HOW TO SUPERCHARGE YOUR 4.8L, 5.3L & 6.0L LS! 700-HP, 800-HP & 900-HP VORTECH CARB & EFI COMBOS!
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2023
- HOW TO MAKE BIG SUPERCHARGED LS POWER! WHAT IS THE RIGHT CAM FOR A VORTECH LS?HOW MUCH POWER CAN A VORTECH SUPERCHARGER MAKE? CAN I MAKE 900 HP WITH A VORTECH 6.0L? WILL A VORTECH 4.8L MAKE 800 HP? HOW EASY IS IT TO MAKE OVER 700 HP WITH A BLOWER? HOW MUCH IS AN INTAKE SWAP WORTH ON A SUPERCHARGED LS? CAN I RUN BOOST WITH A DUAL-PLANE INTAKE AND BLOW THROUGH CARBURETOR? JUST HOW BAD IS THE STOCK LS1 INTAKE? HOW MUCH BETTER IS THE FACTORY TRUCK INTAKE?
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I love this fucking channel so much I can’t stop binge watching this man’s data graph sheets on his performance. It’s so simple to understand and not boring.
Richard I wish we had the technology & infrastructure about 30 years ago for channels like yours. It has really inspired me to be able to do some mods to my ride. Keep putting out the great content. Big thank you!
thnx
I've got an LQ4 with 317s on the stand, prepping for a 79 Camaro. This video is very encouraging! Love the shirt btw.
This is crazy, because I'm getting my 5.3 Impala SS built right now. Then I see this and now I have to future proof my build for boos now. Long block build can't wait till spring.
Great videos Richard! Love how you gathered the data in order to make an educated guess on what the results would be.
But if you ever do make the rest with the truck Norris on a 6.0, I would love to see how close you come to it.
Thank you for this amazing cideos
come to what?
Love the videos Richard keep them coming we are Dyno people 😂😂😂
I really want this set up on my truck
I miss these videos
Thompson Motorsports LS427, Ported LSA heads, BTR Stage 3 Cam, NW103mm, Jokerz Ported LSA Supercharger 15lbs of boost.......That's my >900hp combination in my CTS-V Coupe
Would like to see the truck cams tested in the L86. Maybe with LT1 and LT2 intakes?… please
The professor I wish I had 😢
hi Rich, firstly, thanks so much for taking the time to do these vids - they are amazing. Can I ask a question, I have a 2010 Audi S5 4.2 v8. I am going to supercharge w an m112 from a Mercedez S55. do I need to lower comp ratio? stock is about 10.5. I want a daily driver, not a blown engine..... any advice would be greatly appreciated.
you need good fuel, intercooling and/or lower comp-people run boost at that compression all the time-tune is improtant
Personally I blame squirrels 👈🏻✅
Would love to see a test of an engine set up for the dyno (open tb, dyno headers, electric water pump, etc) vs an engine ready to go in a car (filter, ps, alt, ac, etc) to give everybody an idea of about how much we lose getting it ready to drop in our vehicles.
Engine Masters has made a great video on this exact test.
Please see the video where I tested from the engine to dyno to chassis dyno -already up
@@richardholdener1727 thanks must’ve missed it
@@1clean35th i know engine masters has done tests piece by piece, but I wasn’t familiar with any they did with full accessories at once
He did it to a ls2 and it was about 80hp loss or so and he did his van as well usually 100hp is pretty close so 500hp = 400 wheel or so
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Where can I get that T-shirt?
Can you test overlap vs boost loss. 10 pound pulley 3 camshafts -9 overlap 2 overlap 12 overlap and see how much boost is lost with each camshaft also how torque is affected
if you drop boost-you add power
Another cool video… I’m suspicious that you have stocks in Australia with GM and the LS family of engines. Funny the LS is called the Holden engine in Australia 😂
suspicious?
Very interesting lol.
We don’t call it a Holden engine we call it a ls like everyone else the car there in is a holden
@@chrisjohn6670 oh it’s a car with a LS
Building a 6.0 street truck looking at either a vortech or torqstorm supercharger don’t plan on making crazy power, goal is 500-600 what fuel system and injectors do you recommend for a mild build ?
80s
Hey can I supercharge a 2013 Buick Lacrosse
would you be willing to test external waste gate vs internal waste gate?
the boost control is always based on the size of the flow orifice-internal gates are usually smaller
First view! 💣
Have u tried centrifugal with truck Norris cam?
It would work fine-just like every other cam
3:30 or so I don't see the boost levels for the 5.3 BTR setup, you say it's lower and you'll put them up but they don't appear to be there.
Near the same
Could you use a boost control valve then pully the blower to max shaft rpm? That way the the boost psi would stay at a controlled psi to reduce variables.
No. Boost is controlled by rpm on centrifugal blowers. Boost controllers are for turbos
@@EGGINFOOLS I believe you are technically incorrect on this. Smoothboost makes a "Centrifugal Supercharger Boost Control Kit" that is very similar to what @freyja4954 is talking about. There may be others out there too.
@@Donterryvan looks like you're right
Even with a controlled wastegate/bov on a centrifugal, the boost will still be dramatically different at 2000 rpm than 6000 rpm and is never recommended by blower manufacturers nor will it allow the centrifugal to do what a turbo does
Fancy F bomb shirt
Richard I’ve watched the comp cams snippit video of where you procharge a 5.3 and made over 1k HP. Using comp cam 54-477-11.
What was the setup on that build? I know afr heads.
Also when gapping the rings for boost most are doing for turbo. Any difference for centri blower?
need gap for and boost-hi ram, afr, forged internals (not needed though), Pro d1sc or D1X
Thanks Richard
Ring gap is ring gap doesn’t matter what the boost is. Turbo vs blower?
Did that 5.3 have store bore? The afr heads That I looked at says 3.900 bore. Even some of the ported 799’s by some companies say the same thing.
I have a 11 Tahoe lc9 that I’ve owned since 16 with 59k miles. No issues etc. when I got it I did a small 216/220 high lift tsp cam, longtubes etc. basic boltons.
Now it’s at 195k still no issues but I’m wanting to do a procharger so started looking into it etc and came across your video. Which lead to many other questions etc. mainly the head thing.
it was 3.902
Richard. How long do you think the factory crank will last in the 6.0L as a daily driver@ at 900 to 1000 Hp?
a very long time-something else will break before the crank
Richard,
Is it possible to retrofit a LT4 supercharger, on a LS platform? If it isn't possible, then why? I can't find ANYTHING about it anywhere.
The low (blower) intakes are not interchangeable between LS and LT motors (different heads)
Hey Richard!
Do you have a video for 5.3 short pipes test?
I'd like to know now low starts gaining some HP.
I do have a 2017 SUBURBAN, and I drive it every day. I'd like to know if short pipes it's the right choice in my case. I do not go more than 4000 rpms. Thanks!
what short pipes? neither short exhaust or intakes make power down low-longer is better
@@richardholdener1727 Headers I'm sorry. Short pipes headers.
shorty headers do not make more low speed torque than long tubes
What was the static compression on the 6.0? I built a 408 forged parts but around 11-1 and am considering putting a procharger or vortec blower on it and keeping it around 7-10 lbs.
near 10
Do you think with lower boost and e85 would be ok?
yes
Just wondering if you know what happened to Strickly performance? Did they close the doors?
not sure
Want to build my 5.3 ls motor to a 363 stroker with a turbo what will be some good combos to run to achieve great hp. Any help would be appreciated
you don't need a stroker with a turbo, the 5.3l will make all the power you want with boost
@Richard Holdener thank you Richard for answering. 1 last question what forged pistons and crank would u suggest there's a lot of them
If I want A/C how would I mount
the vortech blower kit retains AC
I got a l76 with a blower cam and wanna throw lsa on it how much you think I can make sbe 😊
Not sure what the LSA will support when ported and maxed out, but I'm sure 800 is possible
can I ask for some help Richard, im building my gen4 LS2 I'm wondering if ive purchased the wrong Turbo, my engine has a 3040 forged Lanati 4.100 Crank, 6.125 manely H-beam rods, 4.000 forged JE pistons as engine has only done 70,000km so just getting it honed, im using the stock Gen 4 heads wit duel springs and rockers done, cam is 277/284 607/617 lsa113, using LS7 lifters high rise intake 102mm TB, I have got an s400/498 98mm billet Turbo with T6 suppose to be capable of 900-2000hp is the turbo to big ive got 1300cc 120lbs injectors not sure of fuel pump but will be minimum 500gph I have pretty much everything in the engine is beefed up should I get an S400/488 or even s400/480 with T4
the injectors are not big enough for a 98mm turbo (if that is the inducer size) and i would not have chosen a 4.100 stroke crank with a factory block sleeve length-you don't need the added displacement, you have a turbo
@@richardholdener1727 thanx Richard from what I can find out the 6.0-6.2 gen 4 do have a longer sleeve so not concerned about that, the gen 3 6.0 are the ones that can’t take a 4.100 stroke, so the turbo is to big yes that is the inducer size, a stock size of an s400 is 75mm, they do a 75mm, 80mm, 88mm, 92mm and 98mm, I can buy a smaller turbo the 80mm and when I get my head around the turbo thing as I know nothing about it I will order a new turbo the 80mm seems to be the middle and ill look into bigger injectors
the stock sleeve length in a production 6.0l or 6.2l block (regardless of generation) is not long enough for a 4.10-inch stroke. You need after market sleeves and there is no reason for using it. you have boost-the power output will be determined by the turbo selection.
What size injectors did you use on the 6.0 build
120
My 408 LS is 10.8 compression. I wonder if it would be ok on 93 octane with like 6 lbs of boost?
Should be just fine on 93
My C5 Z06 LS6 is 10.5:1 compression, running 10 lbs boost on Sunoco 93 octane.
That's all fine and dandy, it's the timing that makes it or breaks it
B-b-booost
A Richard I'm a new subscriber to your channel, I hope you respond but my question is can you run a supercharger on a 4.8 with stock pistons and a stock cam with a 150,000+with no problems?
yes-you need ring gap and injectors and pump and tune (cam and springs would make it a lot better)
@@richardholdener1727 ,appreciate it
@@richardholdener1727,I had found out what's wrong with my 06 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3 L59 engine,it had a bad TPS sensor and the vapor canister purge solenoid was bad also,it's needs alot of maintenance and has been neglected for a while,but I'm not upset at the previous owner because he hasn't dog the truck out at all(20+years of good service,original engine)an I also got a great deal on the the truck,but my mechanic said it's the lifters causing the misfire an it's on the odd number side I believe it's cylinder #3,because the check engine light is flashing an sometimes it's solid,so it's cutting on and off the power,so my mechanic and I are pulling the engine,I'm putting a new timing chain,valve springs,stage 2 cam,I'm taking the 706 heads to a machine shop,new oil pump pretty much a whole new drivetrain I was wondering about those bearings but it sounds like the lifters is about to collapse, but it still has alot of power and speed
Which vortech charger where y’all running ?
Ti and others
@@richardholdener1727 yes sir I jumped the gun I herd you say it toward the end I’m running the v3 but supercharger rebuilds does upgrades for 1000$ to the T trim so this helped my decision so thank you and God bless.
I want 2000hp
Best way to supercharge my 88 foxbody 302…?
lots of kits avail
@@richardholdener1727 I have a Vortech -1 s trim, b303 cam, 75mm throttlebody, bbk shorty headers, magna flow exhaust, everything else stock…. What else should I go with? I’m trying to hit 400+ hp
sounds like you already have a supercharger-a better intake and cam/springs
Do some L94 6.2l stuff! Please?
Responds same as every other rec-port 6.2L
@@richardholdener1727 show us. 😊 One with vvti and then cam swap it and deleted the vvti. Something real world like we face with gen 4 L94 engines.
Vortec*
Gen4 4.8 799 heads, BTR cam, Torqstorm SC, Term X, all the bolt ons.... made 444hp to the wheels on 11psi.... WTF! im disappointment
Not that bad imo. His heads were ported. Maybe volume difference between blowers. He has ideal conditions too.
@@TheBdubya24 true. I was disappointed on the power number. A NA 6.0 makes around the same whp...
SQUIRRELS!!!!!!