HEROQUEST Against the Ogre Horde UNBOXING, Overview & Comparison VS Classic

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
  • ...it's here at last, our Against the Ogre Horde quest pack, with a number of HUGE minis and GIANT tiles! Along with it is the new edition of the Quest Book... although outside of the arena quests, it has remained very surprisingly faithful to the original!
    You can order on Hasbro Pulse, Amazon, and by now a host of other retailers. If you don't see them in stock, just give it time -- these are retail now!
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Komentáře • 122

  • @briancross7835
    @briancross7835 Před 6 měsíci +13

    The rug tile really ties the board together.

    • @Grogeous_Maximus
      @Grogeous_Maximus Před 6 měsíci

      For some reason, mine was kind of damp, when I unboxed the set.

  • @B.-T.
    @B.-T. Před 6 měsíci +8

    I love the wolf mini, especially since one of the bonus pulse quests gave the barbarian his own wolf ally, that can now have a proper mini representing her.

  • @CountOrlok22
    @CountOrlok22 Před 6 měsíci +9

    This and "The Frozen Horror" have surpassed even the original GW/MB versions. AH really outdid themselves on these remakes.

    • @josephpotter5766
      @josephpotter5766 Před 6 měsíci +1

      50% agree, 50% disagree. The sculpts, boards and general production values are exceptional. But AH have a MASSIVE problem with not playtesting things, not checking community errata and basically not giving any evidence they actually play their own games. Frozen Horror retained literally every one of the problems with the rules that we've known about for more than thirty years now!
      Sure they botched together an errata document afterwards, but it never made it to print in the box, so there are people out there who are still playing a broken product, because lets face it, a lot of people don't go looking online for errata until after they discover the game is borked, and that leaves a bad taste in their mouths. You would think the damage was done and the lesson would be learned, but no, there are still fundamental problems with this pack too, like the fact they retained the screwed up wording on mind lock, which, again, has been a known fault for more than thirty years! One word, literally adding one word to the cards would fix it. But they didn't because AH have an utterly quixotic desire to be 'authentic' to the game system when it comes to printing the rules in a broken and un-erratad state.

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Have to agree. Wished they'd kept the brutality of the motm ogres but, it was clear they saw it as more of a slog to get through, proving playtesting and attention to community is a priority on their list!

    • @B.-T.
      @B.-T. Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@josephpotter5766 Wait, what errata? I know the free Pulse quest included a few alternate rules and bonus artifacts but I can't find any errata.
      And one mistake with Frozen Horror was upscaling it from 2x1 tp 2x2, now the poor fella can't even navigate his dungeons!

  • @MrBigB312
    @MrBigB312 Před 6 měsíci +5

    31:23 The Warlock and Druid also have the same slightly pointed ears. I heartily agree that the physical features AH uses to distinguish the races strongly support that they are distinctly different than the Dwarves.
    Great unboxing video!

  • @ogremark5
    @ogremark5 Před 6 měsíci +3

    On sale 5 March at Hasbro US and Amazon US. Not sold Amazon Canada. I think Druids are Gnomes or Halflings. They look the most like Larry Elmore art of Kenders from Dragonlance.

  • @iLostAgenToday
    @iLostAgenToday Před 6 měsíci +2

    It’s funny, a year ago I designed for myself a ‘battle mode’ in heroquest, much like duel mode in Golden Axe, where you pick a Hero and battle through levels of monsters, upping in difficulty and quantity, until you win.. or die! And now AH made arena mode! I don’t know who I’m more impressed with 😂 obviously great vid Ash!

  • @elvisg2410
    @elvisg2410 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I live in the UK. The preorders for ATOH went up on the 1st of March I preordered from Hasbro plus UK before they sent out the notification email, and then they delivered it next day. The stock must have been really low, no one else I know managed to bag a copy. I got a second copy from Amazon. Again sold out so quick. Which I gifted to a mate. I dont understand why the stock levels were so poor here. April 8 is a long wait when you know other people are sitting down to play already.

    • @johnhe-yump2938
      @johnhe-yump2938 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yup my local shop won't get it until the end of March. I'm in no rush to get it so I don't mind the wait but it seems odd

    • @RandomPS5Guides
      @RandomPS5Guides Před 6 měsíci +2

      I ordered it 1st March aswell and got it the next day. Very surprised how fast it came. Very happy too

    • @archangel0891
      @archangel0891 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I preordered with Zatu Games last year.. guess im waiting till april🙄

    • @johnhe-yump2938
      @johnhe-yump2938 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Reordered from the outpost. My path of the monk is arriving at the same time, though it says its been shipped to the shop.

    • @ademateer01
      @ademateer01 Před 6 měsíci

      UK pre-order from tritex games, I'm still waiting. I know to order straight from pulse in the future now

  • @aaronbourque5494
    @aaronbourque5494 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I wonder how (or if) the app will be updated for the arena game mode...

  • @Ribby00
    @Ribby00 Před 6 měsíci +7

    LOVE THOSE DOUBLE DOORS

  • @travisfarnes5783
    @travisfarnes5783 Před 6 měsíci +7

    avalon hill needs to do advanced heroquest next

    • @archangel0891
      @archangel0891 Před 6 měsíci +8

      They need to do more ORIGINAL expansions and I wouldnt say no to Space Crusade either👍🏻

    • @B.-T.
      @B.-T. Před 6 měsíci +5

      What about Wizards Of Morcar first?

    • @archangel0891
      @archangel0891 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@B.-T. Take my money

    • @abnercliff9624
      @abnercliff9624 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Advanced heroquest had alot more games workshop ip in it, would probably be difficult. Space crusade doubly so

  • @darthsidious6162
    @darthsidious6162 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Love your channel, Ash! We need a rulebook to "rule 'em all", like in Descent 2nd. Many resources are wasted. :(

  • @TheRendar
    @TheRendar Před 5 měsíci

    So excited that they came out with this expansion. So happy to finally have it. Always have wanted it. Love what Avalon hill has been doing with hero quest. Great unboxing video. Love your channel.

  • @disciple012
    @disciple012 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The druids look like they could be halflings, but I'm thinking they could also be gnomes...

    • @Junior6288
      @Junior6288 Před 2 měsíci

      That’s what I was thinking too!

  • @off1k
    @off1k Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great unboxing.
    It is available at amazon again but still a bit expensive for us Aussies, over $102aud with shipping, will wait.

    • @tims5298
      @tims5298 Před 6 měsíci

      Got mine this morning for 79 and 15 postage to sleepy Perth man

  • @abnercliff9624
    @abnercliff9624 Před 6 měsíci +2

    10 body point ogres would be way too strong, they were unbalanced in the original elf quest expansion and my group always houseruled four hit points anyway

  • @preacherbeeman3437
    @preacherbeeman3437 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice video. It seems to me that the production quality of product has increased a good bit as the expansions have rolled out. Especially since the release of the crowd-funded production.

  • @lucarocks7866
    @lucarocks7866 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Glad you like the remake! You always say it's your favorite!

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +2

      I'm still hyped for future releases, but I do feel particularly jubilant about how this one was done!

    • @lucarocks7866
      @lucarocks7866 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'm glad you got it during the time that Encarmine had input into it. Who knows how HQ will turn out going forward. Just saying!

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yes :,) I know, I know...hopes are high though!

  • @Jarkeld
    @Jarkeld Před 6 měsíci +1

    First, regarding the Druid sculpts - to me, they strike me as Gnomes. The male especially, with the facial hair - gnomes usually have the weird 1800 style mustaches, while halflings had 1800 style beards/mutton chops. Gnomes are often more stocky, like a dwarf, where halflings are more lithe. The second reason why I feel this way is because of the Bard. It always struck me as odd - why make the bard an orc? Why not make another human? Or even an elf? Because when I saw the warlock as a halfling, it hit me - Avalon Hill is owned by Hasbro, who also owns WotC, who bought up TSR, makers of Dungeons and Dragons. They (in my opinion) are doing a little cheeky nod to D&D.
    This is the game that got my OG group into playing AD&D 2E. So, Human Barbarian, Dwarf Fighter, Halfling Warlock, Orc Bard, Gnome Druid, Human Wizard, and Elf Rogue (I'm also aware of the base game Elf, which I see as the anomaly). You throw in the Human Knight/Paladin, and the Human Monk, and the only thing we're missing is a Ranger. Again, this is all just speculation and my own opinions, but the more I thought about that Orc Bard, the more it really bothered me. It wasn't until I saw the new druids and said, "Those are gnomes".
    Okay....the tiles look amazing, and the redone sculpts are fantastic and I look forward to painting! I wonder how many will do the wolf as Snowdasher? Tempting as that is, I'm not sure how I'll paint mine up when I get it. Looking forward to painting that throne and the Ogre Lord especially. I don't know if this has been asked or not, but do any of the tiles line up to be used as a tile for the Arena for Prophecy of Telor (Quest 10) that makes use of such an arena?
    In any case, I look forward to introducing a new group of players to this game, and relive the fun I had back then. What makes it even better is that we only had the base game back then. I easily snatched up all the expansions thus far and look forward to when this hits my door!

  • @HeroQuestFans
    @HeroQuestFans Před 6 měsíci +2

    no pre-order.. just order. I loved it

  • @HeroQuestFans
    @HeroQuestFans Před 6 měsíci +1

    many Reaper Bones ogres are also double wide. 36:44 FACTS

  • @chrisstokoe3169
    @chrisstokoe3169 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The face looks like animal from the Muppets lol once you see it you can't unsee it

  • @carlosbarreto4695
    @carlosbarreto4695 Před 6 měsíci

    I received mine yesterday. But I stored it so well and I'm lazy to go and get the box, so I'm here to look again at it's components. And of course to see your comments. 😊

  • @danroberts007
    @danroberts007 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you for this look at Against the Ogre Horde. I don't have my copy yet, but should sometime soon-ish. I haven't been able to find an official errata document for The Frozen Horror expansion, do you have a link for it? The Hasbro Pulse website isn't great for finding these Heroquest extras. I've found 4 extra missions (A New Beginning, Forsaken Tunnels, Into the Northlands and Knightfall) but that's it. I wish they made it easier to find stuff, but it's mostly just a webstore. 😕
    EDIT: Did some poking around on Ye Olde Inn and I think the errata you mention is in the "Into the Northlands" bonus mission? Also found one more mission (Rogar's Hall) while I was there, so it was a profitable journey. :-)

  • @SgtHouse
    @SgtHouse Před 6 měsíci +2

    I was correct that they will add new titles months ago, as well as a plastic throne! Now for a new updated game board next!
    As always, great video and unboxing!

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I endorse, support, and hope for this prediction!

  • @davidcolley5656
    @davidcolley5656 Před 6 měsíci

    I ordered from Pulse and just unboxed my own copy! Thanks Ash!

  • @Machamp-ps7wx
    @Machamp-ps7wx Před 5 měsíci

    I just ordered mine since I only have one additional class and wanted to get my hands on at least one big expansion.

  • @chrishosa7983
    @chrishosa7983 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent content as always Ash. Waiting for my copy of ATOH

    • @chrishosa7983
      @chrishosa7983 Před 6 měsíci

      Hey Ash,
      To keep the door open, or partially open, how about using a toothpick? Just a thought

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      This is exactly the kind of idea I knew folks might come up with, brilliant!

  • @Mark-nh2hs
    @Mark-nh2hs Před 6 měsíci

    Those stone doors (with the stone face) would be great in your living moving door creatures.

  • @Gorbz
    @Gorbz Před 5 měsíci

    I've been waiting for this ever since the relaunch! It was my favorite original expansion!

  • @HeroQuestFans
    @HeroQuestFans Před 5 měsíci +1

    #1 video on Ashquest

  • @user-xr2bm8nl6q
    @user-xr2bm8nl6q Před 5 měsíci

    HI Ash I just got my copy from Amazon UK and it's great I now have 8 expansions and 2 hero collections plus the main game i hope they bring out more quest packs

  • @HeroQuestFans
    @HeroQuestFans Před 5 měsíci +1

    blowing up!!!!

  • @user-ph4kn5tp9h
    @user-ph4kn5tp9h Před 6 měsíci +1

    The blurriness is probably due to the original tile being scanned instead of recreated.

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      It isn't the same art nor a reprint, though.

  • @MrLukkyNL
    @MrLukkyNL Před 6 měsíci +1

    Took you long enough 😜 Enjoying watching this!

  • @plazma2891
    @plazma2891 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm calling it right now the core box is going to get a Refresh on the Miniatures I don't think the furniture will but I think the Miniatures are definitely going to get re sculpted they are lacking now compared to the new ones. I'm not trying to be mean but the new models the Goblins, Orcs And skeletons that come in against the ogre horde blow the core set minis out of the water. Inside of the quest book for the ogre horde there's a black and white picture of the wizard fighting The Dread sorcerer. The wizard has a hood and different clothing it looks cool. maybe I'm wrong but I have a feeling it's going to happen. I would definitely rebuy the box if I had new Miniatures in it and the dark company ;-)

    • @plazma2891
      @plazma2891 Před 6 měsíci

      Wow am I going to get bombarded and attacked in here like I did in the Avalon hero Quest homepage on Facebook. People need to grow up

  • @plazma2891
    @plazma2891 Před 6 měsíci

    I absolutely love the box art of that old expansion it is very nice but the new one is very good too out of all of the new covers of box art I would say the Frozen horror is my favorite but that's just my opinion

  • @craigleslie2577
    @craigleslie2577 Před 6 měsíci

    Such an awesome expansion. Im still creating new extra items, weapons and quests, slightly variation of the rules given within the book, but hoping to create something thats endless for example, includes every single monster miniature revealed so far in AHs HQ. 😁

  • @SiestaOdyssey
    @SiestaOdyssey Před 6 měsíci

    I like the older druid miniature. I wish I had it.

  • @cjdurrant9999
    @cjdurrant9999 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You'd probably use the MOTM ogre as the mercenary right?

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Definitely could (and could have up to four mercs that way for homebrew...bloody dangerous)

  • @empirefan2023
    @empirefan2023 Před 6 měsíci

    Was sold here in Germany too back in the day!

  • @davidjacovelli5986
    @davidjacovelli5986 Před 6 měsíci

    Good job Ash, great, thoroughly absorbing video.

  • @SiestaOdyssey
    @SiestaOdyssey Před 6 měsíci

    Now the question is: Will we see the Wizards of Morcar remade?

  • @codpieceofjustice4595
    @codpieceofjustice4595 Před 4 měsíci

    It looks absolutely fantastic ❤

  • @310077359
    @310077359 Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve been eagerly waiting in Canada with no luck in local shops or Amazon. 1 local store has a pre order available but no date yet for availability.

  • @HeroQuestFans
    @HeroQuestFans Před 6 měsíci

    well done Ash! I didn't have a replica of the classic box to discuss (thought about ordering it from Etsy, but the flimsy build quality stopped me... I fit the contents instead into my '89 box which had room to spare). It looks cool though (and is shinier than the remake version). can't wait to hear from more Euro gamers on this too! #Spoilers 48:26

  • @apoclaydon
    @apoclaydon Před 6 měsíci +1

    Not available in UK till april

  • @grahamscosier9691
    @grahamscosier9691 Před 6 měsíci

    mini heaven Cant wait to get my Dwarf hands on. Lets Hunt Some Orc !!

  • @RiffLair
    @RiffLair Před 6 měsíci

    Hey Ash. I just wanted to ask you about HQ. Is it worth for Solo only via the app? Clan ogres look awesome!

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +2

      This is a tough one to answer.
      I think it is, and the app has a ton of content on it now. Might be a little while before ATOH makes it on there, but I have every faith that it will. I keep looking for ways to play campaigns solo without the app, but it's tough when that means knowing what's in the quest book.

    • @RiffLair
      @RiffLair Před 6 měsíci

      @@AshQuest I've seen your Axian Quest vid. I guess these would do but not sure if I want to get more stuff(3rd party).

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I do like the axian quest decks but it isn't necessarily used for campaign play. We still need a good solo system that can use the properties of a pre written quest and give us the experience of sitting with a zargon to play it.
      That said, you can play quests on hquestmaster dot com also!

  • @PearlJamaholic
    @PearlJamaholic Před 6 měsíci

    Been waiting for this!
    Not a fan or the arena quests introducing the ogres at the start of the expansions. I'm wondering if the neglect of dwarves after so many expansions means the lost dwarf expansion is coming, or the rumored/leaked jungle expansion will be based around dwarves. They could have gone with dwarf druids and didn't, has me thinking something for the dwarf is coming.

  • @darkstranger777
    @darkstranger777 Před 6 měsíci

    Time for me to crack open my paints and get them ready

  • @CrusaderJJR
    @CrusaderJJR Před 6 měsíci

    where did you get the blue heroquest board?!

  • @frankgelder8519
    @frankgelder8519 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I really think that after the jungle of delthrak, avalon hill should think about doing a spin on the "advanced HQ" idea. Tidy up all the game mechanics introduced in the expansions and put them all in one neatly organized booklet. Create a modular version of the board(parts of the board) that can be laid out piece by piece and obviously is compatible with all the tiles of the previous releases. Put in the 4 alt gender heroes. Put in 1 male and female version of each previously released monster that are obviously more oppulently decked out in armor and weaponry. Boss sculpts, if you will.
    Then put in a questbooklet with 10 quests that starts by explaining on how to use the modular board.
    Id be willing to pay for that.
    On second thought, i still would love a dwarven themed redo of the base game

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 Před 5 měsíci

    I don't understand what the rules are for the generic tournament - I get how to build a hero team but what about a vilain team? Is it a point per 'Attack Dice'? ty

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 5 měsíci

      It's technically "as many points as their strongest attack" -- for regular enemies, this will be just their attack dice if they rolled all skulls. Some enemies have dread magic, though, and if their dread magic includes a spell that could attack with more attack dice, then this would be their rating!

    • @misomiso8228
      @misomiso8228 Před 5 měsíci

      @@AshQuest Ok i Understand. So a standard hero group would be 16, so a monster group should be 16 points of strongest dice attack dice.

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes, so could be a lot of weaker monsters or just a handful of strong ones or a mix!

  • @Aenygma_
    @Aenygma_ Před 5 měsíci

    Best expansion.

  • @olivier6969
    @olivier6969 Před 6 měsíci

    Hello, thank you for that video. Where can i find this beautiful blue map please?

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      Iam Schofield's Beautiful Dungeon Mats on drivethrurpg!

  • @franciscojavier1650
    @franciscojavier1650 Před 5 měsíci

    Where did you get that neoprene mat, it's very good. Nice video.

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ian Schofield's Beautiful Dungeon Mats on Drivethrurpg!

  • @user-xr2bm8nl6q
    @user-xr2bm8nl6q Před 6 měsíci

    Are they bringing the crypt of perpetual darkness out as a quest psck

  • @Nahaufnahme24
    @Nahaufnahme24 Před 6 měsíci

    This pack looks awesome. Can't wait to get it.
    Also, do you think we will get something like a "Skills Card Pack" for all of the other heroes? I think it would be a great addition and make the game even more fun.

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'd like that. I think it's been requested so much that it has to have been discussed behind closed doors at Avalon Hill. I'm willing to bet the skills wouldn't be a separate product but a part of another expansion...tough to speculate how!

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      Scratch that, I just thought of how I'd do it if i were AH - i think a dwarf focused expansion pack could include a fighter hero that would have a large selection of skills, maybe 9 or 12, and the player is only allowed to select three -- but players would homebrew letting the Barbarian and dwarf take the other fighter skills in the same party.

  • @plazma2891
    @plazma2891 Před 6 měsíci

    Okay old news where's the jungle expansion JP perfect video yet again friend I ordered mine a few days ago with the monk character expansion from Hasbro pulse I'm still waiting as Amazon and anywhere else with faster shipping was all sold out LOL but hey Hasbro's reliable just a little slow

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      Reliable but slow, that's what I'm telling folks!

  • @RazzleDazzleSunshine
    @RazzleDazzleSunshine Před 6 měsíci

    Would you please direct me to the good paint job for the druid?

  • @Glenwald
    @Glenwald Před 6 měsíci

    The old cover art is sooo much better.

  • @francescopace7079
    @francescopace7079 Před 6 měsíci

    Yeah thanks.....while in Australia nothing....
    Fb is just ogre posts....not fomo at all

  • @calebstephens8481
    @calebstephens8481 Před 2 měsíci

    Are there Trolls in HeroQuest?

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 2 měsíci

      Not in contemporary heroquest.
      In classic, there weren't trolls with any of the expansions. However, in the heroquest "Marvel Winter special" magazine (UK only I believe), a troll and three variants of skaven were specified for use with the game, stats and abilities outlined.

    • @calebstephens8481
      @calebstephens8481 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AshQuest nice! I'll have to look up those stats! Thanks for the speedy reply!

  • @needfoolthings
    @needfoolthings Před 6 měsíci +1

    Punk metal?

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      They were too against the machine to not be punk, but looked too Metallica to not get that metal subgenre slipped in

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings Před 6 měsíci

      @@AshQuest That explanation is so out of left field that I'll let it count.
      Discovered your channel yesterday after being out of HQ since 2017.
      I'm one of the psychos from the inn.

  • @chrisstokoe3169
    @chrisstokoe3169 Před 6 měsíci

    Are dude ya box corners are all battered

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah unfortunately Amazon shipped it to me in a regular non padded bag type of envelope. Really dumb packaging!

  • @lord_insany
    @lord_insany Před 6 měsíci +1

    consume product

  • @WithHotLeadandColdSteel
    @WithHotLeadandColdSteel Před 6 měsíci

    I prefer the old art

  • @josephpotter5766
    @josephpotter5766 Před 6 měsíci

    It's such a pity that AH don't fix things properly. They kinda halfass everything. On one level they got rid of the variable body points track for the ogres, which is a huge improvement, on the other hand they didn't fix the wording on mind lock*. It's just infuriating that something so obvious gets through the net when they did change the wording on other things! I just can't understand how a company can be so 'maximum effort' on the sculpts and the new mechanics for arena, and so 'minimum effort' on basic errata.
    *[When mind lock gets cast on the Hero the rules both in the book and on the card instruct both the hero and evil wizard roll their Mind. But only the evil wizards' roll actually matters, the hero's roll is irrelevant, it's not addressed in either the card or book. It's clear that its supposed to reduce the rolled successes of the evil wizard, but the rules don't actually say that. On subsequent turns the Hero rolls Mind to reduce the duration, freeing themselves on a roll of three of more skulls, but on that initial casting the hero's roll plays literally no effect on the resolution of the spell... so why are they rolling at all? All they needed to do was add the word 'net' into the sentence “For each skull scored by the attacker,” and the spell would work as intended. Even a single round of frozen is both really bad for the character, but also really bad for the player, who has to sit around doing nothing. Making it worse, the actual rules for escaping the spell are not only hidden in the book, never referenced on the card, where they should be, but are written in such a way that it makes it very easy for Morcar to victimise low mind point characters (the barbarian can never throw off the spell early) with no way for the Hero's to help each other. In a version of the game where the Hero's are supposed to be much more playing as a team and not adversarially (which was more the UK play style), this is just bad design.]
    Still, they did get rid of that terrible variable body points track (hated that thing, garbage design), so I can give them at least some credit. It's just weird that they fix some of the problems with the UK edition, and utterly fail to even look at fixing others?

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'd have to agree to disagree on both obviously, but rest assured for each thing changed or not changed, there'd be an equally passionate perspective out there to criticize it. Can't please everyone!

    • @josephpotter5766
      @josephpotter5766 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@AshQuest Agreed. We may not see eye to eye on things, but I've always appreciated how passionate you are about Heroquest and your work to get things out there. I'm just a curmudgeon.

  • @OzzyHamid-cl2fi
    @OzzyHamid-cl2fi Před 6 měsíci +1

    Can someone please help? I love the game.
    But the heroes have figured out that placing the barbarian at the entrance to the door protects all the other heroes from the monsters within. The monsters then have to attack one by one and get annihilated! How do you prevent this from happening? The challenge is gone!
    Thanks

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 6 měsíci +2

      There is no rules-as-written way to prevent this old exploit, but there have been a lot of tricks to keeping the game going.
      Making some monsters ranged, such as giving orcs crossbows,
      Or able to attack diagonally as if equipped with spears, such as skeletons,
      Or giving the monster the ability to move, attack and then move again, such as the goblins,
      ...incentivizes the heroes to exterminate a given problem monster immediately.
      Placing a second door next to an existing door and opening it at the same time (the "double door"). There are other ways as well.

    • @PilgrimStanding
      @PilgrimStanding Před 5 měsíci +1

      Are the heroes having fun?

    • @OzzyHamid-cl2fi
      @OzzyHamid-cl2fi Před 5 měsíci

      @@AshQuestThank you Ash. The problem is that we use the App as Zargon. This means we can’t employ the techniques you’ve suggested. But maybe we can just ban ourselves from using this door blocking technique by penalising the dice rolls etc

  • @user-hm1yx7uv6v
    @user-hm1yx7uv6v Před měsícem +1

    that is definitely a quiver

  • @RomanticViper
    @RomanticViper Před 5 měsíci

    This might actually be the best expansion ever. Wolf companion is such a game-changer. (I'm a crazy person that buys 4 copies of every set) So now I can actually play HeroQuest with any amount of players. If we really want to be crazy, one player has a wolf-pack of 3 companions. Most likely this'll just be an option to play when you only have 3 people. (One of them being Zargon) So, two heroes with two wolves. That sounds like a really fun way to create some homebrew campaigns. When you couple in all the different Mercenary characters that exist, and we just got an Ogre... There's a lot of homebrew potential.
    The Arena mode is even better and more expansive than I thought! I'm so delighted. Not only can I really just try and push the limits of what characters and teams can do in a "balanced environment", they basically just gave us the ability to play HeroQuest as a war/skirmish game. This mode alone, actually makes having 4 sets of every expansion even more worth it. Massive armies of Dread besieging the heroes, or even better... Zargon VS Morcar, using the World's End Tournament rosters to build your armies but include the Dread Spell deck as a means to help influence combat. I can't wait to sleeve up these new cards and sling Mind Bursts, Dominates, and Mind Locks. With 4 sets I might as well just go whole-hog and mix heroes & monsters to make massive armies- combine the 4 outdoor tiles to create a large enough battlefield... We've basically got a blueprint for Warhammer homebrew with HeroQuest. I love this game! Thank you Avalon Hill for delivering consistently amazing products. I'm gonna try Orcs & Goblins, VS the Undead & Ghosts, VS a band of ALL the heroes, VS a band of the Mercenaries.
    Also, I cannot express my love of a retail release of the Druid class. I've been wanting this class since I heard about the re-release of the game. (I missed the Hasbro Lab) Druid really fills the "Cleric" role while maintaining some really unique and cool identity. Giving them Shapeshift to attack and defend better is really awesome, and recovering it whenever they have full HP really fulfills a niche power-fantasy that fans of this genre crave. The Faerie spell is absolutely splendid support, and does a great job of selling that hermit mysticism. Lifeforce is when the White Mage pops Benediction, and we love him for it. I imagine rushing a Crossbow into your build immediately so you can engage and support from afar, and Shapeshift to help deal with any trouble you find yourself in. Can't wait to push them to the limit with various artifacts and equipment upgrades.
    My copies start rolling in tomorrow, and I can't wait to start painting up my armies this summer in the garage.

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Four copies is radical. You've got some true wargaming madness going on, and arena mode is here for it!!

    • @AshQuest
      @AshQuest  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Also loving the wolf pack idea!

  • @frankhixxx
    @frankhixxx Před 6 měsíci

    Ogress minis, win!