A Long Forgotten RTS Video Game Classic
Vložit
- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Howdy Folks and welcome! If you're a fan of real time strategy games or Sci Fi and haven't played Red Alert 2, I highly recommend picking this up on steam.
Today we'll be exploring what makes this game a classic and how it's been forgotten compared to it's other competitors.
Join us in this red journey across the world to fight communists, capitalists and everything in between. This is Red Alert 2.
0:00 Intro
2:10 Why it's a Classic/Premise
3:50 Visual Design
5:38 Sound Design
6:15 Story
11:26 Outro/Timeless Classic - Hry
Howdy Folks! Thanks for stopping by! I can't believe I never played the Red Alert series as a kid. I have loved RTS games ever since Starcraft, and I was so happy to find a game that encompassed so many aspects of a great time. From it's cutscenes to the music, I couldn't get enough of Red Alert 2. I hope you join me in the journey of remembering why this is a classic game, and its subsequent obfuscation. Hope this finds you well.
All the best,
Dog Dad Studios
Had to buy the whole collection for C&C Red Alert 2 and Generals
I swear Steam sales are the way to go for older games, I wouldn't have picked it up without that and having the Poll a week back. Which one is your favorite? Hope all is well!
Yeah I skipped it.
It was a cheap money grab.
Both games have fantastic multiplayer.
Generals - PVP
RA2 winth COOP campaign!
Multiplayer is not working in the collection.
@@1337Jogi I hope to play the multiplayer. I wish I could play against friends, I don’t think I can convince people into RTS games except Warno, and a co op campaign sounds so cool! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Turning the Eifel Tower in to a Tesla tower was definitely my favourite part of this game
It’s so over the top that it works, thanks for stopping by!
RTS should come back into the gaming zeitgeist
Oh absolutely! I still play SC2 sometimes just for the fun of it
True, game is not forgotten, whole genre is
@@aspanger It's so sad that this is true. I've been having fun with Warno, but it's a bit different than older RTS titles. Thanks for stopping by!
Age of Empires 2 never died
@@BirbarianHomeGuard Aoe and Starcraft are doing well, but RTS as a genre in gaming compared to the 2000's has greatly diminished. I'm not saying that's all RTS, but we usually don't get large budget AAA RTS titles; I think it was an ex blizzard employee has a youtube video about how Blizzard made more money on a WoW item in a day then all of SC2 sales. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment!
"No, Comrade Premier. It has only begun"
*epic guitar noises
"This is Sam. Like *Uncle* Sam."
Such great lines! Thanks for stopping by!
Well, this game certainly is not a forgotten gem. It actually has quite a large following even now.
As I say in the video, it might have a player base, but compared to AoE 2 or StarCraft with prize pools, remasters, and their publisher/developers on board. I have no hope in EA lol but the remaster in 2020 was well done, so maybe there is a chance. Thanks for taking the time to comment
@dog.dad.studios your title is... "A long forgotten..." it's not, nor has been.
@@Wrong_dongle isn’t that from individual perspective, I understand it was a popular game back when you played it. Almost 25 years later, there are so many people that don’t know about this game, hence the title
WestWood Stios's C&C RA2 was the gateway into the RTS genre for me.
I know that SC EoE and other great games existed before that but they seemed kind of intimidating to get into - until RA2 came along and opened that door.
Its truly a great game, and a great franchise that deserved better than it got in the end.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, I truly appreciate you sharing this memory!
I’m so glad this was the gateway, it’s so fun to hear what those games are for others since we have all different stories. I truly hope EA recognizes that the franchise is ready for another spotlight, especially with all the geopolitical stuff happening. Crossing my fingers, thanks again for taking the time to comment, means a lot!
Are you playing any RTS games now?
@@Dog.Dad.Studios No prob. Video was cool so I dropped a comment. - keep em coming
C&C Fanboy reporting for duty!
Arlighty so You were mostly on point with the lore but there's more to it
Before I continue C&C Lore 101, The games are divided into three continuities
1) The Tiberium Saga, AKA "Command and conquer", The Mainline and the one about Tiberium, Kane, and GDI Vs Brotherhood of NOD, it technically has a loose connection with RA (Kane appears in RA1 soviets and Yuri was going to be a NOD agent in the OG C&C 3). I know this is a RA2 video but in my honest opinion the real best game in the series is C&C 3, RA2 does have arguably the best campaign though and I played a stupid amount of RA3 LAN in college.
2) Red Alert Series: You covered the start of it though the idea was because Stalin had no competition in Europe (WW2 really kicked into high gear when Hitler broke the Molotov Ribbentrop pact and turned on the Soviets, No Hitler? Well now its just everyone vs Stalin! A lot of the wacky tech was based off of cold war conspiracies such as MK Ultra (and Soviet's actual impressive HUMINT) is the inspiration for Mind control tech, The Philadelphia Experiment for the chronosphere, Weather control devices, and so on).
3) Generals: Has nothing to do with the rest of the storyline and was originally going to be its own thing, basically a "Ripped from 2003 headlines" RTS but it was changed to a C&C title later on. Probably the most grounded of the three but still has its wild stuff. The U.S vs China (kind of) vs The "Not Taliban" GLA (Generals 2 was going to replace the U.S with the EU as the U.S was thoroughly wrecked in the expansion and the EU rose in the power vacuum and the war was going to be GLA vs China vs E.U)
Generally in the mainlines having the Allies/GDI/U.S winning and the rest giving a counterstrike in the Expansion (The exception being C&C 3 and Kane's wrath because all three campaigns happen alongside each other and technically 4...which doesn't exist) oftentimes setting up for the sequel.
Now for Red alert 2. The setup is after the allies won The Second Great war and Stalin's defeat (Red Alert 1) which was basically WW2 but worse and concentrated in Europe, The U.S taking advantage of the situation (They didnt get involved in the first game until later in the expansions) More or less kept Russia as a Puppet State with the Romanovs being put back into power. The Russians began to resent this and basically undermined and built up several second and third world nations as the "World Socialist Alliance" and quietly built up a massive army. A combination of that, and Yuri inventing Mind control to frustrate allied intelligence (and having them happily pass along state secrets) allowed Russia to effectively set up an invasion of the U.S which is where everything begins! The allies struggle to keep it together as they are all fighting in their own back yards and the Soviets have their own internal political struggles and now you got Red Alert 2!
I can't put my thanks into words for the time it took you to write all of this. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. Now this is a story! They seriously went all out with this and you did such an excellent job at summarizing everything in a precise and elegant way. I hope you're well and truly appreciate this!
@Dog.Dad.Studios No problem though sleeping on it I did a little disservice to the Mainline C&C that I'll try and rectify here
First off Mainline C&C Cannonically is not connected to Red Alert (The Kane stuff was in the soviet campaign in RA 1, hence non-canon and Yuri never went back in time as a NOD agent since we got a different C&C 3) but the overall plot is basically in 1995 a Meteor storm ravages earth and spreads a resource called TIberium (named so because the first samples were taken from the Tiber river in Italy). Its a glowing green substance that in its raw form is highly toxic and seeps out nutrients from the soil and grows like a plant, basically killing everything in the general area. HOWEVER when refined its basically safe and a wonder substance, solving the energy crisis and can be refined into pretty much whatever material you need very cheaply. This obviously makes it VERY valuable despite its ecological dangers.
As for the two factions the first is the Global Defense Initiative or GDI, basically the G7 Nations formed this group as an international special forces/peacekeeping group to 1) Contain the Spread of tiberium and 2) Deal with Terrorist threats, specifically....The Brotherhood of NOD who controls a vast amount of the Tiberium supply
Later on they become the De-facto world government due to all the nations collapsing due to the failure to contain Tiberium properly
Then there's the Brotherhood of NOD, A quasi-religious cult who sees Tiberium as a sacred and they key to Humanity's ascension. Led by Kane (Played by Westwood's then Sound guy Joe Kucan, which by the way most Live action and Voice actors are actually developers, though that begins to change as they hire Hollywood talent as time goes on and the series got more successful, which explains the quality of the Acting, Joe Stuck around as Kane though) the Charismatic and seemingly immortal Leader of the Brotherhood of NOD who may be an alien or the literal Biblical Cain, we don't know and that's awesome that we don't. They thrive in third world countries, rallying rebel groups and millitias to oppose the GDI.
(The Scrin Come later in C&C 3, and they are basically the Aliens responsible for the Meteors, Also Japan in Red Alert is a thing for Red Alert 3 after the soviets invent a time machine and shake Albert Einstein's hand because in the Red Alert Universe he's the reason why nukes....and the Allies technological superiority is a thing...which means Imperial Japan is still a thing and they kind of become a superpower that's half World War 2 Imperial Japan and half Macross Anime, with George Takei as the Emperor)
@@Arcterran reading this was special and something I will always remember as one of the most genuinely written comments I’ll ever get.
Do you write professionally? I was laughing and intrigued the whole time, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I hope you’re well! What games do you play nowadays?
@@Dog.Dad.Studios Nope! This was the power of Autism!
I'm a Software developer by trade
Gaming wise Nowadays I'm spreading some Democracy with the boys as a Helldiver but I do like me a good combat sim (Gunner HEAT PC, Nuclear Option, Helicopter Gunship D.E.X, so not DCS hardcore but makes more of an attempt than your Ace Combats/Project Wingmans), Mechwarrior 2: 31st Century Combat made me a Gamer. If not for that its mostly "Whatever is on my eternal steam backlog" which can range from indie SHUMPS to FPSes (Crysis and Insurgency my beloved, COD 4 was my introduction to online multiplayer and I stuck through till Black Ops 2) to whatever catches my interest (I recently got out of a fighting game phase for example)
(RTS wise I started Age of Empires but C&C ended up being my favorite as you can see, though Homeworld is basically my Final Fantasy 7)
@@Arcterran Whatever it comes from, thank you! It was great to read your synopsis about the series and I cannot express to you how much I appreciate it!
Early RTS all use left click as movement and selection, but i think it's Warcraft 3 that made the right click control mainstream
Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment! I could’ve sworn StarCraft also had right click too, but I’ll have to redownload on battlenet. What was your favorite RTS or one you’re currently playing?
RA2 with Yuri's Revenge was one of the best games I ever played
What was your favorite mission? Thanks for stppping by! Hope all is well!
@@Dog.Dad.Studios either the allied mission in Egypt or the one on the moon
I miss the goofy vibes and remember playing this online against other people for hours some times
Thank you so much for sharing this! How was the multiplayer back then? Were games laggy? Hope all is well!
I love this game. For some reason its my favorite game in the franchise even though my favorite units in the Red Alert subseries are from the third game, and that's usually a huge factor. in determining what game in a strategy game series is my favorite. Its funny because when I think Command and Conquer I'm so used to the left click to select, move and attack that when I start a Command and Conquer game where right click is used to move it throws me off for a little while.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I truly appreciate it! That's interesting, I feel like I have that too in franchises since some units get more "Badass." Oh man the left click was so hard to get used to, I had just come off some Starcraft 2 games so it was a whirl. Thanks so much for stopping by! What are you playing nowadays? Hope you're well
@@Dog.Dad.Studios I just started Terminator: Dark Fate: Defiance. Before that I was playing Red Alert 3 Uprising and before that I was playing Tiberium Sun (I grabbed the collection once I found out it came out on Steam though I already had the Command and Conquer games on s=Steam before the collection..)
@@roguerifter9724 Fantastic!! Thank you for taking the time to share, I appreciate steam getting these older games into the spotlight and I hope you have an amazing time with them!
Whats the word on a "World in Confict " vid ?lol .I always loved the cinematics on this games
lol I play games to avoid what’s happening in the real world 🤣.
A video on world conflict in gaming would super cool though and now that we have almost 30 years of “predictions” I wonder what game got it the most right. Hope all is well!
The cinematics were awesome and I loved the acting so much.
@@Dog.Dad.Studios Lol i meant a video on the rts game "World in Conflict" ut your idea on that video sounds cool as well
@@Nobody.exe50 ah I’m so bad with references sometimes! I’ll check it out : ) hope all is well!
@@Dog.Dad.Studios lol same , have a nice day
It's a gem, but definitely not forgotten.
Howdy! Thanks for stopping by! It's interesting viewing the game compared to it's competitors at the time Starcraft and Age of Empires; both of those games have a very consistent base and the developers are actively working on the titles. When I say forgotten, I truly mean after Westwood was dissolved into the EA developer goo, is that Red Alert 2 has been lost; not to the people that dearly love the franchise, which I know there are many, but I have little to no hope for EA to reprise a franchise. Even with the remaster of Red Alert in 2020. Thanks again for taking the time to comment! Hope all is well!
@@Dog.Dad.Studios Who knows, they may remaster Tiberian Sun, and then Red Alert 2 as well. Some higher resolution textures is all it needs.
@@vodkavecz I would love to see that!
Ash of the singularity it's a forgotten gem, C&C it's one of the iconic gems of RTS
"Kirov reporting"
Not forgotten
There's still a huge community of players in cncnet
Tournaments and ranked game system plus mods all available in cncnet
That's actually fantastic, I play on a similar thing for Empire Earth II. As I say in the video, the lens is more focused on CC's competitors at the time and where they are now. I'm so glad to hear about this community and will check it out soon. Thanks so much! Hope you're doing well!
I never forget these
Which one was your favorite? Thanks for stopping by!
@@Dog.Dad.Studios RA 2
I'm surprised you didn't show Dune 2, Tiberian Sun etc.
"KoHmencing SHoQ THAyruppy!!!"
"KHONGratulations you have been DIScharged!"
"Bombadiers to your stations!"
"SoHbeit power supreme."
"Vee vill BERRY dhem!"
i still have fun with C&C 3.
didnt have fun with it till i finally played the tutorial then everything made sense and fun was engaged lmao
Ahaha I do that all the time, most recently with empire earth II. Thanks for taking the time to comment! Do you play multiplayer in C&C3? Hope all is well!
Forgotten gem? That massively popular title that literally just got added to Steam?
That 'forgotten' gem?
Yeah, before the steam sale the last game was a remaster in 2020, and I have little hope for EA to have eyes on this. Compared to its competitors back in the day, like AoE and StarCraft, both having their developers actively working on those games, Red Alert 2 has been forgotten, it doesn’t mean I’m saying you forgot it. Thanks for stopping by!
This game is not dead. It's still alive in CncNet.
What is CnCnet? I play Empire Earth II and they have a pseudo update/mod that allows multiplayer so I'm assuming it's that? If so, that's amazing! Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment! Hope all is well!
Forgotten? Yes, but only by it's publisher..
Oh yeah, I just reviewed Emperor Battle of Dune, and EA pretty much bought out publishers like Westwood, then consolidated them into EA West or East; so sad, these were real people with so many great ideas, and just to be snuffed like that by some corpo makes bringing these games back into the spotlight for newer generations even more important.
These games had style, time and dedication, and were made not for specifically sales, but what the game meant. I see a resurgence of this in steam with their early access, even with the cash grabs there. I'm crossing my fingers something happens with EA and Ubisoft to get off their you know whats... Thanks for stopping by! Hope you're well!
Eh, Red Alert 2 was great but still falls short of Red Alert, its predecessor for several reasons.
Now technically both Red Alert endings are canonical. Soviet victory leads to the Tiberium universe while the Allied victory leads to Red Alert 2.
All in all, I did like the video though - cheers!
Thank you for taking the time to comment! What makes you say that? Hope all is well!
@Dog.Dad.Studios The dark nature the game provides. Your literal first mission for the Soviets is a warcrime.
'Go at once to Torun. Destroy everything and everyone. No prisoners, no survivors.'
Thats mission one.
The secret campaign for the ants is a huge plus, nothing like that for Red Alert 2. Thats not even getting to the additional missions that Counterstrike and Aftermath provided.
Additional units were added in Aftermath I believe as well.
Chronotank for instance. Just disappears for the allies.
Tesla tank becomes...useless for the Soviets.
Just...not as good because its less content overall sadly. Even with Yuri's Revenge.
ornulu the wolf????
oh gawd. Why are people using contemporary concepts like 'DLC' to explain a retro game pre-dating the term.
Use the appropriate nomenclature to what you're talking about.
It’s a really fair point, additional content? Expansion pack? What would you say the colloquial zeitgeist of the 2000s would say? Thanks for stopping by! Hope all is well!
@@Dog.Dad.Studios it was marketed as "expansion pack"
Its not forgotten
Forgotten?
who the fuck has forgotten red alert 2?
Red Alert 2 wasn't forgotten. It was extremely popular for the time. You just maybe were too young or missed it.
Thanks for stopping by! As I say in the video, compared to its other competitors i.e. StarCraft and AoE which have a very active player base and developer backing as of this moment, Red Alert 2 does not. I have little to no hope for EA to recognize the potential for this game and series. Hope all is well, and thanks for taking the time to comment!
🤦 Promo'SM
Red Alert 2 is not "long forgotten"...
Thanks for taking the time to comment, in the video I explain why that is; comparable to StarCraft and AoE ( both having tournaments and development teams dedicated to the IP) CC does not, and without the remaster of the first red alert 4 years ago, that’s why I insinuated its long forgotten about. Hope all is well!
14 years since the last main release feels forgotten to me
not forgotten ... da f are u talkin
lol the dude says it in the first minute and thirty of the video 😂
I mean the last main release was 14 years ago, if a popular series isn't actively being produced I'd call that forgotten.
@@catmaninthenight we still playing ya nabs
clearly the devs forgot abt it lol@@matsu11177