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0:00 Introduction
4:55 S1E1
37:32 S1E2
56:13 S1E3
1:16:12 S1E4
1:37:44 S1E5
2:04:38 S1E6
2:32:14 Lead up to Season 2
2:36:36 S2E1
3:02:25 S2E2
3:33:24 S2E3
4:06:36 S2E4
4:36:49 S2E5
5:06:49 S2E6
5:37:53 Lead up to US Remake
5:43:14 US E1
6:00:38 US E2
6:16:48 US E3
6:32:10 US E4
6:41:39 US E5
6:53:21 US E6
7:05:00 US E7
7:17:45 US E8
7:30:06 Conclusion
7:35:47 Outro Montage
7:39:19 Closing notes
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The response to this video has been amazing thank you all so much. Definitely going to focus on more long form content in the future.
I've seen loads of people that actually want to watch the show themselves without my commentary. The show is notoriously hard to get hold of without major cuts and the aspect ratio being messed with.
The easiest way is to get season 1 and 2 on amazon video make sure to only click the ones with the channel 4 watermark and blue banner. The britbox version has been heavily censored.
This only works for people in the UK. Even a VPN won't work as it'll decline your payment if you try to buy it overseas.
For everyone else it's a bit more tricky. It is on amazon but it's been heavily edited, with scenes cut and the aspect ratio messed with so everything looks more zoomed in, going against the entire point of the cinematography.
If you have a VPN you can set your region to the UK and then search to buy the channel 4 version of Utopia from the CZcams store. I bought it myself to test it and the aspect ratio is the same and the scenes are uncut. It's the best version you can get outside of the UK legally.
The Utopia subreddit has a post explaining how to watch it untampered if you don't live in the UK. I think they're going to be more active again since this video's been released. I'll update this post if I get any more information.
www.reddit.com/r/utopiatv/comments/j1efu8/how_to_watch_the_original_show_uncut/
TL;DR UK > US + ratio
LOVE YOU PYRO
Also haha first reply i need to sleep for school but im gonna finish this
Sup
Awesome work man.
GREAT VIDEO BRO👌🏾
This vid is godlike, thanks man.
I love how Pietre just dabs on each of his victims just to flex how alive he is
Based
Imagine if he just started nae nae’ing on the dead bodies
Same
I think he’s just covering his face from getting blood on it lol. I think it’s meant to show how used to killing he is and how depersonalized he’s become from it
@@thorjacobson8122 wooosh
“The best (and worst) show”
Me: that doesn’t make sense
“There’s a US remake”
Me: oh ok now it makes sense
we suck at tv
@@hoplul and the UK version was the best because it knew when to fucking end
saving funniest parts in case i come back trying to find it
1)3:00:49
2)3:04:54
3)4:00:45
4)4:04:26
I thought he meant the themes of the show and how dark it was until I saw the timestamps for the US versions lol.
Us Americans, ruining art at every turn.
fun fact; the reason British child actors are so good at acting in drama is because they have experience from being British their whole lives
Their so good at it because its all theyve ever known lol
top 10 times actors weren't acting
Hahaha omg you're so funny
@@ryanelcock948Yes,he is.
Ah yes the horrors of living in the 1st world country, and one of the richest at that
Just joking lmao UK is a shithole n fkin sucks balls
Something I realized about why it's a Chinese sign for "rabbit" in particular. One of the more popular myths about the rabbit in China is related to the moon goddess Chang'e. The rabbit is portrayed within the moon, brewing the elixir of immortality (preservation, human survival). As to how it got there, well, one time during the moon festival celebration all the animals were giving something to the humans and the rabbit, having nothing to offer but its own delicious flesh, threw itself into the fire so the others could eat it. For that, they were placed in the moon, in plain sight, yet always disconnected. Again, being Mr Rabbit won't get you recognition, or fame, and you won't be noted in history - it's just sacrifice after sacrifice, dedicating your entire being to the cause and letting others feed off of it. One more way the network sees itself as martyrs, to bring salvation to the world through the ultimate sacrifice, which they view as noble.
That's interesting! Thank you.
holy shit touhou
damn, Pyro really pushing that 10 minutes mark
smh he's really a sellout for that ad revenue
lol
8 minutes now
@@ItsRileyYT wasn't that funny relax
@@ItsRileyYT relax kid go cry
I told my sister that I was watching a show called Utopia and she told me she had seen it. I said I was on season 2 and she didn’t know there was one. Then figured out she had watched the US version. Heartbreaking. Had to put her down.
Keeping the Gene Pool clean, well done.
@@andrepfennig9534 a step closer to Utopia
You're doing gods work...
There will be no Trace
Man, im sorry for your sister. But you did the right thing, Solider.
...THIS was CANCELLED????
I am so fucking disappointed.
wel fucking come
4:14:20 love how a year ago he was already playing cruelty squad and the time he takes to make his videos is so great, that the video came out a year after. I honestly thought he played cruelty squad for like 2 months and made a video about it in a month. the dedication is huge
trueee
most of that year was probably spent catching the DOS fish
Nuh uh
honestly the details he finds and deep dive into things is so impressive
@@rckkkkkkksup denji
The torture scene with wilson was way worse in the original script. Wilson was strapped down and forced to watch League Of Legends, but this was too violent for British TV, and had been forced to change to something more tame.
Wise words garfeldi
No he has forced to watch the US remake of utopia
He had to scroll through Twitter politics
a fate worse then death
“OH GOD NOT THE ESPORTS PLEASE”
-Wilson Wilson
Because of the length you kinda have to watch the whole thing because you gotta know what possesses a man to dedicate his life to 12 episodes of tv
and that is the killian experience
Killian you are my favorite dark souls lore youtuber
Make a video where you repeat the word "Nuts" 176 times.
yeah when he said that his next essay was gonna be 8 hours long I knew I had to watch the entire show the show first which I'm glad I did I just finished season 1 and it did not dissapoint a 10/10 and a great cliffhanger
these are all the things Pyro liked from the American Version
Grant's Resourcefulness
The nice nod to arby covering his face when shooting someone
The scene where michael tries to slam the door only for it to fail
The soldier lady actually calls the CDC for confirmation
Christi and Arby's Dynamic (arguably)
Arby smashing the raisins
Michael trying to put down the drink and not finding anywhere to put it scene
Lily's character (Pyro's intepretation)
The Jogger scene
Now do the English version
@@maxwithaddedimus8780 00:00
Paul Ready as Lee is maybe my favourite performance of the show. He is so terrifying, but so charming. Completely honest about his motives and his psychopathy, even admits he's afraid of Pietre. Cold, efficient and pragmatic
post nerve damage glow up
and also because yellow
Right? Like he comes off as an average charmer who’s secretly done horrible things
It’s an interesting character instead of outright evil
Agree, didn't even make the actor connection watching motherland because he's just so vastly different in it!
I feel like pyro just has hundreds of random clips of games he’s played and is desperately trying to find a place to put them
definitely
Pretty much me with my lame ass drone videos
Honestly probably
@@StrikeWarlock that's not gonna make people watch, I hope
100%
The american remake is very deep. US Wilson's lost eye is the opposite one from UK Wilson, this symbolizes how the British drive on the opposite side of the road compared to America.
Godamn you, made me laugh British jokes are my weakness
Deeper than his eye socket
based pfp!
Bravo Vince!!
I mean tbf, that bit of analogy probably would’ve needed an entire room full of writers and philosophers because it would require more than 10 brain cells to create any subtlety or hidden meaning.
With the UK network, I would be afraid of them breaking into my house I broad daylight, killing me, and making it look like I was suicidal the whole time, leaving without giving it a 2nd thought. With the US network, I’d be afraid of them ratioing me on Twitter.
i feel like getting rationed is almost worse than getting killed tbh
@@echolight6272 People who don't have Twitter:
-What the Fuck is a ratio?
Man I was so invested in Pietre really wanted him to see get a happy ending. Even tho he was a cold killer for the network he was created to be like that and deserved more
Right? I really wanted to get to know more of him
im sensitive but i SOBBED when he introduced himself as pietre to jessica and kept stuttering
yea he totally deserves to be the last man standing in the finale
Pyro has literally alpha male mentality:
-Doesn't upload anything for 3 months.
-Drops a massive ass 8 hours long video.
-Goes in his bathtub again for another 3-5 months.
CZcams then proceeds to send one of its Network agents... :)
he’s gonna be horribly wrinkled
holy shit the rabbit bite makes me want to kill myself theres so much wrong
Kolto tank*
*drops 7 hour video, refuses to elaborate*
Sigma mindset
First 6 hours: 2 sittings
Last 2 hours: 7 sittings
My own personal experience
I'm 3 hours in, the American version that bad?
@@gearyt2355 yes
@@gearyt2355
No.
Its worse.
I'm 4.5 hours in, I didn't mean to watch so much in one go but I've been watching alongside doing a shit load of cleaning / organising and I can't put it down. Seeing this comment made me chuckle, I'm approaching the danger zone.
pretty much same
10 years later, it would be really cool if they made a season 3 where over the years, Wilson's been rebuilding the plan and solidifying himself as just as much of a force as Milner was, Grant and Alice growing up and being sucked back into the life, etc.
The fact that Wilson’s name Adeel Akhtar sounds like Ideal Actor is perfect because he is such a good actor
Damnit, someone else already said it
It’s called Nominative Determinism, where someone’s name points them towards their career, like how if someone’s name is “Seymour Butts” they’ll be more likely to become a gynecologist lol
Another dumb thing about the US remake: Jessica's tattoos.
Every tattoo shop I've ever gone to requires some form of ID. Something Jessica would be waaaaaay to paranoid to have. Not to mention how they would make her much more recognizable, not something you'd want to have if you're trying to stay under the radar of a global conspiracy. Plus, fucking expensive. That's potentially several hundred dollars worth of ink on a woman who, theoretically, has never worked a job, is constantly on the move, and who is so on edge that she forgoes sex in case she has to make a break for it. But we're supposed to believe that she willingly walked into a business (possibly with CCTV,) showed a government issued ID, made an appointment, paid hundreds of dollars from her limited funds, and sat in a chair for several hours to get some leaves on her arm and calf?
Not to mention the constant upkeep you have to do after getting a tattoo to ensure it doesn’t get infected. I doubt she’d have the time to ensure that she puts some antiseptic cream on her arm or calf either. And that’s just a whole other risk for her because it could very easily cos major problems for her if it got infected.
Yes exactly, if they wanted to give her character some physical feature like that then stick and poke tattoos would make much more sense, but like you're saying that would put her at a huge risk for getting sick from infections. All in all story's shit -69/10
I'm only an hour into this video so maybe it's brought up in the video but wouldn't tattoos also be a way for people to identify her? Something she absolutely does not want
They gave her tattoos cuz oOoOoOo edgy!
@@unus_3882 Memento Mori
god the scenes with pietre as a child honestly fucking hurt
Stings doesn’t it
Honestly, so fucling sad. Just wish someone would have hugged him.
No cap my favorite out of all the cast. His eyes just fucking gets me every time. All he wanted was a hug from his dad and he got shot for it
@@olivia9347 it's fucking not fucling
@@Dornana wow really?
I want to rant about the US version because holy fuck it sucks.
The characters are too different, the writing doesn’t feel like an improvement, and subtlety is so low compared to the UK. It doesn’t feel like it’s a story I would want to be invested in. Wilson doesn’t have enough development to make his actions more understandable, Jessica is just an ass instead of someone who has been too focused on being on the run, RB feels less intimidating even with a gun, and Milner is just obsessed with Jessica instead of blending in to get to her. The plot sucks because instead of them using viruses and brainwashed people in order to fulfill their duties, it’s more focused on shooting people who got utopia and a medical company with a good name (as well as anything else).
I hate to say it, but this is the Velma of Utopia.
nah us utopia is a masterpiece
@@etex_y596 A trash Masterpiece maybe. Even is it wasn't a remake it's sucks, The characters are unlikable and everything is far too over-explained.
@@etex_y596 Assterpiss?
@@CbOt7 nah bro its god send peak its makes oppenheimer look like a kids show
Even though this is a nearly 8 hour long video, I keep watching every few weeks just because of how brilliant it is. Every time that montage plays at the end gives me chills and reminds of how much of a masterpiece the show was, and this video.
One thing I noticed about Pietre is that you never see him blink onscreen (maybe I missed a few but as far as I’m aware he doesn’t) showing he’s simply unfazed by literally anything that happens to him. It’s such a small, insignificant detail that adds so much to his character.
5:36:58
One *notable* time when he blinks is Season 2, Episode 2, and it's *hilarious.* The "reunion" of Lee and Arby. They're seated at the table (quinoa, ha ha), and Lee says, "Nothing's over. They're starting up again. And I know things. Example: I know they want *you*"... (Arby blinks twice here)... "for a job." That whole Arby and Lee reunion scene is my favorite scene in the entire series. Brillance from start to finish.
@@Griwhoolda I guess this kinda shows how through the show he slowly but surely becomes more and more human and "normal"
@@Messmer_Sympathizer ok but I feel like that could’ve worked as maybe a rebirth for him, with him coming back to life and finally coming to grips with his past, and therefore blinking now too, but we never got a season 3 so who knows?
3:37:22
I basically just watched this whole show, and I didn't even pay a tellie license
@@cjlister8508 you still need a TV licence, even on All 4 it asks you to declare you have a TV licence which tbh most people just say yeah lol without even reading it but by law you're still supposed to.
A tchellie loicense ol’ chap??
@@August-xd5gm LMAO
i cant believe you've done this
simple as
one thing im disappointed that this show doesnt actually (seemingly) interrogate is ecofascism - a very niche environmentalist belief that can perfectly describe the beliefs the network was founded on.
ecofascism purely believes that overpopulation is, in and of itself, the issue, and fails to acknowledge global and systemic issues of distribution and wealth. you could say that the network has just enough influence to do what they do in the show, but not enough to actually rework global distribution systems or implement clean energy globally - however, milner has direct access to hundreds of billions in wealth, as shown by the scene where she explains V day to jeff. so a discussion of what kind of person would choose to sterilise a world instead of improving it would be nice. and i do think its more in milners character to choose the former - but a diagetic investigation of that fact would be really engaging, and could maybe open the series up to seeing what kinds of people would CHOOSE the former over the latter as well.
Why would they criticise their current real world process of far left ecofascism 😂 that's like letting the system/network to investigate itself naivety abounds all around me I swear.
I love how the consistently good thing from the US remake is the scene with the funny office actor, from the door slam with the door stopper, failing to get inside the quarantined area, to the fake house realization
"Insanely long essays that took months to make" are becoming my favourite kind of CZcams video.
Indeed, some of the best vids out therr
I love that format, it's basically people spitting all over CZcams's preference for short, shitty, frequent videos and saying "No, screw you, i'm gonna take all the time i need to make this beast as good as i can.".
@@sneezebiscuits7239 No, they have patreons, sponsors and china money not talking about their revenues from other videos, projects, merchs, streams or the sex shit for the females.
No they're not risking anything bad to their career, they have the money and time to make this. It's far from being a "fuck you youtube"
@@hikari67 not all channels that do this content are as big as this one. Smaller channels without so many resources are really harmed by the algorithm for taking time out to make an extende project
bald man in stained coat destroying people's reputation is mine
Just realized that Mr. Rabbit may be an ironic name as Rabbits are known to, well, reproduce a lot
Dang never thought of dat
That's actually pretty cool. What does the US remake do? Make literal rabbits the carriers of the virus. I swear they killed off anyone in the set that proposed to be subtle in the show
Alice in Wonderland imagery
@@matthewbaang8749 really? fuck those guys rabbits are good pets. also I think it's more that the general audience of America hates subtlety and slower moments. i say this as someone who has lived my entire life in America we don't usually like subtle things in our media and shows that make you think will generally be viewed much less than the "ha ha funny laugh track sitcom" or "humans are trash people let's give these horrible people fame and money for no fucking reason" I apologize on behalf of most americans honestly show writers like Vince Gillam are more an accident than the norm.
@@Crystal_Dylan yeah, if you haven't seen that part of that video, basically the group went to burn down a travelling zoo that was suspicously always there whenever the virus spread in a certain location. they gunned all animals, mostly rabbits to prevent the spread, took one with them for no reason, and made possibly the dumbest plot point in the show, by (spoilers) Jessica being bit by the infected rabbit after sticking her own finger in the cage. i don't know why they chose Jessica Hyde, the only professional in the group to do this. Also, you don't really need to apologize for Americans lacking subtlety, it ain't your fault. The US remake has a lot of faults, even without the hindsight of the UK version there are obviously terrible moments. the not-so-subtle rabbit infection was just one of them
The original version is highly stylized and had a unique concept (saturated colors to make it look like a graphic novel, an unsettling soundtrack that conveys the sense of your life being turned upside down). The US version by comparison was very safe and conventional.
I’ve been watching this over the course of a few days and seeing Pietre build a family broke me, no way he gets a happy ending
wilson is definitely the most interesting character. how can someone go from a conspiracist hiding in his dads attic, erasing himself from the internet to leading the conspiracy and cutting himself like that, fully sacrificing himself to the cause and becoming a merciless killer?? and then make it COMPLETELY REASONABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE???? such an interesting development, wish we got to see it in a 3rd season
What's neat is that he is arguably the best possible heir for Mr. Rabbit, since he basically has no identity on the Internet, he essentially doesn't exist.
@@StrikeWarlock so true! Plus anyone who probably knew him in person is either dead or captured by him. He very much became Mr. Rabbit in the end and I love his character. I wish we got to see how much worse he would have gotten compared to Milner
The third season is just real life mate...
Wilson is scary because he puts his beliefs over his own life and the life of others.
@@dragondog1017 the only people that know he exists is his dad, and the main group, his dead is dead in the gutter and the group is still under The Network Custody. So yeah, unless Wilson has friends (which I think he doesn't considering he lives in an attic).
The American version is basically just Jessica holds 4 people hostage, while a boardroom fails to kill America themselves.
@utachan It's shit
@utachan It’s shit
@utachan it IS shit
@utachan its quite shit
@utachan it's shit
Unironically, this is one of the best videos on CZcams.
This is such a thorough retelling of a series that I likely will not ever have proper access to. I know I am late to comment, but I just happened to have stumbled upon your page, entirely, today and couldn't help but comment my appreciation for this video and the abundance of work you/your team have put into sharing your feelings with us. Also, The Girl With All the Gifts is one of my absolute favorite films ever. I have watched it probably 15x since I found out about it, as I have felt the need to share it with everyone I know as much as possible. Also, ALSO, I watched Dystopia first (If memory serves...) and then I found out about Utopia, so I was super excited but after watching it in its entirety, I just couldn't get next to it, like, AT ALL... It is affirming to know that my reasoning for disliking the US version was a legitimate and shared feeling across the pond. Especially in the case of US Jessica. I really, really disliked this character with deep rooted passion. && LOL @ the parkinglot murder scene. I like how the GingerTwins Terminator 2 out of a bush together and then proceed to be BODIED in broad daylight whilst patrons are VISABLY driving around in the background (as if cops wouldnt have shown up immediately irl in the US if some random black folk were spotted knife murdering white kids in a parkinglot... again... IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!.... ::cough:: Stupid. Ridiculously stupid.)
Edit: Locke & Key is a pretty cool show. It is one that I didn't expect to like and just put on in the background one evening whilst aiding my mom with grading homework, .............then I ended up actually really enjoying it. Though, it is far too much to go into in some comment on a video released over a year ago lol.
I bought all 3 series on dvd from ebay quite cheaply, that way I can watch it whenever I want 😊
The fact that the US version unironically has the Rabbit say, “We did it! We created a monster!” legitimately sounds like self-parody. Like, holy shit, you might as well have one of the fucking Harvest members tap their fingers together like Mr. Burns and say, “Ah yes, our evil plan is coming together!” That’s so incompetently unsubtle
Thank you from someone who was sure they had seen this show but was completely confused by the "different cast" lol.
As a US resident, I'm sorry my country fucks up good British shows(especially the inbetweeners)
that's American tv in a nut shell, everything is spoon fed in a condescending manner like the average person is a dribbling mouth breather.
@@bushiido8494 it's quite insulting too, it's how basically every big budget show or movie is made here though
@@bandawin18 As an Aussie, this is actually something I've noticed. When you see a good American version of a tv show, you can almost 100% guarantee that you will get a less bloated, more witty, less over-explained version from the Brits.
Pyro is like every english teacher ever:
"Her outfit can be interprated as her personality"
"him not being able to close the door shows he has no control over his life"
I'm acctually amazed by pyro noticing these little details, it's like art
I hope he does more videos like this as long as he does a couple short videos every few months
Because movies are art
@@michaelb4415 Not a movie
@@michaelb4415 not all movies are art. And this is a series.
Pyro said that he probably will not do another video as long as this again, he enjoyed the process but it's way too long and it's what kept him from making videos due to his mindset, he made this video in 3 months and that's constant working. Do I hope he makes a video like this again? Fuck yeah, will it happen? We'll never know
I am so happy I watched this video. About halfway through, I paused, watch all of utopia seasons 1 and 2, then came back. it truly is the best show I have ever watched, and the soundtrack is amazing
what I absolutely hate about any remake/reboot is that they make everything so obvious, for example, Becky's disease in the original, it was hinted at and shown many times that she had something to hide but we didn't know what until it was actually revealed, in the US version it's immediately thrown into our face, my question is why? what is the point of completely disregarding the original and its intriguing mystery? I understand it's a remake but what is the point of remaking something if you're going to throw the original ideologies away? you might as well brand it as a completely different show
I feel like I really should pay for this.
Patreon bro
EDIT: I stand corrected, I forgot Pyro didn't have a Patreon, buy his merch instead!!
also the full show is legally free on youtube, but I do get you're talking about this video, which is a masterpiece
@@SiamHossain7 bet! this guy is dope. i just discovered him yesterday lol (edit: i signed up for patreon but it wasn’t him apparently? if there’s a proper link to donate post in the thread)
Buy merch
@@ETD bro, i suggested you checking out all his reviews on games and films and stuff along the like. he has got a knack for this, and it's a miracle how he has shrugged off his commentary past.
"I wanted to let you know you were loved, cuz I wasn't..."
God my fucking heart can't take much more of Arby and his loveless life.
RB
Petrie
john
You're all wankers.
RB: refrigerator broke :(
Absolutely amazing to see the extraordinary amount of engagement on this, a 7.5 hour video, so long after the original series was cancelled one season too early. Could this provide a glimmer of hope for a S3 of the UK version?!
Pyro says that Lee is in between Wilson and RB (idk how to spell his real name) on the spectrum of emotion when it comes to killing, however I would say RB is in between Wilson and Lee. Wilson doesn’t like killing, while Lee almost enjoys it. RB falls in the middle as he’s completely emotionless as he kills.
Jessica’s US version really bothers me after seeing the UK version. Beyond just making her less likeable or understandable the performance really misses the mark. In the UK version the actor did an amazing job making her feel like an out of place outcast, she was cold, unpredictable and had this strange alien quality to her speech and movements. Then the US version comes along and just feels like an edgy cool girl that gets added to every other show.
Absolutely fantastic.
I agree, not to mention they are depicted as not like normal, quirky, cool and edgy and it ruins their writing it's disappointing how common this poor writing is in most female American characters to make them "badass". (Hopefully I wrote this whole thing right)
ikr the american version annoyed me so much
Agreed, even if you considered the UK unlikeable, everything she did, she did for a reason and it made sense
Pyro is gonna break all records of watch time
true true
Hopefully, anyways I’ll take the honors of saying “sup checkmark”
@@IOSIRIS They have a name you know
Can't believe it's at 2.8 mil and it's for a 7 hour fucking video. I'd love to know the statistics on this vid. Great video essay as always by pyro
@@orang9134 I’m just acting like people who go around and only comment “sup checkmark “ just to jest them
2 years later... It's finally time to watch this.
What a brilliant show! Shame it ended like that. As always, ruined by sheer greed.
I return to this video every 6 months after randomly remembering it exists and binge it all in one sitting for no reason.
10/10 video.
“No i do like cocaine and prostitutes but they didn’t have to tell anyone” Top 10 lines ever
This is not the petscop 2 we asked for but the one we needed
Yes
@ThyPeasantSlayer its already confirmed he WONT do petscop 2 because he feels like it wont live up to the original petscop video
Hello Mr. Starcat
So Petscop 2?
Petscop 2
The genophage was a good thing to bring up, because the writers of Mass Effect actually wrestle with this concept better. Like Janus, the genophage was designed to maintain a stable population--just keep living like normal, trying to have kids like normal, and enough children will be born to keep everything steady. But that's not what happened--removing the ability to have kids from most krogan robbed their lives of meaning. So many of them no longer cared, went off to live lives entirely based around gratification, with absolutely no concern for survival. On the other hand, some clans did try to cope with it, by treating women like baby factories, hoarding them to try and grow armies to use against the other clans. The result was immense societal breakdown; even their own, few sacred traditions were cast aside by a race now bitter and fatalistic. Of course, this was done in self-defense, against an aggressor that was killing millions, by a bunch of other races, so the situation is not exactly the same. But the idea that you could neuter 90-95% of the human race and expect things to continue on as normal, for some kind of gradual reduction in population to a more sustainable level, is crazy, for all the same reasons they give for why a lack of resources will lead to violence. If you think fighting for limited supplies of oil and copper would be brutal, imagine the fighting over fertile women, over the ability of groups to maintain their existence or even thrive, at least relative to their neighbors. The whole planet would erupt in violence, as groups (nations, religions, whatever) fought for what they believe to be their very survival. Those able to have kids would be sequestered in bunkers, churning out children--those who can't would likely find themselves essentially enslaved, unless they were lucky enough to get into a position of power. If nukes start flying, well, there goes the whole "It's for the planet" excuse. Not to mention, what if it works TOO well? What if EVERYONE is infertile, or such a massive percentage that the human race can't survive? Whoops!
I just realised that there is a slight parallel between mythological god, Odin and Wilson. The parallel being that Odin sacrificed his eye for all knowledge while Wilson had his eye taken for knowledge of who truly leads the world
damn
lets pay some respect to pyro RAM for rendering 8 hours material. he is the real hero behind the process.
or maybe sony vegas for somehow not fucking exploding
He has an editor now
@@kai-wyoming No, this was his passionproject he made himself.
@@ylondes9927 no he literally said he worked on it with his two editors on stream
um its kind of problematic to give masculine pronouns to good things because of the history of what men have done to women and indigenous people................
Idk how he does it but the pacing is actually impeccable. I can’t imagine watching a one hour review on anything but there’s something pyrocynical does that makes a 7 3/4 hour review not only bearable but enjoyable
I feel like I was getting a little bored when the American show came around, mostly because it's abysmal and it's not really pyro's fault
@@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness yea same that was my stopping point, I just picked it back up today. But I enjoyed the whole 7 hours
@@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness yes I agree after the UK version and the plot twists and everything coming together like making a amazing dish starting with a Mizan plus I just got bored and I’m rewatching also another great thing is that in the UK version it’s one of those rare shows where everything is done well,filmatogrophy,composition,writing and theratical scenery
Bang on
the american version was so lame and infuriating i stopped watching the video after pyro explained a bit of it.
the original was a dark and depressing show full of plot twists and great characters
the american version was like every teenager quirky adventure show. also making like 40% of the white characters black seems like forced wokeness
Wait a sec I just realized something
(Spoiler Below)
Grant was the group's first killer, back in season 1 he 2:22:32 to Milna's assistant and it never gets brought up properly.(maybe it does just not mentioned in the video)
But in season 2 5:03:56 he does receive quiet a bit of shock to his system after executing Milna.
Grant was less mature and was also trying to protect his mum.
True that, when your whole world is at risk it's do or die.@@yakobsoulstorm5187
His shock came only after Phillip Carvel started sobbing over her death, so i reckon Grant felt the shock because he immediately felt what comes after
1:42:25 Pietre seems somehow slow, but his situational awareness, reaction and control is inhuman.
The only person he lost his control to is Jessica. And in Season 2, another family member, his Father.
It seems so natural for him. For the USA-RB however, it feels artificial and lucky.
The color palette in the UK version feels so distinct. The deeply saturated colors just gives you the feels and kind of misleading in good way where it seems childish, yet actually violent. It also helps me focus on the characters better for some reason
It makes them stand out doesnt it?
Yes that was specifically said in this video
Thanks for quoting pyrocynical 👍
I wish pyro would’ve pointed that out.
Yeah cool nice one quoting something Pyrocynical said in the video.
can't believe how they absolutely butchered Pietre in the American version, him going from a uncomfortable but efficient killer who doesn't take time in his kills (because why would he) to the exact opposite
Bad writer? Bad production overall? Bad acting? All of the above?
Who knows!?
Least he killed an E-Girl in the penthouse
@im ded what’s the name of the show again?
Americans
*an
At 2:17:35 it shows how dugdale would be a great father like his wife says it shows how much he does care about children and kind of gaining a child he’ll never get
5:59:46 omg is that the hit game cruelty squad that pyro made a video on in 2023
I love that Mr Rabbit is named after rabbits, animals that are typically associated with mass breeding and large quantities of children, subtle irony like that is why I love this show.
HOLY SHIT wow I didn't even notice that
Also the idea of "falling down the rabbit hole"
@@TheAstroProblem yeah, damn so many hidden meanings
They named it after Rayman raving rabbids the hit video game
Dam, didn't even fuckin thought about it
Feeling bad for the people that were subjected to watching the amazon US version of the show rn
Literally everybody is watching this video what the hell
im actually quite glad that i found the US version.. i thought the idea was great but the execution sucked so i searched for videos explaining how shit the US show actually is and i found a comparison video and fell in love instantly with the UK version
The original is on Amazon too you just have to have two working neurons to find it
omg i was trying to watch it and clicked on the US version instead of the UK one for an episode and a half I was so confused why Pyro made an 8 hour video on it
Honestly after watching this amazingly long (but still worth watching) video I can't believe how much the US Amazon version took a complete 180
Uk: so this is a thriller dark, creepy, violent mistery about conspiracy and the government, with events based on real life consequences and philosophical horror!
Us:... oh so like, a marvel movie, with quirky characters and plot-device villains!
UK: n-no, there are no good and bad guys just people who help you and people who do-
Us: yeah! like a Marvel movie! with love interest! and shinenigans!
1:56:16 Just noticed that millner is subtly framed with what looks like devil‘s horns above her head.
Or rabbit ears
4:27:15 i am Romanian and i just want to say that the way Marius says this line has such a tone of "40 year old Romanian man living on a farm" energy. like what he said literally translates to "ayo old man you speak Romanian?" and Phillip replies "yes i speak the Romanian language". i haven't seen the series but based on pyro's description of Marius this line and tone fits him absolutely perfectly
It's also always fun to hear, as a romanian, non Romanian people fumble with â, ă, ț and such. You can tell that phillip's actor was just given a romanian line to read because he pronounces â and ă as just "a", meanwhile Marius's actor being natively Romanian can pronounce them correctly.
ALSO also, Pietre translates to rocks (plural) in Romanian. if Pietre's dad could speak Romanian maybe he was actually named after rocks? think about it, Pietre is monotone, cold and doesn't show much emotion, much like a rock. just seemed a little interesting to me
In my opinion it makes sense that Phillip would talk broken Romanian, since it's not a first language.
Pietre's meaning is indeed interesting, thank you for sharing!
Cumetre, eu zic ca de fapt il chema Petre si nimeni nu ii pronunta numele corect
So you're romanian? name every country you hate in the Balkans (all of them)
@@pneumonianakey serbia, bosnia and herzegovina, albania, montenegro, macedonia, bulgaria, croatia, slovenia, greece, kosovo (or not i dunno)
@@livispuzzled YOU LIKE T*RKEY???????????? 🤢🤢 IMAGINE!!!!!! 🤢🤢
I love that while changing his type of content, his “bullying” personallities stay the same
his content isnt changing, he just makes analysis videos on top of the usual commentary videos
@@ayyyayay homie he hasnt made a commentary video in so fucking long
@@Patchess 3/5 of his latest videos are videos similar to the 2018/2019 content he makes
dhar mann, arcade craniacs, and big ed..
@@Patchess i count most of his videos commentary but in a different sub genre
commentary vids u reffering to are like from cody/danny while these videos like petsop, far cry etc. are like TRO
@@ayyyayay 2018 isnt commentary dude we talkin 2016
I have to sleep for work but I can't get myself to shut the video off. This one is truly a quality video. I cannot believe I missed it when it came out. Good work, Pyro. Good work.
56:15 Second brief Cruelty Squad OST reference
Pyro literally every 10 minutes: This is probably the best scene in this show
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No
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I can't wait to add this show to my backlog and then take 8 months to finally watch it.
Are you going to add the official talk show too
Same
Love u too
SPHERE GUY
Andrew what are you doing here
You could so easily do a ten years later of this show. They need to do that two hour special now!
So the villain shoots Jessica and then walks right up to her, crouches down, and Jessica does nothing? Really? As brutal as she has always been, as clear-headed and obsessed with survival as she is, she doesn't go for the gun, she doesn't gouge out Millner's eyes, she just sits there? Also, why do we see two people from photos in 1973 look exactly the same 40 years later? Also, wait, why did Jessica go all the way into an office to "destroy a manuscript?" This makes no sense; just destroy it. You don't need to give it to someone else to destroy it, it's not made of some crazy, fireproof material, and she knows this because she DOES end up burning it. I don't even know why the writers felt the need for such a ridiculous, contrived setup when they could easily have just had Jessica ambushed somewhere. In fact, the entire team should have been caught by Millner, with the rest of them being killed.
It is fucking astonishing how Pyro went close to 8 hours without making 1 Hugh Janus joke.
Truly astonishing
Character development
the good ending
i heard Hugh Janus has genghis
@@notsotastysandwich8205 who's genghis ? Oh wait nvm without him we would have had another billion living on the planet
I did it, I finished the entire video.
And somehow i was glued to the screen the entire time. Well fucking done.
Same here
Hello mr mordhau guy I hope you're doing well :)
5 hours and 40 min in and im so sad that it ended on a cliffhanger lol
Same here
fucking same. I started yesterday evening when he just posted it and had to finish it today. Man, I even dreamt about this show without even watching it myself.
just realised the cruelty squad ost is used in this video, foreshadowing at its finest, bravo vince
yes!!
Letan definitely allowed Phillip to keep his daughter to use as a bargaining chip in the future.
Of course
It's power over him
She later decided to torture Jessica in front of him.
the madlad did it, he managed to upload it!
Took him 3 years just to upload lol
Love you gromek
I mean its worth it
Looks like a good video for how far I watched
yoooo gromek
Play mordhau
Going from the UK version to the US version is actually one of the most Jarring experiences I’ve had with a piece of art. How can the same story be told so well and then so terribly.
US media that's how
@@ShitpostShuster The US has produced some of the greatest films and television series of all time though, that most certainly isn't the reason. You'd think the problem is Amazon then, but then they have shows like The Boys and Invincible which perfectly emulate the source material. The Boys even being better than the source material; elevating it beyond the superhero hate porn written by the author. I think this is more of a problem with the people directly involved with writing and producing the show, they messed up.
I remember getting a Twitch ad for the US version and I was watching it thinking... hang on... this is ripping off Utopia! Then it hits me with the title card. I was disgusted. Fucking US remakes man.
@@jarlsterra American recreations of English TV more often than not go VERY wrong, there’s obviously outliers to that such as the office, but generally our subtle humour and nuanced way of conveying information doesn’t appeal to the American way of making the point very obvious which completely betrays most of the source material
Go watch the English dub for squid game and you'll understand
28:40 I see you were already playing Cruelty Squad while editing this.
4:14:18 Goddamn, Pyro was already involved in Cruelty Squad
Pietra is the best character in this, dude went from terrifying killer to nice guy who's still a terrifying killer
Edit: Yo when did this get 2k likes
it's Pietre
@@amultitudeofpeppers938 peter*
@@kuckless4918 Pita*
@@kuckless4918 it's not Peter or Pita it's Pietre
@@amultitudeofpeppers938 it's actually Petre since it's a romanian name lads
The way Pietre was handled in the US version removed pretty much all threat from his character. The UK character was threatening because of the slow and deliberate way he spoke, and the way he slowly waddles from place to place while still catching up. The US version has pretty much none of this and the tone of his voice makes him sound like a child rather than a threatening killing machine.
Nice pfp
@@BillyBlock17 nice pfp
all hail the boognish my friend
I think what makes me hate him is just how he just lacks subtlety
like, let’s say you are making a show and a character is christian or sumn
you would think to be subtle like let’s say they are put in a situation where they have to kill or sumn, you would make them pray in silence, ask for God’s forgiveness or just anything subtle.
the creator of the US version of Utopia would prob give the character a cross necklace, make them carry a bible everywhere and repeat verses from the bible just so you get it in your head that they are christian
I like if Arby in the US remake was called Peter, like pietre in the UK version, but they called JhOnnnn.
Good god that eye torture scene was tough, i have seen a lot of things in my time, but nothing quite as bad as that
the music in this show is 11/10. Christobal's music was an absolutely perfect fit for the eeriness of the series.
I love how pyro went from mlg parodies and commentary videos to making 8 hours analysis. He is one of the few youtubers who's content actually changed for the better through out time.
I agree, like most youtubers go from doing nice little charming content to, DSMP IMPOSTER DREAM 500IQ SQUID GAME. But pyrocynical actually got better over time.
truly great character development, i legit enjoyed this whole thing
It’s a good character arc for the youtuber anime.
I kinda feel like most youtubers advance to something better or different, it’s subjective really
Makes me sad about what happened to prestonplayz…
Wilson's shift from a conspiracy theorist to head of the conspiracy is such a great and original curveball for character development. It's a shame that everyone was robbed of a 3rd season. I'd love to see Wilson's wrath against the main group fully realized
is the series a cliffhanger? or is it finished
@@richardsainz4762 it was cancelled. Pyro talks about it in the video
I also love how perfectly set up his transformation was. He's the perfect person to be Mr. Rabbit, since he's already deleted any trace of himself from the world. He already doesn't exist
@@crispyhundos I never thought of that
Adeel Ahktar? more like Ideal Actor
The series seems quite good but their plan for controlling the population seems kinda odd. If you think about it outside the West people do birth many children but child mortality is high and the average age is low. The West, as we all know, is the opposite. We have an absurd amount of elderly whilst having a rather low birth rate which is often boosted by non-Western immigrants. If you wanted to control the population by focusing on the West you’d need to start by culling the old, kinda like the vikings did. We are already doing it in a way with medication. Given how the elderly tend to have various health issues at once the different medications can pretty much kill them. Not to mention that there are many situations that prolong life at the expense of quality, all while putting a tremendous burden on the economy and young generations. Point is that culling the elderly is actually quite necessary if we are talking about population control.
Now we have two options. Either we don’t employ any other policies and just keeping controlling the elder population since their lives have been devalued due to old age, or we take the chance to start controlling birth rates so that we don’t have to be killing the elderly. Controlling birth rates would be much more humane and it wouldn’t require sterilization.
All this could be employed in a long-term plan where it could happen at a rather natural rate (just accelerated), thus making it a bit more ethical than it actually is (refer to the whole culling the elderly thing).
I personally don’t think that over population is as problematic as people think. Without enough resources a species starts dying until their population reaches a sustainable number. With more people in the West we would have more people studying and developing more efficient technology (would be nice to also motivate the population to actually study useful degrees too). The non-Wester countries will self-regulate due to their own lack of a safe environment so them having more children isn’t an actual threat if they are kept underdeveloped (which most likely will happen).
bruh i was so fucking hyped by the ending, only to be immediately depressed
Same
Imagine watching it as it came out, I was crushed in my teens when the show was cancelled, it was something really special similar to other UK shows that aired at the time and in the years to come like the inbetweeners, skins, this is england and misfits but on a whole new level. Personally for me it was the first show that really fully captivated me, even the advertising for utopia was exceptional, its heartbreaking to know we'll never have a third season, I always wanted a real conclusion to the show.
I just finished the whole video. I seriously have an immense amount of respect for Pyro as a content creator, like I really hope everyone watching understands the genuine talent needed to be able to do what Pyro has managed to do with this video. I think this might be one of the greatest videos I've ever watched and that's me being 100% genuine. You've smashed it man
I watch it for third time now :D its great really.... The details on start and the fact that he talks about characters as he did not even know outcome yet...
im watching it for the second time starting now, dont worry, i understand its value
Sadly, the American ver is so bad, pyro barely make it interesting for me. But I would rewatch the first 5h non stop if I could
hello osm
Skill and brains* not talent
you just had to push it over the 8 minute mark
I watched this 8 hour long masterpiece, enjoying every second of it. Your unique insight and break down of the scenes makes it so much more interesting. Thank you so much for all your effort into making this!
One thing you never pointed out is that Rabbits are known for reproducing at an extremely high rate. A diabolical villain hell-bent on making most of the population infertile dawns the monicker of an animal that makes babies like there’s no tomorrow. The irony, wether purposeful or not, is a little funny
That is actually very cool, i was thinking of that too, and from all the small details in the show i believe it was intentional.
could that be why they have so many people behind?
This whole video was a masterpiece, but god the American breakdown was hard to watch after being completely enthralled on the UK side for 5 hours.. and the outro montage was an absolute incredible section.
Couldnt help but cringe the whole
time, There was no need for a remake.
@@Icosiheptagon I mostly agree but part of me still thinks about the timeline where David Fincher did work on the reboot. At the bare minimum it wouldnt have been even close to the trashfire we got.
@@Icosiheptagon Americans can't understand British, that's why there was a remake
I watched the first 5 hours almost in one sitting, but when the american version was discussed I took breaks constantly just not wanting to see any more of...that.
Nice profile pic
This is the third time I have watched this video in full - I just can't help it. It is so beautifully researched and broken down and the montage at the end ties it together so SO well. I bought Utopia on Amazon Prime and it quickly became a favourite of mine, wven introducing it to my boyfriend who plans on watching it himself because he loved the half of episode one I showed him.
I always love seeing a new longform video from Pyro as they are ALWAYS so well-made. I hope to continue to see more soon 🙏 ❤
Th UK version is so damn good just fantastic. I will add one thing Arby covering his face when shooting is a stylistic choice as it is very hard for an actor not to blink when a prop gun fires. It's a natural reaction also Clint Eastwood is one of the only actors that could keep his eyes open while shooting a prop gun. So the creator probably added the face shielding to hide that also it adds to the quirkiest of Arby. And the US version is like if your drunk mate was trying to describe the UK version from something he only half remembers.
The last two hours or so where he's going over the remake fill me with such an intense rage lmao. I've never even heard of Utopia, the original or remake, until watching this and I was legit getting mad at every wrong decision they made creatively for that show lol
@LowTierFallout especially american ones 🤮
It was so painful watching the last two hours, the us version was so bad
So many times Hollywood has taken non-American originals and ruined them
I don’t know what possessed me to sit down and watch a 7 hour and 40 minute analysis of a TV show I’ve never heard of, but I’m very glad I did. This was super entertaining and thought provoking from start to finish!
loved it as well
watch the show
Yes
I just realised that its 7houry long sth lol
Idk how he does it but the pacing is actually impeccable. I can’t imagine watching a one hour review on anything but there’s something pyrocynical does that makes a 7 3/4 hour review not only bearable but enjoyable
Can we talk about the fact that Michael in the US version is literally being denied equipment and every thing he has requested but he is able to get the DNA of a dead kid that had a virus and he doesn't question this.