The Best Ergonomic Mouse? Razer Pro Click VS Logitech MX Master 3
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2020
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What's up Ahntourage? Today we're looking at the new Razer Pro Click, which is Razer's attempt to compete in the home office ergonomic setup space. They co-designed this with Human Scale. At $100, how does it compare to the well received Logitech MX Master 3? I put them head to head in this review and there is one clear winner. Let's get Ahnest!
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couldn't agree more.
Reading this in 2022 💩
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awesome video mate, also gotta give props for giving a warning before you came back when you were doing the sound test instead of deafening us lol
Very cool you mention the scroll issue! I feel the same about it like you do, then bottled it.
Great review! Thanks for mentioning the scroll issue. It's bizzare how rarely it's brought up. I got MX Master 3s mouse 2 days ago, without knowing about the wheel issue and having read only positive opinions about it and the first thing I noticed was the imprecise scrolling. I tried 2 days to get to love this mouse but I just can't, I am gonna return it soon.
Dude. I got a 3s as well and was about to make a video bashing it. Using it on Mac is a HUGE PIA as well
I've been using my MX2 and after a year the scroll just conked out. If I knew there was this ongoing problem for years I wouldn't have bought it. However, it's an incredible mouse for productivity.
Same here. I am using MX Master 3S with my mac m1 pro,
1-Lag issue
2-Scrolling is awful. Especially on some apps, it's just stopping working.
I am not recommending this 3S Mac version to anyone, please do your search and get a decent mouse. Yes, it's so ergonomic but it's not enough to give 100$
Anyone has a suggestion to buy a new mouse?
@@berkaybingol6792It’s probably really late for suggestions but I’ve been using elecom mice for years now and they’re the best one I could find. Everything comes in multiple size and there’s no lag. I do a lot of CAD and 3D work and definitely recommend them.
Every left-handed person I know uses their mice with the right hand. Just so you know :)
Oh sorry for my ignorance....for some reason, I thought left handed mice existed...
@@Ahnestly some people do but it’s very very very rare
@@Ahnestly they do exist but they're not comfy at all
I had a math teacher that used his mice with the left hand, it was weird to see his work layout
ps. he also ran windows on a macbook, that kinda guy
I’m a leftie and use my right
Thank you for this excellent review. Not just mentioning the scroll wheel but also the right side/pinky space on the MX Master 3. I just went to Best Buy today to try it out and it just didn't feel right, and this is exactly why.
Great comparison, thanks for sharing! I bought the Logitech MX Master 3 Mouse two weeks ago and I'm still very happy with it (the best I've ever had)! :)
Nice!
7:57 I don't know if Logitech updated the software after the release of this video or if you didn't checked it, but you can customise the scroll button in Logitech options.
I was debating between these two mice, and this video helped me to decide. Thanks for posting it.
Of course! Thanks for watching!!
What a SUPERB review. You covered ALL the points so clearly. Subbed. Thank you so much.
Thank you for the kind words!!
Great review, thanks! Appreciate the ahnesty.
FINALLY someone who knows how to spell
I love the battery life on Razer Pro Click... still on the same first full charge when mine arrived nearly a month ago :)
Yeah the battery life isn't bad at all!
when it works... battery life is misleading. i had mine say full for 2 weeks then just died.
Great video, just a heads up but the mode shift button (below the scroll wheel) is customizable ( have mine running a macro)
The thumb button is a potential point of failure that significantly reduces the lifetime of the MX master. It was an issue for both my OG MX and MX 2, and it getting stuck basically freezes all functionality.
This is literally the first time i scrolled from the top of the comments to the very bottom 💀 The comments in this video are really useful tbh, and this review video is also very *ahnest,* it tells just about everything i need to know about this mouse. Good review man, Imma check ur other vids now
~now im starting to think again if i should get the mx master 3 or nah~
Think it every video, but man you deserve so much more traction. And you'll get it, no doubt. Still have an original mx master, love the productivity features of it. Now just need a white one to match my razer 15 white mercury and yamaha hs5 setup.
I appreciate that a lot!!! Seriously!
I appreciate that someone with small-to-medium sized hands is doing mouse reviews and stating it in the review, so we can have a point of reference. I just bought and returned an MX Master 3 (despite getting a really good deal on it) because it was way too high for my hand to rest on it comfortably.
Totally agree with you about the scroll wheel.. By your video am I correct to understand the MX2s doesn't have the scroll issues?
Hi There, thanks for the video. You have actually answered the question which i was looking for in MX3 "PRECISION" now i am looking for G900 but it expensive than MX3. Can you suggest another options with the same precision? Thanks
Good review from the final user point of view, I have my doubs about MXM3 ergonomics, but after you video I think is meant to force the wrist to keep aligned with the hand and not rest it in the table as an ordinary mouse.
Ideally in an ergonomic sense your arm shouldn't be on the table but supported by the arm rests of your chair. The more horizontal/level your arm (and lined up wrist) the better. (While maintaining the 'proper' sitting position)
Your wrist should usually be lined up with your arm (neutral wrist position) especially over longer time periods. Any mouse that doesn't encourage this position just don't use.
Size and weight is also important and varies depending on the user (as well as use) and need to be considered!
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Awesome, thanks for the great review!
You're very welcome! Thanks for taking the time to leave a kind comment!
Awesome video, i'm still on the G700/s, got a few. I can't change because I absolutely love the shape and side button config, which is so underrated imo. The shape of the buttons have a peak so you make minimal contact with them, like they aren't even there.
The razer click is just their first attempt at grabbing the mx master market, not even subtly. Hopefully they improve with the next versions.
The g700 looks like my hand would be getting manhandled with taht crazy button setup! I'd love to try it! I realize that with more buttons, the less I use them...I always think I'll use them, but then never do. I rarely even use the thumb button on the MX3!
Pretty hard to find G700/s these days but if you like this kind of shape, worth looking for.
It took me well over a year before I fully utilised all the buttons on my G700s. What makes it so good imo - having next/previous tab as well as back/forward. Makes browsing so much easier.
These days mice either have 2 side buttons or 10000. I just want 4.
8:27 Those are pre-set profiles for 8 different and common apps. You can add your own apps and create your own profiles for those apps in the Logi Options software. Just something to note in your review
Correct! I thought I mentioned that. My bad!
@@Ahnestly all good man! I got my MX Master 3 for Mac today and ohhhhh boy I’m fallin’ in love 😂
thank you brother, i'm sold by that feature alone
great Video, really like the Comparison, going to stick to Logitech G900 series
I have the MX Master 3 and i love it. However where the place I work is really quite the clics are so loud lol. Even My coworkers say they can only hear my clics. So I have to say is a little bit noisy.
Cool, does this Razer have the amazing Hyperscroll of the Basilisk V3 Pro when the scroll wheel is in the infinite scroll mode?
Thank you.
I’m considering the MX3 for my MacBook Pro to replace Apple’s Magic Mouse. The Magic Mouse has TERRIBLE battery life (2xAA batteries) and a replacement would have to support side scrolling for Final Cut Pro X. Based on what I’ve seen on other videos, the MX3 does that. Also, I heard that the MX3 can use 3 different computer “profiles”, so you can easily use it on different machines.
All that is true :-)
Super attention to detail ... listening to the clicks made me subscribe!
I tried using the MX3 for a week and sadly will ship it back. My hands hurt like hell. Couldn't adapt to the ergonomics. Perhaps because my hands are simply not big enough. That being said, the features are just amazing. I might try the Razer Pro or simply get the Anywhere 3
Listen closely. I said the FASTEST pc possible using budget minded parts. Every time someone builds the fastest PC, they go balls to the wall on high end components that give little performance boost. I tried to build the fastest PC, but being a little more conscientious about what parts I used
What is/are the specific tech specification parameters you are refering to when you suggest gaming mice, notably their sensors, are better than those found in general/non-gaming mice? Worth sharing to better educate viewers and promote more a more technical , and thus defined and efficient research routine.
Brilliant good quality vid that earned u a sub. keep up the good work
Your profile picture creeps me out, but I still appreciate the really kind words!!!
10:30 That's not about quality control. You can spend $1,000 on the highest quality mouse pad, but if it's white, then it will discolor. And it's not about dirty hands or washing them regularly. That's just your palm constantly releasing oils. Oils + white don't mix. No amount of QC will ever fix that unless that material has some oleophobic coating, and even that will wear out. You can say the same about darker colors and blacks - the oils will make them glossy and shiny. I mean just look at your black keycaps.
It's not a knock on the company or the product, or how cheap the material is. If you ever buy white peripherals/accessories, just know that it will discolor, period.
all good points!
Great video! I just subscribed. I hope your channel grows and grows :) great review
I appreciate the sub!!! Thank you!!!
First video of yours I've watched and excellent review. Perhaps do a script prep for your video so you don't forget things lol. But otherwise good luck. I've subscribed and given you a thumbs up.
LOL I'm kind of crazy when it comes to recording...I'll procrastinate, procrastinate, procrastinate, and then be in the mood and just record. I script maybe 50% of the time!
Great comparison/video review! I have a Razer Deathadder 2013 and a Logitech MX3 - and it looks like Razer was trying to blend the look and feel of their gaming mice with some ergo features. Razer trying to be a 'master-of-none' here with tapping into the ergo-mouse world, but keeping it's gaming roots - which put it in a category that may not appeal to anyone...Ahnestly :p
The one major thing Razer still has going for it is the weight (even though I actually prefer the weight of MX3 for day-to-day projects) and its DPI adjuster/polling rate (which are much higher than the MX3 - which is capped at 90hz). Logi continues to hold down that professional mouse/ergo with the smart-shift, body shape and the 'mag-shift' wheel. I always miss it when I switch to my Razer mouse (wired)
Seriously the mag shift wheel is just...so good. I wish Logitech would give us a hybrid...and a white one. Then, my life would be complete
Returned MX3s and switched to wireless Deathadder, love this mouse. Razer Pro Click is a strange but usable mouse, and MX3 is just a good-looking accessory.
Thanks for an in-depth review of production mouse. Not everyone is looking for a game toy
Very nice video, helped me pick the better mouse. Subbed!
Thank you and glad it helped!!!
Even with large hands, your comment is accurate that the MX3 feels like your hand is taking a ride vs. being in control. I found the overall position of the MX3 unnatural and I had constant issues with accidental right clicking due to the slope and low resistance from the buttons. The tiniest amount of pressure to hold or move the mouse would result in unintended right clicks. I decided to return it and now I'm back to the drawing board looking for a new mouse.
All this is true for MX3s. Issues with scroll wheel, accidental clicking. Can't say better - it feels like your hand is taking a ride and claw grip is very uncomfortable, even painful.
have you tried g604? from the reviews it looks quite beautiful and ergonomic for a gaming mouse, not too gamey and has infinite scroll with lightspeed connection too. i'm hesitating between g604/mxm3/mxm2s
I just bought the 604 and I’m an RTS gamer but it does feel so much better than my previous mice
I have used the grey mx master 3, and I can tell you it too gets 'brown' spots with much use. Tried cleaning it with soap and also alcohol, but it doesn't help. Probably getting the black version is a good idea.
I have MX master 2 white version and the problem is worse. Definitely get a black version!!!
mx3 can be impressively smooth with some pressure, but the wheel is really making me a little bit sick when using it to zoom in and zoom out, also, the side wheel and the hand button is not easy to reach, still waiting for pro click to see if it can do a better job
Is your logitech G900 develops this double click issues.? I've heard that this is really common for this mouse, even the logitech g903.
the best review about this mause I've ever saw, practical and realistic
I saw someone somewhere saying there was something you can disable in the software that would fix the half scroll issue, I’m supposed to be getting the mouse in a few days so I’ll see if I can find it in the software.
Did you fix it? I’m getting one soon too.
People say it's the smart scroll option under pointers
Sadly nothing fixed the issue for me. I returned my MX Master 3. Couldn't get used to missed/inconsistent multi-line scrolls. Very disappointing.
Very informative!
The MxMaster 2S wore out where my fingers made contact (left & right button) it was annoying. I am considering going back from Razer to Logitech (to the 3) but I'd like to know the durability of those 2 buttons.
Interesting!
Do you see any yellow tint on MX3 after using it some months?
@Ahnestly We're in April, 2022 so may I ask has the scroll issue been fixed on the MX Master 3 now?
Hm I don't use it that much these days...anyone in the comments section have any thoughts?
Can you cross use ipad pro and desktop microsoft transitions work with the Logitech mouse?
Dude I can't agree more that if the mx 3 didn't have that skipping / not registering precision scroll issue, it'd be perfect... But it drove me crazy and I ultimately ended up returning it
SERIOUSLY!!! Even now, I get so frustrated,
Yall is that still an issue? Could it be a software thing?
@@KokurenHunters I just read on reddit that disabling "smart scrolling" in the Logitech Settings app fixes the issue
@@filipchillip1620 thanks i later heard about that and as i purchased it i immediately removed it and never had an issue. 🙏
@@KokurenHunters so does the problem has solution? If so why does everyone say that the mouse isn’t worth it because of that problem? I don’t get it … I’m also thinking about buying this mouse so I hope you can give me your opinion
It doesn't only support a few major apps, you can add any app you want. There are only presets for the big apps but you can set your own.
what mouse
@@thomasharman6578 mx master 3
Hi please notice meee! Is the middle button of the Razer Pro Click hard to press or not? Really appreciate your reply 'coz I'm planning to buy one. Thanks!
Noticed! It was really easy to click!
11:18 finally a reviewer that points out a common flaw in the device everyone gets. Why do they always ignore these stuff?
Thank you for bringing up these two problems... I thought the scroll wheel and sensor issue was just me with all of the youtube hype!
CZcams hype...the worst! lol
Hi, my g700s just died, so I am on a quest of finding a new mouse. This time I am looking for a clean design in white - similar to Razor Pro Click. I am a CAD software user, and I am jumping (a lot) between different apps so having multiple profiles (that can be stored in the internal memory) and programmable buttons is essential for me. I also love speed scroll feature - is there anything similar in the market?
Unfortunately, none that I know of!
FIY MX master has such a great battery life because its polling rate is just at 125Hz. Plus there are complaints/remarks about scroll precision.
Yup mentioned that on the video!
i'd say the 1000 Hz polling rate on the pro click is an advantage too (two years after you posted this haha)
Just learned something new about my MX Master 3, I really didn't like the default mouse scroll, but I now have it enabled to the smoother feeling wheel using the infinite scroll
Thanks!
Good points on the mousepad discoloration & the lack of white option for the MX mouse due to lots of MX2 owners voicing their concerns about color discoloration...TLDR: don't feel bad of the lack of white option...the mid grey works!
the black mx m3 also stains badly
Can you still use these for gaming?
Does Pro Click also feature a thumb button or not?
3:30 - pro click uses razer's 5G sensor, which is a top gaming sensor
Oof you're totally right! I didn't see the Pro Click on the list of the mice with their most advanced sensor (www.razer.com/campaigns/razer-5g-advanced-optical-sensor), so didn't think it had the same sensor!
@@Ahnestly Yeah, looks like they haven't updated that page forever. Razer Viper and Basillisk Hyperspeed use the same sensor as well.
thats so odd. I have that same issue with the mx master 3. still like this mouse a lot though
My first high end mouse I had was the MX 2 from Logitech. It lasted less than a year. The track system failed. In was under warranty so they sent me another one. Same issue happened after a year (programmed obsolescence in its best). After that I bought a G502 and the right click started to get stuck in less than a year. I could be super unlocky but no more Logitech mice for me
Ouch!!
I also have the scrolling issue for MX Master 3. I don't think it is a small flaw, because the mouse does not scroll based on my control. Due to that flaw, I don't think MX Master 3 is a comparable product to any mouse on the market.
its the reason i returned it, the scroll wheel has a lot of QA problems.
I certainly hope to see other mouse producing companies to copy features of the MX Master 3/3s. Its such a great mouse, but the only thing i hate is the software, for some reason, and nothing did help even til now, the software just doesnt work right for me. I always get an error message when shutting down my pc and although i use logi bolt, it never out right connects to the mouse. Everytime i need to troubleshoot it myself to get it working, so for now i resort to open source software. Again, the mouse is good, its just sad that the software doesnt work as intendet on my device.
I’m having issues with the MX Master 3 scroll wheel in ratchet mode. It sounds quite ratchety, which I think it’s not supposed to. Is yours like that? I also have an MX Anywhere 3, and it’s completely silent even in ratchet mode.
Not at all, see my sound test. that's as loud as it gets
Hmmm...isn't Razers 5G optical sensor a gaming sensor? It's the same sensor that they use on the Mamba Elite, Mamba Wireless, Deathadder Elite, and the Orochi V2 which has become my main mouse over my Razer Viper Ultimate.
You are correct! It wasn't market d very well so I made that mistake!
The MX 3 is *the* mouse. I just love using it when working on codes
Hi I'm a frontend developer, I recently bought a MX 3 but the scroll wheel on free mode or normal mode, is driving me crazy, does it take sometime to adapt to it? Does that happen to you?
@@carlosalfredo657 Planning to buy MX 3. What is the issue you are having on the scroll wheel?
@@wattheshet I have it for a month now. No problems with the wheel but it take some time to get use to it. Right now my only problem is the mouse weight, I’m still getting use to it. It feels like 50% heavier than my Razer mouse.
My hand is almost 7" long, I have been using the MX Master 3 for 10 months now and still don't feel used to it, mos of the time my hand and wrist hurt, then I have to switch to another smaller mouse. Another issue it's weight, this mouse is heavy. Because of this, I gave a chance to the M720 Triathlon to use it at the office and it's way far more comfortable. I wish Logitech makes an upgrade of the M720 with the same scrolls that MX Master 3 has, the feeling with magnetic scroll is fantastic but it's ruined with the bad ergonomics for small hands. I feel I haven't enjoyed the money I spent in this mouse.This a really honest review. My hand is almost 7" long, I have been using the MX Master 3 for 10 months now and still don't feel used to it, mos of the time my hand and wrist hurt, then I have to switch to another smaller mouse. Another issue it's weight, this mouse is heavy. Because of this, I gave a chance to the M720 Triathlon to use it at the office and it's way far more comfortable. I wish Logitech makes an upgrade of the M720 with the same scrolls that MX Master 3 has, the feeling with magnetic scroll is fantastic but it's ruined with the bad ergonomics for small hands. I feel I haven't enjoyed the money I spent in this mouse.
@@carlosalfredo657 yeah I had some "issues" at first with the scroll wheel, but it took me 1 week to get used to it!
For several days I tried to get used to the Master MX3, no luck. Too big for my 18cm hand and claw grip. The scroll wheel is too far and the mouse is too high. Also the scroll wheel has issues when scrolling up.
Using MX Master 3 for a month, this review nails it. (My old mouse is a G9 mouse)
- the scroll wheel is not good, its like building an ABS in your mouse, very bad when you want to stop, it still give a half scroll on the page with reduce speed. This happen to both magspeed setting.
- the scroll is very loose, you may end up many accident extra zoom in/out on apps. You thought the wheel has stop, but its still scrolling. So after you scroll, type in a command in an app, then the app or other app register an extra command cause the spinning is still happening.
- The scroll wheel is too large in radius, the travel distant from right click to middle wheel feels uncomfortable ( if you have small hand or used to small travel distant). Second reason is the right click button is sliding down in design, making the wheel have a big gap from the click button.
- IF you want precisian, not the mouse for you. My very old G9 is better that this. (not gaming)
Planning to buy a new mouse,
- ergonomic shape, price around this range, infinite scroll, good drag/dpi response.
I feel like we are finding that perfect mouse but there is non?
Thanks for the kind words!
Having the same issue...I think there is none. I was quite amazed by it actually. I think I have to go for the g604 which is lacking ergonomic design and is not rechargeable. This is hilarious! You basically got an infinite market of wealthy programmers and nobody is pitching.
Man you nailed it! Im not satisfied with the mx3 for all the reasons above. Do you any recommendations?
you can try Corsair Ironclaw
My issue with the MX3 is that the scroll wheel is very unstable (tilts a bit to the right ) and hard to click on...However, it also happens to be the thing I love about this mouse which is the Magspeed, honestly, I have the wheel UNLOCK all the time, it's just my lifestyle now, fast scrolling everywhere anytime BUT become less precise, raising the finger to click the wheel sometimes makes a fake scroll and I can also scroll if you move the mouse in the air, it also makes a sound, that's when you change the wheel to lock... even so, I would not go back to a mouse without this feature, silent ultra-fast scrolling is the best, hope the wheel gets better on the MX4 someday!
YOU SPEAKEDETH THE TRUTH!!!! I LOVE my G900 because of the magspeed feature. I love that the MX3 is silent, but the skip scroll is SO frustrating...
Regarding the mxmaster scrolling: try disabling smooth scrolling on the logi options software.
I believe I have and still issue persists
The MX Master 3 scroll does take some time to get used to it.
Would small hands fit the Razer Pro Click mouse? I can't really find anything specific on it, my hands fit the "small" category on Razer's website.
Hey Penelope, my motto is always try it and if it doesn't work out, razer has a 15 day return policy with money back minus shipping or you could use like amazon or best buy to get a full refund! It is definitely going to feel odd for someone with small hands though because the mouse is a bit larger than a lot of mice out there
problem is logitech style mouse is that, its heavy and requires a claw grip, i like little bit flat and lighter version, cz it keeps my hand flat and allows me to use to more comfortably over time.
My problem with the Razer Pro Click Is that aside from ergonomics, you aren't really getting much more than say the Basilisk (which is also quite ergonomic) or any other gaming mouse. With the Logitech Mx Master's you really are getting a productivity focused mouse with a bunch of extra features. So I feel like if you are looking for a producitivity mouse, go with the Mx Master 3 and if you don't really need those features, just go for a wireless gaming mouse like the Viper Ultimate, Deathadder V2 Pro, or even Basilisk if you really want the ergonomics. Also, make sure you actually try an ambi mouse before just going for the ergo one. I used to think ergo was the best, but my viper mini I've been using (despite myself having bigger hands) is very comfortable to use.
Agreed, the new basilisk v3 is a better productivity mouse for 70$ and is objective better in every way, other than it is wired, but the cable is light.
I've tried ambidextrous mice before, and they are awful for ppl with large hands. An ergonomic mice is a necessity for me, otherwise my hand will hurt after a while.
what about the terrible refresh rate on a Logitech of 125 megahertz via bluetooth and wifi versus 1000 on a Razer?
@@Frosty_V0 I found the Razer mouse in the video for $70 on sale. Would that make it worth getting? Definitely prefer ergonomics, as I have larger hands, as well as wireless capabilities.
Thank you for mentioning the other tech reviewers lying about this mouse. I too purchased an MX Master 3 only to be thoroughly disappointed by the scroll wheel. Only after I knew the issue existed was I able to search and find that this was a common issue with the mouse, not just a one-off. None of the other tech reviews I watched mentioned this.
Seriously....not a single review mentioned it
I still don’t understand the problem with the scroll, I’m thinking about this mouse so if you could explain the problem I’d appreciate it, so I can get a decision wether I’m buying this or not.
Some people say that this problem has solution, what do you think about that?
@@emilioortega9487 Bought the mouse this weekend and I honestly don't quiet get the problem, personally I scroll just normally, without any issue the past days.
@@valeriacaissa4552 maybe it was a software problem and they fixed it ?? I’m only doubting about getting this mouse bc of the problem that people mention about
@@emilioortega9487 It sure may be, I encountered no issue so far. I wanted to test the mouse this week but I am already inclined to keep it, because it works really well. I think you should definitely try it, if you are interested.
You said that the sensors within these 2 mice doesn't compare with that from a "real" gaming mouse. The one from the Pro Click actually does. It's one of their best sensors to date and it can be found in a sleuth of their other "gaming" mice. The mouse itself has seen a lot of praise for its comfort of use and high quality feel. The only issue it seems to have is the proprietary micro-usb cable used for charging... that's a self kick in the nuts from Razer.
You're spot on about the sensor and that's my bad but Eh it's still incredibly basic for $100.
Amazing video. Just subbed.
Thank you so much!!!
Amazing editing
Thank you!!
Reviewers never seems to mention the serious issues with the Logitech MX master 3 (or in general Logitech for Mac OSX) when it comes to the accompanying software. If you look through Apple user forums you will see tons of complaints about how buggy that software is. I have had two Logitech high end mouses and both developed really weird issues with respect to Left Click funtions seemingly associated with the sofware.
With both mouses, when doing a leftg click and then attempting to drag an object, the cursor woud disconnect from the object momentarily and then reconnect on whatever the cursor came in contact with, or even worse, sometimes, the left click function would change completely, causing weird things to happen like scrolling the screen to another desktop, or trying to close another open app. If you were dragging a file from one folder to another in FInder and it happened, it would drop the file yuo were dragging into an unknown folder, and you'd have to do a system wide search to figure out which folder it was hiding it!
It was horrible! At first I thought it was mecnaical and the left click button was failing, but when I used a tester app, the click function was fine...until you started to drag the cursor and then it would disconnect for a second and then reconnect. It quickly becasme apparent the left click was working fine until you started to drag the cursor.
Uninstalling the software promptly fixed the issue for a while, but then even after unintsally the software, the problem would not go away! Logitech tech support claimed no knowledge of this when I contacted them, but it is very well known in the forums! That was back when I had a Logitech G700S. A year later when I decided to try the MX Master 2s, thinking it might use different software, the same issue developed after several months!
And now that I am upgrading to a MacBook Pro with M1 chip I am reading about all sorts of issues The MX-Master 3s is having with it! Logitech still claims no knowlege of ANY issues with the Master series, so I am done with Logittech...for ever! COnsdiering the exorbitant price of this mouse, I think buyers are entitled to software that works without issues, and alittle bit of honestly from Logitech on the flaws, instead of claiming all is fine!
And I also have to say that I am really annoyed with all the reviewers on CZcams touting this mouse as the "holy grail" completely overlooking the technical issues that are well documented in countless Apple user forums!
Reddit is also a chokeful of complaints regarding MX Master 3. Especially the jittery cursor that jumps around. For a $100 mouse that's pretty unacceptable. But whenever I see reviewer videos, tech youtubers, etc. they always praise the mouse and it's on every techtuber's desk. I'm considering the Pro Click as I hear it has lower latency. I'm working with 3D softwares with so many buttons and a slight nudge or jitter might end up a disaster, so cursor precision is a big deal for me.
Very good review !
Thank you so much!!!
what about the terrible refresh rate on a Logitech of 125 megahertz via bluetooth and wifi versus 1000 on a Razer? it's also very hard to click on the logitech middle click and the mouse itself is heavy
great points!
I just cant bring myself to bring a G900 to a corporate meeting
Oh I totally get that lol.
How come you didn't go with vertical mice? Anker and Logitech both have verical mice. It looks more ergo.
I don't find myself with that much wrist pain and didn't want to use something that had a huge learning curve. It was just a comparison of the 2 big brands ergonomic mice!
Does Razer Synapse 2 supports Razer Pro Click? I'm asking this since Synapse 3 is not yet supported in Mac.
I honestly can't recall...sorry!
very nice review!!!
Thanks Mike! Appreciate it!!!
why would people who draw need control over a cursor? I'd expect professionals who require drawing capabilities to have a basic drawing pad at least. and after watching this, sadly i'm gonna stick to my small but mighty M590.
still, great review that covers many of the details i've been curious about. subbed!
Hahaha thanks for the sub! Good point...I draw on microsoft paint all the time! I need my stick figures to be pristine!
Great review
Thank you!!
I wanted the MX master so bad.. but the 4000 dpi is just way too little, I have an 49 inch ultrawide, would kill my wrist going from one side to the other, so went with the Razer Pro Click
The DPI/CPI refers to the inch your mouse moves and how many pixels it interprets, not the distance you're moving on a screen. Unless you're using some insane resolution, you could crank up the mouse to 4000 dpi and probably be fine.
That started happening on my GProX x superlight.. thinking it maybe a windows thing
Thanks so much
razor pro click has the scroll wheel tilt, which is as default set to quick scroll. I ordered both and man that scroll wheel issue on the mx master 3 is the worst design mistake ever. I couldn't live it.
Seriously.
Logitech looks much cooler and futuristic . I guess Razor would have been more beautiful in some other color white really turns me off
Also man the scroll issue with the Master 3 is really serious . Thanks for that info buying the Master 2S
I hear a lot about the MX3 scroll issues - but have yet to run into it. From what I've seen it has most to do with the software rather than the hardware.
I think the scroll wheel is a hardware issue. There are tooooo many reports for it to be merely software.
Ahnestly I must have gotten lucky then :) No issues on Mac - although early software on PC (when I got it a couple months ago) had issues with the scroll not functioning at random moments)
I love my 2s but the side buttons are unusable, which is slightly annoying but I am just going to use this until it breaks
Yeah they are tucked pretty far back. The scroll wheel on my MX3 is so frustrating though...
you are right, the side buttons of my 2s dont work either, and I purchased 3s last week but the side buttons cannot be customized via bluetooth
My hands are big, also i am coding and playing game so much. Which mouse will be better for me ? Thanks for your advice. (I am using mac and windows thats why i need to connect 2 devices)
Both mice are pretty big - if you're going to be gaming with this mouse, definitely recommend the Razer, as it's got a better sensor than the logitech!
Hallelujah! Finally someone mentioning the abysmal scroll wheel issue on the Logitech. Yet I'm still using my MX3 as it's so much better than the previous ones. Are you still using it?
I got used over time to adjust my scrolling habits and get it much much less often - though it's still bugging me regularly.
The first MX was the best of the series and I've used it from launch until last year when it dug a hole (literally) inside the thumb rest from daily use.
Ugh I still hate mine for scrolling. I love my G900 over all mice....I wish Logitech would update this mouse. But everyone just wants stupid super light mice...
@@Ahnestly That's indeed a very precise mouse - As an animator, I loved it for this; ergonomics of the MX series make them more comfortable over long sessions for my hand at least... Still... Quite disappointing to be in 2021 and still not have a close to "perfect" mouse from any manufacturer.
great review
Thank you!!!
Do I have the only MX Master 3 mouse in existence that doesn't have this scrolling issue? I've sat here for 10 minutes scrolling trying to see if mine has that issue... I just bought mine though so maybe they fixed it?
It's def possible...mine annoys me so much...
I returned mine a couple of weeks ago because I need a gaming/productivity hybrid (I might get the pro click) but I remember that on bluetooth the half scroll did not happen anymore.
Really wish I've seen this review before buying my MX Master 3.
I really hope you keep making honest reviews. People need that. Is G900 still your mouse of choice?
My g900 suffered from double click on the back mouse button. I got a g pro ultra light recently and it is ridiculously light and I love it but I REALLY miss the free scroll feature. I wish logitcj would put that on a more updated gaming mouse.