BATTLEFIELD 2042: The Railgun TOR is a fast-paced aggressive Hunter (Gameplay for EMKV90-TOR)
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Watching over the Summer, I noticed that the Railgun TOR (EMKV90-TOR) was coming in for a lot of criticism from prominent Battlefield 2042 (bf2042) CZcamsrs. So much so that people were calling for its removal from the game. The TOR gets a lot of bad press through accusations of 'spawn camping' undermining gameplay, especially from Nightbird, Jet and other pilots.
The TOR doesn't have to be a back-line spawn camper. With it's high speed & agility, insane ones-shot damage (particularly with the Maul rounds) and Active Protection System (APS) it can close down and execute any armoured vehicle in the game. Gameplay can be fast paced, aggressive and actually capable of taking out spawn campers, the exact opposite of what it's accused of doing! Siege mode is also great providing you don't stick around in it for too long...
Big thanks to Das0FF for allowing me to use his amazing tank shot clip -- link below!
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00:00 Intro
02:44 Loadout
04:56 Active Protection System
07:21 Wildcat Hunting
10:23 Siege Mode
13:02 Get In There & Capture!
15:07 Spawn Camping
16:55 Outro - Hry
When I was getting it to tier 1, had a game where I was being aggressive with it and went 45-0. I haven't really tested it but it seemed to me like the secondary HMG is the best in the game. It's really fun sniping infantry with the maul cannon, too. With that said, I wish it wasn't added to the game.
Sniping infantry is fun but the video was getting too long so I’ve moved it to another one down the line ;)
I completely understand why people want it out the game, but I have hope that making some changes like restrictions on firing from spawn could help us out. I really hope we don’t end up with something too heavy handed that takes away a unique piece of gameplay.
Excellent! You really don't see anyone encouraging this with the TOR. It feels like it should be used to just camp and snipe, but you are 100% correct, with its ability to get through APS it really can be a great counter to enemy armour if you are actually moving about the map! I'm excited to try playing with the TOR more after seeing this! And I agree, hopefully we can get some anti-camping solutions in the game :)
Great work man!
Thanks as always! Just keep moving & punching through those vehicles, it’s a great way to play & personally a lot less frustrating than sitting on the back line popping long shots. I really do get why people do that, but they’re denying themselves a different gameplay experience!
you know i think a good anti camping solution would be to bring the airstrike from bad company 2 to bf2042 but maybe give it to support to give them more options.(i porsonally think all unique portal gadgets should be in bf2042)
Interesting thing about spawn campers in conquest is on occasion it is drawing resources and team-power away from map control for the team who has them. Or any area being camped for that matter. Even if that team has majority map control. There will be gaps in map areas that allow the opposing team to push through and begin recapturing the map or creating new frontlines. Another satisfying thing to do with the TOR is to let a vehicle be finished by surrounding teammates who are AT or have an AT vehicle turret. This lets you remain undetected to the enemy team as a TOR for longer. Possibly giving you more time to be active in the TOR without enemy infantry and vehicles beginning to attempt in destroying your TOR.
Yeah TOR is a beast up close. Took another channel pointing out the damage falloff on the maingun for me to try it up close (having realized the damage I get at range won't be what I do up close). After that, I mostly use it aggressively and get fantastic results. The secondary shotgun coax is a huge factor too, as most tank MGs are balanced to have a pretty slow rate of killing -- but not that shotgun, which can kill instantly in one shot up close!
I also think players a sleeping a bit on how much value you can get from *Repair System* while aggressively roaming. Granted, it does make you more vulnerable to Attack Helos (granted good AV air I think is always the biggest threat to this tank, regardless of your loadout; if your Wildcat/Jet players let you do, a single good air player can take you out on most maps).
Not sure if you’ve seen but I’ve updated my TOR vid since the release of the Shotgun & mechanics modifications to damage drop off. Opinion is the same though, the TOR should always be moving and an absolute beast up close.
So this is interesting - I agree that Helis are the biggest threat to a TOR if you’re static / sniping, but not if you’re mobile. APS slaps away the worst of an opening volley and AGMs can be deflected by smoke as well. You have plenty of time to hold out for help, run or hide. Stealth Helis are the worst since EMP blasts now paralyse the TOR & can fly tight circles overhead. I don’t think I’d want a repair so easily interrupted in this situation. What scares we the most as a TOR player are RAMs or another TOR. Both can nullify your defences in the blink of an eye and catch you if you try to run. Those are the true killers!
13:03 the way your tank shoots, sounds so satisfying
It’s a very satisfying sound - you may not be aware as you don’t play, but this tank was up for review & the changes came out a few days ago. So pleased it survived & hasn’t been nerfed out the game.
Another great insight and discussion. Like the Rorsch, I've been frustrated by the recharge time. However, watching Squid-G dominate with it proves that like it, the TOR can be learned like any other weapon. I also have been frustrated by the TOR's limited gun tube elevation. I didn't realize it's speed, however, so maneuvering to get the proper alignment seems the obvious fix. I read in a couple pre-game tips that the CAV-Brawler takes less damage given its special alloys and the MAV has the strongest (frontal) armor in the game. Both languished at your hands. Super cool.
I’ve tried so hard to copy Squid and I haven’t hit a thing. Not one snipe to my name yet. I’m losing hope 😅
You make a great point about barrel elevation, that is certainly a thing with the TOR if you’re too close. What I do is use little hills to pitch the nose up if I want a higher shot, works really well on maps like Spearhead where there’s no shortage.
The MAV is always 4 shots for me and often more as it repairs itself / gets repaired. The CAV I have found can melt like butter even when hit head on. I have no answer! But as you say the TOR can dominate both, especially with APS.
Thanks for the support as always - hope the TOR doesn’t get removed. I’m generally against gameplay being taken out, and hope we find a sensible fix to this. I don’t like being spawn camped any more than the next gamer but dojt throw the good out with the bad!
Great video as ever, I’d largely ignored the TOR but I’ll give it a try. The up close gameplay looks pretty fun - why not give it a shot!
Thanks man - glad you enjoyed it. Yeah give it a try, why not? Always fun to have a laugh with a new way of playing
every time you post it’s just a new fresh perspective on the game for me to try. it’s so refreshing to watch your content
Thanks a lot for that I really appreciate it - I do this because I actually care about the hobby / relaxing after work & family. The game is absolutely packed with variety & challenging yourself to play a little differently gives it a lot more spark!
I've also always found it quite a mobile tank the main issue for me when being aggressive is it can be impossible to flush out engineers who are sensibly hiding in buildings with RPGs which becomes an issue as the match goes on and everyone starts switching to engineer to come after you. It's my last t1 to get in the class because I much prefer the ram
If a team works against you / evolves to take you out, very few things are safe. Completely agree about players in crowded areas, it’s definitely dangerous but the TOR can do it. I’ve been impressed with how much of a beating they can take before going down. If a regular tank is fully crewed especially with a mortar, that is a sight to behold though. One day!
Thank you for the video and new to the channel
Thank you for checking it out & giving it a chance. Basic theme is vehicle hunting & having fun. Keeping it positive and a nice place to relax after work / studies / kids / all three or whatever we do in life :)
Shout if you’ve got any questions about anything otherwise enjoy & see you around.
wow, that wall to wall tank shot with the 1.8s time on it was beautiful
I just beat it this evening - pretty pleased about it. Hope you enjoyed the rest of the vid, I know the TOR is a bit of a love / hate addition to the game.
Hey it's Nick from Australia. Actually using my own account this time. Great video as always. Some very good points made. I don't think anyone blames someone for spawning, seeing an enemy aircraft and taking it out before you leave spawn and then leaving. The main problem is if that is your plan: "I'm going to spawn in the TOR and just sit back and chill in spawn". That's when it becomes a problem. By the way, how are you going with AT mines? I have 58 left to go for T1.
Hey man see you’ve got your own account - nicely, I’ll make a note of it. Yeah I agree on taking the shot right in front of you, but to the recipient it just looks like a spawn kill! I completely get it. It sucks losing a vehicle within seconds of entering the fight.
I’ve been wall to wall with the family back in England for six weeks so played less than 2 nights total since we set the bet. I didn’t see it going that way, I must concede it’s highly unlikely I’ll beat you to T1! Hope you’re having a good winter down under, take it easy :)
Great vid. One of my favourite vehicles to use, i love to take out the enemy vehicles. I feel bad taking out infantry all the time in tanks/heli i know how how it feels xD
I think I’ve know the sting of BF death from just about everything by this point, but little hurts me more than a heli suddenly & instantly cut short by a TOR. Stings me worse than a Dozer slap to the face 😅
Thanks for the comment - I’m a huge fan of these guys for armour hunting too. Have fun!
I’m curious if giving the TOR shots drop at a certain range, but depends on the distances average combat takes place, which could be 100-250m playing aggressively and beyond that the shot will drop. The idea is to make shots from the back of the map less easy to achieve since we know you can’t avoid air targets if the tor is capable to hit them, but add some grace they can escape or not be spawn camped
Another idea is to slow the shots velocity after a certain distance as projectiles even from a rail gun will slow down. Supposedly this isn’t quite a new idea if reports have told us Sniper rifle shots slow down after certain distances (how much hasn’t been accurately measured)
There’s a huge amount of options and these are two good ones. We could have it where a shot fired from inside the spawn beyond 250m does 25% damage, we could remove the Maul rounds to take away one-hits and let vehicles escape, we could give aircraft spawning in 5 seconds of invulnerability to stop the most horrific spawn camping. Whilst I like the physics of the rail gun (Mach 8 round would indeed blitz across the map without any drop over such a short distance) gameplay needs to come first. Like you suggest there are many sensible answers - I just hope the devs & community invest the time to find something that works and we don’t just ‘react’ losing a fun vehicle.
Common tactic for me if I’m going into a pretty safe vehicle 1v1 is to dive in, switch to siege mode and then get to firing. Swap out when done and get out of there. Im pretty sure the siege mode also has a quicker reload time? Sometimes the quicker shot time is the difference between landing 2 shots or 3.
Works particularly well vs other tanks or enemy TORs caught off guard. TOR v TOR is pretty much whoever gets the first shot in wins.
Good point I should’ve checked the reload time. I’ll have a look at that. I personally try to stay out of siege as I lose the ability to chase down, but I see what you’re saying. Nothing to chase if you kill then quick. TOR vs TOR is indeed first punch wins if both are in siege. But if you’re not, you have a chance to run if you were seen first!
another AWESOME video by TIMELESS gamer
Thanks!! Really glad you enjoyed it!
About the CAV 2-3 shot kill, it’s because it’s takes 3 with the hammer ammunition, but the 2 shot was with maul ammo. Otherwise, great stuff!
I absolutely 100% promise you that all shots in this vid except for those specially marked as Hammer were Mail rounds. It’s the weirdest thing - 4 rounds for a MAV, 3 for a Tank, 2 for a Wildcat but the CAV sits in the middle of 2 and 3… so strange l!
@@timelessgamer_UK hmmm, I’ll do some testing in portal at some point to see where does the most damage then!
Let me know what you find - I can’t figure it out at all!
@@timelessgamer_UK Does 50 damage everywhere. Only thing that can interfere with the 2 shot kill seems to be if someone repairs a single point of damage.
@@timelessgamer_UKit was the hammer round in that clip. Notice the quick firing time and if you look at your maul clips, the weapon icon on the HUD is smaller for the hammer.
The gunner having an EMP grenade is also pretty insane for vehicle dueling. I've recently encountered a 2 person team who absolutely dominated in this thing doing fast flanks on vehicles and using the HMGs to farm infantry as well. Maybe I should try it as well.
Yeah you’re right I can’t believe I forgot to mention that. Especially as we used the EMP in the intro 😅
I really think fast attacking with the TOR is an excellent play. I’ve had a lot of rounds where I’ve managed to leave a good pile of armour scrapped before being taken out myself. Absolutely give it a shot, why not? The HMG is good but I’ve never had the chance. Not being salty but pretty much every TOR I wanted to ride with was sitting on the back line… couldn’t get any footage!
I mean, to be honest, it doesn't seem super strong. Like, you'll kill the vehicles, sure. But even in the video I don't see a lot of infantry pressure.
So these two guys obviously counter that by repairing and having a second MG. Playing like that alone is questionable, but may be a decent situational tool.
I don't know if you've tried it, but the RAM with rockets is really good. It's even faster and the rocket volley is fairly strong against everything.
I’ve never tried the RAM, that’s a vehicle which IMO really needs a team to crew it. In my experience a CAV / MAV will fill themselves up & the crews stick around, but when I choose a RAM this doesn’t happen and I feel like I’ve wasted it. One day perhaps.
Back to the TOR, solo rush play works you just can’t hang around. If infantry start piling in you have to run as M5 will overpower you once APS is down and C5 is a menace without a gunner watching out for you. No argument from me that having an Engineer watch your back makes anyone way more effective. I always help out tanks / transports, but with the TOR as I was saying I never found anyone to help as all other players I encountered were sat on the back lines long shotting. Solo hit and run to assassinate armour / start captures is just fine though.
The new shotgun blaster is pretty great.
It’s insanely good - I’m due an update to this vid
well played hitting the like
Thanks! Appreciated
My c4 has issues sticking to the CAV. Idk if that’s related to your issues, but it’s interesting about the CAV.
Can’t figure it out - some shots rip straight through it. The only possible theory I have is the shot didn’t register as head on but slightly to one side or another. I’ve not had the C5 issue myself but maybe you’ve noticed this - AT mines have a horrible habit of auto detonating when I throwing them at CAVs (or drop from a parachute). Weird again.
It is mobile but you can kill most of the enemy team from a high vantage point while using terain to aim high for aircraft
Yeah this is all possible, did it a few times in the vid (like the oil rig shot and some of the siege mode shots at the end). Same with the main battle tank, you can pitch the barrel up or down the same way. I’m just trying to make a case in this video that whilst the TOR can be extremely annoying when ppl spawn camp with it, it doesn’t have to be that way and I really hope it doesn’t get shouted out of the game or nerfed to become pointless. It can be fun when you charge around in it & I hope there’s a way to preserve that whilst addressing the bigger issues. There must be a way around this.
Just re-watched this. Still just as fun! :D
Glad you're still liking it -- I had a go with the TOR since the changes, honestly it doesn't impact how I like to play. I've found that when I hit helis I'm typically within range of a one shot kill anyway. The only frustration is occasionally I do elevate the barrel to trigger the reduced projectile speed but I wasn't expecting it. It's actually very frustrating not knowing what speed the shot is coming out at. I can work with anything so long as its consistent!
@@timelessgamer_UKYep. The elevation is one of my gripes ...
I keep coming back to being able to use the tools we are given in fresh ways.
I'm still happy about the times I managed to launch the APV boarding pods in 2142 through the then "helis". The pilots must have been so surprised ... I tried doing that on the Titan map in BF4, but never succeeded.
Also, day before yesterday, I got an extraction in HZ where the last, and crucial kill I made was with McKay's grappling hook. Hearing the "plink", seeing my opponent, who was trying to get on the Condor (and shoot me) fall was such a rush. It will also stay with me.
And yes, I was the last alive in my squad ... :D
And I never use McKay. He's not Battlefield for me (though I get why people like him). It's the same with Sundance. I was just collecting consecutive extractions to unlock the background.
i wonder, does the siege mode even do anything usefull? i tried it against bots and it just makes me a sitting target that gets killed way too easy. this playstyle makes more sense to me anyway.
Most people I’ve encountered in a TOR are siege moded in the back lines somewhere, purely anecdotally I rarely meet a fighter. I get why people do it but I’m concerned the noise people are making about it could lead to the TOR we know and love played aggressively be lost. Heli pilots do seem to get their way whenever there’s attempts to curb their strength in the game…
Now they have added the new secondary there is no excuse not to be aggressive.
The canister shot is brutal, and it’s also very good against night birds buzzing you. I’m really enjoying it. If you’ve a second crew gunner you can down the NB in seconds
fantastic, the TOR must be used in the right way!
Thanks!! Really glad you enjoyed it & sign up to the play fast and aggressive club :)
fantastic videos and recommendations!! thanks!@@timelessgamer_UK
*Edit:* correction
It definitely needs some changes as it isn't anywhere balanced to have a whole full health vehicle just explode out of nowhere bc of a TOR, or spawn something in and have no way of evading, or not being able to counter it bc it sits so far back in spawn.
Yes you *can* use it aggressively, but it is made to camp so most people use it that way.
It doesn't help that a few people play nicely, when most of the time it is just boring or annoying.
I’m completely for changes - I just don’t want the good to be thrown out with the bad. I’d be up for things like guns being locked in spawn (or having a 50% damage reduction so as to end them being one shot) or simply having the spawn point be on a timer so you can’t sit it in. None of that would solve the long shot poof though. Other things can do it but as you say it either has a warning (Lis) or the skill & splash of luck like a God tier tank shell shot makes it nothing to worry about / begrudgingly applaud if you’re on the end of it.
I don’t have an answer but it feels to me like something is coming which based on previous experience could be very heavy handed. I just hope they take a little time to really think about this one. Also of course I’d be pleased if even one person saw this vid and decided to play nice. It’s progress!
@@timelessgamer_UK I'm somewhat active in the forums and I try (as well as encourage others) to support reasonable and positive changes.
Those air vehicle players who want to tip the balance in their favor are a constant threat and need to be kept in check.
In posts about changing the TOR we need to be careful of those people to not overdo it.
The only time I’ve ever felt bad for pilots were Lis’ 3.2 Lissiles. They really didn’t stand a chance, hilarious though it was. I’ve never set foot in a forum or Reddit, perhaps I should actually. I can see the TOR is upsetting people. Personally I hate the Nightbird (I think it’s too OP) but I’d never advocate to ban it. I think Dice have given us enough tools to manage it. The real TOR problem I see is a lack of tools to get someone deep in spawn. I shouldn’t have to kill myself to dig them out.
@@timelessgamer_UK Yeah I agree, a ban is never an option in my opinion, bc it would just be a waste of potential.
I play on console and even though 3.2 Liz was noticable stronger, it was kind of necessary for console to be able to deal with some air.
And also on the nightbird I think its minigun is the main problem, aswell as the still missing 20mm Flak from the Recon-Buggy to counter it.
With those 2 nerfed somewhat I think it would be ok.
The TOR just makes you wanna hate it when you get deleted without warning (but almost never as a nightbird since it's so small that it gets ignored which further imbalances it).
Good gameplay ! This tank shouldn't be so strong against aircraft because that make the AA quite useless (1-2 shot for every aircraft with no bulletspeed/drop is pathetic). As always no brainer who came up with this Tank idea, it again does show the incompetents of the developer team, sry to say that but thats how it is. if there are 2 good Railgun tankdrivers with gunner teamplay HF, completly broken.
Thanks for the gameplay comment! Yeah I am seeing the TOR is a polarising vehicle. I think what needs looking at is how we can preserve the vehicle but remove the worst elements of the gameplay like spawn camping. Perhaps remove Maul Rounds to prevent single hits on aircraft. In any event, I genuinely think it would be a loss to remove them from the game completely. There’s got to be a way around this, all I’m saying!
This really looks great in ultra settings. What setup are you playing on?
Rysen9 5950x with ASUS Strix RTX3090. Also use G14 Zephyrus 4090 for on the go (business / family trips).
Monitor is 34” ultra wide Alienware 4K monitor
@@timelessgamer_UKdamn son
Slow down the projectile and give him a little bulet drop. That would sort out 99% of the noobs and the APS protection should also work against them.
When I drive a tank, I can usually win 1 vs 2 against average players. When I see the TOR tank and have no cover, I know. I'm dead
I think another thing which should be considered is making all shots into and out of spawn impossible. Once you cross the line to leave, you cannot re-enter. This would also do a lot. Damage drop off against air vehicles would work for me too, to stop truly wall-to-wall blasting them out the sky. APS bypass is unbelievably broken, even though it is a rail gun projectile & nothing could stop that!
@@timelessgamer_UK I like the idea of a spawn wall that stops weapons either way and can only be crossed once. Yeah the only chance another ground vehicle is to trick them into using APS and evading them whilst it's active and then get close or be highly mobile. If they're in siege mode it is quite easy to drive rings around them and just stay ahead of the cannon lol, harder in tanks though
Siege mode if you’re found is basically death, providing you’ve got an explosive or another rail gun. An Apache / Hokum will smoke you too. I really have found it’s better to keep moving.
I do like the idea of a wall stopping shots in and out. I know there’s not a lot of difference between being in spawn and one inch outside of it, but it would stop retreats & Recon specialists would have a much better chance of getting you. There’s a compromise here, just hope people take their time to find it.
I'm guessing you're a mouse and keyboard player. The TOR is much harder to use on controller because we just can't aim as accurately as quickly. I'm very good in the TOR and although I have played aggressive, most of the time I just get annihilated when I do that.
That being said, I rarely get killed by the TOR, even when I'm flying, so I don't see a problem with people camping with it.
Yeah I’m a Keyboard & Mouse player. Fair I completely understand your point, I think I might switch to pad for a bit just so I can get an appreciation of it. Do you find the Main Battle Tanks are easier to use or is it largely the same issue?
So playing TOR on pad, do I take it your recommendation is to stick to the back lines?
@@timelessgamer_UK That definitely works best. You can play aggressive, but stay on the outskirts of objectives and move frequently.
You make a really good point - I’m going to try this. Thanks for pointing it out to me, appreciated. I should keep the different input styles in mind. I play pad on any game series I started before 2017 (so Overwatch is all played on pad, it’s just a habit).
I’m surprised I watched the whole video. I really dislike the game and as a battlefield 3&4 fan I miss the old bf. Although I don’t play this game I still find it entertaining to watch content of the game. 🤙🏼
I’m glad you enjoyed it, thanks for giving it a shot. I came into BF with 2042 so I’ve got no point of reference, but I’ve played with some guys who were old school. If you’re just looking to relax & enjoy some squad based play, maybe check this one out:
czcams.com/video/fIigmt3OaYk/video.html
Hope you enjoy the rest of the channel - take it easy. Maybe check out the Bane AT Mine / Smoke Grenade one, might make you laugh (or it might fail miserably, in which case you have my apologies!).
@@timelessgamer_UK I will for sure give it a watch. You got a new subscriber and I can’t wait to see what else you put out. 🫡
i can’t wait for the season 6 nerf, my first game on today since returning back from holiday and got spawn sniped in my huron within 5 seconds😭
I’m really happy with the change. Stops the spawn camping and won’t affect my style of play at all. Really glad they didn’t go in too hard with it.
Since the announcement people have been spamming TOR all week, only a few more days to go!
21:9 gang
If I’m going to get blown up, at least watch it in widescreen 😅
9:00 APS
APS is an absolute must
Very good AA
Thanks - I’ve been playing TOR since the changes, it does have quite an effect on AA from a distance but if you’re playing in the thick of it, I haven’t felt a huge difference. Jets and Hinds / Condors aren’t protected by the damage nerfs either. All in all I think the TOR played aggressively is more powerful than it ever was. Enjoying it.
As someone who always tries to blow up tanks, idk how to feel about this 😂😂. Nice vid though bro, very informative… might just help me blow you guys up 🤫🤫
Hey don’t worry I’m a tank killer too - I love all things vehicles in BF, driving and / or roasting them. Im actually only a very middling foot soldier 😜
Killing a TOR is super simple on foot, and EMP grenade with C5 will obliterate them. Also they’re uniquely vulnerable to parachute attacks. Taking one out that refuses to move & sits on the backline is the easiest thing. I guess the larger point I’m worried about here is BF 2042 after a long road is actually a good game - I don’t know why some people feel so hostile to it (truly). It took a long time to get here, and I really don’t think removing gameplay elements is the answer. Feels to me like the TOR might be a dead man walking… which would be a loss as it can be really good, legit fun.
Thanks for the comment & support, I’d love to see a vehicle hunting special on your channel! Best kills compilation?
@@timelessgamer_UK agreed for sure man… and I just might tbh 👀
I love to just sit at the spawn and absolutely tear every chopper and aircraft from across the map.
Almost no uses it, I can't understand the whining about camping at your own base.
Why don''t people just play their game and leave others to play their respective games? I mean, you're not obstructing the course of the game. You're just one player with one vehicle.
If you like playing aggressive, fine. If you like playing stealth or camping, fine too. This is not Squad or Foxhole or whatever, it's just Battlefield.
Well, I can’t speak for anyone else and we all know that the big channels have been shouting about this since it came out - so I’ll just speak for myself.
My issue with the spawn camp - though hopefully you noticed in the video I was clear upfront to recognise this is a perfectly legal thing to do and I’m not the law - is that there’s no real counter or battle to be had. If you see it then game on, but very often these vehicles like any other quietly spawn in and the first thing you know about it on the other side of the map is - you’re dead. No fight, to chance to escape or flip a bad situation, just dead. If the team is on point it’ll adjust quickly. We’ll go dig it out and it won’t be alive in another minute or so. I do agree if you’re being dominated by it, that’s your fault for not handling it. Fly above it and jump out with AT mines or C5 and it’s dead, nothing it can do about it. Apache or any Heli above it, same fate. It’s far from invincible.
That’s my take - I’m always careful to never speak for anyone else. Whether others agree or have their own takes, all good. What I’m really worried about is the campaign to have this removed from the game is really picking up steam and apparently changes are coming in season 6. This video is my last throw at saying yes it’s causing issues for some but let’s not overreact. There’s got to be a way everyone can have ‘enough’ to keep it in. Hope that makes sense. Perhaps it may not have sounded it in the vid, but I’m trying to argue it should be saved!
@@timelessgamer_UK I get your point in the video. I have no problem with people not liking campers or any other gameplay style. My point is: there's no reason for the drama people do while playing.
It''s countless the times I got killed by C4 or other helis while in TOR.
It has one of the highest damages in the game, but it''s full of flaws. The turret is extremely slow - unless you play with it zoomed (I still can't understand that. dice please), it's slow ass hell to fire another shot, after dying 2 times, you know where the base camper is - the base, go there and kill him, and the final point, you can't just respawn with TOR after dying. You'll have to wait a whole minute. Not to count that other player can respawn on it while you wait.
In my point of view, that's the whole purpose of the TOR - be an absolute one-two shot kill artillery.
Just imagine if people start to complain because snipers are playing aggressive recon style instead of being stealth and cautious.
If the community sees it as a game breaker vehicle, fine, "fix" or remove it. That's how we come to a balance where everybody is happy. But I'm convinced that the whole drama is only because they are upset about getting shot from across the map by someone with the minimal skill necessary.
And tbh, that's really not hard to run from TOR (smoke + full throttle) or flank then kill it.
Please. Just turn on the damage numbers so you can actually tell how much damage you are doing.
The damage numbers popping up felt a bit too much like an arcade game so I left them off. But the point is taken, for future videos when I need to speak about damage I will turn them on. Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.
Is he playing on portal here??
What makes you think I’m in Portal out of curiosity? And no, it’s not. All just regular Conquest.
How hard would it be to instead of talk about banning TOR, just add a timer on being in spawn area just like going out of map + instead vehicle destroy if you go back in. Function of spawn area is spawning not staying there, problem solved
That would be a big help for a couple of issues but I don’t think for some it’ll be problem solved. On that last section for example I could have driven a few seconds farther out & it wouldn’t have made any difference to the shots I was landing from the back line. It would definitely help, but there’s from what I can see purely anecdotally a strong current of support to have them removed - either in 2042 or a future game. It must be noted most of the people calling for the ban are heli & jet pilots who got the Lis 3.2 missiles reversed! Which made sense they were pretty OP (but such sweet times).
My real concern is when Dice thinks something is unbalanced, they can overreact a little (this isn’t a Dev rant I’m sure it’s not easy to balance all the conflicting demands). I’ve seen several things in the game I used to really enjoy fall away in the name of balance. I’d hate to see it happen again.
You can kill anyone. Shows clips for 3 seconds and then boom different map etc. The tank is just bs en for campers. This is just click bait.
Sorry I don’t follow - how is it click bait? It’s simply a compilation of gameplay moments that match what I’m saying at the time. Multiple clips come from single rounds (as you can tell from the squad names), others were stand alone moments where something came off well or specially support the point I’m trying to make. I edit to prevent overly long videos. Don’t really understand your argument (other than you’ve concluded the Tank is BS for Campers). Anyway, tried to make my case - happy to further clarify if something isn’t making sense.
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Thanks so much for the support it’s really appreciated - takes a lot of time to make these vids, always nice to hear people are enjoying them!