Compression Test - JLR SDV6 Gen2 - Ford 3.0L Powerstroke Diesel / S5-EP18
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- We bought a used replacement engine with 145000 km for 7700 Euro for our Land Rover Discovery 4 to replace the exploded short block. In this episode we pickup the engine and perform a series of tests to find out if we bought a can of worms or if everything is good.
We are not liable for any harm you do to your car, your engine, your surroundings or yourself. Use the information given in this video at your own risk.
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Vera & Christian
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I agree with Christian. "What goes around, comes around" is what we say in English. Do the right thing by everyone you meet. Many years ago I sold a 3 year old car. It was a 4.2 litre petrol straight six and a young fellow rolled up with his father to take a look at it. I immediately said to the young man that this was not the right car for you, it is not fuel efficient and also it has a couple of small dents that I never got fixed. Later the father said to me that he valued my personal integrity and pulled out his police badge and thanked me for my honesty. They did purchase the car but I am still waiting for the karma to be returned.
Great Story. You will be repaid in time! Good Job Michael!
€7000 for a used engine from a dodgy dealer you have big balls Christian great content would love to see some tea drinking as you promised 😁👍
"BBC",big balls Christian,hehehe,I will watch your chan
nel any day everyday..wunderbar!
Time to start filming the coffee pot😂
he made it just for us CZcams viewers!! Great thank you to Christian and Vera 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Would have been cheaper to fly to Ireland 🇮🇪buy a used one and drive back. When vehicles hit the ten year mark there practically given away as the road tax is extortionate , great content any way you guys and love the channel 🔥🔥🦾keep up the good work.
l'm a 70 yr old aussie DIYer , love the humor in their videos , not many wives will help the hubby and listen to his bullshit to make an entertaining video..Great job V n C.
Christen and Vera, don't feel under the pump to produce car content.
As Jabullz said , we will watch and enjoy anything you guys want to talk about.
You guys are like wonderful friends we will never meet in person.
I personally enjoy the lathe/ mill work building tools that you do.
Best wishes from sunny Queensland, Australia.
Oh we love producing repair videos and it suits our place in life right now. With kids and older parents who need support. 👍👌🙋♀️
@@Vera_and_Christian All good , enjoy your content very much , cheers
Hello VERA AND CHRISTIAN, you took a big gamble with this engine, ITS NOT EASY, did you shop around? Best of luck with it, it will be interesting to see the outcome? Looking forward to next week video?
@@thomaskeane429I'm sure Christian did shop around a great deal before he but the bullet and went to this lot of arseholes!
@@samrodian919 I did post the info for a Jaguar diesel engine for sale in central Germany for 1/2 the price. It was deleted. Although, not sure if Jag engine will be a drop in in a D4.
Good morning. Car parts recycling in the UK is pretty similar, difficult people to deal with, as if they have something to hide.
Because they often do!
Yep.
A lot of them are not Anglo Saxons but often untermenschy types.
@@bertplank9892 Interesting in Australia, most of our used car parts guys are Anglo Saxons and they are uber dodgy or bikie gang members.
Let the Adventure Begin! This is better than a new series on Netflix!!
Better than "Wheeler Dealers"
Original VRM in UK was YY16EWS. Shows last mot test at 89,843 miles on 02/03/2022. SDV6 255 auto start stop.
Well done.
First registered in East Yorkshire March 2016. My own car is a YY16.......
@@stuarttordoff1140 yes - a Y registration means first registered in Yorkshire - some of the others I remember are : A = Anglia, B = Birmingham, C = Caerdydd (Wales) registered in Cardiff, G = Garden of England (Kent & Sussex), H = Hampshire (HW is the Isle of Wight), S = Scotland, W = West of England (Devon / Cornwall).
I actually know many of the German registrations better than the UK ones as I travel through Germany a lot.
So they lied also, what a surprise!
Sounds like it might be a good engine, here’s hoping (or not for good content?) 😉
This is one of a very few channels that I believe deserves the option of having a 'double' like button, it's informative, humorous and always worth watching. I've always wanted to upgrade to a Disco 4 but after 3 years of watching LR TIME I've decided that for the sake of my sanity and general well being I'm going to stay with my 21yr old Disco 2 until it finally dissolves into a large pile of ferric oxide (apparently it's only the various oil leaks which have prevented that happening so far). 😊
Good decision.
I have found that if you buy a written off car as a whole, salvage the engine which you have some information about and then sell off the usable parts and scrap what you can’t you usually get the part you want for free or even make a profit. Looking forward to another engine build!👍
In the 70s I was stationed in in Germany and I had a WV notch back that dropped a valve on the way back from Belgium...we had a lovely german veteran who worked with us and he took me to a small local scrapper and they had a choice of engines available...they sat it on a tyre and ran it up and it was fine..cost me DM150..how things have changed...love watching your channel you both work so well together....👍👍
Red is black and plus is minus. The mantra that has helped me with wiring debacles on so many occasions! Guten morgen.
I agree😂😂😂😂
I had to rewind 3x to make sure I heard right......ooof my non existent abs are sore from laughing.
Don't own a LR, but the channel is great! In Holland no problems buying spareparts. Most sellers are honest and mostly will give some discount or free shipping.
Huge difference in quality, great improvement! Thanks a lot Vera and Christian for reinvesting :)
Many car parts in UK come from stolen cars that are stripped for parts. And any low mileages quoted for parts are never true!
I forgot to say a "HUGE" thank you. I'm in New Zealand, I drive a 4MOTION VR6. I had a problem with some of the steering/ABS sensors. Some of them are unavailable from the dealer.
After watch a plethora of videos & going online over a 5year period to find the fault as I was getting ripped off because sensor after sensor with the braking system started to go. Every sensor starts at a few hundred dollars or euros then a pump alone is €2500+ The car is a 2001 model btw.
I checked on eBay to find "reputable" 2nd hand dealer. I saw many suppliers in Latvia/?Lithuania. I bought one from the UK & Germany if I remember correctly. Last year I sent my car back to my mechanic who then sent it to his auto-electrician/tuning guy. 1 of the sensors were bad. 😂
After your more than informative video on the subject of "used car parts dealers" in Germany/Europe. I will never make that mistake again. I watch your videos every week as I used to drive a Landrover & find you videos to be among the best the world can produce. Thank you so very much for the heads up.
Your honesty, integrity, ability, workmanship, ethics & wisdom are 2nd to none. It is important to pay tribute, where tribute is due. Cheers from Auckland 🇳🇿 🇩🇪
Morning! I’m a Brit living in Germany -Bonn- and everything Christian and Vera say about the used car and spares trade here is true. It’s like dipping your hand in a piranha tank - it’s a case of which finger are you prepared to lose. I have an old E39 BMW and hate buying old spares from the parts mafia - even the German ones are assholes. The area you got the engine from is like the down town motor city and has a bad reputation. I hope this engine works out for you!
Where in Bonn?
@@Oliver_996 Near Beuel, the side of the river that shows its ass to the Zentrum, if you know the story 😉
does the Brückenmännchen not show its bottom to Beuel?
Regards from Rüngsdorf! 😉
@@Oliver_996 I thought it was the other way around as Bonn tried to force the people of Beuel to pay for the bridge, and they refused, but Brückenmännchen has lived on both sides, and was rescued from the river by Beuelers! Some Brits say Germans have zero humour, but I know otherwise - especially with car parts!
I feel your pain dealing with the used parts guys, it seems like a very unethical industry.
Absolutely correct, in Germany at least, as Christian says. German Ebay is full of them selling crap.
Just as bad in the UK. Strip thieves mostly. Only worse are the engine ‘rebuilders’ selling engines….
That was one of the reasons why i bought genuine shortblock for my 2010 SDV6 ... it was expensive but in long term much better choice than buying used engine with unknown history.
I absolutely love the humor of @Vera_and_Christian, that and all the interesting things I learn is why I watch this channel without even owning a D3 or D4. I need to fix my D2 though.
Never feel bad about not uploading a video Vera and Cristian! I would watch anything you put out there, as I learn so much! A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (UK) I now live in Spain!! I had a series III LWB Safari 2.6 petrol. I loved it, but my god it drank fuel! I took it back to the dealer, who basically had a melt down. I was young, and naive and loved the great big tonka toy!! ...He was good enough to buy it back, but I lost a lot of money in the process. I then bought a Renault 9 and it did a lot more to the gallon!!!
It was a case of the heart ruling the head, or as my father said, 'blind faith' but I do love Landrovers!! They're in my blood, it's an addiction...I think I may need therapy!!!!!
Thank you for the time and trouble you take in doing what you do, it is appreciated by this Brit! xxx
Looking on the bright side (😅), you’ve rebuilt enough SD6’s now that it should be a cakewalk for you… but the costs sure do mount up.
And as for the engine mafia, there’s a UK breakers that proudly show off their helicopter purchased off the back of their business and they have a couldn’t care less attitude.
On the flip side, there are some decent people out there too; we should all name and shame the bad ones!
Way back in the 80’s stationed in Sennelager, I had a BMW E21 (I loved that car) our local scrapyard could not be more helpful. I wanted a set of Alloy wheels as my E21 had steel wheels. On checking their stock, they had 3 in excellent condition but one poorly curbed and some wheel nut missing and would not sell me them. Taking my number they would get back to me when they had a complete set and would hold the 3 wheels until that happened.
About 10 weeks later I got the call to come and get them. Was well happy with the result.
Many more visits after that and always looked after very well.
May be this free movement didn’t go down well after all 🤷
Super content as usual C&V
It's a good thing that JLR keeps making dodgy stuff. This will keep giving you lots of material for new content... forever.
Viewers we need to do our bit for Christian and Vera as their channel is awesome. Subscribe but like and share as much as possible to push them out into the wider community. ❤ LR Time
I would be certain that Christian and Vera explored all avenues in their search for an engine - including all known contacts helping. So, no need to offer any other thoughts. This will have been a calculated risk for valuable and enjoyable content. Sadly this "supply" situation is worldwide for as long as there is a demand. As the saying goes - "Some days you are the dog and some days you are the fire hydrant" 😁 Great Sunday morning as ever C&V
We looked around for two weeks and then we bit the bullet and spend 8k. Christian
Just to send some positive vibes: I had same situation with 2.7 in Citroen. I went to Warsaw, form Budapest and I bought from gipsy used tdv6, the backyard was horrible, they spoke russian between each other, dirt, parts everywhere. And guess what: I paid premium price as well. Cat in sack as you said. But, the engine was okay, and at the end of the day it worth the stress, and the suffer. I crossing my fingers for you guys 🙂
You guys are great! Love your attitudes -- your "Zen" approach to the "repair problems" that you encounter along the way is wonderfully relaxing for me to watch. My wife would be rich with all the money I'd have to put into the "Curse Jar" if it was me doing anything remotely as complex as what you're doing with that used engine!
I'm glad it's not only me, they treat you with so much contempt.
Always great video looking forward to Sundays
I normally watch on Sunday morning while having my coffee. I had a busy morning today, so watched it this afternoon with my wife. She really enjoyed the video and I think you guys have another fan.
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Thank you both for the great content. I do hope the engine works out. I bought a remanufactured BMW e90 engine about 7 years ago for about 6k and it worked out wonderful, but that was from a company that specialised in engine repair.
Very clever and full of knowledge you both make a good team
another great video, love the new camera. good luck with the engine.
Awesome video!!!! Can’t wait to watch the next one
Wow. The video quality seems much better. Was gonna ask then the end you mentioned it. Kudos
Another great video guys . Looking forward to the rebuild of that engine. Enjoyed watching. 👍🏼
As always Guys, another fascinating video showing how to approach sophisticated tasks on the LR 3.0 v6 diesel. Wishing you the very best of luck in the coming stages...
Dave
Thank you for another enthralling video, you two always make my Sunday complete. Kind regards from Perth Western Australia.
another good video thanks hope the engine is better than we thinkit is
Used car part dealers have always got you by the short and curlies, because like Christian says, you want it, they got it. I do hope that it is not a complete lemon, and that you get it up and running soon. The new camera is a great improvement on the one you've retired 👍. Another interesting video from you two, look forward to next week 😉🇬🇧
I love watching this channel from Australia
I’ve been lucky so far with my 2013 d4 and I love it for towing my caravan
I've got my cup of tea ready❤ here we go for dodgy engines😮
I really hope it's a servicable engine. Another great episode 😊
Great episode. New camera is definitely an improvement - much better contrast in low light.
It happens everywhere I once had to explain to a wrecker that had sold me a bad engine that no this is not just business it is infact very personal to me. He got the message in the end and reluctantly took it back. it was a small town and he avoided me for years after 😂
Excellent video thank you.
Great, enjoyable and honest videos. Definitely nice people.
Try Gentlemen of Salvage, Axminster, England. I ahve always found them to be exceptionally helpful and honest.
Once again another fantastic video! You could really do a video about anything and it would still be great content. Can't wait to see this engine rebuild though.
Brilliant video again from you both, I am slowly getting through all your films I find them so interesting and you keep the interest all the time with Christian's funny quirky comments. I am running a Disco 4 at the moment and every film gives me more to look at for future maintenance, I am all ready looking forward to seeing your next film, Many Thanks I love your films keep them coming
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It's a shame that engine numbers aren't simply recorded at every MOT or TÜV so they can be tied with the chassis and add some traceability without having a VRM. Still a brilliant video Christian and Vera. Maybe it's time to set up your own breakers yard
OMG. Looking forward to the strip down. At least you have the 'bones' of a good engine and once you have rebuilt it, then it will be better than new. 👍As for content, I am sure your followers will also be happy watching DIY stuff too😁
Good morning Vera & Christian 😊 Another perfect viewing on a Sunday morning with a cup of tea 🫖 How the used car part companies suck 😫 But on the upside your videos show how things really are and that make your CZcams videos the very best 👍🏻 Someone mention Rob & Chris about getting an engine as there channel is really good 👍🏻 Have a fantastic week and see you both next Sunday 😊 hug for Vera 🤗 xx Auf Wiedersehen
When I was young my father always said never by a Landrover .over the years I grew to understand why.
Great job once again guys and yes my Prado 4 cylinder so easy to do that test 😅😅
I sold my RR gen2 V6 diesel. From oil dillution to EGR warnings…..the engine is smothered in gizmos to gwt it to euro6 standard. Only geniuses like Christian can keep these things running. Love the videos as wedrive a boring x3 diesel now but no amber warning lights
Christian and very all i can say it is a good job you know what you are doing on a land rover and the best of luck with it in the past i have been robed in buying a gearbox ,thanks for the video
My dad (who was a very good engineer) used to say that there are two ways to do things. The right way and the English way. I sat here watching Christian put 5,7lt of oil in an English V6 diesel and thought to myself but my German Mercedes V6 diesel OM642 takes about 9lt of oil and you never hear the horror stories about them that you do about the Lion V6.
Now that you have all the bits bar the turbos you can let Robin weld that other block and build up a spare engine, just think of the content you'll get from that. You know you can do it!
They wouldn't have a channel if they had an OM642 vehicle . Nothing to fix .
@@stewatparkpark2933 Yep except for the oil cooler on the earlier engines. Otherwise a very boring subject.
2012, OM642 was an absolute dogs breakfast for Mercedes. Oil cooler seals fail even after they were changed to the viton rubber. The swirl flap linkage arms are plastic and the connector holes become oval through use. Timing chain stretches needing replacement. Timing chain guides are made from cheap plastic and fail early, water pump housing castings warp, DEF tank heaters fail when its below zero.
You must have a good one, mine put me off Mercedes forever.
@@davidsanderson6044 The earlier ones were better . Heavier timing chain , no DPF , no DEF .
@@davidsanderson6044 My Vito has done nearly 300,000 miles with none of those issues except for the oil cooler seals. My brother has a similar vehicle and his is also extremely reliable. I don't hold a candle for Merc, I think their customer care sucks but I can only speak as I find it.
Sound like nice guys! I always arrive unannounced even with used car dealers so they can't have prepped anything before I get there
The audio on the new camera is so much better
I do like the DJI cameras as they are my choice over GoPro
Great job 👏
I love your video's, very entertaining and I can learn something while watching! I also had the problen with the Chinese enginehoist and the engine stand. I did put pacer blocks (welded) between the castor wheels of the engine hoist so thelegs can go over the legs of the engine stand. It is not perfect, but better than it was before. I hope this tip can help you, keep up the good work, Martin from the Netherlands.
Great video guys. We call them wreckers in Australia. I think ours are friendlier, it depends on their demographics. Good luck guys.
Christen and Vera, another great video and great informative information, I have bought a second-hand engine in the UK had the same problem not running correctly.
Look forward to the next video, new camera much better.🤕
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Well Good luck!! 461k km on my 2.7 - aiming for 500k km and then rebuild
Thank you.
Oh I just saw the tab, joined! Regards David.
It’s a bit exciting a project like this.
Thanks guys for another entertaining and informative video I don’t think dodgy parts dealers are unique to Germany we have them in the uk very dishonest profession!!!
watching from Srilanka..love the content
Christian, I feel your pain. I bought a Range Rover TDv8 recently sight unseen and immediately shoved it back into an auction once I looked it over! It was dreadful! I wish I could've found you an engine here in the UK and shipped it to you
I think that >beep< gene is a requirement in the UK automotive world as well.
There’s a scale, the better they can hide the >beep< gene, the closer they are to selling in the ‘new car dealerships’, then as the scale drops, the >beeper< goes down, first through ‘used car dealer’ then eventually to ‘used parts dealer’.
great video and content, 7k for a used engine seems like a high price , looking forward to next sunday.
What a mess,but at least we have the video 😂
I haven’t read all the comments, but just in case it hasn’t already been mentioned, we carry out compression tests on these by doing a relative compression test using an oscilloscope monitoring the current taken to turn the engine. To get an actual figure you can us3 a pressure transducer in one cylinder and use the curren5 to show figures for all cylinders. The current method still uses the same 10% max difference rule. Then if you want a bigger picture of what is going on, you can also monitor exhaust, intake and crankcase pressure to see where there are any lpressure losses or irregularities
Wow, that sounds very good 👍
@@Vera_and_Christian Ivan ( Pine hollow auto diagnostics) has used and shown this method many times. He even sells his own pressure transducer attachment for oscilloscope :D He has Pico automotive scope.
Another great video, cant wait for the tear vdown and rebuild. I,m in the uk and fear that used parts dealers here are the same as you describe. Ebay sellers will have a 'Manke Me an Offer' facility but then reject every offer below their stated proce🙄. Scrap Yards as they used to be known in the UK were intimidating places to visit, a friend visited such a place near Colchester for a VW Beatle rear light unit and when he pointed out that the price the guy was asking was actually more than a new one he snatched it back, called him a Saturday morning Tiddly Winks Player and told to f*ck Off🤣
My own experience has generally been beter though. The first place I visited was in Ipswich when I was only 17, the owner was an ex boxer, baldhead, brocken nose and coveredin tatoos (it was unusual back then). He wanted £15 for the Mini engine I needed and I asked if he'd take an offer. He asked me how much and when I said £7 he called me a cheeky c..t and then asked asked me why I thought my offer would be enough and I told him thats all I had! He thought for a moment and then re-affirmed than I was a cheeky c... but that he admired my nerve took my money and then helped me load it in my car.
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Argh! What a debacle. Vera you do a great job with the camera.
From one mechanic to another, you can also perform a relative compression test without the need to remove the glow plugs. By using a lab scope and a current amp clamp or just having the leads connected to the battery. Each compression stroke changes the amp draw (or voltage drop) then you can convert that signal into BAR or PSI. The test can give you an accurate result. There's plenty of videos on YT to show you the steps on how to perform this test. I'm pretty sure you already knew this. It's more enjoyable for your viewers to see the actual work lol. Great content once again. We also have a lot of *beep* junkyard ppl here in the states as well.
And if you have the value of a true psi or BAR test on for example cylinder one, you can scale the results from the scope to the other cylinders where hard to get? That would be a great idea to compare the real values to the calculated based on the current flow of the starter motor, it would have some scientifically character.
I had a similar compression tester that also gave unfeasibly low readings (when i tried it on a vw petol engine that was in reasonable health). I reached the conclusion that because the schrader valve was located at the gauge end of the 'plumbing', the rubber hoses not only effectively increased the combusion chamber volume, but also flexed slightly under pressure.
I consigned it to the 'what was I thinking' shelf, and bought a 'Laser Tools #2516', which has the valve at the sparkplug end of the hose, and which has (I suspect) a schrader valve core of the correct specification, rather than a standard tyre valve.
10:35 Vera's favorite word, again
Scarp, sorry recycling centres, have a specific a'hole test. It's how they are able to ensure continuity of 💩service. As a youth I spent many hours keeping my cars going via scrap yards and the people running them were defiantly of a type!
Definitely not defiantly. Just saying. Cheers 👍🏻🙏🦘
Different country, but some businesses just are monkey businesses. Here also "environment" "protecting" people make running earnest scrapyard very complicated - so it also likely selects special kind of people out.
DJ i action 4 great upgrade!
Hi mate I understand how you feel I seen this so many times over the years I really hope
the engine is ok, take my advice just carm take a deep breath if anyone can sort it out can take care ❤👍 Barry
Your Son could always make a very powerful crossbow for you !
Crazy to see an engine from Ripon North Yorkshire. Literally where I’m from. I’m going to Paderborn this month and can’t wait to floor it on the Auto Bahn
Camera very good!
Content great also! :)
Guten Tag. Vielen Dank fur dièses Vidéo. Prima. Hochachtungsvoll
5:40 It's not different in other countries. But that often goes for car mechanics also. At least the smaller behind-the-corner services. I'm lucky I finally found a OK place that I'm fairly happy. Still having trust issues towards all mechanics. "Do I really need to replace that part (yet)? And did it really take 4 hours to fix?"
Hi christian and vera.even if you put up content of sweeping the floor of your garage it would be still entertaining😊 this discovery 4 will be the best on the road.looking forward to the fitment of the engine😊😊😊
Dang! I wish you guys could've purchased a wrecked Disco and pulled the engine. I'm stressing out for you guys.
Superb content, why are all your videos so dammed interesting (and funny)??
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Great video as always, as for ever getting your money back you’ve more chance of finding a landrover without a problem
You guys can do any video about anything, and we will love it. You Vera, and You Christian the real reason we all love what you guys doing. / just one idea ; how about your son working with iron ? I would be love to see. / God Bless You guys.
Its a Holiday here in the UK today! We do things like check our wormeries, make sure the car has not been stolen, kick litter out the way when walking the dog, read a newspaper designed for an 8 year old , drink lots of cheap fizzy alcoholic drinks, eat low value food and wash our rusty old cars with love!! ❤
@@simonmusgrovewethey Hi Simon this is merely a comical sketch, not ment to be offensive, but a fictional perspective of what a lifestyle might look like from Europe! Tally Ho
@@simonmusgrovewethey No worries Simon!
Good video 🎉
Absolutely correct Christian it's the same in the UK, second hand car part dealers from my experience know very little if anything at all about engines or transmissions they are just in it to make an easy buck
Good Sunday to yeah 👍 tank yeah for making video buying another motor for a range Rover is not easy❤
When I got a used engine for my broken D2 (gas) I did the compression test cold and warm as well as "wet" (added a few drops of oil into the cylinder). From the differences in pressure readings of the same cylinder you can draw some conclusions. Luckily my used engine was OK.
Love the use of “debacle”. I know the word and its usage. Examples ..brexit, migrant processes, uk economy. Never heard it used in connection with second hand engines. Good luck with the strip down.
I've bought many used parts online, and i've seen Wreckers break down engines with side cutters on hoses and wiring and lever against sealing surfaces, they don't give a crap. I'd be interested to see how it's done in Japan, they have a reputation for giving a crap. Not too many Land Rovers there though!
Having the oil cooler at the bottom of the Vee was a brilliant idea like having a starter in the Vee burred under the manifold. Great for passing emissions and fast warm ups, bad for oil longevity.