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1:09 - Warby Parker
2:40 - The Beginning of PC vs Console
3:58 - Early Nintendo Keyboard
5:22 - Learn with Pokemon Typing Adventure
8:39 - Nintendo GameCube Controller/Keyboard
10:26 - Sony PS2 Controller/Keyboard/Snack Tray
11:25 - Sega Dreamcast Keyboard
13:27 - Sega Saturn Keyboard
15:35 - PS3 & Xbox 360 Keypads
16:30 - Xbox One Keyboard/Mouse
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Fun fact: Pokemon Typing Adventure has the Bluetooth hardware on the cart itself since the DS doesn't have any
That IS a fun fact!
Yeah, I own a copy. It's also the only DS cart that has Bluetooth.
Dude, that would have been pretty cool to have with homebrew and a flash cart. I used to have a DS lite, and had the kind that went into the GBA slot, but it had a DS cart to start it, but you could hack the DS so you only needed the GBA cartridge but it would boot in DS mode(instead of GBA mode). I remember getting a homebrew Linux port running on it and connecting to wifi and using the old Links text-mode browser when I was going to college. Imagine having a Bluetooth keyboard with that lol.
@@nickc3511 what about the other copies
you own the only copy with bluetooth?
That's kinda like what they did with Pokémon BW and BW2. Since the DS didn't have infrared capabilities, they built an IR sensor right into the cart.
Back in 2015/2016 my local smash scene had a player that used the ascii gc controller and was ranked top 10 in the state
i now know where you live
@@chiefhydropolis creep
@@Matichuu note: i can't make anything of OP's location from the comment and am not going to because I just wanted to make a joke
Derek, here's a little fun fact about Typing of the Dead.
The game was so popular that after House of the Dead: Overkill was released on the Wii, Sega released a special PC version on Steam called Typing of the Dead: Overkill.
And yes, you get to type swear words in it.
NO. WHERE CAN I BUY
i fuckin' love TotD
Overkill is a spiritual successor that tries to layer on cheese like a cheap, cheesy movie. Tons and tons of cheese, but it's self-aware. It's not the same kind of accidental hilarity of the original, BUT, there is a PC version of the original typing of the dead. I'm sure you can find it from your friendly neighborhood internet pirates.
There’s even an arcade version of Typing. A full ASCII keyboard in an arcade cabinet!
You forgot to mention that this version has the Extended Cut from the PS3
Typing Overkill also bundles the original HOTD Overkill with mouse control.
Last week: Console mouses.
This week: Console keyboards.
Next week: PC controllers.
mice
@@halotroop2288 Mice applies only to the animal. In electronics, the plural is mouses.
@@metroidfan220 😂
@@metroidfan220 wait, really?
@@adis3202 I have no exclusive knowledge, just making a joke guess. Although I would love for them to cover this topic!
"Logitech PS2 Snack Tray" killed me.
Best part of the video
Same!
And now I want one!
PSA: you can plug in a generic USB keyboard to your nintendo switch to type letters to your Animal Crossing villagers. It may be old news but I am amazed.
Ooh, nice. I hate typing stuff using the controller.
You can use keyboard arrows like the D-Pad and Enter for A and Escape for B to navigate the Switch eShop
A keyboard will work with every piece of software on the Switch if it uses the on-screen keyboard prompt.
I use a wireless keyboard, so I just leave the reciever plugged in to one of the USB ports on the dock. It's surprisingly convenient.
A keyboard also works on dauntless to chat with other players without using a microphone
You could also do this with a USB keyboard way back in City Folk on the Wii. It was awesome.
14:40 That random Finnish Saturn ad makes me happy. It’s almost like people know we exist.
I used a sega saturn keyboard for years not realizing it wasn't just a sega branded keyboard I bought at a thrift shop.
Thank you for mentioning the later consoles having native keyboard and mouse support. Many people don't know about this feature.
keyboards are compatable with most games with text input now, thanks to consoles using a built in virtual keyboard that recognizes physical keyboards
if the consoles keyboard pops up, you can type!
I remember being surprised and saddened when Skyrim on PS3 didn't support keyboard and mouse
Uncle Derrick is going to go 140 WPS BLAZING FAST
Damn words per second?
Its gonna be a sight to see
Typing of the Dead needs a re-release with USB keyboard support.
If I remember correctly, there's an old SEGA PC port of Typing of the dead for Win 98. Don't know how well it works now though.
There was a PC Port of Typing of the Dead... and it works okayish in Wine on my Linux laptop... uh... not certain how much of the slowdown is from Wine, running on a Laptop with poor cooling (I've set my lap on fire a couple of times) or just the game itself...
I wonder: Does a DC emulator maybe have the functionality to use a PC keyboard for that game? That would be awesome. Same goes for possibly using nice for Lightgun games.
@@Kain652 There is a PC version that would make more sense for that. I just thought it would be fun on modern consoles with an upscale and achievements/trophies.
@@Kain652 weirdly enough I can’t find that functionality in any DC emulator
That Joey Wheeler bit had me doubled over with laughter. Haven't thought about YTAS in a while.
I fully predict that Derek will be returning to the Dreamcast Keyboard one day, if only because of the other keyboard-only games released over in Japan for the system (don't worry, the Japanese keyboard is almost exactly the same in terms of layout). Namely, there are two Neon Genesis Evangelion typing games released by Gainax itself (even though Broccoli was handling most Eva game publishing by that point), and one of them even has a fan translation, so Derek could actually play it. However, the one I'd love to see Derek cover is Hudson's Typing of the Date.
Yes, you read that right... Hudson made a dating simulator for the Dreamcast that's played exclusively with the keyboard, and obviously named it in reference to Typing of the Dead. I haven't played it, but it instantly sounds right up Derek's alley.
Only slightly related... NGE Rebuild is finally complete (?) Is it good?
Friend of mine had the gamecude keyboard controller. Thing was, that was one of the 4 controllers he owned. So if we got together to play Smash, one person would have to use it, and we all hated when our turn came up.
That's just like how somebody had to play goldeneye with the steering wheel at our house.
@@tonyschwarz9501 I didn't even know it was possible, how did it work? Like it would only strafe?
We had some knock off one that had a like a joystick on it that kinda didn't really work too great.
@@tonyschwarz9501 sounds like a great time
@@lucasvallerine1975 Had one with Y axis on the edge of the wheel. Little slider that centered itself.
“Who’s playing keyboard and mouse on the couch?!”
Yeah...what dweebs am I right? (awkwardly hiding cheap usb keyboard used for FFXIV on PS4)
keyboard gang what up!
MMOs don’t count they’re like MEANT for keyboards
People like me who have limited space and type on their lap and use trackballs so they don't need a flat surface.
I remember those days
@@StCerberusEngel Me too. I'm surprised no one has tried to push trackballs as mice for couches/recliners. They're great for that.
I bought a DC keyboard solely for Typing of the Dead. It’s the game my friends always ask to turn on when we are all drunk
Username and comment synergy.
"Bro, just talk, just chat, just use voice chat!"
What about mute people?
Yeah, a lot of people can't talk or just...won't. A lot of people who have feminine voices or non-European accents have bad experiences.
Still waiting on that Dead Rising Chop-Til-You-Drop video.
Pokemon keyboard wouldn't work with DS browser cos the Pokemon cartridge had the Bluetooth module in it which is how it worked with the keyboard
Ahh.. I was confused because I don't remember DS have bluetooth feature
Derek saying "remember Playstation Home??" like, awakened something deep within me and I just start hysterically laughing
Hey you know there's a group trying to put ps home back together again
Now that is old school
@@AzreonGaming it wont work, part of the charm was the minigame areas and other stuff that was limited edition. You cant revive that feeling of the end of the old internet era.
@@Di3mondDud3czcams.com/video/D7LQP5SDUjU/video.html
Its actually impressive what there doing
@@AzreonGaming it would be cool if it works out, but i was bummed that i lost things i paid for. But there just wont be the population, even at the end it was always a bunch of people whereever you went. Great place to be an emo teen when it was out of style. Lol
We got gotta start a gofundme just called “buying daddy darek stupid peripherals.” Who’s in
FOR SURE
I'm poor but Imma do it!
Its called Patreon 😆
I am all for that
Once I get a proper income along with a job, I'm for it!
"The Logitech-PS2 Snacktray!" Now with a 35% chance of "less" spillage for those hungee Bois. - someone at Sony
Back when local tournaments were around, there was someone playing smash ultimate with the gamecube keyboard. I now want to ask him how he got it because I had no idea they were THAT hard to get.
Even more rare are the steel battalion control decks.
I'm lucky enough to have gotten to play with one once.
I'd love to run my PC using one.
I get that "Advanced Video System" is a pretty generic name for a system, but is "Nintendo Entertainment System" really any less generic?
the NES acronym is iconic though. say NES to people who dont even play games and im sure they'll go "nintendo?"
@@mongrel_97 Only because the NES was the most successful console at the time. Had things gone differently, we might be looking at the acronym "AVS" with a similar degree of fondness.
@@Pepperham04 that's true
Nintendo is a brand, and the word Advanced is 100% more generic than a specific brand name.
But essentially " video system" is generic sounding and could be anything from a VCR to a professional video editing workstation.
@@mongrel_97 I guarantee you, no non-gamer who wasn't a child at the time has no idea what a NES is. Probably not a SNES either.
The GameCube keyboard was also useful for typing in Action Replay codes.
I still have my Ascii GameCube keyboard controller after all these years, box and all! I played a lot of PSO back then.
Lighting is actually quite nice, a bit more of that warm orange light would really bring back good ol' HVGN comfy vibes.
Nothing can ever truly replicate the look of that low-wattage incandescent lighting struggling to shine through the darkness of a family home in Anchorage, AK xD
I have a feeling that the link gates for the mega man battle network games on the gba would be right up your alley. Honestly mmbn has weird, ambitious *and* unnecessary stuff so the series in general would make a good video
Plus he gets to talk about Boktai and all THAT Punching Weight-level goodness!
ALSO it got stuff past Nintendo's censors like Yai (A recurring side character) saying something about Lan missing a chance to see her nude.
@@GatorRay man you made this comment thread go from 0 to 60 real fast. I was just talking about these periferals that let you use physical battle chips that you could buy and then use in game.
@@Drawcie Sorry. That last reply was STUPID!
When I was growing up, playing Pokemon actually did teach me quite a lot of words - specifically I remember that's where I first learned "endeavour" and "fatigue", neither of which I knew how to pronounce properly.
Nintendo of America didn't want their customers to hear the proper way to pronounce "Z".
I almost bought a DreamCast keyboard when I was a kid, even though I knew it wouldn't be of any use to me. I just was obsessed with DreamCast at the time and wanted as many of its goods as possible. Coincidentally I debated getting the Pokémon Typing game too. If I knew its keyboard is compatible with any bluetooth device and not just the DS I would have pulled the trigger for sure.
"Who's playing keyboard and mouse on the couch?"
Does remind me of the time I even had a friend connect a regular keyboard to a Nintendo Wii and it work since that console had the internet channel. Made the typing parts a lot easy to use.
I wanted "Typing of the Dead" so bad 20 years ago
That Pokémon keyboard reminds me of a iMac keyboard
"Who uses a keyboard on a couch?" People with SteamLinks, all 10 of us.
"I'm a filthy One-Genner, I suppose" is a top tier Uncle Derek quote. Incredibly on brand.
"I did not get any gold medals."
I loved Pokemon Typing Adventure on my DS, and when i realized it worked also like a normal Bluetooth keyboard i finally had my first wireless keyboard for phone and computer.
I love weird controllers, so i recently bought a steam controller, and I could hear uncle Derek voice in my head giving me the weird, ambitious
or unnecessary seal of approval
I remember using a USB keyboard just for chatting in PS2 online games. Just trying to act tough, despite really only sitting lobbies for Ratchet & Clank 3.
Also, where'd you get that lapdesk? Been meaning to get a new one for a while now.
I bought a USB keyboard for my PS2 purely to communicate in FFXI...lol
All about that SOCOM series on PS2. (Though I personally started with 3 and went back to 1 & 2.)
my favourite oddity in console games that use qwerty keyboards: "beatmania da! da! da!" for the PS2, a *typing tutor rhythm game*
Says British English vs North American English.
Me: Crying in Canadian.
Sorrey
Canadian English is the same as midwest English, you just know how to read some French words
@@stitchfinger7678 You've definitely got your regions mixed up.
@@stitchfinger7678 If by "midwest" you meant "British" then you're slightly more correct. 90% of Canada never speaks, reads, or writes a word of French outside of school.
I loved the 360 chat pad so much! I'm super nostalgic about it, remembering going to buy it and sitting on the tram on the ay home being stupidly excited.
"pendejo was killed by meliodas" god I miss when Spanish curse words where allowed in Halo multiplayer.
Great video guys! Lighting and editing are real good and very informative as always👍🏾
"who is using keyboards and mice on the couch?"
Me, sitting on the couch using my corsair lapboard to watch SSFF on my TV, which is connected to my desktop: "Me! Pick me!" 😁
Even better is to have a wireless keyboard/trackpad synced to the laptop, which is plugged into your TV via HDMI. 4 lbs of weight on my lap is just too much.
10:50 - aside from direct weapons access in those mentioned, a USB keyboard is also required in _Unreal Tournament_ if using a Dualshock and/or mouse if you wanted to engage in body language taunts and relinquish/drop a selected weapon for pick up by a team-mate or to shrink your weapons list. iirc, commands given to team-mates/bots can also be accessed via keyboard in addition to the Dualshock.
DEREK!
Nitpicking for the record: Australia uses PAL. So better say Europe and Australia if that's what you mean, or just PAL, instead of PAL and Australia
Europe, PAL, and Australia
And don’t forget SECAM
I actually saw the gamecube keyboard controller in a retro game shop for like $30 in Tupelo, MS of all places. This was about 4 years ago and I had no idea at the time how rare it was.
Just found your channel binging a bunch of these punching weight videos and man that nostalgic pso music.
Glad to see you guys are back thanks for the content! 😁😁😁
This video made me nostalgic!
Love you Derek! so glad after so many years of working your butt off? that the channel is really hitting those stats :)
Love these, keep up the great work!
The Wii and Switch had a keyboard as well, one by Logitech and the other by Hori. I remember Xenoblade X on the Wii U could also use a keyboard for online chat.
There was a keyboard for the SNES X-Band video game modem. Genesis X-Band also had one I believe.
Am I the only one who got unreasonably nostalgic hearing that Phantasy Star Online music during the GameCube keyboard section? Yes? Ok...
I still play it to this day
I had that Xbox 360 keypad. That thing was a godsend for typing in passwords for my different streaming apps like Netflix, etc. Better than going through each letter with an onscreen keypad.
Yaaaay! This video just warmed my cold heart. Thanks, Durik.
Typing of the dead was so fun! Great video!
I love this channel cause you always learn something new
2:35 HE DID THE PEOPLE'S EYEBROW!!!
Recently discovered your channel! 👍 Love what you do! Nice work! 👏
Take two steps into C&C Renegade's remaining community and I assure you you'll discover that no, trash talk is just as common and just as dumb by keyboard, it's just easier to shoot the trash-talkers midsentence.
Here in Brazil, our amazing country, we had the cartdrige Mega Net, that was basically a modem to connect in the internet, where you could e-mail, fax, or read news from Tectoy about the Mega Drive, and eventually Tectoy launched a Keyboard exclusive for use with the Mega net, and it was before the release of the X-band for Genesis, which we had here as Mega Net 2.
And we still had a partnership between Tectoy and a national Bank, Bradesco, for launching the TeleBradesco Residência, a cartdrige with a modem, where you could check your account balance and your bank statement, without need of going to the bank line, all of this by 1995.
😳🤯
Some of what you cited _does sound familiar_ .... I don't recall who in the US was telling me about your experience of having the product that pre-dated the X-band. 😑😶🤔 The technology you describe might be in a ~documentary about the X-band and its more recent ~recreation. 🤷♂️
@@That_Handle Probably was from somenone that is from Brazil, I don't know if in Europe it existed, since, as in Brazil, Mega Drive was a big hit there.
The main difference betwwen the Mega Net anda X-band, is that Mega net didn't allow multiplayer, was only for internet, the Mega Net 2 is more of a equivalent to X-band. This time in Brazil gave us a lot of crazy stuff, Tectoy was an amazing company, with a support that we never had a chance to have after dremcast end.
Sony also made a first-party USB keyboard and mouse for the PS2, which was included with their Linux for Playstation 2 kit. That kit was actually pretty cool, since it allowed people to use their Playstation 2 consoles as actual Linux computers (admittedly with low specs, but still...)
I learned how to type on Mario Teaches Typing on DOS. It was awesome
I had one of those 360 keypads that i used for MSN and all other text inputs really, it's probably my favourite addon tbh.
This is the only channel that I will watch the sponsors for, and I’ll keep it that way >;)
I really liked the editing on this one guys!
Much better video than last week
I really liked the PS3 controller keyboard. It's well built and has a nice classic Blackberry feel to the keys.
The Keypads for modern consoles like the 360 are super useful for things outside of text chat, like Browsing the online stores, entering Codes, and searching services like netflix or youtube.
Videos like this give me life
I love Typing of the Dead so much. Every once in a while I'll set up my Dreamcast just to play it. But! There is also a Typing of the Dead game on Steam for people who don't have a Dreamcast & keyboard!
Dude I rocked the chat pad for Xbox 360 way back when I was young and honestly it was versatile.
You had more grip near the bottom, and when someone sends you some hate mail, you can reply in half the time, causing a psychological advantage compared to someone having to operate a keyboard with a controller. It was glorious.
Would of still been solid if that DS keyboard would of had Typing of The Dead available for it to work with
Hey, I know for a fact that there was a keyboard for SNES and Genesis that was used for XBand. I have no idea if they were compatible with anything else, but I knew several people that owned them. I also know that XBand is playable again on private servers, so technically they aren't useless anymore.
🤔
Thx for the timestamps :)
Derek came for me directly with that keyboard couch rant and he did not miss lol
I now want every weird console accessory to be ranked wether or not how effectively you can snack on it
I've been using the pokemon keyboard as my main work keyboard for a year now, it's a camel battery- life wise and physically hasn't changed (no fading) I don't do code or intense hard typing but still ! I'm amazed at the build quality.
Atari XE console had an official keyboard, however the XE was an Atari 8-Bit computer turned into a console and played all Atari 8-bit computer games so it did need it. Many see it as the Atari 5200 done right.
I actually own the Ascii GameCube keyboard controller, and I personally use it for inputting cheats for the Action Replay, because the controller is touchy on it for some reason, and a lot of the cheats are insanely tedious to put in
Even with the anniversary, I had no idea about that Pokémon game. You may not learn many words, but for improving speed, looks great!
Great vid! :D I hate how much I love that PS3 keyboard! XD
Typing of the Dead is one of the best creative ideas from 90s
Love SSFF always
I am surprised you did not mention the Xband Keyboard.
I freaking loved playing online on my friend's SNES.
"It didn't come out in North America but it did release in PAL and Australia". Australia is PAL too...
i think its still a seperate "ecosystem" for releases though. pal in this case is just gamer shorthand for europe i think.
@@Slash0mega It might make more sense to say it released in Europe and Australia though. While sometimes games are released in one but not the other PAL refers to both of them so it isn’t the right term here.
Derek always has exactly what I had no clue I needed, but absolutely need
0:01 Ah yes, Ham Derek. My favorite!
Chatpads are also useful for logging in info for stuff like Netflix/Hulu or credit card information if you use your console for that.
I haven't been to Otakon in years but they used to have Typing of The Dead tournaments in the game room.
my local game shop had one of those gamecube ascii keyboards on the shelf for a loooong time
I remember finding out about the Famicoms keyboard, and a bunch of other cool Japanese exclusive stuff from the homeys at Famicom Dojo.
I actually used the PS3 keypad all the time for LBP2 actually, was *SUPER* useful cus it was actually programmed to like, skip going into the menu to chat, you could just *type*
Even blurred by depth of field, I recognize those Dragon Warrior GBC games in the background.
OH MY GOD WELCOME BACK BRO 💜😁🚀
There’s got to be someone out there who uses the GameCube keyboard as a regular keyboard