The Guitar Style of Pat Metheny - Part 2 “Playing Over Changes”
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- The Guitar Style of Pat Metheny Part 2 “Playing Over Changes”
This episode is the second of a multi-part series on the guitar style of Pat Metheny from the years 1975-1984. In this episode I discuss some of Pat’s harmonic concepts on Jazz blues. I also further examine the use chromaticism in his lines. I will show you the kinds of harmonic devices he plays over individual chords and also discuss substitute chord changes like tritone subs that he uses in soloing.
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I feel like there could be an entire university course covering Pat Metheny and it would barely scratch the surface! Absolutely brilliant musician.
Thank you for taking Pat Metheny seriously. The stuff he did on Guitar synth when I was coming up as a bassist just killed me. It was like he was just pulling at something deep inside me, a way of expressing music that excited me even though I was more into transcribing Jaco at the time. But Pat. SMH. Thank you Rick for tracing things down. It makes me want to cry when I learn about what all Pat was able to express. I just know it moved me so much I wanted to explode. And crazy as it may sound I didn't know those guitar synth solos were even Pat in the beginning. I knew I loved them though. I figured maybe Lyle, I don't know. Barcarole? Are You Going With Me. What the heck? It's so cool to hear the mentality behind his playing and how he approached things. That makes more sense, a little, about the flat wounds and the picking style. I can't begin to thank you enough for these videos.
As a self taught hack this is all far to sophisticated for me and yet I just love this. It’s like listening to a conversation in French I have no idea what there saying but I appreciate the beauty of the language .
Marc Scordato You’re not alone
Bonjour..😁
Congratulations Rick! You rock! I am a 35 years fan of Pat , and you're the first one who explain so clearly things about Pat's style. My life will not be long enough to reach 20% of this technical level ... but I keep working on it! Cheers from Paris
Great videos on Pat Metheny! You are really hitting some of the core elements in his vocabulary! Very impressive and interesting!!
In 1990 I was working for a Barcelona's based company that did audio-visual stuff and we were sent to Andorra to set up some giant projectors at the Escaldes Jazz Festival. My knowledge of any kind of jazz at the time was 0.I was a working class family kid from Barcelona that listened to pop and heavy metal. The line up was Oscar Peterson Quartet, Past Metheny Group and Manhattan Transfer. I knew Manhattan Transfer. The afternoon of Pat-s night we were with the final adjustments on the projectors when they started rehearsing. t was my colleague and I seating on first row and no one else. I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEEING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!!!!. As he realized of my enthusiasm {air guitar and all) he started pointing at me before some solos and trying to talk to me but I didn't speak any English at the time, so we smiled at each other. I was having a fucking ball with this guy I had just discovered!!!. I watched the concert at night hoping for the set up to work faultless so I could concentrate on the show.
That was it. Seen him live about 7 or 8 times since and have listened and still listen to their albums thousands of times. He opened a door by pure chance that I crossed and never looked back. Music is life!!!
Incredibly generous like a private lesson with a professor/virtuoso... phenomenal educator and player.
Found my way to this Metheny series of yours because of the recent passing of the great Lyle Mays. As a guitar player and long-time Metheny fan I've been searching youtube for any Metheny I could find. Ironically, I've been a subscriber of your channel for at least a year but didn't know you did these videos...such a treasure hiding-in-plain-sight!
Thanks for all your content, Rick!
PS Looking forward to your Rig Rundown on Friday :)
Dude - your simple delight and enthusiasm for all things musical is infectious :)
More than I ever learnt at music college. French horn in the Philharmonia Orchestra. Thanks for shining a light on this for us Rick.
You always amaze me Rick. I thought I had talent. I rebuilt pianos for 30 years, play drums well and can scrap out tight rhythms on guitar but you are just a wealth of knowledge! I'm so glad you're doing these videos! Thanks again!
Way over my head ... but not over my ears. Thank you for doing justice to PM's genius. The world could use more of this. I would love to see you deconstruct one of PM's classic albums. Say, New Chautauqua. Kind of under the radar, and not as musically sophisticated (I think, but I may be wrong). So why is it so emotionally satisfying? I believe it has something to do with what Pat call's (musical) narrative, or sometimes even 'glue.' See PM"s interview in the great book, The Jazz Ear by Ben Ratliff. Discuss!
Sir you have totally explained the soundtrack of my childhood! :) All those sunny summer days as a kid in the 70's listening to my brothers Pat Metheny records! I think the grooves wore through we played them so much!
Thank you Rick with all my heart, this is the most intresting and profitable lesson I ever seen in all my 46 years of life spent studying music, seriously.
Jesus... I love how at 27:00 he goes... "Ok.. here's the tricky part!" Oh man....
Jaw-dropping knowledge, musicality, guitaristic skill and understanding.
Blown away
Picked up on Metheny back in the late 70's along with Weather and Return. Always been a fan. I haven't a clue as to any of the shop talk about the music techno music stuff. Just like the vibrations that come from the music. Rick's video's are cool.
Unnerving! I thought only Pat could play like Pat!
That's Pat's unique tonal language. Never heard any other musician sounding like him. Great.
Nice chops. Are you taking hrs to work this out and we are just seeing the end result or are you able to pick this stuff out pretty quickly? Do you slow it down? You seem to have it all these incredibly complex solos in your head which is making my brain explode🤯
This video and Part 1 are two of the most concise and well presented examinations of "Methenyisms" that I've seen. As a long time fan and a long time player, I appreciate all of the insights.
Outstanding analysis and spot on examples of Pat's playing style. Rick never ceases to amaze me. What an incredible Master Music Teacher and Player. Thank you Sir!
the most exciting youtube channel i've seen in years. Amazing how one person can attain so much knowledge in less than one lifetime. Thanks for sharing. PS what camera are you using?
Thanks guitarwizard! The camera is a Cannon Rebel T6i I think. Thanks! Rick
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Yeah man! Rick is such a wealth of knowledge, isn't he!
Eat healthy, exercise and live a happy family life Rick. We need you here for a long time!
amazing thing about Pat is he has complete control over his articulations especially impressive the right hand, unlike most guitar players playing bop legato lines
What's really hip is his timing, phrasing, use of accents and dynamics on off beats. Sometimes the notes are very simple chord outlines w/a chromatic here and there but where he puts the notes in the phrase is so, what, 'conversational'? Great video, thank you!
I’ve listened to Pat my whole life for the the joy and inspiration, never understanding musical theory. As a basic Folk style player I am mesmerized by Rick’s comprehensive breakdown of the magic of Pats composing and playing. Easily the most entertaining and educational subscription I have found. But, I would love to hear Rick breakdown the playing of Tony Rice, especially his early Coltrane influence Jazz playing.
Even a great source for violinists! Thank you Rick for all your super-interesting videos!
You're one of the few people to actually demonstrate Metheny's angular legato licks. Thank you! Also I can't wait for part 3. When's the Metheny part 3 video coming on chord subs? Hopefully soon :)
Rick, great job!
By the way, the Bbmaj7 (not Gm7) Pat uses on the C7 in the beginning is a classic Wes Montgomery sound. For example, check out the beginning of Wes' solo on Moving Along. It's in Eb and Wes outlines a Dbmaj7 in the beginning of his solo on the first Eb7. Of course, Pat makes it sound like Pat!
You talk about the talent of others, but we see extreme talent in your playing as well
. Superb Rick!
You promised part 3 on substitute changes. I'd love that. In my opinion a lot of his reharms are based on Herbie and McCoy. Still, I'm having a hard time trying to understand it. I know you could help people like me to understand these reharms. When I hear Herbie play standards with Miles around 65 (plugged nickel) his playing is so deft and contemporary, and I can't wrap my head around it. Thx for your great insights.
That’s a fantastic vid for Metheney fans ... thanks for your time and patience Rick ...superb
Wow that bootleg is some of the best PM i have heard and I have a lot of his albums and concerts under my belt.
Metheny’s guitar synth solo on “Story From A Stranger” from the Rejoicing album is angelic. I wish Rick would break that one down! 😀
Science. Bah! What Pat does better than anyone I know is to paint a picture and/or evoke an emotion without lyrics. He also somehow settles my nerves. I don’t know how he does it. Oh, maybe it’s science after all. I take it back!
Thanks, Rick.
I'm surprised this video has so few of views.....????? This is rich material.
Hi Ross- I just started posting videos a few months ago and people are just beginning to discover my channel. I only made the video about a month ago. Tell your musician friends about it. Spread the word!! Thanks :) Rick
Patrick Metenier .....est vite lassant . Fusion et bouillabaisse
I might have a snowball's chance playing Pats stuff! Mr. Holdsworth is a "Listen Only Giant" for me.. I'm lucky to play "Fred"..
Rick, a genius, is analyzing Pat, a genius. Thank you!!!!
Rick, I can't thank you enough for these videos. I've been waiting for the part 3 for quite some time now, but I have a great confidence in you that it will happen one day, as you have promised to make at least one more video to complement this super interesting series. After all, it was this two-part video "The Guitar Style of Pat Metheny" that brought me onto your channel in the first place a couple of years ago, and I've been a huge fan ever since. You are doing a fantastic job and I'm so glad to see that more and more people are discovering you and your excellent videos. All the best from Finland and keep up the good work!
Great video, Rick! Thanks for posting.
Fantastic as always .Will buy your book.Thanks
Great video.
this is far better than any lessons i had back in college! :) Keep it up Rick!
Killer stuff Rick!,,, Much appreciated!
Thanks Rick,
Great lesson,
Going to get your book.
brilliant work Rick Beato
I'm impressed!!. great stuff.
Rick, Love Pat"s music, and love your instruction. You have an amazing ability of hearing, transcribing and playing Pat's licks and style. Thank you for sharing his and your mastery. TH
Rick,
Thanks for this series of videos on Pat! I'm really digging on them! I say don't stop at three but, keep em' coming!
Thank you for this vid, lots to chew on, grateful for all your sharing on your channel.
Oh, how little I know! But, I still have my ear, and I sure do enjoy listening to the works of all these greats, and your dissection of them, Rick!
your work is amazing, thank you ...
Thanks Rick, you are a great passionate player. So many interesting things you have shown us in all your vids. Well its time to study some more with your you tube channel. Cheers Rick!!
This is so valuable Rick.....thanks
great stuff as usual Rick ... mother music thanks you a lot for what you are sharing with us!
Thanks Rick! love Pat.
Hi Mr Beato I Just want to say a very heart felt thanks for your videos, your playing is fabulous and you explain the harmonic stuff so well. Sometimes it all goes past a bit quick and I feel like I'm grabbing at eels -but thats all part of the fun I suppose. Iggy
Than you Rick. Awesome video. Both Part 1 and Part 2. Learning to speak the harmonic language is so much more than repeating a phrase somene showed you. Thank you for digging in. More like this please. :-)
Great lesson !!! Thamks for all the info in your youtube channel !!!!
Nice the hear u mention KC. Pat was the pride of Kansas City. Odd that i haven't heard him mentioned on radio or even Public TV in quite awhile.
merci beaucoup, c est super intéressant votre analyse .
Thanks for this Rick. Even though I'm a bass player, I have seen Metheny more than any other artist (easily 25 times). I personally love soloing and this has been fantastic to incorporate some Metheny chromatics. I hope you do more parts to Metheny playing as well as his composition. (You can even get into Lyle Mays solos too :-) Keep up the greaat stuff. (and more Steely Dan "What makes all their songs great!") :-)
where is part 3?
Most intresting. I’ve always been intrigued by the chromaticism in Pat’s playing. Makes me think of Miles in the sixties. By the way, your singing shows that you transcribed a lot of Keith Jarrett’s singing and try to emulate his style, haw, haw. Thx for solid info!
I’ve been trying to figure out how he’s been playing those ideas for years, lol. Thank you!
Fantastic, analysis, you got some ear Mr Beato, Thanks,
Thanks Stephen!
Thank you. Very insightful.
Rick nicely done....love this..rc
Very interesting videos on Pat Metheny ! Your channel is great and very inspiring! You are a great musician Rick! If you make another part on Metheny, can you explain a bit about his rhythmic perception and unique syncopated playing style?
P.s. Because you have so many awesome videos can you tidy up your channel (like one category sounding off , another music theory etc) ? cause its difficult to find some of them! anyway greetings from Greece ! you are great!
I guess Pat is from the ‘bebop school’ or ‘vertical’ style of playing, while John McLaughlin is from the ‘modal school’ or ‘linear’ style. John comes from the Coltrane influence, the spiritual, indian inspired playing. But Pat comes from the Charlie Parker, Charlie Christian tradition. Is that fair to say? I’d love to watch a video that gets into some McLaughlin’s solos just to get a good glance into that other side of jazz improvisation and parallel it to this one. Great vid by the way.
Very well put Juan. I will put John McLaughlin on the list for sure. Thanks! Rick
Would love to ask for Captain Fingers added to your list! Great series Rick!
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That chromatic lick at the end of part one brought to mind late period JM.
Don't forget that Wes Montgomery was also a huge influence on Pat as well.
Your tone is freaking SOLID
Thanks Rick. I live in Bham and go to Atlanta very often. I would love to learn furhter from you. Thanks!
Proper Prof of Music n guitar
Instructor who is fluent in classical and in jazz? Yes please! I'm a young jazz bassist myself but i'm higly interested in classical also. Your videos are the best. The world needs more teachers who are interested and immersed in the both worlds of wester " high information music" as you call it.
You make Pat's licks look so easy but we all know they aren't, haha. (Damn it, Mr. Parrot!) Many thanks for doing this--it's a great video analysis!
Fantastic!
Great lesson Rick :)
I always admired your musical ear and explanations and now with the PM videos..I am exploding with April Joy! fukkyeah.. Music is transcendental, just say'n. Pat Metheny makes the journeys emotional. Just in awe of so many great players ... like you Rick. Thanks for all the informative videos.
'More than a feeling': excellent analysis, very Mind blowing!! How about 'Green Eyed Lady', by Sugarloaf?
Great material and breakdown, Schofield next...! 😎. Thank You!
Great video Rick . I love the dbmin triad over the Bb . That is all it really is when you break it down .Just dbmin with a Bb in the bass . I also think of it as Db melodic minor scale. I have been transcribing a lot of Metheny ideas from live videos myself to get new ideas to play on these tunes . Instead of just playing the ones from the studio recordings . I was checking out a version of it's just talk from Italy where he takes a synth solo . Metheny is an incredibly creative and gifted musician . Love your videos . You mentioned you studied with Mick Goodrick was that at New England Conservatory ? I recall was he one of the teachers there ? Great videos very informative . You know the language of harmony very well . Keep making the videos .
I read short Metheny bio wherein it is noted that Pat's first instrument was a trumpet and that his brothers and father also played brass. That horn background must have influenced his guitar phrasing.
Those aren't simple lines, Rick. You're killing it! when watching your videos sometimes I like to set the youtube speed to 2x. Sounds like Frank Gambale too :)
You've got some great videos. The PM is great.
Thank you - genius!
Rick Prometheus Beato!
Excellent
Rick
Thanks plenty for such detailed and unselfish sharing of your knowledge. Do you know the Metheny track 'John McKee' on Jack de Johnette's album 'Parallel Realities'? Pat plays some beautiful blues lines, with some lovely chromatic stuff. This lesson really put me in mind of that. All the best for the channel!
'nice as always!!
good teacher
Hey Rick, one question... What is to play angular?
Your videos are great man! I love them, thank you in advanced.
Brilliant
excellent !
You are a blessing
really man, had no idea you could play like that
Rick! Really cool stuff man! :-) Hey, who's on bass and drums on the first clip you transcribed? How good a feel is that, dammnnnn!!!
Hey Rick! Love the video. I’m working on building lines using chromatisism like pat these days. Where is this recording from and which tune is it? Was it released?
Thanks for these great examples of pats playing!Greetings from Norway
Rick you’re amazing man, where did you studied ? Your music theory and harmony are just out outstanding !! I am a fan man ...
great topic and vid but my only question is why use a rough sounding bootleg when all you needed was the recording of Turnaround from the Joshua Redman Debut wish? The recording quality on that is some of the best since that track metheny did with Brecker and/or Secret Story, just absolutely impeccable!
Love your vids with your kid btw!
wow rick .... you really got that pat stuff goin on .... im a huge fan of pat metheny , he really is a genious .