Mastering Class D Radios | Class Delta ATC Communications

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2021
  • In this video we're going over VFR radio communications with Air Traffic Control for flying in and out of Class D airspace. Even though we're based at Deer Valley Airport in Phoenix AZ, we decided to pretend we're just stopping for gas to be consistent with our other videos for flying in and out of Class C and Class B airports.
    Really, class D is where it all starts. It's considered the runt of the towered airports and is usually used for airports that have enough traffic to warrant a tower. BUT that's not always the case. Sometimes the Airspace around the airport can force it to be a Class D, like at Deer Valley. It's the busiest general aviation airport in the US and could EASILY be class C, but the class B above it wont let it. Just some food for thought.
    Anyways, enjoy the coms as we fly in and out of the class D airspace of Deer Valley Airport.
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Komentáře • 79

  • @hunterm4188
    @hunterm4188 Před rokem +11

    These are genuinely SO helpful for new pilots that stress about atc like me!

  • @ADailyDoseAsPodcast
    @ADailyDoseAsPodcast Před 26 dny +2

    How ever dislike this video on the wrong frequency

  • @akken2112
    @akken2112 Před 2 lety +9

    Thanks for another very useful video. I'm training out of a Class D airport and your videos are very helpful. I appreciate you.

  • @firepilot109
    @firepilot109 Před 2 lety +2

    Another great video. Your videos really helped when I had to take my checkride!

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety

      Great to hear! It's why we make this kind of stuff.

  • @user-ys8ou2id1s
    @user-ys8ou2id1s Před 2 lety +3

    I just found your channel this is extremely helpful thank you, seriously thank you.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +1

      Glad you did! Welcome and thanks for watching. =)

  • @lapamful
    @lapamful Před 2 lety

    Great segment, very helpful. Thank you

  • @scottfoster5999
    @scottfoster5999 Před 2 měsíci

    That was very helpful! Thank you

  • @klasmova2771
    @klasmova2771 Před 10 měsíci

    how has this not gotten more views! good luck to all student pilots here

  • @lexhousebuyers288
    @lexhousebuyers288 Před 2 lety

    Great content, thank you!

  • @tannerb55
    @tannerb55 Před rokem

    Thank you these videos help a bunch

  • @ryl8791
    @ryl8791 Před 2 lety +5

    I got my training at deer valley Airport in 2002 it was super busy then I remember the controller saying we are full! incoming aircraft stay out until he says he can take more planes. Stressful at times but great training

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety

      First time that happened to me was on my checkride. LOL

    • @MacGyverGTP
      @MacGyverGTP Před 2 lety

      Me too Ryan! Started Jan, 2002 had PPL June 2002. Westwind with Floyd Klamut (Great instructor!) Now, I fly an Arrow II on the north side.

    • @brysoncardenas3980
      @brysoncardenas3980 Před rokem +1

      @@flywiththeguys So do you usually just fly around near the airport or what is the procedure?

  • @jakew9887
    @jakew9887 Před 2 lety

    Great Video. Thanks

  • @MrEhab1966
    @MrEhab1966 Před rokem

    You are a great teacher 👍

  • @HeyIFoundACamera
    @HeyIFoundACamera Před 2 lety +4

    Holy crap was that ATC speaking FAST! 😵 I couldn't understand a word she said. Radio communication is the hardest part of flying, in my experience. I've (politely) asked ATC to slow down, and in a few cases, they responded as if I had asked them to kill their dog or something.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +1

      Eventually you'll know what they're going to say and you are just verifying key words. And yes, they can talk really fast. LOL It's why I put subtitles in.

    • @ChrisSpil
      @ChrisSpil Před 2 lety +2

      @Jonathan Cutting, I second that! She talks WAY too fast, and there's hardly good enunciation and pausation between her words to make her speech intelligible. I'm a long-time ham radio operator and used to diciphering hard-to-make-out speech, but seriously now, that is unnecessarily too fast to 'register' in the brain.

  • @13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51

    It`s been a long time but it`s coming back to me

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety

      GOOD! Hopefully this helped a little. Checkout PlaneEnglish too. Really helps a lot!

  • @WarbirdVideos
    @WarbirdVideos Před 7 měsíci

    Another GREAT (non) training video!!

  • @voyagingwithvincent1994
    @voyagingwithvincent1994 Před 2 lety +1

    Using Minecraft to explain aviation, I love this channel.

  • @TheFlyingController
    @TheFlyingController Před 2 lety

    Freaking Perfect. *NOT TRAINING, but should be...Great video dude!

  • @user-zh3ci6rh5d
    @user-zh3ci6rh5d Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @JoshuaTootell
    @JoshuaTootell Před 5 měsíci

    Lots of complaints about the ATC comms, but seemed fine to me as a (more advanced?) student. Fast, but i understood all the instructions.
    Even still, if you are a student and struggling, let ATC know! Ask them to repeat and let them know you are a a student. It's nothing to be embarrassed about.
    I asked Center to repeat themselves with every radio call on my first solo XC. It wasn't a problem.
    Edit:
    I fly almost exclusively in Echo. I'm just older, and a veteran, so I have a big chunk of life experience to build off of.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes, let them know. But it's a skill you have to learn. Its like saying "I can play the guitar" without ever picking one up. Yea you can strum it and make some some noise, but you have to practice to get good at it. ATC is the exact same way.

  • @photon1972
    @photon1972 Před 2 lety

    Thanks!!

  • @mahmoudbasheer3645
    @mahmoudbasheer3645 Před 2 lety

    It is a great job

  • @alanaspurling6469
    @alanaspurling6469 Před 2 lety

    I flew into KBFL (Bakersfield Meadows) which has an approach control. You know it’s a quiet day when approach control gave me “30 right, straight in cleared to land”….

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +2

      Departing Deer Valley was crazy when I made this. On my way back in (yes I played them in reverse for the video) it was so quiet I got cleared to land before I entered their airspace.

  • @alanmcnamara9155
    @alanmcnamara9155 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video. BTW you have a greasy smudge on your top lip.😂

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +1

      Yea... I was WAY to lazy to shave the morning of recording. I was a bit behind. =)

  • @jdub7771
    @jdub7771 Před 8 měsíci

    This is so difficult in my training currently. Just trying to remember what's being said and reading back without a brain fart lol.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 8 měsíci

      I know what you mean! Seriously though, checkout plane english! It can help a LOT!

  • @ockett7047
    @ockett7047 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you make a video about CTAF calls? I am training out of an uncontrolled airport in Australia. Thanks

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety

      Is this what you’re looking for? czcams.com/video/3yItNvFk1mk/video.html

  • @foesfly3047
    @foesfly3047 Před 2 lety +4

    Anyone who operates out of KDVT should get a gold star or silver wings on their pilot certificate. My Base is Mesa Falcon Field. It is sometimes busy but nothing like the Class Delta equivalent of LAX that Deer Valley often is.

    • @harryshaw4998
      @harryshaw4998 Před 2 lety +1

      I loved flying into Falcon Field, it was so easy

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed!

    • @MacGyverGTP
      @MacGyverGTP Před 2 lety +1

      Deer Valley has calmed down a lot from just a few years back.

    • @foesfly3047
      @foesfly3047 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MacGyverGTP yes that’s what I’m seeing lately. Now Falcon Field’s traffic has increased dramatically.

    • @Cessna152ful
      @Cessna152ful Před rokem +1

      Did my training out of dvt at west wind, makes you a great pilot

  • @timwilson7326
    @timwilson7326 Před 10 měsíci

    Why did he instruct you to go to the runup area if you didnt ask to do that? Do all cessnas require engine runup prior to departure?

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Some airports have runup areas, others do not and you just do it at the end of the runway. All piston engine aircraft do a runup to double check systems and controls. At our airport they will aways send us to the runup area unless we request otherwise.

  • @thomasblassick6960
    @thomasblassick6960 Před rokem

    Great video but I'd like to point out that you truncated your tail number before tower. Technically a no no but so many of us do it.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před rokem

      A lot of us do. I had a bad habit at the time of doing that when verifying, but not on initial contact. Some of the coms in this were edited though, to help make the video flow better.

  • @syntherwilll47
    @syntherwilll47 Před 2 lety +3

    What's romeo 8?

    • @matthewkorniczky
      @matthewkorniczky Před 2 lety +2

      I could be wrong, but I think it’s the taxiway that he was located at.

    • @syntherwilll47
      @syntherwilll47 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah could be a taxiway 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @TheFunninthesun
      @TheFunninthesun Před 2 lety +3

      R8 is the ramp area where he is currently located. (That’s where the north hangars are) So he called Ground to request taxi to the Runway. Ground responded telling him to taxi to the engine run up area via Alpha. He needed permission before entering taxiway Alpha. Hope this helps!

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +3

      Romeo 8, or R8 was my location on the airfield. Telling them that allows them to locate me immediately and provide appropriate directions to where I need to go. If you look at an airport diagram you'll see them labeled between parking and taxiways. Here's a link to mine - skyvector.com/files/tpp/2106/pdf/06646AD.PDF

    • @matthewkorniczky
      @matthewkorniczky Před 2 lety

      @@flywiththeguys @TheFunninthesun Thanks! Very helpful!

  • @lorenzomagni9200
    @lorenzomagni9200 Před 2 lety

    What's a runup?

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 2 lety +2

      It's where you put the plane through its paces and double check everything prior to departure.

  • @derdere7803
    @derdere7803 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I will never understand why ATC is in such a hurry and mumbo jumbo the words.

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Depends on the airport. When you’re managing 1000+ operations getting through things quickly is important.

  • @tonyr.2321
    @tonyr.2321 Před rokem

    speed x .75.

  • @mitchellmimier5004
    @mitchellmimier5004 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video, but good lord I'd be calling in a complaint against that controller. Her enunciation is terrible. She's not busy, no excuse for that nonsense. "Clertulun," give me a break. I wouldn't have known what she said without your subtitles. Anyways, great video!

    • @flywiththeguys
      @flywiththeguys  Před 8 měsíci

      Yea. I know what you mean. Everything is so standardized that I understand the calls and am mostly verifying what I know is coming and repeating as needed. I can get caught off guard when something isn't standardized.

  • @desmondburnett9152
    @desmondburnett9152 Před rokem

    Try speaking slower, there’s no rush.