I Bought The World's "Best Productivity Mouse"
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- MX Master 3S Review. What's the best mouse for productivity? Is it the MX Master 3s white edition? - no. Mx Master 3s review and the Logitech MX Master review about the Logitech mx master 3s white review. Today's video is the Logitech mx master 3s white long-term review.
Note: I returned the white version and got the black one. Tidy as ever. The forearm pain went away, the Bluetooth issues didn’t.
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0:00 Bluetooth Issues
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2:23 Good Features
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2:58 Tracking Surfaces
3:15 The White Version Gets Dirty
4:13 Charging Indicator
4:25 Side Scroll Wheel
4:43 Battery
4:51 Actuation Force
5:04 PAIN
5:30 BIG CONCLUSION
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I read inside the Logitech manual that if you scroll back up and SMASH the like button the Bluetooth latency will disappear from your mouse
hahahaha good one.
i am using the same mouse with my macbook, i have the similar issue.
Did the wrists pain goes away?
Yes, for me it did @@HIHIHJIHIHIH
I think I found a permanent fix to the bluetooth issue (do let me know if it works as I'm planning to get this mouse):
In the terminal run this command :
`sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.airport.bt.plist bluetoothCoexMgmt Hybrid` - without '
The command will modify preference settings to Bluetooth coexistence management using the hybrid value. It basically should improve the coexistence between Bluetooth and other wireless devices.
Found this from a reddit post, would post link if I could but this comment would get deleted.
I honestly feel like Apple has to do with like 80% of these issues. I tried using my razer viper mini on my macbook pro 2021 and the experience was horrible, mostly because of apples awful acceleration settings and lack of button support. Linear mouse did fix the majority of issues but it was still sucked just trying to get a regular mouse to work.
Nah, I use it on PC and I agree with almost all of these issues, and even a few more. To me, the scroll wheel is way too sensitive, and the way it's designed, your finger rests next to so there are constant "accidental" scrolls. The gesture button is a head-scratcher. They chose the most difficult button to press on the heaviest mouse in existence to use as a "gesture" button, which forces you to slide the mouse while only holding it with the center of your thumb. Makes no sense. It also doesn't have tilt scroll, which my last four mice had. And, no, the horizontal scroll wheel is not a suitable replacement because tilting is a button click, not a scroll. They also put the button to switch PCs on the bottom, unlike other Logitech mice, where you can easily switch without picking up the mouse, and the 3S forces you to use the Bolt dongle and will not work with the Unifying receiver (in which I have over a dozen Logitech products I use with it). It also forces you to use the newest version of its software (Options+), which has some features removed from the previous version.
And, to top all of this off, it's $100. It would be a nice mouse for $40, but at $100, it's kind of a ripoff.
@@leafbellyI’ve used many mice in my life and I’ve never used one better than this one (for productivity)
A lot of those problems are MacOS, since apple makes it harder for non apple mice to work properly
Thanks for keeping it honest! I’ve had all these issues with my MX Master 3. Unfortunately no other other youtuber mentions this issues.
Ayee of course, thanks for watching
The most honest review for a popular products that has sometimes never been told by any tech reviewer
Ayee thanks for watching
After a month using it i can say this is all bs.
@@Tanfor1 are you on windows then?
@@kouhaiii3182 we all are mac i shit ;D
after approximately 2 years with this mouse i can tell you is absolut trash tier an not a premium productivity beast
I got the mouse in black so I avoided the yellow tinting and otherwise I only have some issues on my macbook, on my pc it works fine, but that's more of an issue with MacOS and how it works with mice. Also, I think you really need to have a specific grip and "average" hand size for the mouse to be comfortable, for me I am now feeling a lot less pain working with my mouse.
Yeah the pain went away from me too after a few weeks. I think it was just a matter of getting used to it.
I don't have the yellow that you have nor do I have most of the issues you've mentioned, aside from how stiff the click is on the scroll wheel and how difficult it is to use the thumb rest button. I'm not sure if you have a lemon or something but I can fps and do everything just fine. It's just heavier than my g502 x plus for gaming is all but it feels very solid and premium in the hand.
Dear Bog, thank you for this video. I am *trying* to use logitech mx master series for a long time as a content creator from Turkey. I bought all the 3 models. But using it with bluetooth... not much possible. I am constantly using it with USB dongle. Even the USB Dongle is not working properly sometimes. So the solution I found is, I bought a USB extender as male and female, put is a spesific distance away from my computer, and then pluging the receiver. That is how I sold the problem for good. Thank you for your effort.
Nice, thanks for sharing your experience!
Had all the same issues with this mouse. Good to know that I am not alone.
Agreed to everything you said, I’ve used all mx mice since s2. These issues exist. And for my mac i have a worst one, every while the custom shortcuts stop working so i have yo kill the options process to make it work again, very frustrating and non existent in a 30$ mouse.
Yeah, forgot to mention the custom shortcut part. I also have that. Thanks for watching!
Same mouse here. Doing everyday tasks and work feel like a breeze, but I don't get the same problems that you do when gaming. Did you have it on dongle when you played a game?
I had it on Bluetooth. Non-FPS games are great of course because they don't require a high pooling rate but competitive shooters are a problem. Of course, this mouse is not designed for gaming I just tried it out for fun xd.
I’ve been using the regular 3 for the past 3 years, I don’t have none of these issues and I use a Mac, lately updated with m2 max.
Uuu nice, so maybe it's only on this model 🤔 Do you have the white version?
@@bogxd nope, I have the black version
I have a black MX Master 3 (not S and not Mac version but the regular version with the unifying receiver), I purposely did not buy the gray version because I was worried it would get dirty, especially because it has a rubbery texture. I have a M1 MacBook Air and a PC, I had a laggy scrolling issue with it on the Mac that I solved with installing the MOS app, but before finding it, it was indeed a nightmare. Fingers crossed, I haven't had issues ever since.
@@Afromartian me too! I love this mice!
I got two of these in black 2S and the 3 my favorite mices now programmed, to do what the trackpad can do. Hopefully add another button for more options on the next one…
hey I also have Bluetooth problems on my MacBook Pro m1 16 inch, but not only with that mouse but also with the Magic Mouse, did you find any solution?
I didn't find it. I usually just keep restarting the bluetooth module via terminal or turning off my mouse and turning it back on again. That usually fixes the issue for a little while.
@@bogxd If you find a solution to this, it would be great if you made a video on the subject! thank you so much
@@prodsk8miles I will let you know if I do find it! Thanks for watching
@@bogxd Do you use the logitech dongle? That should solve the problem, but it's disappointing that such an expensive laptop has that bluetooth problem. and thanks for answering my comment!
@@prodsk8miles Nah, I bought the mouse specifically so that I don't have to use a dongle so I refuse to use it even though it does reduce lag :D
It sounds as though the main gripes are with Mac OS connectivity issues. I do find it baffling that Mac users have to buy exactly the same mouse (bar the colour )without out a unifying receiver, nuts! Also, a surprise is that for PC users, we get a non USB C dongle in the age where everything new is going USB C.
Other than that, I have to disagree with you on the Mag scroll wheel, it is by far the USP of the mouse. The MX anywhere is too small for daily use, and this is the only other mouse that has mag scrolling (I think).
I use the aerox 5 wireless on my mac. It works with bluetooth & i have macro for spaces, cause it has software for mac too.
Hi, I was very close to getting this mouse. But not sure after this video. What would you recommend is a better similar mouse?
Hello, honestly I don't really know, haven't tested many other bluetooth mice. Only ones with a dongle (which is annoying to have with a macbook).
I have the same issue with pain. Did your pain got away eventually? I don't know if I should get used to mouse shape or if pain won't get away, I totally don't want to get a carpal tunnel syndrome. Never had this problem with any mouse or trackpad before
Yeah I was scared about the carpal tunnel syndrome too but it went away for me after a while (like 2.5 weeks)
@@bogxd thanks! I’ll keep trying then
@@kigastu Thx for watching
Love the mx3... haven't experienced any of the same issues but i do use the dongle. Also wouldn't say the mousepad is for oil on the hands...
The mx master 3s for mac has de same scroll issue?
Great review! I used it for 14 months until last week when I bought the Rapoo VT9Pro. I found it to be of very good quality, but terribly non-ergonomic. I frequently had to adjust my hand position to prevent tendonitis due to ergonomic issues. I believe it caused strain on my hand for three reasons: it's too tall, too heavy, and the thumb rests on top of the mouse instead of serving as a point of support on the table. I had to make a conscious effort not to click accidentally. While the scroll wheel's ability to rotate freely is great, there were times when I wished for a regular wheel. The side-scrolling wheel is awful and unnotched.
I used the dongle so I had no connection problems.
So what is your mouse of choice to work with both, Windows and Mac?
The MX master 3s black lol
Appreciate the honest review.
I just ordered this mouse yesterday. I'll look out for the negatives you mentioned, thanks.
I was about to buy this. Thanks
Hello, May i know if the Razer Viper ultimate is a much better option for mac?
About that sensor tracking and vertical scroll thingg, i think it's related to OS thing....
Yea, i have same issues on MAC (bassically i couldnt game ANY FPS game with this mouse on mac), but then, when i tried it on windows, and played Doom Ethernal on 300dpi (15% sensitivity i think) and i dont have any issues, it tracks well.... and vertical scroll wheel behave exactly the same across all apps on windows... not on mac.....
anyone find the mouse makes your hand pain after use? i just bought and tried for a while but i my hand feel not comfortable very soon
wait so did you return the white one and buy the black one (from your previous vids) or did you just buy both
Yep, returned the white one and got the black.
@@bogxd ohhhh
@@bogxd did the black one fix all the issues? Scrolling, lagging, etc?
I am using always my 120Hz screen (Macbook pro 2021), but scrolling with this mouse let my screen be like 40Hz any one with the sam issue?
I still have mine for almost 3 months, and its white as snow. Maybe sweaty hands?
Wouldn't say they're super sweaty but the yellow came out like immediately. 2-3 days and it was very noticeable. I decided to return the white version and get the black one instead.
I thought this video was from a big channel because of the quality. Keep up the good work bro
I appreciate that! thank you for watching
I got the MX Master 3 (loudy clicky one), it's not too bad... But if u wanna buy this mouse, get the non mac version. It literally has no difference apart from its colour and with a unifying/bolt receiver included for no price difference :)
Yeah, absolutely, I got the non-mac version too.
Did the same thing since the white version was out of the question after I saw how horrible Ali Abdaal's example looks. YUCK, don't google it.
Pretty happy with for the most parts, but I did notice that the dongle doesn't like being behind my monitor or under the desk. Makes the cursor stutter/teleport. Feels kind of pointless to have a wireless version where the dongle has to be 20 cm away from the mouse with line of sight. I'll need to try another USB-C to -A adapter to see if that fixes it.
Relatable.
Cleaning with wet tissue helps a little bit with that yellowing and bluetooth stutters can be fixed by bt module reset in terminal.
Overall I think is the best mouse if you are not playing games with it.
I ended up returning it and getting the black version.
@@bogxd does black version fix lags?
@@deletedchanneI nope, it's pretty bad
@@bogxd oh, I thought they work better
I have black one and it stays clean, except for the dust.
The main problem is low polling rate - 140 Hz even through the dongle. Totally not playable. And you have to get used to it even when you're not playing, if you just switched from gaming mouse with 1000 Hz rate.
Yeap.. On bluetooth I think it's 90 hz even. So it looks laggy either way if you're on 140 or 120 hz monitor
Had to check that. I have a mouse that can be switched between 125 and 500 and I don’t notice any difference. Puhhh! 👍😄
Subscribed, honesty is rarely seen these days, too many marketers disguised as reviewers.
Finally, someone is out there just like me who is having the exact problems with this mouse. Randomly the left click requires extra and extreme pressure to make it click. I don't know how to fi this at all. Pain!!
i got the 3 s for mac and i`m satisfied. it has an smooth scrollwheel option in the logi app and it scrolls very nice and smooth nearly as on the magic mouse.
Agree. I can’t use it with bluetooth. But with dongle it’s much better.
Is the yellowing a common thing across white logitech products?
This is the first Logitech product I ever bought so idk. I would guess not because this mouse has a very specific rubbery texture which I doubt most of their other products have.
i'm looking to get a new mouse for my macbook pro m1. do you suggest getting the mx master or the magic mouse?
The Magic Mouse will not lag as much as the Mx Master but it's harder to get used to. You could order both, try them out and then return the one you don't like as much (if you're buying through Amazon). I've personally switched to the Magic Mouse for now.
@@bogxdi think your mouse is broken. How can it lag?
The Magic Mouse is awful, avoid it
Hello, I have seen that pale gray over time it turns yellow. What about yours? Did it turn yellow or brown?
Hello, mine turned yellow
@@bogxd How long after use did it turn yellow?
I have that same issue where using it through bluetooth with the pointer lagging wierd as you mentioned on my M2 MacBook Air. Weirdly doesn't happen on my iPad and on other Macs.
Blutooth is generally problematic on M2 macbooks. I use a regular mouse and it lags a lot but never on older macbooks or winders
agree with the scrolling inconsistency with the wheel, got used to it over time but was super annoying for long time
I've had the same problems on bluetooth and the logi bolt receiver. The bit I don't understand is why - even with a 90hz or 125hz polling rate - it feels so laggy, when my other mouse, a Logitech G603, also has 125hz but feels very responsive. Logitech is doing something wrong here for sure.
I got the magic mouse to test it out and it has a 90hz polling rate and it still feels much more responsive than the mx master with its 125hz rate
Scroll when being loud and off is a flaw. My first one had that. I had it replaced. Replacement is perfect. But I don't PC game, and I got black.
Really good review! I'm giving you a follow and a like!
Nice, thanks for watching
Mine just broke after 2 months for no reason, I searched in internet and supposedly it doesn’t fix after.
We ain't never giving up our MX Masters. I'm on my 8th year with these.
I would rather recommend a gaming mouse. it have like 5 buttons with G-Shift. its craze. I can use my gaming mouse for switching between desktops and forward/backing in browser tabs. I have also setup menu where with my Mac and it's really just useful. highly recommend it if bluetooth is not a must. unfortunately its likely to be 🙂
I decided to use my dog's paw wipers: they are not alcohol based and they remove oils and grimes deep. It absolutely cleans my mx master, but like you said, the materials as is naturally absorb gunk. But if you want to cut through the stains without using soap and water or alcohol, use paw wipers. They're in your local pet shop and may under "disinfectants. They're not even harsh on your skin because you clean your pets with it.but then again- my mx master doesn't get yellow after 4 days, more like two weeks and I wash my hands every time before i work on my computer and i have a case for my mouse... so i guess if anyone is not constantly babying their devices even after a year, i'd say natural habits just prove that this mouse' materials are not built to be an everyday mouse.
Thank you for the comment - I tried makeup remover wipes and they worked too! It takes more than a single wipe, but I'm happy there's an easy way to clean it up since I really do love this mouse.
It is a mac thing. Also clicking the button under the scroll wheel will solve your accidental scroll issue
I have another mouse and it doesn't work well with my ipad but on windows its perfect so idk if this is a mouse issue or an apple issue. But some of the issues I didn't know of, thanks for these. ❤
I would check with support if I was you about the scroll issues, I own 2 of these mice and I can't replicate it (I am on Windows and Linux so it might be that). Thanks for the honest video.
I have the MX Anywhere 3s and I think it has the same scroll wheel and Bluetooth tech and this is the best mouse I have ever used (other than when I'm gaming) I love the scroll wheel so much as it makes it super easy to scroll really really fast and far by just flicking it and this is the best Bluetooth I have ever used, there is no delay and it connects faster than I can set it down after turning the mouse on. I do use Windows though
Finally an honest review. I bought it after seeing all the reviews saying it was wonderful and after 30 minutes of use I already regretted getting it. I found the grip very uncomfortable and the pain in my forearm was insane. I don't know if I'd get used to it but I bought it for the ergonomics and to not feel pain, so it makes no sense to use it if it hurts me
3:38 I don’t understand why they even sell a white one, I’m glad I got the black one & I love it. My favorite part about its shape is that I can hold it with a 3 finger grip comfortably, index on left click, middle on scroll wheel & ring on right click, I know I’m one of the only people who holds a mouse like this but I find it to be quicker when I don’t have to move my finger over to the scroll wheel
- The Bluetooth problem sounds like a Mac issue, which I hope it got solved over time. As you say there does not seem to be issues on Windows, and I have been using this mouse in Linux (with the dongle though) and I have zero lag or connectivity issues, even when Linux is the 'less supported' platform out of the three desktop ones.
- The mouse wheel click causing a scroll is something that happened to me the first week as well. The wheel has some 'ratchet' mechanism and depending on how you press it, the wheel may move backwards or forward. To be honest, you get used to it and there are certain angles which will never cause this issue, after a couple of days it becomes a mechanic reaction once you find the right position.
- The scroll back and forward, it is not the mouse is not registering, the mouse is designed to automatically switch between ratchet and 'fidget toy' mode when you apply a certain ... 'speed' to it? This way, if you want to scroll quickly in either direction, you don't need to press the button to change. If you scroll back and forth at certain speed you are activating the magnets on the 'fidget toy' mode, which causes that sense of not registering because the mouse is expecting to freewheel in a direction and a fraction of a second later you are forcing stop the scroll and changing its direction, over and over. I don't think a real scenario when you need to scroll forward and back several times at speed, but if you do, if you reduce a little bit the speed, you will notice you will feel the 'ratchet' mechanism again and while this is active, it registers reverse scrolling effectively every time I tried it.
- On the consistency of the scrolling, I had this in my Linux computer as well. There is an option in the Linux app called 'scroll wheel resolution' which toggles the sensibility of the vertical scroll. I am guessing there is a similar option in the Logi app, and toggling this fixed the issues for me, I hope this turns out useful for you as well.
- I use the side scroll wheel for vertical scrolling, I guess depending on the line of work that can be very useful or not 🤷♂
- About the pain, I had that as well the first day I got it 😅I was used to a Logi K400 keyboard with integrated trackpad, so I was not used to have my wrist against a surface the way a regular mouse works, and the first day it did hurt. After some thought, it was the angle and the position I was putting the mouse on the desk, which was causing some pressure on my wrist and my carpal tunnel. Once I found the right position, I haven't had any issues again. I am not saying that is your issue as well, but most of the time ergonomics play a heavy roll on this matter.
There are valid things to dislike, like the decolorization of the mouse (sorry to hear that 😬) and the noise of the click wheel, but I think most of it can be worked around with a little of effort or may be a little too nitpicky. I work 8+ hours a day with the MX Keys S and the MX Master 3S and to be honest, relating to the mouse, it has been a very pleasing experience so far.
Hahaha so true, I got the same mouse and I'm so sick and tired of its scroll wheel and laggy appearance on Mac OS
I had this mouse but had lots of issues with it especially lagging
Has the Lagging issue been resolved? I'm thinking of buying, I have a MacBook pro m1
Nop still the same issues, i bought one and its very lag bt and using the usb. I dont recommend it
Luckily I saw this video before making up my mind on which color to go with so I got the Graphite instead. I still remember the first laser mouse more than a decade ago - the laser MX1000. It was comfortable to use but I wouldn't call it a gaming mouse. I bought the MX 3S primarily as a 'work'/web browsing mouse where egonomics mattered more than speed/accuracy, with the added bonus of having intuitive horizontal/vertical scrolling and especially the longer battery life. My wireless Logitec 502 Lightspeed's battery life was really atrocious so I use it primarily for short burst of gaming before plugging in to recharge. I'm banking on the MX 3S to provide prolonged usage without the need to constantly recharge it since it will be used primarily for web browsing and work.
This is a gem of a video, FINALLY some review worth watching. All other CZcamsrs make videos that are saying nothing they just review the product as it was marketed but you, you dug deep to what really counts. I was deciding between MX and magic mouse and now I'm definitely buying the magic mouse and it's because of your video.
Thank you Bog
bad choise, think about trackpad
At first I thought you were not a simp fanboy, but the conclusion is a shame: buying a magic mouse.
C'mon that fking mouse is the sh. itty. est mouse ever and is as expensive as mx master. Better stick to a Logitech m280 or any other mouse
Well, someone thinks hating apple products makes you a better person a proud individual. Good for you
@@NawafRabah Why I should not if some of their products is piece of shit and doesn't cost that money?
any improvement meanwhile?
I use this.mouse in all black color, which does match my silver MacBook. My wife got the Space gray to match her space gray MacBook. The light gray (white) was never considered, white always gets dirty fast and yellows. As for functionality. It has been nothing short of amazing. I am an IT professional since 1989 and used many mice, high end gaming mice too, this 3s is the BEST all around mouse I have ever used.
Im impressed by how wrong everything went for you. I'm a graphic designer, got it for a while now and all I can say its the best I've ever used. Allow me to break down every point from my experience:
1. I didn't install any custom apps or changed any settings in mac, it just works perfectly. No lags, no freezes, no issues with BT. Steady flawless work.
2. The scroll wheel is the best I've used so far, magnets doing their thing perfectly, it scrolls the same in all apps as it should.
3. I've tried to simulate your scrolling actions and couldn't get the same result.
4. Agree here, the scroll button is not silent but I generally use it rarely.
5. Color, yes, I picked the black one because it is obvious the white will get dirty, as everything in life, lol. Nice matching with a silver MacBook though!
6. Battery. Just checked, I’ve used 20% of battery in over 2 weeks. The battery charges slowly, while you CAN use it plugged, crazy.
7. The horizontal scrolling is great in work, the resistance is just right for not accidentaly scrolling it.
8. I’ve also experienced some numb hand when using it, but that was because of table-chair positioning, not the mouse lol.
My overall advice, get the “non-mac” version, it has the same functionality but comes with a USB dongle, which offers better polling rate (I get 140Hz) when using it, in case you need gaming or something more accurate. I definitely recommend it to anyone, just give it a try for a few days and you will see the beauty of it. Thanks for the video and best of luck!
I like the honesty but these issues are rather strange. I dont have these issues on my Mac with my own Mx Master 3s. I will say that using the LogiOptions+ software is helpful with the sensitivity of scroll wheel, shortcut actions, DPS settings, etc etc. Also why do people complain about Apples pointer acceleration? I actually really like it. It slows down when you make slight movements to give you finer control. I don’t understand what the problem people have with it. Can someone explain lol.
Exactly. I wonder if her got the version for Mac or regular version.
@@PLANETWATERMELONis mentioned in one of the replies he got the windows version. Obviously because it comes with a dongle! But this is wrong.
overall the mouse feels good BUT the lag problem with the dongle and bluetooth + the scroll whell makes me crazy... i hpe mx 4 will fix these problems... also they should bring out a mini version of if wich is exactly the same but just a lil bit shorter for ppl with shorter hands
It's an awesome mouse in a lot of ways but the polling rate is very low (135hz). That's also why it has such a long battery life, but tbh the mouse cursor is too choppy at that polling rate. I wish i could sacrifice some battery life for a higher polling rate. It's a shame you can't adjust it in the software
cons > pro + my normal dell mouse (usb though) works just fine.. so even if I had all the money in the world to buy the one you reviewed or the one i saw in dave2d's video, i would still stick with my dell mouse ....
Awesome honest under the iceberg review 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Unfortunately the white rubber will get more and more yellow overtime like white sneakers
How's the color now ?
And what's the best alternative white mouse for productivity and casual gaming?
Thx for watching
@@bogxd just saw that video
That magic thing is painful to see
I guess i will go back to a wired mouse for now then
I strangely got used to it a little bit now but yeah it definitely has its drawbacks xd @@kamm3021
It is incredible that a good mouse starts from Rs 500 and goes till Rs 10000 and there is no real justification to get one over another. (if you are not gaming)
Bass noises don't travel far so the scroll wheel isn't really that loud
You're dealing with Mac issues. Unfortunately macos shits on the logi settings app, which is not great to start out.
For me the worst of all would be the low polling rate. It makes the mouse cursor feels really choppy in regular screens but unusable in higher refresh rate monitors.
What would be a cheaper alternative?
M720 triathlon
Yeah, this lags so much that I don't want to use it at all. I ended up using a different mouse and this just collects dust now. Had high hopes.
I have the regular mx master 3 in silver color and on windows it has literally none of these issues except 1, which is the issue if you scroll up and down too fast it doesn't register properly. This is really a non issue for me since i never have to scroll like that. The mouse has been amazing for over a year and is actually ergonomic. Also, I don't experience any lag issues. I think your problem is your mac more than the mouse.
I am about to return this. This slow down my productivity,, wired mouse are fast.
The fun part is that a lot of this problems do not exist in the mx master 2
Great for reading documents because of the awesome mouse wheel. Although, there are things that a normal mouse wheel does better too, like zooming in CAD-work for example. (Several quick bursts being much better than one unresponsive/unaccurate "send" with the free-scroll, from which you don't know where you'll end up.) And as a pointing device it is indeed simply: Crap. I have degraded mine to "laptop mouse" in favour of my Steelseries Prime Wireless. That thing I can send to the other end of my ultrawide with an effortless swing, or maybe two with a lift in the middle. And I don't even have to think about lifting it up and placing it down elsewhere to adjust pointer position vs. hand position, it just happens. Lifting up and adjusting, or even just flicking around the MX, is clunky, slow and cumbersome due to the weight. The sensor is unaccurate, and what's more, the shape isn't actually ergonomic compared to a classic EC2 ergo shape. I got wrist-pain from it when doing hours of CAD work a day. I don't get that any more with the Prime. That's a completely different (and much better) experience than it was using the MX Master. I just didn't realize the grass was greener on the "gaming mouse side", because the MX Master was such a "premium" hyped up product
i totally argee with the color issue, i soooo annoyed that i have to upgrade to the 3s with black color.
I was about to buy this as a combo with MS KEYS S , Thanku
The infinite scroll is not a gimmick, once you get used to it, and especially if you do a lot of scrolling. I can never ever work again with a normal mouse wheel... Plus, a scenario where you just go up and down repeatedly and fast is just so unrealistic and this issue for me is a non-issue... I currently have the G903 and mx anywhere 3 and I just tested this with both. It does exactly as you described in both of them, ends up scrolling down slowly. Yet I only encountered this issue just now by trying to replicate it and I have been daily driving logitech infinite scroll for 6 years now.
The sound difference between the buttons and the scroll wheel is like USP-S and AK47
USP-S and Negev
I've got one of these and it works perfectly. No dongle either.
Please make a video for the mice and keyboards you would actually recommend.
Honestly I haven't tried that many them so my recommendations would not be that great
The scroll wheel is terrible! There are so many positive reviews about this mouse out there, I think half of it is biased and the other half just got into the hype of the biased ones. The scroll responsiveness is so weird that I thought I had a faulty unit and replaced it. The replacement is just like the first one.
Same here. It worked great on Windows but after switching to Mac this mouse is frustratingly inaccurate on pointer tracking and scrolling. Were you able to find a mouse that works better with mac?
@@hishamsaeed I'm quite happy with the Razer Pro Click. Even though I'm more on Linux than Mac, it seems to work well with the apple.
I don't have the lag in my two mx master 3, not even 3s. soo....
magic eraser may help get the yellow tint off the mouse
idk mine doesnt lag at all...looks like u got a defective one. That sucks
I returned the while and got the black version but the lag is still the same. Weird
I'm returning mine just based off the scroll wheel stutter alone, it's so bad for how expensive it is. considering cheap ass mice do not do it
Note that pretty much any software problems mentioned here only happen on Mac.
Which mouse you are using now?
The black version. It still has all the other issues apart from the white staining. Not sure if it was a mistake returning it and getting the black one or if I should have gone with something else entirely.. Probably the latter option.
@@bogxd I've got black one - and for me 100% overpriced but still very usefull. Sometimes laggy and the scroll is... u know :D. For last 4 years i was using microsoft sculpt if it weren't for the fact that the keys are typically under widows I would probably continue using it. Dunno which one is the best for mac. Anyway thanks for honest review :)
@@KofiFreestyle Ayeee nice! Thanks for watching
I agree with everything: wrist pain, not comfortable. The scroll is horrible, and my hand was sweeting all the time. Had it for two days. I will try a gaming mouse maybe.
Before switching to another mouse, I'd recommend giving this one a bit more time.. I also didn't like it at first, but it grew on me.. Have a video on the topic, check it out if you're interested
Logitech has a Mac version of this model. I can't tell if it is the Mac version you experience problems with or not. But on Windows I did not have any problems so far.
I’m pretty sure scrolling on MacOS just sucks period. I’ve always had issues with it regardless of what noise you’re using.
I have this mouse in black… and use it on pc… I have to say… that the Mx master 3 is the best mouse I ever use… sure I don’t play games I use it for work…and I never have any issue with this mouse and the battery duration is something incredible I don’t know what kind of black magic uses Logitech but his batteries goes for more than a month without recharging… for me it’s the best mouse this one and the Logitech Mx vertical are the best mouse I ever have
I had one of this and I can confirm, it is overrated. They advertise the wheel as being something life changer but as you said, it's HORRIBLE. You expect it to be as responsive as a trackpad but you can't control it precisely. So you have to only use the normal mode, which is the same as any other productivity mouse. The fact that it has a low polling rate (125hz) is also very bad, specially when used with a high fps monitor, like 165hz or higher.
Finally someone mentioned terrible scroll skipping
lmfao, i was just looking at buying this exact mouse. thanks for putting me off :)))))
Xd no problem, thanks for watching
They gave me the mx master 2s at work and the weight is really excessive, I'm used to 70/80 gram mice and this one weighs twice as much