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you very much for the answer! So if Im right, you used this lens for Project E. 1337: Alpha too? Because if so, it seems very convincig!
I got this lense brand new in 2015 and still have with nikon d7100 , and i sold my camera because i just want nikon z6 or z6ii . So i want to know if i got z6 with ftz adapter is it going to work without no issue ?
so happy i found your vid
Hey hey Andrew!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I've never used Nikon cameras so I'm not as familiar with their own Nikon to Nikon adaptors. As long as the adaptor transfers electronic data like aperture, then it should be able to do single focus for photography (results may vary). If you are wanting video continuous AF, that I cannot say as this uses an older type of focusing motor. The adaptor will need to take this into account when trying to keep focus working during video work. Hope this helps!
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TLDR, thank you for the review! How Optical Stabilization works? Does it need any power from the camera? I'm curious if OS of 50-150mm f2.8 Nikon mount would function with Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro camera? With Ursa's original Nikon mount adapter.
Greetings Zilvinas Zusinas!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
The OS on this lens does require power from the camera, unfortunately from what I can tell on the Nikon F adapter for the Ursa Mini Pro, it doesn't seem to have any electronic pins to communicate or send power to the lens, so my guess is the OS most likely wont work if you have the Nikon version of this lens :(
Hope this helps, i'll finish this convo on your second comment!
I have rewatched this video more times than I can count & it has made me order for the 50-150mm OS on the used market. However, how does the IQ & sharpness compare on the 50-100f/1.8 on bmpcc6k?
Hey hey Isaac!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
The lens is sharp and will do well with the BMPCC6k. While the coating may be different from the newer 50-100, the times I've used it for feature films it has given me sharp videos even wide open.
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That’s discovery,os is huge
Hey hey Viktor!
I love this lens, I still use it and it works very well for video!
I want to make video perfectly. so, you can give me a suggestion about Sigma Art 18-35mm F1.8 DC and sigma Art 50-100mm F1.8 DC. which is best for me? plz reply fast.
Greetings Towfiq,
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
I would highly suggest you check out one of my lens buying videos here: czcams.com/video/XzHW45n_XqI/video.html
I unfortunately cannot give you an honest answer to which lens is best for you because I do not have the same creative eye as you. This video breaks down lenses to its basic attributes on what they do and what I look for to determine my lens purchases.
Long story short, lenses wont inherently make your video or film good, there are other skills involved. Someone with a $50 lens is more than capable to make a better movie than someone who spent $2000. I trained on a very affordable lens before I eventually got enough experience to justify a more expensive lens.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by, check back every Wednesday for something new!
not for me but which is best for videograpgy for you according to your experience.
For me, I'm primarily a "narrative filmmaker" working on "independent movies" (action movies) which means I do not require certain focal lengths compared to a wedding videographer or documentary filmmaker. Because of this, the Sigma 18-35 with a Viltrox EF-M2 and Viltrox EF-M1 adapter on my GH5 is the most useful lens for "me."
Again this is "my" experience with "my" needs as a filmmaker, "my" situation may not be the best advice for someone that does not film what I film. I'm not sure if you're just beginning filmmaking or just wondering if the lens is a good upgrade, but if you're a beginning I would still highly suggest you check out the video I made above.
Hope this helps!
You're most welcome, towfiq!
Great as usual!
This review appeared at right time for me. Going to buy a kit with this lens, 18-35 & the 300mm f/2.8 for my gh5 with the viltrox ef-m2.
Hey NewClanWG!
Thank you so much for the kind words and checking out the video!
With that combination you are pretty much set to film just about anything for a narrative set! What kind of videos do you have planned for that kit?
TLDR Filmmaker I’ve planned to film mostly cars etc for a vlog with a friend (b-roll), and other cinematic stuff, not sure when the 300mm will be used though, guess it has its place.. more often will the sigma 18-35, 50-150 & “Leica” 12-60 f/2.8-4 be used!
Is there any chance that you tested out the 300mm f/2.8?
Cool! I think in terms of cars and vlogs, the Leica 12-60 would be more than sufficient with its focal range and fast AF performance with the GH5. Though if you find yourselves doing car shows that are in darker settings so people can show off their light kits on their cars, then you'll probably want to have the Sigma 18-35 with thee Viltrox.
Id say for now, see which type of video work you'll be doing the most, if cinematic works are not as frequent, I would hold off on the 50-150 and 300mm for now. Those lenses don't start to shine until you have ample distance between you and the subject.
I have not had a chance to test out the 300mm, I hope as my channel grows I'll be able to work with either BHphoto or maybe a camera/lens rental house to provide more videos for anyone wishing to know more.
Fun fact, I found an unbranded Japanese 500mm f5.6 lens at a flea market two years ago, the lens is quite cool! I'll need to dig that lens back out and see what I can do with it, I only shot some initial tests back then just to see what the optics looked like.
TLDR Filmmaker probably I will film a few drifting events, there the 50-150 & 300mm might be a good choice. Otherwise they will be used for cinematics and some photography!
Would be awesome to se a video with that 500mm lens!
Also really nice with a youtuber like you who respond to the viewers comments, respect to you! ✊🏼
Wait...you mean to tell me you're not going to film the drifting up close on the outside corner at the end of a drift with a wide to normal lens? You're going to film from a distance?? Man...I am all 60 flavors of disappoint. Haha only kidding only kidding.
Most definitely those lenses will come in handy for drifting! Here I thought it was just car show stuff, I was wrong.
I'll definitely get to that 500mm for everyone.
I know there's going to be a day where its going to be hard for me to get to everyones comments, but until then, I will always do my best to get to everyone. Thanks again for engaging in the comments and watching! Until next Wednesday!
Hey man, love your videos! Would you still recommend this lens as a good counterpart to the Sigma Art 18-35 for my bmpcc4k instead of the Sigma Art 50-100 or any other zoom lens choice in that price range? Regards Yannick
Hey hey Yannick!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
This lens is definitely the counter part to my Sigma 18-35 with a twist. I made a video about how I am leaving the whole speedbooster idea off of my Sigma 18-35mm because I simply don't need the wider end and the extra light does not affect my work as I get to light my scenes. So the booster is actually sitting on my Sigma 50-150. The reason I do it this way now is because it more or less bridges the missing gap between 35-50mm. Without the booster on my 18-35, it behaves like a 36-70mm. With the booster on the 50-150, it behaves like a 70-213mm. Then you take in the light gather equation of the two. the 18-35 is still technically at 1.8 and gathering that kind of light, while the 50-150 is now boosted to f2.0 (more or less) which closes the light transmission gap between the two lenses as well. Its not perfect, but its close enough to get these lenses to blend from one to the other.
Of course if I need wider, I'll just slap the booster over to the 18-35 for that shot, no big deal.
Lastly as this video shows, the 50-150 does not suffer the focus breathing problems of the 50-100. That may or may not both some people. But that is a plus for me. I also get the extra 50mm reach. I have OIS which will be handy for your BMPCC4k. So in my eyes, I actually prefer this lens to pair with my 18-35mm. They may be different generations of lens coating, but they are still similar enough and sharp.
Hope this makes sense and helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
TLDR Filmmaker thanks so much for taking the time to give such detailed feedback man! I’ve been thinking for so long on what is the right Telezoom lens to the 1835. I’m suprised you mostly shoot at 36mm and upwards. Maybe I should considerate that too, as I use the 1835 mostly at 35mm with a speedbooster, as I prefer the look. I never shoot lower than 1.8 anyway. I think I’ll try to get my hands on the 50-150 then. Only found one used, but for a price of 525€ which seems like a good deal. Stay safe and healthy, too!
You're most welcome! Yea a lot of people don't understand why I consider 36mm good enough for my wides. Mainly because I'm a narrative filmmaker and a 24mm look is really only good for an establishing shot, not good for medium shots of actors. The difference of a 24mm to a 36mm FOV is maybe moving the camera 2ft back, I usually have space so thats not a problem to reframe, and it gives me more background compression to work with. Since you go to the 35mm end with a booster, that means you're feeling best at about a 50mm look (full frame terms) so if you decide to forgot and get a non-booster for the 18-35mm, you'll want to be around use 25mm (approx) to get the same look. Heres the kicker, because you don't use f1.8 all that often, this may be an advantage to you because when you go to 25mm to compose the shot, your depth of field technically gets a little deeper. So if you did shoot that 25mm @ f1.8, you'll technically have the DOF of f2.5 or so, while still gathering the same amount of light as f1.8. (aka, you don't need as much light to obtain the same type of shot as you did before with a booster shot at F2.8 or something).
It's really weird how all this works out, but thats the magic of all this crop factor business while using faster lenses without a booster. Hope it kinda makes sense, feel free to experiment how to use the 18-35 with and without the booster! Hopefully you can find a 50-150mm OS version soon, until then keep creating!
How does this match the Sigma 18-35 in color etc?
Hey hey Bradley!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
It matches pretty well, maybe a hiiiiiiiiint warm, but not enough to ever see it.
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Thanks for the vid. Does autofocus work with this lens and the Gh5/Gh4 + Vixtrox adapter? I’ll mainly be shooting stills with this combo if I buy one.
Hey hey Ru Lash!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Yes, this lens does work with the Viltrox Adapter in terms of AF for stills. There are some times where it misses focus the first time (depending on your AF Area settings) but usually will catch it on the second try.
That being said I wouldn't count on it for fast moving subjects, works nicely for stationary subjects.
If you do the occasionally video then the AF won't work that well as the lenses focusing system was not built for it as well as GH focus system doesn't track well enough.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one!
What’s a booster?
Hey hey Dimitri!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
A booster takes your lens image circle and focuses it to a smaller point, this only works for Full Frame or APS-C lenses that are going to a smaller sensor size. You can take a MFT lens and booster it down, its physically impossible due to the mount design. Canon EF is the most popular lens to be boosted to other sensor formats. The benifits of a booster is that your lens will actually become brighter at each F-stop, and you will regain the wider FOV when using a APS-C or MFT sensor. This is just a crash course description, hope it makes sense!
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Is it specially for the APSC camera?or is it apsc lense?
Hey hey Sandesh!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
This is an APSC lens because the crop circle can only cover a APS-C sensor. However because it is not a canon brand lens, it is using a Full Frame EF mount. Meaning it can be used on a Full Frame camera (if it has a sensor crop mode) or APS-C sensor cameras that have either a EF or EF-S mount. Hope this makes sense and helps!
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If anyone can still see this can this be paired woth a nikon z50 with ntz
I'm not sure how well these lenses would pair to a Nikon body via an electronic adaptor. At minimum you should be able to control the Aperture of the lens, but Auto-Focus in photo or video modes might be hit or miss. You may want to look into the Nikon F mount of this lens as it was built in that era. Those lenses with a F to Z mount adapter may yield better results.
Very nice video. Can you do a review of the new Tamron 35 - 150 f/ 2.8 - 4 ?
Greetings David!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Unfortunately I probably won't be getting/reviewing the Tamron 35-150 because of the variable aperture, generally I'd like to have lenses that stay constant. Another reason is that Tamrons, when I use an adapter into my GH5, have traditionally not worked well. When I used to own a metabones, Tamron lens chips would burn out, I lost two lenses because of it. So ever since I've stayed away from Tamron as I'm not sure why their internal chips are different versus Sigma and Canon that have had no problems communicating through an adapter. Its a shame as I do love Tamron lenses :(
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optics are the same 50-100 vs 50-150?
Hey hey Cine Format!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
The optics aren't technically the same because they are different focal zooms. However the coating might be very similar as the older APS-C lenses the generation before the new Sigma branding was very sharp.
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I’m kinda confused with shopping for one of these. If it’s a Sigma SA Mount then will that work with the viltrox? Is this lens made in multiple mounts and if so which one should I buy if I’m going to use it on the gh5. Is this the same conversion as the 18-35 art? So confused haha. Thanks:)
Hey volverdesign!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking some questions!
- No, a Sigma SA mount will not work with the Viltrox EF-M2, you will need a EF mount lens for that adapter
- This lens was made in multiple mounts, I personally always suggest people to purchase EF mount lenses because when it come to development of adapters, EF mount is always the first one to come out and have the most support. Do not purchase a Nikon len and then adapt it to EF mount because you will not be able to talk to the Nikon lens electronically. Fully functioning Nikon adapters are really not present in the market.
- Yup, the conversion is the same as the 18-35 ART, both of these lenses were made for cropped APS-C sensor cameras
Hope this helps! Thank you so much for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
TLDR Filmmaker awesome thank you man this helps a ton. Just started watching your videos and learned so much already
You are most welcome! I will continue to do my best and keep putting out fun meaningful videos for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
Hey! Love your content!! One note though, try not to use the word "Kickback". I understand what you mean when you are looking for us to say as you are a referral, but the actual definition for kickbacks are illegal based and can land you in some hot water.
Kickbacks in the legal world can be seen as a notation of negotiated bribery, rather than a commission/referral payment.
Keep it up!!
Hey hey T 2!
Thank you so much for the kind words and the heads up, I was not aware!
I'll be sure to switch that up in the next one. Thanks again for checking out the video and commenting! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
i'm affraid to get a misbuy, i'm searching for a sort of budget lens and this lens is in my price range, i have a 17-50 sigma lens, a 40mm sigma lens and a 150-600 C sigma lens,
i want something in the same range, but i don't want to step back on quality, but the 50-150 range is ideal for the overlap between my other lenses.
do i get a wrong buy if i get this lens, or is it a good quality lens in my range and get better pictures than a 70-200/300 tamron or 70-200/300 canon (standard issue)
i have a canon EOS 77D (primairy) and a canon EOS 1100D (secondary)
Hey hey Runnerz Crew!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
This lens is the bigger brother of your sigma 17-50mm. If you love the quality of that lens, then you will love the quality of the 50-150 as they are from the same generation and meant to be paired with each other. In my opinion this lens is nice and sharp, I've done 4k video and some photography with it and I have had no complaints of the image quality. The colors look great, good contrast, and sharp wide open. Hope this helps!
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Cool video, tried looking to see if anyone was selling this lens, but cant find it anywhere
Greetings David!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
It is unfortunate that Sigma has discontinued this lens and I don't think they will make a true update to it because of the sigma 50-100 1.8. Be patient and check ebay often or have an alert setup, these lenses do pop up quite a few times throughout the year!
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Please, compare fuji XF 50-140 mm vs Sigma AF 50-150mm on fuji X-T cam?
Hey hey Akhmadjon!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Unfortunately I won't be able to as I do not film with any Fuji cameras at this current time. Right now I use Panasonic and Sony. However potentially Fuji in the future as they keep developing their cameras!
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I use this lens often in my Nikon D750 in dx crop mode. Works great too.
Hey KD!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
I love this lens! I'm sad that Sigma didn't do a full update to this focal length design with their new ART line up, but I get it, it would be huge!
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I was planning on using the 2.8 50-150 on my Gh5. Does the stabilization in the lens work with the ibis on the camera?
Greetings Walker & Ciara!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
The Stabilization does work with the Viltrox or Commlite adapter, you need to make sure you have the OIS turned on before powering on the camera. While the IBIS does work alongside the OIS it will not work in the way of IBIS 2 where they work in conjunction so you may get some weird movements from the IBIS. I would suggest just using the IBIS only as it does a great job on its own with this lens.
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I realize it's been a few years, but do you know, is there an smart adapter to EF mount?
Hey hey Richard!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Depends on what camera you are going to. There are smart adaptors that turn this EF lens into MFT, E, and RF. I have experience with the MFT and E mount smart adaptors that work.
MFT (no booster); geni.us/RxDOe5 (Affiliate link)
MFT with Booster: geni.us/IOkpM (affiliate link)
Sony E (no booster); geni.us/GJBXJyR (affiliate link)
Hope this helps.
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SO CONCERNING CLIP 3:15 TO MAKE YOUR FOOTAGE LOOK LARGER DID YOU USE THIS LENS IN YOUR VIDEO FOR IT AND DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO TUTORIAL I HAVE HEARD THAT A TELEPHOTO LENS REVEAL EVERYTHING BUT I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR A WIDE ANGLE LENS I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THE COMPRESSION
Hello again Chinelo!
I did not specifically use this lens for that shot, that shot was done with a vintage Zuiko Olympus OM 70-150mm f/4 with a passive cheap speedbooster zoomed to 150mm.
You are correct, I was playing around with lens compression by using a longer focal length while framing my subject as if it was a medium wide shot to achieve the look of that building being much closer and larger than the wider shorter focal length shots.
I will eventually do a video series of how I compose shots and determine what focal lengths to use. But I do briefly talk about lens compression and what it looks like from many different focal lengths in my video here: czcams.com/video/XzHW45n_XqI/video.html
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CAN YOU SEND ME THE LINK OF THE MOVIE YOU SHOT THE SIGMA 50-150 WITH AND THE VIDEO SHOOT WAY BACK AND ZOOMING THE LENS IN ON THE SUBJECT GREAT VIDEO BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS
Hey hey Platform 7 Media!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
The movie is currently going through some things and will hopefully be available soon. As for zooming in on a subject, if you are wondering if the lens is Parfocal, it is not, you will lose focus as you zoom through the range :(
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have you or anyone tested the autofocus-continuous for this lens in Video? I know with some older lenses it is greyed out. I have been using Sony A6300 with Sigma FC-11, and will be transitioning to Fuji XT3 with Fringer adapter.
Hey hey That Guy, Dakota HD!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I'm not too sure how well this lens will CAF on a Fuji system, I have not gotten a chance to use a Fuji camera yet. This being an older generation Sigma lens, I'd assume you'd be able to just change aperture and it may possibly relay focal length information for IBIS. But as far as CAF performance, I generally would advice to get native lenses if CAF is the top priority.
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I got the cam and the lens, the CAF option isn’t blurred out, but indeed the older autofocus mechanism can’t keep up with the cameras depth calculations.
Have you attempted CAF on your systems with this lens?
I’ll probably have to get the 50-100 for safety 😭, but your video was such a great cheap-O experiment.
Is there any way to adapt this lens to a Panasonic S-Series L-Mount? I know it would show heavy vignetting depending on the focal length, it being an APS-C lens on a full frame body, but I wonder if an adapter, possibly a speedbooster could somehow lessen that issue.
Hey hey Starman!
There are adaptors out there like Sigmas MC21. It'll give you control of Aperture and basic AF functions for photography. Video AF I am not for certain. You also have third party lens adaptors, Viltrox maybe, that will get you the aperture control but AF for video probably won't work well. AF for photography may be spotty compared to Sigmas Official adapter.
No a speedbooster will not help, it will make the vignetting even worse. Speedboosters shrink the image circle instead of expanding it.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you for the quick reply. Don't know why I was even asking about the speedbooster, guess it's difficult to shake 10 years of being a M43 user.
Good to know there are options to adapt the older 50-100 model to L-Mount. Too bad about the AF for video possibly being affected, since it's supposedly not that accurate to begin with in combination with Panasonic lenses.
thank you so much
You're most welcome!
will you be doing a GH5 firmware 2.3 review?
Hey hey again BM Official!
I do have some plans to do a review on the new GH5 firmware that was released today, but I won't be getting to it until after June 10th. I am on the final home stretch of the feature film I am D.O.P'ing for and want to make sure I keep the firmware of my camera consistent all the way through. Afterwards I will play around with the 2.3 firmware to see if does anything significant!
Have you had any new thoughts towards the BMPCC 4k? Or do you still plan to wait before deciding?
Can the camera lens be connected to the mc11 update?
I'm not sure at this moment in time. I'm sure you can connect it to the MC11 and use it like normal with aperture settings etc. AF for video or photo is probably where it won't work.
Greetings!
I'm trying to decide between 50-150 2.8 os / 50-100 1.8 art or Canon's 55-250 is zoom lens, for photography. I have a Canon 80D.
Which would be the sharper lens?
Greetings Christopher!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
Unfortunately I only work in the field of videography and not so much photography so sharpness is a bit subjective to me because I work in the confines of 1080 to UHD 4k resolution, and in most cases they are viewed on a Smartphone or Tablet so sharpness really becomes less of worry for me.
The are a couple people on youtube that you can check out to see if they have a review on those lenses as they usually dive into sharpness tests etc.
- Christopher Frost Photography
- Tony and Chelsea Northrop
- Fro Knows Photos (aka Jared Polin)
I know Christopher Frost has looked at the 50-100 as well as Tony and Chelsea Northrop. Jarid Polin has looked at one of the version of 50-150 but I'm not sure if he look at my version with the OS. I'm going to assume Christopher Frost has looked at the Canon 55-250 because that gentleman has touched just about every modern lens I can think of.
There are also some online resources that you can check, I think its called DXOmark. They usually have a library of tests done to lenses and camera bodies I think.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Christopher Bregita the 50-150mm is a great very sharp lens. Have buyed used and was clearly new. It my favourid lens, have also a sigma 17-50 2.8 os also a great and very sharp lens.
Als i have canon 17-40 f4 L , 24-105 f4 and an 70-300 f4/5.6 L.
Bot sigma's are very extreem sharp at f4
Is this one's quiet? How does it compare to the noise of the 50 to 100 Sigma or 18-35
Hey hey haloboy456!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
If you are using this for AF needs, it will not be as silent as the Sigma ART lenses as it uses an older style of focus motors. You will hear similar clicking of the ART lenses as it makes micro adjustments. That being said, if you have a boom mic or lav mic on your talent, you're probably not going to hear this lens as this lens will be further back since its a telephoto lens. Hope this helps!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker a human reply? That is what turns a casual fuel into a subscriber. Many thanks tldr filmmaker!
Also thanks for the insight it genuinely helps. I'm still hunting for the best telephoto lens beyond my Sigmas for accurate and quiet video autofocus in these newer mirrorless bodies. These lenses can make it work, especially with distant audio, but for documentary run and gun on a single rig, still looking. This comment helps a ton.
Hahaha yup a real human reply! I try my best to answer all comments, even on old videos, when I have the time to do so. Theres probably going to be a day where I can't keep up.
I personally have since moved onto Sony cameras with their E-mount design and lens options. One of the main reasons I left was because Panasonic wasn't giving me what I needed and I was done with adaptors for electronic lenses. So far I have not regretted my move and it's beginning to make more sense as the Canon EF mount seems to be legacy now and no one is developing for it. It does make me sad as now you're forced into one camp or another when it comes to lens options.
For me it may hurt if Panasonic ever finally gets their act together with their AF, because that was the only thing I wish I could have with their cameras, and if it rivals Sonys I may switch back over time. For now the Sony lens lineup and feature set works well for my current needs.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Wow. Thanks for this reply. I really appreciate it. It acknowledges that for many if not most of us out here, if we can come into one body, that might be it 5-10 years. I was gifted an XT3 by a mentor that moved to XT4s and then eventually Sony. I am procuring his sets of Sigma 18-35 1.8s and a 50-100mm with Fringer EF Pro IIs which is objectively better than the old T3i and G7 with kit lenses I've had the privilege to have in the past. So I'm kind of forced to troubleshoot the idiosynracies of the Fugi platform and odd place EF legacy puts the still infamous and well performing Sigmas I now find myself in a position to purchase. But this will be it, probably for a while, so it matters, and insight like this in invaluable. Forever thank you from a thankful follower.
Is focus and focal range wheels smooth as in 50-100? - I have used Canon 70-200 and it isn't comfortable for video at all because wheels aren't smooth.
Hey hey again Viacheslav!
I unfortunately have never used a Sigma 50-100 so I can't comment about the smoothness, if its similar to the 18-35mm then I would say the Sigma 50-150 has a little more resistance than the Sigma 18-35, but not by much, I can still pull my focus smoothly as you saw in the examples here when I did the focus breathing test.
@@TLDR_filmmaker nice, thanks! Sigma 50-100 is very similar to 18-35, they just like brothers (or sisters 😇)
Hi, I'm hoping you can help me with something since you are the only person I can find with this same setup. I have the Viltrox M1 and M2 on a GH4. I just received a used 50-150mm from KEH. The lens looks great, but there is a slight clunking noise when the lens is shifted back and forth. I heard this is normal when the lens is powered off, but it continues when the camera is powered on, resulting in an image shift as it clunks. Do you have the same clunking noise (off or on)? Is it possible the Viltrox isn't engaging the OS power, or do you think this is just a faulty lens? Thanks!
Greetings Tev!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question.
I have two copies of this lens and both of them do not clunk when the lens is off or on. One quirk that I found to engage the OIS for lenses attached to the Viltrox was that you needed to have the switch already set to "ON" before you turned on the camera. If you had the lens "OFF" and then tried to engage the "ON" it would not work. Not sure if this is fixed with newer firmware from Viltrox as I have not updated mine since everything works fine right now, "don't fix what's not broken"
Otherwise the clunking seems odd... I know the older Canon 24-105 f/4 clunked around, but my copies of the Sigma does not. My guess is its possibly a faulty lens, but if you have not updated the Viltrox Firmware and turned the OIS "ON" first before powering up the camera, I would try that first and see if that fixes anything.
Hope this helps! Definitely check back and let the community know of your findings!
Thank you so much for the reply. I suspected as much. Since I only had a few days left to return to KEH, I processed the return just in case. Luckily, I found one for sale on Craigslist the same day. It was nice having played with the KEH lens because I knew what to look for. I tried the Craigslist one on my same set-up and definitely no clunking, on or off. So, yes, it seems the lens was broken. Great video BTW. This video was a major reason I decided to try and find this lens in the first place. I really didn't care for the focus breathing I saw in videos of the newer 50-100mm, plus it's longer, has optical stabilization, and the F2.8 seems like it will be plenty - the DOF can be made quite shallow and the focal reducer knocks it down to F2.0 for extra light.
You are most welcome! I'm glad you were able to find another copy of this lens that is operational! I'm also glad that this video was able to help you in your purchase decision, it's really a great lens, heavy, but pairs up nicely with the Sigma 18-35mm!
I just got this for my GH5s. I noticed Vignetting from 50 mm all the way to 150mm. Is that normal using a Metabones Ultra? I have the Sigma 18-35 as well but it only has vignetting only up to about 20mm past that was no issues. Is there a difference if taking pics vs Video?
Hey hey Deadikated!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I don't have too much experience with the Ultra version if maybe it has a slightly better crop. You're not using the Metabones for BMPCC are you? If not, make sure you don't have the OS on the lens turned on, as I've noticed that contributes to the vignetting. Lastly, yes, photography mode is different than video mode in which there is more sensor size being used, depending on your ratio you could have a lot of vignetting with a speedbooster. Hope this helps!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for the response. I am using my GH5s and I know the sensor would be a bit of an issue so I am reconsidering saving some coin and selling and going with Viltrox.
If I'm not mistaken I think the GH5S sensor size was slightly bigger than the GH5 (that I use in this video) right? I'm not sure if the Viltrox would help, unless you are saying that you have the BMPCC Ultra booster that had a .64x crop reduction?
@@TLDR_filmmaker Yes Gh5s sensor is bigger but I also have the
Metabones T CINE Speed Booster XL 0.64x
I wish i could find this lens for my Ursa and BMPCC 6K. It's gone from this earth,i search every day
Hey hey again Bill!
It's definitely become harder to find since I put out this video :(
Still searching. After months. Nowhere. Crazy
So good lens, but Sigma Optimization Pro software doesn't support it for calibration!!!
Hey hey Vlad!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
The Sigma software most likely won't ever support this lens as this was before the ART series era. Somewhat a shame because SIGMA made some pretty awesome lenses during this generation (Yellow ring on the barrel)
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker
Thanks for comment.
I have issues with this lens on my Nikon D7000. In few days can check it on my new Z50.
The problem is that in different distances it has different accuracy with AF.
I calibrated it as I could with AF-Tune and I have amazing so sharp images unless it's closer than 3-4 meters distance. If it's more I can take sharp images with opened aperture. :-(
have this lense, love it, but I'm having trouble finding follow focus rings for it. Any suggestions?
Hey hey Framer of worlds!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
This lens is a little tricky because its focus ring is a bit on the thin side in general. I personally don't have a lens gear on it however if you have a caliper to measure the diameter of the lens, there are companies on amazon that have full 360 focus gear rings for various lens diameters that you'd have to just fit the lens through. geni.us/i6s8 (affiliate link, Amazon)
I purchased one for my Olympus 12-40. All my other lenses with larger focus barrels I use this: geni.us/5Yvg (Affiliate link, Amazon). I think they have thinner ones, you just have to make sure its long enough for the diameter. I LOVE these, they don't just out of the lens as much, super solid, and have held up for years. These are more preferable for these larger lenses. If you have a small vintage lens you'll want the ones that jut out further like the one I have on my Oly 12-40 lens. Hope this helps!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks
You're most welcome!
any ideas where I can get the 2.8 OS? not only discontinued....no major sites even have the canon version anymore.. =(
Hey hey Seth!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! eBay would be the best bet to get this lens, the link I have in the description should show you what's currently available on the used market for Canon Mount. This lens does pop up monthly on eBay so you'll have to unfortunately wait for someone looking to sell theirs. Hope you can find one soon!
Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Much appreciated you taking the time to respond!
You're most welcome! Good luck!
Does this work with a BMPCC 6k?
Hey hey Michael!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Yes, this should not have any problems working with the EF mount on the BMPCC 6k and 6k Pro.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Stupid question: I'm assuming with such a large lens, you are stuck with shooting just on a tripod, rather than run and gun with a gimbal or strong arming that beast?
Definitely not a single hand gimbal, maybe the larger dual handle gimbals for RED Cine lens setups? But I've definitely shot handheld with this beast and it wasn't too bad. Just make sure you remove the tripod collar so that your hand can hold the lens more comfortably while you film.
@@TLDR_filmmaker I'm assuming that recent dual handed Gimbals setup is you reviewed is your setup (the one with the action fight scene)? I might pick that up then. Just curious, Do you make commission off the products you review? I would love to support your channel that way. Least I can do since you saved me a quite a few grey hairs off my balding head trying to find the right gear these days. Lots of marketing without much substance when you get into the field.
Yup, that is the current gimbal I take with me, I like that I can go single handle or dual handle with a follow focus when I need it. oooooo S Singh, you just revealed to me that you don't make it to the end of my videos where I say if you use my amazon affiliate links it helps support me with a little commission hahaha!
I do, but I don't seem to have a lot of Canadian viewerships so Amazon CA doesn't see me as a viable source for them. I truly appreciate you thinking about how you can support my efforts here, I am thinking about do a creative Patreon in 2020, just want to make sure I can offer some fun perks that makes sense.
But until then, you being around, watching and commenting and engaging with others is all I could even ask for. Thank you so much for your support from the early beginnings!
@@TLDR_filmmaker I have to confess, I sometimes don't make it to the end all of the videos. It's the charm of this channel. You get the stuff you want out of the way first, then jump to the bit your really care about. I do the same things with owners manuals LOL.
Pateron would be cool. Maybe take priority requests for what to review next? Not sure what else you can do . You content is very well packaged to begin with. Feel free to bounce off ideas off me as a sounding board.
Haha it's all good, as you said, my channel is made for many not to get to the end of the video.
Will do, If I go for a patreon I'll most likely make a video asking what people think of certain ideas so I can make sure people that want to support get what they want when they contribute :)
How do the rokinon lenses compare to the sigma lenses? Are they better quality or just about the same?
Hey Ryan!
I would honestly say that theres no major differences at the end of the day. In my first narrative film, that samples were shown in this review video, I had my camera ops deploy a Rokinon Prime, Sigma, Panasonic 12-35 on gimbal, and a vintage Olympus 70-200mm zoom, just to get all those shots you saw.
While optical performance is definitely a concern and we'd like to make sure our images turn out sharp no matter what f/stop we're at. Generally speaking modern lenses are all acceptably sharp wide open, and we may actually find ourself closing down the lens to get the right depth of field for the shot or lighting conditions. We closed down the old vintage 70-200 and it sharpened up nicely for the specific shots I needed.
TLDR: They are about the same, the difference would come in terms of contrast, color reproduction, subtle optical distortions, and flare characteristics. All of which our audience members don't wonder about and would never notice even if we told them to look for it.
Hope this helps! Are you asking in terms of you're about to invest into your first set of lens/lenses beyond the kit lens? If so, definitely ask me any questions you'd like answer in my series of lens videos that are coming!
TLDR Filmmaker Thanks for the response! I'm asking because I was looking into buying the rokinon 12mm and was looking to see if I should get it over a sigma lens. I have the 18-35 And was wondering if the image quality is similar to that
Gotcha! Hmm... if the 18-35mm is on a speedbooster there would only be about a 4mm focal difference between the Rokinon 12mm and the Sigma 18-35, both optics are sharp and comparable so you may not gain too much from the Rokinon.
However if you are planning on getting a single handed gimbal down the road, the small Rokinon 12mm would work well with its light weight and small profile.
TLDR Filmmaker Ok thanks for the advice!
You are most welcome!
Okay I know this is an old video but I really hope you or someone else in the comments can help me out with this, as it’s very important to me. Is this lens parfocal?
Hey hey Rhett!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I just gave this a go on my A7iii and while I can't say it's truly parfocal, its pretty darn close from what I could tell taking a picture zoomed out and zoomed in making sure I didn't touch the focus ring. I acquired focus first at the long end, took a photo, then zoomed out and took another photo to check.
For video it's probably good enough, for photos probably not truly parfocal enough at the higher resolution. Hope this helps!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Wow you went out and tested it really quickly? That’s the dedication everyone looks for with CZcamsrs but hardly ever gets. I ask because all of the pro telephoto zooms native on the GH5 have significant parfocal issues and do lots of strange things. If this is what I like to refer to as Affectively parfocal then it’s already miles ahead of the native glass from Olympus and Panasonic. Looks like this will be the lens that finally makes me get a speed booster for the system. Hopefully it pairs well with my Leica 10-25
I try my best to respond to as many comments as possible, the parfocal test was something I did not think about at the time. But now I know! "Affectively Parfocal" is a great way to put it! Now i'm not sure if a booster optic would change this because you'd need to make sure the optic itself is lined up correctly for the lens, so you'll have to do some testing and recalibrating of the booster optic to make sure. I know with my Sigma 18-35 back in the day when I used to use a booster, I turned the optic out of alignment with infinity slightly and it actually caused the lens to become affectively parfocal.
I assume as long as the optic is calibrated to the 50-150's infinity point, then the lens should still act the same way boosted to a GH5.
I have the version 1 of this lens and sucks! :) bad focus breathing. No OS that makes the shot constantly shake on minor movements etc
Oh dang haha. I've never played with the V1. I just knew back in the day before IBIS that I wanted lenses with OS. So thus I landed on this beauty!
@@TLDR_filmmaker the one u got looks legit .
Great Video! I have an APS-C Body (Nikon D5300) and I'm struggling between the Tamron G2 which performs well even on a Crop sensor Body or the Sigma 50-100 f1.8 Art which is built for Crop Sensor Bodies :( It's like Decent Sharpness+Longer Reach(Crop Factor:1.5x)+Beastly IS (Tamron) vs. Extremely Sharp+Shorter but Decent Reach+No IS+Faster Opening Aperture(Sigma). Probably will not upgrade my APS-C Body in 2-3 Years. Would appreciate any advice in my situation :) Thank you very much for your time!
Hey hey Mel!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
I'm assuming you're thinking about the G2 70-200mm 2.8?
I guess the main question would be, is this for photography or videography? (I'm assuming photography) from a videography standpoint I haven't looked into the newer Tamron lenses so I'm not sure of their performance in terms of focus ring, focus throw, focus breathing. Tamron has always had some nice optics.
In the grand scheme of things, it depends on your future plans. If you're staying in the Nikon camp you may or may not eventually step up to a full frame camera for your work. If this is the case, then I would get the Tamron as it would be the better longer term investment.
Another plus side is if you're working conditions are mainly handheld, that VC on the Tamron will definitely come in handy for you to capture your shots, including combating the slower 2.8 by reducing the shutter speed to match the extra light on a 1.8. The Sigma is definitely more of a tripod or monopod lens, unless you're mainly shooting outside where you can up your shutter speed to cancel the motion blur.
So in the end, it really comes down to what you see in your future and what you're goals you have for yourself with your creative work. When it comes to lenses they are an investment for the long term, not the short term. So I would write down a checklist of the ways you'd use the lens like.
- Outside or inside primarily
- Handheld or Stabilizers
- Professional work or just for fun
- Buy new or Buy used (This could be a factor cause used Nikon Sigma lenses go for cheaper than Canon Mount Sigma's)
Once you figure out all your uses for the lens, with price factored in, you'll be able to get an idea of which lens will best suit you for your current and future needs. Hope this helps!
Thank you very much for the reply! Sorry about that I didn't mention the particular Model of Tamron. Yes I'm referring to the Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2 :) I'll be mainly be doing photography but would also be interested to tap in to the Videography World with this lens (Tamron or Sigma).
I'll be staying in the Nikon Camp since I have Lenses which are for Nikon mounts. I have struggled in the past where in situations needed an Image Stabilization so that feature really gets me to lean towards the Tamron but the Sigma offers a solution for that for having a faster apeture opening so that made me having a hard time in deciding with what lens should I go for.
The only thing that's holding me back to go for the Tamron is because they are built for FF cameras whereas I have an APS-C camera which is a perfect match for the Sigma lens and acts like a Full Frame 70-200 on an APS-C. It makes me worry about the crop factor being incorporated with the Tamron where a 70-200 f2.8 will perform 105-300 f4.2 on a Crop Sensor Body.
Would like treat either of the lenses as the "Jack of all trades" lens in my arsenal for Landscapes, Events, Portraits,Vacation, etc.
Thank you very much again and have a wonderful day :)
One thing to remember is that with the Tamron, even though it gives you the look of a f/4.2, it does not mean that the light gathering of the lens is a f/4.2, you will still get the same 2.8 light gathering but with a cropped in image.
I personally think you may be better served with the Tamron 70-200 because you have the VC that can cancel out the 1.5 f stop advantage of the Sigma. And of course, you may eventually upgrade to a full frame camera as Nikon continues their development.
A quick question, what other lenses do you have in your kit?
TLDR Filmmaker Thank you so much for this information. I'm starting to lean towards the Tamron G2.
All I have right now is an ultrawide lens Tokina 11-16 f2.8 DX ii and the standard Kit lens Nikon 18-55 f3.5-5.6 vr. I mostly do landscapes shots and outdoors and now I want to tap in to the world of low light and portraits with a fast zoom lens and still having the capability to do other types of photography :)
You are most welcome!
On a different note, I almost wonder if maybe you want to look into getting the G2 24-70mm f/2.8? It tops out right at a very popular 105mm portrait look. For me I haven't played to much in the longer telephoto range so I'm not sure what you have planned on the longer end with the 70-200mm. But just a thought, depending on what other types of photography you want to go for.
Is it good for the bmpcc4k?
Hey hey Kenny!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
It will work just fine on the BMPCC4k with or without booster. With the booster you may start to see a soft vignette a the telephoto end of the lens. But this has definitely been a great telephoto zoom lens for when I need it. Nice sharpness and contrast.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey, I was wondering how the sharpness is when wide open with a speedbooster since it can go up to f/1.8 with a 0.71x, it would beat the 50-100 1.8 hands down if it is still sharp and usable
The lens with a speedbooster is sharp wide open. We've used it on one feature film and it performed very well. The specific booster I used was the Viltrox EF-M2 mark 1. I have heard the mark 2 seems to be slightly different in the optic, but I do not have experience on what those differences are. If you go with Metabones, their optics are pretty solid and should keep things sharp for you.
One thing to note. If you are only planning on using the booster and lens setup for video. Its definitely sharp. If you are planning to use it for photography, that will be a different story because of how much resolution you are getting. 4k resolution it looks nice and sharp.
Love your channel :D
Hey Both - Videography!
Thank you so much for the kind words and checking out the video! I will continue to do my best and create fun meaningful content for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
For myself travel :)
Awesome! Where would you say is the coolest place you got to travel to? I love the mountains in Taipei, Taiwan, looks amazing during golden hour!
I have been to America in 2015 (I live in the Netherlands myself). Back then I only had my gopro so I really need to go back with my gh5 sometime!
Oh man thats a big change in camera gear for sure! I want to travel to Europe someday. I am familiar with the Netherlands, a friend of mine lives there now and one of my favorite choreographers of all time was the Artistic Director of Nederlands Dans Theater, Jiří Kylián. I hope to see that company perform one day!
This lens with it's power and weight needs stabilization......Good review otherwise .....It will work on a Sony full frame because the a99/2 and a99 "A" Mount models have an aps-c mode........Too bad SIGMA does not make this lens for the Sony "A" Mount, needs an adopter
Hey hey Howard!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
It's definitely on the heftier side, especially on a GH5 body, the IBIS works well but if its being adapted electronically to a camera that doesn't have IBIS, the OIS in the lens does quite well!
It really is unfortunately that Sigma discontinued this lens, the range essentially acts like a 70-200 and it's done very well for my needs in certain narrative filmmaking shots.
Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one!
hey what's up Tl-dr filmmaker - long time fan here.
I am currently on the GH5s with Viltrox adapter like you - and I hav ethis old Sigma lens but on a Nikon F mount. I have the first gen. In terms of the adapter I will need to go from Nikon F-mount, tot he VIltrox EF mount - will I need an adapter with electronic contacts?
Hey hey again Go Polaris!
Thank you so much for checking out another video!
Nikon lenses are a bit wonky when it comes to adapting their electronic lenses. As or right now you can adapter a Nikon F to EF mount however you will not be able to control the aperture blades, so you'll be stuck wide open (not always a bad thing).
There is one F-EF adapter that I saw on amazon that can move the aperture blades manually, but it only works with Nikon G series lenses, not exactly sure if this Sigma would be considered in that camp. But it not having aperture control is no big deal to you, then you can just get a standard F-EF adapter and use the optics of your Sigma.
I'm not sure how much this effects the GH5s, but it seems like recently Panasonic's new firmware did something weird with how it see non-electronic lenses. People that use full manual lenses with their Viltrox have been reporting that the camera will register a lens error when it didn't use to before. I'm still running old firmware and do not have this problem. Viltrox is aware of the problem and are working to fix it on their end to adapt to panasonic's new firmware.
Hope this helps! Thank you so much for stopping by and commenting again! Always appreciate it!
Hi TLDR, been watching this video for some time now until I've finally decided to comment. I hope my comment is not too late as this video 5yrs old now.
(1) I have been thinking of buying a sigma 50-100mm f1.8. With your nice video, am no-longer considering buying it.
(2) I have that sigma 59-150mm f2.8 IS version, not used it yet but will be pairing it with a Blackmagic BMCC 2.5K on a forthcoming project soon. Your review gives more confidence
3. I have bought another Blackmagic, URSA 4K (original big one) and been thinking of buying a sigma 70-200mm f2.8 sport to put on it. Reason is that I saw some technical review on blackmagic website which argued that a full frame lens on a super 35mm crop sensor camera performs far better than a crop sensor lens on a crop sensor body. What do advise? Should I save up for a full frame 70-200mm or I should just get another 50-150mm? Thanks
Hey hey Hussein!
The main reason Full Frame Lenses are better on a S35 sensor is because you are now only sampling the sharp center image of that lens. Other reasons included that resolving power on a full frame lens is higher.
The one thing to remember is if you decide to save up for the 70-200, that is going to be a 105-300mm Full Frame equivalent on your S35 sensor, a significantly longer telephoto reach. It will not behave the same as your current 50-150mm. (which is essentially a 70-200 full frame equivalent)
Will you notice a difference in image quality between the two? Maybe only a little bit when it comes to corner and vignette performance. In my preferences I do not care too much about corner performance when it comes to video because I never frame my main subject in those areas. For photographers its a different story.
Hope this information helps in determining which lens is better for your needs.
@@TLDR_filmmaker Very helpful feedback. Thanks so much for the information. I now know exactly what lens I should save for
Thanks for this video. Is auto-focus on this lens working with the Viltrox EF-M2? I've used an old (not the current version) Sigma 70-200 and it does a lot of weird things when using push AF. Sometimes, the aperture will just close and I had to remove and reinsert battery as the aperture just locks up. Sometimes it would focus, sometimes it won't respond at all.
Hey hey again Clyde!
Thank you so much for checking out this video deeper in the archives!
I have not experienced that with the Viltrox and Sigma 50-150 lens. It seems to focus pretty well and accurately.
There's only a couple things I can think of to try and or why yours may being acting weird.
1) When you power on the GH5, you must make sure the AF selection knob on your Sigma lens is already set in the AF position instead of MF. If you have it set to MF and then slide it over to AF, the camera doesn't really distinguish the mode being switched.
2) Could possibly be a firmware thing. I'm actually still on older firmware for my GH5 and Viltrox because I was still on a project when I got these items. So I didn't want to break anything that was already working.
3) If none of these things solve the problem, I would also give Viltrox a hollar. I haven't emailed them personally, but I hear they've been decently responsive to inquiries. Worth a shot!
Not sure if any of these things will help, but hopefully it does! Let me know!
Thanks Jason! Will give them a try. God bless.
You are most welcome, Clyde!
TLDR , This lens is awesome. I'm enjoying it so much. Paired it with the XT3 and Ninja V.
I found this video when I was considering the 50-100.
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Hey hey Mattieau!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and hitting me up on both here and instagram!
That's a killer setup you got going for sure! One of these days I'll finally be able to use my Sigma 18-35 and 50-150 on an actual super35 sensor instead of needing to put it through a booster, I love the lenses natural performance without anything additional!
How do you like the Ninja V? It's on the list of things I know will get eventually, but love to hear as many people's experience with it on different camera systems!
Thanks again for stopping by! I'll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey, and thank you for sharing the info man. Made a huge difference in my setup.
I'm loving the ninja V so far. Having a kit that I can keep quite small or build out is good. The quality from the Ninja is solid and prores directly on drive saves so much space and time vs transcoding everything. ( I also just noticed I'm responding from my other channel lol)
You're most welcome! Thank you so much for your thoughts on how the Ninja V works in your setup! That's definitely one of the things I'd like to have in terms of having Prores files ready to go. My hope is that the Ninja V continues to be developed as I eagerly await for Panasonic to work with Atomos to get prores Raw out of the HDMI from either their S series or GH series!
Haha it's all good, I hope to have another channel eventually to review movies, I watch so many movies for my own studies, but running two channels at the moment would be a bit much. Hopefully sometime in the future!
Thanks again for engaging, I'll see you in the next one my friend!
which adapter are you using please ?