Composite Armor: increasing protection, with less weight

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  • čas přidán 2. 01. 2020
  • Composite Armor: Background, Practical Demonstration, and Why it Works
    Composite armor using ceramics is a well known concept in tanks (ex. Chobham Armor), and armored vehicles. I'm going to give the background, description of how it works, and test out the concept in a practical exercise that is way more than a flimsy excuse to go shoot stuff in the woods...
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  • @ministermacro
    @ministermacro Před 4 lety +967

    Protections agains shaped charge.
    Germany: Metal Side Skirts
    USA: Sandbags
    USSR: INFANTRY

    • @a.e.richardson218
      @a.e.richardson218 Před 4 lety +71

      if they can't get close your tank will live
      -ussr

    • @TheAttacker732
      @TheAttacker732 Před 4 lety +60

      It also bears mentioning that the side skirts on Panzers were originally to help protect against AT rifles & HMGs. Even the Panther had a few spots on the lower hull that a PTRD or PTRS could punch through. The skirts destabilized the bullet, limiting its penetrating power.

    • @thecanadiankiwibirb4512
      @thecanadiankiwibirb4512 Před 4 lety +47

      Rama Davy The Russian method of protection is actually the most effective😂
      Most of the panzerfausts produced were the panzerfaust 60, which had a max range of 200 meters, and had to be fired in the open due to the back blast.
      The Infantry would dismount and screen the tank, making it impossible for infantry to sneak up and ambush it.
      Meanwhile, the Schutzen and sandbags have been proven to do nothing to disrupt shaped charge warheads, as the schurtzen are not far enough away from the tank for the molten jet to loose power, and the sandbags have the same problem.

    • @viperhunter7951
      @viperhunter7951 Před 4 lety +5

      @@thecanadiankiwibirb4512 I don't know if you are talking about another variant of the panzerfaust or something but, panzerfausts' don't have a backblast, as they don't have an opening in the back of the chasis of the launcher, unlike their big brother the panzershrek. Also the panzerfaust are recoil-less, they were made that way, which is another reason why they were so deadly on the battlefield either against tanks or ground-troops.

    • @Silverized84
      @Silverized84 Před 4 lety +1

      well, add that the t-34 till the 85mm gun were blind as a bat and the commander hatch open in front of him, those eyes did help a lot

  • @mrunites6953
    @mrunites6953 Před 2 lety +233

    Ceramic or composite armor needs to be contained in a pressure confining matrix to have effective
    stopping power. This way it makes
    max use of its hardness, compr. strength and minimizes shatter.

    • @alextoader2880
      @alextoader2880 Před 6 měsíci +23

      I just came to write this and thought, surely someone needs to know this too :).
      So - if the ceramic is not contained, the bullet spreads it at impact - there is almost no resistance. If not contained, you are only testing the impact resistance which is minimal while the ceramic real residence is the fact that if you cant spread it away - it is very abrasive - even if it is shattered.
      It is the same principle as the bulletproof glass - it has a film attached to the glass so the glass is not leaving the impact area.
      You could redo the experiment and attach a film to the ceramic plates - even this small improvement I think will produce a huge difference in results.

    • @grantavakjan9488
      @grantavakjan9488 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, but it would shatter anyway. The main power of that is the thermal resistance

    • @MarkBerenger
      @MarkBerenger Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@grantavakjan9488 You dont understand physics lol. It doesn't matter if it shatters and there is no reason to mention "thermal resistance" because that's not what is stopping the bullet lol. Go read a fkn book 😂

    • @socotroquito2007
      @socotroquito2007 Před 27 dny

      I think if he paints the ceramic tile or coats with acrylic or neoprene will be contained , one study on steel armor in WWI found that varnished steel was more effective armor than crude steel, of course Ceramics pulverize and decrease speed and heat transfer

    • @God-ch8lq
      @God-ch8lq Před 22 dny

      ​@@grantavakjan9488its harder than the enemy projectile
      the enemy projectile shatters as well, and it shatters faster, so after it went through the ceramic, there isnt much projectile left

  • @martinkominek6712
    @martinkominek6712 Před 4 lety +491

    Sure you lack the high end video tools, but you substitute that with clear explanation and well thought script. You got extra points for using both metric and imperial units as well as percentage comparison. Really good video.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 Před 4 lety +3

      metric & imperial, ...I wonder if he's Canadian then ??

    • @martinkominek6712
      @martinkominek6712 Před 4 lety +20

      @@razor1uk610 Maybe he is. Maybe he just keeps in mind the audience is from all over the world

    • @ryanj610
      @ryanj610 Před 3 lety +1

      Honestly looks like he just forget what ratio to put it all in... it's verticallly squished, but the black bars are still there.

    • @roonbare2769
      @roonbare2769 Před 3 lety

      I deducted points for being tainted by Satan's metric system . Rather than the God given proper system.

    • @TheRomanRuler
      @TheRomanRuler Před 3 lety

      @@martinkominek6712 You mean from all over the world, Liberia, Myanmar or country which put man on the moon using metric system after their own system failed.

  • @jhonfloibelmiculob6581
    @jhonfloibelmiculob6581 Před 4 lety +300

    This guy talks like infomercial host promoting a product in front of camera.

    • @kayagorzan
      @kayagorzan Před 3 lety +13

      But wait, there’s more

    • @elijahaitaok8624
      @elijahaitaok8624 Před 3 lety +3

      Nah,to me he talk like the propaganda MC in those ww2 to late Cold War era informational videos

    • @otneyat
      @otneyat Před 23 dny

      buy our composite products now!

  • @greatdude7279
    @greatdude7279 Před 4 lety +262

    I have a suggestion for ceramic tiles and glass try using duct tape to cover them completely in order to avoid shattering because some people used this and it worked better.

    • @alexdunphy3716
      @alexdunphy3716 Před 4 lety +57

      True, not just for holding the ceramic in place while being penetrated, but also for compression. It's a fact that ceramics increase in effectiveness as armor under compression, and is used in the latest versions of tank armor

    • @vale.44peru63
      @vale.44peru63 Před 4 lety +8

      That might allow the ceramic plate to better sustain a second shot, but due to the brittle nature of ceramic, cracs will still form inside the plate. At this point you should look at the advantages and disadvantages that a “surrounding tape” has, for example cost and (maybe even) weight.

    • @satheeshnarayanan701
      @satheeshnarayanan701 Před 4 lety +6

      What if we use adhesive rubbers to hold the ceramic instead of duct tape

    • @dragonmartijn
      @dragonmartijn Před 4 lety +8

      @@satheeshnarayanan701 With rubber the bullets can bounce back towards the enemy.

    • @mungo7136
      @mungo7136 Před 4 lety +13

      @@vale.44peru63 eventually not just duct tape but put those tiles in the enclosed box. One point is that this way ceramic particles have nowhere to escape and the bullet must trully force its way through.
      But moreover he is talking about HEAT while using bullets - which is strange. It is said that one job of the ceramics is to create particles that fly into the heat jet and disrupt it.

  • @Space_Aquila
    @Space_Aquila Před 4 lety +121

    Huh, the glas worked better then I expected...
    Nice Vid. :D

    • @AceDan-gc9po
      @AceDan-gc9po Před 4 lety +6

      Glass is very hard so the round has to shatter the entire plate to penetrate hence its effectiveness.

    • @vale.44peru63
      @vale.44peru63 Před 4 lety +5

      Glass is heavily used in composite armor manufacturing, also thanks to its effectiveness against the molten jet of HEAT charges, for example the Russians used a certain type of glass in the armor of the T-64 (or T-72 one of those, can’t remember exactly).

    • @inwedavid6919
      @inwedavid6919 Před 4 lety +3

      @@vale.44peru63 Yes and first leclerc generation use it too, a very dense one. Just note that ceramic used in tank armor is a very high density one, with many heat absorbant, more like the space shuttle ceramic was and is mainly effective against Heat round.

    • @sierrawhiskey5155
      @sierrawhiskey5155 Před 4 lety

      @@AceDan-gc9po effective body armour can be made from fibre glass too

  • @mortenize2775
    @mortenize2775 Před 4 lety +275

    This video is just awesome! It was almost professional and very informative.
    Despite the fact that I am familiar with the historical context and the theoretical effects of Composite Armor, I was never able to experience it in practice.
    Due to the fact that I can't legally get a gun in my country, I couldn't test it myself. Seeing the results in your video including the data in the graph was so fulfilling.
    You put so much effort into this video and it was definitely worth it.
    I think it is understandable even for people who are not familiar with the topic. Explaining what Composite Armor is and why it exists and what the effects are helps a lot to get in.
    I am very impressed with the video and would like to thank you very much.
    Especially because I asked for it in the comments of one of your previous videos and you answered and made this video :)

    • @ihatecandy02
      @ihatecandy02 Před 4 lety +3

      Come to America, we can own pretty much any rifle. The general public is armed well

    • @matovicmmilan
      @matovicmmilan Před 4 lety +4

      @@ihatecandy02
      That's how it should be! And not like right now when I can't obtain the AK made in my country, but can only see it exported to the US???

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker Před 4 lety +1

      @@matovicmmilan AKs can't be exported directly from Russia to the USA. Also, how many crimes with guns happen in Russia yearly and how many in Russia?

    • @matovicmmilan
      @matovicmmilan Před 4 lety +1

      @@Tankliker
      Yeah, that ban was introduced in 2014 as part of sanctions. I'm not from Russia, I live in Serbia. I'm not sure about the rate of crimes involving firearms tbh?

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker Před 4 lety +10

      @@matovicmmilan Yeah, the worldwide crime rate in countrys with gun regulations is as whole lower then crimes related with guns in the USA. More guns doesn´t automatically mean more safety, more guns mean more people that could kill others. For example, in 2016 Brazil had the highest deathrate of all countrys, followed from the USA. The funny thing is, Brazil has a big crime problem and neighbouring countries also have high crime rates, you can easily see how the gun deaths are caused. THe USA on the other side is maybe the largest world economy right now, is mostly stable and also has no crime problems in the sizes of middle and south america, but still claims secound place at the list.
      The whole "good guy with gun, bad guy with gun" logic is completetly bullshit. Jsut imagen "no guy with gun" for example, the possibility that somebody could potenially shot somebody is zero. Also the argument that the counter shoter jsut has to react fast enought and stay calm is only possibly if the perosn knows what she´s doing, a policeman or soldier for example is trained to stay calm in such situation and can mostly react fast enougth. People that don´t have such role as the ploiceman or soldier mostly don´t have the reaction time or the experince to stay calm, even if they have a weapon. THe changes are even high that they maybe shot others. Next thing would be that the shoter maybe cannot be identified because if everybody has a gun and you couldn´t identify the shoter from the start then maybe everybody that has a gun can potenionally become the murderer.

  • @Welterino
    @Welterino Před 9 měsíci +34

    I am completely surprised by the tempered glass performance, I thought it wouldn't do shit but it actually worked.
    Remember that in a tank the material cannot escape through the sides so the projectile actually has to waste more energy punching through the material instead of just pushing it to the sides.

    • @FrenchBaguetteTank
      @FrenchBaguetteTank Před 4 měsíci

      4 months late but yeah, funny how glass is used in composite. the best example I can think of is the T-64

    • @ImR97-uj4yy
      @ImR97-uj4yy Před 3 měsíci

      Indeed. Glass was used in T64

  • @mervyn0890
    @mervyn0890 Před 4 lety +389

    Nobody:
    Union of Soviet Socialist Republic: infantry composite armour

    • @tatersmama32
      @tatersmama32 Před 4 lety +3

      The Soviet byus is real

    • @lpflore
      @lpflore Před 4 lety +7

      That one was actually a meme made for a history meme forum I think, I had to laugh do hard when I saw it here

    • @grayhantzell1957
      @grayhantzell1957 Před 4 lety

      The power of motherland russia

    • @phunkracy
      @phunkracy Před 4 lety

      Isnt that just modern body armor though

    • @MrJuanmarin99
      @MrJuanmarin99 Před 4 lety +7

      @@lpflore The infantry on top was meant to spot an neutralize ambush soldiers with a rocket launcher as they range was limited. They also used improvised bed frames and fences as mesh screens to entangle or prematurely detonate the heat.

  • @rre9121
    @rre9121 Před 4 lety +63

    What a fantastic presentation. Great work!
    The logical next step is to put the ceramic on the face. I’ve done some similar testing and found ceramic first can hugely increase the resistance of the backer material. I’ve had a floor tile and a car door stop a 7.62x54R soft steel core round cold. Just an idea.

    • @alexdunphy3716
      @alexdunphy3716 Před 4 lety +21

      Armor grade steel works in that manner. The hardest, most brittle steel is on the outside surface and the further into the armor plate you go, the more ductile you get. The high hardness surface is to shatter or deform the geometry of the penetrator, the softer material is structural to absorb the energy

    • @aleccrombie7923
      @aleccrombie7923 Před 7 měsíci

      That's impressive! Your cartridge is much more powerful than the round in the test. If we were betting I would have bet against it stopping that round. Well done.

  • @unix1033
    @unix1033 Před 4 lety +143

    Russia's protection against shaped charge attacks: **I N F A N T R Y P R O T E C T I O N**

    • @racelkatyusha403
      @racelkatyusha403 Před 4 lety +4

      its soviet union

    • @stefanoprisan6879
      @stefanoprisan6879 Před 4 lety +3

      People body are less expensive than tanks....

    • @jeremiasastorga8399
      @jeremiasastorga8399 Před 4 lety +6

      It's hard to shoot panzerfaust at a tank when its got people on top shooting back at you.

    • @jimhenry1262
      @jimhenry1262 Před 4 lety +1

      The only problem was the Panzer Faust and Panzer Schrek were extremely successful against the Russian Tanks.
      One small SS unit in the last days of Berlin, destroyed over 150 russian tanks over just a few days.

    • @jeremiasastorga8399
      @jeremiasastorga8399 Před 4 lety

      And they still lost the war, so I guess it didn't matter how good it was.

  • @mariofan191101
    @mariofan191101 Před 4 lety +28

    0:30 ¨Protection against shaped charges¨
    Germany: External metal plates
    United states: Sandbags
    Russia: *People, lots, and lots of people*

  • @annedegand7934
    @annedegand7934 Před 4 lety +24

    Confined for covid 19 and watching your vidéo from Belgium. The photography of that Leopard gives hot to my heart, I served in the same in 1984 wenn I was in the army. Usually the composite sandwich is made of an external plate of steel that protect ceramics from light weapons and reduce maintenance cost, a little space to avoid shoks on the external plate to breake the ceramics , a plate of ceramics to destroy the tungsten penetrator of the shell, and a thicker plate of armor to absorb the energy and avoid projection inside. Sometimes a kevlar tissu is glued inside to protect crew from projections. It could be interesting to try with a thinner external plate and a thicker one behind, but respecting the same weight than two equal plates. Sorry for bad engligh but it is not my usual talk.

  • @hughsmith7504
    @hughsmith7504 Před 4 lety +510

    I love how the Russian answer was just add infantry to the outside of the tank

    • @lycossurfer8851
      @lycossurfer8851 Před 4 lety +110

      That takes body armor to another level.......

    • @joe125ful
      @joe125ful Před 4 lety +15

      Space armor* :)

    • @guyfrompoland1358
      @guyfrompoland1358 Před 4 lety +54

      Germany: armor screns
      US: sand bags
      USSR: body armor

    • @user-yf9vn3gc6l
      @user-yf9vn3gc6l Před 4 lety +58

      @@guyfrompoland1358 More like worlds first Active Protection System

    • @JarlBSoD
      @JarlBSoD Před 4 lety +59

      The Russians sometimes employed a tactic where they had infantry riding tanks in to battle, they were not suposed to be seen as armour rather than extra protection against enemy infantry untill they hit the final point where the infantry is jumping off the tank and proceed to fight along side it. This gave the tank some extra defences against enemy anti tank infantry since you had muliple guns and eyes firing in more directions than the tank alone could, and it allso enabled the infantry to get to the main asault quicker. Outside of combat infantry often rode tanks as transports in to battle. If an enemy tank fired on those infantrymen their bodies would do bugg all as protection to the tank realy seing as human bodies are not realy that effectiv at stoping fast moving tankshells so that was not why they were there.

  • @timonsolus
    @timonsolus Před 4 lety +70

    British observer: “Think of all the teapots that could have been made with that ceramic material! Sigh...”

    • @pliat
      @pliat Před 3 lety +2

      Funnily enough the British invented it, that is why it is called chobham armour, as it was invented in chobham.

    • @DeDyson
      @DeDyson Před 2 lety +1

      @@pliat The British invented Chobham armour, which was our (yes I'm British) version of something the Americans tested in some prototype tanks first (apologies I am unsure of the the date of the American tests), and the Soviets used in the T64 soon afterwards in the early sixties called "Combination K" by "the West". The Soviet Union were knocking these out by the thousands by the time "Report No. P.C. 59 FEASIBLITY STUDY OF BURLINGTON FITTED TO CHIEFTAIN" (Burlington was the codename for the armour that was invented in Chobham) was written on 14th May 1969. It is in the National Archives if you wish to read it. Unfortunately, we cannot take this one buddy.

    • @pliat
      @pliat Před 2 lety

      @@DeDyson chobham was the first, but the soviets were the first to put it into use on the T-64, textolite and RHA for the hull, and combination K for the turret, unless it was a model installed with the ultra porcelain balls inside the turret armour. I think the American tests were after btw.

    • @DeDyson
      @DeDyson Před 2 lety

      @@pliat This is the third attempt at posting this as it keeps on getting removed. I have removed the links to see if YT will keep the post here this time. I can always find another way to get the links to you if you are struggling to find the documents online:- Chobham armour is a type of composite armour, from Chobham Lane, which had the codename "Burlington". The American efforts for composite armour were in 1958 [LINK REMOVED]. The Soviets putting it on tanks in 1964 when it appeared in mass production, so their date is some point before then (by years). The UK were investigating it in 1969 [LINK REMOVED]. I can’t see how we were first? Perhaps there is a document I am missing that is dated before then that you can find? I am open to evidence of the contrary.

    • @pliat
      @pliat Před 2 lety

      @@DeDyson the first tank with composite armour was the Object 430, and we had created chobham before that. The American T95 tests were unsuccessful so i dont really count them.

  • @yashsingh3126
    @yashsingh3126 Před 3 lety +6

    This is so concise and accurate representation of the comparison between RHA and composite armour! Well done! Kudos to you guys.

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf Před 4 lety +13

    Another key thing is that, with multilayered armor, each steel layer can be hardened as opposed to just the surface of an overall piece. A significant portion of the armor's strength will come from just that small layer of hardening on the surface, so having multiple thinner layers of hardened armor is significantly better than a huge thick piece of armor that's only face hardened.

    • @miguelgameiro8063
      @miguelgameiro8063 Před 5 měsíci

      I’m no expert but hardened plates are more brittle and that implies that the armor would’ve degraded far took quicker if it as all hardened

    • @tomk3732
      @tomk3732 Před 5 měsíci

      @@miguelgameiro8063 If you are not stupid about it, then it will not shatter. German tanks had armor shatter due to luck of proper composition towards end of the war - due to simply running out of stuff.

    • @miguelgameiro8063
      @miguelgameiro8063 Před 5 měsíci

      @@tomk3732 with tick plates if I’m not mistaken you can make them Harvey or cemented where in the same thick plate the face is extremely hardened but the rest of the thickness is far softer to avoid the plate from cracking

  • @Block1618
    @Block1618 Před 4 lety +10

    That was really scientific, thank you I appreciated it. I think adding compression to the sides would be critical to improve performance significantly at minimal additional weight. Obviously thin layers of plastic and glue would help spread the force out too.

  • @justinscott1691
    @justinscott1691 Před 3 lety +2

    One of the best armour test vids currently on the Internet, thanks mate.

  • @jordans6146
    @jordans6146 Před 4 lety

    I’ve been looking for a channel that properly shows this in an experiment very happy man

  • @SvenTviking
    @SvenTviking Před 4 lety +37

    “Chob-ham”, not “Chobe-ham”. It’s a place, in Surrey, UK.

    • @alexgcampbell2000
      @alexgcampbell2000 Před 4 lety +1

      SvenTviking was gonna write this myself lol

    • @oneshotweeb5923
      @oneshotweeb5923 Před 4 lety

      Kobam

    • @TheBloodypete
      @TheBloodypete Před 4 lety +1

      More Ch-Ob-Em, bit of a meh place though :P Most of Surrey is full of rich assholes though, lovely countryside!

    • @jimmylight4866
      @jimmylight4866 Před měsícem

      Hell i thought it was a sandwich.

  • @saml7610
    @saml7610 Před 4 lety +26

    Really cool experiment, interesting stuff to see demonstrated. I've understood how this stuff works since I took my physics classes in college, but it's always cool to see it put into practice. The explanation of what was going on at the end was A+, nice job. It would be interesting to try different materials and stand offs. Empty space can also have a large effect on penetration, as can high density rubbers. The compression of the various layers also plays into it. It would be cool to do some more in depth testing for sure. Modern composites in tank armor are the same in concept, but technologically speaking, they're miles ahead.

  • @darkrage1138
    @darkrage1138 Před 4 lety +1

    Very well done video, very good to the point discussion and you were very clear and concise on every important matter, fantastic to see actual statistic results as well. You earned a subscriber

  • @T3hderk87
    @T3hderk87 Před 4 lety

    Excellent watch, I do enjoy the time you took to set this all up. Thank you!

  • @hallofo8107
    @hallofo8107 Před 4 lety +6

    Excellent video Jackal! I really like to see normal folks doing real research like this. If I may make a few suggestions/observations:
    - I _really_ appreciate the charts you compiled. Very excellent.
    - Perhaps some form of epoxy can be used to bond the composite layers together? This will prevent the uncontrolled variable of air gaps (ex: @7:15)
    - In line with the above, implementing air gaps might prove useful behind the ceramic layers. This would allow for further energy drain from the projectile and give the shattered ceramic even more surface area to effect.
    - Exactly how the _FORNICATE_ do you have less than 2k subs? Your content is seriously top-notch.
    - After you're satisfied with the "composition" aspect of armor, maybe we can look at angling?
    Keep up the good work!

    • @jackalmountain6523
      @jackalmountain6523  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks for the feed back! Apparently using a rubber layer behind the ceramic is common in tanks, I'd imagine it would be like an air gap to best expand the surface area of teh shattering ceramic. On my channel theres a similar test of sloped armor I did last year.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp Před 5 měsíci +1

      Rubber is indeed as useful layering material. Another option for holding materials together as a coating is polyurea truck bed liner. It can be sprayed on to glass or ceramic inserts for example or even the metal layers too.

  • @sebekglab
    @sebekglab Před 4 lety +4

    Greate presentation.
    Just to point out that early Chobham (Abrams cutaway) is composed from two plates with polymer rubber like material in between . Burlington use hard ceramic pressed and glued in steel matrix. Apparently very important aspect of it is that ceramic is compress by steel matrix greatly increasing strength.
    Try to use polymer glue/sealant to stick your ceramic between steel plates , and try to bolt it together to provide compression in one axis.

    • @jackalmountain6523
      @jackalmountain6523  Před 4 lety +3

      I'll try that. Thanks!

    • @sebekglab
      @sebekglab Před 4 lety +1

      @@jackalmountain6523 Have look on product called CT1 , probably nearest thing to Polymer used in Chobham NERA

    • @sebekglab
      @sebekglab Před 4 lety

      @@komradearti9935 I think it cod -names represent different solutions, and generations of those solutions. I read about it in some Polish source researching advanced amour program in UK. Autor mention Chobcham in regard of NERA , and Burlington utilizing Ceramic under compression.

    • @sebekglab
      @sebekglab Před 4 lety

      @@komradearti9935 I would love to read full document with was obtained under freedom of information act ,(one containing cutaway of armor), as this is probably primary source. Any links out there?

    • @sebekglab
      @sebekglab Před 4 lety +1

      @@komradearti9935 Yes , you absolutely right. just found that: below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2016/03/chobham-armor-facts-and-fiction-1.html
      So Burlington was cod -name for of NERA system with was given to Americns.

  • @emilioortega3612
    @emilioortega3612 Před rokem

    This was perfectly showcased and condensed, very comestible. Thank you :)

  • @ideadlift20kg83
    @ideadlift20kg83 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The glass surprised me, wow! This is all so interesting lol

  • @bautistahernandezfernandoa85

    0:27
    Infantry protection, ok this got dark very quick

  • @sclm55
    @sclm55 Před 4 lety +4

    Very interesting and informative. Different to be sure. Physics - got to love it. When you began to explain how and why the composites do what they do, that made the video even more interesting and informative. Thanks.

  • @johnmosesbrowning1855
    @johnmosesbrowning1855 Před 4 lety +1

    People like you make CZcams great. Thanks for the nice video, enjoyed it very much. Regards from germany.

  • @longtabsigo
    @longtabsigo Před 3 lety

    You knocked this out of the park! I’ve never been able to visualize how this works.... you made ie so easy even an old salty dog like me was able to (FINALLY) understand. Thank you.

  • @HK-bi2gy
    @HK-bi2gy Před 4 lety +32

    awesome video :) i wonder what would happen if you were to add a layer of fiberglass and resin to hold the ceramic together?

    • @alexdunphy3716
      @alexdunphy3716 Před 4 lety +4

      That stuff is great at stopping bullets too. The Russians used a version on their first composite tanks called texolite. It has better multi hit resistance than ceramics but idk if the protection vs weigh is as good

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 Před 4 lety

      @@alexdunphy3716 I couldn´t find what textolite is. Do you know anything more specific?

    • @alexdunphy3716
      @alexdunphy3716 Před 4 lety

      @@edi9892 I probably didn't remember the name correctly. I'll see if I can find a link

    • @alexdunphy3716
      @alexdunphy3716 Před 4 lety +4

      @@edi9892 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_K
      The laminate glass reinforced plastic is sometimes called textolite

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 Před 4 lety

      @@alexdunphy3716 thank you!

  • @alexanderrad3458
    @alexanderrad3458 Před 4 lety +10

    You should try an angle grinder blade, as it has SiC.

  • @nopushbutton
    @nopushbutton Před 4 lety

    Great test and excellent, concise, and clear explanation with good visual aids! Thanks

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 Před 4 lety +1

    Very interesting video especially as we can see the target as it is hit rather than have to wait, good experiment. Well done.

  • @MrThewetsheep
    @MrThewetsheep Před 4 lety +4

    I would be interested in seeing if spacing out the tiles would improve the performance since the projectiles would start to tumble and possibly break up. The old saying goes you trade weight for bulk with composite armor.

    • @pweter351
      @pweter351 Před 4 lety

      Ceramic better up close imo space the steel layers

  • @JamesCZFEA
    @JamesCZFEA Před 3 lety +3

    You should contain the ceramic in the composite target. when the bullet impacts, it pushes the tile out to the sides and has minimal ersion on the projectile. I would recommend using fiberglass to wrap the steel and ceramic tiles together. This also helps with multihit protection.

  • @mauriciomorais7818
    @mauriciomorais7818 Před 4 lety +1

    You're an excellent weapons and armor tester!
    Keep up the good work, it's very interesting!

  • @ea9660
    @ea9660 Před 5 měsíci

    One of the best videos Ive seen in a long time.

  • @renzocoppola4664
    @renzocoppola4664 Před 4 lety +13

    good enough, though ceramics should always face the front

    • @JarlBSoD
      @JarlBSoD Před 4 lety +2

      And hopefully not be made of clay floortiles. :)

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Před 4 lety +1

      "good enough" Rifle shot as a simulation of shaped charge? Are you kiding me? heh

  • @jaykilbourne1110
    @jaykilbourne1110 Před 4 lety +3

    @0:16 that Is NOT the Frontal plate of a T-64, silly. That's a cutaway of T-62M's BDD applique armor.

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 Před 4 lety

    I've been thinking about the stuff for the last 25 years and I'm 3 minutes and 40 seconds into this video....
    I think this is going to kick ass!!!!!!!

    • @1joshjosh1
      @1joshjosh1 Před 3 lety

      @@komradearti9935
      Oh my goodness that's more information about the t-72 then a guy could have in a lifetime!
      Thank you very much for sending me that.
      👍👍👍👍

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 Před 4 lety

    Another interesting, informative and entertaining video on this thought provoking topic.

  • @ryaeon9793
    @ryaeon9793 Před 4 lety +3

    but can that thin armor on tank still perform bounce?
    what in my mind is that AP shell will shreck that armor like paper.. but who use AP sell in 2020 anyway..

    • @sanderpanderpei
      @sanderpanderpei Před 4 lety

      Ryae on we do use AP rounds today, the APFSDS. It pretty much looks like a giant metal arrow, but against that they mostly use spaced armor to make the round lose it course (: look at the front of the Leo2a5 tank turret, theres only air in there, but there is enough space in there to make the round lose its course which makes it also lose alot of its penetration (: hope this helps!

    • @ryaeon9793
      @ryaeon9793 Před 4 lety

      @@sanderpanderpei yeah.. but my guess that in the future.. we will use AP type shell.. but with bigger round size maybe 5-10 ton or more weight. and shoot it from across the continent to other continent with orbital fall or something.
      (i think i watch a video that the shell become liquid if they travel that fast because to hot.)
      can you intercept something that fast and heavy. and straight from orbit?

    • @sanderpanderpei
      @sanderpanderpei Před 4 lety

      Ryae on well theres no point to develop that, we already have missiles that do that and do way more damage already, so no i highly doubt a tank will shoot a 5-10 ton round. If that does happen then yeah we might have stuff to intercept that yeah

    • @ryaeon9793
      @ryaeon9793 Před 4 lety

      @@sanderpanderpei well if missiles still use computer chip or something as component it can still be reroute or premature explode maybe with new technology. (drone with scrambling signal or something near missile trajectory)
      because who didnt want to know how to intercept missile without using another missile? less money is win.
      because the one who cant be reroute or something is kinetic gun. maybe railgun?

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před 4 lety

      Zlaapy Typico Leopards armor is simple to counter. All you need is a longer penetrator and it won't turn.

  • @tacpaws
    @tacpaws Před 4 lety +3

    pretty cool dude!!! keep it up the extra information is very nice aswel

  • @b.k6307
    @b.k6307 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video I've always wanted to understand the complexity tank armor and penetration you did an amazing job 👍

  • @spartan9458
    @spartan9458 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for finally explaning this in a way that fully details it without being overly technical and relying solely on terms. seeing this in action is fantastic. The only other ways I've seen this is people showing off commercial armor plates. I really like how you used your own materials for this test.
    I also want to point out that the same M855 out of a 20" barrel will penetrate the 1/2 inch steel plate, But in my case I have a similar setup rifle to you with a 16" barrel and It's been hard to find a good comparison because most people use either a BCM 11" or 14.5" barrel or the M16 style 20" barrel for these tests. Thank you!

  • @crqf2010ruler
    @crqf2010ruler Před 4 lety +3

    0:33 Bruh moment @ Soviets

  • @johnkleptz6261
    @johnkleptz6261 Před 4 lety +5

    Sorry, but this does not represent shaped charges or HEAT “ High Explosive Anti Tank “. That, I’d like to see.

    • @Jason-tp5cb
      @Jason-tp5cb Před 4 lety +5

      Why don't you try legally obtaining a HEAT/HEAT-FS round at a reasonable time and price? Maybe you would like to fund him?

    • @nikolairomanov4496
      @nikolairomanov4496 Před 4 lety

      @@Jason-tp5cb you can make them with existing materials, but the problem is indeed legality. BATF will take everything you own for something like that, done wrong.

    • @johnkleptz6261
      @johnkleptz6261 Před 4 lety

      I never meant for him to go all out crazy. I just wanted to make the point that armor piercing is not the same as HEAT. Maybe a cutting torch with a custom tip could replicate the effect on his lighter, miniature representations.

    • @nikolairomanov4496
      @nikolairomanov4496 Před 4 lety

      @@johnkleptz6261 not the way that heat works, heat is the actual kinetic force of that superheated jet that does the penetration. The fact that it's very hot is secondary

  • @UrsaMajorPrime
    @UrsaMajorPrime Před 3 lety

    That was exactly what I was looking for, nicely done.

  • @aatkarelse8218
    @aatkarelse8218 Před 4 lety +1

    and done, fascinating stuff man ! cant wait till your next experiment !

  • @noheadgaming7393
    @noheadgaming7393 Před 4 lety +31

    Protectin your tank
    Germany: Schürtzen
    USA. sandbags ore tracks
    Russia:
    poor 18yo guy: we defeat the Nazis and return home safely
    tank commander: you know the rules so do I

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker Před 4 lety +5

      The infantry was less there to eat rockets as it was to look around, pop targets and then dismount for the final assault. Desantniki were a pretty good idea and used by pretty much everyone in somewhat different ways. The Americans even installed a .50 cal on the back of the turrets of their tanks for infantry riding desant to use. Albeit, unlike the Russians, I don't think the US ever trained specific units with the intent to fight that way - that was simply a marriage of convenience.

    • @efirizaki5656
      @efirizaki5656 Před 4 lety

      Rasist as fuck

  • @mrnickbig1
    @mrnickbig1 Před 4 lety +3

    AR-15s are NOT DIRECT IMPINGEMENT! Direct impingement would have the gas tube act directly on the bolt carrier, like a Rashid. Instead, the gas is directed into a cylinder/piston arrangement inside the bolt carrier.

  • @eaar
    @eaar Před 2 lety

    wonderful video, I love the extra attention and effort to maintain a scientific process throughout the demonstration. This is an awesome video.

  • @fatsc6h6
    @fatsc6h6 Před 4 lety

    Very well explained . The use of tables and diagram meant virtually instant understanding . Bingo

  • @StoneCoolds
    @StoneCoolds Před 4 lety +8

    0:32 Protection against shape charges warheads:
    Germany: spaced armor
    Usa: sand bags
    Soviet Union: MOUNTED PATRIOTS!

    • @SupremelyDelicious
      @SupremelyDelicious Před 4 lety +2

      Well for some reason spaced armour and sand bags can't provide covering fire

  • @danielmarshall4587
    @danielmarshall4587 Před 6 měsíci

    Revisiting your vid, again thank you for your time and effort.

  • @elblitzb
    @elblitzb Před 2 lety

    Dude ....that was clear as a summer sky!!
    Excelent explanation!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
    Pure science btw

  • @gabrielmarvipolinga6669

    I've learned more stuff in this 12 minute video than I'll ever learn from a day of a regular class.

  • @WorldClassPanda
    @WorldClassPanda Před 2 lety

    Amazing job at explaining and showing this concept!

  • @the_burger
    @the_burger Před 2 lety

    This is hell of a lot of fun. Thanks for the amazing video.

  • @adrianfarr9927
    @adrianfarr9927 Před 4 měsíci

    Great demo using the different "armour" compositions. An interesting and well put together video.

  • @COUNTVLAIDMIR
    @COUNTVLAIDMIR Před 4 lety

    Good vid. Now this is what I call truly educational.

  • @walangchahangyelingden8252

    Great work. Thank you for this explanation.

  • @zedianavizora2041
    @zedianavizora2041 Před 2 měsíci

    bless you bro, really good information you give..straight to the point

  • @Ksduke10
    @Ksduke10 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent demonstration!

  • @tiadanama1998
    @tiadanama1998 Před 2 lety

    Really good explanation. Understand it to the fullest

  • @travian821
    @travian821 Před 4 lety

    Very cool material, theory and practice beautifully explained

  • @major_kukri2430
    @major_kukri2430 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is a great demonstration

  • @UtubeEric12345
    @UtubeEric12345 Před 5 měsíci

    Very nice video! Very good combination of theory and practical demonstrations! And it must have taken a lot of time just finding all of the illustrations used here, and editing them in. But in my opinion that time was well spent, I screenshoted several for future reference. Many thanks for putting this together!

  • @andresanzawa1128
    @andresanzawa1128 Před 2 lety

    Nicely explained! Thank you

  • @aguslucero6699
    @aguslucero6699 Před 4 lety

    Nice work! Please keep these videos coming!

  • @PLUTONIUM1228
    @PLUTONIUM1228 Před 3 lety

    really helpful for understand how does it works !

  • @MrWarwick15
    @MrWarwick15 Před 4 lety

    Interesting! Thank you.
    Rich.

  • @toto3777
    @toto3777 Před rokem

    This is very cool. Thank you.

  • @ajuk1
    @ajuk1 Před 4 lety +2

    I would have glued the layers together and or laminated the brittle substances. I wonder if you used a layer kevlar, then hardened aluminium followed by a ceramic and then a layer of titanium and then sloped it to 60° to see what's the lightest armour you can make to stop a 50cal.

  • @codyboyer3250
    @codyboyer3250 Před 4 lety +1

    I love this video. But one thing struck my mind that i would LOVE to see and so others could as well. Since we are talking about tanks here i would love to see the spalling effect if penetrated. Paper behind the target to show the deadly spread that is reduced by the series of protection shown in your video.

  • @ddelv1601
    @ddelv1601 Před dnem

    That was a pretty cool demo.
    It would have been interesting to see how an adhesive between the ceramic and metal would have affected the outcome.

  • @vangard9725
    @vangard9725 Před rokem +1

    To improve the backplate denting you can add a soft resin layer between the tiles it give the same effect as making the back plate thicker while being lighter

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Před rokem

    This is fascinating 🤔 Awesome video!

  • @vladislavshevchenko9970
    @vladislavshevchenko9970 Před 4 měsíci

    In our armored vests we use composite armor but a slightly different one. Its thin aramide, thick steel, medium aramide. The point is to absorb the splashes of Steel on the impact and avoid ricochets, stop the bullet or at least turn it into small fragments before exiting through the steel plate. Medium thickness aramide is thete to catch steel fragments which made it through the steel plate.

  • @davidkueny2444
    @davidkueny2444 Před 4 lety +2

    To my understanding, the big thing in Chobham armor is spaced NERA plates - basically, rubber sandwiched between steel plates, then empty space, then another rubber-steel sandwich, then more empty space, etc. The idea being that the incoming jet from the shaped charge will compress the rubber, which will "bounce" the steel plates outward, which can disrupt the jet.
    Bullets are a lot shorter and slower, so I don't know if you could have tested this kind of composite armor effectively.

  • @danielmarshall4587
    @danielmarshall4587 Před 4 lety

    WOW , VERY INTERESTING Thank you great vid.

  • @Marc83Aus
    @Marc83Aus Před 3 lety

    An additional variable is literal spaces between the Armour layers. giving additional time and space for the shock cone of shrapnel to spread out further which dissipates the energy over an even larger area.

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers Před 8 měsíci

    You're the man. Keep this up!

  • @edgdula8549
    @edgdula8549 Před 4 lety

    SUPERB!!! THANK YOU, Ed

  • @TimPiatek
    @TimPiatek Před 3 lety +2

    Love the talking voice and tone. I suspect effectiveness of the ceramic insert would be enhanced significantly if it were bound tightly between plates - is it was, upon fracture, it was allowed to shoot out the top and bottom. Merely adding a frame that could put some compressive force on the tile, along with taking up any loose space with a non-compressable filler (truck bed liner would be ideal, but even spray rubber should help) should increase reliability, perhaps making it multi-shot proof. Final thought is that using an array of smaller tiles would help to limit the extent of fracturing from the first shot. Perhaps a plate of sand bound with as little plastic as possible? Certainly not much fracturing to worry about if the medium is ductile enough...

    • @TimPiatek
      @TimPiatek Před 3 lety +1

      Ah, I see you discuss some of these things later in the video. Serves me right for not watching all the way through ;-)

  • @VileMisanthropy
    @VileMisanthropy Před 4 lety +2

    I think the ceramic should be encased so the energy from the bullet entry doesnt just blow it out the open edges. Either epoxy to hold them together or box them in with weld.

  • @maroman556
    @maroman556 Před 4 lety +1

    Neat test. I'd like to see the plates and ceramic laminated together with epoxy or fiberglass. I think it would take a lot more energy if it does not get to slip out of the side so easily. Thanks for your demonstration.

  • @joshbarbone189
    @joshbarbone189 Před 3 lety

    You are an excellent teacher

  • @SomebodySomehow-md5xx
    @SomebodySomehow-md5xx Před 2 měsíci

    one of the greatest videos i watcht on youtube

  • @Neeverseen
    @Neeverseen Před 4 lety

    You can greatly increase the potential of the ceramic armor if you place the plates inside a container that traps the fragments of the ceramic between the steel plates instead of letting them escape out the sides. That's the change that brought 2nd gen ceramic composite armor into existence.
    There is one additional effect ceramic armor has on projectlies. Not only does it shatter the projectile but even "contaminates" it, penetrating it and forming craters on it's surface which increase the surface area thus decreasing stability and penetration potential even further.

  • @gabrielmarvipolinga6669

    This is a very impressive and informative video

  • @hermanman8235
    @hermanman8235 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the info.never imagined a humble ceramic tile can actually STOP a bullet.

  • @theq4602
    @theq4602 Před 4 lety +1

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR!

  • @arty5279
    @arty5279 Před 3 lety

    fantastic video honestly, well done

  • @YahudiDestroyer
    @YahudiDestroyer Před 5 měsíci

    nice video straight to the point

  • @annestyk
    @annestyk Před 11 měsíci

    Great Video, tahnks so much! I was looking for just this information today, thanks! ^_^

  • @mackjsm7105
    @mackjsm7105 Před 5 měsíci

    Dude!! What a GREAT vid!!!! simple and to the point New Sub!