What lies in store for BJP, Congress & JD(S) in Karnataka election
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- BJP in Karnataka is unlikely to break 38-year-old Jinx and retain power in the upcoming assembly elections as internal friction and divisions have dented the party, Professor Manor tells ThePrint’s Political Editor DK Singh and Sharan Poovanna in #PoliticalAdda-
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People dont understand Karnataka. BJPs only main stay is its Hindutva root in Karnataka. In entire South India RamjanmaBhomi ground swell of support was from Karnataka. At one point of time BJP had power only in Karnataka, Gujarat and MP. BJP doesnt have a lingayat root but it is the lingayat who support the hindu root. In this state VHP is stronger then RSS.
only Congress 🚩🚩🚩 i will also say jai sri ram novela kannadigaru jai karnatka all North one time vist Karnataka 🤬 we all are one only kannadiga
Teri maa ki chut Ham log Karnataka code Gujarat jaisa nahin hone denge 🤬🤬🚩🚩🚩🚩
Prof Manor sitting in his Manor has no grassroot reality if the huge masses genuinely cheering the PM's Roadshows
Bjo is paying 300rs per person.... If I can throw money of that kind even I get cheered😂😂😂... That's the reality
Hats off to Professor Manor in having a good Historical background knowledge of the State of Karnataka presumably due to his visits and long stay in various places of karnataka and his opinion of the current Assembly Polls that are to take place in this state on the 10th of this month. Credit also go out to Political Editor D K Singh and Sharan Poovanna for putting up very good and tough and interesting questions to Prof Manor who seems to be well versed and giving them good replies.
Indian and Karnataka election result analysis is done way better than a foreigner. He will be proved wrong. Pulse of people of Karnataka is felt by Kannadigas.
It’s funny how all of a sudden so many so called kannadigas are on the print commenting how BJP will win!!
@@motei1853 what so called Kannadiga? We are Kannadigas and proud of it too.
Amit Shah has also given numbers on Bengal. DK .... What's wrong with you???
Absolutely, I was also wondering about this. I was remembering watching Amit Shah and Arvind Kejriwal give big numbers in West Bengal and Gujarat, and then making a mental note never to take the numbers given by politicians seriously.
Oh, forgot! You are right. Take your point. Thank you
@@DKSingh-wf8tn and a Common sensical logic. Last time Congress had some anti incumbency in Karnataka. Yet with all BJP's might and Modi's popularity... BJP didn't win a full majority. And now with a high anti incumbency + leadership fiasco + Congress' strong organisation... What can Modi do? He doesn't have any supernatural powers... As some fanatics assume. Modi didn't work in many states. I humbly remind you.
DK Sir, if the guest would work in The Print, you will report to him. I think. No doubt, gora log speak so well. So decisive and total command.
Even DK sucks up to horas, what a shame
He is a distinguished academic who has authored so many books on Karnataka. I won't mind reporting to him at all 🙂
My assessment was the same as that of Prof. Manor, two months ago. But the following factors have given rise to doubts:
1. The Central schemes for the poor and their effective delivery;
2. The rise in the number of first time and young voters and the effect of campaigning by parties on their voting pattern;
3. The lack of effective Congress leaders in Northern and Central Karnataka;
4. The role of Seers and Mutt heads in the light of BJP's efforts to reach out to them; and finally
5. The reputation of Modi-Amit duo to swing elections.
I guess we all have to eagerly wait for voting and the results and the subsequent analysis
Finally everyone will vote for their caste! Courtesy Congress Manifesto!
Super info. ❤
Superb discussion. Full of insights. Thank you.
Rainbow coalition??? Where the hell do you think Karnataka? In California???
What is your understanding of "Rainbow" in this context?
Homo 😅
@@sarwateashwin Please don't argue with such people. You'll just waste your time
Clearly anti incombency is strong and the break up is less relevant.🤫🫢
Congress is dynastic party and the outlook of the party owners alone matters. Often times Cong has overturned the expectations in appointing surprise and weaker candidates in state leadership including for the CM post. Dynastic policies and politics are different and often whimsical. 🧔😴🤸🤠✋
BJP always used imagination, innovatioin, creativity and grassroot organization to lure the electorate accross the country in diverse scenarios and challenges for winning and government formation. Perhaps it is nearing saturation. 🍧🍺
For the first time in a decade BJP and Hindutva apear to be in crisis. This is the same situation Congress faced after decades of success. Like Congress, the BJP is turning on the state power to curb opposition in combination with media, money, muscle, reservations etc. This is recipe for curruption, devision, disparity and mistrust leading to the decline and demise. 🍽️🫗
Leaders of the backward and lawless states like Yogi and Biswas are used in the election campaign. State BJP president Nalin is nowhere and other prominent BJP leaders from Karnataka are treated with less importance!?? 😩🤦
Is Karnataka a soft target for BJP? 🤔
Hindi appeacement?🤥🤫🫢
BJP is allowing dynastic practices with selected influential leaders in violation of their policy. 😊🤸🤫
Why BJP is not doing great in Karnataka is of their own making. 🤔😂
BJP has completely missed the point and misjudged the mandate they received which was for development and eradication of corruption. What the people got is exactly the opposite. 👍👎
BJP perceived the mandate had communal origin. It wasn't and infact BJP tried to force certain decisions without considering the aspirations and sentiments of the people who choose to elect them. 🪷🤸👎
Any political party that promises change and economic security cannot be ignorant of the indigenous culture and sentiments. BJP has failed repeatedly and miserably in this count. Clearly people are feeling alienated from the political process which doesn't suit their likes and preferences. People are averse to the hegemonic & grand proclamations. People suspect the very nature and motives of a political party which is increasingly agenda driven. 😩🤠
BJP has committed serious miscalculation in selecting the candidates and in dropping few. This has further alienated even the traditional staunch supporters. 😴
There is huge trust deficit against BJP this time. And this puts them in the same category of other two options available to the voter i.e. Cong & JDS. The voters are left with very little choice and the challenge is to elect the best among the worst. ✋💃🪷
On the ground Karnataka is lagging behind neihbour states. Bangalore is in complete mess. Corruption and violence have grown and income is declining. ✋😷🪷
The people of Karnataka should get good infrastructure and a lawful, progressive govt which they deserve.✊
Satyamev Jayate! 🪷
Jai Karnataka!!
Jai Hind!!!
nicely written
Fantastic discussion
By the way people came in droves to see modi and cheer him across Bangalore during his road show is a clear indication of under current in favour of BJP,and amit shah may not be wrong in predicting a majority for BJP,
Professor Manor explained Karnataka politics very accurately, and it was very insightful to know the history of Karnataka politics dating back to Devraj Urs, who were politicians of my grandfather's era.Thanks to Professor James Manor and Theprint for this.
Kannada Pride.
Hello sir,
Petrol rate , Gas rate, Electricity Bill, Cooking Oil rate and almost all the rates are double sir ji, Its difficult for common people to survive.
First the basic necessity to all the people is to lead a life , its very difficult for common people to survive because of the price hikes done so far.
Middle class people and poor people are highly impacted with this.
What new he spoke about Karnataka politics?
May be a different perspective BUT DK Singh Prediction will be any day better than a foreigner 😊
James Manor - take a bow ! 🕶
Indian secularism means
Mamta Banerjee could dare to stop my right to know about the forceful conversion/ genocide/love jihad of my ancestors/sisters/daughters through putting ban on THE KERALA STORY.
I support THE KERALA STORY & THE KASHMIR FILES.
JAY BAJRANGBALI
@DK Singh, plz say things correctly. What happened to his predictions in West Bengal?
Daniel ,Bjp which is is marginal player with 10% voteshare in 2016 grown to secure 39% voteshare and become principle opposition.
Next print guys will ask a westerner - Master, How should we lead our lives, please enlighten us gora saheb!
You don’t have to listen 😅
White man telling Indians, well done print.
BJP will be the SINGLE LARGEST PARTY after elections. Many opinion polls are biased towards congress. But note that some polls like CSDS did a second survey 2 days ago and it showed BJP closing gap and congress losing absolute majority. And do u think PM Modi would do road shows if he was not convinced about ground reports of BJP performing well ?!
I still cant say whether JDS will win 10 seats or 25 seats - if they will towards the lower side, then BJP will get easily 115+ and form stable government.
If JDS wins less seats it will be advantage for Congress, BJP is not even in third position in most of the old Mysore JDS bastions, predictions are based on BJPs increased vote share is going to benefit Congress win more seats in old Mysore region.
@@juPi05tEr disagree but no point arguing as we will know in a week. But lok sabha elections of 2019 in old mysuru region confirm my point.
My hope is all Hindus unite across caste to defeat muslims whose population and separatism increase with every day in karnataka
BJP never won with majority in karnataka ..Congress likely come to power with MAJORITY ..and DKS will become cm.
@@So_strong10 2008, 2019 bjp was few short of majority. I think today BJP is the most united in its history of karnataka.
Congress will not win majority - best hope is that congi+jds > bjp. In any case DKS will not be CM. Reply back after a week - we will see. But its laughable that u think that DKS has even a chance of being CM
@@caesar_cipher BJP is not on strong grounds in Karnataka..anti incumbency and no charismatic local leader ..they are banking on Modi .kannadigas are mostly educated people they won't vote by looking at modi's face..Modi card won't work here..👍
Secondly BJP barely has any strong leader whereas Congress has multiple ..
Again Dks is strong leader in karnataka ..he prioritises his PARTY's political interests AHEAD of his narrow personal ambition.
So nice English person saying Karnataka properly, the hindii journalists keep always saying Karnatak . Good improvement DK singh is also properly pronounced the name
@@karthekeyanperiyasamy3093 technically in Tamil, Tamil Nad isn't incorrect. However, repeatedly saying Karnatak or Kannad implies a dismissive lack of sensitivity, by the Mumbai and Delhi based media, who would rather stick to stereotypes of 'South' Indians, rather than a nuanced understanding of local culture, ethos or language.
Guy keeps saying hindutva as opposed to development, progress, UPI etc. :(
This show obviously done before the Congress released it’s manifesto on banning Bajrang Dal.
The Print has not done any study about this Congress manifesto impact on the hindus and their reaction to it.
Plus this show was also done before the Modi roadshow hit the streets as we saw millions come out n cheer the PM and if anyone had seen the India Today interview with the public at the roadshow, thy will see almost all say thy will vote for BJP.
I personally feel the Congress manifesto n Modi roadshow will sway more people to vote for BJP.
People sitting in an office thousands of kms away from Karnataka at this moment obviously can’t know the sentiment of the voters today and thus can’t say how they will vote.
1999 was the last time when a non BJP party became the Single largest party, after that BJP has been the single largest party, be it in Loksabha or Vidhan sabha. I know you will shout 2013, but it was an aberration, BJP was split into 3 parties in 2013, even then BJP(3 parties together) lost only around 1% of its vote share. Bjp has a solid voter base. Now BJP has Modi, and many people have benefited from central government schemes. Bajrang dal issue has negated the anti incumbency among BJP supporters. Looks like BJP is headed for a simple majority or may be more. Even if BJP can not get to majority, it will be the Single largest party. Not sure why election pandits can not see this simple fact.
- Modi was there in 2018.
- congress was facing anti incumbency.
- All those 3 factions were together in 2018.
- almost all of the lingayats voted for the bjp in 2018 since yediyurappa was the cm face.
- Vokaliggas voted for jds mostly in 2018, as there was no other big vokaligga face.
All of this, yet congress managed to get 80 seats, and 38.2% of the vote share. BJP couldn't go further 104 with 36.3% vote share.
This time, there is stronger anti incumbency for bjp govt, lingayats are divided throughout the state... Vokaliggas too are going to vote for Congress more than the last time because of the DKS. BJP cm face is Bommai whose popularity is less than even kumaraswamy.
I don't know how a maha-pandit like you missed all these facts.
@@jatinguchiya3209 let's come back on 13th may and see who is pandit. Caste divide is not so much, I come from malnad region where vokkaligas are dominant caste, still BJP sweeps the region.
wow brother your thoughts reflect mine. If u have time please read my main comment in the comment section.
Yeah, BJP winning chances r very high, at least both come very close and finally BJP gov will come..I also thought, election funding can be a problem for Congress.. recently local leaders spend for Rahul Gandhi Yatra..not sure they have enough funds to spend more, it can affect at least 30% candidates if not all..that can result in marginal adjustments ..lead to BJP advantage..
They called a gora 0:47 for a state elections😂
what lies ahead????
Pardon my ignorance what is right and left Dalit ?
Dalit community in Karnataka has 2 main castes... one starts with M and other with H ... They are called Left and Right Dalit ... who mostly wont support same party ... They have a modern name .. Adi Karnataka ( AK ) and Adi Dravida ( AD - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalavadi ) ..
Can't believe Indian analysts however deeply knowledgeable on the US elections will have am.equal weight like how Indians seems to have for a whites opinion .
Please come out of these opinionated outsiders views. Even if it's true there are far more insightful strategist in deeper pockets of karnataka and elsewhere in India who can throw more light on state political trends, history and dynamics
Print has Colonial hangover
The man spoke the truth, he knows literally every politicain out there in karnataka, he is speaking devaraj urs, yediurappa and devegowda. i feel strange to see the comments calling him "gora" to analysie indian states politics, if that is the case then leave karnataka to kannadigas, outsiders stay away ,we know what to do ... The indian penal code, The indian contract act, indian constituion and many such legislations have been derived or copied from the britishers.. our entire judiciary is derived in a way from them.. you feel proud if rishi sunak is uk presient but dont want outsiders to come to india and comment about it ... The world is one, believe in give and take... Modi and yogi are just fake masters, who have fololed an entire nation..
Sharan Poovanna is a Kannadiga. Kannada Pride
Dk why don't you join the bjp
Reading the comments i find that people don't seem to have come to listen but rather abuse. Nor are the people in the comments tolerant of others opinions.
Well that's true bro , i did not even like reading comments after seeing some people abusing each other just because they are supporters of a political party. That's disheartening 🥲.
Left and dalits, such bull. Factional dispute are in all parties. This analysis and the print genuflection to white gora analyst is a colonial hangover
Q: What lies in store for BJP?
A: Lies in store for BJP
Telugu migrant who votes for film stars or rice bags
BopaiaH will lose
Congress winning with full majority
Bjp 105 sure
Good analysis from outside perspective, but not fully correct as the UK professor does not understand that Hindutva forms base of many people of Karnataka. Also Sri Yeddyurappa is a very great leader who build the party from scratch to largest party in the state.Also more youth knows that BJP is pro development and is anti dynasty politics.Congress does not have good leadership at national level and this reflects on the state leadership.
Development...and Anti dynasty really. Just check, how many father son/ daughter duos are there in the BJP, especially in Karnataka....🤣🤣🤣
This looks like prof Manor has a tilt for Congress!!!
In this godi media raj can anyone be tilted towards congress on camera 🤣
Typical BJP waala
He's not tilted towards any party in any way; he's mastered Karnataka politics for half a century. Kannadigas have never elected the ruling party to retain power in 38 years. Also, there's a big anti-incumbency wave. Prof. Manor is an intellectual who's articulating the reality and probability of Karnataka politics based on its history.
@@sandeepravula9916 Yes they can. Quint, Wire, Scroll, News Laundry, Alt News, NDTV, The Hindu..
@@mamathahegde1606 in mainstream not CZcams channel they will not leave them also 🤣 and NDTV is priyamitra Adani ki he even quint was bought recently
Looks like print has become the mouthpiece of British East India company 2.0....
Looks like a toolkit presentation.
Who is He ? A foreigner who can give his own opinion without any fear in India. But can he speak the same way in other parts of the world expect western countries which is his own? Try the same in china or Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or else where? Still you claim India is not a free speaking country????
Why do u compare India to such countries? Compare India with developed countries which are more tolerant of free speech.
I hope BJP is rooted out of South India first, then from India. The last decade has seen the systematic rape of the south by the BJP.
Hopefully south Indians unite against the evil called Modi and BJP
Finally met tomil racist who lives imaginary ‘sowath inidia’ told my his bishop while burning 2rs candle
mulle apne assli naam se aaya kar
Karge needs to know that Kannadigas have names like Nagamani,Nagamma Nagaratna, Nagesh Nagappa, Nageshwara 😀
To insult Modi will backfire
It seems you are nagaveni of modi
Typical Euroepan MAaaulytie analysis for Indian Macualyite Lovers.
Hyder Tippu's anexexation Bednur kingdom, persecuation of Coorgis, left Sad feelings
Marthas even though antagonsitic to Asafia-Nizamia, Brittani-Bahadur, remained NEUTRAL,
in final Anglo-Mysore war-1799, inspite of repeated apepals from Tippu to Nana-Fadnavis
Phir gora . Not interested
Why congi sponsored channels so desperate
Congress
While I respect his analysis sitting in london, one thing for sure that this Gora saheb does not like hindutva, loves muslims and their reservation and definitely does not like BJP as all westerners these days..only Print can bring such trash into the market...as nobody in india will give them happiness 🙂
If Modiji was convinced that bjp is losing karnataka he would have abandoned his campaign totally. Hence after his roadshow in Bangalore it's confirmed bjp is winning.
L logic😂😂
Sorry its illogical. Now the media has kicked up a modi wave which is not there and EC will adjust the EVM accordingly to spoil Congress's party and declare results like last time to take to resort politics and JD(S) will eventually get back their election expenses. The purpose of PM's visit is just to get back through back door or window Lets wait and see.
@@prafulkumar380 only Congress 🚩🚩🚩 i will also say jai sri ram novela kannadigaru jai karnatka all North people one time vist Karnataka 🤬 we all are one only kannadiga
The indian not available so foreign professor . Whose nation use the democracy for own benefit and write the history books by cutting certain parts and misrepresent the other country culture.
Why do we not have Indians (from here) commenting on UK or US commenting in their media??? Oh they dont need the white man’s approval/opinions to form their own…… Expected better from the Print
Voting actually doesn't matter a lot . Because at the end of the day the king's a winner.. People are mere audience of this drama of democracy
The Print has been colonized. Or it’s getting sold to the BBC.
BJP wants to replace Intel with BJP IT cell in the state 😂
Hindus vote for bjp
Otherwise karnataka will become another WB
UP is being developed as the most developed state in India and hence UP is seeing unbelievable gains in all fronts. Karnataka state will be lucky if it can follow the UP🎉
From Intel Inside to Gobar inside 😂
Lol bjp it cell account 😂
Karnataka and up are poles apart.
Infact up can use karnataka culture of peace and harmony, education model n for their growth story
The audacity to say this makes me laugh😂
UP is being transformed by BJP from goonda Raj to a state where development can come. It will take at least 15 years continuous BJP rule to facilitate is transformation from a least developed to a developed state.
Useless Analysis 😂😂 Congress is winning guys !!! Take it or leave it 🙏
Dk singh very unhappy to see bjp loosing 🤣🤣
Exactly…he lost all his interests seeing his theories are disapproved by this old man…hope, DK comes with one new video of his own to praise the campaign masterpiece by PM, home minister, CM of Asam and UP very soon
@@AraWorld_22 true bro
@@AraWorld_22 uc commie bengali spotted ,opinion rejected
BJP in Karnataka are trying to make the state like U.P.
Yes bro , nagpur gomuthra half knicker party already removed kannada people pants 👖 and underwear 🩲 now your kidney liver and heart is left ,they want to remove this becarefull
And we're happy with it
The print ; jihadhis channel
Hello sir,
Petrol rate , Gas rate, Electricity Bill, Cooking Oil rate and almost all the rates are double sir ji, Its difficult for common people to survive.
First the basic necessity to all the people is to lead a life , its very difficult for common people to survive because of the price hikes done so far.
Middle class people and poor people are highly impacted with this.