I Found A 1613 Polish Guide To Surviving A Plague And It's Terrible
Vložit
- čas přidán 23. 03. 2021
- here is the guidebook if you want to have a look: www.dbc.wroc.pl/dlibra/public...
_____________
My Instagram: bit.ly/2Qo9rrI
My nudes: bit.ly/2veiE0r
My merch: bit.ly/2CCq5jE
ok but why do English Karolina and Polish Karolina sound like two different people 👁👄👁
idk
The world may never know...
Felt that
English Karolina is an alter ego
Because there are two of them
You're telling me that in the 1600s they knew white bread made you fatter than wheat and they openly discussed how mental health can affect you physically?
We have regressed, Friends.
You joke, but this is super accurate. A lot of things that we have known for literally hundreds of years has been actively suppressed in the last century, mostly by companies looking to turn a profit. (granted there's a whole lotta things that we DIDN'T know too, as Karolina's reading makes abundantly clear, but still...)
That has a lot to do with history's revisionism. It's quite an interesting subject
Also that he gave other solutions for poorer people
Ancient Egypt knew that cleanliness was important, especially when performing surgery. The west didn't cop on to this until the 19th century.
In his time, rich people had their grain fully milled so they ate white bread or white rice. Physicians probably noticed that the well off had different ailments. In our time, poor people have the white bread and the middle class and rich go for wholemeal.
Me: **turns on English subtitles** Ahhh I see!
Also me: _native polish speaker_
same lmao
no because same
LMAOOOOO SAME
Lmao samee
Hello fellow polish immigrants ig cuz same
My husband walked in on me watching this video and said "Who is this?" "This is Karolina" I said. He asked "Is that the girl that does what she's not supposed to? In fancy dresses?" XD I think he was thinking of Thug Edwardian Lady, lol. Thanks for another peak into history!
He’s not wrong! 🤣
uh
Okay, that's precious.
He really said “light your house on fire, plague can’t get in your house if you no longer have a house 🧐” his MIND
Ancient times shit posting
This advice actually makes a lot of sense for the time it was written, and also because it was addressed towards common folks and not wealthy people. The floor in those times was often made of just hardened earth, and there could be insects living there, especially fleas. So covering it with a bit of hay then burning the hay is a really efficient method of ridding yourself of unwanted houseguests. A fire like that is pretty easy to control - they had to be really good at controlling fire, as they cooked on the open flame already - so burning down their house wasn't such a big concern.
@@arienrhod1 yeah, also if your items of furniture are made out of a mixture of thick wood and wool, they're not gonna set fire if you have a quick fire on your floor
@@MazHem or be moved out if the way.
1600s problems require 1600s solutions XD
Dr Sebastian Petrycy is the literal personification of "he a little confused but he got the spirit"
r/confidentlyincorrect maybe even
@valeria Totally agree!
right? the whole time I was like he's kind of right but so wrong at the same time. But to be fair that was the best they could have come up with at that time
Everything you know, you know thank to people like Dr Petrycy! You wouldve known nothing on your own without him and his successors making observations over decades and centuries and developing the knowledge that you so coneviently and ignorantly benefit from. Pay respect.
@@amjan Absolutely right. The knowledge we have today has been built and accumulated for centuries via trial and error. We can't stand proud and arrogant today with our medical books in our hands and mock the ones that came before us, like Dr Petrycy; it would be like spitting at the sky. As a medical student, I'm so grateful for the medics and nurses that had to deal with these illnesses. We would be in the dark without them.
I'm actually impressed how many good tips are sprinkled in here, especially about the mental health advise. If you live in constant fear, your immune system actually weakens, so you become more vulnerable to disease. Sooo basically, try not to panic everyone
That just made me panic more-
2020 politicians, take notes.
Karolina: "my favourite interior design is just dried herbs everywhere"
me: looks up to the bunches of herbs drying on my ceiling "I am a witch, the plague won't get me"
Yeah, we’d be blamed for the plague, my friend.
Lmao! Glad I'm not the only witchy one with dried herbs, bones and other things coming out from everywhere.
I have to laugh because my husband and I are Scando-Romani and my Mother is Roman Catholic so it's very unusual to say the least. My Mother is very tolerant or our religion as we are of her's.
I honestly said when the whole pandemic broke out "I think we're gonna confuse the holy Hel out of anything that tries to get in this house! We've got the holy trinity Hel, Hectate, and the Virgin Mary."
@@erinw.9256 Not this time!😂Liberal's blame Conservative's Conservative blames *checks list* the CCP, Fauci, Big Pharma, and mainstream media. The truth lies Gods only who knows where anymore.
@@kitsunelee007
Heck yeah!! I went pagan during 2020.
@@erinw.9256 *massive hugs* welcome to the wild world of witchcraft!
Alternate title: Immortal woman shows us book she found at the back of her closet while doing spring cleaning.
Omg another plot piece of the maid who stole her madams clothes because they died of plague? 😂💀
fanfic, I’m on it.
Literally yesterday I had the thought that the worst part of being immortal would be that thing where you remember something you owned a decade ago and try desperately to remember where you put it despite having actuality discarded it, but on a centuries long scale
@@bryanalexander3184 If I was immortal I probably would of gone insane with cataloging everything that I owned. I would be mortified if I lost track of say Ye Olde cringe diary and then see it being shown on a history documentary, all because I lost track of it.
That would be weird if you were immortal, languages would develop around you so would you be able to read your old diaries from some hundreds of years ago? Would you forget your ancient first language?
Moral of the story: best way to not get plague is to not get plague 👁️👄👁️
Its giving me “if your depressed, just cheer up” vibes.
@@grammaticalchainsaw7318 also, Tyler the Creator’s infamous /s tweet “how is cyberbullying real, just close your eyes.”
and that's exactly what Hungary's chief medical officer said about the coronavirus at one of her regular press conferences
Uhhh honestly yeah, true. Avoid as much as possible. That’s why we quarantine and social distanced, right? Why we were trying to “flatten the curve” and slow down the rate of spread, don’t overwhelm the hospitals
Nope the moral of the story is to wear a mask, socially distance, and get vaccinated.
Oh, man, as a botanist and general nerd, I _love_ early medical texts and their wacky cures. Here are a few notes on some of the substances mentioned:
1. "Perfume apple" probably refers to a pomander, the name of which comes from the French _pomme d'ambre_ or "ambergris apple." They were generally small round containers with holes for air (or just fabric bags) that contained perfumed substances. They were a popular way to theoretically ward off pestilence, but they also helped ward off the smell of unwashed human. You see them dangling from the belts of fancy ladies in historical paintings.
2. "Armenian soil" is a super weird one. It's often called "bolus armenus." It's literally just a kind of red, iron-rich clay found mostly in Armenia that was used in medicines and as a reddish pigment. No modern medical uses persist.
3. "Bezoars" are mentioned in Harry Potter, I think, so the concept is a bit more familiar. A bezoar is a mass of compacted, undigested matter lodged somewhere in the digestive tract. Bezoars are most common in ruminant animals because of their complicated digestive system. The mass itself was generally formed from a mix of hair/fur, cellulose plant fibers, seeds and other things swallowed by the animal. They were so compact and hard that they could be polished and used in jewelry. Ugly jewelry that is extremely gross to think about. Bezoars were thought to neutralize all poisons, kind of like a poor man's unicorn horn.
4. I have no idea what "green lilac bark" would be. Lilacs (genus _Syringa)_ aren't native to Poland, but will do just fine in that climate so had already been brought in from the Balkans (via the Ottomans) and then cultivated by the end of the 16th century. It's also _very_ possible that the term is referring to a different plant. There are a bunch of plants with common names that include the word "lilac," including "Indian lilac" (aka neem oil tree). But the "green" part might just refer to harvesting the bark before the plant blooms (which was a pretty normal bark-harvesting instruction).
5. "Field cumin" could likewise refer to a bunch of things in the family _Apiaceae_ (a very large plant family which includes cumin, carrots, caraway, dill, parsley, celery, coriander, fennel, parsnip, plus a _huge_ number of toxic plants, like poison hemlock). I can't even begin to guess which one the author was talking about.
6. "Ruffi Ephesii" refers to an ancient Greek physician and writer named Rufus of Ephesus. I assume he had some sort of well-known, cure-all pill recipe that this author is referring to.
7. Imported food (including fancy and exotic spices) was definitely a thing throughout Europe by the early 1600s. In Poland, Gdansk was the major coastal trade port, and the Vistula River was navigable for ships all the way to Krakow. Citrus travels quite well (same as it does in modern times) and would probably have been a pretty easy fruit to get hold of (if you had money). Lemons and oranges were mostly coming from Spain, Italy, and the Middle East. Limes would probably only have come from Persia, so would be harder to get. Pomegranates were also originally from Persia, but adapted quickly to other Mediterranean climates so would be available for the wealthy. Some exotic goods were preserved ahead of time, like capers and olive oil. Almonds and other exotic nuts would also travel extremely well.
Anyway. Long ramble from me. I loved the video!
I don't know why this comment isn't noticed much... This was much needed! thanks
@@Aphelia. I only posted the comment last night, but thanks for noticing it! 😘
Very instructive, thank you!
Do you know if there is any known actual use to bezoar?
@@Siriastimeflies I don't think there are any scientifically verified uses for bezoars. It's just a weird lump of compacted gunk. (I think I remember someone theorizing that some might be able to absorb arsenic from a liquid, but I don't know if it was ever properly tested.)
Wow that was very interesting thank you so much for the information ☺️💓
My god as a person who speaks a Slavic language I'm literally thrilled by the amount of words I understand. Not that I didn't expect it but my country isn't that close to Poland and I can still understand like 20-30% of the words.
_Same here_ (Czech)
It's because our languages used to be one, but it got separated due to (not only) battles of the tribes. The clue is that the book is old enough when the languages didn't have so much association with other, non Slavic ones. It is said that when polish kings were taking a man (Jadwiga) or a woman as a wife or husband from other Slavic countries (for example Lithuania), they could understand each other speaking different languages enough to communicate well. I know you probably knew all this, but let me carry on to the last conclusion. There are actually a lot of archaisms in the read text, for granted the grammatical structure of the sentences (which also made Karolina struggle with understanding the outcome) or words like przyrodzenie (nature, health, body, possibly something like Chinese 身体), which nowadays is considered a human genitalia, we also use zdrowie, ciało, natura ciała to express the given meaning in the text. The fact that you understand many words is possible because of our languages being the same one in the past as well as changing them basing on each other e.g. ręka, ruka, rôka, рук'а and so on. Your language could also have more words remaining from the past than polish has already, which is really fascinating! I assume your country has more cultural works of art found. Thank you for reading, I think I got too excited than it was needed hahah
and also, what is your country, if I may ask?
@@ohmysmallhuman3779 I'm from Bulgaria and thank you for the long explanation. You really know a lot on the topic!
@@Marina-tn1tz omg I've been to Bulgaria before covid! It's really lovely. Just as expected, your country had a big artistic increase in Middle Ages. The Golden Age, as I found out just now hah. I have classes about worldwide artworks from Middle Ages and right when we started talking about polish literature from that period, the professor explained the history of languages and so in order to focus on the works properly, we proceeded to look more carefully at the proto-Slavic language. The professor though is very strict but it makes me know more and be interested in it more myself so I literally wrote a whole paragraph haha. Glad you liked it though! I really hope I'll be having more about your country at my classes, I'm really curious now. Have a great day!
@@ohmysmallhuman3779 Thank you, have a great day too! It's really fascinating to see how foreigners think of my country, so thank you both for all that interesting knowledge you shared with me and for the curious insight on things from your point of view!
"I'm just having a historical breakdown here"
IS MY ETERNAL MOOD
This just explains my mood when reading historically inaccurate texts-
Literally me whenever someone mislabels stays as a corset
Me when my mom insisted that crinolines are corsets lmao
Ah ha! I knew Iheard her right! Hilarious!
What does that even mean
That moment when you realise that the Polish survival guide is nearly twice as old as the United States 🤔
Oh my, my comment got hearted. This is the happiest moment in my life.
Wait, that's actually quite sad isn't it?
Considering how little social interaction we have these days (at least in my country), it's absolutely appropriate)
Also the Polish language doesn't seem to have changed much in 400+ years?
@@NortherlyK actually it's a lot different from the language spoken nowadays in Poland :)
@@CherryWisienka meaning Karolina is just THAT good. ;)
sebastian is giving me strong astrology girl energy. in 2020 he would be tweeting about how pisces are immune to covid
probably not, i mean he is a doctor
@@toastedcloud2612
Doctors at the time were very related to shaman herbalist, so I doubt that Sebastián would be considered a doctor (maybe more a guru lol)
as a pisces who didn’t get covid and is now fully vaccinated, yes
Thats a little too accurate lol
haha im a pisces and i havent got covid yet
im not even vaccinated 👹
I'm impressed by how well you understand 400 year old language. I'm totally lost when trying to read my language (Swedish) from the same time period.
We learn about old works at school so we have quite a bit of exposure to different iterations of our language
Also Swedish has changed a huge amount just in the last 100 years. A friend's grandfather emigrated from Sweden to US, and when he went back to Sweden to visit some 40-50 years later, no one could understand him and he couldn't understand them. Per the family legend. But knowing how much the language did change in the 20th century, it is plausible story.
The language itself is not tooo far off from modern Polish, what is impressive though is that she can read that font so easily.
@@fionad9913 that’s really interesting!
Cause she is a time traveler, duh
I'm Russian, so whenever I hear Polish my brain goes like 'I know these sounds... I'm supposed to understand these words... But why doesn't it make sense????' Love the language, very beautiful to listen to! 😊
im Polish but i don't even understand bc it's old,people don't talk like this anymore
This is literally me, a student learning Spanish whenever I see/hear Portugese
I am Polish and live in Germany and everybody here are surprised that i don't understand russian😅 i know maybe few words but that's all...
@@Anonymous-fb1qu Can confirm, us spanish speakers feel the same with other romance languages
It's more close to the Ukrainian than to the Russian.
Doctor in 1613: ''This is written for simple folk ("proste ludzie")''
Also Doctor in 1613: ''eat lemons and pomegranate and bring Armenian soil as a remedy against the plague''
Sounds like these "easy" recipes nowadays, which then ask for the strangest/wildest ingredients
Why Armenian soil? How? Do they eat or- What?
@@hobistinyheartbag There is a particular red clay only found in Armenia and the surrounding area that was used to make red pigments and as a sealant commercially but medicinally it would be applied to wounds and skin infections as it worked as an astringent and would help to stop bleeding, dry out the skin to prevent infection, and for the wound to properly heal. Internally people put it in medicines to help with gastrointestinal problems although it often contained heavy metals that are toxic to humans, so a bad idea.
Simple folk is actually "prości ludzie" ,in this context "prostych ludzi" :D
@@soniad9390 yeah I don't know Polish, I know Russian very well and it's kinda similar but not the same... and in cyrillic
Can we appreciate the blouse she made herself 🥺
Queen 😌💕
Us in COVID times: It's so annoying to have to stay six feet away from everyone!
Doctors in the 17th century: five miles is not sufficient.
Now, Ms. Żebrowska, we know this was a guide you owned. You did not just "stumble across it." C'mon, we know you've been around since the first water clock.
Omg lol this is a great comment-
she probably wrote it and is roasting it to throw us off her trail
1613 medival poland: *"uh stay home so u dont get sick"*
people in 2021: *did you mean: party in the bahamas*
Just to clarify - XVI Poland is not medieval anymore, but still behind west (medieval ages ended XV)
@@fum4491 Just to clarify - 1613 is not XVI wiek, but XVII wiek.
The part about people being "dry, wet, cold, or hot" is tied to the ancient theory of "four humours", and that an imbalance of those can cause sickness - there's a really good episode of Sawbones podcast on this in case you'd like to know more.
Sawbones have some truly fascinating episodes and should definitely have more listeners.
Being a long time Sawbones fan prepared me for this video ✌️
When she is talking about her "ancestors", she is actually having dark flashbacks of her life
Karolina speaking Polish literally puts me in a trance. it's so pretty
She should do asmr :)
I was just listening to and not watching this and I thought “oh dang I won’t be able to understand what she’s saying” but she started reading and I was hooked anyway
Right?!
Mee too, and im from Poland
Polish language is healing
I bet Karolina is actually a 1930 woman who traveled 90 years into the future and liked gen z vibe, memes and slang, so she learnt how to fit in it
Like that movie Lost In Austen, Lizzy gets switched with the main character and fits right in to our time (I think she's working as a nanny and looking at going to University when the protagonist gets back and they decide to swap permanently, weird movie but that part I thought was Yep)
Nobody likes GenZ
@@Willowtree82 alot do 😃
@@Willowtree82 Nobody likes GenZ...
...Nobody likes millennials, nobody likes boomers...
nobody likes nobody.
...and everybody lived happily ever after.
Shes more millenial herself but I think she appeals to both generations
Karolina Żebrowska: “The pinnacle of life is to be cold and dry.”
Me: “So...dead?”
I am very cold and dry... Almost feel dead sometimes. I guess I should be calm then 😅 I get colds easy but never really sick so maybe there is something to it?
I love the Polish language. Live in Iceland and I always love listening to it. Some of the kindest people I've met as well. Please read more weird Polish manuals. owo
That's it, a new playlist of Karolina reading old books.
@@shylockwesker5530 YES!!
a few years back there was a viral post on tumblr saying that Poland was largely spared by the plague because Polish people mostly have blood type 0, which protected the population from the plague as this blood type wasn't prone to the disease. However I asked my polish mom about this and she told me, that is was because polish households had so many cats back then that killed all the mice and rats carrying the disease
Ok, that makes sense
The cat version makes more sense xD
My blood type is O, so bad because mosquitoes love O blood best. But good for disease resistance (malaria maybe not)
had no idea about that
that's interesting
Wait, I saw something that said that there were living alot of Jewish people and there washed themselves more often compared to the Christians xD
Bless the Poles and their ability to pronounce multiple consonants in a row.
Lots of the letter 'z', for sure.
@@user-iz8np3vv4i Those 'z' work like 'h' in English. (Englisz)
However there are actually many consonant clusters. Example: Pshchowa (Pszczoła) a bee
@@mastermati773 I heard someone say many years ago
that there was someone Polish in the area that had a
name with only consonants and no vowels.
Anyway, I really should know Polish, but I only learned
a few phrases.
thanks
@@maximusfantabulous2559 Don't know what that means.
Anyway my parents know Polish, but I only learned a few phrases.
In America if there are 2 languages in a owner's manual, for
example, the 2 will always be English and Spanish. If anyone
says America should have a national language, that's called
racist. Everything is becoming what is called, woke. It would
be nice if I learned Polish now, but I'm too old and lazy for that.
The fact that it's written in old Polish makes it sound like a weird philosophy poem and it's hilarious
Me, an anemic person with low blood pressure which makes me always cold and dry skin as well: FINALLY SOME APPRECIATION
Yes I felt that I was good for once! 😅 Cold and dry sounds just like me!
Everybody wanna be hot and wet, but my dude just went nah it's better to be cold and dry
ikr, i just went, PREACH IT BROTHER
He's got an ally in Ben Shapiro then!
think Edward Cullen amd it starts to make sense
We stan a dry skinned king
@@watchdominion7356 P*nis Shortpino
Meme mom saying that her speaking in English and in Polish sound like two different hers, is hilarious to me since I have normal English me, customer service English me, and Spanish me.
Different personas 😂?
'customer service english' ahahahahah that's so true tho when at school/work im never as flamboyant
Lmao me too
I have Hindi me, Punjabi+English me, English me, gaming English me, client English me(software Dev here)
I have Syrian me, Arabic me, English me, Spanish me, and lastly Screaming me.
okay but "wrzody złe, czarne i ogniste" ( ulcers bad, black and fiery) got me laughing so hard i fell of a chair
Mikołaj Lob was a medical publisher active in 17C Cracow. Being the same guy who was involved into a big financial scandal while printing the famous _Herb_ _Atlas_ _of_ _Dr._ _Simon_ _Syrenius_ in 1613.
We have Syrenius' herb book at work as well Compendium ferculorum. It's fascinating! 😅
Ok, so the servant making a clothing haul in 1608 apparently followed these rules and now she's a ghost at Wawel castle
Hot. Cold. Wet. Dry. Long ago the four nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Hot Nation attacked.
Love this
Man somehow I feel like it’s the wet/damp nation that ruins everything
“This is both terrifying and hilarious.”
Ah, hilarifying then. Posilutely excellastic.
Holy sheet the vocab in this sentence is * 🤌👌*
Everyone's talking about the content of the video, and I'm just over here mesmerized by how well her lipstick matches her blouse.
I got to this comment just as I was thinking the same, lol
As a Pole I'm very impressive how Karolina can immediately switch from ancient Polish (which is so hard for me to read and sometimes to understand) to English on such high level. That's just impressive. Love ya Mom
It's not any "ancient" Polish
@@kak3934 Well i don't think we use all those word variations in a daily life. I'm not talking here about dialects cause they are different, but most of the Polish people don't use the form of language that were used then. (:
@@juliamonik4835 It's just a bit archaic, it's not 13th century "ancient Polish" or anything
@@juliamonik4835 The proper therm is "Old Polish". Form of Polish language used between XVI to XVIII century.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 so if I will use "old Polish" it will be good? ((:
thanks to your thumbnail, all i can imagine is a bird-faced plague doctor sitting at a desk, trying to figure out what to write to all these people begging for answers, coming up with half the things on the spot and now and then taking a sip of some homemade anti-plague remedy to keep that plague away long enough to get the book published.
NGAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA
karolina: yeah so he’s basically saying like **speaks polish**
me who only knows spanish and english: uhhh👁👄👁
Turn on subtitles
23:59 I think he might be talking about King Mithridates of Pontus. He was a king from the Black Sea kingdom of Pontus who fought the Roman Republic, He was famous for making himself immune to every poison by tasting small amounts. He is also said to have created a universal antidote
DAMN
Now THAT was brain stimulation.
Reading english and listening to polish, when my first language is absolutely diferent from both, and still be able to understand it. My English teacher would be proud
I was thinking the same :) It’s as if my brain is in gymmode
Native Russian, fluent in English and currently learning Danish. I concur, this video is good for challenging one's brain)
it's worth mentioning that this language is a veeeery old Polish language because I'm a native Polish speaker and I can't read a single word and the syntax is really weird it's hard to understand anything hahaha
Well, I'm just an English teacher, but you bet I'm super proud of you right now!
same haha
I like how he keeps reminding the reader: this is something that mankind still doesn't understand, we don't have any reliable reasoning, we're just trying out whatever experience suggests.
These days its common to act like everyone in the past was an idiot stubbornly convinced of some nonsensical belief, but actually they seemed to be perfectly intelligent homo-sapiens who were perfectly aware that their science still had a long way to go and that they just had to do the best with what they had.
He didn't realise he was onto the key technique of modern medicine: trial and error, with careful observation and recording of the results. There was little progress until doctors stopped believing the ancient theories in the 18th and 19th centuries and started looking into what works.
People today think they're more intelligent and civilized than the past. We forget that we're here today because of people in the past having the brains and skills to live through much harsher conditions than we can live in today. Send a lot of 21st century people, who think they're better than their ancestors, a couple hundred years into the past and their ability to survive would be low.
@@SuperKatiki True. But the reverse would be true as well. Bring an 11th century person forward and they would not be able to survive either.
@@adorabell4253 i think they would if instructed about where to buy stuff etc. 21st century person woulf have more trouble imo
@@junomcgaff3479 If today's person was instructed where to buy stuff they would be fine too. This isn't about teaching someone how to live a different lifestyle, we know that people today can learn survival skills pretty quickly, and tons of people garden, sew, go camping, etc. The question is surviving after being thrown into a totally different society with no help whatsoever. It would be about the same, though modern man may have a slight advantage simply by knowing what the past was like, even in broad strokes, while a person from 1000 years ago might legitimately have a mental crisis. They would either think they got into heaven or hell.
For me polish is the french of the slavic languages, so piękniful💙
As a Czech person I can proudly say that I understood most of the polish and I’m proud of myself for it
as a Polish person i can only congratulate you, because i understood like 80% of that book
Old Polish and old Czech was more similar to each other than it is now ;)
@@JustynaGx That is so cool
I am Polish and I understand Czech and Slovak quite well, the fact I live 80 km from Ostrava and I know silesian dialect can be helpful as well
"Let's try this & hope for the best" literally how chronic illnesses are treated now as well.
Yep
Sure feels that way, though I do hope my docters have a little more understanding of the human body..
Add mental illness to the list :,)
You're forgetting about the part where they charge you like they helped you
@@bruh-mb1rd and their terrible writing
Me after realizing that my south facing flat is all humid after hanging my laundry: 👁👄👁
Shit! You're gonna get the bubonic plague!
My guess is that south-facing was bad because it meant being sunlit. Nowadays we see that as a good thing. Maybe the rich wanted to stay pale then? Now even Donald Trump advocates "strong light."
@@faithlesshound5621 Most of what he was saying was tangential to actual good advice and logical stuff. So if south-facing houses are sunlit, then you might shut your windows to not get blinded as you work. That keeps fresh air out and traps moisture and heat.
Which (the hot and moist thing xD) he did have a point about: If your _house_ is warm and moist, then bacteria will have an easier time. So will fungi. If you then get the plague, you would be prone to fungal or bacterial secondary infection and unlikely to survive.
Keeping yourself dry and cool also makes fungi and bacteria less likely to grow on your skin, from where they can then make their way inside if you catch the plague.
That's my theory, at least! :D
@@Reicha It would be nice to think that he was speaking from experience, since nobody knew about bacteria and fungi in his time. But I suspect he was merely extrapolating from the humoral theory guff. I doubt that Poles were worried about being blinded by sunlight.
@@faithlesshound5621 In the past peasant women worked at the field and were sunburned as an aristocracy and noble women prefered to be pale. Then opposite they were forced to work in dark mills so to differ high society women made a fashion of sunbathing.
This video made me want to go back to learning Polish. Polish is probably the coolest-sounding (and coolest-looking) language in the world.
Ahah, do it ! ^^
I feel like attracted to that langage as well, I wish to try to learn Polish
and it appears we share the same name, that amuses me...
I´m Slovak, so I understand some of the Polish words and listening to Polish while reading English subtitles just threw me into another dimension for a moment
It's written in some sort of old, formal speech so it's hard to read even for me
I think the “suffocate from joy” might refer to like when you are laughing too hard and you can’t breathe.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too
Me, obsessed with medieval Europe: He was all about THE H U M O U R S !
1613 is not Middle Ages even by Polish standards. ;P
@@paunitka7 No, I know, lol. But the way the symptoms are interpreted and treatments are chosen is based in humoural theory, which flourished in medieval Europe and the Islamic Golden age, which is how I have learned about it.
@@NOCTURNALCURVES Doesn't the humoural theory date back to antiquity even? Not sure now, would need to check.
@@paunitka7 It does! I'm really not very well informed on that period, so my introduction was via medieval Europe. You're right though I think it came from the philosopher's of antiquity.
@@NOCTURNALCURVES Yes, you can find the humours in ancient Greek medical texts, going back to Hippocrates, developed in Galen and Soranus. Illness was a matter of the balance of bodily fluids, which when out of balance created illness. This dominated medicine in Europe and the Middle East until the development of modern medicine.
I think that "Pontius King" he mentions might be King Mithridates VI of Pontus who was famous for eating so much poison he became immune to poison?
The “perfume apple” is referring to a “pomander” (aka “apple of amber”) which was basically a perfume ball, usually made of ambergris and varying herbs/ oils that was kept in a round, ball shaped case (commonly silver) that acted as a diffuser. the name “pomander” is used to describe both the contents and the vessel. People who could not afford a pomander would often spice and actual apple, and use twine or ribbon as a way of holding and carrying it, so all descriptions provided are correct.
*Somehow this makes the current pandemic more embarrassing,* because back then people were spread bad info.
Nowadays people are given good info, but just reject it.
I think it also has to do with not seeing plague-infected people dying in the street 😬
If it was ebola or young-killer maboi...
So right.
Some still believe it's made-up...
The book actually was quite smart, and a lot can really still apply in general life :) maybe not for plague, but...? Lol
*Me with dry skin that's been getting worse through the pandemic learning I'm less susceptible to plague*: 👁👄👁
Omg same! But why is our skin getting worse, is there a 17th c. Polish doctor who can explain?
@@Taki_toad if anyone out there happens to know one, please let us know, we need answers!
Same. Today, for instance, my hands are so rough I could sand wood. My cats think it's worse than their wire brush -- which they love. I can exfoliate my kids, no problem. Got a fish that needs scaling -- one swipe of my hands and it's done!
@@babelfish311 Maybe you should just eat a lemon, if that doesn't work try not opening your southern windows and your skin should be fine in about a week or two
Overly dry skin that's cracked with damaged moisture barrier increases the chance of infections. (Washing with warm, not hot, water and moisturizing can help). I am guessing that back then, when hygiene wasn't as regular as today, sweat harbored bacteria more.
We need a video where Karolina just reads something in Polish.
I'd turn it on when i need some good ambience 🥰
What's wild is that fleas need like 50% humidity to survive and they're more active in the heat....so keeping your house cold and dry is decent advice tbh
Okay but can we take a moment to appreciate how fast is Karolina able to read this??? I’m Polish but the font is so weird I would be struggling for hours to read and understand one sentence.
Yes
And jumping right into English after. A true meme mom queen
She is Truly Brilliant 😍
I was looking for that comment, because that really struck me, and I studied linguistics.
yesss, and I’m also confused when I hear Polish and English. I’m surprised that I can understand both 😂
The note about the animals leaving their burrows is interesting to me, because I live where there are prairie dogs, and the bubonic plague does still circulate through the prairie dog population. You can tell when the plague has gone through because a once-thriving prairie dog town will suddenly be empty, except for a few here and there. (we don't have to worry about it spreading to us because we don't have rats in our houses bringing the fleas inside)
Also it's interesting the herbs he mentions, because a lot of them can work as rudimentary insect repellant.
So when he says the animals are "leaving" and not coming back or coming back way later, they've actually all died from plague.
@@NoiseDay certainly could be, imo
But do you have dogs or outdoor cats? They could bring back fleas.
@@fredericapanon207 we have dogs, but they're outdoor working dogs and animals do not come into our house. It's really not much of a danger at all
“The pinnacle of life is to be cold and dry.”
*Weeps in warm, moist Southern Californian.*
!!! The fragment about dried raisins and plums eaten before the meal makes so much sense! The customary thing to drink in Poland when you have big feasts (like Christmas dinner and stuff) is kompot z suszu = a drink from dried fruit that incredibly boosts digestion
The "lack of a fever" may be referring to something we call "febrícola" in Spanish. Basically your body doesn't goes hot enough to be considered a fever, but you feel as tho you have a fever. Your body aches and you feel either really hot or really cold, your head usually hurts or you feel very dizzy. You may be shivering but if someone touches you, you clearly aren't hot as if you had a fever. It usually precedes the actual fever (tho some people, myself included, tend to stay stuck on that stage and not get to the fever part)
We have that concept in Filipino too! We call that sinat or binat (can't remember which of them are the right term). We Filipinos really do borrow a lot from the Spanish.
We call it "febbricola" in italian :) so cool
In Danish we call this ‘koldsved’ literally ‘cold sweat’
That's a thing? Thank goodness, I'm not crazy 😅😂
In German its called "Schüttelfrost" - "shaking-frost" :))
Some of the 'complexion' parts almost sound like they are talking about the four humors but also not lol
I was thinking it was the four humors too but when I saw your comment I thought about it a bit more and realised that the humors are based on a combination of heat and moisture levels (if I remember correctly there's sanguine (hot and wet), choleric (hot and dry), phlegmatic (cold and dry) and melancholic (cold and wet)) and you're right, that's not the same as "hot people, cold people, humid people and dry people," which is what this doctor seems to be saying.
This was written after they could open dead bodies for science (before HenryVIII it was forbidden) this is during the Elizabethan time so science was still very basic and the 4 humours was still a concept adopted by European kingdoms.
Actually the humors were sometimes called these things! You can look up hot cold wet dry humors to see a diagram of them all
Ooh I was thinking the same thing!
I was thinking the same. Maybe the took the idea for this concept from the humor thingy
It's remarkable how little Polish has changed since 1600s for her to read (and understand) it so effortlessly. I remember trying to read old 16th century texts in Portuguese for Literature classes in High School and it didn't even feel like the same language we speak today. It souded more like a very broken Spanish.
"oh AKSHUALLY i think you should just eat a lemon"
I died.
My grandmother does still believe that the illness is "in the air". She dropped out of primary school while Rosalind Franklin was still busy irradiating samples, and she never got further educated. It really is terrible, because she thinks that she might catch the illness by staying out on the balcony.
Listen if that keeps her home, away from actual people that may have covid-19 maybe not so bad. Silver linings...?
Covid19 is in the air. It's an airborne virus. You can catch it from people's breath.
@@Didleeios88 yes, but it doesn't move like some big covid cloud, which is what it sounds like she believes
@@Didleeios88 you can catch it from the breath of an infected person IF you are close enough. It doesn't enter your house through an open window.
@@mothma_am l mean, with so many bad news nowadays, l wouldnt be surprised if suddenly we got "cloud of pure covid" to worry about.
i am convinced this was actually written by a butcher. the advice is perfect for making an ideal smoked ham
😅🤣
Lol that’s hilarious
💀
I get the feeling by "humid person" he means "sweaty person".
the "suffocating" part in the "joy" paragraph might be about dying of laughter ? Although I'm not a native Polish nor English speaker.
When Meme Mum teaches you more about the plague in 31.49 then the history teacher that taught you in a whole year of classes xD
"Don't listen to this guy, I caught it all the same! Also, I want a refund for the book!"
i mean she is the time traveller after all
I've learned more with Meme Mum's videos than I've learned in my entire Zoom classes since the pandemic started
They have the advantage of not having to deal with an army of uninterested sleepy heads at 8 am
we never learned about the plague in school... or anything about other countries. We only learned about one era in our country (American history class at my school sucks)
“If the venom gets to your heart, it is over, it is o v e r”
ah yes.
17th century polish inspires me somehow. I just want to say Mam głowy bolenie ciężkie instead of I've got a headache
God really said "ROUND 2 BABY LETS GOOOOOO!!" on the plague
Perfumed apple is a pomander, a ball or perforated container of aromatic substances. It can be an interior accessory or a jewellery piece. It was popular as a portable perfume to cover body smells. Btw, you can find modern versions to buy, usually very intricate designs.
@@AlexaY82 please link the video!! i am interested
Like potpourri?
@@AlexaY82 thank you much 📚✨
@@AlexaY82 i’m sure a lil marination could do the trick just fine! thanks for the lil bits of advice/info :-)
Yeah! An older way to do it was shove some cloves in an apple or orange. I hate cloves so much... I would have no chance
I think when he refers to "wet" it has to do with the Greek theory of "humors", or this kinds of "liquids" that govern the body and that they have to be balanced for you to be healthy
Yup, all that wet and dry and eating and living to make you dry or wet is four humors stuff.
It also reminded me of the doshas in ayurveda, of which there are only 3, but I never knew about the 4 humors before
I was just thinking about that, like "is this about the 4 humours"?
@George Corbul Yup. Now I have.
It's like an updated version of the Greek idea of humors. Hot and cold make sense - lots of people are prone to feeling too hot or too cold. I wonder if the wet refers to too much phlegm, mucous, allergies, respiratory problems, etc.
I really like that you read it in Polish instead of trying to interpret every word as you read it. Also Polish Karolina is just as awesome as English Karolina.
I think the whole obsession with stopping people from oversleeping was probably cause depression would probably be a huge issue. which would make sense with the "thinking about the plague brings you closer to it" line.
Yeah, also I’m prone to oversleeping when feeling depressed one time I was barely physically able to stop sitting and walk-
Plus not sleeping properly affects your immune system, which would bring people at risk for the plague so he's not that far off....
I'm Polish and I don't have any problems with understanding this old text but I'm really impressed how easily you can read that font.😲 Szacun Pani Karolino. 👍
Same
her: SUFFOCATE? he's basically saying you can be too happy and suffocate... 😂
me: WHAT?! THATS HILARIOUS! *chokes and dies from laughing*
My shitty EDS having body actually is at risk from this. If I laugh too much (or even breathe a bit "wrong" though how its wrong varies because of course) then my lungs sort of just collapse. Because of shitty faulty collagen. Yay. There have been a few occasions where I've almost fainted from lack of oxygen because my lungs wouldn't reopen properly. Recovery position fixes it thankfully. Lets my lungs fall back open just enough that I can breathe again. Tends to only be those really really funny jokes you can't stop laughing at that cause it luckily.
@@AlexaFaie Yeah, but it's really weird that he's talking about people in general. Maybe there were much more cases of EDS back then, who knows. I hope you are doing well. Unfortunately it's not a widely known condition.
That saying had to come from somewhere lol
@@juliapalos2077 I'm deteriorating quicker than I was a few years ago, but other than that I'm fine. Its just bloody typical that by the time I started getting my mental health better controlled my body decided to accelerate the falling apart at the joints process. Eventually I'll be a totally mentally stable brain floating in space with just limbs scattered around. Maybe. 😂🤣
Dying of laughter is a legit thing in Sims 4, and it's seriously annoying because it's stupid-easy to get a sim into "hysterical" mode without realizing it.
The Polish sounds so lyrical it's amazing. Like I'm having a Very Bad Brain Day and people talking is messing with me real bad, but the Polish parts didn't upset me at all? Not to say that your English is at all bad, I'm just weird today.
I have autism with sensory processing disorder and I FELT this comment.
@@bluelagoon1980 Necroing, but I just got diagnosed with autism and adhd this year so.... I probably should have suspected something lol
He was almost onto some thing a few times. Also I think when he said suffocating from being too happy, I’m guessing he meant laughing too hard
the contrast between Karolina speaking English and Polish is throwing me off
I keep missing the bits where I need to pay attention to the subtitles or I won't understand what it is she's saying. Her voice is so lovely!
I like the 'self-reflecting during the edit' Karolina too!
Can we just have a moment of appreciation for Karolina and her amazing reading skills? Polish is my native language, but reading this old piece od history I would stutter as if I was reading Egyptian hieroglyphs! 👏
It's beyond me how she can read this font. Especially since it is written in archaic language. Impressive 👏
Actually, it was easier for me to understand by reading english subtitles 😂
I recognize some of these concepts from humoral medicine, which was practiced from ancient times, starting with Hippocrates (b. circa 460 BC). I believe I heard Karolina cite Hippocrates in the reading.
The four complexions correspond to the four humours. The types were: phlegmatic (cold and wet); sanguine (hot and wet); choleric (hot and dry); and melancholic (cold and dry). Plague times were difficult for doctors for many reasons. Not only was there a deluge of patients, the doctor was at personal risk--leading to the frightening "plague doctor" trope of the well-wrapped bird-beaked physician. To top it all, traditions of the day dictated that doctors were only paid by patients who recovered and were satisfied with their medical treatment.
I could listen to you speaking Polish forever, such a beautiful language.
Your ability to transfer your brain switch from "mother tongue" to "foreign language i know well" unnoticably, is truly admirable!
My brain is going to explode. I am Czech so I kind of understand, but I try to read the English subtitles at the same time to ACTUALLY understand. So at the end my brain is listening for a second, reading for a second, listening for a second and so on :D
Maybe turn on Czech captions, it will work better for you ;) Spróbuj ;)
Lmao I am Ukrainian and have the same problem. Understanding most of it gets disrupted with subtitles but without them I miss a few important words.
That's me watching an English language documentary dubbed in French. I'm simultaneously trying to listen to the French and the English and I end up not understanding either 😂
Hi, i am from Brazil, i found your chanel recently. This book reminds me that my mom had an old medicine tips book, and I found it funny that most of the tips revolved around using lemon or lemon juice for everything, and lots of mud baths. I think the writer only had mud and a lemon tree at home.
I really admire how easily you switch from Polish to English - in one sentence, what?! I always need a pause when switching.
Oh it's so funky to see Polish with so much Latin influence, the alternate spellings, long s, and weird ę.
oh btw morowe powietrze is miasma in English I think
edit: when he's talking about complexions I think he might be tieing it to the theory of opposites and the four humours
Miasme in French, yes
Yeah that's what I thought too! The four humours
miasma in english is correct! sometimes we say ‘vapour’
You are right it 100% is about the 4 humors. All of the smell things is also just because they believed that the bad smells literally brought the disease so perfume was an actual prevention method.
Totes. Even quotes Hippocrates, but this makes sense: The Humors would be the basis of medicine until Germ Theory comes about in the late 19th century.
The emphasis on humidity/wetness makes some sense since the fleas that spread the disease reproduce and do way better in warm and humid weather. Also when it’s warm and humid it seems like cuts don’t heal as fast and if you don’t have refrigeration then food rots faster: a lot of bacteria and fungi thrive in warm & wet.
Yeah, I mean its not for no reason that most food packaging (and anything else which gets consumed like medications) says to store in a cool, dry environment. Plus whilst the first plague was spread by the fleas, later plagues were spread person to person (it mutated enough to become airborne) and the bacteria could thrive in droplets of water like you'd have in a warm and damp environment. They might not have understood exactly why it was bad to have the warm damp air, but it most definitely was.
I think he also might mix plague with ergotism. That type of fungus needs cold humid weather to grow.
Keeping your food cold and dry was probably more difficult (and important) in ancient Greece than later Poland.
@@faithlesshound5621 it’s kind of hard (and useless) to start comparing things like that. Just speculation but e.g. in greece you could’ve probably sun-dried a lot of things in the summer (hot, dry) better than in poland which isn’t as dry, and the season for fruits and vegetables is maybe longer in greece? Food preservation is important anywhere and refrigeration really is key, there would be a lot of things we could not have fresh all year round nowadays without refrigeration/freezing. (ofc we still do a lot of pickling, salting, drying, canning etc. for certain things, but also unlike people in ancient Greece or in medieval Poland did, we also understand bacteria, fungi and sterilization much better. Oh and we also have plastics for longer preservation!).
Edit: so I would say, maybe keeping some things cold was more difficult but it’s just as important everywhere, and is even just as important nowadays as in ancient greece, it’s just massively easier now at least in developed countries.
I was so caught of guard by you reading in polish. i’m ukrainian and there are a lot of similarities between these languages, so i was like wait... what is going on
I hope you're safe and well right now. The whole world is thinking about Ukraine, and we know nothing we do could ever be enough.
Now that I think of it, the whole thing with keeping everything and yourself dry and cold makes a lot of sense when you consider the fact that bacteria breeds best in warm and humid environment. Not that they would have known, but it seems intuitively logical.
So here's a funny thing about this dry person being the best. Patients with respiratory problems, especially a condition called acute respiratory distress syndrome, do better when they're kept "dry". By dry, doctors/nurses mean not secreting lots of fluids and not urinating as much. So there is actually some truth to the dry person thing!!!
Also, their concern about the quality of air isn't totally wrong either. Now we know that proper ventilation is very good at preventing disease. That's why there is guidance during covid that if you are forced to be inside with people you should wear masks and open the windows and doors. There's still a risk of spreading the disease but ventilation helps reduce it.
How I social distance: have an argument with myself out loud people will then think I'm weird( I am but that a another story) and avoid me like I have the plague
Or you start coughing like you are already plagued
I do this and my people just shrug and ignore it. My neighbors don't talk to me though...
Most of the time when you say you’re weird, you’re actually basic and want to be special
@@purplepurina honestly i'm tired of ppl saying that. Everyone is special💁
@@purplepurina but if ur actually weird & u dont acknowledge it, people will think ur crazy.... so u just have to admit it sometimes....
I also find it interesting that he suggested willow branches in particular- because willow bark is what aspirin was first made from.
The "plague born in the home" could reference inhabitants of a particular house getting ill from a mold or fungus growing inside, I think. Goodness knows it happens in modern structures.