Utilizes multiple spells rather than spamming one, is using multiple tactics that involve far range to midrange to close range, has a melee weapon and uses it proactively even purposefully charging at you to use it, and bows at the end of the battle like the classy mage they are. Great mage indeed.
Except what you just described is a spellsword. A pure mage uses only spells where a spellsword invests other points into stuff like str, dex, or health to make them more valuable in differing situations. This guy is a spellsword, I also have a spellsword build using pretty much the exact same setups for combat. There isn't anything wrong with someone playing a pure mage, and apparently since everyone thinks they are so easy to beat and so boring, why does everyone complain about them? If it's so easy to beat them then just do it and don't complain bc someone is running a different playstyle than unga bunga strength build, bc that is also boring as shit.
How about mages play how tf they wanna play. If you can’t beat a traditional mage, then do like Kevin Durant and join the club. We’ll show you how to be great lol.
@@viatlas4835 it's fairly easy to fight a pure mage as they never invest in vigor but its just tedious to fight someone who spams carian phalanx and just runs away
It's a very nice change of pace to see someone praise a good battle/opponent. I feel like lot of content is just people bragging about being better than others but you always find some good matches and that doesn't get enough coverage
Wow. You're really the divergent thinker if you really think about it. Really bringing up a lot of good points maaaaaaan. Your post really made me think
At 1:01 the fact that he actually expected the panic roll and went for the aoe attack instead to get a wide range shows cleary that he played a lot of ds3 pvp, most new people to elden ring pvp never roll on reaction
Yeah thats the first thing I noticed, I used to main an int melee build in DS3 and a lot of the mage's tactics are textbook, makes me so excited for when I eventually get the game :)
You clearly haven't played a lot of Souls PvP then.... Honor is actually rare... It's often gank squad and ass holes that invades and attack while you are occupied with enemies
@@coryw3339 no healing via estus/crimson flask is the only one I say people follow, but it's only in case if a summon, if you get invaded tho, I say it's fair game to heal
I love the fact that he wasn't just using glitter Stone spam and was actually trying to get at medium range to use some ice spells as well as really get a full barrage from the phalanx.
Well, anyone dummby in pvp trying to spam magic arrows deserves to be slaughtered, and vice versa if your a dummby who gets hit with spammed magic arrows and doesn’t beat the glass mage, you deserve to be slaughtered by glitter pebbles lol…
That was a great battle from both sides. I particularly love how, when you both got low on health, the hectic exchange at the start of the duel gave way to a much more thought out duel of wits. With each opponent down to one good hit it turned into a test of patience and skill. It was thrilling. Hopefully we get to see more cool duels like this one in the future.
@@rhapzodyk541 Yeah, but mad respect to him for deciding to go melee instead. He knew the OP couldn't do much in terms of range, so in the end he made it an even fight by going in when they were both one hit away from dying. You really can't tell who's gonna win in that situation until someone slips up and the other goes in for the punish.
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 OP threw that fire bomb that almost took him out though. I think the recent patch improved pot scaling, but I'm not sure about throwing knives.
@@PsychicSploob in the old soulsgames i came in touch with red invaders that guided me through the map to find secrets, like false walls and item locations. The fromsoft community consists of awesome people.
Im absolutely enamored by him holding his attack at 1:01 . He didn't spam, didn't unsheath, but rather waited for an opportunity. Masterful (人 •͈ᴗ•͈)(人 •͈ᴗ•͈)🩵
Just an observation. At 1:24, the mage ran towards him. With the mage established as a melee expert too, he expected a slash but was met with a spell instead. Now the confusion and doubt now set in because he doesn't know what the mage will do. And ultimately led to his demise. Fantastic psychological battle.
I literally dont see why more mages play as a hybrid, the advantages are great, between phalanx, magic glint blade with alternate delays and stars or ruin you can seriously put alot of mid-long range pressure to force a roll which you can punish as a frame trap, too much of these mages just resort to spamming when hybrid melee/spells seems way more engaging and effective in my eyes
because this isnt real magic in most peoples eyes, the fact he had to finish the fight with an lol melee weapon is actually terrible. Just go melee...mages are supposed to be able to cast a fuck ton of spells at both long and mid/close range nearly endlessly to force tripups...and sorry to say "spam" is much more effective than what this guy is doing, this wouldnt even have been a fight with a normal mage build lmao the hammer dude woulda been wrecked in like 12 seconds.
Very good duel! Also, I am positive 125 will not be the meta when people realize the caps in this game. EDIT: My opinion has since changed, since at 150 damage is insanely high, and even at 120 its still a bit high, and you still can make powerful builds. Im doing 133. Fextra says it will let me matchmake with 120 all the way to 166, so I can get a bit more stats, and also fight with both groups, since the community is split, with many of the good players disagreeing on it. Personally I say 120 is good, despite what I said in the past, due to then I did not see all the insane rings we have, just a few of the not as crazy ones. I also think 120 should be the meta for dueling, 150 should be meta for everything else like coop, and higher level pvp, 133 if you want to be with both will work also since you can play with 120-133. Below I will list a few builds that can play with 120, some at 120, 125, and 133, all are viable, and work very well. Magic stats at 133 so it can play with both groups that works and lets you use the spell that needs 70 int, and have a lot of fp so you can magic spam, and use moonveil, and have good health, all without talismans, just use talismans and try to get better endurance and health. 50 vigor, 30 mind, 10 endurance, 18 strength, 18 dex, 70 intelligence. Add talismans for more cancer, switch int for faith if you want faith, works ok for that too. You can also lower to 60 if you don't want moon, you can get rid of some health or another stat if you don't want to be at 133 but want 120/125. My strength build template for 125 is 60 vigor, 25 endurance, 66 strength, 18 dex. Add rings to it and you can have even more carry weight if needed, more health, more stamina, more fp, or whatever since there is a talisman or armor for that. For quality I would also say 60 vigor, 25 endurance, 40 strength, 40 dex, puts you at 121, so you have some room to level something else also. For Dex I would go 60 vigor, 25 endurance, 27 strength, 55 dex, which effectively lets you use most weapons also, and lets you have a little room for 2 more levels unless going higher like to 133, which it gives 10 points. 120+5 is fine for meta, but I will go to 133 to be in between the two just for the sake of playing with both groups and having a more simple time getting builds running. If you have any questions on builds, I can throw some stats together if I see the comment, I am perfectly fine helping with that.
There a guy who did the testing with softcaps. From what he read 60 is the true soft and SL 150lv. Anything above 60 is a waste of points. I'm in endgame zone at 103 and still get 2-3 tap by bosses
60 is the health soft cap, 50 is for end str dex, 80 for faith and int, I dont know about arcane If you’re doing a quality build, you would want 60/50/50/50, this leaves you at level 166. Going above 60 is not a waste for str dex and maybe end at the moment. Edit: Soft cap is 80 for stronks and dex. Still, probably go 50 50 if you do quality, maybe.
When you were jumping in the air with no attack, you were essentially feinting and you saw him rolling into you based on the pattern you had set prior of whiffing air attacks. If you had come down and immediately attacked as soon as you hit the ground instead, you could've beat him out of his option select. Just a thought. Great duel man!
Mages have to invest into more strat to win other than just relaying on pure hit. Mages gotta learn dodges and strat to win. Once you play as a mage you can take that knowledge and combat skills into other builds
The moonveil is especially great / bullshit for that because it costs nothing to hold it there in the "charged" stance, doesn't drain stamina or anything so you could feint people all day with that.
As a player new to From Soft games (played very little lf the others and none of most) I didnt know the PvP rules, everyone I fought was using flasks so i did too, but now i dlnt if they dont I just wasnt informed 😅
How is anyone suppose to know this tho? I didn't know till I fought someone and they told me not too, which I guess is how word is getting around but its not an obvious rule so 🤷
I'm an elite tier dark souls 3 PVP player and I think this is a toxic garbage opinion. Even though I'm usually always the invader, so I have half your Estus and my health cut by 30% automatically, I still far and away prefer a dual where both parties are free to heal, it's far more dynamic and interesting, and if you can learn your opponent quickly it gives you a huge advantage. It's just much more complex and fun, and people like you trying to arbitrarily press this ridiculous no healing rule on other people is misguided and flat wrong.
i love that magic has finally had time to shine in pvp (although is still isnt super easy to use) it feels like a really fun and new type of playstyle that players are finally starting to use and i couldnt be more welcome to it!
Hybrid are hard to beat start from 1:03 you can see the mage made him fear the katana since the fear is now installed he respected the katana which leave him open to the magic spell because of panic rolls start kicking in
That's a Spellblade! and yeah the moonlight katana or whatever is also a great and fast weapon. Pretty easy to pick up as well, 10/10! Loved the fact that neither used a single health potion at the end, very honoraburu.
I love how you are giving props to a good player, who got the best of you this time - also love the respect from that player bowing to you after the defeat, acknowledging your effort in the battle as well. Can't wait for the rematch.
I adore melee spells in this game. Spells like Carian Slicer and Greatsword can rack up powerful damage or stagger. Of course, not to discount the phalanx spells. Nothing says “mage” quite like powerful set up spells.
It’s nice to be able to have strong close range magic like that after putting 75% of my points into INT, nothing worse than getting instantly deleted close range with no way to defend
Slicer is so nice. Make them think you’re a pure caster then whip out the slicer and do a quick 900 damage. Throws them off a lot. Also it’s amazing for roll catching.
i don’t really like it since i play hybrid, i feel like since range is so good at least outside of pvp that the carian spells shouldn’t exist when you have scholars
Melee mages are so damn dangerous in this game atleast with regular builds you know what weapon you're dealing with with these mages it could be projectiles close range sword attacks aerial bombardments and enchanted long range cutting attacks
@@trevorveillette8415 Great looking? Sure. Cool? Not when you see the numbers on them. I rolled faith because they looked great, right now i can't remember when i last casted any incantation, since i got the Sword of Night and Flame. It's just pointless to waste FP on incantations when weapons have much better WAs. Also don't get me started on cast time on most incantations, what good does it make that a spell looks great when a pebble can stop you from casting it.
I like the spell line up, I recognized swift glinstone shard, carian slicer, adula’s moonlight, stars of ruin, and carian phalanx. For gear he had preceptor’s big hat, lusat’s glintstone staff, moonveil, and possibly Blaidd’s chest plate. Can’t recognize hands or feet, I’m not that good.
I'm currently 150 and to get my build where I want it for pvp I have to wear a faith boost talisman and the scarseal or scourgeseal talisman. I didn't want to over level but it seems like 160 is a good spot for pvp. I would love to hear others opinions.
Well no shit a lot of new players are coming in without having played any of the previous souls games and someone using a broken weapon doesn't make them good
It's great to see a good PVP match in elden ring no complaining just all out fun you guys are so awesome for less toxicity for Ellen rings I'll be doing one as soon as I can
@@vittxrio5198 No it's not. It's the Preceptor Hat, you get it either from Seluvis dying during Ranni's questline, or from Preceptor Mirium in the Liurnia Divine Tower, I can't remember which.
Been using astel’s wing as my mage melee of choice with Moonlight greatsword with a pair of frost bleed katana’s and lusat’s staff with spells based around frost
Earned a sub from me, I'll be honest I never seen your channel before elden ring but I'm glad I ran into it. You seem like a very seasoned and skilled player. Gg on that fight.
@@TheDepressedHollow ah ok gotcha, still a very good player imo. I was a super sweat in ds3 and now I feel like I have to learn pvp all over again and I love it.
He fights like my best friend, he uses a mage build with moonveil but his main source of damage are the spells and only use them according to the situation instead of spamming everything, so when he decides to use the moonveil its unexpected gets close to him: carian slicer or just normal attacks with moonveil be on distance: any ranged spells or gravity spells (i dont play with magic so i dont know the names of every spell yet) This fight remind me to how me and my friend plays (which we play like 3 hours ago by the moment im writing this comment)
Yeah his use of the weapon to bait you was really good, he would hold and do the wide one instead of the narrow one. You also had some really tight rolls and had a good idea for stamina management. I can’t wait for the PvP scene to pick up in this game like in ds3
What were the spells used/gear build on the mage? I am very much intrigued, great duel too, that has been the most proactive mage I've seen so far lol.
Holy shit. The mental fortitude it must've taken for him to not just Moonveil that fine bit of health away is praiseworthy. What SL is this? 125? That seems really low for how crazy the levels in this game seem to be getting.
But if you go higher, then there's no trade off between going full damage or not. Everyone will be full damage and at the same time have very high armor and HP.
its great, really! wondering though, (at 1:02) how to do that HORIZONTAL slash? i mean, ingame the unseathing technique is always vertical. or i missed something? or, he somehow put it on an other sword with some ash of war? or, is it the spell with the staff?
where are the best places to strictly duel? i feel like I can never find them and I only have to do invasions over at Castle Sol. what are good invasion spots also?
I've seen a lot of duels in the beginning area with the Tree Sentinel like in this video. The other areas are later in the game and I haven't gotten there yet.
I honestly wish people were just more open minded to pvp in whatever form it takes. The pvp community (at least from what I take from the comments under videos like this) in general seems to always have very strict and very narrow ideals of what fights need to be like and I don't really see the fun in that. I love pvp in souls games and Elden Ring because of the mobs interfering, the different terrain and weapon styles, being able to invade and drag people through catacomb traps or brawling with two reds, two yellows and two blues. People need to enjoy the chaos more. EDIT: I should say, I WISH they would enjoy the chaos more. They don't need to.
This was an awesome matchup. A strong melee focus opponent who can utilize a couple range attacks, vs a skilled spellsword who excels at range but isn't afraid to get in close to deal some damage if need be, not to mention the fight itself was really close. This is what I love most about Elden Ring's build variety. Not the crazy broken strats that exploit oversights made by the devs, but rather the variety in different builds with different strength and weaknesses that can still make for great matchups as long as the skill and knowledge is there.
Damn that was intense... Mage and you were very patient and testing each other. Trying to see slightest opening to attack. Measurement of each other's strength by just walking/running around circle like hyena circling prey. Good Fight. Keep up the content too please
They know what's up! I loved when he/she held the charge attack letting u panic using stamina anticipating the release then boom perfect hit. Was great to see the fight, love close call fights.
You both had the chance to heal and offset the fight, but I love the fact that both mutually agreed to have it all end in 1 attack rather than dragging.
Utilizes multiple spells rather than spamming one, is using multiple tactics that involve far range to midrange to close range, has a melee weapon and uses it proactively even purposefully charging at you to use it, and bows at the end of the battle like the classy mage they are. Great mage indeed.
Exactly how it should be.
Except what you just described is a spellsword. A pure mage uses only spells where a spellsword invests other points into stuff like str, dex, or health to make them more valuable in differing situations. This guy is a spellsword, I also have a spellsword build using pretty much the exact same setups for combat. There isn't anything wrong with someone playing a pure mage, and apparently since everyone thinks they are so easy to beat and so boring, why does everyone complain about them? If it's so easy to beat them then just do it and don't complain bc someone is running a different playstyle than unga bunga strength build, bc that is also boring as shit.
Yeah I thought the same especially the utilisation of the different spells adding different ranges and mechanics to keep your opponent guessing
How about mages play how tf they wanna play. If you can’t beat a traditional mage, then do like Kevin Durant and join the club. We’ll show you how to be great lol.
@@viatlas4835 it's fairly easy to fight a pure mage as they never invest in vigor but its just tedious to fight someone who spams carian phalanx and just runs away
It's a very nice change of pace to see someone praise a good battle/opponent. I feel like lot of content is just people bragging about being better than others but you always find some good matches and that doesn't get enough coverage
Wow. You're really the divergent thinker if you really think about it. Really bringing up a lot of good points maaaaaaan. Your post really made me think
@@pacifiedbeaumonte 😂🤣😂🤣
Because he is a great mage
I thought that too... Good to see someone praising the opponent. ¥(+_-)
@@pacifiedbeaumonte you not deadass
At 1:01 the fact that he actually expected the panic roll and went for the aoe attack instead to get a wide range shows cleary that he played a lot of ds3 pvp, most new people to elden ring pvp never roll on reaction
most players dont period, i dont think you mystically learn to roll on react from having played past games
What spell was that I might test it out
@@platinum_overdrive982 it was Moonveils weapon art
Yeah thats the first thing I noticed, I used to main an int melee build in DS3 and a lot of the mage's tactics are textbook, makes me so excited for when I eventually get the game :)
@@BeAsTMoDE528 Bloodborne says otherwise
I love the etiquette of Souls games PVP. Glad to see it remains. The unspoken rules of honorable combat make the PVP fun and exciting.
Except most people are toxic pieces of shit
You clearly haven't played a lot of Souls PvP then.... Honor is actually rare... It's often gank squad and ass holes that invades and attack while you are occupied with enemies
what's the etiquette?
@@coryw3339 No healing during the duel
@@coryw3339 no healing via estus/crimson flask is the only one I say people follow, but it's only in case if a summon, if you get invaded tho, I say it's fair game to heal
Depressed Hollow 19 hours ago: This is what you get for being a mage!
Depressed Hollow 9 hours ago: Ahh yes a worthy adversary
The mage is relentless!
Mage who use magic: Trash
Mage who use magic & sword: Gold
@@louisthewolf0816 Gandalf is dex hyprid too.
A full development arc
@@louisthewolf0816 a battle mage
I love the fact that he wasn't just using glitter Stone spam and was actually trying to get at medium range to use some ice spells as well as really get a full barrage from the phalanx.
Well, anyone dummby in pvp trying to spam magic arrows deserves to be slaughtered, and vice versa if your a dummby who gets hit with spammed magic arrows and doesn’t beat the glass mage, you deserve to be slaughtered by glitter pebbles lol…
@@nawhteven3830 Touch...gra-
@@softg3849 no grass, no grace, no maidens...
Maybe if the pebble spell wasn't the best in the game...
dummby
That final blow was cinematic as hell! And the bow too. That dude has my respects.
That was a great battle from both sides.
I particularly love how, when you both got low on health, the hectic exchange at the start of the duel gave way to a much more thought out duel of wits.
With each opponent down to one good hit it turned into a test of patience and skill. It was thrilling.
Hopefully we get to see more cool duels like this one in the future.
If he were better he would have had a much quicker weapon on hand to finish occasions like this, both of them
Damn that was intense. The fact y’all had a straight 30 seconds of both being at minimum health made me indecisive about who I wanted to win
The mage was waiting for him to make the first towards the end so he can punish and get the W
If the mage just shot stars of ruin when he had 1hp it would've been a guaranteed kill
@@rhapzodyk541 Yeah, but mad respect to him for deciding to go melee instead. He knew the OP couldn't do much in terms of range, so in the end he made it an even fight by going in when they were both one hit away from dying. You really can't tell who's gonna win in that situation until someone slips up and the other goes in for the punish.
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 OP threw that fire bomb that almost took him out though.
I think the recent patch improved pot scaling, but I'm not sure about throwing knives.
Nice. He bowed in respect. Cool and rare to see that in a competitive moment of a game
You're new to souls games then.
@@flannelbeard4621 You're right, I've only barely played DS3 haha
@@PsychicSploob in the old soulsgames i came in touch with red invaders that guided me through the map to find secrets, like false walls and item locations. The fromsoft community consists of awesome people.
honestly, in elden ring i have never seen a toxic player in my 55 hours of gameplay.
@@kuzey9400 try invading for t-bagging 3v1 goodness. Lots of chasing, lots of summoning.
Im absolutely enamored by him holding his attack at 1:01 . He didn't spam, didn't unsheath, but rather waited for an opportunity. Masterful (人 •͈ᴗ•͈)(人 •͈ᴗ•͈)🩵
He just like me fr
That last attack the invader did was honestly really dumb. Not sure why he did that.
zip it up when youre done bro
Just an observation.
At 1:24, the mage ran towards him. With the mage established as a melee expert too, he expected a slash but was met with a spell instead. Now the confusion and doubt now set in because he doesn't know what the mage will do. And ultimately led to his demise.
Fantastic psychological battle.
The guy playing: AHHHHH SPAMM
The mage: fuck, the wrong command
One of the best uses of swift glintstone, it's seriously fast and can be used jumping and running, haha.
Thank you
shut up nerd
I literally dont see why more mages play as a hybrid, the advantages are great, between phalanx, magic glint blade with alternate delays and stars or ruin you can seriously put alot of mid-long range pressure to force a roll which you can punish as a frame trap, too much of these mages just resort to spamming when hybrid melee/spells seems way more engaging and effective in my eyes
Spam go BRRRRRR
It’s 100% because it’s just more difficult that guy had some serious skill
@Ger Vang carian slicer will be your workhorse most of the game as a melee mage
Your comment broke in first sentence.
because this isnt real magic in most peoples eyes, the fact he had to finish the fight with an lol melee weapon is actually terrible. Just go melee...mages are supposed to be able to cast a fuck ton of spells at both long and mid/close range nearly endlessly to force tripups...and sorry to say "spam" is much more effective than what this guy is doing, this wouldnt even have been a fight with a normal mage build lmao the hammer dude woulda been wrecked in like 12 seconds.
Very good duel! Also, I am positive 125 will not be the meta when people realize the caps in this game.
EDIT: My opinion has since changed, since at 150 damage is insanely high, and even at 120 its still a bit high, and you still can make powerful builds. Im doing 133. Fextra says it will let me matchmake with 120 all the way to 166, so I can get a bit more stats, and also fight with both groups, since the community is split, with many of the good players disagreeing on it. Personally I say 120 is good, despite what I said in the past, due to then I did not see all the insane rings we have, just a few of the not as crazy ones. I also think 120 should be the meta for dueling, 150 should be meta for everything else like coop, and higher level pvp, 133 if you want to be with both will work also since you can play with 120-133. Below I will list a few builds that can play with 120, some at 120, 125, and 133, all are viable, and work very well.
Magic stats at 133 so it can play with both groups that works and lets you use the spell that needs 70 int, and have a lot of fp so you can magic spam, and use moonveil, and have good health, all without talismans, just use talismans and try to get better endurance and health.
50 vigor, 30 mind, 10 endurance, 18 strength, 18 dex, 70 intelligence. Add talismans for more cancer, switch int for faith if you want faith, works ok for that too. You can also lower to 60 if you don't want moon, you can get rid of some health or another stat if you don't want to be at 133 but want 120/125.
My strength build template for 125 is 60 vigor, 25 endurance, 66 strength, 18 dex. Add rings to it and you can have even more carry weight if needed, more health, more stamina, more fp, or whatever since there is a talisman or armor for that.
For quality I would also say 60 vigor, 25 endurance, 40 strength, 40 dex, puts you at 121, so you have some room to level something else also.
For Dex I would go 60 vigor, 25 endurance, 27 strength, 55 dex, which effectively lets you use most weapons also, and lets you have a little room for 2 more levels unless going higher like to 133, which it gives 10 points.
120+5 is fine for meta, but I will go to 133 to be in between the two just for the sake of playing with both groups and having a more simple time getting builds running.
If you have any questions on builds, I can throw some stats together if I see the comment, I am perfectly fine helping with that.
Same
There a guy who did the testing with softcaps. From what he read 60 is the true soft and SL 150lv. Anything above 60 is a waste of points. I'm in endgame zone at 103 and still get 2-3 tap by bosses
60 is the health soft cap, 50 is for end str dex, 80 for faith and int, I dont know about arcane If you’re doing a quality build, you would want 60/50/50/50, this leaves you at level 166. Going above 60 is not a waste for str dex and maybe end at the moment.
Edit: Soft cap is 80 for stronks and dex. Still, probably go 50 50 if you do quality, maybe.
@@jarrarwinks8470 Vigor 60, Mind 60, Endurance 50, those are the caps I'm aware of. Not sure about the rest.
@@jarrarwinks8470 It's 80 for STR and DEX. Someone on reddit did a whole table based on actual analysis.
When you were jumping in the air with no attack, you were essentially feinting and you saw him rolling into you based on the pattern you had set prior of whiffing air attacks. If you had come down and immediately attacked as soon as you hit the ground instead, you could've beat him out of his option select. Just a thought. Great duel man!
I know For Honor terminology when I hear it…
@@jowsh1826 you mean fighting game terminology? And it wasn’t even used correctly?
@@DoctorSoctopus Nice OS bro.
Yea. He did it twice, and I was thinking the same thing. Had him twice with the feint attacks.
Mages have to invest into more strat to win other than just relaying on pure hit. Mages gotta learn dodges and strat to win. Once you play as a mage you can take that knowledge and combat skills into other builds
That wasn’t a mage, that was a gamer.
That delayed attack at 1:01... People are learning from the bosses now...
yo i noticed that! I was like Margit, is that you?
That's why they are bosses
He got him good didnt he
It's the basics of PvP in Dark Souls, that's just veteran players.
The moonveil is especially great / bullshit for that because it costs nothing to hold it there in the "charged" stance, doesn't drain stamina or anything so you could feint people all day with that.
Wait, he actually got into melee range by his own initiative?
That’s not a bad tactic for a mage since they also do have spells for close range. Most guys prefer to just spam at a distance.
you have a drill spell which can pretty much one shot any others mages 😂
he prob ran out of fp
If you're using ice spells getting in at medium or close range is actually really beneficial.
"You are approaching me?"
1:37 That roll when he dodged was clutch. Like a combat scene from a movie.
That's an awesome duel. That person really knew how to utilize a mage build.
Appreciate it
It just me or is it absolute genius how he uses his big hat to hide him chug an FP flask? 1:15
Lmao
czcams.com/video/7s2R5SBlJTo/video.html Defeating Margit the Fell Omen at level 15
@@Wazulafu cute? I beat it on an unleveled character
@@Luablood oh look the braggarts are here. Good for you.
why do you think all sorcerers use big hats
He may be using the meta stick but I can respect him getting in there a few times at least and not doing the whole thing with spells.
the meta stick is the meteorite staff, lusats staff is the best endgame staff. would be dumb to not use it lol
@@xFearsomePandax p sure he was talking about the Moon Katana
@@xFearsomePandax he means moonviel
@@xFearsomePandax I meant moonveil.
Imagine being a mage and using spells that are your main class thing instead of melee dueling
Good to see that there are still some decent people out there who respect the no healing rule in PvP.
As a player new to From Soft games (played very little lf the others and none of most) I didnt know the PvP rules, everyone I fought was using flasks so i did too, but now i dlnt if they dont I just wasnt informed 😅
I use them if they summon buddies. Sometimes I’m fighting someone, and then another helper arrives
How is anyone suppose to know this tho? I didn't know till I fought someone and they told me not too, which I guess is how word is getting around but its not an obvious rule so 🤷
@@DJkazma66 it's pretty much a non-spoken rule that's been around for a long time, much like bowing before the duel.
I'm an elite tier dark souls 3 PVP player and I think this is a toxic garbage opinion. Even though I'm usually always the invader, so I have half your Estus and my health cut by 30% automatically, I still far and away prefer a dual where both parties are free to heal, it's far more dynamic and interesting, and if you can learn your opponent quickly it gives you a huge advantage. It's just much more complex and fun, and people like you trying to arbitrarily press this ridiculous no healing rule on other people is misguided and flat wrong.
i love that magic has finally had time to shine in pvp (although is still isnt super easy to use) it feels like a really fun and new type of playstyle that players are finally starting to use and i couldnt be more welcome to it!
Magic has it's own challenges. I think using it well is harder than it seems.
It always was
Hybrid are hard to beat start from 1:03 you can see the mage made him fear the katana since the fear is now installed he respected the katana which leave him open to the magic spell because of panic rolls start kicking in
I think there’s a good reason to be wary of a katana that can hit harder than str weapons
@@CuriosityMisledMe lol
@@CuriosityMisledMe that WA looked like it did like 600ish damage, he did 804 damage with a rolling attack of all things
What's the katana he's using?
@@cacadura99 moonveil katana, it has c scaling with int
That was a fun duel to watch. Imagine your heart was racing.
I thought I heard him squeak into the mike.
czcams.com/video/LlUDIiki_mU/video.html Defeating Mad Tongue Alberich
czcams.com/video/7s2R5SBlJTo/video.html Defeating Margit the Fell Omen at level 15
That's a Spellblade!
and yeah the moonlight katana or whatever is also a great and fast weapon.
Pretty easy to pick up as well, 10/10!
Loved the fact that neither used a single health potion at the end, very honoraburu.
Damn, that was intense! Great duel, thanks for sharing!
I love how you are giving props to a good player, who got the best of you this time - also love the respect from that player bowing to you after the defeat, acknowledging your effort in the battle as well. Can't wait for the rematch.
just stating that everything was/been teamwork
havent sleep since yesterday though
I adore melee spells in this game. Spells like Carian Slicer and Greatsword can rack up powerful damage or stagger.
Of course, not to discount the phalanx spells. Nothing says “mage” quite like powerful set up spells.
It’s nice to be able to have strong close range magic like that after putting 75% of my points into INT, nothing worse than getting instantly deleted close range with no way to defend
Slicer is so nice. Make them think you’re a pure caster then whip out the slicer and do a quick 900 damage. Throws them off a lot. Also it’s amazing for roll catching.
i don’t really like it since i play hybrid, i feel like since range is so good at least outside of pvp that the carian spells shouldn’t exist when you have scholars
I respect good matches and I respect even more when you post a loss shows sportsmanships you gained a subscriber outta me good fight!
Cheers! You are great warriors 👏
May you have many more jolly good competitions 😁
Melee mages are so damn dangerous in this game atleast with regular builds you know what weapon you're dealing with with these mages it could be projectiles close range sword attacks aerial bombardments and enchanted long range cutting attacks
Mage may be one of the best pvp builds so far
what about faith :( why no faith katana ?
@@burnersforhim deal with it bro. Faiths got the cool shit, sorcerers got the practical shit, and melee has the most busted shit or viable shit
@@trevorveillette8415 Great looking? Sure. Cool? Not when you see the numbers on them. I rolled faith because they looked great, right now i can't remember when i last casted any incantation, since i got the Sword of Night and Flame. It's just pointless to waste FP on incantations when weapons have much better WAs. Also don't get me started on cast time on most incantations, what good does it make that a spell looks great when a pebble can stop you from casting it.
@@GearardPC it’s ok let him keep sucking off the from soft devs
That attack at 1:02 was thing of beauty. He set it up by throwing a few jabs and he hits you with a hook!
Yeah he had conditioned him into panic rolling/rolling immediately after seeing him sheath, and there he holds it for far longer than usual.
@@notan3144 he surprised him with an arc instead of that other attack also
I like the spell line up, I recognized swift glinstone shard, carian slicer, adula’s moonlight, stars of ruin, and carian phalanx. For gear he had preceptor’s big hat, lusat’s glintstone staff, moonveil, and possibly Blaidd’s chest plate. Can’t recognize hands or feet, I’m not that good.
The fact that neither players , healed was nice. Let the duel decide. Praise to you both.
1:53 red potioned
I'm absolutely in love with this game, my god. I've been absolutely consumed by it to extremely unhealthy levels. Help!
Same
feel ya
Seek grass.
@@Harpuea 🤣
I haven't checked on my family for 2 weeks 🙃🙃
Wait wait wait, did he actually turn his character backwards on purpose, so that the giant hat would impede some of your vision??!?!
The reincarnation of big hat Logan
Cloak too, made some of his sword and staff switches less obvious I think?
I'm currently 150 and to get my build where I want it for pvp I have to wear a faith boost talisman and the scarseal or scourgeseal talisman. I didn't want to over level but it seems like 160 is a good spot for pvp. I would love to hear others opinions.
I like that you post a good fight even if you lost. Makes me wanna post some of my good fights
I love the little missile. A simple spell but quite unbreakable.
Actually a fantastic mage. He mixed things up perfectly.
One of the better pvps ive seen loving the look of both builds here
Man that was awesome. That mage build was impressive, so was the giant bonk stick hammer
1:01 Delayed attacks, my one true weakness! Damn you!
What I love about your vids are you actually Duel people who are good, not just raid noobs who have no idea how to pvp
To get better people need to practice. Insulting people trying is kinda hilarious...
@@gustavomazonave8536 it’s not trying when it’s you vs some idiot with a gank squad
@@jeremiahooms4716 i think elden ring dont have invader gang squad since max 4 , 2 good v 2 bad, although host can gank squad any invader 3 v 1
Well no shit a lot of new players are coming in without having played any of the previous souls games and someone using a broken weapon doesn't make them good
@@ebm4205 the thing is I’m a friendly, literally sit on my ass and do emotes the whole time
It's great to see a good PVP match in elden ring no complaining just all out fun you guys are so awesome for less toxicity for Ellen rings I'll be doing one as soon as I can
His dodge at the end to clutch had to of been frame perfect. Well done, mage. 👍
Ever heard of Gandalf the Grey?
Well here's Ganralf the Gray!
Gandalf the Blue maybe 😁
Duel started way later than expected
I subscribed the fights are amazing what is that sombrero the mage is wearing?
@@-Mu-min it's called Iron Kasa. Finish Yura's questline to get his armor set.
@@vittxrio5198 No it's not. It's the Preceptor Hat, you get it either from Seluvis dying during Ranni's questline, or from Preceptor Mirium in the Liurnia Divine Tower, I can't remember which.
@@xXTheKingEmothXx ahh yeah right, my bad my vision fooled me. It's a drop from Seluvis
@@vittxrio5198 definitely doesn’t look like the iron kasa 🤨
Been using astel’s wing as my mage melee of choice with Moonlight greatsword with a pair of frost bleed katana’s and lusat’s staff with spells based around frost
Earned a sub from me, I'll be honest I never seen your channel before elden ring but I'm glad I ran into it. You seem like a very seasoned and skilled player. Gg on that fight.
If I were being honest, I’m not *THAT* good, just basics in spacing and timing that’s all
@@TheDepressedHollow ah ok gotcha, still a very good player imo. I was a super sweat in ds3 and now I feel like I have to learn pvp all over again and I love it.
That was a close one! Great gameplay on both parts! 👍🏽 it's very refreshing to see good sportsmanship
czcams.com/video/7s2R5SBlJTo/video.html Defeating Margit the Fell Omen at level 15
Major respect between opponents too when neither one wants to heal because you're both down to the wire
Healing is a death sentence if the enemy reads it
It’s also a respect thing.
This is what I’ve been waiting to see. A gg
That was a cheeky fire bomb throw lmao
"That's it! I'm gettin' me mallet!"
respect for not chugging mid fight
Love your content brother 👏
This is the most enjoyable pvp I've ever watch
I went from melee to moonveil and staff to moonveil and moonblade. Strange combo I know but it looks sick.
Can we talk about the hit box porn at 1:28 I can’t believe he didn’t dodge and didn’t have to
He is just running sideways bruh
@@noobmaster1368 which did not work in dark souls 3
@@nottrollber5864 yes. But in elden ring it does. At least atm.
@@noobmaster1368 I can see that, that’s why I commented I can’t believe it, moron
It's been a while since I played DS3. Then I remembered why PvP (especially in Gank City) was bootycheeks
That giant hammer that obscures the view on the enemy.
He fights like my best friend, he uses a mage build with moonveil but his main source of damage are the spells and only use them according to the situation instead of spamming everything, so when he decides to use the moonveil its unexpected
gets close to him: carian slicer or just normal attacks with moonveil
be on distance: any ranged spells or gravity spells (i dont play with magic so i dont know the names of every spell yet)
This fight remind me to how me and my friend plays (which we play like 3 hours ago by the moment im writing this comment)
I'm surprised he didn't use the frost greatsword spell more. That thing is aqesome
This game make U feel so powerful with any build u go with and it’s beautiful
I played some DS3 and a pinch of Bloodborne, and I felt so terrified doing anything at all in those games. Elden Ring has me mad confident lmao
@@RocketTurret yea elden ring is a walk in the park if you want it to be lol
what class should i start to be like that (mage) ? and which stat should i build, int/dex or faith/dex? and what weapon he use in this video?
such a good fight! respect to both of you
Yeah his use of the weapon to bait you was really good, he would hold and do the wide one instead of the narrow one. You also had some really tight rolls and had a good idea for stamina management. I can’t wait for the PvP scene to pick up in this game like in ds3
*AAUUURHHHH*
*AAUUURHHHH*
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*AAUUURHHHH*
*AAUUURHHHH*
……. *AAUUURHHHH*
This is the kinda build I want. I didn’t start out with a mage build, so I’m working my way through the academy to unlock the respec option.
I want this type of build too. Do you the path I should take to make it? I haven't picked a class yet.
This was the most tense 1v1 I’ve seen so far
what armor pieces is the mage using?
Loving these PvP moments - you should try uploading in 4k if you can!!
This was so intense dude. Holy cow
What were the spells used/gear build on the mage? I am very much intrigued, great duel too, that has been the most proactive mage I've seen so far lol.
A true and honourable pvp fight! Those are rare to come by
Holy shit. The mental fortitude it must've taken for him to not just Moonveil that fine bit of health away is praiseworthy.
What SL is this? 125? That seems really low for how crazy the levels in this game seem to be getting.
Soft caps are high as heck.
Looks like it's much higher than 125 to me, honestly.
But if you go higher, then there's no trade off between going full damage or not. Everyone will be full damage and at the same time have very high armor and HP.
@@Darca1n its 125
@@zeetche1938 why is that bad? then it will really be a skill gap
I seriously love these videos because this guy posts the goos LOSSES too, so you never know what's going to happen.
its great, really! wondering though, (at 1:02)
how to do that HORIZONTAL slash? i mean, ingame the unseathing technique is always vertical. or i missed something? or, he somehow put it on an other sword with some ash of war?
or, is it the spell with the staff?
Use r1 instead of r2 for horizontal slash. I just discovered that after several hours of using moonveil lol
A very nice clean fight.. very satisfying!!
where are the best places to strictly duel? i feel like I can never find them and I only have to do invasions over at Castle Sol. what are good invasion spots also?
I've seen a lot of duels in the beginning area with the Tree Sentinel like in this video. The other areas are later in the game and I haven't gotten there yet.
Im SL 125, the first step is very active for red signs
@@TheDepressedHollow im SL 127, thanks for telling me
@@TheDepressedHollow omg bro its nonstop duels. thank you so much
That was a great duel, love they played to their strengths~
that was a helluva good fight to watch .. and classy
this was one exciting duel, i wish all pvp was like that
I honestly wish people were just more open minded to pvp in whatever form it takes. The pvp community (at least from what I take from the comments under videos like this) in general seems to always have very strict and very narrow ideals of what fights need to be like and I don't really see the fun in that. I love pvp in souls games and Elden Ring because of the mobs interfering, the different terrain and weapon styles, being able to invade and drag people through catacomb traps or brawling with two reds, two yellows and two blues. People need to enjoy the chaos more. EDIT: I should say, I WISH they would enjoy the chaos more. They don't need to.
Yeah I much prefer scrappy invasions, duels can be nice too though and feel very satisfying winning against a similarly skilled player.
yoooo siick fight. GGs to both of you fr fr
Easily one of the most fun and interesting battles I’ve seen👍🏼 great job!
That was a great fight and a great mage showing off tactics and finesse.
This was an awesome matchup. A strong melee focus opponent who can utilize a couple range attacks, vs a skilled spellsword who excels at range but isn't afraid to get in close to deal some damage if need be, not to mention the fight itself was really close. This is what I love most about Elden Ring's build variety. Not the crazy broken strats that exploit oversights made by the devs, but rather the variety in different builds with different strength and weaknesses that can still make for great matchups as long as the skill and knowledge is there.
God tier from both players. Love this and the tension was real
fun fight to watch nice work to both of you!
This felt like I was watching anime lol
Damn that was intense... Mage and you were very patient and testing each other. Trying to see slightest opening to attack. Measurement of each other's strength by just walking/running around circle like hyena circling prey. Good Fight. Keep up the content too please
Love battles like these
anyone know what gear the Samurai Mage is wearing? Hat and cape are so dope
They know what's up! I loved when he/she held the charge attack letting u panic using stamina anticipating the release then boom perfect hit.
Was great to see the fight, love close call fights.
czcams.com/video/7s2R5SBlJTo/video.html Defeating Margit the Fell Omen at level 15
@@Wazulafu ok now do it at level one
You both had the chance to heal and offset the fight, but I love the fact that both mutually agreed to have it all end in 1 attack rather than dragging.
Standard PvP duelling rules, actually. If you’re doing it properly
thats is what you are supposed to do on a duel
That was such a cool fight on both sides.
Honestly just really nice to watch