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Crusader Warrior Priest Explains Religion's Worth
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- A theatrical depiction from the motion picture "Kingdom of Heaven" of a Crusader Warrior Priest explaining to a young Lord the value of religion vs. faith and what a man can do to find God in himself. Starring Orlando Bloom, David Thewlis, Edward Norton, & Jeremy Irons. Directed by Ridley Scott. I do not own the rights to this clip.
I’m not religious, but the hospitaler’s take on religion is my favourite one so far. Its so simple and humble yet, at least to me, feels like it encompasses the core foundation most religions were aiming for.
Me too
Im Catholic and I've seen the lunacy of my fellow Christians
It became the breeding ground of zealots
Religion was meant to be a road to bring the people into God's grace but some people are gatekeepers😂😂
Weirdly, I actually base my personal morality on that idea. Holiness is in right action….what an idea.
Man may stumble and fail, we all do. No one person is perfect. But if we do not set out to harm another intentionally, at least without damn good reason, then I hope that if God exists, that my actions are enough to show that on a whole, I’m a good person.
And if God is too mecurial, and wishes I did more harm to those who deserve it? If I’m expected to take a wrong moral action for a holy reward later in the afterlife?
Then He either is not God, capable of great mercy towards those that wrong Him…..
Or He isn’t worthy of the worship of Mankind, and sees as playthings.
Do no harm. Protect the innocent. Do the right thing, if you can. Be honest.
It’s a much simpler aspiration, and much better overall, then zealotry.
catch the part where he says "I have not heart that" I'm telling you dude the Hospilitar is an Angel
Of course he is, it’s most evident in the burning bush scene, where he just comes and vanishes without a horse
I have felt this way for years. Perfectly said.
God save us from half the people who think they do Gods work/will
I have not heard that.
~The Hospitalier
"나는 신앙을 믿지 않습니다. 나는 모든 종교에서 광신도들의 광기가 하느님의 뜻(will of God)으로 포장되는 것을 보았죠. 너무나도 많은 살인자들의 눈에서 도를 넘은 신앙을 보았어요. 참된 신성이란 올바른 행동과 자신을 지키지 못하는 사람들을 돕는 용기에 있습니다. 그리고 신께서 바라시는 선량함은 바로 여기(머리), 그리고 여기(가슴)에 들어있죠. 매일 당신이 행동한 바가 당신의 선함 혹은 악함을 결정지어요."
0:18 This is how I like to think I live my life. I don't have a religion and don't care for them, as they are all based on the same principles, give or take.
I'm the same! I try to live the best life I can but realizing that sometimes I'll not succeed some of the time. I try to always be honest as I can and act with honor in all things. I think the very act of trying, failing, then trying harder is the closest anyone can come to holiness!
My favorite movie
"I have not heard that."
Uhm...does he talk to god and we dunno? 🤔
Watch the extended edition of the film. Theory he’s actually an angel
There is a theory that he is an angel and by saying that he didn't heard that Balian of Ibelin is outside of God's grace. He literally meant that God didn't tell him that.
By this point Balian survived a shipwreck, won a duel to keep a horse from said shipwreck, had a guide to take him to Jerusalem, showed said guide kindness that would be repaid tenfold later. Word of those events made it to Jerusalem before he did. Really damn lucky for someone "outside God's grace." ;)
It's not a theory, actually. The director said it himself in an interview. It is 100 percent the intent that he is an angel.
@@michaelvansise4887Unless those things were meant to deliver him to a punishment of some sort.
This conversation is about sin and a misinterpretation of the teachings if I am right. Gods grace is forgiving sin, and, "being a good man... or not" means nothing without believing in the father and the son. We will sin, but we must decide, if we are to be closer to god. The belief in both father and son is grace enough, but we must never stop striving to be good and sacrifice for those that cannot protect themselves, because "all death is certain" the final words spoken and the completion of the teachings.
And completed by The king's words: "None us know our end realy. Or what hand might guide us there. "
Good works don't get you into Heaven. Only faith can save you, followed by a change of character to be more like Jesus.
So repent people. Jesus loves you and wants to save you.
The end is near. As much as I fear it, and try to forget about it, I can't deny it.
God says no one is righteous not even one. That the deception that we can be good by our own action and deeds. God says our righteous deeds are like filthy rags to him.
@@adaliantsiki Yet we are called upon to live righteously. "For the grace of god that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world." Titus 2:11-12 Not by our own actions and deeds, not by our laws or acts of man, but by the grace of god, no one person can claim their own righteousness. We are doomed to death, but we should live now in the present and strive to be as we will in eternal life after... or not 🙂
being good is all that matters. there’s are billions around the world that have never heard of Jesus. are you saying they’re doomed to hell?
@@jeremyforeman3216 This is a very vague question for youtube comments and not something that would be easily answered in the format. I'll just keep my response within the context of the original clip here and do my best to keep it breif. ---- Note that the Hospitaller speaks of "Religion" in general and the acts done not just in the name of Chrisianity, but questioning where acts in the name of any higher being come from (acts from nothing are moot in this context). That fundamental question followed by a brief definition of what god desires in goodness. Grace is helping others and in this time period especially protecting and safeguarding the weak. Then the two key beliefs in Christianity for understanding grace. God desires you to know him, and that he sent his only son to die on the cross for your sins. Self sacrifice for others even ones own life is the highest form of love. Those two are key as you see when the Hospitaller points at his head and the cross (it's important to believe this). The choice to be good despite knowing you are saved or not will still not save you from death. Our fate has already been sealed and we must live as mortals to be good or not, religion doesn't make you a good person. You can wear the clothes act in the name of god, but without knowing the most important points, Jesus is god, and he was the final sacrifice for our protection, you will not see the deeper meaning. It's important to know these things and strive to help people to see gods grace. When good people help us, it's fate, but also something deep ingrained in where goodness comes from. The Hospitaller is holding in a chuckle almost amused with what he hears, while Balian is struggling to see how good he is and how he has helped others. (He's expected to see a reflection of these beliefs or any explanation for his loss, remember the beginning of the movie). Sorry for the long reply, but you asked a complicated question.
Ridley Scott the Boomer literally made a movie about the crusades without one single christian in it
I think the film is more concerned with morality in ontological terms rather than religious ones
It's far more in line with enlightenment thinking than scripture
@@irpwellyn I would push back on that a little, what is the New Testament if not Christ raging against the religiosity and decadence of “the church” while telling his followers to do good and to love and be of service? I think the film attempts to deconstruct the very human flaws of ‘organized religion’ and how in that structure people who claim to believe in one thing can in fact be doing the polar opposite without realizing because they are following blind dogma of humans. That’s at least how I always saw this scene.
Pretty hard to find a Christian in Hollywood tbh. At least with recognizable names and not extras and bit actors
I have not heard that, is the most mysterious words in here. Heard from what or who?
Brahma brahma loka, map of narakam and swarga. 7 chakras, 3rd eye. Mahabarata weapons, akhenaten ark of the covenant. Piece of eden. Stargates. Genie objects. Angels and demons. Kronos indra narayana, souls of stars and planets. Creation energy and brahma. Have a good day if u read this.
Monk, not a priest. Seems very odd for a Hospitaller to have such a negative view on religion considering the vows he's taken, and everything that he's given up in order to live a pure spiritual life.
There's a theory he's an angelic messenger sent to guide the protagonist, but the conflict between "religion" (as he put it) and "being a good man" is the central theme of the movie. A lot of the Christian authorities in the film are selfish or amoral, whereas the main cast and protagonists are more grounded and trying to leave the world a better place. If you notice the Muslim characters mirror this - they hint that they have similar struggles within their faith over this, but the primary characters who are Muslim are all extremely likeable, even Saladin. I'd hesitate to even label him the primary antagonist... It's more Guy and Reynald (who are both Templars).
It's a brilliant film that was ruined by its theatrical version cutting out like 70% of the themes in favor of being a big action movie.
Because he is also a soldier in a period of war. He've seen crazy murderous soldiers killing and pillaging, committing atrocious all in the 'name of god'.
@hawkshot867 if you follow the "Hollywood formula" it has designations for hero and villain, but also protagonists and antagonists. In this movie the hero and protagonist are the same, I would say the villain is Guy but with the formulas definition of Antagonist being the person the protagonist has to overcome to achieve his goals there's honestly several antagonists, including good characters that tempt him to lower his morals for different spoilery reasons. Really great movie with lots of complex motivations for different people
negative? why? just speaking plain truths, nothing wrong with being a pragmatic and decent believer
@hawkshot867 yeah, this movie was conceived by an atheist who has poor views on Christianity and no clue what the mindset was of Catholic jersusalem at the time.
He's not a priest, though.
Hospitaller. Service order of the church.
@claydredsbroadhead7763 yeah, they were monks. Monks and priests are not the same thing.
and?
so his word is not worth anything?
or differently asked, what makes a priest so important?@@timothyfreeman97
Of course, anyone who confessed to atheism at that time would have been burned at the stake tout sweet……
Eh, that wouldn't be so bad.
The priests views were more Agnosticism, he believes in God, he just has less faith in Religion
@@FerretJohnIt seems that rather Agnosticism he is a true religious person, not a fanatic obsessed with the forms and names of things.
@@jojodio9851 Perhaps "less faith in religion" are the wrong words, more like less faith in Men and the Bureaucratic System run by them
Men and their bureaucratic control over genuine spirituality and or faith IS religion. @@FerretJohn