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  • First, we built the most stupid mixed wheel bike ever! Then we wondered if we could switch it around so that the front wheel was tiny and create the ultimate reverse-mixed wheel bike - now it's time for the last in this trio. Blake Samson presents the world's smallest wheeled MTB!
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Komentáře • 202

  • @augmented2nd666
    @augmented2nd666 Před 6 měsíci +7

    GMBN needs to demo the We The People Swampmaster, Full Suspension BMX
    Ultimate test, is Wheel size more important than frame suspension for rough terrain.
    29er hardtail vs 20" full suspension.

  • @JamesMkII
    @JamesMkII Před 6 měsíci +9

    Put 29” wheels back on and just go as narrow as you can with the tyres instead, I reckon some 35mm gravel tyres or 28mm road tyres would do the trick 😀

  • @gregallen9643
    @gregallen9643 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Absolutely hilarious!!! Keep that kind of stuff coming!

  • @Mitsunil
    @Mitsunil Před 6 měsíci +1

    Its always just unbelievable fun watching blake doing cool stupid stuff

  • @grigoryrechistov3040
    @grigoryrechistov3040 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Love the Manitou fork!

  • @fixienick
    @fixienick Před 6 měsíci +1

    A couple more psi in the IRT would sort out the diving when you're running smaller wheels - love the content!

  • @ANTheWhizkid
    @ANTheWhizkid Před 6 měsíci +4

    I can remember literally all pro riders saying “I’d always stick to 27’s because their just more fun and maneuverable but if 29’s help me to win a race, I’m all in. I’m curious how they would reflect their comments today.

  • @stefanthegerman3575
    @stefanthegerman3575 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I have a old cannondale super v with 20 inch wheels. Its so much fun in the city and looks amazing😃

  • @francisdee9955
    @francisdee9955 Před 6 měsíci +2

    thats the sam pilgrim spirit🥳😁🤟🏻

  • @LouisCollison
    @LouisCollison Před 6 měsíci +10

    26” isn’t small, it’s average. 😔

  • @NICK_NIAVIS
    @NICK_NIAVIS Před 6 měsíci +4

    why dont you guys try 24 inch wheels with the halo 24x3.0 tyre?

  • @johngreason9964
    @johngreason9964 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Test Idea:
    Full suspension BMX with gears
    Vs.
    Full suspension 29er MTB.
    This will shake things up.

  • @tibiolah
    @tibiolah Před 6 měsíci +3

    I would really like to see you ride a bike that was designed for 20 or 24 inch wheels. I bet it would feel a lot different . And if you cannot find one, you could build it 😂

  • @rengamz
    @rengamz Před 6 měsíci +5

    You always amazed me Blake ... I wish i've got half of your skills 😁😁

  • @myrants5836
    @myrants5836 Před 6 měsíci +92

    What you really need to do is put 26" wheels on a modern bike with update geo. I believe this will prove it was a mistake for the industry to get rid of that wheel size.

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 Před 6 měsíci +7

      There's only so far you can go with geo on 26ers before the BB gets really close to the floor, unless you use really thick tyres. They should offer modern bikes in 26 or mini-mullet though, for funsies.

    • @myrants5836
      @myrants5836 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@kingflynxi9420 I really missed 26" wheels when the industry got rid of them. My interest in mountain biking declined massively after that. They should have left the choice there for us.

    • @lukemtb6800
      @lukemtb6800 Před 6 měsíci +20

      Stop crying Because your riding an old bike 😂

    • @meesty4043
      @meesty4043 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@kingflynxi9420 the nicolai g18 hammer comes with a 26 inch rear wheel

    • @better.better
      @better.better Před 6 měsíci +4

      you can still get 26 and put it on yourself, nothing stopping you, you just have to be aware like the other guy said that it screws with the bb height

  • @billiewright3577
    @billiewright3577 Před 6 měsíci

    It’s always fun watching your vids.

  • @SkiSurfBike
    @SkiSurfBike Před 6 měsíci +1

    Blake, how about building a hardtail frame with proper modern slack and long geometry for 24"!?

  • @eduardocamargopaez9444
    @eduardocamargopaez9444 Před 5 měsíci +1

    you can do a test of thin vs wide wheels for enduro mtb

  • @andrewsphone84
    @andrewsphone84 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I ride a 29er normally and it has been great but i just revived an old 26 dual sus from the mid oughts and ill tell you while its definitely too small for any distance riding its much more nimble and i had way less hesitation launching it on jumps.

  • @dannnyw111
    @dannnyw111 Před 6 měsíci

    that was hilarious ! keep it up

  • @alexanderdreyig6834
    @alexanderdreyig6834 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The 27,5 bashing gets really annoying. If all you want is to keep the handlebar straight und roll over stuff, 29 is great. If you are a playfull rider with trial-skills 29 just sucks.

  • @C7pherr
    @C7pherr Před 6 měsíci

    Love to see you experiment with brakediscs and see if you can set something on fire 🔥

  • @amberwellbourn192
    @amberwellbourn192 Před 6 měsíci

    😂 Blake your content always brings the laughs

  • @ultimatemonkey
    @ultimatemonkey Před 6 měsíci +2

    Funny how history repeats itself ... I along with many others have been riding 24" wheels since like 2002.. I own 30 downhill and freeride type bikes, all 24 and 26" wheels. I've also got high BB full suspension that I run 20" wheels with 20x4 fatbike tires on 😅

  • @hampadyakertikyoski
    @hampadyakertikyoski Před 6 měsíci

    Blake, you are craaazy! 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How about a GCN colab. Blake races Manon. Manon using her gravel bike to race on Blue trails. Doing a set number of laps. Blake on an enduro bike riding up a fire road or suitable trail. Then down a Black run for a set number of laps. The laps don't need to the the same number. Just start and finish in the place. Maybe start with the downhill section first.

  • @canuckchuck8836
    @canuckchuck8836 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How about a recumbent on a flow line/pump track? I think jumps would be too dangerous but...

  • @paulheitmanek1804
    @paulheitmanek1804 Před 6 měsíci

    The videos are great :D i like your happines

  • @Picplosions
    @Picplosions Před 4 měsíci

    My little one loved watching that haha.

  • @ChampionGaming
    @ChampionGaming Před 6 měsíci

    The mech being so low gives me shivers :D

  • @richsmith6453
    @richsmith6453 Před 6 měsíci

    Something I'd like to see, high pivot Vs crank freewheel

  • @SURFMTB
    @SURFMTB Před 6 měsíci +4

    Great vid, I would love to see a 12 speed cassette on the front and single on the back.

  • @ridzwaniceminuz9571
    @ridzwaniceminuz9571 Před 6 měsíci

    I had an old frame lying around, an Azonic Revenge and enough spare parts to put a bike together. instead of slapping on 26" wheels i put on 20" wheels instead. its a hell lot of fun!

  • @timfreeman2603
    @timfreeman2603 Před 6 měsíci

    Should’ve gone for Zee 10sp derailleur. Super short cage suits 20” wheel

  • @pantkowski
    @pantkowski Před 6 měsíci +1

    what crank is this? love it :)

  • @nyreppin1
    @nyreppin1 Před 6 měsíci

    If there was a market for mini velo MTB's, that 24 inch version would be it.

  • @FirestormAA
    @FirestormAA Před 6 měsíci

    Blake is super funny.... lol

  • @Nihilist13
    @Nihilist13 Před 6 měsíci

    Crazy funny!

  • @miindthegaap
    @miindthegaap Před 6 měsíci

    On the 20inch the derailleur was basically a third wheel.

  • @Justkeepshredding
    @Justkeepshredding Před 6 měsíci +1

    Get the 36 inch wheel bike and a 20 inch and do sumfin crazy!

  • @craigbest8644
    @craigbest8644 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm gonna ride 27.5 until I can no longer get a bike with them

  • @floydblandston108
    @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci

    24x3.0 on the back of an old 26" dh bike is a fun way to recycle them for goofing around.

  • @becausezachvirus
    @becausezachvirus Před 6 měsíci

    I want to see a mullet update video using the 36er

  • @jamesdavidson8624
    @jamesdavidson8624 Před 6 měsíci

    Bring back the crab. Would love to see it get painted with “Dip Your Car” Dip Armor!

  • @telepopepic
    @telepopepic Před 6 měsíci +3

    So fun, brilliant, but how about a dedicated 24” build. I race a 24” front and rear bike back in the day; late 80s. It had a higher BB in order to prevent catching pedals.
    Back then mountain bike races look wicked different and the grandads of the sport were just trying everything. Again, brilliant fun. Thanks Blake!

  • @eggreedgious5194
    @eggreedgious5194 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My man actually compared a mountain bike to a Miata 😂. Fortunately I have both so I'll let you know.

  • @Cous1nJack
    @Cous1nJack Před 6 měsíci

    It needs a massive chainring like a Brompton to balance the small wheel which is effectively a third gear. It will max out, you need to measure acceleration over a short distance.

  • @jockardl
    @jockardl Před 6 měsíci

    I would love to know how it felt going back to the 29ers

  • @MTBbastard
    @MTBbastard Před 5 měsíci

    Next thing to do: make a #QUAD. Four wheels + four separate air suspension points. 🤘And the best part is… Blake has to weld something. Which is in the first place pretty cool.
    Ps: I sometimes ask myself… what does Blake love more? Welding or biking? 🤔

  • @seanfenick9375
    @seanfenick9375 Před 6 měsíci

    Can you imagine that you’re riding down a trail and then see Blake freaking Sampson!!!! On 20 inch tires. I think that it’s fair to say that he was riding a tricycle with the derailleur on the ground

  • @better.better
    @better.better Před 6 měsíci

    The phrase you are looking for at the start is "baseline" -you're going to set a baseline speed that you're going to compare the other wheel-size too

  • @ChrisJohnson-ld3wq
    @ChrisJohnson-ld3wq Před 6 měsíci

    XS frame size with 24" or 20" wheels.. bring the BMX feel to the bike park..

  • @1edkihm
    @1edkihm Před 6 měsíci

    So the smaller wheels are exactly the same but different!

  • @nukedathlonman
    @nukedathlonman Před 6 měsíci +3

    Cool! Strange question, but would a 26er frame have given you a little more ground clearance for the cranks?

    • @floydblandston108
      @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci +1

      BB height isn't inherent to wheel size.

    • @nukedathlonman
      @nukedathlonman Před 6 měsíci

      @@floydblandston108 Wasn't sure - never measured. But I was asking since my 26er has larger 175mm cranks - the only thought process being maybe they lowered BB height on the 27ers and 29ers along with all the other geometry changes.

    • @floydblandston108
      @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@nukedathlonman- yes, usually bb height is set at a constant relationship to ground level regardless of wheel size.

    • @nukedathlonman
      @nukedathlonman Před 6 měsíci

      @@floydblandston108 Okay, so then BB height stayed constant relative to ground - therefore ground clearance would be the same regardless of frame used.

    • @floydblandston108
      @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@nukedathlonman - Generally correct. Some frames and manufacturers differ though, for instance Specialized has always liked a relatively low bb height.

  • @sherizaahd
    @sherizaahd Před 6 měsíci

    Why didn't you do this sketchy thing with both wheels? because that's crazy!

  • @tims_builds
    @tims_builds Před 6 měsíci +2

    Folding bike MTB! Lol, could be a disaster, or really stupid fun.

  • @gmivisualsjason3729
    @gmivisualsjason3729 Před 6 měsíci

    Very entertaining

  • @stevenreyes3680
    @stevenreyes3680 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What I want to do eventually is put a 27.5 fork and wheel on my new to me 2013 NOS 26” GT Zaskar with a 26” tear. It’s currently a 26 X 24.

    • @stinkyfinn6977
      @stinkyfinn6977 Před 6 měsíci

      You may be able to squeeze a 27.5 in the 26 forks depending what they are, if they suntour 26 probly not unless you use a skiny tyre but

    • @floydblandston108
      @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It's doable- 20mm change in axle to crown changes fork angle by 1 degree, and increases trail by log. Watch out for bb height, some frames can lift the bb above the rear axle with much change at the front, which is very bad in almost every way. Specialized usually uses a lot of bb drop, making their old bikes good candidates for a conversion, and many Fox forks could handle 27.5 in the smaller 2.0-2.25 sizes.

    • @stinkyfinn6977
      @stinkyfinn6977 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@floydblandston108 solid advice

  • @GRAAmusic
    @GRAAmusic Před 6 měsíci

    I want one! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @christopherdowns2835
    @christopherdowns2835 Před 6 měsíci

    What jacket is Blake wearing in this video, seen them in a few now

  • @fegasegiawan3440
    @fegasegiawan3440 Před 6 měsíci

    Legend

  • @SURFMTB
    @SURFMTB Před 6 měsíci

    Try with two 20 inch wheels in line on the back with a 29 on the front. Maximum grip, get your welder out😂

  • @ze_pilot
    @ze_pilot Před 6 měsíci

    You done a front wheel drive bike yet?

  • @damir330004
    @damir330004 Před 6 měsíci

    Blake, 26 forever 😉
    Also 3x forever 😜
    Trek ex fuel 8 2012 😎
    Al least until will be parst🤣

  • @Satorikn
    @Satorikn Před 6 měsíci

    CUP O' TEA!

  • @duroxkilo
    @duroxkilo Před 6 měsíci +1

    the number of 'serious' comments coming up w/ 'better' wheels' size combinations...
    same users would comment on 'perpetual motion vids' w/ ideas on how to improve the designs :)

  • @7dayplumbingservices195
    @7dayplumbingservices195 Před 5 měsíci

    Use different crank size ! Will you be faster uphill with smaller crank?

  • @colinravenscroft7780
    @colinravenscroft7780 Před 6 měsíci

    XC bike with a DH fork, DH bike with 100mm of travel F/R

  • @GRAAmusic
    @GRAAmusic Před 6 měsíci

    Next a cub with a adult fork

  • @kailashblades
    @kailashblades Před 6 měsíci +3

    I think a lot of the issues you're running into aren't inherent to the wheel size but are more about trying to adapt a bike that wasn't designed for them.
    -An ATS/schlumpf speed (or high speed) drive would help you gear up nicely without needing a massive chainring. It would give you an SSmtb gear and a granny gear. Alternatively you could use a mountaindrive for an ssmtb to put the reduction gear as the granny gear. alternatively an internal hub would avoid derailleur clearance issues.
    -At 20" of wheel size a lot of bikes have BB rise rather than bb drop which would make everything a lot more steady and help clearance issues.
    -While there aren't many proper 20" MTB's out there there are a lot of ATB type bikes with 20 inch wheels. Bike Friday All Packa, Burro bikes, itty bitty kyoot. Custom offerings from falconer (made for isao) and schon (made for the maker). Historical examples like the VVA topanga. General feedback says that a 2.8 or 3" tyre helps a lot with rollover, square edged impacts and general grip to overcome the short contact patch. There's a full squish BMX called the swampmaster also but the geo is very much bmx and not mtb.
    I think the concept is super interesting and a lot of people seem to vibe with it! Maybe you could weld up a frame (or hook up with a friend of the channel) that works in some modern geo concepts and see how much capability you can wring out of the concept.

    • @Gravel-Cult
      @Gravel-Cult Před 5 měsíci

      This is why Blake needs to ride the 20 inch wheel Brompton from over on the GCN Tech channel. He is going to have more bottom bracket clearance.

    • @kailashblades
      @kailashblades Před 5 měsíci

      @@Gravel-Cult that will definitely help- at the same time though the off road brompton suffers in a lot of of othere ways by still having brompton geometry, lack of suspension, narrow bars, poor chainring/redailleur clearance. These aren't inherent to the 20" platform

    • @Gravel-Cult
      @Gravel-Cult Před 5 měsíci

      @@kailashblades One of my bikes is a 20 inch wheel folding bike adapted for gravel riding. It is less about creating the perfect bike and more the challenge of being under biked and conquering the terrain. I am more of a "party at the back" guy at gravel events.
      The 20 inch wheels on the Brompton should raise the bottom bracket. It will allow for more crank arm clearance which seemed to be issue in looking at the way Blakes was pedalling
      The Brompton uses an internal hub so no derailleur clearance issues with the ground if the retention pulley is adjusted right.
      I am not saying it is the ideal bike just a fun ride and Blake being such a legend at riding free style could lead to some stunning footage.

  • @Chops00
    @Chops00 Před 6 měsíci

    20” is the future

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius Před 6 měsíci +1

    Well it's not far from a dirt bmx with a mtb geo.
    Oh no... Bmxduro here we come 😅

  • @John3-16Clothing
    @John3-16Clothing Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ride a penny farnworth on MTB Trails

  • @NeuroticNexus
    @NeuroticNexus Před 5 měsíci

    Mentioning 29" as the better "rollover" wheels, when is it time for 30" / 31" , telling us it's the only way to go? Looking at S Frames with 29" wheels I am reminded of steampunk somehow 😂

  • @mountaincruiser817
    @mountaincruiser817 Před 6 měsíci

    Try the WeThePeople Swampmaster next! A full sus bmx bike, got your name written all over. 😅

  • @Yernaritsbarry
    @Yernaritsbarry Před 6 měsíci

    Should team up with fingers crossed bmx and test ride there full suspension bmx bike

  • @raheslop
    @raheslop Před 6 měsíci

    I think I’ve seen some clues as to what’s coming next but didn’t think it was finished, if it’s what I think it is you’ll like it a lot best option for the FoD, ps mine are 42 & 118 respectively, what’s your number?

  • @Hipp0campus_1
    @Hipp0campus_1 Před 6 měsíci

    thats how I think I look like on my 27,5" setup.

  • @matthewbourne659
    @matthewbourne659 Před 6 měsíci

    You wont be getting anymore nukeproof bikes Blake as they have gonebust with chain reaction and wiggle

  • @TJSSheppard
    @TJSSheppard Před 6 měsíci

    1200mm bars!

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 Před 6 měsíci

    I took me until September 2021 #to go for a 29er. I always saw the as pointless. Usually calling a hybrid with fat tyres and suspension or a gravel bike with flat bars, fat tyres and suspension. I've mainly 26" wheel bikes. But I have had one 27.5" bike. I won't be going back to 26" and it's highly unlikely I'll go back to 27.5" as well.

  • @user-yc6wx4sn5n
    @user-yc6wx4sn5n Před 6 měsíci

    Microshift makes super short derailers for 20in and less

  • @richardbarton7
    @richardbarton7 Před 6 měsíci

    24 wheels in short travel full sus, down a nice jumpline.

  • @EASTCOASTNATURE
    @EASTCOASTNATURE Před 4 měsíci

    its like a bmx with suspension

  • @floydblandston108
    @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci

    Blake thinks to himself; "Hmmm....how can I get GMBN to pay for a new wheelset for my DJ?"

  • @88davidw
    @88davidw Před 6 měsíci

    B-LAKE ❤

  • @BrokeCollectibles
    @BrokeCollectibles Před 6 měsíci

    There are people that actually build downhill 20” bmx bikes with mani forks they look of the chain

  • @JogieGlenMait16
    @JogieGlenMait16 Před 6 měsíci

    I thought this was Sam Pilgrim's channel.

  • @pain999666
    @pain999666 Před 6 měsíci

    How about something in the real world like 27.5 Larger tires vs 29 smaller tires

  • @martitoncosi2031
    @martitoncosi2031 Před 4 měsíci

    Does anyone know if i can put a 29 on a 275 nukeproof scout?
    Here in spain I can only buy the 275 :(

  • @Eric.V.
    @Eric.V. Před 6 měsíci

    Did you have the 24” front tire mounted backwards on purpose?! 😎

  • @athishmarutharaj6001
    @athishmarutharaj6001 Před 6 měsíci

    make ur old scout a mullet

  • @fulltimecasualnz
    @fulltimecasualnz Před 6 měsíci

    20 inch wheel sits as low to the ground as modern duallys 🤣

  • @kennethcampbell7263
    @kennethcampbell7263 Před 6 měsíci

    I honestly expect to see that crank touch if you go down too far with the wheel size.

  • @battistaverardi1240
    @battistaverardi1240 Před 6 měsíci

    26 inch is absolutely the best in every way! I don’t care what anyone says that 29er’s are nothing but a gimmick.

    • @x5-acousticguitarstuff.2
      @x5-acousticguitarstuff.2 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I own a 2023 mirror polished alloy 26" MONGOOSE Fireball SS Dirt Jumper.... The FORGOTTEN Wheel Size.
      I love my Bike and I would NOT change it for anything.

  • @floydblandston108
    @floydblandston108 Před 6 měsíci

    Never seen the difficulty here; 120+ years of history teaches that small means nimble steering and rugged, while large increases rollover and smooths out the ride. Off road motorcycles use proportions closer to the "69er" than the current 'mullet', but both are superior to equal sizes except in the case of extended climbing. Is that so hard?😑

  • @schalkvandermerwe3838
    @schalkvandermerwe3838 Před 6 měsíci

    Would be interesting to know: if gravity was the only accelerant, which version would be fastest down a tarred hill?
    I have $5 down on the 20s.

    • @MotoAtheist
      @MotoAtheist Před 5 měsíci

      Who cares about the difference of mountain bike wheels on smooth roads? Nobody! The difference is on the trails with roots, rocks, ruts. This is where the bigger tire is smoother and faster overall.

  • @Kelvallontan
    @Kelvallontan Před 6 měsíci

    Those tiny pedal legs look like chicken legs 😄

  • @maxthatsit2283
    @maxthatsit2283 Před 5 měsíci

    With the 20" wheels it kinda looks like a pit bike, lmao

  • @craigmanson6141
    @craigmanson6141 Před 6 měsíci

    Boris bike to bikepark wales please!