Trail Bike Vs. Enduro Bike | Is More Suspension Travel Better?

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • Trail bikes and enduro bikes each offer the chance for thrills, spills and covering terrain fast. But what is the difference between them and which is best for you?
    In this video, we explore the features of a Cotic FlareMax trail bike and an Intense Tracer 29 enduro bike and ride them back to back on the same tracks to see what each is good - and not so good - at.
    We examine how much travel they have, how much they weigh and answer the important question: are YOU over-biked?
    Which bike is your favourite? Let us know in the comments 👇
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:17 How To Tell The Difference
    01:17 Suspension
    02:14 Wheel Size
    02:50 Geometry
    03:47 Weight
    04:44 Wheels And Tyres
    05:32 Climbing
    06:02 Riding The Enduro Bike
    08:31 Riding The Trail Bike
    10:37 Which Is Best?
    11:38 Outro
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  • @bikeradar
    @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci +5

    Do you prefer a trail bike or an enduro bike?

    • @cunning-stunt
      @cunning-stunt Před 3 měsíci +3

      29" Hardtail with 150mm fork.
      You really don't need rear suspension, use your knees!

    • @NotTheRealTradieTom
      @NotTheRealTradieTom Před 3 měsíci +5

      Im a park rat, 27s on 180 😅

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Phwoar my knees don't fancy that 😅 Fair play to you!
      ~ Will

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yes Tom, sounds like a beast for the bike park. Enjoy your laps!
      ~ Will

    • @lukasvrana6388
      @lukasvrana6388 Před 2 měsíci +1

      DH :D (for bikeparks) and ebike enduro

  • @WhaJMc
    @WhaJMc Před 3 měsíci +16

    I ride a XC bike with 120mm travel front and rear. It's light, climbs well and handles all the terrain that I'm prepared to ride.

  • @superawesomefuntimego
    @superawesomefuntimego Před 3 měsíci +10

    The answer here is to have both. 😁 I absolutely love my Enduro rig for 85% of the riding I do, but I do sometimes like to ride flatter and less demanding terrain, where it can still absolutely have a good time, but a shorter travel and more responsive trail bike is a better tool for that job. On those trails, I liken the Enduro to using a mallet to hammer small finish nails. Sure it can do it, but is a bit cumbersome and takes more effort. I actually just ordered a hardtail just for those 15% of trails, to hopefully unlock a different level of fun.

  • @zacharypump5910
    @zacharypump5910 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Translation, anyone who actually needs the information in this video should get a trail bike :-)

  • @thecount1001
    @thecount1001 Před 3 měsíci +4

    i used to have both. love short travel fully's, but as i age and feel the creaks in the joints more, the enduro bike is just more comfortable for the fun stuff and the bikes climb so good these days, it's not as much of a trade off as it used to be. more suspension is also more forgiving, no matter the speed you're going.

  • @benjy288
    @benjy288 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I went from a 150 rear 160 front enduro bike to a 120 rear 130 front trail bike, and I have much more fun on the short travel trail bike, even in bike parks, in fact I'll never go back to a big travel bike again.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing Benjy! I love a trail bike!
      ~ Will

  • @joshuaallswang8016
    @joshuaallswang8016 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I would pick a trail bike every time. A Enduro bike would be overkill in most situations.

    • @deanemberley2333
      @deanemberley2333 Před 3 měsíci

      What’s most situations? Pretty general statement with no context.

  • @Bonky-wonky
    @Bonky-wonky Před 3 měsíci +6

    Being underbiked is a ton of fun and makes for good skills training. Being overbiked is just bland.
    EDIT: when you already feel comfortable on the trail riding your appropriate bike.

    • @Vokunos
      @Vokunos Před 3 měsíci +2

      might be for you, but i am an huge puss when it comes to mountainbiking, i just think its scary af. you could put me on the most expensive downhill bike and i still would be shivering down an blue trail lmao...

    • @Bonky-wonky
      @Bonky-wonky Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Vokunos if you’re not comfortable, being overbiked is a nice way to gain confidence, then bring the smaller bike next time. My gf was very scared of a certain descent on the loop she usually rides on her hardtail. After doing it on the 170mm enduro bike she learned it’s not that difficult and now rides it every time on the hardtail.

  • @shafiqjan1474
    @shafiqjan1474 Před 3 měsíci +2

    150 and 153 rear travel on my 2 favorite bikes is the sweet spot for me. I go for an extra inch just in case and it has come to be helpful... 👍🏼

  • @abeautifulview
    @abeautifulview Před 3 měsíci +20

    The amount of people you see riding 160mm+ enduro E bikes, with a full face and body armour on an 'XC loop' in the Peak District is hilarious. I suppose what is extreme to one person is a cross country ride to another.

    • @Vokunos
      @Vokunos Před 3 měsíci +1

      where i am living (germany) many everyday people use bycicles wich is awsome in my opionion even if most of them are e bikes. but the ammount of people that are sitting on very expensive bikes you could ride in enduro races only to do little summer road rides with your little kids, most of the time not even touching gravel is absolutely hillarious lol. its like using an race horse in a petting zoo.

    • @law844
      @law844 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Looks odd but some people
      Just want one bike and they would rather have to much. At least they are out enjoying themselves.

    • @jonntischnabel
      @jonntischnabel Před 20 dny

      If that's what people find "hilarious" then comedy has deteriorated more than I thought. When you see someone on a 160mm travel bike, you don't know where they are headed, or where they've just been. They might be on tarmac, but only 3 minutes away from some big sends. I'd prefer to be overbiked than underbiked.

  • @miindthegaap
    @miindthegaap Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is the best demonstration of the differences between the two I’ve seen. Trail bike for me I’m rarely on the gnarly stuff.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Mind! Appreciate your comment!
      ~ Will

  • @ZRMTB
    @ZRMTB Před 3 měsíci +3

    Ride whatever you want.

  • @gainknowledgeandinsight
    @gainknowledgeandinsight Před 23 dny +1

    Yeah! Just picked up a trek slash 7 (gen) 5 LAVA for 2699.0 - huge discount - direct on webpage. Cant wait to ride it. I also have the 9.8 XT top fuel - haven’t ridden it yet, either . 😝 I have a nonbranded from China that I’ve been using for the last 4 years and love it - it was the beast that taught me this amazing hobby - it was time to upgrade. I’ll use both of my new bikes (keeping the old too) - on different trails. Woot woot. Great video!!

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 21 dnem

      Awesome stuff, I loved my Slash. You've got a serious stable there with a Fuel as well! A bike for every occasion. Enjoy the riding!
      Thanks so much, really appreciate the feedback!
      ~ Will

  • @petersilie2432
    @petersilie2432 Před 3 měsíci +4

    It became clearer to me why I feel like my massive 180mm mullet Enduro feels like the perfekt do-it-all bike to me. We have almost no smooth parts on any of our trails. And lots of real rough technical climbs to match. A Trailbike just wouldn't be as much fun in our mountains.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Sounds like you've found the ideal setup for you Peter, thanks for sharing!
      ~ Will

  • @CCW230
    @CCW230 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm riding a LT trailbike (Occam LT) with heavier tires. Really like that for a lot of riding. Usually looking for slow riding uphill and faster/steeper downhill. I'm not super skilled or fast though, probably mediocre at best.
    For XC kind of rides I'll take my 120mm fully. Which is also fun on less technical, but longer trail rides. If conditions require I'll just grab the trailbikes frontwheel with burly tire. Makes the 120mm XC bike awesome in handeling, steering and braking on steeper and wetter stuff.

  • @Vokunos
    @Vokunos Před 3 měsíci +2

    *me looking at my rockrider st540v2 budget hardtail* "am i overbiked ?" well actually i am because i am a huge puss and mainly ride road and gravel because of that lmao. i want to get started with "actual" mountainbiking. i am going to the skatepark soon (it has some little dirt jumps too) to try to get over the fear of my wheels leaving the ground and steeper sections. but i dont think i am ever going beyond cross country levels of "gnarly" not because i dont think i am able to conquer my fears one day, but because i am more of an "long epic rides" "climbs" and "huge adventures" guy and not so much of an "adrenaline Downhiller" "big jump" "trickster" guy.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Před 3 měsíci +3

    total excellent - see you later~

  • @GregAspenson
    @GregAspenson Před 3 měsíci +2

    I feel good on my 130mm hardtail with 67.5 head tube angle. My trails are mostly all XC with long climbs and very little steep sections.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci

      Good stuff! Sounds like you've found the ideal bike for you!
      ~ Will

  • @usernamefromhell
    @usernamefromhell Před 3 měsíci +2

    140mm lightweight trail bike is where it's at. (specially lighter tires and wheels)

  • @Jpq5177
    @Jpq5177 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The newest enduro bikes 29/29 pedals really well and forks with 38 chassis they just save yours hands in longer DH

  • @twiceforlucktm9334
    @twiceforlucktm9334 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Where are these trails?

  • @michaelgoodwin593
    @michaelgoodwin593 Před 3 měsíci +4

    If i wanna ride 180mm 29er full face body armour on my local xc runs then i bloody well will

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci

      Right on Michael! You do you!
      ~ Will

  • @darrinkulyk9560
    @darrinkulyk9560 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Nope I Live And Ride Vancouver/ Whistler Have 2 CF Bikes 170/160 Enduro 200/200 DH Both Fully Coiled

  • @bencooper7944
    @bencooper7944 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Damn straight I am and happy that I am.

  • @WerdnaLiten
    @WerdnaLiten Před 3 měsíci +5

    Neither - a XC bike with 120mm of suspension.......

  • @benjy288
    @benjy288 Před 3 měsíci +3

    32 pounds for an enduro bike? you would be hard pressed to find a modern enduro bike that only weighs 32 pounds, unless you're spending more on it than you would on a brand new motorbike, a lot of modern bikes are getting porky, for example a reasonably high end trek slash 9.8 gen 6 weighs about 35 pounds with pedals.

  • @casestudymtb
    @casestudymtb Před 3 měsíci +1

    I hate this question, the implication that travel is the only change between categories is super unhelpful to beginner riders trying to make informed decisions on a bike purchase. Geo always trumps travel, and there are a ton of bikes that prove this, something like the occam for example, still great on pedally single track, has lots of travel, but can get in over its head pretty easy (to use the last gen bikes as am example). Where as the universally loved ibis ripmo af is trash on xc trail, too heavy, too long, but a solid all mountain option that can even push into the bike park a bit.

  • @MoriTouge
    @MoriTouge Před 3 měsíci +2

    It's easiest to buy travel than guts and tech.

  • @phxnezze
    @phxnezze Před 3 měsíci +1

    Both

  • @natemekis3959
    @natemekis3959 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I’m over biked

  • @George_9019
    @George_9019 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How much travel (front & rear) does that trail bike have in your test drive video?

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 3 měsíci

      Hi Geo, it's a Cotic RocketMax and it has 125mm rear travel!

    • @George_9019
      @George_9019 Před 3 měsíci

      @@bikeradar what about front?

    • @lionelthompson8008
      @lionelthompson8008 Před 3 měsíci

      You’ve got your bikes and travel mixed up. Rocketmax is Cotic enduro bike with 160mm rear travel

  • @brianhunt914
    @brianhunt914 Před 3 měsíci

    Wrong instantly..my brand new trail bike is 650b... and gone trail from enduro I prefer longer day pedàlling and my pivot is just an amazingly capable machine.

  • @awfully.average
    @awfully.average Před 3 měsíci +1

    i really only care that i am biked

  • @iffy_too4289
    @iffy_too4289 Před 3 měsíci

    WTF? SID is now a trail bike fork? Rockshox has completely lost their way.

    • @jasperhekkelman2071
      @jasperhekkelman2071 Před 3 měsíci

      It is just getting more capable. Still an XC fork, but it can easily handle trail use or even light Enduro.

  • @emanuellyonsdelvalle9844
    @emanuellyonsdelvalle9844 Před měsícem

    The trail bike tested has no space for a water bottle.

  • @jorgemonegal4994
    @jorgemonegal4994 Před 3 měsíci

    In conclusion: buy 2 bikes

  • @johnpashos1257
    @johnpashos1257 Před 3 měsíci +1

    THIS IS ISSUED 1000 TIMES. MAKE SOMETHING NEW AND RESPECT THE MENTALITY OF YOUR VEWERS

  • @fuckinellitsraymo
    @fuckinellitsraymo Před 3 měsíci +1

    No, but you are over tached and your arm movements are over exaggerated