German Drilling Maintenance: Anvil 0132
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2023
- Frozen firing pins, incorrectly cut chambers, and dried on gack are just par for the course. NOT a tutorial...we show what you need to learn, not how to do . Cannot perform at this level? Do NOT attempt. Support us: / anvil
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There is a Drilling and a Vierling but no "Zweiling". Those two barrel guns are:
- a Doppelflinte (two side by side smooth bore barrels)
- a Doppelbüchse (two side by side rifled baŕrels)
- a Bockdoppelflinte (two smooth bore barrels on top of each other)
- a Bockdoppelbüchse (two rifled barrels on top of each other)
And Serveral iterations like Bockbüchsflinte
Hands down the most beautiful firearm ive ever seen.
To Drilling owners and possibly soon Drilling owners i have a warning in case you didnt know. I found out the hard way. There is a condition when the hammer sits on the rifles firing pin and pushes it out of the face. If you try and close the drilling in this condition the hardened tip of the firing pin snaps clean off. It happens when you start playing around, pulling triggers without the barrels attached and stuff like that. Just stick to the manual, never pull any triggers exept you have a round in the chamber and you intend to shoot something.
Can you imagine the HOURS of machine work and HOURS of engraving this weapon has.If built today (If you could find people to do this level work) it would be a 6 Digit price.
You want a idea of what kind of work a modern day engraver can do? Joe Rundell , google him... AND the masterpieces he does is by hammer and gravers no electronic graver machine for Joe...
Yes, a 6 digit price and the first digit starts with a 5 or above. As a custom gunsmith/gunmaker/engraver it is not unheard of to build a double rifle in the $750k range. The craftsmanship is what you are paying for and the attention to detail will make your head spin.
Not really. At least here in germany you can get a custom engraved Drilling made for less then that.
They are not cheap but will usually go for 30-40k.
Heym is still doing a lot of custom work of a really high quality after all.
For 21,000.00$ you can buy a KIA or 347,000.00$ a Bentley, as you stated above.@@richardkramer1094
@@TheVicVance True what you say, however most are produced in a CNC machine instead of hand made. Big difference.
I have a very similar Dreilling hammer gun. On my gun that square bar that moves with the top lever was broken. Used a square lathe tool bit to fabricate a new one. Same caliber rifle barrel, 9.3x72 R. The chamber accepted the brass sized with RCBS die set with no problems The shotgun chambers measured 2 9/16 not 23/4 using my Brownell’s 16 ga chamber gauge. Used my 16 ga forcing cone reamer to lengthen chambers. Still plenty of wall thickness so no worries using light loads. Barrels clearly marked nitro proofed. Shoots great. Rear sight leaf pops up when I select rifle bbl. Butt stock has a beautiful trap door that pops open when I push the small button. The buttstock accepts 4extra loaded rounds. Loved watching your video. Brought back good memories. I retired my gunsmithing business a few years ago. 48 great years was enough.
Thank You
There is nothing wrong with your chamber. The 9,3x72R has several chamber variations, D= Deutsch, (German), E=English, and N=Normalised. Brass and loaded rounds today will be of the latter. But you can get dies from C-H to make modern brass fit the older chambers. That chamber casting will tell you what you have, (or better still, it will tell C-H what you have. When I did so, they had suitable dies in stock). One early version is a straight tapered case, the other is curved. Hence why you've had to cut the case down. What I did was to measure the diameter every 5mm on my cast, then compare it to the dimensions shown in a cartridge drawing for 9,3x72R D and E. The C-H dies worked a treat to turn modern N into older D dimensions, which is what I had. The Drilling was very easy to load for with correct diameter/weight bullets. The early 9,3mm was a smaller diameter to modern 9,3 such as 9,3x62/9,3x74R, (which bullets can't be used in the older gun). The early bullet has a step instead of a cannelure. So just seat it until the step sits on the case mouth. RWS and S&B both make brass and bullets. It used to be a very popular calibre in it's day.
I am german. Last year in Deutsches Waffenjournal ( oldest german arms magazine)) an article about combinationguns ( Drilling, Vierling, Buchsflinte, Bergstutzen) came. For the reason of changing hunting practice in Germany since late 1990s, the formerly typicsl german combinationguns came out of favour. So used guns of this type are today difficult to sell, especially when using uncommon cartrides or cheaper made ones.
In the article was noted, that there is a german gunmaker/ gunsmith ( in german both is called Büchsenmacher), who buys the today no more popular guns, repairs them and exports them to USA. Because he buys the guns relative cheap, the guns, in USA seen as luxury guns, are now sold affordable for US hunters and collectors. According to the article, there is in USA a collectors Club, which collects german guns, for example Schützenrifles, the members of this Club know the noted german gunmaker.
Greetings, I have an absolutely beautiful gold inlaid double 16ga. by “F. SCHILLING COBURG”. I can’t find anything about him on line or in the books I have on shotguns. Please point me to any history for this master gunmaker. Thank you.
You're right. That's a helluva gun.
Just bought a 16ga Citori this summer. 16 is far from dead.
I have been tinkering with guns since before I was a teenager, and have had to learn by deduction and experience (not always good), and I still love firearms of any description, but now I am old and crippled,and can barely walk out to my shed I get great joy from watching these videos, and learning even more about my favourite subject ! Thanks, Mark ! !
Easily got my thumbs up! This is one of the most interesting, detailed, informative break-down and repair of a antique intricate gun that I have seen. Love the detailed explanations and the time that was put into showing up-close views of things.
A quality dreilling is something I have always wanted in my collection. Even worse is that I specifically want a muzzle loader, preferably with a small game caliber rifle. I live near a state WMA that is restricted to muzzle loaders or rimfire. It’d be a great gun for walking around looking for squirrels and rabbits. Though if it was in a larger rifle caliber I could use the shotgun barrels with slugs during deer season as well.
Beautiful gun by the way!
That rifle firing pin angle is wild, it even leaves a funky imprint in the primer. What an incredible peice.
Just what I needed today. Cheers from WA state.
The Right Hammer is both for the right shotgunbarrel and the rifle barrel. Pushing the trigger forward only activates the "EASYTRIGGER". The right hammer is supposed to hit the little block and push the firepin for the rifle barrel. Have one from 1916. shots 1 inch groups at 80meters with 9,3x72r kaliber😍
"Drilling" is actually the correct German word. "Dreiling" is not really used anymore, with "twin" being called a "Zwilling". Though for small guns "Zwilling" is generally not in use.
This specific gun is a "Klassischer Drilling" (classic drilling; having 2 side by side shotgun barrels with a rifled one below).
There are also "Doppelbüchsdrilling" (2 rifled barrels with a shotgun below), Bockdrilling (3 different calibers below each other), and Vierling (generally 2 shotgun barrels with a smaller rifled above and a bigger rifled below)
As for the two-barreled varieties you have: Bockflinte (over-under shotgun), Bockbüchse (over-under rifle), Querflinte (side-side shotgun), Doppelbüchse (side-side rifle), Bergstutzen (over-under rifle with different calibers), Bockbüchsflinte (shotgun over rifle), and Büchsflinte (shotgun besides rifle)
What a stunning piece of craftsmanship. This is like looking at an old painting in a museum. 👌🏻👍🏻
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Another satisfying half-hour for a Saturday morning. Thank you, Mark, outstanding as always.
Glad you enjoyed it
In today’s world of tacticool plug and play black rifles, I could watch vids of fine old hunting guns all day! Cheers 👍🏼
best filming and presenting of the whole YT !!! no cam shaking no extrem cuts , always good light ...always a bit fun but most time serious ......perfekt to watch....from austria
I love it all. The trouble shooting, the grimy detective work that goes into it, and of course the finishing. Nothing quite like it in any other craft. Your videos do capture the vibes well.
I mean you say that but all he did was clean the gun and then put the wrong caliber in the rifle barrel and say there was a problem even tho the caliber on the rifle barrel is plastered on the side of the barrel
I have two Drillings. One is 12x12- 8x57jrs hammerless. The other is a 16x16- 10.4x82 hammer gun and is an absolute work of art. They have become my go to all around hunting guns. The quality of craftsmanship and the quality of the materials used in constructing them is superior to any other gun I have. You get a whole lot of gun in a 7 lbs package. If I can manage to get my hands on a Vierling with a 22 lr barrel in the rib for the right price I'd jump. That would be the ultimate piece. Thank you for what you are doing Mr. Novak. I appreciate your detailed explanations. The 12 Ga Drilling I have came to me in the white with not a spec of finish left on the barrels. Thanks to you showing me on youtube how to rust blue the tubes she looks like she just left the factory in 1923. I still need to get the case hardening and charcoal bluing figured out, but that's next on my list!
What a beautiful rifle, such workmanship was put into making this rifle. it looks like it came out of a mold
Great example of troubleshooting and proving the problem before moving to the next step.
When I lived in Germany in the 70s the standard deal with Drillings was to fit a .22 converter in one of the shotgun barrels. You were then ready for anything.. usually an 8mm rifle, 16 bore shotgun or a .22 for a quick rabbit..!
My usual game gun is a 16.. can't be beat for Pheasant IMHO, though the upcoming lead ban in UK is going to screw me as it has Damascus barrels...
im glad they still make 16, because I shorten those brass to use in my 1848 blackpowder dutch snider
Mark, I have been a gunsmith for about 17 years. I trained under a couple of Amazing gunsmiths dealing with title II weapons and I have to admit, you are by far the best gunsmith I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing his work. My hats off to you!!! JB From Gastonia NC
i bought a german side by sude for $600 few years ago.. had engraving all over just like this one... heavy engraving, all oveer everything, and it took me awhile but i found it was made in feb 1942 16ga. It has a broken stock split right inside in the front all the way through to the wrist.. nearly broken in half, someone tried to glue back, but i had to drill into a side and add wooden dowels with glue, and this fixed it, then added walnut plugs and lint seed oil to get it to match as close as possible. Tested it with 1 shot each then 2 shots together and it held. Ive put maybe 200 rounds through it so far... Im glad i fixed it, its a nice peice of history and even though some purists might be mad i drilled to dowel it... there was no other way to fix this..
I also had to add a 1900 remington safety spring, its original was broken, and i had to carve in the stock to fit the spring.. Now the safety works again... 1 trigger was broken as well, the other barely hanging on.. So i welded the triggers back together and filed em down smooth... I think i did a great job fixing this, considering im not a gun smith and never worked on guns before.
Only thing i didnt like about your video was your screw driver bits were too small for some screws. this damaged the engraved screws... its best to get a screw driver and file it down to fit the screws right
Those screws were all pretty loose after letting them sit with kroil on them for multiple days as he said in the video...
As always, beyond excellent.
Well said!
It's nice to see all these videos of you fixing high end fancy guns but a lot of your viewers are the common man hunters! It would be nice to see you work on some lower end guns that we can relate to! Fix or refurbish some of the big box store guns of the 60's and 70's that have been passed down to sons and grandsons and are starting to wear parts! I think your subscribers would go through the roof with some short videos of you fixing some common man guns! You do great work, keep it up!
He works on the guns he gets paid to work on.
I have never had any interest in double shotguns and drillings but your videos has presented them as a very interesting mechanical subject. I also love your gunsmithing videos.
Perfect timing. I own a very similar drilling. A little older in damascus, 10x10x45-70. Sidelever action, exactly the same mechanics. I think you are the very first 'youtube' gunsmith to demonstrate this involved teardown. Thank you very much sir. You are a tremendous wealth of gun knowledge.
Watching your videos just verifies to me how much I don’t know about firearms and how much I enjoy learning about them.
As always, It's been a pleasure. *sips night cap
There's several versions of the 9.3x72R. Early, before they standarized the cartridge, you had 9.3x72R G(german), 9.3x72R E(english), and later the Normalized version we see today. I also belive there where different max loads for these different versions, but it should be checked out. RWS and S&B sells brass.
The engraving on that gun is absolutely beautiful. I'm only a few minutes in to this, but I hope you get this looking brand new again.
Marks favorite words, “im not hitting it real hard… just tappin it.” 👌
Accurate, no?
Thanks Mark, I too have an Emil Kerner with a firing issue, great to hear your train of thought
Very interesting. You do an excellent job of explaining what you’re doing and why and you’re very good at explaining how the firearm works. Thank you very much for taking the time to produce your video. Great editing too. We’re from Missouri, the show me state.
I just made delicious breakfast and there's Mark's new video. I couldn't be happier! Greetings from Finland! :)
Great gun, great job, german and US master craftsman meet and have a great time. Thank you very much for the film.
This couldn't be in better hands. What a beauty
Leave it to the Germans to make a beautiful peace of kit thank you for bringing us along. Six stars sir
Beautiful piece there. A true work of art. Thanks for sharing.
You pronounced "Drilling" really okay. There is no ei/ai in it, just an "i".
What you got in your hands there is the wet dream of the old, rich german hunting men.
Love your channel and the way you explain your skills!
Greetings from Germany!
FYI: S&B sells 9.3 x 72R cartridges.
Always good to see classic guns in put in working order.
What gorgeous piece. There is more art to engineering than we usually notice.
Every single video of yours is entertainment and educational. Thank you for sharing.
PS: What a beautiful shotgun/rifle.
Thanks for watching!
Another great show shipmate. Thanks for the information and entertainment. As usual watching an expert is amazing.
Gorgeous gun. Wonderful craftsmanship. Thank you for the video.
So beautiful! Drillings are absolutely the BOMB!!!
It *is* in fact pronounced _drilling_ (“triplet”), even though the number 3 is pronounced _dry._
Beautiful three barrel. Thanks Mark. Great work.
"This is cooler." Heh, always good to hear Mark's frankness 🙂
What a wonderfully intricate firearm, thanks for showing it to us.
Always a pleasure learning under you. Thanks
I have never shot a gun, but I absolutely love watching your videos. So cool!
The complexity of these old guns amaze me! Not to mention the fine engraving on them. I can't imagine what it'd cost to build one today if you could even find someone to do it. It'd be a 6 figure price all day long!
An absolutely fascinating episode. Thank you for posting this.
The is a beautiful firearm. I love the elegant action. Thank you for the neat presentation.
👍love to watch your mad skills Mark!
We use a casting compound called ReprRubber for measuring in our machine shop. Comes in liquid and puddy. Very accurate and easy to use. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Mark I have been looking forward to seeing another video from you 😊😊👍👍
Pronouncing it like you did the first time is correct. It's like the English word "drilling" meaning to drill. Same with Zwilling... Und wieder was gelernt!
We need the part 2 to this mark !!
Agree. We have the correct reamer and projectiles also. Time will tell how this plays out
One of your best videos. It is a stunning gun which you would expect from the Germans. Excellent video good work.
I had a similar issue for my old German double. As I was told that while there was a 9.3x74r etc there was not true standardization between manufacturers so there were slight variations. Luckily for me, a standard 9.3x74r case worked perfectly even if it was sized slightly in between a few case dimensions.
That gun is truly a work of art.
The fact that it IS the definition of pointless crap makes me love it, I can also relate on a spiritual level.
Always fixing the cool stuff that’s why I watch your video
Thank you as always for sharing your knowledge and documenting this for the future. 🙏🏻👏🏻
My pleasure
Beautiful gun wow . And what an engineering job good luck putting it together 😊
A friend of mine when we were in Germany in 90s ordered one of these. The maker had him there to be fitted for it, the time from ordering to deliver was over a year totally hand built the price then was over $3500.°° they are works of art.
This is a modern production firearm?!?
The one in the video probably isn't but they are still made.
Great film. Thanks for posting, most enjoyable and informative.
If Mark would find in His backyard a broken Terminator model 101, He could fix that thing with the same tools.
That’s a thing of immense beauty
Never fail to show what a troubleshooter you are (see what I did there, lol), great vid as usual.
When i worked for a gun retailer, drillings were pretty much the only shotguns that used 16 gauge, and a lot of them were 16 gauge or smaller, im guessing it is to save weight, i think 16 is also more popular in central Europe, they typically had shorter barrels as well. These guns weren't made for wing shooting like an English side by side.
Red dot is my favorite, The Load by Ed Harris is used in pretty much all of my surplus rifles
Makes an LC Smith look like a bank vault! You kill me!!
Wish I was younger, would have loved apprenticeship with you!! ha
Love to have a drilling, and that one looks fantastic with is small round body action!!
Great now I want a Drilling............ Thanks again Mr. Novak
learned again; thanks for showing the bismuth casting.
How have I not come across you before... freaking CZcams algorithm fills my feed with nonsense then out of the blue: gold.
More of this Mr. Algorithm. More of this please.
What an awesome piece of history
As a collector and conservator of dreillings what I can tell you is most of them were made by apprentice gunsmiths to obtain their Master Gunsmith certification. Although many parts were commercially available for these guns the guns themselves were hand made, there was machining in the manufacture of these guns. Barrels were commercially available along with the quarter ribs, locks, hammers, triggers, etc. however the gunsmith used hand files, drills and bits, and even did the engraving with a hammer and graver. Oftentimes there is the name of the Gunsmith or the original owner engraved in the quarter rib. These guns are an example of attention to detail.
Thanks for all that information.
My Dad brought the one I have back from Germany at the end of WWII.
Way to beautiful to shoot and risk damage to it.
Really like hearing about all the interest in these weapons.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and inspiring folks to do the same
You bet
Thank you. Glad to be a patreon patron.
A 16ga is a cross between a heavy 20ga, and a light 12 ga. 16s are hard hitting, andvthe shotgun that shoots them are a little lighter, and faster swinging.
Refinishing piano keys as a young man makes me appreciate watching your program 6:59
It's always a pleasure Mark. Thanks.
A genius designed that drilling! I had reason to look for 9.2X72R the other day, and was surprised to both find it, and find it affordable, as was 9.3X74R a cliber I have always wished I owned a rifle in. If you have no need for Bismuth in your life, are you really living? My first gun was a 16, and I still have it. A fine round.
Well done Mark!
ugh i wish we could have more mark novak videos
Fantastic, enjoyed the heck out of that one, thanks 😊
I love the 16 ga.
thank you mark as always thank you for your awesome knowledge best in the business
Bockdoppelbüchse - two barreled Rifle (over and under).
Bock (over and under) + doppel (two or double barrel) + büchse (Rifle)
Dopplebüchse - two barreled Rifle (side by side)
Then there are variations. If the word Flinte is in the name it means it’s a combination of rifle (Büchse) and Shotgun (Flinte)
Bockbüchsflinte for example is a twobarreld firearm with a rifle and Shotgun combination. Rifle on top and shotgun underneath.
Thats a beautiful gun, and great condition. Would like more info on the (re) chambering, sizing process. Great work as usual,,,Izzy,,,,
As usual a very informative and entertaining video. Please consider doing an American drilling by Frank Hollenbeck circa 1900-1910.
Great episode! Thank you sincerely!
Love Mark's mil-spec slang. "This makes an LC Smith look like a bank vault"