Was Lewis Hamilton ROBBED? | The F1 Breakdown | Abu Dhabi GP
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- So the race started, and by the end turn 7 we had our first bit of controversy. Hamilton, again, got a blinder of a start, with Verstappen just not getting away well at all. And with Hamilton on the inside, he slipped into the lead quite easily.
Even though Verstappen’s start wasn’t great, his tyres were up to temperature quicker and he was looking quick in the first few corners. He got a great run out of the turn 4 hairpin and was in Hamilton’s slipstream.
By the end of the straight Verstappen was two or three car lengths behind the Hamilton at the braking zone - he didn’t look like he was in a position to try and make a move - and yet he did. But before we get into whether what happened was fair or not, it’s worth talking about Verstappen’s “jink and dive” technique - that’s not actually what people call it, it’s what’s going on. I think I’ll coin that one.
It’s where Verstappen - and other drivers - turn the car sharply just before a braking zone - and then brake. They then drive in a diagonal line down to the apex of the corner. It’s not the quickest racing line, but it’s great for overtaking because you can brake late and the diagonal route to the apex is shorter than the normal racing line - increasing the opportunity for an overtake.
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Ok, so Verstappen lunges Hamilton, but gets ahead by the apex. Lewis tries to turn in, but Max is already there. The two make very slight contact. Verstappen keeps it in the track, and Hamilton skirts across the runoff, keeping his position.
So let’s look at it from the perspective of each driver. First, Verstappen. He was on the softer tyre compared to Hamilton - on which he was supposed to get a better start and gap him over the first 15 laps. So, after the bad start, he needed to make a move quickly.
Verstappen’s championship position also meant he could be bolder with his wheel-tp-wheel racing. Plus, it’s Verstappen, who as we know absolutely sends it with any opportunity. There’s no doubt this was an aggressive move, but this time - as opposed to some of the other incidents we’ve seen this year, Verstappen managed to keep it on the track - within the white lines.
So, in my opinion, Verstappen make an aggressive move, but one that was completely legal. He did force Lewis of the track, but Lewis was on the outside and could have yielded earlier.
The way I like to think about racing is that as long as one driver doesn’t t-bone [add funny image] another, aggressive racing is ok. Maybe it’s because of my racing background, but I like aggressive racing and I accept it when someone does it to me.
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Pergio Serezez is the real goat
Who do you think deserved to take the win? Keep it nice, though!
*Goatifi
4:47 Pergio Serezez? Did you have a stroke?
VERSTAPPEN was the better driver with the better Team that day
@@phoenix1279 Undisputed GOAT
@@tight_cicadaBetter driver in Abu Dhabi? Get real
You could argue the whole season has been poorly managed from the stewards with so many inconsistencies.
True. It started at Silverstone.
@@sjoerdvanderschaaf1684 more like Bahrain
@@sjoerdvanderschaaf1684 Agree, Hamilton deserved a black flag instead of 10secs.
Yep. This is the real issue here, not the decisions made in the last race, but ALL decisions made. We got some poor stewarding this season... Also regarding the late SC in abu Dhabi, Masi is in a way right, that the teams agreed to not end a race under SC and he is also right that the lapped cars are usually requested to overtake. What he did wrong though is to wait that long for it to happen. So instead of telling them to hold position he should've let them unlap themselves in the first place. Would've saved us a lot of discussion and probably the protest by Mercedes.
@@sjoerdvanderschaaf1684 it started in Austria, let's ne honest...
A point that seems to be missed is that positions 3,4 & 5 all had lapped cars between them, which makes it seem that their finishing positions were unimportant & didn't matter.
Masi doesn't want the season to end on a safety car lap...he want to put a great show. He succeeded! It's unfair but very good show and people are still talking about it....good for business...
Almost as if the rules are there for a reason.
@@shijuokphun1379 except this is a sport, not a show. Nothing against Max, he is a deserved winner of the championship but this should never happen again.
Thank you. I am glad someone else said it. It definitely seemed as though no other position in the field mattered. Absolute foolishness if you ask me.
It's a sport first and foremost. The "show" is a result of good racing which is held by the rules which define the sport.
The cockpit footage of Hamilton just sitting silently in his car for minutes trying to comprehend what had happen was truly tragic. Live or hate him, that was such a bad way to end the championship and you have to feel sorry for him.
No. After what he did in Silverstone, not even a speck of pity.
@@sairamr6886 ha ha, you mean when Max turned in on him and then Lewis checked he was ok before celebrating the win?
Or when Max walked away at Monza not even checking if Lewis was okay? “Every year there is a World champion but not a great champion”
Watching this one year later, after letting all the confusion go after this happened, just bring up everything I felt when watching the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP. Damn LH was completely robbed.
Yeah absolutely. Total disgrace. Incredible the FIA have since admitted they screwed it up and made a mistake, yet they won't change the result. Shocking.
I thought the best solution would have been to redflag it and than let them restart for 6 final laps. That way it wouldn't have been as controversial, but still safe for the marshals and the race wouldn't have ended under sc which nobody wanted.
Exactly what i was thinking but also have a one shot quali so its really fair with also maybe also let just max and lewis fight it out on track
I thought the exact same thing
By that logic.. what about first lap abu dhabi, saudi fp mazepin issue, bahrain track limits for >10 laps where he was allowed to gain up to 3 seconds and then everyone wasn't.. silverstone shit rules.. take your enemy out and go on to be allowed to win! 😂🤣😅 talk about bias.. and tunnell view!
Oh look, races can end behind a safety car now ! 🤣
@@ok-dy2tz sore loser! Get over it! Ham was pushed to have a chance until the last race and you.re still making a big fuss about it?
You forgot to mention Verstappen pitted again for softs during the SC. Kind of a key factor in his ability to get past.
I agree
Yeah I was surprised he didn't mention this. That's basically what decided the championship. Had Lewis also been on fresh softs for a one lap shoot out it would have been fine, but the decisions Masi made essentially gifted the WDC to Max.
Or the vsc before that toto lobbied for no safety car. Could have pitted Hamilton then.... Track position shouldn't have been a issue with the pace of the Benz.
@@robertanthony5568 I agree they should have pitted, Hamilton clearly had the faster car and would have been able to pass Max, although I understand they were probably hesitant on even needing to try to pass Max because of how aggressive his defending has been.
Yeah, the problem with youtubers like Driver 61 is that they are auditioning to be part of 'the show', so they won't clearly call out what happened for the blatant fix it was. It was a great season but Masi shat on it at the end so it will always stink.
The stakes were too high for such a rule bend by the F1 officials
No rules were bent
@@richardcevat167 restarting rules were broken, let alone bent. That's from a ferrari fan who didn't sided either with hamilton or verstappen, and a brazilian who didn't think senna deserved his trophy for crashing prost, or piquet using water-coled brakes (now that WAS bending the rules). Stop being a fanboy man. Rules exist for a reason, is the integrity of the sport on the line now.
@@davifernandeslima01 penalties on hamilton i suppose dont exist on your rulebook huh?
@@kostasKazama So you just randomly make that assumptionn?
For the entire race though, right.?
Why are people forgetting what happened on the first lap and the first 2 safety car situations..??
Merc tried to have the rules changed in their favour during the race - - 3 times..!!
Not my Opinion,, the Audio has been released.. Go Listen to the entire race’s FIA audio, and you will know the sweet taste of the truth..
MERC got what they deserved..!! PERIOD..!!
Such a shame it ended the way it did. A red flag and a restart with 6 laps to go would've been right. Massi already agreed he wouldn't do this before the race. If he could change his mind about lapped traffic with 2 laps to go, then he could've changed his mind about the red flag.
@@user-jh2ts2eb4q that's bullshit. You sound like a driver fan, rather than a sport fan. That was a against the fia own rules. It was made up for entertainment.
@@user-jh2ts2eb4q No, Masi vowed to not have the race end behind the safety car. You seem to be up your ass with your selective opinions and memory and blurting them all over the internet like you have any idea on what the situation was at the time and think you have any sort of 'knowledge' of F1 at all.
@@user-jh2ts2eb4q Oh my days people like who don't care about the sport only if max wins you happy and if its down by breaking the rules you happy
@@weallfollowmanutd its not bs it was literally an agreement made by the teams and fia
@@rolef6084 an agreement? Lol when did the teams agree to a new rule on the fly?
Inconsistent FIA decisions and problem management has been the only consistent thing this year.
It has been like that for a while tho. Its just that this year, the comms with the FIA/team makes it very apparent.
Given all of the arguments on all (three) sides of the fence, I think what would have played out fairly in everyone's book is if they had red-flagged the race immediately when Latifi crashed, instead of wasting laps under a safety car, prompting the full grid back to the pits in their race positions. It would have neutralised danger on track immediately, which was Michael Masi's first argument back to the teams. Everyone would be allowed to put on fresh tyres, and then a mad (but equal) four lap dash to the championship. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, and I am a Verstappen fan, but I think a championship end like that would have been more conclusive or decisive, with the same amount of thrill for the fans.
Yeah but that wasn't Masi's intention at all. He wanted a final lap with a guaranteed winner... Red flag was a possibility but that would mean we would actually see a race.
@@pv12345 💯💯💯
I get not wanting to finish under safety car, but they should do whatever their procedures dictate. If this was any other race they would have been ok with finishing under safety car, so that is probably what they should have done. I remember previous races where the safety car came in on the final lap and they just drove over the line. The timing of this accident wasn't great and I get that's not an exciting way to end the final race of the season, but this isn't Nascar. F1 used to follow the rules and not make random decisions just to make it more exciting.
So true and you can't help but feel sorry for Hamilton given just last week they red flagged Jeddah to give Verstappen the lead with fresh set of tires when Hamilton pitted during a safety car.
Why even have a race then? LH dominated the whole race and was ahead by 11+ seconds only to have them erase the whole race and have a one lap race where one car has a huge and unfair advantage over the other. Insane
one more thing that wasn't mentioned was the fact that even after Perez held Hamilton so Max could close a 7 second gap Lewis still pulled away to create a 12 second gap which was anulled by the safety car, ngl the more I look at it the more it gets clear how much of a robbery this race was, sad for Hamilton
also Sainz could've battled Max if all lapped cars were allowed to go, making it unfair for Sainz as well
If Toto hadn't told his boys to knock Max out a few times, Max would be WDC before Brazil. Masi helped LULU 9/10 times in 2021. The last time he TRIED to help LULU Masi remembered the instructions from MERCEDES to NOT end the (final) race under yellow flags! That was the ONLY mistake Masi made for Mercedes , that's why he was sacrificed by the FIA as a RD. Now stop crying you pathetic Sissie.
it's really controversial but the thing is Lewis couldn't pit for new tyres bec the safety car crashed which was by latifi who is obviously driving the sister car of Mercedes. If it had been any other driver with any other car, it would be plain robbery but the fact that it was latifi who drove a merc just makes it a bit better
@@smitadas2336 I dont see your reasoning as to how that makes it better. Williams is independent of Mercedes. Its not like Merc told Williams to crash lol. And on top of that, they are just an engine supplier, they have no say in team dynamics or connection to Mercedes. If it was an Alpha it would have been really bad and worth investigating, but it doesnt make it any better. Goatifi crashed, same as if an Alpha, Aston, or a McLaren crashed imo.
@@Amm17ar crazy Verstappen fan trying to spin some BS that Mercedes were trying to fix the race.
@@davepastern I know ffs.....he called Williams Mercedes "sister" car..... Dunno where these people come from.
Looking back on it. They basically paused the race and put Max right behind Lewis on new tyres. Actually crazy unfair and I wanted red bull to win at the time
It drove me away from the sport. I no longer watch F1. As good as Max was that year, he will forever have that asterisk next to his first title win and that unfair on him as well.
@@corneliussmiff2773 for real, i don't get how any real max fan can ignore this. It was a manufactured win. Hamilton was literally driving away with the championship after a great late season resurgence... but that fool Masi just had to go and fuck it up (from proper naggin by Horner the unfaithful twat).
@Corneliu Smiff the FIA basically made max win the race
@@corneliussmiff2773 What asterisk lol😂😂😂😂.
Quit crying😂
@@tubularcandy812Not crying. Stating an immutable fact. Max has an asterisk against his first title win, which isn't his fault.
The primary issue here is the apparent inconsistency/ application of the rules, across the F1 season.
I strongly agree with this. And though I am a real Max fan the end of the show this year was fairly typical of all the FIA failures; count them and maybe it is not Max who in the only aggressor here.
@@rharting3688 Michael Masi has to be the worst racing director. Honestly. He put himself in a position where he had to gift the championship to somebody. He couldve very clearly let cars unlap themselves in lap 55 but missed it. If he didnt let them unlap themselves for no reason he wouldve gifted it to hamilton.
This shouldnt undermine Maxs title tho. He earned that.
@@5bagsofpopcorn We all just got Masied
Amen...Its like they make it up as they go sometimes...this season was horrible the way it was run my Masi and the FiA.
10 wins, 10 poles, 18 podiums, 652 laps led, 3 races ruined through no fault of his own, 🥈 best car. Mercedes had 3 chances to pit, yet they very consciously chose track position over fresh tires. Ironically Mercedes has been given (way) more handouts by the FiA than RB this season, even earlier in the race Lewis was gifted a free advantage, and look who is crying. Max is the worthy champion, if it wasn’t for his bad luck he would have won 2-3 races ago.
There was enough time for all the backmarkers to pass, but for some weird reason the stewards had initially decided not to do so. It took them another lap to make the final decision to let the cars between Hamilton and Verstappen go. In my opinion, they should have let all the backmarkers pass in the first chance they had as the track was clear already.
That was masi, it was his decision and I agree with you by lap 56 the call should’ve been made immediately and pretty much the same outcome but not such a blatant disregard for the rules which does leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouths. Let some cars lap and not others was wrong.
EXACTLY! If you listen to Alonso (super funny) or Vettel on the radio on lap 56 they both are confused to as why they are not allowed through on that lap.
Alonso clearly implies that they are purposely keeping them between Ham & Ver to give the title to Ham.
@@mcl2584 yeah the radio between Masi and Horner really showed how Masi had no excuse not to let the backmarkers go. Its a shame the championship decisive race was poorly handled by the FIA.
Exactly!!! He failed to state that on lap 56 all cars could unlap, then SC could do a complete lap on 57 and have a full face on 58. There was time and this is key!
I agree they should have, but I don’t know in what way that would have changed the outcome, Max would have passed Lewis on the last lap nontheless
It would have been amazing if there was a red flag for latifis crash so both Hamilton and Verstapen would have had a few laps to battle on softs
W
Thats not a red flag worthy crash hamilton fans are so delusional
@@DavidsSanityThat 2021 WDC by Verstappen isnt legit too. Delusional Verstappen fans.
@@DavidsSanity stupid comment. after masi threw the rulebook out the window, who cares how big of a crash it was? if the desired outcome is to avoid a safety car finish and create instead a final lap shootout even if it means breaking the rules the only fair way is having a full reset. what masi actually did is basically put verstappen and hamilton next to each other while verstappen had maximum tyre advantage which makes no sense because it is in no way a fair fight.
@@DavidsSanityremember the time max touched Lewis car 😂
Hamilton vs Verstappen in 2021 was bound to end in controversy. All season they both made questionable moves on each other it was garaunteed to end in big drama. I think it was more the big heads in F1 wanted to see some big drama to get people following the sport in the future
Im thankful the drama happened, it got me into the sport 😂
It got me to stop watching 😂
@@jajabinxxxHDSame
Got me to stop
this drama got me into the sport lol
It made massive news all over the world, it was exciting watching the few previous seasons of the build up to that year@@Danish_Khan1021
The way Perez slowed Hamilton down with an extremely clean racing approach was just brilliant 😂😂
Something that max can’t do
DaNgErOuS DrIv1Ng!
His car was underfueled
@@stellar6643 Wrong! if he was underfueled ( and he wasn't by the way ) it would have only been by 2 or 3 laps of fuel. That makes no sense. May be under fuel by 25 laps so he can be quicker in the first half of the race ( which he wasn't by the way ). You probably think Ham should have pitted under the SC as well.
"THATS SOME DANGEROUS DRIVING MAN" moaning git
That defense from Perez was one of the best defenses I’ve ever seen. It was probably one of the best of the year along with Alonso’s defense of Hamilton earlier in the year
he was under fuelled.. so he could block LH.. retired early.. fully working car and a surprised driver. just my guess..
To defend like that with DRS especially was monstrously good. Perez is a stud.
That was the best part of the race for me. Great fair racing
@N J Roads are still narrow because todays F1 cars take more space than those in Senna's day.
It really was. Such a shame he couldn't finish due to a suspected PU issue. Would've deserved that podium without a doubt.
Max did not take Lewis by surprise on that final lap. He was on fresh soft tyres compared to the old hard tyres of Lewis. Mercedes and Lewis knew this would happen hence Toto going nuts at Michael Massy that it was not fair.
@@josepha5146 they should have pitted him you are right there. Would Hamilton of then won? I don't know but he did have the faster car on the day so possibly.
@@andrewspooner8146what do u mean if he pitted, did u even watch the race and hear marcedes radio, lewis was faster than max because of his medium tires as he is somewhat good with less grip tires with avg life span, what do u mean possibly the car was faster😂
The fact that they fired people because of this is a clear indication that what they did was 100% wrong.
Keep crying
@@LesChats1991 You're the one replying 9 months later...
@@FranciscoHOS5 min ago
@@FranciscoHOS So? Conclusion?
@@LesChats1991 Keep crying
I feel like leaving out the tyre difference on the final lap leaves out a lot of context on why Max passed Lewis. Fair play to Max, I don’t think anyone blames him for this but for this final lap showdown he had fresh soft tyres while Lewis had ~43 lap old hards. It was pretty much over as soon as Masi decided to let Max and Lewis start side by side. Mercedes rightly thought that the race would end under a safety car and kept Lewis out to keep track position while Max had nothing to lose with his late pit stop. If Lewis pitted under SC and Max stayed out to take 1st maybe things would have been reversed, who knows?
Max would've dived bombed down the inside from a 100 metres back and tried to take out Lewis
@@ND9HighlightsComps to Max's credit he drove a clean race, after last week I wasnt sure that would be the case.
@@planetdustbowl4825 It's difficult not to, when you're on your own 5 - 6 sec behind the leader.
Redbull was gonna stop for tires no matter what. Merc lost it for lewis by not stopping. Even lewis said we should have stopped. No way fia could finish the season under VSC. They would lose so many fans that way. If us the fans were told at the start that the drivers champ would come down to the last lap of the season. Who wouldnt take that?
I said it at the time but as soon as I heard the Mercedes’ radio telling Lewis to stay out under the vsc I was confused af.. seemed to me the perfect opportunity to cover any madness that might happen later on
Wouldn't it have made considerably more sense to red flag immediately after Latifis crash, and then do a grid start with everyone on fresh tires. At that point there would've been plenty of laps left for a fair race.
Red flags are finishers after %75 of the race complated, if I am not wrong.
@@lUnderdogl Then Baku shouldn't have happened.
@@lUnderdogl baku
I think Lewis should have won either way, he owned the race, red flag would have been to much for a small crash, if they stayed with not letting lapped cars through then Hamilton would have won, there wouldn’t of been a way for max to pass the back markers and Hamilton in a lap but if they did let all the back markers past the race would of come to an end under the safety car, which I’m sure the drivers wouldn’t like and neither do the fans but the crash happened at an awkward time and the FIA can’t just go against rules because it’d cause a dull end, can’t take anything from max he’s fast and had great races but he wasn’t even close to owning this race is any way, next year will be fun.
Hahaha👍🏻 I was just gonna say the very same. I've seen it done in MotoGP. They then would have had possibly 4 solid laps to dice it out fairly
in my opinion, they should have paused the laps when the SC was brought out. This way, all the lapped cars could have been brought back into position, and the race would eventually be resumed with 5 laps left to go, instead of 1.
yes but that is not allowed, in that case they should red flag the race, but they couldn't because to red flag the race there must be damage to the barriers that has to be repaired or a multiple car crash like in mugello 2020
Not possible in current F1 which has no refuelling during the race - what you propose would make people run out of fuel.
In normal F1 it would be a RED FLAG! End of race.
But LIberty wanted a HAIL MARY! for their investors and FIA just followed their bosses. Bernie Wouldnt have allowed this to happen.
@@alimantado373 Whoa there! I don't know what Bernie lives in your imaginary universe, but Bernie Ecclestone in the one you actually inhabit is the man who persuaded everyone (except Lauda) to start the 1976 Fuji race, and said about the 2021 Belgian GP:
“If I was at the back of the grid, I might decide it’s not worth the risk because it’s bloody dangerous out there. If I wanted to score points for the team and for myself, I might think I wanted to go ahead. People make their own minds up. [...] We have raced in worse conditions than that and not called off the race.”
Bernie would never have done anything that would damage the money or the spectacle. I know, grass is always greener on the other side and all that, but you've clearly picked the worst lawn possible to nostalgize over.
I get confused about the "leaving racing room" rule as there was a lot of inconsistency this year (Norris - Perez in Austria, Alonso - Raikkonen in Austin, Verstappen - Hamilton in Brazil). Did Max not just push Lewis off the track on lap 1 Abu Dhabi? Did he need to leave room there?
The funny thing is Lewis did the very same thing to Max in Saudi but was given a 5 sec penalty .
@@mrdude9671 I agree. It depends on where your bias lays as to who is in the wrong. I'd love someone to explain the rule better so I can be more impartial.
@@mrdude9671 He wasn't he was given a black and white flag
@@ND9HighlightsComps He eventually got a 5 second
@@mrdude9671 yea but max did it 5x more often
Mostly, I just feel for Sainz and the rest of the drivers behind. They showed complete contempt for any driver that wasn't Max or Lewis (so does most fans regarding this tbh). They only wanted a Max VS Lewis, might as well have taken the rest of the drivers off track. Completley neglecting that these drivers are also fighting for their own positions in WDC and WCC. I understand Max VS Lewis is the big event here, but the disrespect for the rest of the grid is appalling.
All year, Max and/or Lewis were 40 seconds or more ahead of the rest of the drivers. These two were in a separate league so I fully understand Masi did not take Sainz into account in this last lap
@@richardcevat167 Yeah, I do get that. But for me, not givning him an equal chance is really bordering staged/manufactured racing. I personally don’t think the FIA/Masi should be allowed to choose who gets to race and who doesn’t.
@@arletottens6349 True. According to Seb & Alonso, they could’ve and should’ve started the procedure earlier to get all cars unlapped. Not sure if that could’ve been done in a safe way, but they seem to believe so, and their combined judgement I’d value quite high. Though I think an Indycar-style Redflag might be the safest, fairest (and most entertaining) solution.
They should adjust the rules like in Nascar. No finish under yellow/double yellow or safetycar. Everything in order to get the white flag! That's the last lap! And if something happens. Another in order round. Another white flag! And go!
@@tp5050 Masi had to wait to get overlapped cars overtake because of the incident! At that point there where marshalls on the track! So he could not get the unlapped cars to overtake! That would have been too risky because unlapped cars go as fast as they can to try to get back at the pack! Masi first needed to clear the track. And safety of marshall before he could call it out! I've typed this already a hundred times. And get a little bit tired of it! Most of you dumbasses just don't know anything about racing and the rules! Masi overruled the rules by getting some cars out of the way! But he can! Because, ..... HE IS THE FUCKING REFEREE! And just didn't want to get this race ending behind a safetycar! IT'S CALLED MOTORRACING!
The whole season has been a mess from the FIA, I feel like they are trying to make the race more "fun" by giving penalties sometimes for no reason, or other way around. Also something we are seeing ALOT more starting from last season are red flags.
Big thing you missed is You forgot to mention Verstappen pitted again for softs during the SC. Kind of a key factor in his ability to get past since it wasn't a pure race then.
If you ask me. Part of the problem is the rule book, but the main problem is that the lead race steward is different every week. You don’t see this inconsistency in categories such as Supercars because they have 1 head steward for EVERY round. And hence the rules are always interpreted by the stewards consistently. One week it is Vitantonio Liuzzi, the next it is Derek Warwick, then whoever else puts their hand up.
Put 1 person to be the lead steward, the one that has the final say before decisions are made, and then you will find the majority of inconsistency will be gone.
If Bottas would continue driving a Mercedes, Toto would give him an order to watch the video of how Perez blocked Hamilton a hundred times.
Fact
Bottas can defend just as well. He is just sick of Mercedes.
Bottas blocked Max last week, its Mercedes’ own trick…
Toto cried like a baby and ruined his team ungratefully. He is a bad look for merc
@@soversaurus I don’t think so, he’s not that aggressive when it comes to wtw battles, I’ve never seen his defense skills being so good as Perez’s tbh
Happy to see Kimi get driver if the day, but Pergio Serez definitely deserves an honourable mention.
Perez was an absolute beast! I know the driver of the day vote was the fans showing Kimi respect, but what a drive from Perez. I hope RB actually gives him a chance to win a championship next year because he earned it.
I think everyone voted when Kimi had to retire early... then the battle went down, which was epic.
Perez was driver of the day hands down and we know Kimi could give 2 shits about driver of the day.
Serez is the MVD of the race.
😂 lol 😂 Liberty media, Netflix and Hollywood reality culture won doctored insider Job - entertainment over sporting integrity. All these maFIA silly inconsistencies of directive are very deliberate and max was handed a championship, white privilege, for white collar dealings 101. 24 hrs on where is Horner’s radio lobbing a directive which influenced this engineered outcome, we heard TOTOS, & yes echoes of let them race - influence strategy, imagine 10 sec lead wiped out, shady inconsistent decisions for teams to work on fair terms- tyres then 5 cars cleared for an unfair advantage of tyres. Despicable this is not motor sport racing it’s a fix, where is the fairness for Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes Benz who got mugged by unintended consequences. So millions of people confused and you think little of it, I pity the fool 💯#maFIA #lewisgotrobbed
the short answer is yes
Whew. I thought I was going to lose my bet, and you bailed me out by tossing in the "finite grip" phrase before the second minute. Thanks. Saved me 50 bucks.
The battle with Ham and Checo was the best racing of the entire Grand Prix. I really hope we see more stuff like that with the new cars in 2022. Max owes Checo, and Latifi some really nice Christmas gifts this year.
You know why? Because it was fair 100%. No weaving, no pushing off track, no blocking, just driving wheel to wheel
Wish we could have seen it from the two title contenders, all we see from max is crash or yield.
Max owes Perez nothing. It made no difference to the outcome whatsoever.
@@jameshoover492 bet you had a VERY bad day yesterday🤣🤣 get used to see MAX as the F1 Worldchampion the next years👌👌
Agree it was brilliant, hats off to Checo. Winning the championship on the last lap you gotra give driver of the day to Max, but in some ways you gotta feel Checo was actually driver of the day. He was like a feisty terrier!
Enforce track limits i.e. you suffer if you go off or cut corners. These “painted car park tracks” create many of these situations.
This. And the face that the drivers are allowed to drive with almost the whole car outside of the white lines. The track is between the lines plus the kerbs and cars should stay within this completely (read: with all four wheels). But the car parks (*cough France *cough) just allow for this.
I agree 100%. It will sort out all this nonsense once and for all! Id go as far as putting gravel traps everywhere and get rid of the painted run offs!
Agree......but I'd go further and put spikes on the kerbs ...that will teach 'em
@@Shoopadawhoopa Those are the rules in Gran Turismo. In real life the track ends at the white lines, though you wouldn't be able to figure it out from watching F1 without reading the rules.
Tarmac runoffs killed Antoine Hubert.
@@kidoctane and banana peels!
They had an opportunity to uncap all the lapped cars two laps earlier but they decided not to, when usually they would. So that’s where the controversy started at the end. And then they decided to unlap just the cars between LH and MV two laps later - so there would not have been any controversy if they had just unlapped the lap cars when they should have. So the controversy was from where they did not allow the lapped cars to unlap themselves two laps earlier.
I think it would set a dangerous precedent for overtaking from high speed straights into sharp corners. You could just send it up the inside and as long as you barely keep it on the white lines that's ok? I think it would encourage reckless moves up the inside too much. And that results in crashes where the leading car won't expect it.
not in control of the car at the apex (hence, it's understeering towards the outer side of the apex, pushing any competitor on the side further outwards). Should have been banned. Max was *never* in control of the car in any of his overtakes in 2021.
Shitty stewarding, F1 should be ashamed. Brake testing in Saudi Arabia? No punishment. Should have been a DSQ and race ban. Pushing Lewis deliberately off track at Sao Paolo? Should have been a 20 second stop go penalty.
The FIA is corrupt, that much is evident.
This channel is biased and anti-Hamilton. I long ago unsubscribed.
They really do need to need to stay consistent with the rules. I also think they need to limit the communication between team personal and Masi. I hate how Horner and Toto try to tell him how to run the race. Thanks to F1 broadcasting the messages between the teams and Masi we now know what kind of shit show this season really was.
That's what F1 has become - even more spectacle over sport than in the past, and it's always been more about spectacle than sport, just not to the current degree. That's why people losing their minds at the "injustice" of what happened at end is so funny. Was that the first F1 race you ever saw?
Agree. Only communication between the teams and Masi if Masi takes the initiative.
I was surprised that Toto was literally talking to Masi in realtime. NO MIKEY! NO NO NO! THIS ISN'T RIGHT!
@@Dani-it5sy as the face director he needs to be approachable by teams since teams can attend him to incidents and ask the stewards to review. He's the filter between team and stewards
You think F1 has even been any different? :P yeah sure Ferrari and Michael won 7 championships because he was the "best" xD F1 has always been about politics and money
The main thing I hope the FIA learns from this season is that the rules need to be clearer and the stewards need to be more consistent. And maybe there should be some real rule changes to prevent situations that happened this season, or had a very real chance of happening. To name a few:
- The red flag situations where drivers are allowed to change tires, repair demage, etc. without any penalties. This allowed Verstappen to change to new tires in Jeddah without losing a position or time and it allowed Hamilton in Imola to repair his front wing while still restarting from position 9 rather than the back of the grid.
- Finish under or one lap after the safety car. It's clear (and was long before this race in Abu Dhabi) that the FIA doesn't want races, let alone finales, to end behind the safety car. All good and well, but there is no rule to make sure that doesn't happen. Solutions could be that instead of lapped cars overtaking it's the cars stuck behind 'traffic' to get into position (in this case Verstappen overtaking the five cars in front of him), but this might increase the risk of collisions and confusion. Or perhaps the race is lengthened by 3 laps, but this might give problems with the fuel left in the cars. Or maybe the race is always red flagged if less then 3 laps to go, but what then about free tire changes.
- How does the FIA deal with track limits. It's very clear in qualifying that leaving the track directly takes away your laptime, but this isn't clear in the race. Take Bahrain where Hamilton ran wide to gain laptime for over twenty laps, but later in the race when others wanted to do that the rules started being enforced. Make sure it's always enforced in the same way.
- Dealing with championship deciding penalties. The FIA made sure, just before the final race, that a driver could get point penalties for violation of the rules. This mentioning of the rules seemed focused specifically on Verstappen. The question is, if anything would have happened would a penalty be given differently then any other moment in the season. Take the missed braking point of Bottas in Hungary. Would this have happened in Abu Dhabi, had the FIA decided differently because now it was clearly for the title. If the answer even slightly leaned to yes, then this should also change. An accident between two drivers in the first race of the season might not seem like such a big deal, but could as well be the title deciding incident.
Those are just four thing that come to mind how the FIA has not been consistent, transparent or prepared enough to deal with eventualities throughout the year that they should fix before next year. And if they start out wrong with decisions that are questionable than one can expect that at the end of the season every decision is approached with skepticism from the teams and are often appealed. While if they start out consistent and transparent the teams will have confidence in the decisions and won't be nearly as likely to make an appeal. So, they should focus on making a good starting and gaining trust in the decisions.
this wasn't a matter of lack of clarity on handling the situation. the fia got exactly what it wanted. they want the ability to create moments like this. they decide which scenario they want then interpret the rules to make it happen.
The red flag one is tricky. While I agree a lot of times people (gonna particularly refer to the championship leaders) got advantages (like you mentioned, Hamilton Silverstone, Hamilton Imola, Verstappen Jeddah, also Verstappen Hungary even though those repairs did not have a massive impact), that also pertains to safety car tyre switching. However the thing is, for example in Baku, it was absolutely necessary to change the tyres due to random blowouts. The issue is, its gonna get even muddier if you allow things some of the time, but not all the time.
The rulebook needs an "Order of Operations" so that when a conflict arises it is clear which rule wins. Normally the most important rule would be first.
Very satisfying witnessing Woke hamilton take 2nd place on LAST LAP!!!!! ALL LIVES MATTER
The main thing i hope you learn Xavier d'Arche is that this is MOTOR RACING.
MAX IS VICTORIOUS!!!!!!!!
If Max couldn't have reach to Hamilton because of lapped cars, everybody would be saying hey why they didn't let them pass the safety car..
Why did no one talk about Alonso's point about unlapping immediately instead of calling back and forth and then unlap half of them. If Masi did it perfect maybe we still would have had the same last lap fight only with all cars unlapped?
Absolutely! But LH fans don't want to think about that
@@philhellmuth2771 If that had actually happened, I'm pretty sure LH fans wouldn't say a word. The problem is that such a thing didn't happened and Masi just decided to make up a new rule book.
@@gauravmalltarlok5354 come on… they would have cried like crybaby hamilton
No I think the crucial but that was bent was the safety came in too quickly and all of sudden they were racing on the same lap
Normally safety car must do 1 more lap before coming in via rule book thus Lewis would have won the title
What if all cars had a controller that turned off the engine and engaged the breaks? And you'd get a warning in each car that it will happen in a couple seconds so you can prepare.
Every car stops at the same time, and then start at the same time when the rubble is cleaned and it's good to go. Then you won't have this stupid catching up to the safety car, removing the gap.
They do this at my local go cart atleast xD
I personally would have preferred a red flag with a 5 lap sprint to finish the season.
I thought the same thing, would've given both teams a fair chance
Of course, it should've been just like in jeddah, its unbelievable, they tried to make it climatic, but imo, it wasn't. The seasons ending was a disaster.
if we're going the WWE route this is the only fair way to end it.
@@Kevinschart True and tbh I really didn't want the race to end behind the safety car but still they should stick to their rules and not make it too much about the fans because it ruined the race.
Good idea. Why wasn't there a race director in place to come up with this idea?.... Oh there was? Fire him.
New rule for next year? I think any caution that brings out a safety car within the last 5 laps should become an automatic red flag. Every car to the pits, allow tire changes and repairs, send them all back out in order and have either a grid start or an Indy start. Then at least we'd get a proper shootout.
You mean just like what happened in imola? When Lewis shouldn't have been close to his 2nd place finish.
What bullshit....everybody HAD the chance to change tires....Oh yes....let's stop races with every incident....That will make it a lot more fun....
My 2 cents is that tire change during red flag should be banned.
To change tires during yellow is open for all. And Hamilton could have given up the on track order for new tires, but opted to not take that gamble.
A red flag automatically resets all tactical gambles if tire change are allowed.
So take a red flag, but ban tire change. That would give fair, interesting racing.
Both teams have been crying all season about “let them race”. And now when the most fair alternative for a race to the finish, complaints are massive anyway. If Hamilton would have pitted for tires during yellow, and would be the one chasing, of course he would want lapped cars to be moved out of the way.
@@linkan84 i find it hard to believe u still dont see the issue with what happened. let them race does not mean break the rules. IF he wanted to let them race he shouldve let all cars unlap or no cars unlap. IF hamilton pitted and the rules were followed he wouldve lost. Dont let your obvious bias blind u from being objective.
You saying that because it was c9nvenient for lewis this time. Cmon man.
"any" does actually mean "all".
"any lapped car will be required" means "if a car is lapped it will be required", which means "each lapped car will be required" which means "all lapped cars will be required".
"some" and "not all" are about the only phrases that wouldn't mean "all"
You cant beg for rule consistency if you ignored rule inconsistency for years.
All those times from 2014-2020 when Mercedes was privileged,got no penalty for mistakes that all the others have been punished, for Hamilton fanboys everything was normal …
Leaving Grey Area in rules of this massive sport is a disservice to Everyone involved.
I dont agree
Grey areas should give the race director more power.
The sport needs strong refereeing.
Not just masi, but several experienced drivers. Race winners.
These are the guys who know what its like to be in that situation
This is how rules evolve. Incidents like these test the rules which may lead to some changes.
@@brandonryan9582 thats stupid as fuck
and applies to literally nothing else. regulation exists so that there are rules that everybody can agree on and cite empirically. "strong refereeing" means enforcing the rules. not making arbitrary decisions.
The problem is no rule is exhaustive and requires some level of understanding the spirt of what the rule is trying to achieve.
"All" means every one of the available choices. "Any" means some subset of the available choices
I was happy for either to win the championship. I was left feeling annoyed at the end of the race because of the weird treatment of the safety car period. . It felt a bit like WWE on wheels.
Its called racing
I was rooting for Max, but I was also annoyed how the race ended.
@@danielstokker not when you arbitrary decide to influence the championship decider.
@@danielstokker they did race, and lewis was faster the entire race, then masi made up his own rules to give max another chance, Thats not racing.
@@stian1236 is mercedes fault they didn't pit ham. the yellow flag wasn't created by masi
The last race was a blatant robbery .F1 has too many characters who sit on the fence and don't speak the truth . Max had a great season and no one can begrudge him the title he did what he was supposed to do . But let's have it right he was clearly beaten by Hamilton in that last race . I still can't believe how scandalously the title was decided. It was like Borris was the race director.
Mercedes gambled wrong. If they would have pitted Lewis, Max would have stayed out and Lewis would have been on fresh softs.
@@reinholdvink2654 That was not an option for Mercedes. If they pit Hamilton and the race doesn't restart on the last lap then they would have lost track position and the championship. They had no way of knowing wether the race would restart or not. So Mercedes actually played it right, here.
@@ATRAlpha Yes, you are right, so they were just unlucky that it restarted.
@@reinholdvink2654 Well... I wouldn't say unlucky because what really happened is that Masi bent the rules so that they would have one last lap of racing but in doing so the championship was basically decided in the Race Control room instead of the race track.
@@ATRAlpha Sorry I dont agree with you. It has always been that as soon the accident has cleared the race should restart. And in this case the accident was cleared the race restarted as always. Lewis was just unlucky that the accident was cleared before the end of the race.
that pass checo did on hamilton was legendary for sure and he did an amazing job.
"Michael Masi being replaced by a dice in 2022 for more consistent rules" Brilliant🍻
Cope
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Mark-zk3gu You don’t have to be a Lewis fan to realize Masi was inconsistent as all fuck this year.
@@Mark-zk3gu None necessary here. Just thought it was funny, and accurate. ymmv
That would be awesome ... 1 - 5 second penalty 2 - No investigation necessary 3 - 10 second penalty 4 - Safety car 5 - Virtual Safety car 6 - Red flag
“If you no longer break the rules that exist , you are no longer a race director “
-Micheal masi
😂😂😂😂hahahhaahahaha😂😂😂😂
Fair play 🤣
Your job is to enforce the rules or get them changed
I'm laughing my face out here
@@andrewjoannou5248 technically he didn’t break them
"Dont tell the race director what to do", well that aged well.
The FIA admitted that it was wrong in Abu Dhabi, advertising to the whole world.
This error is not just any mistake , it is even characterized exactly as a coup , since at the entrance of SAFETY CAR , on lap 53 , with 5 laps to go and one more piece to the end of the race , Masi would have set up this blow : he informed to everyone exactly on this (lap 53), the one at the entrance of the SAFETY CAR ,"[until the end of the race, all the latecomers (will remain) in the position they are in" (causing Mercedes not to change the tires, until the end of the race also)']".
And when there was only one lap and one more piece to the end of the race, on the penultimate lap, on lap 57, when the time was up for Mercedes to change the tires. Masi saw, as well as the whole world was also seeing, that Hamilton would be in the last lap with old tires, hard with 43 laps. And seeing him also that Vestapen had just put in new tires, soft for 4 laps only, the blow was given by Masi exactly in this situation. He took the opposite decision from the one he had informed everyone, when the time for Mercedes to change the tires had run out, saying: "[the latecomers, (will not be) in the position they are in until the end of the race]".
All these details, without taking it away, are shown in the video: "That's why Lewis Hamilton believes the race was manipulated", EFFE1 video, duration :2:52.
The mistake was to take the title from Hamilton which he had already won, giving it to Vestapen who had already lost the race.
A possible way for her to correct this error would not be to split the title in two making Hamilton and Vestapen feel like champions in half. Nor would it be taking the cup from one to the other, as was her mistake in Abu Dhabi.
Rather, consider the champion from the normal racing conditions period, before her mistake, and the champion outside the normal racing conditions period she already considered.
Hamilton also has to receive his champion's cup.
There would also be two champions in this grandiose championship of 2021.
This would reduce the FIA's discreditability in the face of this error of this size.
This is by far the craziest nonsense I heard in a long time
@@benzo5799 its exactly what happend tho...
In a season where, going into the final race, both drivers competing for the championship have arguably never been more deserving of being crowned champion. Michael Masi managed to create a situation where either driver being champion now feels illegitimate.
I ask myself why Hamilton had to pass the lapped cars but Verstappen was given a free pass because of the Latifi situation.
I understand it all, but I don’t feel like it was a fair fight.
Mercedes had the rug pulled out from underneath them in a turn of events that has never happened before and nobody can blame them or Hamilton for losing the championship like this.
Max is a deserving champion either way, he’s been excellent. But the sport cannot change for the sake of entertainment for casuals who watch drive to survive once a year instead of staying true to the fans that watch the races, content online and attend 1-2 actual Grand Prix’ a year.
What was he meant to do exactly
No I don't think it's illegitimate at all. Think of it this way, Verstappen had been performing better on average all season, so even if we were to just not count this last race it would have ended up with both drivers tying (which, mind you, was a really unnecessary and forced penalty in the Saudi Grand Prix) So I don't think much changes here.
lewis was 11 seconds in front of verstappen with 5 more laps to go. how illegitimate is that????
True, I'm a fan of Lewis, though I acknowledge the skills Max has. It would feel hollow if the decision was overturned, even though at present I see Max as an illegitimate champion. Mr Massi in his hubris, has caused enormous problems for the sport, and how fans relate to F1 #shambolic
In my humble opinion, I think the best decision (in terms of entertainment) would be to red flag right after the accident, and let Lewis and Max battle with fresh tires for the 4-5 remaining laps.
Then the race was done. 75% of race distance.
Red bull outclassed merc so hard
Exactly!
If you think of it, this would be already an intervention to the events, generating a show. Race control should just to intervene only when absolutely necessary without thinking of the racing consequences. The issue is exactly this, that they were bending the rules to force a show for us. The 'only' problem is that it was an unfair decision of the championship.
Indeed, standard rule should be that an accident within 10 laps of the finish will be red flagged and standing start with fresh tires and repairs for the amount of laps at the moment of the crash.
I think that people make a lot more out of Abu Dhabi than it actually was, for the simple fact that it happened so close to the end of the season, causing that it weighs a lot more in the heads of the people, than it should. Yes, I think that what happened there was BS, but so was what happened in Silverstone. But Lewis fans try to downplay what happened in Silverstone, mainly because it happened much earlier and therefore doesn't seem to matter as much as what happened in Abu Dhabi, even though that's not true.
Or in other words: Try to imagine how we would talk about Max' championship, if you swap the positions in time of the Silverstone GP and the Abu Dhabi GP, so that Silverstone would be the last race of the season (not changing anything, that happened during these races): The amount of bad luck, those 2 had over the entirety of the season would remain the same, so would the amount of points they gained. Max would still be champion, but the season wouldn't have ended on a controversy in his favour. And I think that alone would be enough to change the way people think about this season big time. Only few would actually think, that Lewis was robbed because of Abu Dhabi, if it just happened a bit earlier in the season. That's why I think, this controversy is mainly imaginary, and that Max simply deserved the championship a bit more than Lewis this season.
Rules were not made up for the Silverstone accident. But rules were made up during Abu Dhabi. It was the first time in F1 history that after the safety car not all lapped cars were allowed to unlap themselves. Only the cars between Verstappen and Hamilton. So Max was given clearance to attack Hamilton with fresh tires, while nobody was allowed to attack Verstappen. Totally different situations.
Most drivers and ex drivers think Silverstone was a racing incident. Lewis tbh was unlucky to be penalised at all. What happened to Verstappen is irrelevant wrt deciding if there’s a penalty
@@ashokathegreat4534 "But rules were made up during Abu Dhabi."
Now tell me which rules.
@@ashokathegreat4534 Lewis had so much space to the right during the Silverstone crash, and he had perfect sight on where Max was. He could've easily avoided the crash, which would only have resulted in the risk of him not gaining P1 immediately. And if you can avoid a crash like that (a crash, that could've easily ended Max' life), and you still cause it for your own advantage, that's bad. Really bad. So there was rule bending in Silverstone, quite a lot of it, because this was more than worthy for a black flag.
So sad and unfair that because of the new regulations all cars are more or less equal so the best driver wins. Why isn't Lewis allowed to use his 100 Hp more than the rest of the field engine like in his high seasons ? So unfair
What a nice response from Perez. Shows he isnt just a class driver but also a class act.
As a Ham fan, it was a bit painful to watch, but I was also very impressed, and it was so exciting to watch!
perez was fair and within perfect limits of proper battle, unlike max, he prefer to crash first think later or dont think at all and feel untouchable (all thanx to masi and his gang!
race ending was complete and utter bullshit. no regards for rules, no fairness at all, and complete disregard for questioning their decisions and joke responses...
if they really wanted fair let them race mojo, why not just red flag 2 laps from the end and let them all prep for a battle, not just give massive and complete never before seen advantage to one driver and complete disregard of how the race paned out until the point... ham had to gap max 10+ secs twice in two stints! and they wanted a fair racing? utter and absolute mockery of wording and abuse of power. i hope the court destroys the result and hand it back to ham who deserved it 100% if the roles were reversed, i can tell 1000% that redbul would start bluffing pulling out of racing and they wouldnt show up for celebrations and on top of that they would open their mouth much bigger than ever before! this despicable thing called marko even called toto sore loosers, never look at the mirror i can only imagine....
The last thing I would call the ending is exciting. About as fair I me getting in the ring with Tyson.
@@smartiecooper4702 dont get me started on the end, im very much fuming, but I was talking about perez, nothing else
absolute beast checo
Agreed, as a Ham fan I had zero problem with what Perez was doing. That was great racing by both of them.
Either Lewis or Max would have deserved the title this year as they both fought their hearts out. But I am100% with you. The Stewards where pretty shocking in many of their decisions this year with consistency going right out the window... And that is because they don't stick to their own rule books and leave to many decisions open to interpretation while ignoring clear guidelines. Masi defending the Stewards' ill conceived decisions is not helping either!
One detail with the early Max lunge on Lewis - Max did not leave a car width apart. If you look at the 2024 Saudi Arabia grand prix with Kevin Magnusson's lunge up the inside of Yuki Tsunoda, whereby Yuki had to cut the apex but Kevin came out ahead, Kevin suffered a 10 second (it would have been a 5 second in 2021 as the 10 second rule only came into effect for 2024) penalty, served during the next pit stop if that happens or otherwise deducted from race times at the end.
I enjoy aggressive racing, but I also like to see it be fair: Max's lunch was no different to Lewis' "torpedo" that all the Verstappen fans cry about back in the British Grand Prix that year: as this channel owner noted - Max had cut apex's at several occasions himself earlier in the year without penalty too so this is a rather null argument in terms of this race.
Effectively, it was a racing incident and little else. I appreciate that it soured the wine for Max but after a year of tit-for-tat boundary pushing that both Max and Lewis engaged in (I think equally, but then again I lean more towards supporting Lewis than Max) over the 2021 season.
What mattered was the change (and the FIA admitted breaking) of ruleset for the final few laps of the race.
When you see the drivers mention Lewis' titles - many (Norris, LeClerc, Sainz and even Horner himself have made freudian slips of saying slight variations of the words "Lewis' 8 championships".
I think that that says it all really.
I do wish that this was resolved so we can once again witness some quality wheel to wheel racing for the front. For now, I think psychologically it has dampened Hamilton ever since, coupled of course with a sub standard car compared to their previous years at the front and George Russell who's doing a brilliant job of stepping up to the mark to take on Lewis.
I just can't help but wonder how the picture of the last few years would have looking if Lewis had gained the 2021 title and Max the ones every after.
Its a shame as that title will forever seem a poison chalice within the wider F1 community causing the kinds of divisiveness that range far beyond the healthy competitive banter which makes sport so enjoyable to watch and discuss.
A red flag restart with the safety car laps added to the end of the race would have been a suitable finish and then we could have all truly seen who deserved that championship. As it stands, the Verstappen and Hamilton camps continue to resent the other to this day, a detail I hope will one day be healed in the name of the sporting reputation as the real nemesis both groups face is the FIA itself.
The only driver to benefit from the decision at the end was max, and maybe tsunoda and gasly as well but mostly just a biased decision towards max.
Did you forget Silverstone where Hamilton rammed Max off and he was given a pony of a penalty and easily 'won' which gained him 25 points instead of this race, where the difference was only 8 points.
Multiple times people got called this season for "slamming the door" - What is correct? Either allow this type of racing for all, or enforce "giving room" to drivers in the corners.
slamming the door = ?
@@neiltristanyabut "slamming the door" is when a drivers closes off any space in a corner preventing an overtake. LH got called on this earlier in the season. MV has been taking the the advantage by breaking super late into the corner and pushing LH wide, so really it's the exact opposite issue. Honestly i dont give a crap which the FIA prefer, just pick one and stick with it.
@@roblucchetti2993 I’m not a huge fan of either driver but the inconsistencies in rule enforcement has turned the FIA into an element of the race rather than a referee. If I were a team I’d have to try and account for an FIA fuck up at every pass attempt. Come up with a rule and keep it black and white, regardless of the outcome.
@@roblucchetti2993 in my opinion what you refer to as “slamming the door” has always been allowed in F1 until recently with the tumultuous complaints of MV’s “over aggressive” driving style. It may be aggressive but That’s just part of racing at the top level and I don’t understand why the FiA would have to protect a driver attempting to complete an overtake and penalize the one defending his position. quite frankly it makes no sense to me. “Slamming the door” =\= “running a driver off track”.
@@josea1707 If overtaking is discouraged at corners, then F1 is boring as dominant teams like Merc would continue to win more championships. Corners are the only chance for brave and 'aggresive' drivers to separate the 'men from the boys' (F1 champions like Senna, Shumacher, Max ... all won races at corners!) Perhaps, one way is to widen the track at corners so that overtaking would be less 'dangerous' for the faint-hearted!
I know it feels like the whole championship came down to one race/single FIA decision, but they are won and lost throughout the year, where Mercs benefited too.
But FIA was criticized throughout the year because of lack of consistency. And it was just horrible how the championship ended. I'd rather watch WWE than this bullshit. They literally bended the rules just to give it a show to all ignorants watching.
Okay I would say that both teams benefited in different ways from the fia none sense but Hamilton 100% had the win verstapen had no chance all race and then he just magically gets a massive opportunity in the last lap bc the rules were bended that’s y it’s different from the other incidents. The other incidents were the drivers or teams doing something that pushes the boundaries of the rules, this incident was the fia doing that to clearly benefit 1 of the drivers.
Merc benefitted from decisions that were at worst debatable. This is very different from benefitting from a decision made solely for entertainment purposes which had no legal grounds to be made whatsoever.
@@gianlucabongarzone4372 In a lot of other racing categories a race can not end under a safety car, in my opinion that is a good rule. Besides that, the rules also states (Article 15.3) that the race director is able to control the use of the safety car. So they didn't really bend any rules.
@@zebhoevenaars6837 but ruining everyone's who is not max verstappen race for that? questionable at best, for the drivers safety car restart is a great way to make up places but when 3, 4, 5 places were set in stone basically by letting them through nothing happened
The last time I watched F1 properly was 95. I watched the last race this season. A completely different sport. I’ll definitely watch 2022
I stopped watching around then too. However ... last year in April, stuck at home as we all were, I bought myself a Thrustmaster steering wheel for my Xbox - which has been a huge amount of fun, just quietly - and my interest in racing picked up thanks to that, so I started watching the F1 races again, and *_BOY OH BOY_* am I glad I did...
*What a season!*
It just got better and better and was so exciting, only spoilt by that ending; I wasn't really going for either of them, but thought Hamilton had earned victory in the final race and was robbed by what happened.
But I digress!
Aside from the battle between Hamilton and Verstappen, there were three former World Champions in the pack, and some fantastic upcoming drivers, and that produced a lot of great racing throughout the season. Yes, it's a very different sport nowadays - with race strategy and tyre tactics playing a huge part in the races - but I really enjoy it. This year it's been great to see Ferrari competitive again, and hopefully Mercedes will get it together and we'll have a three team competition...
I highly recommend watching that Netflix series, Formula 1: Drive to Survive. It's fascinating, and really helped to fill me in on what's been happening and who everyone is. It got me interested in the rest of the pack and the race to be first amongst the second tier cars. I love Formula 1 again!
Cardinal sin,max won 15 races in 2022 and got wdc on the 12th race.
No hate,just saying it was kinda boring compared to 2021
Merc used Bottas (who was the new Barichello) to hold up traffic. Thankfully those days are gone.
The two protagonists had equal mistreatment by the stewards. Bring back gravel traps and make leaving the track a big punishment and this game would be moot
exactly, or a nice grassy hill at the apex
That would not be fun to watch though. Afer the first corner one of them would no longer be racing
This would heavily disadvantage drivers who get pushed off track
@@tristangrant6054 So anyone fighting with Verstappen would be in a disadvantage
Best solution
Am I the only one thinking there should have been a red flag after the Latifi incident? Then both Hmilton and Verstappen would have been on fresh tires and the race would have been resumed with 4 laps to go. That would've been more than enough to settle the championship on track and all this controversy could've been avoided.
exactly
Would have been fairer, but you cant complain about bending the rules and then calling for a red flag for this incident. A Red Flag is only to be clalled on if a Safety Car is not suficient to clean up the track.
0 justification for a red flag. the crash was minor with 0 injuries and didnt damage the race track or safety barrier. You dont just red flag a race "to make it fair". F1 isnt fair thats the entire point of the sport.
Thats exactly what i thought
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Lewis has become an F1 driver instead of the ballet dancing he loves so much because if things don't go his way dancing he can't blame his tutu
When rules are clear and, when they are followed according to their structure, there is no way we could have had the problem that now exists. In my opinion, F1 will be permanently tarnished unless the FIA can find a way to come clean and say what Masi did was wrong. Following established rules is not about pleasing an audience or TV companies, or even Liberty media; When the rules are followed, even the angry and upset have to accept the results without arguments. "Any lapped car" simply means that at the moment there may or may not exist lapped cars to be released to over take the leader. "All lapped cars" clearly means that "any" car that has been lapped will be released to pass the leader. So by Masi choosing to release a selected group of lapped cars and not all lapped cars in my humble opinion can be considered tampering with the race results. If Hamilton chooses to retire, though many will not care, I think it will definitely put the FIA in a definitely negative situation for years to come. Max took advantage of the situation and won the race, no problem there! The problem is definitely with the FIA and how they will get spectators to see F1 as a sporting event again and not just a simple event for entertainment purposes. Come next season, with or without Hamilton, I will not be watching the sport with trusting eyes unless the FIA convince me that the sport I love so much and have been following since the early 80's is clean and transparent in its rules and is not just a TV show.
no rules were broken mate
@@king_doomfist5428 rules were definitely broken.
No there weren’t any rules broken. Bent or loosely interpreted, that’s something else. If only it were that clear, then we wouldn’t have had this situation and that’s where it hurts for some. To me, all LH, the seven-time world champion and driver extraordinary, had to do when this situation unfurled the way it did, was keep every door shut to the best of his considerable abilities and as far as his worn tyres and poor pit strategy of his team would let him. He still stood every chance and being the seven-time champ one would expect him to deliver more than he did that last round. To me this in-the-moment-decision was a breath of fresh air in a sport already regulated to complete and utter death and utter cack like the mandatory wheel gun delay time.
@@doh4828 Rules were implied but not for everyone, only the a few lapped cars could unlap themselves, not everyone who was lapped, so in my opinion RULES were BROKEN, and Hamilton got robbed again.
> When the rules are followed
Well you could still argue that the stewards should've allow the lapped cars to start unlapping sooner. Then there's the whole slew of questionable decisions during most of the races. if we start cutting up situations throughout the season we can paint any picture we want. One thing is clear - F1 stewarding needs a rework. not adjustments, rework.
I still don't understand how they managed to find a fourth option out of three choices. Super happy for Max but I also feel for Lewis and his fans
Funny, I am not a Lewis or Max fan (Russell and Leclerc are my guys).
I just find this as the worst race of the year. It's the worst kind of win: A Manufactured one. the FIA KNEW what they did. And Lewis almost caught him multiple times!
So, I dunno how to feel. All i know is that if I was in Max's position, I would have said to the camaras 'Lewis is the real winner, but i'll take the title and trophy if that is what makes you happy'
@@CraftageNate No you wouldn’t have.
Actually it should be Hamilton who won that one, and FIA gave the title to Max with bending the rules very hard.....its said but also not Max's fault so its so fcked up now....i dodn't think it would be fair to take away Verstappen's title like this, but also it was not fait to took away Hamilton's title like that.......Masi should retire and FIA should give the title for both driver i think. Gratulations for Verstappen tho, nice work all the year :)
@@jussieronen3707 Yeah i thought they will restart the race with 3-5 laps remaining....there would be show, it would be still lucky for Verstappen, but it would be fair.....don't know why they didn't do that....oh actually i know Masi are totaly incompetent for this role....he proved that many times not just now :/
@@DelaAjka I think it would have been one or maybe even two laps of racing as long as Masi made the decision about taking the safety car in without waving the lapped cars through. It's difficult to say for certain because I can not find any information about when exactly did the marshalls exit the track after clearing Latifi's Williams out of the way, but it seems that they did it quick enough for the racing to continue under normal circumstances, it was just that the FIA was too slow in decision making
The stewards clearly got rid of Lewis’ 10 second lead by moving only the 4 lap cars between him and Versappan. Move them all or leave them there. They hurriedly cut corners to make last lap green.
I love the amateur lawyers who are shifting about the difference between "any" and "all" when describing lapped cars. I work with some great lawyers, most of us F1 fans. There's an idea of a plain English /common interpretation of a clause. The proposition that the rule doesn't say "all", so it only means "some", fails the plain English test. Up until this point, "any" was understood to mean the set of lapped drivers, not some of those lapped drivers. It's more likely that Masi erred in his decision than he parsed an uncommon interpretation of a particular rule & decided it was reasonable. This is one reason why some distinguished lawyers are coming out in support of Mercedes. Race Control have made a mockery of the rules by bending their interpretation to the point they're unintelligible. It's a shame for the sport & it looks like they manipulated the end of the race to give it to RB & Verstappen.
@@sdemosi incorrect
@@sdemosi why people hate lawyers
Thieving I have been watching F1 since Imola 1994! RIP Senna! Even in his grave he can explain it! This was the most disgusting race robbery ever!
@@jeanlucdom5398 keep crying.
I can't imagine the fury of people who bet on this race.
Or the joy
One rule I think they need to change is to allow the Lapped cars to go while the crash is being cleaned up. Of course you'd have to apply rules that say on certain sections of the track they have to slow their pace as they pass the accident, but the rest of the track they are free to try and catch the back of the back. That would allow them to get the cars around faster as well as get rid of the extra lap rule. I just feel like they spend too much unnecessary time behind the safety car at times.
I agree with what you said about Toto overstepping the mark with his comment to Michael Masi about the virtual safety car but then it is also worth mentioning that Christian Horner complained to Masi about the decision to not allow lapped cars to overtake - and that Masi then proceeded to reverse his earlier decision on the basis of Red Bull’s complaint, without consulting with Mercedes. When Toto complained about that, he got a bit of a flippant response from Masi.
Lewis would have won the race but for Masi’s deference to Christian Horner.
I don’t blame Horner for that - he had to try everything to give his driver a chance at snatching the win. But Masi did struggle under the pressure of it and ultimately got it wrong by trying to please the teams or ensure a spectacle instead of just applying the rules. A red flag + standing start would have provided a one lap shootout just about within the rules - and would have been fairer as they would both have been on fresh tyres.
Verstappen was the stronger driver over the course of the season and had more bad luck than Lewis over the year but Lewis showed such grit and determination to drag himself back into contention by the last race - and to win a handful of races at the beginning of the season when Red Bull were miles faster. I’m a biased Lewis fan but I would have had no problem with Max winning the final race through a combination of luck and speed - but a unilateral change in the rules in the seconds before the start of the final lap is just wrong.
I heard this explanation about that conversation:
Masi was still waiting for the track to be safe: a call that the (local) circuit race director should make first. Then the lapped cars could overtake, which is just another safety measure as lapped cars overtake with higher speeds.
Who cares about this race max has more than deserved this championship more than Lewis. Silverstone when lewis took him out, actually robbed hik off, karma. GG.
I'm not a Max fan but I was definitely rooting for him this time, and ultimately I think he deserved the championship this year. The thing is, in my opinion, that FIA's decisions this season were so inconsistent that they went all the way around... they've been consistently inconsistent if that makes any sense. This is no justification of course, but I just can't think of a scenario where both Red Bull and Mercedes (and respective fanbases) could've accepted the final result. I agree a red flag would've been the fairest scenario, but that too would've been bending the rules for the sake of the show. There was no justifiable need for a red flag and Red Bull would've complained about the free change of tires.
Frankly, I wanted a good show and I've been given one, so I'm good until next season. If they overturn the result, I guess that's fine... it's just sad seeing a championship being decided in courtrooms, but that was doomed to happen from the moment Latifi crashed. The only thing I think we can all agree is Masi has to retire. His career is doomed either way. I really hope this teaches everyone a lesson: we need fewer, clear, consistent rules with no room for interpretation. And we need fair judges in the stewards' room, not Netflix directors trying to make a show.
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@@rinzler_1482 When Max took hamilton out and Imola? was it?
When Max forced Hamilton off the track in Brazil but still lost that race anyway
Whatever happened in Saudi was disgusting, it looked from the outside he was actively going for a DNF between both of them at times.
Hamilton deserves it because he without Masi creating a scripted moment, Hamilton wins when the regulations are applied in that race properly
The whole season was poorly managed.
Big kudos to Checo though, he is hell of a teammate 👏
yes the season was poorly managed why did any body expect them to go off coarse for the final!
I thought Checo was really lame doing that, it was a poor show
@@livelongandprosper70 what was lame in that?
@@xordux7 it wasn't his battle to fight..he should have just moved over
@@livelongandprosper70 Red bull is a team and not 2 individual drivers racings against each other. Checo raced for team and Lewis understands that.
Has Bottas never defended the position when Lewis goes for pit stop?
great driving by perez and he drove just like a team mate should in supporting his team mate
You will probably not seeing this but I would like fia to stop laps counting under safety car. If safety car entered lap 54, it the race should continue from lap 54 after the exit of the safety car
i understand why that idea sounds appealing, but it just cant work because that would drastically mess with fuel loads. you dont wanna be slow with extra fuel in a race that happened to never have a safety car or prepare for only one or no safety cars and you get 2 instead and run out of fuel
The decision making from the stewards and FIA this season have been an absolute joke, and I’m saying that as a neutral. Absolutely agree that the rules need to be made clearer and decisions more consistent. Such a shame that an epic season like this had to be plagued with controversy, especially on the last lap of the last race of the season that would ultimately decide the championship.
I agree. I think max overall did better in the season but Lewis should have won in the last race. The decision was a joke and the fact that even nico rosberg says so says a lot
@@stn6408 should have? Then why didn't he? Could've, should've, would've. But he didn't. Maybe next year though
It was payback for Silverstone, you will disagree with me and it's fine.
@@nhlakakhumalo5714 payback? Seriously. There are other incidents max deserved payback. It was good each driver was level on points cause it was on a fair playing field but FIA were inconsistent with their decisions which ultimately tainted this season
@@patrickspapens5497 if there were cars between them Lewis would've won and if the rules were followed the race would finish with a sc. The decision was a joke
This was my first year watching F1 and when I have been struggling to understand something and started to look things up I kept finding your page. I appreciate you being unbiased when you explain what happened and what was or was not wrong. I look forward to learning more next year! Officially a subscriber!!
Welcome to F1. You chose a great season to start watching
Yes welcome to F1! You Picked an amazing season to start.
Learn more on the rules...2022 is a different game...you will get frustrated if you're supporting particular team or driver too much...understand the beauty of the technology,team performance and speed...you will love F1...but just hope FIA doesn't kill the beauty of the sports with bribery
Welcome to F1. I've been watching it from a while, probably 20 years, and for sure this is the best championship I've seen. Unfair but is the best one. Keep watching F1 and you will understand step by step. DO NOT MISS the next championship because new cars are coming. Check some videos on CZcams about it and you will see how exciting it will be.
This is definitely my favorite analysis channel for F1. Some of the other ones are really hard to watch. But keep in mind that this channel does get some things wrong with a fair bit of regularity, so take what you see with a grain of salt.
Do you have a video of the silverstone crash too? i felt like hamilton got rewarded for the errors he made... but you forgot to mention that the stewards said prior to the race that they could deduct points in case of a crash. in abu dhabi... but not with a crash in silverstone. That is inconsistency too
a) Hamilton was penalized for silverstone b) Max could have avoided it, did he think Lewis magically disappeared when he turned in on him
@@kangarht hamilton missed the apex in silverstone by a meter. hamilton should have avoided, and the 10sec penalty was a joke.. and masi knew it
@@remkovdb no rule says driver must not miss apex. Max was partly blamed by the stewarads for the accident.
Perez done a Senna at Monaco 1992 v Mansell.
He just basically stopped on every corner and then hammered it out of it.
I really like the simplistic art style in these. Great contrast to an incredibly complex situation
I think he does this so he’s not caught out on copyright infringements
all it is, is a photoshop filter over a screengrab lol
I don't like it; it allows to show a manipulated version of what really happened, like the Mexico start situation for example where the track was draw unrealistically narrow.
Has there ever been a situation before where a safety car involvement has meant that not all cars have been allowed to unlap themselves, or have Micheal Massi Set a Precedent?
Precedent
He set a precedent and normally the race starts 1 lap AFTER they were allowed to overtake
There should be a rule that says that when there is a likelihood the race will finish under SC, the race should stop and be restarted.
@@Alkem1st There’s an article, 48.13 .
The rules say, any car that needs to get past, to get back to a state of racing, can get past.
It doesn’t say ALL cars need to get by..
What would it matter ending 14th without points, or intervene with the championship and become 13th without points?
Also no driver should be put in the situation where they if they want to or not can ruin ones championship and get attacked by thousands of fans because the FIA put him there..
Dark cloud over this whole season, the rules need to be consistent
Yes, he was robbed. Masi's subsequent removal and the FIA's move to ensure that the intent within the rule of "any lapped cars" can no longer be "misunderstood" proves that what happened Abu Dhabi was a farce.
Was Micheal Masi at the pit lane stopping Hamiltion coming in?
@@stewartgrindlay9760 The argument that it was Mercedes' failure to pit Hamilton for tyres that cost him the race is false when it is considered with what actually transpired. First, it would have meant that Hamilton, being at the front during the safety car period, would have lost that position to Verstappen, as Red Bull had the advantage of being able to see what Mercedes did, and then doing the opposite. Secondly, at lap 57 of 58, with cars still yet to be unlapped, and an additional safety car lap to be implemented, it can be safely argued that Mercedes' decision for Hamilton to hold position was the correct one, as this certainly meant a safety car finish with Hamilton in P1. It is ridiiculous to suggest that Mercedes should have anticipated Masi then throwing the regulations out of the window to contrive that last lap shootout. Even Crofty and Martin Brundle doing the Sky Sports commentary were totally bewildered as to what was going on.
Excellent point about the rules either being inconsistently applied or partially applied due the regs never being pushed this far before.
FIA definitely needs to figure this out before chassis changes in 2022 makes racing even closer than ever.
What's new here? The FIA has a history of this....politics abound between teams and FIA management, etc. , etc. ....
Agreed. I understand they didn't want to finish the race and season under the safetycar, and maybe it was within the regulations to solve it this way (wich we all didn't know, because it never happened before), but it could've been more clear that this solution was an option. I think they will make this more clear for next season, but unfortunately, like with so many rules, they get invented after they where first needed.
But I do hope the overtaking rules get more clear. Now there's too much grey area. Let's say if Max would've kept 0,5-1 meters away from the white line, would that have been legal? There's just no way of telling.
So the rule imho should be: if the overtaking car makes the corner (minimum of two inside tires between the white lines), the pass is legal. Hopefully this will stop the defending cars from carrying too much speed into the corner and therefore getting in the situation that they don't make te corner.
This wasn’t even a decision being made at race pace, though. Either release all of the lapped cars or none of them. Anything in between is so obviously unfair for the grid. They had so much time to decide behind a slow safety car and they still mess up their decision. Brazil, Jeddah, and now this? Get your shit together, F1.
@@cheesyriceo4 they couldve let cars unlap as soon as lap 55 as vettel and alonso mentioned. Why it took them so long to even make a decision is beyond me
@@5bagsofpopcorn I wonder how the drivers really know how much work is left for the Marshalls to do, because I doubt Masi would keep the SC any longer than he needs to, especially since he supposedly was in such a hurry to restart the race. He didn’t release the lapped cars ahead of Max until the back straight of L57
Personally I thought the best option for everyone, If they wanted an exciting final lap; would have been a red flag. Everyone standing start, get free tyres, driver order is correct. But then again I'm not Massi. That probably would've been generally more acceptable than what happened... smh
Pretty sure that a red flag at 75%+ race distance decides the final race order and no more racing happens.
Even if hed sent a mesage to all teams saying he will do whatever is in his power to have the race finish under a greenflag Mercedes would have pitted Lewis and it would have been a fair fight. Instead he said to them that lapped cars wouldnt be allowed to overtake then when it was too late for Mercedes to do anything went "Sike. Max up you get son."
@@nekroneko I believe so as well but that may be also if the allotted time in the race is at the limit , BUT the FIA also just proved they dont follow their own rules. So as a neutral standpoint (Forza Ferrari forever ❤️) wouldn’t it have been better if for 1 lap just 1 lap, equal terms and tyres? They obviously wanted a “close” ending. That would’ve been better than what we were given unfortunately 😤💔
@@nekroneko IT wouldn't. Remember Baku? The 3 lap SHootout at the end of the Race that Lewis Magic Button thing?
@@David.Maughan This!!! Here’s something no one has really mentioned. Sainz was P3 yes, but he also had 2 cars in front of him that shouldve been unlapped. Do you think its fair that only Max got the unlapped ones in front of him taken away? Yes Carlos wouldn’t have gone for the win (maybe lol, he’s a cheeky bastard ❤️🤌🏽) but if everyone was unlapped we possibly couldve even seen a different outcome. They clearly made two unfair advantages
Yield or crash is not hard racing, it dangerous and involves no skill
You forget to take into account that all Formula 1 teams, including Mercedes, have indicated earlier this season that they do not want to end a race under a safety car. A good rule for next seasons would be that 2 laps should be raced after a virtual safety car or safety car or restart. One should also look at the cause of the drivers dropping out. If a team knocks out another team above or directly below them, they shouldn't get any points either. Mercedes knocked out RedBull a number of times last season and Hamilton has benefited greatly from this. You will have to come up with rules to prevent it from happening expressly. Because it is often difficult to prove afterwards. I am thinking of the races in Hungary and Silverstone. You will also have to think of other penalties than grit penalties, if 2 teams stand out that far, a grit penalty is a very mild penalty for these teams. After all, they already know that they will catch up with the rest. In addition, I may also base the number of championship points on the number of laps that one has completed in the lead or on a certain position. I think that will benefit the battle on the track, the public will be the winner. Every round counts in such a case so every round you have to fight and push.
Hungary, Max binned it on the formation lap? Or was that Lewis’ fault as well?
Even with an extra lap Hamilton would not have been able to win. Max fresher tires and more eager to win this
@@GertoHeupink exactly. That’s why he said “we only need one lap”. The whole world knew exactly which straight he’d pass him on. If that’s not rigged, I don’t know what is
@@GertoHeupink Hamilton and Mercedes were now anticipating that the race would end in a safety car finish. It should be clear to everyone in advance that a race never ends under a safety car
What about Jeddah where Max brake checked Hamilton and repeatedly pushed him off the track. Or Brazil where Maxs dangerous driving almost took Hamilton out.
Lewis and Max are both great drivers, however in the end the FIA's inconsistent adherence of the rules and manipulation of the drivers on the track ultimately decided the championship. Hopefully some major changes will happen within the FIA during the off season.
And on that basis, and the closeness of the points tally, IMO, the FIA should admit "mistakes were made" and declare the season a tie because they couldn't agree that the races were all judged fairly - because they weren't.
it was obvious that the ENTIRE season FIA was in favor of hamilton all the way, not penalising him for clear infractions, and only giving him ''joke'' penalties to be able to say ''look see? we DO give him penalties!!''
@@wildwilco Sure, buddy. And that's how Hamilton lost the final race. Glad your supplier is helping you make it through the year.
@@wildwilco LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣. C'mon, Man!!!
@@wildwilco brazil...? Monza...? Are yous sure, verstappen shouldve been penalised, but ofcourse not
Imo should have been red flagged, everyone could changed tires and have 3 laps to the end with everyone in the correct order, would have been most fair i think to everyone. But hey, hindsight is 20/20
I mean a red flag is mostly used if there is a barrier that needs to be repaired.
@@tharealmb thats still fairness, teams have to build a good car, its part of the competition.
@@tharealmb but going against the safety car protocols goes against the rules too.
A red flag would at least given a fair fight and given that Masi was happy to bend the rules I don’t think anyone would complain about who won so long as the racing was clean at the restart
You only red flag a race if there is debris all over the track or the boarding is compromised .. both didn't apply yesterday
@@yenayenayejones421 If they had red-flagged for no safety reasons, whoever lost would have had really solid reason to object, and would prob win. You can't red flag a race for no reason, but YOU CAN restart after a SC when its safe todo so, regardless of lapped cars or not, tho letting lapped cars stay in the grid is mighty unusual. I think they felt like as long as the giant group of 5 lapped cars got out of the way, things were fair enough. And no other teams complained about it.... So..
Fair comments all, but I disagree a bit on the lap 1 incident. Verstappen left no room through the corner for Hamilton who was alongside him and already in the braking zone (braking hard, so "backing off" is not possible here when the lunge comes so late). He did manage to keep in wihtin the lines this one time, but the usual outcome of this tactic of Verstappen's (see: Brasil) results in running well off the track limits. If you can't overtake cleanly, the rules should not allow an overtake (i.e. to avoid potential fatal accidents). The best drivers (Raikkonnen, Alonso, Massa, Button, Hamilton, Le Clerc) can race hard but cleanly wheel to wheel through an entire lap without someone being forced off when they have a basic respect for the safey of others. "All the time you have to leave espace!" to quote Fernando. The Verstappen lunge (jink and dive) is so agressive as to be unsafe most of the time. I call it on the edge of dirty driving, not unlike but not as bad as, say... a brake check while giving back a place.
I think what made it bad was the fact the weekend before at Saudi, they had a simular incident where Lewis forced Max off in a corner (and Max actually didn't cut that turn like Lewis did, but rather stayed as close as he could to the corner) and they ruled Max had to give the spot back. I can see an argument either way on the turn 1 incident, but I think the two calls were inconsistent. Either Saudi was wrong or UAE was wrong.
Lewis was definitely screwed, huge lead cut down like that to a guy with fresher tires. Pretty straight forward
It's going to make for a great movie. As for the decisions, you could go through the season and second guess many things that happened. The inconsistency of the stewards is the biggest draw back for F 1 currently.
Down here in Australia out DSA (driving standards advisor) for Supercars, Craig Baird had a great answer to this. "No matter how much they might look like it to fans, no two incidents are the same, so im not going to judge them the same, i have done more than enough racing to know when a driver is taking the piss" .....what he is saying is that they have waaay more information than we do to know if a driver was at fault or driven in an unsportsmanlike manner. trying to apply the exact same cookie cutter outcome to every incident because it "looks" the same is just going to result in the same inconsistencies.
Run by the French, look what they did with FIFA if you are expecting proper investigation!
Great analysis, one of the best I have watched/read about this GP.
On the issue at hand, a shame for both Max and Lewis, both deserved a cleaner outcome.
For the championship, I think Max deserved it more than Lewis, but for the Abu Dhabi GP, it was Lewis 200%. Masi/FIA should abide to the rules not change them according to what may be more attractive on TV. More b&w rules, as you say.
How Ham deserved Abu Dhabi GP after that stupid decision not to change tyres during sc? Stop writing some bs and pretending "neutral".
@@Sindamsc stupid? He would have lost track position if he pitted, that's what's stupid.
@@Sindamsc what a stupid comment! If he’d pitted he would’ve lost track position. Also we aren’t talking about strategy or a racing move or even driver standards…..we’re talking about a blatant manipulation of the rules to benefit 1 man and 1 man only! That’s not sport and it’s not fair
@@Sindamsc he'd have lost track position if he pitted. Do you people even watch the race? Lewis would've won without pitting if the safety car followed its own rules anyway.
@@benextinction__144 The problem is that they did follow the rules. The current rule set is open to interpretation, just like the laws of a country. I agree that 'any' doesn't mean all. It's just another word for some or a variable amount. Some rules do override others. I can't see this getting over turned at the Court of Arbitration of Sport. The specific rules mentioned are too ambiguous.
You did answer the question you posed in the title. I wanted to see you opinion, I sat through all that and didn’t even get an answer…
I also wanted to see racing at the end, but Max did move 3 times defending on the main straight on the last lap, and it was just ignored.
You're allowed to do that before committing to a single line in the braking zone, it's a pretty common manoeuvre like when Gasly was defending Sainz in Monza 2020
@@JustAbidTooMuch it’s not allowed it’s called “weaving” and is very dangerous yet most drivers do it and no penalty the FIA are a joke 😂
@@fizi9983 I don't think you''re right. I mean I might be wrong here. But I think you're not supposed to weave after the braking zone. If everyone has to maintain a single line right after taking the corner, how can one defend? Your comment does not seem to make sense here. You can cut off the slipstream and finalise your position before the corner. If the driver at the back is talented, he positions the car in a way he can conduct an overtake.
@@archidvignesh5368 you are correct. weaving under breaking isnt allowed. but before breaking you can do whatever you want.
Lewis did wave also.
"This is a motor race." Massi's words. Would someone remind him that Sainz also had back markers between him in 3rd and Verstapen in 2nd. If it's a motor race then clearly 3rd should be given a chance to go for the racing position too, regardless of the championship. I'm fully aware that he was on older tires than Max and he probably wouldn't have been a challenge, but fair is fair, it would be interesting to see what Ferrari's view on this is. I think Mercedes are right to protest at the way the rules are enforced, not just for the final race of the championship but for the entire season, as should Red Bull and all the other teams. The inconsistency has bought the sport into disrepute, if a driver or a team did that there would be hefty fines and/or penalties. That being said, Red Bull worked with what they had in that moment, Max got passed Lewis and won the championship. I've been a fan of Lewis since 1st seeing him in karts in 1998, he deserved to win as much as Max, but Max crossed the line 1st. I would hate to see the championship decided in the court room. I just hope the new FIA president comes down on this situation like a ton of bricks in the future and doesn't let the Race Director or Stewards cave to the demands of the teams or the commercial rights holder the way they have this year.
in theory yes but since the priority is to finish a race (not under SC), the race director just waved the cars that could still pass. I heard that Vettel called for it as soon as the SC whent in.
You certainly 'knocked-it-right-on-the-head-sir' ;-)
@@fan2hd277 If you think "The Race" is MV racing, that isn't "The Race". All cars lapped could pass, all, he chose to block that and not follow directives in the rules.
Ferrari's view? I really think they don't give a damn, they got third, the best possible outcome in the race. Sainz would have never gotten involved in the battle for 1st or 2nd, he doesn't want to end up being 'that guy that took out the potential world champion' if something went wrong.
Over the entire season the ruling has been inconsistent, which sometimes was in favor of one, sometimes in favor of the other. This needs to be fixed. Rules need to be rules, not interpretations that can be argued against. I'm glad Brawn has already stated the intention to cut off direct communication towards the racing director, as no team should be able to influence the decision making or put the race director under pressure, which both Mercedes and Red Bull have attempted on more than one occasion.
Regardless of the inconsistencies in the ruling, this season has been one of the most entertaining and hard fought championships I've seen in F1, and while (as a Max fan) I do believe that Max had the better season overall, Lewis' comeback in the last few races was very impressive. Both racers fought hard and deserved to win, but there can be only one and that is the one that crosses the finish line first.
Hopefully next year we let the drivers race with clear rules and less controversial decisions, and hopefully we'll have another banger of a season to look forward to!
Lap 1 Turn 6 in my opinion was hard but fair. Fair as in within the regulations. But I still think that Hamilton gained a gap by cutting the corner and didnt fully give that back.
He certainly did gain there, but it's not uncommon for the stewards to let those kinds of things go on the first lap. A bit of a stretch but yeah. Max didn't have the pace Mercedes did and unfortunately, probably shouldn't have won even though I felt either one of them deserved the championship this year.
And that charged dive fair game strategy but to then be careless to push an opponent off track, that’s reckless and Lewis did whatever he had to keep his car from Max’s dnf strategy - evens
That's true, though ultimately I don't think it mattered that much because Hamilton clearly had the faster tires. Red Bull figured out how to have their driver on MUCH fresher tires in case there was a sprint to the end and it worked out.
@@sayfami3927 That's not how it works. If you're allowed to keep your racing line, you're allowed to keep your racing line. We've seen many, many drivers who wouldn't yield get 'pushed of the track' like this in a perfect legal way.
@@sayfami3927 cars have brakes. LH could have used them instead of cutting the corner at full speed. Alternatively, say he didn't brake for safety reasons. I get it. But then give the position back.
Nice one! Clear view on what happend!
I don’t get verstapen is allowed to cut all the space between him and Hamilton before the crash. It’s like he gained a massive advantage for no reason. Very unfair the rules are stupid.