Zhiyun Crane M3 - Pros and Cons Review: Why This Gimbal is Important
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Zhiyun Crane M2 Successor is here. Could this CraneM3 be the best gimbal for small point and shoot cameras in 2021? (like Sony ZV-E10) After taking the gimbal out for a real world review, I discovered some pros and cons. This video also compares Crane m3 vs crane m2. Because of the size this could be the best travel gimbal of 2021.
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#cranem3 - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Make sure to watch until the end. Who saw the ending? 😁
Of course I did lol 😂
I did , great review and your animation works too ♥
Nice video, very useful
Fab !!
Could you tell the differences with the old weebill lab ? I mean both are good for traveling, M3 seems to be smaller but i’m not sure about the functionality.
They are about the same payload right? Same performance?
Thank you for being the only person who talked about this…. *subbed* much love from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Louis! Thanks so much! I'll keep trying to make unique content. Welcome to the channel!
Haha your reviews kill me. Great video man
Thanks James! Haha me too! Not sleeping for 3 days making this almost killed me 😂😂
Nicely done dude! I've been testing mine and its seriously impressive for the tiny package but definitely it has it's limits
Thanks Jake! Haha it really is tiny and impressive. Also it will match the color of Alaska especially in winter 😁
Super informative video! This channel definitely deserves more attention when you've put in this level of thought and production value.
Wow thanks for that! I’m just getting warmed up! 😁👍🙏
Love the intro and the Ending. Fantastic review man. 👍
Hey Razif! Thanks for watching the ending and commenting! 🙏🤜
What a creative intro, so entertaining yet informative review. You're so much underrated, Se😂😂
Hey thanks Frank! I like to think rating is overrated. In it for the long meaningful run! Thank you! 🙏
Great review Se! And love that intro and ending lol. Interested to see where Zhiyun takes their mic line in the future.
Thanks Mario! So glad you got to see the ending part. I'm hoping a built-in shotgun mic on a gimbal! LOL
@@SePark That would be nice!
Very informative video man and i always enjoy watching your stuff! Oh and that ending is so hilarious but creative too! 😁
Keep it up man 👍
Much appreciate that! Haha glad you got to watch the ending. I know this was a long video. 😁
Good review and ending was dope!
Great review!
It's so cool to use phone and a camera on one gimbal, ordered mine combo kit, can't wait to shoot with it!
I know right! Enjoy your new toy! Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for the honest review, very useful
Backdrop lighting is beautiful. 🙏🏼💛
I tried to lighten up for this video. :) Thanks Glen!
wow, fresh out of the oven!!!!!! despite some limitation, still in love with this new product. think this will be a game-changer in the industry.
It sure is fresh! No gimbal is perfect, and this one does push the boundaries. 👍👏🤙
Great review. Do you know if this does or will support face tracking in conjunction with the app?
Hi. Excellent video. Thank you. The wireless control module you reference at about the 15:00 mark: have you heard anything more about it? I can't find mention of it anywhere else. I'm mad that the M3 doesn't have the same wireless compatibility as the M2 unless I get the Pro kit with the expansion base, which costs $300 more than the Standard M3 kit. In fact, I'm ready to return or resell the M3 and go back to the M2 for use with my Sony RX100 VII. But, if this little module-dongle-thingy is for sale soon, I'll wait and see if that addresses my concerns about the M3's lack of wireless functionality.
The ending with the green screen was a win for me!!
Such a thorough review that does the gimbal's justice
Haha thanks Ryan! Then this gimbal has been served!
Cool B-roll!!!
Thank you for the comparison
Nice review！I am a BIG fan of ZHIYUN. Never make me disappointed.can't wait vlogging with it
Thank you! Yes! They sure do innovate!
Thanks for your work!
Questions:
1) I'm hoping (wondering if realistic) to run an S21 Ultra in something like a Beastgrip with mic etc. ON a gimbal and be able to do a sit-down interview (or tradeshow interview like you mention) with the gimbal quickly attached to a tripod and then unclip and run again.
I'm wondering if moving UP to an M3 say from the Smooth 5 makes that practical? I'm especially interested if integrating a transmount and tripod are EASY for this kind of activity. (Thinking documentary with a sit-down interview with an artist and then quickly leaving the interview to shoot her doing her art)...
2) PLEASE, can you sort out or point to legit' info on how well the gimbal might integrate with the S21 Ultra, and S21 Ultra WITH Filmic Pro. I"m finding mostly fanboy videos on "mobile gimbals" do not do a good job on answering this and am wondering about the M3 seeing as it isn't intended for phones.
3) Lastly, I "think" I'm hoping to do pro-style newsgathering and want a gimbal that'll accommodate that and it's a little heavier a setup than a typical "mobile" (phone gimbal).
I may need a reality check here. (In the PAST I was a staff news shooter at TV stations and networks) to be able to have that power in a phone-styled setup would be great.
Any help on this would be WELCOME.
Dobrý den, myslíte si ,že bude fungovat M3 bez problémů s ZV E10 a objektivem tamron 11-20? Děkuji
You are the first Crane M3 tester, who tells the problem with these short arms-
- My combination (Sony 6400 and Tamron 1120) is the maximum that can just be balanced without hitting the camera and hitting the arms.
The cons:
- the supplied cables do not work and are too short
- changing settings (aperture, iso etc.) via the control dial is not possible with Sony
- photo shooting (camera is in auto mode, other photo programmes also tested) does not work with
- Panorama, timelapse via the app. The gimbal moves through the waypoints, but no photos are triggered.
- Only handy if you move all arms back to the original position.
I tested everything with the latest firmware 1.72. It is possible with the Weebill S and DJI Ronin.
what about tamron 17-70mm ?
@@riszxxx wondering too
Thanks you for posting 📫 this video 📫 📹 . You sir have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work 👍..
Hi Nelson! Thank you. Welcome to the channel!
I have a zhiyun weebill s, it is really the best gimbal I have used so far. I see your review, of the zhiyun m3, with full and all the detailed information, small size, but look can hold some good full frame camera, I like this shotgun microphone, I want to share to my friend a small Vloger, and she want a new smaller gimbal for a very long time, I can test it, nice.
Amazing video sir and cool review. Thanks ...going to stick to the Weebill S still and wait for the next gen.
Thanks man! I still use my Weebill 2 too. I love having extra gimbal batteries 😁
@@SePark you know it's interesting...having the Weebill and getting the S I was also excited about the extra batteries. Lol but crazy enough these things last forever on the newer gimbals. 10 hour shoot yesterday and still going.
Sir a quick question. Can you turn the gimbal upside down to shoot with the phone sensor closer to the ground?
Hello,
Could you tell me if focus pull shot, motion timelapse, and dolly zoom shot is possible to shoot from this gimbal.
If yes then how. And if no then is there going to a firmware update to get these features.
Thank you 😊
Love the intro!
Thanks so much! I thought you might like it! 😄🙏
@@SePark one hundred percent. Just look at my name lol. Honestly though, that came out really well. Good work mate.
Although this channel heavily focuses on gimbals, still can’t help but feel that they’re low key tutorials on how to be a cool dad 😎
Are we going to expect a mrs stormtrooper in the form of Captain Phasma? 😆
Great review Se! Lot of good small form factor gimbals out there and this one is a good video to share with others.
Haha gonna have to step up my game as my kids get older. Trying to challenge myself on these edits so that I can teach other padowans on what I learn. Keeping myself interested in these CZcams is just as important as making a good review for the long run. 🙌💪 Thanks Mike!
Nice work!
Thank you Jim!
Can the scroll knob at the front control Tilt as an option? Or only Roll?
Great great review
I love the Fifth Element quote lol
You had me at the microphone turning to a weapon 😂😂😂 Great video
Haha glad I didn’t slice that part out then 😁😁😁. Thanks Mercy!
The only reason I use a GoPro on this is when I shoot hyperlapses or motionlapses. Nice review!
Really nice first look! Does it come with a quick release clip for Sony a6000 series or is that an optional extra. Is the one for the a7 included ?
Hey Ozzy, I just talked to Zhiyun and they just decided to go with one size fit all quick release instead of having one separately for each camera. This is separate from the standard one that’s shipping with right now. This new plate will be available shortly as an accessory you can buy.
Yes, Se got every info delivered right. We're releasing a separate universal plate for all cameras (one that can help you set up the gimbal even faster) in addition to the standard one that comes with the package, coming out end of this month to early Dec as a separate accessory
very informative video! still waiting to see a balancing review using the FX3, assuming it would be similar to the A7C...clearance issue would be gone.
Now that would be an interesting combo. Since FX3 is little bigger and heavier than A7C, the lenses you can use will be limited. 24mm GM or Tamron 28-75 would be too heavy for it to clear the back motor.
@@SePark true, I used FX3 with those Samyang 2.8 lenses on the M2, with the bigger arms on M3 I would be happy with just the 1728. Also the M3 have a better vertical mode where you attach the tripod to the side 1/4'' screw so you can hold it vertically instead of the awkward torch position...
Hey Se Park. Do you think it works well with A6400 + 17-70? I think 17-70 is kinda heavy :/
Respect ur effort for that ending scne 😁👍
Hey I appreciate you watching the ending!
Great video. Will this work with any handgrips? I assume it will be compatible with the screw hole at the bottom, but is that it?
Thanks Josiah! Yes the bottom has a 1/4 20. Currently there is no underslung handle. There is a 1/4 20 on the side so I could see a third party make one, but we’ll see! 🤙😄
I am interested for my sony a7c. Does the mic input is available without the microphone so i can plug my azden smx30 mono/stereo. Doe sthe gimbal has a way to attach an extra microphone cold shoe?
The Sony A7C is a good match for the size. I tried testing different mics for this gimbal. Seems like only mic that works so far are XLR mics. I need to try with the launch firmware to see and confirm. There are total of two 1/4 20 thread mounting points if you get the audio adapter package. You can put your cold shoe in one of those, but this microphone input is only available with the Pro kit.
Thanks for the review. I see that the Weebill-s isn't much bigger and it has follow focus, so I'll stick to that.
Glad to help! I’m keeping my Weebill S 😁
You are extra in the best way possible. Dope video
Haha one of the best complements I have gotten! Thanks Pauline!
Hey Se, would the Tamron trinity, specifically the 28-75 stabilize on this well? A73 or A7S3
Unfortunately not for those two cameras. It will have enough motor power to hold the 17-28mm, but it will rub against the back motor. The lenses that will work with those two cameras would be the Sony 28mm F2 and 55mm F1.8.
The force is strong on this gimbal.
Haha thanks Tom. I should have used that line in the video 😆👍
That ending lol 😂 nice job bro
Haha thanks for watching the ending! Trying to have little fun making these videos. 😁
@@SePark solid costume there too where did that come from?
@@PaulFeinberg Wallmart 😆
@@SePark it was pretty good looking armor lol 😂
Can we flip the screen of Sony a6400 while taking low angle and high angle shot??
Does the flip screen touches the gimbal axis??
It’s tight. For most lenses it will touch while fully tilted out.
thanks for an honest view. I was watching another video saying the new feature is the quick release plate!!!.
And I was like what, its not arca swiss or even manfrotto that every photographer uses. How is that a top feature.
Then the power button seal of the deal. Happens to some of my gears in the past. Open the bag, battery dead.
If we compare Zhiyun Crane M3 Vs DJI Ronin RSC 2 so which one will be the best choice for Real Estate videography with Sony ZV-E10 ?
cool nice review buddy
Thanks Justin! 🙏🙏
Would it run with an external battery pack? I'm thinking a Ulanzin BG-2 or 3 would be perfect.
Yes, according to another review I read yesterday
Does this have active track like the other one
this should be awesome for the M50 Mark II. and .. Transmount quick release?.. never heard of that.. gotta check it out..
Hey Tony! Yeh this gimbal is a perfect size for the Canon M50s. I left the link to the transmount below in the description. I use it for all my gimbals. 👍👍
Great job, Se. I usually film weddings with my RSC2, although it is kind of bulky, would you suggest me replace it with M3?
Thanks! Haha, No I would not replace it. It could be an add-on as a second gimbal with slight different purpose but I’m assuming you have the RSC2 for a different wedding film lens combo. M3 may not support some of those.
Tôi xem xét giữa rsc2 và crane m3
it hold sony a7R3 with 28-75mm tamron :) i tested it at 75 no problem :) and they add software for timelaspse etc :) (and you can control via bluetooth all on gimbal)
Great review Se! Despite the cons, I'm going to pick one up for my APS-C cameras. Crane M2 is too weak!
Thanks Miguel! Nice! You're about to feel the quality difference soon then. Knowing the cons and getting one is the perfect decision. No gimbal is perfect. :)
The Force is strong in this one… oh, and in that gimbal too lol!! 🙌🏽🤭👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🤩🤩🤩🎥💥💥💥🌟
Haha! Had to do it for a Storm Trooper looking gimbal. LOL.
@@SePark Where did you get that lol! Already hanging in the closet?? 😅
@@theFATEfactory haha Walmart… for most of it. Some parts I built it. I will at least use it again for next Halloween 😁
No ZOOM function via the Adjustment Wheel. The manual states that it will be available in a later upgrade. This is a great disappointment!!! You can only control the camera via USB cable (no Bluetooth as with the M2). The only camera control with my Sony ZV-1 that I could use was recording. Such a failure for a blogging gimbal!! At least with the Crane M2 you could control the zoom of the camera. This Zhiyun product had failures too! It would cause the Sony ZV-1's screen to darken so much that you couldn't view it in the sun! I feel that the Crane-M3 is a downgrade to the Crane-M2 in basic functionality. An incorporated LED light is nice, but you need to be able to control the camera's zoom!!!!
How is this compared to the crane 2 (not the M2). I thinking of getting this to use with the ZV-e10 and A7IV with the sigma 16mm f1.4?
Hey Will, Crane 2 is much bigger as you probably know. For Crane M3 ZV series will be good with the 405 gram 16 mm. If you pair that wit A7 IV when that comes out will be too heavy for M3 cradle space.
@@SePark thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I appreciate it!
if you use difference camera, then you'll need different custom quick release plate. That's no no for me. Other than that the gimbal is good. I just wish Zhiyun had different color option.
awesome video Se! let us know if you'll give one M3 away! 😂
Haha Omar! I’ll need a gimbal that matches my Halloween costume next year. Maybe after that 😆😆
Does is support canon 200D (Mark I) ?
The problem with this M3 is Zhiyun cheaped out and only included the expansion base for the much more expensive pro kit. That means M3 in standard package lacks Bluetooth connectivity to cameras!
do you think this can handle the lens (sigma 28-70mm f/2.8 contemporary dg dn) for sony FE?
On Sony A7C yes since Sigma 28-70mm is 80 grams lighter than Tamron 28-75. On Sony A7 III and A7S III body shaped, no, since it's heavier than the 55mm 1.8, which is the limit before hitting the back motor for the lower angle shots. Weight wise, it can handle it. You'll just be limited in some movements. Hope that helps.
@@SePark thanks a lot for the answer.
yes! i think a7c + Sigma 28-70mm + zhiyun crane m3 will be my perfect gear combination for my travel and run and gun video setup
What is the max payload capacity of this gimble
Found a FLAW in the new Zhiyun Crane M3: when built-in light is turned up anything above 50% (to 100%) brightness, the handle (or motors) vibrate. From 1% to 49% brightness, it's fine. Maybe the energy for the light is taking away some from one/all motors and changing the motor torque? I'm using my iPhone 13 Pro Max with SmallRig Cage. BALANCE CHECK multiple times: manually and autocalibration. 100% repeatable. Confirm on YOUR end please? :) Thanks!
so good :D
Haha thanks brother!
how did you do the intro?
Many many hours of PVC pipe cutting and After Effects. 😄 I’ll do a little BTS on my Instagram soon.
Epic
Thanks to your b-roll dude! 🙏🙏🙏😄
1 millisecond
5th element hell ya
Se With the touch screen, does it mean that all parameter adjustments can be done on the screen? This is too convenient!
Hi Katherine, yes. You can jump to any of the parameter right from the screen. So~ much easier that the old non touch menu system. Only thing you can't do on the screen with the current firmware is the timelapse setup. Right now, you need the phone app for that. Hopefully they include this in the next firmware like the other gimbals.
Se, after watching your video, I think I can carry this white bag on my back to travel far away.
Haha apparently white wearable is in style! Gimbals and cameras too! 😁
Small Camera Cradle Space? Then I'll probably wait for Zhiyun Crane M4 then.
What about Canon SL3?
Perfect timing. My m2 battery is starting to die. Lol funny ending
Thanks for watching the ending! Yeh that’s one drawback of devices with built in battery. Laptops and phones too been going that direction.
Hey mate. I forgot to ask in my last comment: I think I am going to buy this, but I’d like to know if it has the capability to do automatic track and pan (not just for time lapse). Thanks in advance, Jay.
Hey Jay, unfortunately not with a mirrorless camera if you want to select an object to track and follow.
@@SePark I was going to use the gimbal for my iPhone 12 Pro if that makes a difference.
@@StarWarsJay I just went ahead and updated to the latest firmware and apps. So far there is no interface for that. Crane M2 had two choices when you launched the app: phone mode or camera mode. It was able to select an object and track. Crane M3 currently only gives me the camera mode and even ZY Cami app currently doesn’t support M3. I will ask Zhiyun if they plan on updating this.
@@SePark Thanks mate, that’s very kind. I did try and find out myself, but I didn’t see anything on that specifically. If it turns out they do have what I need, I’ll be sure to buy it via your aff link.
@@StarWarsJay hey Jay, Zhiyun just got back to me to confirm and they currently do not have a full phone video app support nor object tracking like they do for their phone gimbals. As for when that will be supported they did not say.
Can this replace the weebill?
If you have a full frame camera, no. Your lens choices will be limited.
I have a cage A73 and a cage A7C, lens: tamron 28-75, 24 GM and 85 1.8. I also have the weebill s, however i always leave it when going to travel because of the size.
@@AlfaMedtech oooo, yeh that a7c cage may cause your camera eye piece to hit the back motor because of the added weight ratio. I can’t tell for 100% but most likely. You could take the cage off to try. Haha Weebill S is fairly small. You must be going to some special places for travel 😄🤙
@@SePark it is big when you have a full mavic air 2 with 3 batteries and a controller, GoPro with all its accessories inside a bag already lol.
@@AlfaMedtech haha that is a lot, but sounds like a fun day of filming. Yes Crane M3 is much smaller in volume. Maybe even allow you to pack one less small LED light, but it will come at the sacrifice of possibly having no cage, little less stable, and or using smaller lenses. I know, pretty tough decision already with Weebill S.
how about a7s3 with 24-105G？
That’s going to be too heavy. That’s more in the Weebill S and Weebill 2 territory. 😁
This dang gimbal made me wish I got the white zve10
Haha me too Chris! So I didn't have to spend hours trying to wrap my camera with a white wallpaper... 😂
If you don’t want the bag can I have it lol. I didn’t get the upgraded version. I got the standard version.
M3 looks so cool ,girls can also use it normally😍
Aziz light!!!! :-D
Haha thank you Jay! You green! In the words of Ruby Rhod (Chris Tucker): super green! 🤙👍
Aziz light!
You are cool! 😄😄👍🤙
I actually exchanged the M2 for the M3...it's WAY better even for an APS-C body like the ZV-E10 I'm running.
Seeing it’s a small gimbal does it have a-lot of micro jitters walking
@@pastafazoule The M2 did. The M3 doesn't. Not as much, anyway.
The mic sound like the eq curve isnt good it sounds like tin
Good ear. I noticed too. It’s much deeper sounding if I put my mouth right on it. Sennheiser MKE 600 tho is a really good mic that isolates voice really well.
It would be cool if the microphone was wireless
My thought too 😄 Don’t think it’s not possible yet. These gimbals just keep getting more advanced.
Fifth Element Reference LOL
Right on Carl! 😄🤜
good!!!! ^_^
Zhiyun have gone backwards since the Weebil S. I feel sorry for them as they obviously are trying to innovate.
Park? Are you korean/?
You would be right😄👍 Yes
Battery powered LEDs do not flicker at all even the cheapest ones. Poor quality LED lights flicker because they are powered by the mains AC power and it has a pulse of 50 or 60 Hz depending on where you live, and its not the quality of the LED themselves but the driver electronics that gives juice to them.
I think M3 is a combination of M2 body and WBS motors LOL
Haha I didn’t even recognize it when I opened it. It’s a beautiful gimbal!
It is also 120 $ more expensive than the Crane M2
They definitely up the materials. You have to feel it. It feels about $120 more expensive 😆
@@SePark I'll stick with my Crane M2 :-)
Please donate me your back pack if you not used it thank you
So like annoying like.
All the Paid You Tubers are promoting this Gimbal ..
You speak too slowly and too clearly.